What Makes The Chevy Corvette C5 So Great?

Hey guys welcome back to the channel and today we are going over the Chevy corvette C5 Z06 and C5.R and what makes it so great! I hope you enjoy and if you do, please be sure to like, comment another video you wanna see, and subscribe for more!!
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[@markroden]

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[@plcc07777]

I'm 70 years old, but I feel 35 when I'm driving my C5.

[@chrisoconnor3119]

Excellent! I genuinely laughed. I love it man. Thanks

[@rickwestlake3048]

I feel the same in mine, but I'm only 69. 🤩

[@toddinthemiddle]

i was 35 when i bought mine!

[@joshklaver47]

It still won't make your dick work, though... 😂

[@Flomax16]

28 here, just bought a red C5. Loving it!

[@pauljr.harrington1905]

I'm trying to buy a C5 before the market starts to appreciate just how good they are because I know they will go up in value. Mark my words

[@04dram04]

A super cool thing about the c5 vette, is that it can get up to 35mpg when driven easy

[@kcbroncohater]

I'm 67 and I drive my 2002 c5 once a week. It has 105k on it now and is a garage queen. Flip off the traction control and stomp it at 50 mph and it will spin the tires. If you buy one make sure it's a 02 -04, they got all the bugs worked out. This was a true super car back in 02.

[@thelitmedallion]

Yep, my '01 had the starter issue. I hate GM for it. It was a fun performance bang for the buck, but a piece of junk.

[@josemares1439]

I'd say it's still a super car

[@teddydavid2816]

I hope your other car/s are good and you've not relegated yourself to only enjoying yourself once a week

[@jayledermann7701]

I have never got the old man joke...I'm 55 now with my C5 Z06 , but I've owned Corvettes since my late 20s and wanted one since I was 5 yrs old. I'm glad to see you younger guys getting into cars again.

[@jamessizemore7103]

This car has a very special place in my heart. The first car I ever got to drive on a track day was my dad’s c5 zo6. We were able to get some used Ferrari race wheels and tires that stuck out an inch passed the fenders and that thing absolutely ripped. It’s still the fastest car I’ve ever driven at speed. The power was humbling, but the traction control gave me confidence to push my own limits. My dad still has the car and I’m counting the days until I can buy it from him.

[@3_Michael_]

I’ve been eyeing these for so long and waiting for them to come down just a bit more but I feel like the drift tax is about to hit it.

[@chaz7411]

It unfortunately is, especially now that videos are being made on them. 🤦‍♂️ Same shit happened with the g35

[@3_Michael_]

@@chaz7411 can’t wait for people to start calling it the American Miata and then the price goes up to 25-30k for no reason 😒

[@markroden]

Yeah idk if the price will come down much more tbh, these cars are getting more and more popular

[@lockonstratos7787]

@@3_Michael_ they are at that range anyway thanks to covid. In march 2020 I paid 10k for my c5, by July 2020 they were already approaching the 18k mark and that was for a base model c5. All Corvettes have gone up c5s now are getting close to what c6s were 3 years ago, aka that 25k+ range.

[@marcust510]

@@lockonstratos7787 yup 100% Covid. Bought my 2004 Z06 for $17k with 84k miles back in 2019. 2 owner car, was & is in stupid good condition. Gonna have to dish out $20k-$25k in todays market. The prices aren’t going to go down unless something crazy like an economic crash happens. All the cool cars that were cheap pre-Covid have gone up in value & more than likely won’t go down much from where they currently sit.

[@fancyesquire8888]

I bought a C5 6-speed manual, black on black hatch when I was 24 years old. It cost me $18,000 CDN cash (private sale). I drove it for 5 years, it was such an amazing vehicle. And the gas mileage was shockingly good! I averaged 30mpg. The hatchback had a ridiculous amount of space for a sports car, it actually made the vehicle a great daily driver. I sold it for $19,500. I miss the sound of that engine and exhaust, didn't need any music.

[@toddinthemiddle]

you must have only driven downhill to AVERAGE 30 mpg. quit makin' shit up, buster

[@luernzojackson7825]

I'll finally was able to get aC5 Going on 3 years now and I love it

[@frankw7266]

Corvettes are in my family blood. My dad always had at least one at all times, occasionally two... it's what I learned to drive a stick shift on. I have owned 'Vettes ever since I bought one in my early twenties, and now at 53 I currently own a heavily modified LS2 C6 and an unmolested 2003 50th yellow Z06. I think the more it ages, the more beautiful the C5's get, and I find people really appreciating them more.

[@signal_rr]

I used to not bat an eye about these cars, but last year was an eye opener. Got invited to a Corvette club Autox event and noticed how chill everyone was. Rode in a c4 and was just thoroughly impressed with it's handling and power delivery. Been wanting to see how the later gens are, but so far this platform has my attention!

[@robertclymer6948]

The C-5 has been on my bucket list for a year now. Owned a C-3 and loved it for the boat anchor it was in 1973 oil crisis low horsepower days. Thanks for sharing. A very well put together video Mark. Cheers from Motown.

[@gallo2432]

c3 might be better choice. how reliable is it?

[@toddinthemiddle]

at age 35, i bought a brand new 6spd C5 in '02, and there was nothing old man about it. 45-50 mph in 1st, and pushing 80 mph as it went into 3rd...? thing was a beast. now, for those who own or owned an automatic with body side panels. the situation is a bit different. great vid!!

[@Corvetteran88]

Got my c5z a few years ago and learning to drive it like it was meant to be driven has been amazing. Been kicking ass with it at autox and have been getting faste and faster in time attack. Amazing cars for the money

[@timsharpe3498]

When I was in middle school I was looking out the window and saw a Big Block 1969 Corvette do a 180 while smoking the tires. That day I promised myself that I would own one.

[@RR-in7do]

Got my 04 Z06 last spring. An absolute blast of a vehicle!

[@TJsVette]

When I was 19 and the 97 vette came out I fell in love. Flash forward to now and I have one. I love this car!!!

[@collinslaughter6530]

I finally got one 3 years ago. 2002 with 6speed manual. The car is amazing and I get compliments everywhere I go. I heard the later models such as 01-04 have much better reliability due to previous interations.

[@ThisWorldShallKnowPain.]

Yea c5’s are really amazing cars thats why i bought one too. I got an auto tho because it was such a great deal I couldn’t turn it down

[@doug2993]

I have an O2 as well. Yeah, I've had to make the typical repairs over the years, but very reliable. I love the size of the trunk.

[@jaws2003]

I was wondering about this in 2023. Is it more of an older or younger crowd that gives the compliments?

[@ThisWorldShallKnowPain.]

@@jaws2003 i get both, but since i hang out with people my age (18) they usually compliment it

[@doug2993]

@@jaws2003 I would say younger on 02, older in the 78.

[@lastridemedia4586]

C8 fan boy don't know what a real Corvette is according to my mother

[@markroden]

Haha that’s what they all say, I love almost every Gen of corvette tbh

[@dedserious]

Ppl who hate the C8 has never drove it same with Teslas, car guys love all cars end of the discussion.

[@dikflair420]

@@dedserious no pop up headlights, no dual oval tail lights, no v8 up front... not a corvette ...pretty easy...

[@scottleggejr]

The LS1 raised eyebrows. LS6 changed the game. The LS3 set the bar even higher. The LS7 is just a flex. The LSA made all of the previous engines forged and ready for boost. The LS9 pushed that even further. It's ridiculous...

[@myvalium1]

Great video on a great car. I bought the ‘03 Z06 new - and kept my promise to my then ‘13 year old son … and today it’s his. It will never be sold!

[@thunderlighting2006]

I was debating between a C5 and C6 and finally decided on getting some pop up headlights in my life

[@InsideTheJoshMind]

The Elder Scrolls music was a nice touch man. So nostalgic for me

[@Tokenomics1]

I have owned a 97 C5 for 22 years so this is probably my favorite recent youtube video. It floors me how much of a bargain they are. Intake exhaust and tune raises power quite a bit. Swapped in an LS6 after sucking water in the aftermarket ram air that sits 6 inches from the ground. With cheap mods my LS6 is making 392hp at the rear wheels so about 450hp at the crank and it does get 30+mpg on the highway with stock gears. Borla xr1 racing exhaust sounds magnificent. Too many great memories to let go and frankly there is no better option for a sports car at its price. Its cool seeing how the new gen of tuners are flexing a modern c5 style with wide bodies, deep dish cambered wheels and lowered to the max with body kits and wings. The ones you found for this video look like art. And I don't think it takes too much to get them there. The c5 can be lowered by swapping 2 bolts to longer ones and twisting them to the hight you want. Its practically free to lower them.

[@octaviusmarks2534]

Almost traded in my black c5z......MAN i am so happy i didnt do that!!! C5z us just a timeless sexy piece of automotive craftsmanship! Love the video btw

[@backyardboosters9128]

I’m a c6 fanatic, the c5 is the beginning of the c5-c7 chassis family so it deserves serious love. They are amazing cars that can hang with the best with just a few pretty inexpensive mods. It’s an amazing performer for such an insane low cost… it’s nuts

[@StarChaser027]

I don't care what hate anyone throws at it, I love the Corvette and the C5 is one of my favourite models. Done. Thank you for this video, I loved it 🙏🏼

[@TheSteveBoyd]

I have never heard anyone say a Corvette was an "old man car". The only reason I didn't have one when I was 20 is because I couldn't afford one when I was 20. I LOVE my 2004 'Vette, and I get nothing but compliments on it. But I gotta say... those fuel mileage numbers? Just a little on the pipe dream side. Great video, dude! 🤘🤘

[@BodisBomas]

This video make me proud of my 2004. Excellent summary of the history of the C5 post release.

[@vladtheimpala5532]

I’m an old man now but I’ve wanted a Corvette for as long as I can remember. I couldn’t afford one before but I’m about to pounce on a C5.

[@truthseeker1581]

These have definitely became must see videos... good job man

[@markroden]

Haha thanks so much bro I’m happy you enjoy them

[@josephforcino6399]

I have 2001 with 6 speed manual, this car is a blast to drive and I had a lot of muscle cars back in the day.

[@CorkVanDenHandel]

Well done. Love my C5 roadster and I could not care less what people think of it.

[@SunGxdRa]

I use to be a massive car guy. Constantly browsing different forums for various cars, monitoring prices on CL, Autotrader, etc. After I got into the C5 all that stopped. It's a great platform, DIY friendly, and for the price I can wrap it around a tree and not lose sleep. I could buy something newer and more expensive but then what? It'd be some garage queen that every chip and scratch stresses me out? Pass. I'm much more interested in being in the canyons + tracking, less interested in flexing.

[@joeewing9364]

Bought my 04 2 years ago. With the right mods it looks pretty exotic. People think it’s way more expensive than it is

[@havok8570]

Just bought one yesterday! It's a hoot and a half. Worth every penny!

[@markroden]

Ayyy good stuff man congrats on the new car

[@havok8570]

@Mark Roden thank you bro! Hopefully more people get into this platform, I'm going to every car meet I can.

[@ElReySupr3me]

@@havok8570 gotta dislike your comment. Hopefully less people get into it. So save it for enthusiasts lol.

[@markandrita132]

Hey what's wrong with the mullet? I hear there coming back!😂

[@Pika_Gabe]

6:00 ngl, that was the best way Ive ever seen someone plug watch percentage lol!

[@markroden]

Hahaha thank you bro

[@Blueagle8u]

Love my 2002 convertible! Tons of fun to drive,pretty decent gas mileage and VERY reliable!

[@newyork4198]

I was 15 in 1997. I remember seeing this car on Good Morning America before school, thinking how it’s so badass and I’ll never see one in person, only to see one in front of school a few weeks later, as people circled it in amazement. This car was a monster back then, and when the Z came out, it was game over for all but the most modded street cars. Young people these days are so spoiled because cars became THAT good from the factory. Anyone making fun of this car is just clueless.

[@toddinthemiddle]

people were dogging C5s as old people cars back in the 2000s. they were and are not that

[@newyork4198]

@@toddinthemiddle you think so? I would always joke about the typical corvette driver being the older guy who walks around everywhere with his leather CORVETTE jacket (lol) but never thought that the car itself was an old man’s car. They got a lot of respect back in the days, especially the C5. Just most of us youngings couldn’t afford a vette, because there was no $15/hr minimum wage push back then lol

[@jacobasuncion3132]

Having dinner and watching a new Mark Roden Video 🔥👏🏽

[@markroden]

Ayyy thank you bro

[@Apeman_king_of_apes]

Buddy talks about one of the best values in performance cars, one of the most iconic cars EVER, with background music from one of the best selling games of all time, one that still had modern games compared to it. May as well be bread and butter

[@Nobamaable]

I bought a 2004 Commorative Edition C5 brand new off the show room floor. I only put 13K miles on it in 4 years when I traded it for my wife's dream car or the Honda S2000. I sure wish I hung on to that Vette and the S2K. The C5 is a great car!

[@merc6]

I own a c5 vert with a the 6 speed. I call it the work vette. I bought it just to commute. It has super high mileage but it's in good+ shape. 140k for miles. Paid 11k for it 2 years ago. Did I mention the previous owner took the entire car apart to repaint it and it now looks like new. All new interior as well. The wheels look brand new and the top looks perfect. Everything else is old. It is 23 years old but looks better than my 2016 truck that I bought new. Also had a bassani exhaust. The only thing that needs a little restoration is the calipers possibly a rear main seal. I'll do the clutch and flywheel when I do the seal and maybe sell it after that.

[@williamtricarico6684]

I've been daily driving(beating the snot out of) a 2000 6spd manual base coupe for 7 years now. I currently have 3 Vettes along with many other cars (14 in all). I've always owned Corvettes since I was 15 years old. This C-5 is hands down the most durable, best performing all around car I've ever owned. Once on a trip to Reno (for Hot August Nights) from L A driving all around Reno and Virginia City and back to LA it averaged 28.8 MPG, with many triple digit moments. The car has 159,000 miles and has its original clutch, I only replaced the original brake pads, rotors, and wheel hub assemblies about 2 months ago. No mods except 4 core aluminum tank radiator, steel casters mounted in front to take the speed bumps and driveways, chrome molly adjustable end links for the sway bars and Baer brakes fully adjustable tie-rod ends. It Rolls on C-6 Z06 wheels and has Z06 mufflers. It will still outperform 90 percent of the cars on the road today even though it was designed in the late 80s early 90s and was 1st sold in 1997. An almost 30 year old design. People constantly ask about it no matter where I am. For the money, in my opinion, there isn't a better car out there, period.

[@jamessizemore7103]

Shhhhhhhh!🤫 don’t let the word out! I’m not gonna be able to afford one otherwise😂

[@JesusIsLordLasVegas]

That black C5R with red & white graphics is 🔥🔥🔥

[@cruztraveler]

I was one of those you called out for not subscribing. I am not subscribed. I also just picked up a C5 for the very 1st time 2 weeks ago and stumbled upon this video. Keep up the good work 👍

[@Orion2269]

Love this video, I have a 2015 C7 myself and I'm extremely happy with it.

[@drewkraus7158]

I was 26 when I got my first Corvette. So I wasn't "old" then. A 92 C4. Loved the car and since then have had a total of 5 vettes (C4, C5, C6, C7 and another C5). And now I'm almost twice that age and currently drive a 50th Anniversary C5. I guess everything will become an old-person's car given enough time and vehicle loyalty.

[@toddinthemiddle]

🤣

[@ayeimzach2780]

Love the Skyrim background music 10/10

[@ScorpioIsland]

Never change

[@markroden]

I will not bro thanks for watching

[@DaveInTheFort]

For '01 the Z06 had 385hp. It went to 405 in 2002. Great video! '01 Z06 owner here.

[@Tokenomics1]

And that 405 turns in to 450 with ram air, exhaust, and tune. So maybe 1500 bucks.

[@MC.4]

2001 Z06 had 385 hp. That jumped to 405 in 2002, while the C5 remained at 350 hp.

[@LordHolley]

Corvettes have been known as "crisis cars" long before the Internet had arrived. One of the biggest reasons they get hate is because of the crappy interiors, reputation as an old man's car, as well as the mullet crowd, not the performance. But I do believe Corvette has shaken that reputation off for the most part, Mainly because of the blistering performance of the C5 zo6 to current.

[@c101rex]

I have an 04 coupe , freaking love this thing , absolute blast to drive if i ever total this car or something bad happens to it , im totally buying another one

[@pixelnazgul]

Back then: You ask question Video respons Now: Video ask question You respond.

[@dougdavis7171]

I've had a bunch of Vettes and the C5 was always a favorite. I might have been over it until I saw a '99 Convertible with only 8K miles in showroom condition. I had forgotten what fun it is to drive.

[@OCDRex11]

C5Z owner here. Wanted one since 2001. I have had MANY other cars and spent thousands on all of them. To years ago I decided it was time for a Z and have never looked back. I always say that I "will never sell this car" to my friends and family then I sell them. I think I may have found the one one that I do not sell. Just did brake upgrades, Corsa Extreme exhaust, Silver Coilovers, Corvette Spec suspension tidbits, Sparco racing buckets and harnesses and a list of other stuff. I have never been happier with a car! And, I bought a 2004 Commemorative Edition too! So my geek is even stronger with the livery and rarity. LS6 baby! Great vid my man! Thanks for actually talking and not feeding a script to a voice generator/AI software. That crap is getting old.

[@wootuser]

When I got mine first thing I noticed, I move with the car and it is very responsive. At 70MPH it wants to open up, doesn't feel like a drag car like my SS but the C5 will get up and go. I'll be adding a LSXR 102MM intake soon and a A&A Supercharger soon and other goodies. Aiming for 500-600HP.

[@Prince_.A]

Sounds good man! I have a 96 Z28. I been thinking about getting a C5 but I may spend the extra money for a C6 primarily because both cars I have with the 4L60e or 80 I had to rebuild. My 4L80 made it to 190k miles before I had to rebuild it tho! And my Z28 got it's first rebuild at 120k. Not to bad, but I want to try the C6 platform.

[@bgnorthport]

I've got an A&A supercharger on my 2003 Z06, I'm making 634 RWHP.

[@bgnorthport]

I've got an A&A supercharger on my 2003 Z06, I'm making 634 RWHP.

[@wootuser]

@@bgnorthport That's awesome, if I go over 600 I'm fine with that.

[@shannonclaytor654]

Bro.... Best c5 video ever.... Long live the c5 coupe. Sexiest car ever... And in not a old man

[@TheMjphoto45]

I have a 2000 triple black 6 spd convertible. Love it. Replaced harmonic balancer and Oil sending unit. Great car

[@04dram04]

I drove a c5 before. Its a really good car for the money.

[@DjKamikazee]

I had my 2000 C5 convertible for almost 2 years and it still a blast to drive

[@nikkoalpha2]

Be aware the 1997 - 2000 models that can have irreparable Electronic Brake Control Module that operates the antilock brakes, active handling, and traction control. Best to search for a 2001 - 2004 versions. Amazing cars! Owned two and they are amazing values.

[@dimarfromnl]

Absolutely love what you did there at 6:05 ! Instantly subscribed 😅😁👌

[@clemnewton9007]

Camaro and Corvette are good fun cars

[@bmxturf]

I would love to see more c5 model Corvettes. Great video. I love these cars with the stock LS Engines

[@wayneanthonypopesr.3]

Love that body style Vette.

[@LSDdreams808]

The C5 is one of the best looking corvettes in my opinion

[@Dginny865]

9:55 "my dad constantly told me growing up that cars can be more than just transportation" this guy also had a pt cruiser..... lmao

[@WarriorsPhoto]

Great video sir. Yes the C5 was and is a legend. So much so that even around the world people love the C5 Corvette. I wonder if being smoked by one is enough to end the hate? (:

[@pacsoulpavon9649]

A 2000 corvette has always been my dream car , I’ve had e46 M3 , trailblazer ss and finally got me my c5 in July . It’s so beautiful and probably the best car I’ve ever owned . I will definitely keep this my whole life and I’m only 26 . I think this summer I’m going for a c8 if I can find under 70k

[@rgx420s]

Bought my 2000 C5 in October 2021. Makes me smile every time I hit the gas.

[@zodiac909]

Awesome work as always Mark, I wouldn't change a thing, not even the voiceover mistakes 💯💯💯👌🏽👌🏽👌🏽

[@randymorgan5742]

high quality video. def deserve more subs

[@MartinAguilar213]

After 6:08 min. I went ahead and subscribed. Great video ! 👍🏼

[@spokes5201]

I can vouch for the 26+ average MPG with an LS 4th gen driving normal. The C5's best story was from GMHTP (now defunct) about nearly hitting a toll booth on the NJ expressway in a rainstorm, then running a high 11 in an '04 ZO6 at Englishtown. I think the guy driving was a pro basketball player?

[@OugaBoogaShockwave]

My favourite body design was the 70's vette, i have to say that this design did made it better looking then the 80's but not as much as the 2010's. i LOVE vette's more then vipers which one of my good friends Loves. Vette is a steal deal for what you get especially if you jave the $$$$ to upgrade it.

[@V8guy]

The c5 corvette is such a performance bargain. If it was German had a better interior and was not mass produced it would be a supercar worth 5 times the price. But shhhhh I’m trying to get one in a couple months 🤣

[@eandberg]

((🔴🔴 CORVETTE 🔴🔴))

[@davidgough7382]

I just picked up a 2000 C5 and it rocks.

[@markcrisp4867]

The best platform in my opinion you can modify the shit out of a C5 ls1 💯🇺🇸

[@13r12ad]

Loving the ambient Skyrim music in the background

[@FalseHoodx]

Bro I know, I’m sitting here watching like is this man really playing Skyrim music? Fucking awesome 😂

[@powerrod1657]

Great summary/video. The C5 Z06 was and still is a beast, that car was ahead 9f it's time

[@xexon7011]

this would be the best vette ever created if it werent for the c6

[@dowhiletrue6687]

Hating on the c4 is deserved but the c5 is probably my all time favorite. The styling on this car is second to none.

[@jvc350]

Small correction … FYI: C5 sold 31k cars when it came out, but the C4 in 1984 sold 51k cars. The C4 actually did sell really well.

[@studio-flash]

The C5 Corvette still today looks amazing… they are super rare in the UK, we here would consider a Jaguar, a Porsche an old man’s car…but never a Corvette. You know when a car is fantastic when you see the likes of a Corvette, any Corvette really and it’s always put head to head for a comparison, not with a car with the same horsepower, costs etc. but one that’s two, three or four times it’s cost and a lot more horsepower. The Corvette definitely punches way above its weight.

[@toddinthemiddle]

only an automatic corvette is an old man's car.

[@mbagwell2607]

Great job on the video! Very nicely done. Now I want a C5

[@toddinthemiddle]

i had an '02 6 spd. definitely do it. go manual.

[@ronherman6033]

I sold, reluctantly, my C5 Z06....2002...and was immaculate. I needed a truck for my land/property so sold the vette and my old FJ60 Land Cruiser. Was my favorite sports car to drive...fast, powerful, great mileage eve going 80mph on interstate could punch it in 6th gear and still pass everyone. LOL Great car....wish could buy it back. So may have to get a C7 GS next but who knows.

[@toddinthemiddle]

6th is a cruising gear.

[@OGPedXing]

Loved my c5, had to give it up (for now) for the usual reasons, growing family. Great gas mileage and storage always blows people's minds. Also very stealthy to radar (non metal body) and laser (no front shiny bits, very raked windshield) speed detectors. .29 coefficient of drag, I think it was. Driving it was like wearing a perfect leather coat, it was an extension of your own body.

[@Zovie555]

LMAAOAO dude say toyota supra showed a fuccin Camry LMAOAAOAO gtr shows a Fuckin Versa 😂😂😂😂 You’ve earned my subscription

[@markrichards7452]

Great video man!

[@markroden]

Thank you so much man happy you liked it

[@derickpruitt6846]

That was a cool video bro keep them up I got a c5 vette drag car …love the c5 corvette

[@billrichardson1283]

I'm an old man with a C5. I can't help I'm an old man but I can choose what I drive. Always thought the C5 looked like it was designed and shaped in a wind tunnel - shaped by the wind. Maybe it was. If you've never driven an LS1.....I hope someday you do.

[@Saltysailor83]

My ‘03 Z is so much fun to drive. Now even more now that I had a cam, headers, x pipe with borlas installed.

[@christenn32]

As a car enthusiast, I can't stand how iconic cars get so stereotyped that they kinda turn into a running joke. Terminator Cobras, Supras, GTRs, Vettes, all iconic cars that take the brunt of the stereotypes. I love them all.

[@FalseHoodx]

The Skyrim music is so fucking epic😂😂

[@iFlowZHD]

90% of us car guys came from COD lobbies so dishing out hate is second nature

[@donx7386]

hey mark, i was wandering will you do a video about the used car market in Canadian compare to the market in the us

[@markroden]

I could look into it for sure