What's WRONG With Frederique Constant? - A Brutally Honest Look At The Classic Moonphase Date Watch

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The Urban Gentry

The Urban Gentry

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@superwisdom7342
@superwisdom7342 2 ай бұрын
Whats the watch u wearing on wrist the big beast? Nice looking watch
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
Apologies, I should have said, here you go: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3jWfGiibJJ7n5o Enjoy, thank you. Best regards, TGV
@tattoofthesun
@tattoofthesun 2 ай бұрын
@@theurbangentrythis is a perfect timed video because I’ve been considering a Moonphase for months and months. Once the urge to impulse buy something calmed and research took over, I’m really looking at Frédérique and am glad to know it didn’t give you agita
@Bill.C.49
@Bill.C.49 2 ай бұрын
Hands-on reviews of watches is the only way to go! Also, thanks for not making us suffer through every single new Tudor release= completely over saturated, repetitive, unimaginative content.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏 I suspected as much when I saw the press release, sooooooo boring. Thank you my friend, you are pure class. Best regards, TGV
@alexm2113
@alexm2113 2 ай бұрын
Would we expect anything less from a Rolex-owned brand? :)
@JMunchen-wf2yj
@JMunchen-wf2yj 2 ай бұрын
Was that the new Pelagos FXD? I don’t even get what…. The release is about. Is it because it’s now in…. Black? These Black watches everywhere are like the matte black trend for Mercedes and bmws, and…. Also ugly Rose gold watches which no man should ever wear. Real Men wear yellow gold.
@Chimney1966
@Chimney1966 2 ай бұрын
FC is kinda hidden gem. That's why it is a great alternative. Unfortunately, their nicest model FC-718MC4H4 World Time (nicer than Patek Philippe World Timer) with beautiful roman numeral decorated dial was sadly a limited edition model...
@omar10213245
@omar10213245 2 ай бұрын
"Nicer" than Patek Philippe??? Whaaaa????😂😂
@klausM54
@klausM54 2 ай бұрын
Pure class. And the malachite dial indeed makes a huge difference. Thanks for occasionally coming back to timeless elegance without ignoring modern trends.
@PushTheStart
@PushTheStart 2 ай бұрын
Solid, honest review. FC owner and I agree with these points (especially for people with small wrists 😂). But... I love my watch and, when you feel something, that's what matters. I really like their designs and, every time I put it on, I still say "wow." (Glad to hear that they have the coglioni to lend you their watches for reviews too. 👍) Cheers!
@blackdog9951
@blackdog9951 2 ай бұрын
Hey TGV, thanks for the new video. Sitting at the airport gate watching this wearing my vintage Omega Automatic. Thank you 👍
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
Nothing like a vintage Omega, talk about X factor! Safe flying my friend and thank you. Best regards, TGV
@stephenaubin5358
@stephenaubin5358 2 ай бұрын
Always a good day when a new TGV video drops. Love the reviews on the not so mainstream brands.
@Atombender
@Atombender 2 ай бұрын
As far as I know, Frederique Constant is the only Swiss brand (maybe even worldwide) that offers a mechanical perpetual calendar for under $10,000 (Highlife line). They were also among the first Swiss brands to offer a Swiss made Tourbillon (Progress) for less than a mansion.
@inspectorchicken
@inspectorchicken 2 ай бұрын
Yes, but people spending ~$10k on a watch don't usually look for the cheapest feature for their money.
@The_whit3_rav3n
@The_whit3_rav3n 2 ай бұрын
@@inspectorchickenI would venture to say most people try to buy the cheapest and most amount of features for $10,000. Look at all the cheap Chinese brands that sell like hotcakes offering a real flying tourbillon for $400. Look at the used watch market. Brands Like GP and ect. All that haute horologie for on the cheap.
@Atombender
@Atombender 2 ай бұрын
@@inspectorchicken I don't know, Aventi is quite successful with their concept.
@watchguy1244
@watchguy1244 Ай бұрын
Longines Master Collection Moon Phase
@HRM.H
@HRM.H 5 күн бұрын
"Swiss brand" doesnt mean anything
@Sebastian85
@Sebastian85 2 ай бұрын
FC really has many beautiful timeless and classic designs. Thx TGV🙏
@DMBVR4
@DMBVR4 2 ай бұрын
FC has no designs. They use existing designs.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
The thing is, you are both absolutely right, and that is part of the problem. Thank you my friends. Great summation in basically 2 short comments. O&U! Best regards, TGV
@paulsmith1807
@paulsmith1807 2 ай бұрын
love your passion for the craft - it's off the scale and so impressed you can really do independent reviews no matter what the brands want you to do. Keep up the great work
@L233233
@L233233 2 ай бұрын
I think the problem is branding. The generic French sounding name with zero heritage behind it, plus, the brand is mostly sold at smaller jewelers that don't qualify as ADs for more prestigious brands and at airports. They're in a similar place to Baume & Mercier, I'd say. I have no idea how the brand could improve its image. The watches are actually pretty great for the price.
@matthewdascenzo862
@matthewdascenzo862 2 ай бұрын
This is dead on. The name is generic. The logo is not memorable.
@pophilio
@pophilio 2 ай бұрын
100% agreed. Never liked the name as it suggest decades of brand hertitage that they dont have
@aureate
@aureate 2 ай бұрын
​@@pophilioWhile I understand the point, by that logic, I'm left to wonder how anyone can expect true competition to ever enter the market. Are we just left hoping that the finite number of "heritage" brands step up their game when they have no incentive to do so? Seems like a pretty anti-consumer position to cling to.
@matthewdascenzo862
@matthewdascenzo862 2 ай бұрын
Even without a long heritage, FC could improve its market position with more original dial and case designs and by evolving its own design vocabulary.
@SamP.H-t1r
@SamP.H-t1r 2 ай бұрын
Raymond Weil might also be in a similar situation.
@timhenry326
@timhenry326 2 ай бұрын
I am a former FC/Alpina AD in florida and also sold them at a friend's AD in St Croix USVI . They're really well made and I believe good value for dollars spent if you just want a good looking timepiece. The most common comment from watch snobs was they don't make proper gold items which isn't entirely true as they do offer some 18k models at competitive prices. Everyone I sold either of their brands to had only positive comments even years after sale. Not everyone has a Patek budget but at least you get classic style. Years ago I loaned my personal world timer to a ATP chair umpire friend to take to Wimbledon and he said it got lots of positive attention. You need to approach most watch purchases with a value proposition I had similar experience with selling Raymond Weil but I think FC would be a better option
@Frank-qs3pe
@Frank-qs3pe 2 ай бұрын
I like the Panerai picture behind you. My great grandfather was in the Italian Army in the First World War. I never got to meet him , he passed away in 1956. His son ( my grandfather) told me the stories about him during and after the war. Panerai always reminds me of him even though its history is in WW2.
@gmtmusic4media
@gmtmusic4media 2 ай бұрын
I have an FC Classics Index with black dial and I can honestly say it is one of the few watches in my collection that never gets old. The dial is absolutely stunning with a very 3D feel to it, and the light bounces off it so I can never devide if it has hints of grey or even brown. I think a big acceptance problem comes from a few things. First, they are owned by Citizen, which makes the Swiss made aspect feel somehow confusing. Secondly, I have heard they are a bit random with their placements in airports and malls - they deserve their own area. And finally, since most of their watches are classic dress watch styles, they should really trim down to 38mm. Regardless, I'm happy about all of this, because it means I get a quality watch for a lot less than if they suddenly became the next 'big thing'.
@fabiolosanto2799
@fabiolosanto2799 2 ай бұрын
You are perfectly right TGV. Frederique Constant Is on the top ❤
@michaelmoore8228
@michaelmoore8228 2 ай бұрын
I love the brand, & I've just purchased there Quartz day/date/month/ pointer date... OK it's Quartz, maybe overpriced to some minds, but the quality I can't moan at... I love it... I'm saving for my next piece
@mikemurphy8996
@mikemurphy8996 2 ай бұрын
That Cartier Santos you have is stunning. It’s got a really nice vintage vibe to it and yet it’s trendy. It’s a timeless piece. That one is a keeper.
@chrisdestro1450
@chrisdestro1450 2 ай бұрын
I really like FC. I have two of them in the collection. They’re doing exactly what they set out to do when they first started. Classical watch making at a democratized price point. It’s a long haul to get them up in brand recognition, but if they keep it up they’ll get there.
@therearenohandlesleft1
@therearenohandlesleft1 2 ай бұрын
Cool to see Mr Jones on your channel. Love my useless morning, so much depth and subtlety to it
@Nick.0f.T1me
@Nick.0f.T1me 2 ай бұрын
They need to offer more options in the 36-38mm range. And call their perpetual calendars "The Constant".
@amilyester
@amilyester 2 ай бұрын
All of Citizen's portfolio watches are just so big. Almost everything desirable is 40mm and up, be it from themselves or Alpina, FC, Bulova, etc. Makes having smaller wrists while wanting to support them with a purchase tough.
@gustafrenstrom8549
@gustafrenstrom8549 2 ай бұрын
i agree if this was 36mm i would definitely buy one
@wyattfreeman5190
@wyattfreeman5190 2 ай бұрын
Came here to post this. Their watches are huge, so I've never bought one.
@tattoofthesun
@tattoofthesun 2 ай бұрын
Niiiiice!!
@lucagarofalo2443
@lucagarofalo2443 2 ай бұрын
I'm not as knowledgeable as the other guys I see in the comments, but still, here are my 2 cents on FC: I think you nailed it when you used the word corporate and I also totally agree with the point you're making: the potential is there. I'd start with the logo. It should get a refresher: I find that the all-caps font used really flattens any effort in designing a good/exciting dial. They want to keep it within the more classic/dressy tradition? Wonderful: the tourbillon was a fantastic move in that direction. Steer away from mimicking Breguet and others, and FC might just as well find a true and iconic, identity. Hopefully they're watching and listening
@tattoofthesun
@tattoofthesun 2 ай бұрын
I agree- if they could do something with their bezel or shape around the lugs that’d be sweet
@jonathangreenstein919
@jonathangreenstein919 2 ай бұрын
My what a beautiful day it is to catch a new post - literally picked up the device to scroll and here it was- less than a minute old. Thank you for sharing such wonderful content - fam for years and I hope to be for many more.😊.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for your kind words, I'm so glad to hear that. 🙏😊 Onwards and upwards my friend. Best regards TGV
@HarshilPandit
@HarshilPandit 2 ай бұрын
Bought the FC Premier after your review. Absolutely a stunning piece. I think FC needs to do a better job in marketing their brand.
@Gumby56
@Gumby56 2 ай бұрын
I own 2 FC's but working on getting my third, they lay perfectly on my wrist.
@alexm2113
@alexm2113 2 ай бұрын
Having checked out FC's offerings at Wind Up NYC this year, I would say that you're spot on. Their designs are very classic, traditional, and also very 'safe'. For me, it's difficult to get drawn to their brand because heritage is important to me, and having been founded in the 80's, FC doesn't have a very long history. Additionally, they don't have that one watch that's an iconic, unmistakable hallmark of their brand either, which can often overcome the heritage issue for me. They're absolutely wonderful watches. They're well made, well designed, and good-looking, but I agree, they need something a little more bold.
@mitchaelhollingsworth1698
@mitchaelhollingsworth1698 2 ай бұрын
If a brand was founded or popularized in the 1980s, i would respect them so much more for going all in on a retro look like the concord mariner. Instead federique constant make classic designs like they've been around since the 1880s. Nomos is also not that old, or formex, but each have a very specific design language that defines the brand.
@RedFuryBooks
@RedFuryBooks 2 ай бұрын
I bought myself an FC Highlife earlier this year and am very happy with it. The finishing is far above other brands in this price point, and I do like the timeless designs, for the reasons that you mentioned: they won't go out of style in 20 years like some of the more popular watches you may buy today. It's not on the same tier of my GS of course, but is still one of my favorites in my collection.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
A fine choice my friend. I totally agree about finishing and value. Thank you for sharing that, I hope you are well. Best regards as always, TGV
@rimohamed
@rimohamed Ай бұрын
Great review. I have 2 FC Manufacture timepieces and love them. Very good build quality, nice movements and dials, and good value.
@popezosimusthethird269
@popezosimusthethird269 2 ай бұрын
Fun fact about their worldtimer : the movement is a rebridged ETA 2824 with a complication module on top, I had one for service not that long ago and some parts just do not lie (keyless work holding plate dial-side, geartrain position and gear height). Meaning other in-house movements of theirs could be as well. That's not trying to be a dig or anything, it's smart engineering : you skip the really costly development of having to build an escapement from scratch, the construction of the balance wheel and escape wheel which require a lot of dedicated machinery, and you focus on what you can best do yourself and that will give a more visible identity and function to your movement.
@chrisbradshaw7708
@chrisbradshaw7708 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for this video! At times have struggled as to why I don't have one in my collection. I have seen FC models in the flesh, and even in times when I have the front pocket money to burn I pass over these thinking "It's very nice but I could get something else instead...."
@GordinhoTube
@GordinhoTube 2 ай бұрын
I loved the way the dimensions of the watch were presented. without interrupting the narrative 👌
@DialMesmerized-yx7uy
@DialMesmerized-yx7uy 14 күн бұрын
I've been an FC fan since learning about their worldtimer, being obsessed with it, and then getting one for myself a few years ago. It remains one of my favorite pieces in the collection. As a result I'm always on the lookout for what new pieces they come out with. That moonphase with malachite dial is looking very nice!
@RiversScipio
@RiversScipio 2 ай бұрын
Picked up a AMZWATCH's watch as my first watch last month and I’m absolutely in love with it. Perfect size, looks elegant, very comfortable. Now my only problem is holding off from buying more watches so quickly!
@HobbyOfHours
@HobbyOfHours 2 ай бұрын
FC is definitely heading in the right direction. Leaving their initial “mall watch” vibes well in the rearview mirror, bolstered by the strength of Citizen and executing some of their best complications (and a collab with seconde-seconde that is not to be missed). #OnAndUp, FC.
@The_whit3_rav3n
@The_whit3_rav3n 2 ай бұрын
I have had a few FC now. I think they are a good brand especially at the price point.
@billcore6295
@billcore6295 2 ай бұрын
I really like FC and own 7 pieces and the moonface small calendar will likely be in my collection in the next year or two…. 😊😊😊😊 great video more metal bracelet options would be good….
@robertostefanowicz9749
@robertostefanowicz9749 2 ай бұрын
Whats wrong with frederique constant? It does not have an identity. It does not have a look of its own that would make you recognize it. That's also its strength and weaknes they make classical watches that remind you of everything from jlc to patek Philip. Vintage omega. But never frederique constant. The different models always remind you of someone else.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
Excellent observations. Some very profoundly true too, if sad even points made. It's like high end homages for the frugal old money types. New money is busy buying Patek's and AP 😅 Thank you! Best regards, TGV
@robertostefanowicz9749
@robertostefanowicz9749 2 ай бұрын
@theurbangentry i guess that means FC is for the people that appreciate the watch and Patek & AP is for those that appreciate the brand. It's seemes to me
@vijaymehra1101
@vijaymehra1101 2 ай бұрын
Also, at these low prices, it makes me think that some of these parts are made in China...too good to be true kind of alure.
@GaneshJU
@GaneshJU 29 күн бұрын
Good video and much needed to fill this gap in your channel and thereby the audience.
@delesgames
@delesgames 2 ай бұрын
I have 4 FC, alongside other more mainstream brands, and the FC’s, especially the moonphase/hearthbeat, get the most wrist time
@RevLev06
@RevLev06 2 ай бұрын
I admire your analysis of design as reflected on the esthetics of a watch, from a macro perspective to a specific item, the watch in hand. I may not always agree with your final esthetic analysis, but I cannot say I am uninformed. Keep up the good work! O&U! RKL
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much my friend! Not agreeing on something, but still being a gent about it and appreciating a differing POV is one of the noblest attitudes in life, if only more people of the world was like that. I deeply respect that. Onwards, upwards and best regards as always! TGV
@johnd-xd9sn
@johnd-xd9sn 2 ай бұрын
TGV, nobody does a better job at honest and independent reviews. FC is an excellent watch taking big strides but has a hurdle to overcome in their branding. THIS gives the JLC Master Control a run for its money and at a serious savings. Pure class fratello as always. O&U
@saleendriver
@saleendriver 2 ай бұрын
I inherited an FC. It was a lovely looking piece, but not to my taste. Sold it off and I'm sure its making someone very happy. Being a big fan of watches with the moon phase complication, I am drawn to this particular FC.....just wish it was a 42mm. Nice looking watch, blue, moon phase. Ticks all the boxes. What's wrong with FC? As far as I can see, nothing. Meanwhile, I'm enjoying as I type this my third Panerai Radiomir. This one is a lovely GMT version, single crown. Thank you for insisting I keep an open mind on the brand. I'm glad I listened to you TGV. Great video sir. Onwards.....Upwards.......Ciao.
@77cjam
@77cjam 2 ай бұрын
FC have always made really nice traditional style watches. But as your video indicates, is that enough? These days do you need a USP, or a "je ne sais quai" to stand out? Maybe. But sometimes less is more, and id be more than happy to wear one of their watches. Great video as always sir, hope all is well with you
@MattKrna
@MattKrna 2 ай бұрын
No notes on the Slimline Monolithic with the silicon oscillator? 40Hz with an 80 hour power reserve - significant horological accomplishment and also aesthetically striking. FC should receive more plaudits for this…
@bzr116
@bzr116 2 ай бұрын
A tour of FC would be great. I know seeing the dedicated and hard working individuals at Hanhart swayed me in the direction of my pioneer stealth (best watch I have ever owned).
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏 Outstanding choice and thank you for sharing that, it inspires me so much to do more! Onwards, upwards and best regards, TGV
@bzr116
@bzr116 2 ай бұрын
@ I certainly hope more places will open their doors to you. Seeing the craftsmanship and pride in a product can really help people make up their minds in this overhyped and oversaturated market.
@WatchWiseUS
@WatchWiseUS 2 ай бұрын
I've always really liked the Salmon Highlife Worldtimer Heritage. I don't know if that will make me a pariah but for the price, I think it looks amazing.
@amankozha9778
@amankozha9778 2 ай бұрын
There is still something about this brand that can create magic pieces;)! Have a great Sunday, Sir TGV!
@barrettwbenton
@barrettwbenton 2 ай бұрын
Okay! The beauty of FC (and, to a certain extent, Seiko/Grand Seiko and JLC, to name but two) is that, for the most part, they *aren't* going heavily flavor -of-the-month with their releases: much of what they introduce now will remain relevant a decade from now and likely beyond. But technically, they're as up-to-date as needs require: perfect for someone who purchases for the long term. FC *might* want to introduce a few models (or variations on existing ones) with a bit more visual verve, but hopefully without tossing out what makes them so damned good to begin with. Great thought-piece again, T!
@timelesssneakersandwatches
@timelesssneakersandwatches 2 ай бұрын
I agree with you, I wish they got their sizing a bit more proper.
@ExpeditedProductions
@ExpeditedProductions 2 ай бұрын
Well done, TGV! I have always been drawn to FC, but something keeps me from pulling the trigger. They are gorgeous, well made pieces backed by a titan in the industry, but there is always a bit of a niggle in buying one. I think the biggest hang up for me is that FC is a fairly new brand that is trying to not just be reminiscent, but to actually be a HERITAGE brand. They focus only on OTHER pieces from the past as they have no history to reimagine. They are fantastic, but I dare say, they are not original LOOKING even though they are truly inspired. Fantastic work, as always. Onward and upward. Be well, my friend!
@giampo1975
@giampo1975 2 ай бұрын
Ciao! Great review as always. I've liked this watch from the beginning and I can't wait to find a second hand on c24. Rose gold would be best, but FC prices for gold watches are totally crazy. Grazie e buonanotte! 😉
@TheBarts27
@TheBarts27 18 күн бұрын
This FC is a great watch. I really like the case shape. I personally would love to see a more boxy doomed kristal on this watch. Hopefully some new additions will come in the future. I would like to see a big date version at 12 or a chronograph version ( one dial and mono pusher) or a deep black or white lacquered dial version.
@pavXX
@pavXX 2 ай бұрын
Agree with your assessment. I picked up an FC dress watch a year or so ago. Was looking for something "classy" that wasn't Rolex priced. Ended up getting a white dial with moon phase, day/date on a leather strap. Very happy with the watch and fits the dress (under shirt sleeve) watch aesthetic I was looking for. My main gripe is with the leather strap; it was absolute garbage. Swapped that out and was much better. Happy with the watch itself though. Also, love your Cartier.
@funguy2playwith
@funguy2playwith Ай бұрын
I have been eyeing the Classic Power Reserve Big Date FC-735S3H6 for some time now (I really like a power reserve complication) but haven't pulled the trigger because I can't decide between the white or blue dial?? Seeing this video helps, thank you. Even though I was leaning towards white, after watching your video, the blue looks pretty darn good too!
@DaveSchultzXXL
@DaveSchultzXXL 2 ай бұрын
Its like a Battleship on your wrist! Love it!
@patrickhartmann1540
@patrickhartmann1540 2 ай бұрын
Totally agree with need for smaller cases. That moonphase comes out in 37mm, I’m in.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
👏👏👏👏 I would be in trouble there too!! Thank you Parrick, Best regards, TGV
@SingleTrackMined
@SingleTrackMined 2 ай бұрын
Cool, Dan Patrick!!! I've been listening to Dan for 30 years. Great, great radio guy. Cheers!
@1988banker
@1988banker 2 ай бұрын
I think it comes down to the age. FC set in the style of the older brands like Patek, Vacheron, Ap ect. They are old, just not old enough. Just my opinion of course, but I believe some like their watch brands to have at least a century of history. I think they are great, and will be more well received as time goes on.
@erikkinginnyc
@erikkinginnyc 2 ай бұрын
Thanks so much for including my JFK clip of Pilots Reveal there Favorite Watches which unfortunately turned into an Apple Grove! Much appreciated Pal.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
O&U fratello! Thank you! Looking forward to getting you on the channel Talk soon, 😎🥂 Best, T.
@boombox05
@boombox05 2 ай бұрын
I got the FC Highlife Worldtime as my first watch and I,agree with everything. It’s on the boring side of timeless, just a little too safe to be interesting, but well made and good looking for the price. Switching straps with the seasons helps to keep it somewhat fresh. Would recommend over Tudor every day.
@lukebignell7846
@lukebignell7846 2 ай бұрын
High quality editing and production here. How Archie Luxury ever thought he was a competitor of yours with his low effort content is beyond me 😂
@summerlinpublic5673
@summerlinpublic5673 2 ай бұрын
That Blue is beautiful! You room is awesome!
@TerryTurner-i9z
@TerryTurner-i9z Ай бұрын
I was walking from a jeweler in a mall yesterday getting the bracelet on my everyday Tissot gentleman sized when I walked by another dealer and saw they just became a Frederique Constant dealer and had one of the new green dial moonphases, gorgeous. Went home and did some online research and went back today and bought it when the jeweler offered a price that matched the lower online prices. I live in a watch retail desert so that may be part of the problem because the product isn’t an issue.
@陈山人
@陈山人 2 ай бұрын
Morning, TGV, looking great in that clubmaster! I traded in my Speedmaster hesalite for a Railmaster Denim dial and a FC slimline moonphase quartz for my girlfriend earlier this year. The watch opened the door for her interest in watches. She then bought a vintage Seiko that has a Roman numeral dial while we’re in London. Anyway, I think FC like what you would say are “pure class” but they do need to work on their branding. Cheers, XDC
@dr.kevinmoore8889
@dr.kevinmoore8889 2 ай бұрын
I've had two of them. I had the manufacturer world title, and the manufacturer chronograph. There are very nice watches and I think they are highly underrated however they just didn't match the other watches in my collection regarding finishing. I think they need to do a better job on their cases and I think they need to do something to the movements that shows a little bit of human involvement. Or at least a little more decoration.
@GrumblingForesight
@GrumblingForesight 2 ай бұрын
Personally, I thini FC has proven time and time again that they are amazing watchmakers. Their monolithic oscillator is as impressive as Omega’s coaxial or Rolex’ chronergy. Their problem is, they dont have a strong storytelling behind their watches.
@Conradthecook
@Conradthecook 2 ай бұрын
I have the FC moon phase Runabout in Rose gold. One of my favourite watches. Paid £900 used in immaculate condition!
@danlscan
@danlscan 2 ай бұрын
It must take you ages to edit these. Well done!
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much, it certainly does take way too long! The fact you appreciate it speaks volumes about you BTW, so many don't. Stay classy my friend and best regards, TGV
@flemmingsorensen5470
@flemmingsorensen5470 2 ай бұрын
That is an absolutely stunning watch!
@2001MBKBooster
@2001MBKBooster 2 ай бұрын
I would love to see more design and technical collaboration between Frederique Constant and Citizen, who own FC. A Promaster-inspired Frederique Constant diver or field watch could be rather fun.
@TalkingTimepieces
@TalkingTimepieces 2 ай бұрын
Great video! I got to see that malachite FC at Geneva Watch Days, a really lovely piece. I'd love to see a sports moonphase like the Longines Conquest calendar. Highly underrated company.
@cosymoon
@cosymoon 2 ай бұрын
Their new FC Moneta model is on the top of my list! Worth checking it out. Nice sizing, quartz moonphase, unique design idea = pure class!
@scrhunter3901
@scrhunter3901 2 ай бұрын
Great video. Thx👌🏻
@Spectrecontrol
@Spectrecontrol 2 ай бұрын
I think it is inly a matter of time until FC transcend their brand perception to the top tier, they seem to be comfortable playing the long game and full credit to them for that
@milosza1384
@milosza1384 2 ай бұрын
Actually the not-so-long game of the FC founders was selling their business to Citizen and making lots of money. Now it’s a different company. They added Japanese ownership to no own history or designs which is hardly a perfect combination. I respect the craftsmanship though.
@kresimirpleic
@kresimirpleic 2 ай бұрын
​@@milosza1384There is no craftsmanship in that price range. Which is a good thing because the absence of craftsmanship allows for that price range to exist.
@jenhoru9985
@jenhoru9985 2 ай бұрын
My wife purchased me a FC quartz 2 weeks ago that has had more wrist time than my Rolex OP 114200. They make pretty stunning watches in my opinion, the gray sunburst of mine reminds me of H. Moser.
@declanmcmackin4367
@declanmcmackin4367 2 ай бұрын
I was blown away by your use of Gorgeous and Cubitus in the same breath …at last .
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
🙌🙌🙌🙌 Thank you, I am glad me, my wife and possibly Hugo are not alone! Best regards, TGV
@vaughandurful
@vaughandurful 2 ай бұрын
At only 36-years old, and now under Citizen, FC is a quiet brand just like Citizen's other (underrated) brand, Alpina (love the Alpiner 4 auto AL-525NS5AQ6). Have you been to the multi-brand store at 605 Fifth Avenue, across from Rockefeller Center to see what is on offer?
@pauldevey8628
@pauldevey8628 2 ай бұрын
I love FC watches but find their dials when I look closely are week. The hands and batons tend to be flat compared to higher end watches. Oh, I want to like them more.
@johnmonachelli5256
@johnmonachelli5256 2 ай бұрын
That new salmon dial with the Breguet numerals is gorgeous and for a couple shillings
@thenotanclan
@thenotanclan 2 ай бұрын
My dad has an entry level two hand, day date, quartz Frederique Constant Well made, nicely finished, great proportions and has a stunning dial They’re an interesting alternative to a Seiko Pressage and really do have understated substance It feels like an ‘old money’ less is more watch
@chris555
@chris555 2 ай бұрын
Well I think they are an amazing manufacturer. The FC perpetual calendar is a grail to me & much as a Milligauss or a day-date. That in itself speaks volumes & I'm sure I'll own one in my lifespan.
@forgottenautos8461
@forgottenautos8461 Ай бұрын
I'm a fan of FC, and I agree that they are out of the focus of most watch enthusiasts. I think they need more modern case designs. They do this "polished all over" case that just looks like a dress watch. No sportiness at all. Their naming convention is, as you said, very corporate. They also need more metal bracelet choices for all of their watches. Most of their watches are leather strap only. There is so much you can do from bracelet design, and FC lacks this especially on their dressier watches. Also, their dials don't take enough risks or look interesting enough. They all look very "classy" and their watches just give off dress watch vibves. Rarely do I want to wear a true dress watch day-to-day. Finally, I think the lack of applied branding on the dial makes the watch look cheaper. I'd love to see an applied metal "FC" or "Frederique Constant" applied to the dials to add more depth. I hope to see FC push more boundaries with daring designs!
@stevegasparutti8341
@stevegasparutti8341 2 ай бұрын
Im not sure that money these days goes along with taste. Lazy buying is why Apple out sell its competitors, The same will apply to the luxury buyer. Those with the money will buy the recognised names as they make an impression rather than buying a watch for its design. FC are - like a number of other brands - are for those who appreciate their timepieces and know something about the art of watch making. BTW - love that new watch of yours - very "Next Generation"
@youtubewatcher2222
@youtubewatcher2222 2 ай бұрын
For this channel to get to the next level, opinions of watchmakers who repair watches should also be included. I think you can't exactly tell people how great a watch is, without having handled several of them for years, know weaknesses of the movements inside and what problems they are prone to, what their precision rate is over time, how you can finetune them etc. For example, you can say all the great things about FC which I agree with, but watchmakers can tell you that they sometimes have hard time fixing some of their complications. Without talking about these things, the channel remains somewhat superficial, focusing too much on the design of the watches, rather than the movements inside which is how watchmakers actually look at watches, but I think you address that towards the end of the video. I'm keen to see the channel grow though. Onwards and upwards, as you always say.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
I could not agree more, in fact I even talked about that in this very video and I have always strived to include watchmaker interviews and feedback in many past videos. I am so glad you agree and I will indeed continue to do so. Onwards and ever upwards! Best regards, TGV
@jodiwilson7299
@jodiwilson7299 2 ай бұрын
I like FC watches & being under the Citizen umbrella is a bonus.
@stephenlee7256
@stephenlee7256 2 ай бұрын
I love it. It reminds me of the JLC Master UltraThin Moon. I would totally get this for the vibe
@chrisbailey4210
@chrisbailey4210 2 ай бұрын
I have the Frederique Constant Manufacture Flyback Chronograph (a mouthful), and I'll admit that it takes a lot of inspiration from earlier Pateks. That's fine with me, though. It's a classic look, and FC pulls it off well.
@theurbangentry
@theurbangentry 2 ай бұрын
Classy choice, difficult not to love, especially considering the Patek's are insanely costly. You are so right about the name, if only they gave it a special unique bit of individual design to distance it a tiny bit from the PP and a cool name, I would be all over it too. Anyways, what is important is; you enjoy it! Thank you, great comment. Pure class watch. Best regards, TGV
@robertostefanowicz9749
@robertostefanowicz9749 2 ай бұрын
Love the video by the way. Thank you !!!!
@martinnathan472
@martinnathan472 2 ай бұрын
My, this has created a tennis match. But I wonder if we could meet at the net and agree this was a production with values that enaged us for the full 17 mins. It certainly did me.
@RolandDigsIt
@RolandDigsIt 2 ай бұрын
Perhaps FC needs to do something similar to when Tudor released the Pink Dial Chrono. It was loud and fun and different. It was polarizing but also brought alot of attention to the brand. I'm not saying FC should do a pink dial but definitely something that sparks a little controversy. Maybe it's right, maybe it's wrong but it's as they say, "We're talking about it"
@GMack17
@GMack17 Ай бұрын
Love FC. I plan on adding their perpetual calendar in the future
@e99783
@e99783 24 күн бұрын
great review
@oddpout
@oddpout 2 ай бұрын
Agreed with everything in this video, also I really feel the width is a major factor
@Libertà_sulla_vita
@Libertà_sulla_vita 2 ай бұрын
I own the worldtimer high-life. Honestly, it's one of my favorite sports watches in my collection. $3,800 for a piece with those specs is unmatched.
@VMIyanks04
@VMIyanks04 2 ай бұрын
Beautiful watch! I love a great blue moonphase dress watch! I think my only hesitation is not fully understanding the impact of being owned by Citizen (like Bulova), a massive Japanese brand that focuses on cheaper “mall” watches. I’m an enthusiast and not a snob so I don’t mean that in a derogatory sense. I certainly still appreciate all watches, but if I’m going to spend thousands of dollars, I want to know that it’s going to last beyond my lifetime.
@angelusavila3832
@angelusavila3832 2 ай бұрын
Love your glasses! Love fed watches, also!
@cajanir
@cajanir 2 ай бұрын
My limited understanding is that the watch market is dominated by divers/steel sports watches. So a brand that focuses on pure class dress watches won't generate much hype.
@05Rudey
@05Rudey 2 ай бұрын
I like them, I nearly pulled the trigger a number of times for one of their models, but a more prestigious brand (and in most cases more expensive) at the last second takes my interest.
@WMIYC
@WMIYC 2 ай бұрын
I’ve been looking to get a moonphase. I love the smaller size and look of the blue dialed Longines Flagship Heritage, but I know that I won’t wear it enough to keep the moon phase in synch and I do not want a automatic watch winder. As much as I prefer mechanical, quartz really is the sensible choice for me. I looked over FC, even the ‘ladies’ options. The ideal moonphase watch for me would be nicely finished stainless steel case at 36-38mm with a sub 46mm lug to lug. I love a blue dial with a prominent moonphase. I’d filing the cash at quartz version of the Longines - especially if it were significantly less expensive. Frédérique Constant needs design that eclipses both Longines’ vintage look and pushes beyond Christopher Ward’s bold minimalist design.
@darren9445
@darren9445 2 ай бұрын
Great video as always TGV! I’ve been close to pulling the trigger on a Slimline FC many times but chose to save for my grail SBGW231 instead. They’re timeless and classy looking watches for sure. Also, who won the bet between you and Mark on which new colour variation sold more/quickest? I fell on the side of the white dial.
@niksoncutts
@niksoncutts 2 ай бұрын
I can't believe you said the Cubitus is gorgeous, TGV. I'll never recover from this. 😆
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