What's Wrong With This Picture? | First Haul Out of our New Catamaran

[@Maximus-HK]

The viewer who commented on the actual cause of the rust specks is quite right. This is exactly what I would expect to see if someone was grinding, steel/SS, and the flecks, the sparks, they burn themselves into the paint. This is not because of the boat being painted when it was dusty in the yard. It is hot spatter from a grinder. Good luck!

[@Duh6666666]

My dad visited Turkey when he retired, and he absolutely fell in love with the culture and history there, he said it was the trip of his life.

[@SimonCurrey]

previously a Gemini 105 with centre boards owner. So different dynamics at anchor however we always used a bridal linked to bow cleats.

[@R1Kyle]

Ha, I was just typing about the rust again when you started to mention the follow up rust info, grinding dust is a vicious beast that is for sure. Have you considered stray current being the cause of the anodes disappearing so fast. I would say check your engine ones for sure. Sailing Wynns found that one out the hard way.

[@krionic]

the engines themselves do not have an anode. The anodes on the sail drive (which is bolted to the engine and its components subjected to salt water) are the anodes which protect the engine. There are 2 of them on each engine/saildrive. A cone on the propp and a collar on the sail drive forward of the prop. The wynns might have different situation since they have some strange engine/electric hybrid

[@R1Kyle]

@@krionic Stray current is a big issue no matter what, it can come from alternators, battery systems, solar panels, electrical connections, etc, etc. The Wynns problem was not a result of their electric hybrid systems, it was an overlooked design fault. I work on a a lot of carbon fiber toys and it is a very real issue no matter what type of toy. I will summarize my views on the engine anodes in relation to your comment above. --> Hey Nick, you should check the anodes on your engines! 🤣

[@carlthor91]

Nick, your mainsheet top block, needs to be same sheave width, but much larger diameter, to accommodate a Becket, underneath, that the sheet can terminate to, instead of the boom itself. Best wishes from Northern Canada.

[@danagovang2520]

Yes, a top block with a becket will quickly solve the problem. Odd that they didn't build it that way.

[@warrenpowell6570]

Cool episode! Wow, now that's what I call breakfast! I hope all of the shipping issues work out. You waited so long for delivery of your boat, now it's time to enjoy it! Thanks for taking me along again!😊😊

[@OhanaNZ]

That anode wear might be stray current from the boat. I'd change those out (super easy on the hard of course), give yourselves another 6 months stress-free. If those anodes wear away much more, you'll start eating props.

[@4GH440]

I agree with OhanaNZ, the cause of the stray current could very well be from your own boat, I would not be leaving untill the issue was sorted as you may find you will cause damage once the anodes have been eaten away. As a former cat and mono owner I would also not be listening to the guys who said dont put antifoul on your props till you haul out in several months time. Wrong wrong wrong !!!!. You have folding props, any fouling my stop them functioning as they should or worse stop them form operating and jam them shut. Pay the money and get them done with propspeed. It will save you dramas in the long and short term.

[@OhanaNZ]

@ Absolutely. Propspeed is quite an expensive product, but much more useful and functional than gold:)

[@craigmargetts3186]

I agree. The gori tip anodes can be installed under water with loktite and should never be allowed to wear totally away as not all the components are electrically connected due to grease etc.

[@tomriley5790]

Absolutely!

[@timhughes5187]

I agree with a number of the posts here. I had a 12M cat for 10 years Qld/Australia in and out of marinas; I had the same Gori folding props as Ruby Rose. #1 Is your galvanic isolator installed properly? I replaced anodes every 2 yrs or so. Never saw them as bad as shown here. #2. I never saw stainless steel bolts rust as badly as that. You may expect a bit of surface rust on 304 stainless, but that is all. #3. I used prop speed on my props. It works extremely well. Don't leave your props untreated.

[@SCOTT218X]

Spray can silicone works real good to stop rust on stainless steel

[@waltervanderboor]

Visited Turkey many times, always considered it a very rich country given the quality of the food in markets and restaurants. Also some remarkable nature.

[@tomriley5790]

Just going to state the obious but based on those anodes in a new boat I'd really be looking for a stray current, I'd definitely replace the anodes ASAP.... also inspect your anchor/anchor chain for pitting etc.

[@fs7453-il]

For the main sheet chafe, wrap the block with leather, traditional chafe protection. Tape will do while you wait for your leather order to arrive. Punch holes with an awl with the leather flat on a bench before you start to sew.

[@seanmorris]

Re. Turkish breakfast. Looks gorgeous, I was introduced to çilbir recently and could hapilly have that for breakfast everyday given the chance. (Poached eggs on a bed of warmed thick yoghurt with minced garlic, covered in a sauce of browned butter/olive oil with chili flakes/paprika)

[@julieford1182]

I just realized that the big thing that looks like an ice chest that is stowed neatly in the stern is your life raft. It looks like it is very sturdy and a well thought out placement by the builder.

[@atomicsmith]

They talk a lot about life raft placement in their catamaran tours and reviews from a few years ago. I believe this was an option they specd from seawind. Their standard location is somewhere else…

[@jlayton86]

Wow - that breakfast!

[@beneastwood1336]

Regarding the mainsheet: The routing is wrong. You need the dead end of the sheet to go to a becket on the upper block. Trying to run it past the block to the boom forces it to cross itself. The same is true of the run up to the forward block on the boom; the last upward run should exit the lower block on the forward side so it doesn’t cross the rest of the lines. Was that line removed by the shipping company?

[@davidwood4427]

Hey guys. A little tip from a fellow cat owner. After you drop anchor, reverse slowly back while keeping your bows to the wind (or tide, whichever is stronger), do not let the bows blow off to the side. Anchoring this way is easier, faster and looks way more professional.

[@craigmargetts3186]

That’s pretty much what they do. I think they were referring to wind vs tide and/or while weighing anchor. At anchor of course the bridle takes all the load

[@phillippurdy5893]

Wow! The breakfast stole the show.🎉 Hope they have doggy bags.

[@qnerq5044]

Turkish breakfast is amazing, enjoy!

[@bmitch3020]

For the zinc rapid erosion, look at getting a galvanic isolator to separate the ground from the marina from the rest of the boat, or an isolation transformer to completely separate the connections. The galvanic isolator will be a lot cheaper and easier.

[@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665]

The Whynns had a similar problem with their new boat.. might be worth comparing notes. Part of their problem was carbon fiber conducting ..

[@briancochran8356]

Can you even stand up and waddle after that massive breakfast? It looked fantastic.

[@johnmayer3433]

Yes, stainless steel does rust in sea water. BUT only the lower qualities. High quality like AISI 316 would certainly not show the signs that you showed us around the anchor gear.

[@patriot101101]

Could be stainless plated, true stainless cost a lot more.

[@Fjord_Driver]

@@patriot101101 How does one determine that you have "true" as advertised stainless grades when going from country to country and buying various bits for the boat? Is there some sort of device that you can bring into retail shops and determine the fake stainless from the true stainless?

[@JayPerrypersonal]

Turkish food was amazing, especially the breakfasts. We spent 10 months in Turkey. Wintered at anchor in Marmaris in the anchorage in the bay.

[@tatman8240]

Wow man. Do you have a ground isolator for the Marina?

[@robertsmith2402]

I believe the rust on your boat unless it has been confirmed, could possibly caused by the diesel exhaust which has many metals which come from the not so clean diesel used in ships.

[@ThePricipleOfParsimony]

Love that you love it. The fried bread looked similar to a Sicilian treat too. Yum!

[@tomashwell4060]

Also, are you letting the bows fall off when you drop/raise the anchor? Or are you not dropping a big chunk of chain loop down once the snubber is on?

[@marcellacruser951]

I'm looking at my Weetabix and feeling very deprived at the moment.😂

[@americanbornwalkaway9110]

glade you are back in the water.....the breakfast looks Amazing

[@amypurves8589]

Wouldn't the snubber keep the anchor box from being damaged?

[@stevejones9788]

Has RR2 got an isolation transformer or galvanic isolator on the shore power input to the boat. If not that will be the reason the anodes are wasting away so quickly.

[@wrobelda]

Came here to say this

[@PitStopCrew]

I had exactly the same thought…

[@PitStopCrew]

So (full) English versus Turkish Breakfast Nick? What do your heart, head and gut think?

[@tomatobrush3283]

I saw another boat that was shipped and they shrink wrapped the entire boat with a white plastic wrap, would you do something like if you ever shipped a boat again?

[@Ironboots123]

Breakfast looked amazing.

[@tomashwell4060]

When you go back go to where the boatyard workers eat and order Ayran and Menemen. Just a couple of $ and amazing!

[@gpdewitt]

Marinas are well known sources of stray current, from shore power and/or other boats. So much so, many warn people not to swim in them, there have been drownings. As for that chafing, what about a short length of small diameter fire hose around the line? Might last longer than tape.

[@papa.mike01]

Glad RR2 is no longer a rusty bucket.😊

[@DavidMonierWilliams]

Glad you're now de-rustified. Now that breakfast rivals my well known, "Greasy Eggs, " breakfast which is very English but includes lots of Prosecco and Bloody Caesars and you''ll appreciate it, Marmite, not that Vegamite. for Wuzzie Aussies...LOL! So nice to see you both smiling again. Un abbraccio forte a due!

[@decanuses]

If you had to Greece, Paros and anti Paros is a must visit. Especially Naousa on Paros. Must try food is Sagonaki, a fried cheese! Omg it's amazing.

[@Onyourbiketoo]

which is the 'new marina' where you lifted out ?

[@JayPerrypersonal]

Why is your season soon over? We live onboard all year around in the Mediterranean for 9 years. We still sail at winter most of the time. Better than a British spring

[@markthomasson5077]

…though doesn’t it get very windy. Took an October holiday in Crete, lovely weather, but even I wouldn’t have wanted to be out at sea

[@JayPerrypersonal]

September and October has most wind. You can get winter storms in January and February. However we have been living onboard all year round in the Mediterranean for 9 years. Plenty of safe anchorages to go hide.

[@AndyUK-Corrival]

Do you not have a galvanic isolator? Worth fitting to reduce risks from stray current in marinas. Andy UK

[@kathyline11]

I bet the shipping Co. changed their on deck grinding procedures! That could not have been cheap to fix all of that!

[@wesailwillow]

Hey Guys, you are preaching to the converted here, yes Turkiye is fantastic ! With regards to the anodes on the sail drives, do you have an isolation transformer? If so your marina shore power will have no effect with regards to electrolysis and degradation of your anodes and ultimately your sail drive. Cheers Bryan & Denise willow II

[@alankeith3419]

Hi Nick have you heard the problem the Wynns are having with stray current on there HH catamaran Does not look good long time

[@Zephyr653]

Fantastic boat. How much was the cost to ship from Asia to the Med? Thanks.

[@jimiandersen6962]

I have been looking into prop paint but I'm somewhat hesitant because many of these require sanding the prop with around grain 40 before applying the primer which feels so aggressive to me

[@ezone913]

Another lovely edit. Thanks for sharing. -EZ

[@jaysoncody8716]

The breakfast of champions !

[@thomasbrasse3145]

Breakfast is better than any other meal. comments for cheese, eggs, donuts and all the good stuff (and algorithms).

[@RedHeadAgent]

A delicious episode!

[@michaeldalby7827]

Nick check out Wynns latest video on stray electrical current and the damage it is doing

[@smulismuli7976]

Why don't they simply wrap it during the sea transport? Easy enough to do

[@Nico101.....]

WOW that breakfast looks so ....... lolol The 2 of you really make my week every week!!!! Im 51 broak but one day just one day!!!!!!! Nico from South Africa Saldanha Bay !

[@andrewberry6705]

Breakfast of Champions right there

[@flyboy61b]

Prop Glide comes highly recommended.

[@MichaelrennieG]

Just a thought from a wantabe sailor, why not use "deflatable" tubes or fenders? They are so large and use up alot of space, maybe you do?

[@MrCoyote928]

You need a 65 lb Rocna anchor and swivel...You won't have to worry if it's holding ..

[@stewsmith9236]

**** check your glass for metal burns as well. If you have had this much damage from a grinder your glass will also be damaged. As people have already said, this problem has only gone for now. Until you remove all the metal that is now embedded into your topcoat, the problem of rust spots will keep coming back to haunt you ****

[@docholliday3150]

I miss the monohull days.

[@markbernier8434]

Not FOMO, just straight up envy.

[@jonathanwetherell3609]

Hot Work near a yacht is a no no. Mild steel sparks will melt into gell coat and plastic. They are hot enough to weld into stainless steel. Cold bits will clean off with scrubbing and oxalic acid to get rid of the rust. Hot sparks need abrasion to remove the s0uface they re bonded to.

[@scottgodive1139]

Try kevlar rap on the main sheat.

[@pauljamieson803]

How about a Turkish Delight?

[@jeffreysearle2996]

That’s a lot of plates, I feel bad for the dishwashing guy.

[@stephendempsey5602]

I've just eaten... Now I'm hungry all over again it looks great enjoy

[@alejandrovanags4948]

Turkish breakfast!

[@danielclint1542]

Look like they used 308 stainless instead of the superior and more expensive 316.

[@freelancekate8919]

Do you stop sailing during the winter months?

[@davida.thompson6456]

Won’t the “harsh” chemicals used to remove the rust along with all the hard rubbing effect the longevity of your paint?

[@davida.thompson6456]

Sorry. I posted this before finishing this episode!

[@wayneanderson1641]

No reason to ask them questions they never bothered answer😮

[@holtcrowder]

Good luck with the sub stack and paid subscription stuff. That is very ambitious. Please let us know on this free KZbin channel how that endeavor goes.

[@LuxPerp]

Dude, not everything is for everybody. Enjoy the free stuff. There are others who will enjoy paying. No need for snark.

[@rwringstaff]

@@LuxPerp it's not snark. When you build a following of loyal viewers and then tell them they can find out what happens, but only if they pay. Bit disrespectful.

[@DS-zs4ge]

Only special stainless steel such as 316L is saltwater resistent. Great videos, boat and sailors.

[@josephwilliamcosta]

there's nothing posted in the substack....

[@KLRBugeater]

It looks like you have suddenly transported to "La Paz, Baja California, Mexico"..

[@peterbowen4328]

Breakfast like that in California would cost many time as much but would get coffee.

[@Expendible1971]

I think that they should use bigger tables.

[@srhintz]

You don't run a bridal on that anchor chain?

[@4GH440]

thats what I was thinking - we owned two cats and its a very rare occurrence when you dont use a bridle.

[@MSHopps175]

I could do with one of those breakfasts

[@oh-brothers]

I guess the lesson is to never ship a boat unwrapped?...and I guess you need to make sure boat gets wrapped before anyone can damage it. The downside to wrapping is damage won't show always until wrap gets taken off but it will keep it protected from non-structural damage from grinding, sand, etc.

[@jlayton86]

I was thinking about wrapping…

[@reillywilloughby]

I do indeed have the most massive food envy.

[@michaelduncan2759]

So very sorry you had to go through all of this. Do either of you think that it is beneficial to have your first boat be a monohull to learn better seamanship?

[@markthomasson5077]

That’s is not an all day breakfast, ie, last you all day…but a two day breakfast.

[@unpluggedkiwi1063]

For me, the big question is, would you ship you boat again? If yes, would you use the same company?

[@rjtumble]

I think the only thing I wouldn’t like about that breakfast is the olives. I’ve always found the taste and texture of an olive to be really gross. Everything else looked amazing.

[@DonFarmer-hq5sw]

Who would have known that you should have wrapped the cat before shipping 😢

[@trevhedges]

Thanks guys! & my volcano damage thought was completely dismissed?

[@judycook1918]

That truly looked like the most amazing breakfast ever. How I wish I were able to visit Turkey and try it.

[@rayopeongo]

Slime line?

[@apainlessone]

Term for a line that stays in the water to secure the bow to when “Med moored “ It keeps the boat’s stern from hitting the dock.

[@SweetStephee]

😮all that food for $9-$10? That's a bargain ❤ Can your get doggie bags?

[@Outrageousconduct]

Geez hauling out already what a shame good luck

[@user-nq2hg3mc1v]

Erosion of your anodes is most likely as a result of cathodic delamination…..there’s a “stray current” between two dissimilar metals somewhere on the boat. Seek and you will find - then fix!

[@kbeilers]

Substack?

[@tjs0067]

Dam makes my toast and coffee look boring enjoy.

[@Outrageousconduct]

Gotta pay for the boat I guess with this paid subscription stuff

[@SYSirius]

It all looks so familiar! Oh wait, WE WERE THERE! ❤🎉😂

[@Naturalook]

WOW…. Are you sure that’s not an exhaust deposit? ….wonder if it has anything to do with the new catalytic converters, since cargo ships burn the nastiest fuels on Earth, and just the last couple years are they regulated….

[@EdCook-f4q]

As Americans, we are so self-centered in our thinking of the world and tend to use ourselves as a benchmark of what is desired and how it should be done. How wrong we are. When you think about the human species, nobody has a corner on brains or what is good. We are a great country and mostly admired throughout the world, but our main fault is, we think and act as if we are the measuring stick of how it should be done. That breakfast is just one item that proves us wrong. I love my country, but we Americans have the obligation to open up our minds and realize, other countries do not take second place.

[@johnguz76]

So many issues on a new boat..

[@cliveengel5744]

Are you talking about sailing or are you talking about food?

[@kylem324]

Did Nick cut his own hair again? Is that the problem in the thumbnail?

[@garyag45]

🙏🙏🙏🤛👍🦅😎🇺🇸

[@nivkorah683]

Kaymak and honey! 🙂