What the breakdown of a MegaChurch pastor looks like

[@kyla8386]

I don’t understand the mentality of people who go to mega churches, your pastor isn’t supposed to be a millionaire

[@srslydoatm9251]

Ikr? Jesus is probably face palming rn

[@annward7794]

From my experience w those folx, it’s branded as more of a social scene and “cooler” than regular church, and the congregants eat that ish up. Very I’m not like the other churches 😅 and they think the materialism is cool, they want to be rich like that too. But they still get to walk around and call themselves Christian, benifit from any societal upstep that gives

[@lloydchristmas4547]

@@annward7794 👍

[@lloydchristmas4547]

👍

[@jackyzimmerman]

My great grandpa was a preacher during the Depression. He’d go around hayseed towns in the Midwest, holding sermons outside of bars and train stations, surviving off what little food people could spare. Eventually he packed it in to join the Navy, but for several years he was basically a hobo with a bible and a big heart. Needless to say, this crap makes my blood boil. Stephen King couldn’t write a more scathing or gross caricature of religion. Idk much about the Bible but I’m pretty sure John the Baptist lived in the desert off locusts and honey, not in a mansion sipping on champagne. Ugh 🙄

[@adammiden5629]

you know there’s something wrong when there’s a VIP section in a church

[@esethuntloko3288]

💀💀

[@bossabassa364]

James 2:1-5 literially says not to do that lol. Go look it up it’s exactly what that dude was doing

[@jbcom2416]

Reserved vip seats in hell

[@samblackstone3400]

Jesus is certainly not happy with it. These mega churches all suffer for their decadence, they are spiritually deaf.

[@linkofvev]

@@samblackstone3400 They should tax the hell out of them.

[@Studmuf-Rockin]

My Pastor lived with his first and only wife till death in a humble little house and the church was held in a an old car sweatshop he modified beautifully and I always saw him work on by himself Always humble you would see him with a welcoming smile and at a Home Depot buying building supplies He was a man among men, when he passed away a part of my heart broke as well Descanses en Paz Saturnino Vega

[@Occam601]

Rest in Peace 🙏

[@Monkeymoo1122]

That is how a pastor is supposed to be. Someone who leads by example and inspires with their humbleness. God bless you and his soul.

[@StarboyXL9]

Atheists will ignore this comment. Doesn't fit their narrative to think of Christians as good people.

[@CantTellYou]

As it should be, “prosperity gospel” preachers are few & far between but damn are they a loud minority..... it does blow my mind that so many people fall for these conmen, though.

[@user-uw9io4hl5g]

Hopefully he wasn't also having an affair like the pastor in the video was

[@Blahstorm808]

Never trust a man that wears clear aviators. Three people as reference: bundy, dahmer, and Jim Jones

[@annward7794]

Oh shit. Solid advice, My Guy, thx

[@balung]

David Koresh.

[@Coppergasm]

I always call them serial killer glasses

[@JxKITCH]

Number 4: your mom

[@Gixsir]

Wow thanks I’ll add that to list of people not to trust Mega church dudes Clear aviators Fake tanning Fake nails I got it now

[@cisrot]

The fact that the church actually separated the celebrities from the normal public… super fucking weird. I’m pretty sure that goes against some lesson taught in the bible

[@TheGr8erPurpose]

Written conveniently by Go Explore the Bible : 1. Favoritism is inconsistent with God’s character. Impartiality is an attribute of God. He is absolutely and totally impartial in dealing with people. “For the Lord your God is the God of gods and Lord of lords, the great, mighty, and awe-inspiring God, showing no partiality and taking no bribe” (Deut. 10:17). “For there is no favoritism with God” (Rom. 2:11). “There is no favoritism with him (Eph. 6:9). “Now I truly understand that God doesn’t show favoritism” (Acts 10:34). Showing favoritism is inconsistent with God’s character, antithetical to the gospel, and therefore incompatible with “faith in our glorious Jesus Christ” (Jas. 2:1). 2. Favoritism is contrary to God’s values. James addressed a situation in which believers gave preferential treatment to the rich (2:2-3). What would motivate this kind of behavior? Is it not because these believers valued the rich more than they valued the poor? They would rather have the rich attend their church than the poor, and their treatment of the rich and of the poor reflected their values. James reminded his readers that their values were not God’s values: “Didn’t God choose the poor in this world to be rich in faith and heirs of the kingdom that he has promised to those who love him? Yet you have dishonored the poor” (2:5-6). They were acting in a way that was contrary to God’s values. In a message on the evil of favoritism in the church, John MacArthur said: “We tend to put everyone in some kind of stratified category, higher or lower than other people. It has to do with their looks. It has to do with their wardrobe. It has to do with the kind of car they drive, the kind of house they live in; sometimes it has to do with their race, sometimes with their social status, sometimes outward characteristics of personality. All of those things with God are non-issues. They are of no significance at all. They mean absolutely nothing to Him.” (gty.org) 3. Favoritism is sin. James makes clear that favoritism is not simply disrespectful of people; it is sin against God. “If … you show favoritism, you commit sin” (Jas. 2:9). It is sin because it is contrary to the character and command of God. Because favoritism is sin, there is no place for it in the hearts of God’s people, and certainly no place for it in the church. God bless you all and may He keep you all who reads.

[@goldstarsforall]

Yeh it reminds me of the Victorian era where the more you paid the closer you sat to the alter. And the closer you where buried to the church. If you're mimicking Victorian era church you fucked up

[@michaelhaydenbell]

The entire goddamn thing from top to bottom is 100% anti-Christian. I'm offended and I'm not even Christian.

[@lurji]

@@TheGr8erPurpose also that part about being rich (which usually comes from being famous) that says that its easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter heaven

[@darrenwoodard1253]

@@TheGr8erPurpose He is no respecter of persons.

[@Drew791]

That’s beyond nauseating that someone would tell a victim, who was a SEVEN year old boy at the time of the crime, that he sexually tempted / seduced an old-ass FIFTY year old man. Beyond disgusting and bizarre.

[@lornbaker1083]

They made reference to that in a episode of american dad I believe

[@muffin6369]

Hey the catholic church has been doing THAT to women from the beginning. The whole "You women ate the apple and we had to leave the garden of eden. It's "The Woman." Don't laugh girls. It's ALWAYS US AND IT'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE US. Until......I found out jesus NEVER existed pure history NO WAY. The dude NEVER existed but do you think they will admit to only seven epistles from st. paul that AREN'T hoaxes. 12 years wasted in catholic school between the evangelical pervs YEAHYOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE and the CATHOLIC PERVS AND YEAH WE REALLY KNOW WHO YOU ARE FATHER!!~!~!

[@missmoanypants]

@@lornbaker1083Yes lol i don’t recall the episode but there was a tire swing involved.

[@avangardismm]

If you declare with your mouth, 'Jesus Is Lord' and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. -Romans 10:9

[@BlueTeam-John-Fred-Linda-Kelly]

Religions are evil.

[@zuniroa]

The advent of televangelism and megachurches has been a DISASTER for modern Christianity

[@Strongodin]

Evil Zuni be like “Watching this video while I have sex”

[@ericdoe2318]

No it’s not!

[@zuniroa]

@@ericdoe2318 cope nondenominational

[@lunchtime2960]

Yes eric it has. The world is laughing at American Christianity. For good reason. Open your eyes, the grift is obvious.

[@sheogorath6804]

@@lunchtime2960 Protestantism in General is looked down upon in Europe because of the American brand of Christianism like the one this video is talking about. Anglicans are respected for exemple but overall in the old continent you're either a Catholic or Atheist.

[@papillon3986]

“Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves. You will know them by their fruits. Matthew 7:15

[@papillon3986]

@Cynical Frenchface absolutely I agree with you. Matthew 15:8 These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me. And in vain they worship Me.

[@gokiburi-chan4255]

@Ilia Ros even the whole catholic church.

[@Apudurangdinya]

@Ilia Ros for what i've learn, you take what you think is good and leave what's not, follow voice in your heart, always questions the answers others told you and look everything at different perspective, for learning about god, you need to understand those who didn't believe, and when you see a red flag on someone that you seek guidance to, turn your back and warn those you think have strayed, not with screams or violence or acts of belittling others, but with kindness and words of worries, and if that doesn't affected them, pray for their safety and blessings And for me there is 2 red flag : 1. When those told you to bring harm to others 2. If their action is opposite of what they've been preaching or believing

[@thecryptohacker9976]

Yes because a story book said so lol.Get over the story books.Get some scientific skillsets ,read scientific journals ,research papers ,increase your cognitive skills and critical thinking.Lol.

[@papillon3986]

@@thecryptohacker9976 you know I use to say the same things as u bro. If not worse I would go out my way to personally find these Christians to attack them and mock their God Jesus and even cursed His name. I was just like u I believed in the laws of the universe. No one could tell me different but that all changed the moment Jesus called out to me it went against all rational thinking but I couldn’t not deny Him. He set me free And so if I must look foolish and now be laughed at so that maybe someone who’s in that darkness can see the light then so be it. You be surprised what God can teach you if only you were willing enough to set ur pride aside ur own way of thinking aside and just say to yourself let me see for myself what these people are talking about. Let me personally find out who this Jesus is for myself. I don’t blame u for saying what u say for those were my same words before.

[@derrickmcadoo3804]

VIP seating *should* exist in church. Not for celebs, but for people with disabilities, for example, people who use wheel chairs should be able to have options to sit amongst the group, while still being able to see the stage like anyone else.

[@stevenarvizu3602]

VDP

[@commitfelonyfeline]

that's just called accessibility

[@leelandjohnson64]

​@@commitfelonyfeline Most of the time, accessible seating is in the back. I love the idea of bringing the accessible seating up front, especially at church where the first should be last and the last first.

[@DennisMHenderson]

every fractal of christianity needs to be burned to the ground as it is nothing but a hijacked way of manufacturing consent from the soulless to mock their creator & abort the divine covenant that is intended for them. Every Sun allegory of man recorded holds this evidence but irrelevant because you are born with the light & continually reborn in its manifestation within; so no excuse can be made, only accountability

[@visassess8607]

But they don't give enough money so obviously that won't work

[@KimontheWeb]

Unfortunately a lot of cheaters are narcissists and a lot of narcissists are pastors.

[@girlinthesouth850]

Ding ding ding!!

[@Righteous_Cal101]

We all have sinned and fell from the glory of God no one is perfect pastors are humans just like us tell me have u not sinned also in ur life?

[@ianmac214]

@@Righteous_Cal101 She’s👏not👏a👏faith👏leader👏

[@mikeworkman3593]

Or they are just tired of their wives pussy. It's against nature to be with one person that long. Even monogamous animals still cheat.

[@KimontheWeb]

@@mikeworkman3593 So you’re comparing yourself to animals? Humans are supposed to be a little more civilized than that, but I hear ya

[@MistarZtv]

He looks like he could be a pastor in Riverdale.

[@felineboy1586]

Right he's hot in a scummy way

[@friedegg6235]

@@felineboy1586 what?💀

[@numa2k147]

@@felineboy1586 Bruh 🧐

[@berrybaby1570]

@@felineboy1586 Yessssss

[@luna775]

On Roberto Sacasa's archie fueled, sexual/ incest filled fantasies? absolutely!

[@MEDIEVALBLADE]

I volunteer at a church and there are "VIP" sections at the church I work at but they're for wheelchair users at the very front, at the back for nursing mothers, and another section for disabled churchgoers. VIP sections should not be for the rich.

[@AntonGudenus]

To quote the bible (John 2, 1-4 to be exact): "My brothers and sisters, believers in our glorious Lord Jesus Christ must not show favoritism. Suppose a man comes into your meeting wearing a gold ring and fine clothes, and a poor man in filthy old clothes also comes in. If you show special attention to the man wearing fine clothes and say, “Here’s a good seat for you,” but say to the poor man, “You stand there” or “Sit on the floor by my feet,” have you not discriminated among yourselves and become judges with evil thoughts?"

[@FourthIdentity-gu2zk]

That's not VIP then that's handicap access lol

[@gabbye4986]

As a Christian, I just don’t trust celebrity pastors.

[@xen2125]

You shouldn’t even trust your local ones.

[@sola_a]

I'm Atheist but honestly, the safe thing to do is trust only in god. Humans are so very flawed

[@Fizzy332]

Go to an orthodoz church

[@sola_a]

@Tah BOO not at all, I'm a former Christian and atheist for a reason. I do not believe one bit. But I understand.

[@sola_a]

@Tah BOO I don't believe but I know they do. Again, I used to be Christian. It makes no sense to trust in humans who time and time again have proven how greed consumes them. The only logical advice here is to believe only in your higher power, whoever that may be.

[@chompchompchangbin]

I feel bad for Justin because I have a feeling he really wanted a good, sensible dad-like figure, considering he never got that and his dad took advantage of his fame too.

[@darth_autismo]

Ouch

[@esethuntloko3288]

Awww🥺 definitely

[@joyandpeacefullaughter5307]

But he was smart enough to break things off with the pastor.

[@adrielsebastian5216]

@@joyandpeacefullaughter5307 definitely. Good that he bailed when he did before all the shitstorm.

[@heroicsplendid]

He knew Justin was vulnerable at that time so he took advantage of the situation, good thing Justin saw the advantage and cut that "pastor" off his life.

[@Wodenseyes]

My dad told me that all the Mega Churches are almost always run by terrible people (my dad was a Preacher for a Southern Baptist Church when I was little) and that when you see a pastor spending all that money on themselves and nice cars and homes, they’re not living the lifestyle that we are called by Jesus to live. I’ve never seen a single celeb church that isn’t a prosperity gospel church that tries to tell you if you donate to their church Jesus will bless you.

[@FourthIdentity-gu2zk]

Literally every church I've ever been to teaches this, including all the small southern Baptist churches I went to as a kid. I was always told the reason my family would always be poor is because I was born out of wedlock and God was punishing my family. Churches separated by hundreds of miles have all told me this, so this is clearly a MAJOR part of church doctrine

[@Wodenseyes]

@@FourthIdentity-gu2zk that doesn’t make any sense. The part about you being born out of wedlock might be true but small independent or southern Baptist churches do not preach that if you give money to the church that god will bless you. Other than black churches and mega churches I’ve NEVER seen it in independent baptist churches.

[@FourthIdentity-gu2zk]

@Wodenseyes Must be nice. I have. I have constantly be told the only reason life sucks for anyone is because of my parents sins, or someone didn't believe hard enough. I'm old enough now to not believe in fairy tales anymore though and I won't ever let judgemental assholes and their imaginary friends make me feel like a lesser person for not being a slave or rich or having married parents it's ridiculous. Also not going to let some people that think genocide and child marriage is a good thing, try and tell me what is right and wrong either lol

[@dragishawk9564]

And Jesus had quite a bit to say regarding rich folks and how hard it is for them to enter heaven. Eye of a needle and all that.

[@googleuser298]

Having the kids in the photo was not "weird". It's a calculated thing people do to appear more of a relatable family man.

[@jessicajohnston5693]

Well, you don't want to rope your kids into your grown-up drama. What if someone who knows the kids sees the pic and related post? The kids might be treated differently by friends and teachers! I see including the kids as a way to score extra sympathy from the public at the kids expenses.

[@thighmeat6034]

@@jessicajohnston5693 basically what most family vlogging channels have been doing

[@jessicajohnston5693]

@@thighmeat6034 Yeah... that doesn't make it okay though. But, you are right 😔

[@jhoughjr1]

@@jessicajohnston5693 All kids are treated differently by people. People are treated differently by people.

[@FourthIdentity-gu2zk]

It's still weird, that just means it had a purpose for being weird. But rest assured it's still very weird

[@jamiehess4211]

Pastors usually stumble for 1 of 2 reasons: money or sex.

[@martinsloan9785]

The 3 B's Booze Broads Bucks

[@fawnieee]

@@AnaGolightly especially underage ones if we're taking religious men

[@tommynorthwood]

Or money for sex, hahaha

[@tommynorthwood]

@@martinsloan9785 the 3 Bs as listed by sugar ray. We all know he was gonna say blow...

[@melonie_peppers]

He was a fake to begin with

[@firstnamelastname7244]

"VIP section in a church" is one of those phrases that sounds like it comes from an Onion article or something.

[@QuiverDancer]

Probation for giving a child lifelong trauma. The justice system is disgusting

[@colonialstraits1069]

Not as disgusting as the Christian church.

[@knurlgnar24]

Well, at least he didn't smoke a joint. THAT would put him behind bars. sick bastard.

[@موسى_7]

Should be called an injustice system.

[@oki__]

For real. Petty crime is charged as major offence and everything that’s actually morally corrupt & foundationally vile is a minor inconvenience.

[@JackdotC]

​@@oki__only if your rich

[@two-moonz2953]

Hillsong is not a church it is a corporation. Instead of 12 disciples it has 12 lawyers. Great vid dude! New sub.

[@jkhtravelrn]

I’m new too.

[@gryla5290]

It's crazy learning all these things about Hillsong. We sang their songs for praise and worship back in high school. Also, I kinda feel sorry for Beiber. He sounded genuinely grateful for what the pastor did

[@kellymillward6488]

What school did you go to?

[@StarboyXL9]

Yeah poor Justin. I had family friends that knew his mother and him growing up. Poor kid probably thought he'd found a father figure.

[@JosephQPublic]

Their music isn’t doctrinally sound, either. Most modern praise music isn’t. Stick to Psalms.

[@HerbeyStudies]

@@StarboyXL9the way Justin clings onto Carl made me feel for Justin. He got famous so young that he probably feels very lonely. He was thrust into work during a time in life where most people (including me) begun to make actual friends. I think he was aching for a friend, someone who didn’t see him as Justin Bieber the pop star, but saw him as ‘my buddy justin’. Fame can be ironically very isolating. Justin is exactly the kind of guy that televangelists like Carl latch on to. Carl knew Justin was vulnerable, and used Justin to build his business (I will not consider his business a church, it’s an insult to religion) while providing Justin with companionship. Carl got into Justin’s head to the point where he was pulling Justin away from his own work to instead focus his time, energy and influence on Carl’s work instead. TLDR: Carl is a manipulative sack of shit

[@dsandoval9396]

Any time a church is known more for someone leading it, than the actual message it's supposedly teaching, ...I think is a good sign to run the other way.

[@nashbullet3213]

Spot on..

[@glashoppah]

Bingo. Spot on.

[@heroicsplendid]

I myself is a Christian but... I always think that there is something really off about televangelists, megachurch leaders, and celebrity pastors like it just gave me those "wolf on sheep's clothing" type of vibe, ugh

[@stevendchu]

Agreed, it's like they all conveniently skip the part where Paul said "the love of money is the root of all evil"

[@astracrits4633]

Televangelists and megachurches are honestly a strong argument against organized religion.

[@mitchellhorton9382]

@@stevendchu They ignore Matthew completely

[@rafaeldelgado7243]

The catolics have been calling all these heretics by that name from the very same moment the catolic church instigated the same heressys for turning germans and other barbarians to the catolicism.

[@thomashunt413]

I'm an Atheist. I never encounter these problems.

[@landonsugar2531]

I interned at Elevation Church in 2019 and it was one of the most toxic environments I’ve ever witnessed.

[@jsong8282]

How so

[@saving_graciela9203]

spill

[@JosephQPublic]

Elevation church videos are all around YT. I volunteered at a local mega church years ago and saw/heard lots of horrible things. Don’t be apart of mega churches.

[@badnrad]

Tell us more pls 😮

[@kashinimeyo]

“This is all your fault you tempted my father” Excuse me… what????

[@paulorocky]

Unfortunately all too common

[@GCMJ-pr6yo]

Yeah, that dude that say that is a really piece of shit

[@Dawe360]

I don't think the apple falls far for the tree.

[@sstaners1234]

I’m like “what” also.

[@clawsoon]

In the documentary they play audio of the father preaching in 2004 (after he had supposedly been removed from all preaching duties) and he starts grooming a boy in the congregation right in the middle of the sermon and it is the *creepiest* *fucking* *thing* I have ever heard.

[@EscapeEFT]

That's not a church. That's a show auditorium.

[@heavystalin2419]

That IS the church

[@GrayDaDolf]

@@heavystalin2419 you’re a bit slow, aren’t you?

[@klausstock8020]

Yep. And that's not a pastor, that's an actor playing a pastor. Pretty obvious, if you ask me. Like an actor in a Hollywood movie portrays his role in a "larger than life" way, here we see some "larger than life pastor". Maybe Carl Lentz should become a movie actor. Oh, well, he tried, but no one wants to touch him with a ten-foot pole anymore...

[@tnuoccaeht]

This is… You have got to be the most concise, clear, and understandable people on YT. Like, I’m super tired and super sick but I understood this crazy ass saga PERFECTLY.

[@gloriaxx]

I feel so bad for the wife, she forgave him and dare did that again to her...

[@markl5998]

Don't feel bad for idiots

[@gloriaxx]

@@markl5998 she probably forgave him for the sake of the family now. But yes it’s a shame she was fooled twice.

[@issecret1]

Oh, you feel bad about the rich bitch married to the charlatan? Let me get the world's smallest violin

[@timlovett2673]

Yeah, except the wives of these sleezebags are often quite happy to live the glitzy lifestyle, spending the cash that some little old lady had sacrificed to give.

[@ericspencer8093]

She was benefiting from their cash cow, so there was a lot of financial motivation to keep it going.

[@glitchyrhythm6749]

My dad has been a pastor and a genuine person my whole life. This makes me sick dude. Regardless of your beliefs this is gross.

[@tristanoization]

That old chestnut again, knock it on the noggin R kid we are very woke nowadays so bare that in mind when making such statements. Pastor's son's and daughters are even more embedded in sin and toxicity than ever before in history especially with the internet and the group's you all seem to frequent not that you are but stills you all piss in the same pot 🍄🙏

[@glitchyrhythm6749]

@@tristanoization yeah, I understand. That's why I mad sure to say "genuine"... He practices what he preaches.. I'm well aware of the stereotypes that you're referring to and I no longer claim the title of 'Christian' and that's purely out of principle and consistency of my life choices. I'm very sympathetic to the Christian lifestyle though that's why it's so hard to acknowledge these people as faithful but It's not my place to say one way or the other. this lifestyle is completely disgraceful to the real ones out there and obviously no one's perfect but I think some people would be surprised at how many others there are who truly strive to be faithful.

[@DuskFox7]

Your dad sounds like an amazing man. It’s nice to know that there are gentlemen like that out there. Thanks for sharing.

[@minuit6305]

You should check his browser history. That usually reveals a persons true colors.

[@mrlloyd149]

Keep in mind, this pastor's kids would have thought the same until recently

[@jakobole]

Pastors being tempted by little boys, and then covering it up? Shocking!

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

I grew up in a megachurch that actually had a great pastor with integrity. He never lived lavishly. Had a small house. Stayed faithfully married. He passed away recently. I miss em.

[@genzboomer]

That doesn't sound like a megachurch, more like just a large church. Granted, I define megachurches as large scam churches.

[@jdwyer5708]

..but he didn't know how the universe works and many other fine details which could him & you enormously. For example, YOU HAVE ZERO DIVINE SPARK innately..

[@TheNightWatcher1385]

@@jdwyer5708 Might want to reword your comment. I’m not sure what you’re trying to say.

[@jdwyer5708]

@@TheNightWatcher1385 I periodically throw out comments acting as probes to see simply see if anyone out there desires to the learn the ACTUAL TRUTH of things.. which is now available on the planet in detail. Since everyone moves to spirit-body upon death and continues living and learning it means ALL THE BIBLICAL BEINGS and various prophets, apostles, etc. are now 2000 years wiser than they were then.. and sharing confirmed truths of the existence.. and teaching OTHER SPIRITS.. but few Earth people. I am one of those Earth persons taught by celestials.. and am always looking to share truth about 99.9999% of spiritualists do not know. Peace.

[@LivingForTMH]

@@jdwyer5708 What?

[@Sick_Boy]

If you put "Youth" in front of Pastor, Minister, etc. then absolutely, I'd 100% expect him to look like that. 🤣👌🍻

[@sulffffffur]

LMAO right?!

[@donnylurch4207]

I used to attend a Baptist church in the early 2000s. They hired a youth pastor with a spiky, early 2000s haircut, and he had three teenage sons with the exact same haircut.

[@sarah3796]

Yes

[@RollaJones]

He probably was one....ten years ago.

[@taragggg8225]

@@donnylurch4207 😂🤣😂

[@SarahTochhawng]

Love this video's flow! You completely has my attention for all 11 mins. So well done.

[@ryanroberts1104]

That's so weird that a church would try to hide something. They're always so honest and trustworthy!

[@WobblesandBean]

I know, right? I'm absolutely shocked and/or appalled.

[@staciewhite6442]

🤣😂😆

[@pablopereyra7126]

I take no opinion on this

[@agua246]

@@pablopereyra7126 by not taking opinion you just made an opinion on this

[@oritsela]

Hahahahahaha, right? Being a preacher's kid, I can CONFIRM pastors are the most trustworthy people, no abuse, deception or manipulation to see here!

[@elijahdoesstuff4600]

I'm a Christian but I'd say I have a somewhat unfavorable view of the modern American church, and stuff like this epitomizes why. I think the song "Jesus He Knows Me" by Genesis is basically the theme song of "pastors" like this.

[@pyxylation]

Absolutely man, this all really freaking hurts to see.

[@postindustrial76]

I always prefer to skip the big churches and go to smaller ones. Much more chill.

[@funkyweapon1981]

That's the point of the song.

[@elijahdoesstuff4600]

@@funkyweapon1981 Yeah, exactly. It's still relevant today is what I'm saying.

[@hotsauce1646]

Even the bible said " there will be many fake profits" . I beleave we found some more of them.

[@jerryiverson8872]

As a Christian I'm glad for your video. People need to know this kind of thing goes on. Keep doing the Lord's work.

[@rikijett310]

I used to go to church. Several of them. Not anymore. After having had ministers try to hook up with me... Finding out how incredibly fake and hypocritical so many church leaders and members really are... Being told that I'm going to hell if I don't regularly attend that specific church... Ministers and others being far more interested in money than in doing the Lords teachings... It's just all too much. I now focus on my own relationship with God and my Lord and savior Jesus Christ. May God bless you all. ✝️❤

[@bobobake1232]

There are many God Loving and fearing pastors thankfully... but I totally understand what you mean... in the same position here... Jesus always spoke about the heart... didn't he? Sure wish he would have shown me it sooner... peace!

[@jccarlos8790]

What "the chosen" both seasons! Download on your phone. Have watch 3 times already!! Its changing my life

[@lihane259]

That is what I do too...

[@jessicajohnston5693]

Similar situation. I hope all goes well for you 🙏💖

[@rikijett310]

@@jessicajohnston5693 thank you!!! For you as well!! 😊

[@sondracooper6866]

dude I used to go to a “sister church” of hillsong and after I left I realized how brainwashed we all were worshipping these wanna-be celebrities, It’s so obvious shit like this is going to happen in an environment like that.

[@alejandrovargas7592]

... lovin' all the hilarious animations and graphics you use to make the stories interesting and fun.

[@DavidGossettMusic]

Positions of power will attract narcissistic, abusive people, whether it's political power, religious power, business, entertainment, etc. This isn't specific to just the church or mega-churches. I've worked in the Christian music industry for years, and I've met some absolute monsters, but I've also met some amazing genuine people who are honestly trying to help people. It bothers me that people like Carl Lentz, John Crist, Carmen, etc. essentially discredit the work of people who genuinely want to make a difference.

[@minedgravy380]

The problem is more so with these intuitions we call churches hiding everything, they are supposed to be at a moral standard. Instead they shield the brand.

[@twilightsparkle75]

which is why we should never allow humans to gain positions of power. they will always corrupt and abuse in the end.

[@mik3191]

@@twilightsparkle75 That’s why people should valve strength over power

[@maxheedrum100]

Carmen, mission 3:16 Carmen? When did this happen?

[@twilightsparkle75]

@@mik3191 eeehhhh thats when you get into the "might makes right" problem where just because something is stronger or more powerful that meansthat they can do what they want and its ok. which is absolutely false. being stronger doesnt make your actions permissable or correct.

[@mick-luv-in]

Bruh the animations are pure gold. So simplistic, yet perfect

[@Rolonok]

yeah internet historian would be proud

[@BlackWestCoast]

😂😂😂🤣😂🤣🤣 forreal, i was dying at the simplicity yet hilariousness of them. On top of the terrible acting to boot. Good shit.

[@ghw1985]

It's like old-school Newgrounds stuff, i love it lol

[@tampenismall2195]

Simple and easy to understand

[@archangel5627]

I completely agree with you. The animation had me actually laughing out loud 😂. This channel is awesome!

[@mz4420]

I watched a couple of your videos. I really enjoyed your presentation, content, articulation style, mild wit. Great work. Subscribed!

[@janelbbuck]

For normal pastors I expect the possibility that some of them are cheating or doing some shady things, mostly the ones that love popularity. But a celebrity focused pastor like Carl. I expect cheating to happen 100%.

[@ErikNilsen1337]

Former pastor's kid here. The concept of pastoral burnout is pretty well-known by people who grew up in church. It doesn't always have to be the result of scandal and degeneracy, as in this video's example. It's a high-stress, low-paying job (generally) that can wear people out over time. Burnout doesn't always end in loss of faith; one can reach a point when he just doesn't want to be a pastor any more, but still believe in Christ.

[@JoseHernandez-he2yc]

I believe a LOT of People are called to be Pastors but they dont answer the calling so the weight falls on a few and thats where the burn-out happens. Also the church is weak and have no wisdom to council , some small things should be solved by the church members themselves. I hope you have gone back to serving God bless you.

[@ErikNilsen1337]

@@JoseHernandez-he2yc My dad is no longer a pastor, but we still serve God. He said that while he no longer feels called to pastoral ministry, his parental ministry is more important.

[@agua246]

@@ErikNilsen1337 thats honestly beautiful that your dad values family that more.

[@ErikNilsen1337]

@@agua246 It's biblical. The NT epistles tell prospective church leaders to have their families in order before taking up a leadership position. And in the OT, though David was a great king, his family life was a mess, and suffered for it.

[@TheEMC99]

Yep. And many pastors are so convicted about falling short. They push way beyond their limits and feel guilty about taking vacation. The suicide rate and turnover is crazy. It's reality heartbreaking.

[@JimJones-kj8jk]

I didn't know your channel until I heard you were being harassed by a manchild hacker. Now I am watching your channel and enjoying it so far.

[@Ichabod_Jericho]

You can get away with the most disgusting things by calling yourself “pastor” or “father”.

[@StarboyXL9]

That's why my rule of thumb is to never, ever trust a Pastor that insists on being called "Pastor." That just proves they're all about the title.

[@staciewhite6442]

In my life I’ve witnessed more Christ-like behavior out side of church walls than inside.

[@dopedoge3603]

Yeah those sound like terrible churches

[@manoahvanderwolf3259]

Ghandi said it right.

[@fredwright5954]

pfft, yeah whateve

[@staciewhite6442]

@@fredwright5954 is a person not free so speak to his or her experience?

[@raizenr2387]

I fully agree with you. The organized church has become a festering breeding ground of Pride, Greed, and Wrath. I've seen too many "Godly" people who hate and degrade those they feel are beneath them.

[@ٴٴٴٴ_0]

I hate how people always cover up for these guys while the victims get no sympathy or protection

[@koreanenemy4577]

That Rena girl sounds like she’s on the same narcissistic level as Carl .

[@flowergirl5336]

I agree but what makes you say that. I like hearing people's analysis

[@koreanenemy4577]

@@flowergirl5336 The whole “He was like a blank canvas to paint on” shtick. She literally hired a P.I to find out more about this guy, found out he had a wife and 3 kids and what did she do?? She bangs him and passes it off as sometime of spiritual journey for her to fix this guy’s happiness by banging him behind his wife’s back. To say something like that and believe your not even in the wrong, it’s almost envious to be that full of yourself. They both suck but Jesus Christ this lady was as delusional as the moron she slept with.

[@drillosophy1012]

True. She also looks like a great lay though. But I have codependent tendencies, so that makes sense.

[@standupstraight9691]

She styles herself as an old testament pagan goddess. Huge red flag.

[@Allyourbase1990]

I went to a pretty big church in the Atlanta area, and the pastor was so obsessed with having a celebrity status that he had 5 separate affairs with other married women. He ruined his own marriage, and relationship with his kids. It was very very sad because I really thought he was an awesome preacher.

[@removedot]

It’s amazing how even with all these details it could still be several different people

[@batsnackattack]

Really, what was the name of the church and pastor?

[@CharlesVanNoland]

When you have it all, it's never enough.

[@MrHankHill]

I once met a pastor who looked like that when I worked in rural Montana. A US Marshall came to town to arrest him so myself and accouple of my Sheriff dpt. colleagues went in to get him, but his followers crashed our helicopter. So anyways long story short I took down three of his "Family'" members when I located him in an Island he set off a fucking Nuke before I could arrest him.

[@archygrey9093]

Lol

[@paulj6805]

I've never played far cry 5 but I was able to accurately guess what game that was based on a trailer I saw 5 years ago. Do I get some kind of award?

[@MrHankHill]

@@paulj6805 Yes, you get the 'Memory of an elephant' award.

[@BigBoss-fg7sj]

It took me a second to realize

[@MegakeepWorks]

They got us in the first half, not gonna lie.

[@MA-naconitor]

Honestly. I like your mini-docs. Very informative, no drawn out non-informative B-roll, straight to the point.

[@trumpetmasta92]

“No, I just wanna f**k.” So she continues to keep seeing him 🤣🤣 what?!

[@Napolegnom]

The baffling thing is that Carl Lentz ends up having done the least worst thing by a long shot.

[@blackreazor]

That's what I was thinking. I was like wait. Hold the founders be have done monstrous things yet they are worried about this Bible bro getting his nut on the side. Like bro u just accused a a victim of "tempting" your grow ass PASTOR father like wtf.

[@asdfasdf3989]

@@blackreazor Who are you talking about?

[@serene2414]

Great job with the information included. To think wanted to actually become a regular member of this church. I'm now totally convinced many of these guys are covering their true selves by getting into ministry and becoming pastors.

[@astralfluxaf]

This story is so insane I honestly thought you were making it up at first 😅

[@erikm8372]

it was publicized to some extent...lol...I think... jk

[@thomasloveless4800]

I feel a Netflix movie coming…..

[@stev6963]

Dude you cover some insane stories that I had no idea about. The research you do for your videos is impressive enough, but the way you tell the story is also very engaging and entertaining. You are one of my new favorite channels and I can’t wait to see your channel grow bigger.

[@JDJENT]

well said

[@jkhtravelrn]

I agree 100% with you, @stev6963.

[@bigbowlowrong4694]

Churches and child molestation, name a more iconic duo

[@alejandrovargas7592]

Even one of Billy Graham's grandsons was in the news last year for acting very much the same ways. Just disgusting.

[@snicksabea]

They’ve probably always acted that way.

[@psolee21]

Damn the new generation of preachers have the same flimsy morals as the old ones but with some solid core . Of to take a shower now , have to get rid of any residual sliminess I might have gotten on me just from listening about this guy . Great video as always .

[@VinceVintage]

Preach it to the choir! It’s these damn celebrity pastors ruining everything

[@funkyweapon1981]

@@VinceVintage The work for the other guy, not God.

[@fawnieee]

Jesus would be mortified tbh

[@jordanmartin8656]

Jesus man

[@toastgoats7545]

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[@luskvideoproductions869]

I snarfed my coffee with the Chris Pratt image...well played, sir, well played indeed

[@Sachin.Chandra]

You gotta realise that this Church idea by celebrities are business ideas pitched to them to serve 2 main purposes 1. Maintain a cult following (fanbase to keep selling records) 2. Tax purposes. These little hiccups can be considered cost of doing business. Until either a major financial scandal comes to light or they royally mess up (Celeb turns out to be R. Kelly Pro+) they will stay in operation and will be able to influence future generations with their talent and by controlling their god.

[@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access]

This makes me angry on a level I didn’t know I had

[@StarboyXL9]

@@Werewolf.with.Internet.Access Welcome to how Prosperity Cults work bro, you just get here?

[@kylefoster6795]

I honestly couldn't care less about this story but this guy kept me entertained enough to watch the entire thing

[@nancyjones6780]

The misspelled words in your videos are like Easter eggs!😂😂 But they're still great❤

[@GlinkBetweenWorlds]

taking notes on Carl's cold approach

[@VinceVintage]

I would be his altar boy any day

[@NightDocs]

Rule 1: be attractive Rule 2: don’t be unattractive

[@herojeannabomb9802]

I grew up in church, my great grand father started said church years ago, I even went to school there 7th thru 10th grade. my family owns the church, mainly my mom's cousin, my second cousin. About 20 years ago they remodeled the church, took out the pews, replaced them with chairs, took out the fancy chandeliers, replaced them with modern lights. When I was a kid that church was my second home, I could walk in that church day or night and be at home, even make myself a sandwich in the kitchen if I was so inclined. Now you walk in and all the doors are locked, even to the sanctuary, my million dollar cousin is on day star yet my mother pulls her groceries home in a cart because she can't afford a car. My million dollar family does not call to see if we even need a ride to church, they are stuck up and selfish, I still love Jesus and I worry about how they will be judged in the end. Last time I looked up his net worth it was 1.2 million , must be nice, making all that money off of God's word which is exactly what Jesus warned us of!!! I won't tell you who my million dollar pentecostal preachin cousin is but I'll tell you that he just recently started pairing up and touring with Perry Stone.

[@dsrree]

5:30 these animations are hilarious 💀

[@jamesdavis2231]

Thank you for exposing this! So many are in the dark.....

[@ABC-jt9cm]

I had that stupid book catching dust in the house for at least a year. I was just about to read it today, until I noticed the front cover that said he is the lead pastor from HILLSONG NYC. I've heard about the one of the members going atheist, and now this fool who can't keep it in his pants. The book is going straight to the 🗑 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@biersy6838]

I am honestly impressed by your journalism good shit

[@enkidu9298]

I feel pretty bad for Justin. I imagine he wanted to get help for his drug addiction, and now he's been embarrassed by this charlatan.

[@gregbors8364]

I would never feel bad for any little entitled creep who literally spits on his own fans

[@j.i.nthenobody54]

Spitting on people isn’t the worst thing you can do, believe me.

[@bate01071]

I am with you. Justin is no saint and many have likely used him in various ways and I have no idea what fame and the whole spectrum of superfans to haters has done to him. This probably wasn’t helpful for Bieber in finding a center apart from his public image.

[@JassminaVellucci]

Don't feel bad for him. they would go party together. While they were in Australia together, they went clubbing. I think the only reason. Justin stop talking to him. Was to cover his Brand [Image]. Which he was having problems with.

[@ruth80809]

I stopped listening to the band, deleted all their songs from my playlist. 60 Minutes Australia did a story about this and it infuriated the hell out of me. Seriously, some of the worst kind of people exist within churches.

[@JDJENT]

that's probably why they go to church

[@batsnackattack]

You're a wildly strict legalistic 'puritan' type who thinks an affair is the worst kind of person you've ever heard of. So bad you can't even dare listen to a song by some other people.

[@ItsOKtobeNormal]

That 60 minutes was a really good episode, good as in informative, they really went all in.

[@MarkovianMan]

Those are the types that believe they have a perpetual "get out of jail free card" and can sin all they want because Jesus will keep forgiving them.

[@jhoughjr1]

@@MarkovianManyeah it’s a Protestant heresy

[@avengingbathtub1011]

Only in Hollywood can someone like him be mistaken as a man of god

[@achilles3669]

I thought youtubers save the face reveal to the 1 million mark, thanks for the entertainment m8, cheers 🍻

[@VinceVintage]

Cheers man! I thought it was the 1k mark? lol

[@tacomonkey222]

@@VinceVintage to late now, full body reveal at 1M?

[@VinceVintage]

@@tacomonkey222 Ingenious idea 💡 1 Mill Here we come!

[@odskeet]

Is this dude a 60 year old Palestinian

[@achilles3669]

?!

[@Shimeih]

This guy can tell stories so well. Also, the animations are A tier👌🏽😂😂

[@SincerelyTracie]

Your acting with the cutouts is hilarious 😂

[@aellipsis]

I was an assistant in children’s school at my church for years when I was a teenager. My pastor was a chaplain of the local police department so he asked for information to do a background check. As a 13yo I didn’t know the details and when I told my parents they basically said that they’d get back to me. I worked a “job” for three years that required a background check (to make the parents feel confident in the people that they trust their kids to) without ever being asked again for a background check. This was all around the time that the Catholic Church issues were coming into public purview, so I think that is was mostly face to show that they were doing something, when in reality, they were not.

[@basedautistic6021]

I actually met CL. He seemed really polite and was charismatic. Then I saw those pics of him when Joe Rogan talked about him and I started thinking…. This guys probably full of it.

[@CAPTAIN-FIDGET]

sure you did !

[@dewilew2137]

Narcissists are always charismatic, usually polite at first.

[@dontlookmeinmyeyeswhenudan5241]

A very aggressive dick root is what Joe said 🤣

[@JC-zj2is]

@@dontlookmeinmyeyeswhenudan5241 lmaooo he called it

[@chrisprescott2273]

I just love your animations. They crack me up every time.

[@KaoticReach1999]

Man....THIS IS WHY PEOPLE HAVE TRUST ISSUES If he was gettin his life together and got his things together then maybe it could of been a redemption story....instead everyone was corrupt THE CHURCH NEVER EVEN PAID THEM AND EVEN TRIED TO VICTIM BLAME Smh Catholic Church flashbacks, their just hypocrites that constantly proved it

[@trickyrichard]

8:34 they were paid.

[@Dan-sc6sf]

This is a protestant church though

[@matberry5]

Everyone should have trust issues.

[@claudia-uy5gk]

@@Dan-sc6sf its not a church

[@Visha054]

@@Dan-sc6sf Catholic Church's are far worst with there pedo scandals. F** both the churches.

[@kevinrios8127]

My x fiances father abandoned his whole family. 7 kids. They all grew up to be trash human beings. The guy went on to be a Pastor. After reaching out to him and asking why he said. "I put it in God's hands."

[@WobblesandBean]

Lots of objectively terrible people love to use that excuse. "You can't be mad at me, cuz god forgives me". 🙄

[@acmelka]

This guy is a good story teller

[@nylonpython]

It isn't really fair to say "The lead singer of the hillsong group". They have a ton of lead singers, they have more lead singers than Slipknot has drummers.

[@Slugcent]

Defending an establishment in anyway that defends a rapist is a bad look dude

[@nylonpython]

Hillsong currently have 6 lead singers. In the history of the band they've had 14. Mentioning that isn't defending the organization or the rapist.

[@israelduarte1189]

@@Slugcent isn't a good look dude. You're a politically correct vagina.

[@MrAdamloring1985]

I think he may have been mistaken. I looked up the story and there was no mention of this man being a part of the Hillsong music group, just that he was in an administrative position within the church.

[@nylonpython]

@@MrAdamloring1985 I thought it was weird that a singer for Hillsong was molesting someone in LA. As far as i know they're all Australian.

[@francknathan7127]

That Justin Bieber pastor for some reason I always knew from day 1 something wasn’t right about him. Like if you really know Christianity you definitely felt it deep down. For someone who calls himself a man of God there was just so many things about him, his actions, way of life that wasn’t adding up. When all of these came out I wasn’t really surprised but was surprised that many people didn’t see that coming

[@ketercharles8584]

honestly true.

[@762459]

Carl Lentz really looks like the cult leader in Far Cry 5.

[@theoutsiderjess1869]

It's so hard for me to consider this man a pastor he only seemed to do it for the fame and money and helped a small amount of people along the way only for gain

[@nashbullet3213]

Only a simpleton would view this attention seeking, fame drunk charlatan as a pastor...

[@truediva18]

That's how my former pastor got busted! He left his device out in the open and someone picked it up and they snitched.

[@Steph-sk3xb]

If any of this stuff happened in my church, the priest and community would go completely independent. We’ve threatened to do so for a lot less.

[@darksideofthemood]

Dude, i just discovered your channel and i love how you approach topics some would consider delicate with that certain ease. I listen to you while trying to rest as i am sick and you help me go through the day, thank you so much.

[@JDJENT]

hope you're feeling better

[@Charlotte-kv7bk]

Thank you Vince.

[@trinsit]

There are no happy endings here. Only shit that keeps piling higher when you think it's about to stop. Fantastic reporting.

[@brt5273]

Such creeps. Its all so bizarre. I don't think it's really too uncommon though. I used to go to a church where the pastor's wife was doing the women's counseling when they were having issues. Later the Pastor's wife up and left him and the story comes out. One of the women had started making a habit of calling the Pastor's wife at all hours and having breakdowns where the Pastor's wife said she needed to go help her and would end up staying gone all night. This started happening a lot. Finally the Pastor had enough and told his wife she was not going to go out in the middle of the night like that. She told him she was going, and she did. They had a big falling out, she totally left him AND we found out began living in a relationship with the other woman, who left her husband too. THEN one of the other wives left her husband because the Pastor and she were having an affair, AND that woman just happened to be the sister of the woman the Pastor's wife ran off with! They ended up getting married and are to this day, and they have a "ministry". So the church split up in multiple ways with a bout half leaving to continue supporting the adulterous Pastor. Another church I went to the Pastor was big into boy's youth ministry. As probably expected, he was having sex with every boy he could, as well as getting caught cruising certain areas in town for anonymous sexual encounters. Every time he would get caught he made a big show out of asking God's forgiveness and there would be a huge prayer meeting where he would be cleansed , and miraculously God took away all his urges...until he got caught again and again. I went to another where the Pastor went off for some sort of retreat and ended up having some sort of mystical experience except the spiritual experience inspired him to leave his wife and the congregation to be with the woman who was leading the retreat. I finally, thankfully, had enough of all that and called it quits with the Church. Good riddence.

[@jhoughjr1]

wow thats some baptist shit there.

[@StarboyXL9]

Good Lord what the flippty-flop-fuck?

[@TheDarthCookies]

The David koresh glasses are an interesting style choice

[@JohnDaker_singer]

His weird glasses scream "I"M A WEIRDO!!".

[@braunwynd.16]

Tyler Perry is absolutely disgusting. We’re supposed to “respect” him because he dresses as “Madea?” Would an/the actual Madea condone what Carl Lentz did? I understand Tyler Perry had a hand in creating “Precious” (along with Oprah and Lee Daniels) but that does NOT excuse the utterly grotesque gesture of Tyler Perry funding Carl’s rent, especially after the allegations made. Tyler Perry needs to be canceled, and soon!

[@fuziontonygaming]

“Tyler Perry put me in his movie!”

[@erikm8372]

wait- Tyler Perry expects our respect for dressing up? I mean, I don't like him either, after the Monique-Oprah-Lee drama, but when did he say this? You're right tho, the "real Madea" [personality-type] lady would probably whoop Carl's ass outta the church hahaha

[@yep_2431]

Woah slow down. You brought up so much that was completely unrelated to the issue. You're pissed to the point of "Cancelling" Madea because Tyler helped someone out with their rent? I could understand your reaction if you were like the cheated on spouse🤣. But damn man, since we're not involved in this, why should we care the slightest bit about Carl fucking up his marriage? That shits between him and his wife, not you, me or Tyler Perry. It's not even our business nor place to judge. So let's let Tyler do with his money whatever legal things he wants to. And pretend we're not all up in someone else's personal business that we had no right to be in to begin with, for real🤣

[@nashbullet3213]

@@yep_2431 Then what the fuck are you doing here anyway? Since it ain't yo business...

[@PunkRockGardener]

Is that what Jesus would do?🤣

[@j_de_bordeaux]

This is sooo awesome. Great video

[@kitleongii4688]

"He hangs out with Oprah, he's Legit.." - Joe Rogan The sarcasm on Joe at that podcast, priceless.

[@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw]

It’s sad how these types of churches absorb so much good will from people through donations and use it towards mansions and extravagant lifestyles for their pastors. People who want to do good are tricked into thinking they are and don’t actually help anyone like they want to.

[@Trill.Clipz.Channel]

I’ve been a victim of a pastor doing something similar to this when I was in a mega church & you can NOT let one person decision dictate your love for the church. That’s exactly how evil creeps in just one to hurt the many .

[@Ilikeavocados123]

Nice copping mechanism

[@cyan_2169]

being religious is cringe nowadays

[@cr-jj1nr]

Keep going to megachurches I'm sure your guy was an anomaly

[@Trill.Clipz.Channel]

@@cyan_2169 a lot of things are cringe nowadays

[@askwhateverlol]

@@cyan_2169 says the furry 😆