What the HELL have they done to Celine Dion's voice?!!

[@s2sailingfree]

My mother sang me to sleep without pitch correction. My wife said “I do” without pitch correction, my daughter said “daddy” without pitch correction. Real life, real emotions, real love is not pitch corrected.

[@12thDecember]

One of the most insightful comments I've ever read.

[@akb5531]

Amen, my friend!!

[@Johnc259]

Very well said sir.

[@aindriubradleymarshall6226]

🎯

[@1msbucket]

Well said!!!!

[@mustangsally4362]

I’ve seen Celine live 3 times, her natural voice is absolutely incredible. This “ electronic intervention “ is horrendous. Thank you for reviewing Fil x

[@lydiabentley3413]

You are very fortunate to have seen her : 3 times live

[@campbellreither550]

Exactly. And Celine is notorious for miming to a play back.

[@frankbarnwell____]

Oh goodness. 7 am, I've awoken to the pitch-corrected nightmare. Shall we get the USS Mason to intervene?

[@lizatsurkan4323]

@@campbellreither550 Celine does not require playback she can actually sing in case you didn’t know ( yes I know she uses it)

[@campbellreither550]

@@lizatsurkan4323 I know she can sing, of course she can. But she does use a lot of playback in concerts. That's been shown by multiple posters on KZbin.

[@dagmar.6954]

What a travesty! Celine is such a talented gifted singer who needs no voice manipulation. Very sad that this is now becoming a standard in the music industry.

[@jaclynholland-strauss7054]

Pitch correcting Celine Dion is like repainting the Mona Lisa with crayons.

[@rubybarker791]

💯

[@Music-Is-Real-Love]

💯

[@sfbayareagirl]

Or paint by numbers. Great comment.

[@verapena9465]

Lol

[@RexySmith]

😂😂😂😂😂 let me "Microsoft Paint-it "a little, print my cheap copy and glue it on top 😂😂😂 🤌🏻

[@timursulaimanov2550]

This ability to shift tone of voice at will and mix notes together, almost like a chord, this is a hallmark of Celine Dion. Pitch correcting her is corrupting a great work of art that her singing is

[@longcastle4863]

There may be people mad at you, but I think you’re doing the music industry a service. Hopefully they are listening.

[@Psalm1267]

@longcastle4863 Yeah..."industry" - that's precisely what's wrong with it.

[@dermur68]

The only people that'll be mad are the X Factor type of show producers. Trying to make stars out of anyone and everyone, make a few $$$ out of them and then leave them on the rubbish tip.

[@irishguy200007]

Not out of everyone, just models.

[@Music-Is-Real-Love]

Yes!!!!!!!!!.

[@Music-Is-Real-Love]

​@@Psalm1267 💯

[@kew3264]

Astonishing what the producers did to her artistry. Your channel has become a masterclass in the meaning of “music criticism,” Fil. Thank you. Brilliant.

[@JohnChristopherChristoph-qr1ze]

Hello there beautiful how are you doing today? I hope you're having a great and beautiful new year, ❤🎈 may this year be brings you good health wealth and joy Amen 🙏 do you think we could be friends?

[@davidbroadley2983]

I'm sure you've mentioned this Beethoven quote. Pitch correction removes all emotion and feel for the music. To play a wrong note is insignificant; to play without passion is inexcusable.” ― Ludwig van Beethoven

[@Michael-F4ul5kzbuck]

Oh Man thats the best comment ever!!!! yes passion is the heart of the matter...He nailed it in what ever year that ancient man was...Nailed it Ludwig!! thanks davidbroadley2983.

[@Laura-rp2ki]

@@davidbroadley2983 wow. I love that. And, at first I thought the quote was “pitch correction removes…”. I was like, what on Earrh world does this person live in? 😂😂😂

[@takeUSback2024]

I don't understand how this can be done to the performances of a superstar like Celine Dion without her knowledge and consent.

[@richardlevasseur6771]

I would think she would be insulted!

[@Oligodendrocyte139]

She probably doesn’t own the rights to the broadcast.

[@pn1123]

I wonder if she is too ill now to fight this. Shame on you, evil record label, for committing this blasphemy!!!

[@RichardABradley-ze9qn]

I don't understand how this can be done to a superstar like Celine Dion with her consent publicly admitted, without expensive damage to her reputation or at least considerably greater financial risk than if it were understood that she knew nothing about it and had no control.

[@Michael-F4ul5kzbuck]

i tell people... theyre condtioning everyone to accept Ai in full..its alot worse than just pitch correcting great music..

[@carlasainz95]

There is absolutely NO reason for them to use pitch correction on her voice. Her voice is amazing as it is!

[@lydiabentley3413]

Totally agree

[@alicaramba7680]

Maybe she was sick that day or something. There is no a single doubt she herself authorised pitch correction. This stuff happens all the time. If singer is a worldwide star and is on a tour with strict schedule you should understand no singer can perform at the very best all the time every second or third night. Now I've checked Taylor Swift's tour dates and she performs on February 7 to 10 e4very night in Tokyo. Is it possible she will pull out a single show without lip sync, backing vocal recording and live pitch correction? No. These are truly shows not concerts. And I will add Celine Dion is far from the very best singers in the world, like you or not. Her voice sounds unnaturally high meaning she always needs to heavily strain voice cords with every song because most of pop songs are destined to be heard in isolation. And vast majority of songs performed are hits non-stop with very little to no window for a rest. The public judges. If they content with lip sync and artificially tuned voices, what's your problem? I will add even without pitch correction her voice on recordings and on live performances always is manipulated so likely you never ever heard her natural singing.

[@lizatsurkan4323]

@@alicaramba7680 you don’t know anything about Celine so please don’t speak on her

[@bethanyhuber2598]

To pitch correct, auto tune, or electronically try to change anything about Celine Dion’s voice would be a crime! She is one of the best of the best in the world! Hope they leave all the old music alone. It certainly would be a crying shame to have them ruin the magic of pure God given talent. We need to stop whoever thinks this is a good thing to do. Love your work, Fil!

[@Lorraine3033]

As a singer my appreciation of you has never been deeper than your take on this video of my fave. Celine. I nearly jumped through my TV yelling "YESSS" when that instrument came in and her voice immediately flipped and began to blend slightlly under that horn's note. I'm pretty ticked off that anyone had the bollicks to believe they could improve upon that instrument that Celine possesses. To me her voice is more than just a voice. Thanks for taking this one on!❤

[@davehall8584]

well said Lorraine.....her voice is astonishing as it is.

[@TracyD2]

I am convinced they want to take the soul out of EVERYTHING!

[@LillyMarz777]

Absolutely they do. Everything that is happening is a spiritual war for souls. Peeps, get saved, time is short. 1 Cor Ch 15 Vs 1-4

[@ellie698]

Bingo

[@1msbucket]

Yep they sure do

[@1msbucket]

​@@LillyMarz777 agree

[@MountainMetal]

I give you Taylor Swift. The 'music' is so plastic and inartistic, it's as if they're deliberately looking to dehydrate the soul of our culture.

[@nancy9891]

OMG this is horrible! Don’t control yourself Fil. This sounds like a nasal infection! Unbelievably painful 😣

[@jeaninia]

The saddest part, in my opinion, I’m worried the pitch correction software will improve. They will then use it and it will be more “normal” sounding and not as easy to detect. I like that it stands out like a sore thumb at present.

[@richardlevasseur6771]

Good point!

[@ellie698]

Indeed. Why bother with any real singers at all. Just have an ai robot on stage 🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️🤦🏻‍♀️

[@RogCBrand]

@@ellie698 It reminds me of sci-fi stories where future people are repulsed by the idea of eating natural foods, rather than their processed cubes of "nutrient stuff"! When people grow up on processed food or music, that's what they'll see as "normal"! That'll be horrible!

[@ellie698]

@@RogCBrand I agree with you. New generations are being brought up to accept digitised *everything* and thinking that is normal. I'm so glad I grew up when I did. I'm assuming you've read Brave New World. It's good to re-read it from time to time!

[@Psalm1267]

@@ellie698 "Just have an ai robot on stage" That's coming.

[@deeber3960]

A few seconds into the song, and I could see you just wanted to cry, but you had the reserve not to. Well, I cried for us all.

[@nagagab9224]

I have studied and mimiced her voice sind 1998- all of her songs, especially the french ones, are like masterclasses- she is actually a lyric-dramatic coloratura (mezzo)soprano- her "belting" comes from her quebequoise-canadian french-it is very high placed and nasal- loads of naturtal twang in canadian french- her inspirations are Anne Murray, Barbra Streisand, Maria Callas and Ginette Reno....(she has named all of them as those in interviews)

[@pninnabokov3734]

OMG! You've been mimicking that yowling, contorted, hideous banshee since 1998! Anathema!

[@frankbarnwell____]

Awesome. Guess that means I like to listen to Mrs Dion, sing. Not accompanied by some electrical overload noise.

[@NinmahMa]

Eyes closed, I would not recognize this as her voice.

[@NinmahMa]

I don’t think it’s about correcting her voice. I think it’s about training media listeners to accept artificial voice.

[@pninnabokov3734]

@@NinmahMa Closing your eyes re. Celine is a lifesaving idea. Unfortunately, her "chialee-ing" will ever be instantly recognizable.

[@Erik_Swiger]

Thanks to this channel, I'm now hyper-aware of pitch correction and auto-tune. To my ear, the stuck notes sound robotic, and nasal, and...hollow. And sadly, it's everywhere, even with the greatest singers we've ever had.

[@ellie698]

They sound soulless don't they. Celine's voice is flawless

[@alexbodi5526]

Tbf the actual performance was still nasal. The pitch correction is still obvious though. The last 2 minutes of this performance are particularly bad.

[@janleonard3101]

We need to archive live performances of great singers before they're all autotuned out of existence.

[@johnhewett9483]

Thank you Fil. The pitch corrected version is intolerable, so obvious. I went to the kitchen to make a coffee and her voice sounded like a keyboard instrument. These people are destroying music, expression and natural talent. Ffs record producers stop meddling in things you do not understand!!!

[@lbfuller5013]

Fil, This video really demonstrates what you have been saying about pitch correction. I totally get it now. This is horrible what they have done.

[@veramilton833]

They have destroyed Celine Dion's voice ! I have asked before , but I will ask again ! Does the artist have the right to not allow pitch correction to be applied to the vocals? If I were her, I would be furious! This is absolutely sickening!

[@jbjjbb]

Yes as the musician, you can ask to not be pitch corrected.

[@Laura-rp2ki]

I keep wondering the same thing and someone pointed out that the musician may not have the rights to the broadcasting or something which then leaves the door open for producers to do this. That makes sense to me but I have nothing to back that up. Ha

[@maryrea2314]

Celine being in bad health good be the reason her voice has changed🎉

[@Sonia-xyz]

Celine's voice sure is good enough. Even much better than what's been made of it. Poor woman has this horrible disease. 😓 No one in the future will know her real voice anymore, her so beautiful voice. Such a shame!

[@orbyfan]

She sounds like she has a horrible disease--perhaps a sinus problem--in this video, thanks to the pitch "correction."

[@oscartango2348]

Imagine hearing possibly the greatest voice of our lifetime, and thinking "I can fix that".

[@samanthaagneslumapas8479]

Awful ignorant new generation peeps who are pretentious and like fake things for sure… thats the world today..

[@Michael-F4ul5kzbuck]

its a crime

[@carolb3946]

Great analysis! What a difference with and without pitch correction when you have such a dynamic singer, as Celine. That's when you say, don't mess with perfection.

[@The5Leeses]

She sounds like a robotic Eric Carmen.😮

[@debbier938]

Hi Fil, I knew you wouldn’t be able to control yourself…LOL…!! This was so blatantly pitch corrected and might be one of worst cases one we’ve looked at so far. Great job hashing it all out and showing how her natural voice needs no pitch correction. Celine has a beautiful voice and as you said one of the most iconic and unmistakable voices of our time. She always seems to nail every song she sings with pure emotion and true talent. Thanks for looking at this one, awesome analysis! Debbie☮️

[@marciahuehn2365]

I could see and feel the pain in your face when you heard what “they” are doing to her performance. Thanks for being honest and authentic. ❤love always

[@deborahferguson1163]

I agree, pitch correction and Celine shouldn’t even be in the same sentence, wow “her” voice sounds terrible in this recording. Such a horrible thing to do that to her voice!!!

[@pninnabokov3734]

I have two things that would go perfectly in the same sentence regarding that hag.

[@lydiabentley3413]

Absolutely right

[@lydiabentley3413]

I agree

[@lydiabentley3413]

Totally correct

[@juliec5309]

I saw her live in 1999...my first thought was wow her voice is better luve than on her albums...it was very different...the emotions were in there on top of the beautiful vooice

[@bartowskiofficial]

I saw her in 1999 too and I totally agree - my observation was that she sounded much younger and vibrant!

[@lydiabentley3413]

An excellent analysis and how dare they insult this perfect world class vocalist. I have always loved celine and she deserves total resoect

[@eugenedowns2563]

She isn't in my top 100 favorite singers, but even I have to admit: The lady can sing! To pitch correct someone with her talent and distinctive voice is ludicrous.

[@MG-rg3jo]

This is horrific. If you are doing this to Celine no one is safe.

[@joannasunday]

We are doomed as a species. Everything to be "perfect." Perfect bodies, faces, boobs and now voices. What's left? No more humanity. And now we welcome AI. Great.

[@BugRib]

@joannasunday - That's some dark $hit right there! 😱 Yer probly right tho.

[@pninnabokov3734]

Celine is horrific. If they are doing this we are safe.

[@joannasunday]

@@BugRib i know, sorry. I'm recovering from heart valve surgery. I tend to go dark. Apologies.

[@Lilah1754]

@@joannasunday Wishing you a safe & speedy, full recovery.

[@JennRighter]

Celine is an icon, legend, one of the best singers ever recorded. She needs no correction. No adjustment.

[@cindi1313]

I think one of the things that immediately stands out is the bizarre enunciation of some of the consonants and vowels compared to the non-pitch corrected version, like in the word "love" at the beginning of the song. I think that really makes it sound mechanical, and in this particular instance, really nasal and not like her. You don't need to control yourself, Fil, feel free to drop a few Guff bombs, it's justified!

[@robinkent7378]

Agree! Sounds really strange and mechanical.

[@Electric-Bird-Set-Free]

I thought the same thing

[@juliajones1425]

Thanks, Fil, for showing this comparison. I really wanted to see you do this to show all of us side by side the negative effect of pitch correction. In the corrected version she sounds like a flat nasal buzz. In the uncorrected one, she sounds wonderful, warm and expressive. This is awesome to see. ❤

[@nettycoleman6675]

The non pitch corrected version was definitely music to my ears.

[@danieloleary1067]

Celine sounds like an automoton...robotic, no emotion , expressionless. Fil's frustration and disgust is palatable. I couldn't agree more. Another compelling and astute analysis. Great job Fil.

[@mwflanagan1]

I hope Celine sees this analysis, Fil. She will appreciate you and your efforts.

[@johnnymoondog]

Its like she is singing through her nose ! (Snortotune ! )

[@Elaine_Parhamovich]

Funny you say that. My first thought was that she sounded like she had a clothes pin on her nose (on the pitch corrected one, of course).

[@pamelagosch9868]

I had to fast forward it I just couldn’t listen to it made my stomach hurt 🤦🏼‍♀️

[@idkwhoami6269]

For me, you did great! I'm a Celine Dion fan for over a decade, and all I can say is that the production team or maybe the team of Celine really edited her voice and for me it is quite bad or inhumane it kind of sounds like a robot because of the autotune they added! I am impressed by her voice even if there's no autotune or pitch correction she expresses her own songs emotion and for me they should let her sing her own way, I know that pitch correction is needed when a singer is struggling but at the same time Celine's natural voice takes over the performance, she is natural the way she is, she's a talented and gifted singer who doesn't need those kind of voice autocorrection or something, you are truly honest and I am so proud for you for entertaining us and doing music industry service!

[@Erik_Swiger]

Fil, we seriously need some sort of project to archive the original recordings, to keep copies out of the hands of producers who will go back in time and erase all our favorite songs. I mean, if you have vinyl or a cassette or a DVD of music from way back, you need to both preserve it, and make it accessible to others. A sort of music underground.

[@ron_gerson]

No doubt, one of the greatest singers of our time. I agree, what the producer did is infuriating. I saw her live in concert and her talent was breathtaking. Thanks Fil.

[@tedgermaine7050]

Fil love your commentaries. When this was recorded on her world tour on 2007 she started having symptoms of ultimately the disease she was diagnosed with stiff person syndrome. Her voice box and whole voice started to be affected. It started in 2007 and continued until present day. This was filmed in Boston in 2008 and they were adjusting keys etc to accommodate what was occurring with her voice. Watch the documentary that was released a few weeks ago which goes into great detail about the disease. Very sad to watch her fight to save what has been her whole life from age 5. The documentary was on Amazon Prime not sure if available in UK. It is named I Am Celine Dion. Thanks for listening

[@Hogtownboy1]

It so sad that her illness has stolen her singing voice. Her natural voice show the emotion. I dont know why they thought people wanted a pitch corrected version

[@Hogtownboy1]

@@Spo-Dee-O-Dee you don’t get it. Losing her voice is like you losing your left arm.

[@umarae27]

Thank you, Fil, for how you presented this to us. ❤

[@Elaine_Parhamovich]

I've never seen your face express indignance quite like this before. Justifiably, might I add.

[@ellie698]

Indignance I think you meant to say. I'm sure autocorrect interfered! A.I. ...... arghhh !!!!

[@Elaine_Parhamovich]

@@ellie698 Grr! Hate it when that happens! I just fixed it. Thanks for letting me know. 😊

[@ellie698]

@@Elaine_Parhamovich You're very welcome. Autocorrect often causes more problems than it solves doesn't it! 🤓😆

[@ronpam48]

If you want to analyze a master vocalist, you must listen to Lara Fabian sing “Broken Vow” or “Caruso” or “Your Not From Here”. I can guarantee no pitch correction.

[@nagagab9224]

I saw her live in 2017 (?) in Frankfurt-Germany, I stood directly in front of her- her voice is superlarge, superhigh and ultrabeautiful- a real singer

[@imho2278]

Yet

[@gigifalbs4750]

Ty ty Ty…. This 97 performance was the one that got me hooked on to Celine. I remember walking into the living room during this performance sitting down in awe till the end looking at my mother and saying ‘“who is that?!” “ I NEED her CD!” To me no other performance of this song ever came close. She always sounded flat to me. I too when singing am always sharp, so this makes perfect sense to me… Ty again.

[@kperellie]

I could feel your frustration throughout this entire video. She is absolutely one of the very best. I would love it if you could do a similar video with Pavarotti. He was also one of the greatest. He may not have had any pitch corrected recordings, but it might be fun to see how accurate he was.

[@silverclive]

Brilliant video, Fil. I feel the frustration you express about pitch correction. They should not mess with an artists vocals.

[@stevekeetertheloathlydaddy6636]

I can hear it! I can hear the robotic sounds of her voice being "adjusted!" And that's primarily because I've been watching your instructional videos for so long, for which I thank you. You're opened our ears to the travesty of pitch "correction." She has such a naturally beautiful voice, why would anyone want to mess with perfection?

[@voulafisentzidis8830]

Hi Fil You've hit the nail on the head! Celine doesn't need the distraction of auto-tune. It's actually an insult to correct someone with such capability and is why I've blankedly stopped purchasing ALL music. In my view, nothing will change until music lovers refuse to pay for this shite. Thanks for taking the time to evaluate this performance. 😊

[@charlottemoreau1957]

I'm Canadian and I can't believe this voice 😭

[@imho2278]

Mais êtes vous Quèbecois?

[@Claus-dx2qy]

Great Analysis Fil! Probably we could be getting back to buying pre-owned Vinyl Records of our favourite Artists.

[@ellie698]

Celine's voice needs no digital intervention. Ever. Her voice is incredible This correction just ruined her voice

[@lydiabentley3413]

I agree

[@teriw56]

Follow the money, who’s getting it, who’s paying it. Because it has nothing to do with her vocal abilities.

[@warrenholmes3311]

Apparently she DOES need digital intervention?

[@ellie698]

@@warrenholmes3311 Did you watch the video at all? Are you hearing impaired?

[@JohnChristopherChristoph-qr1ze]

Hello there beautiful how are you doing today? I hope you're having a great and beautiful new year, ❤🎈 may this year be brings you good health wealth and joy Amen 🙏 do you think we could be friends? @@lydiabentley3413

[@msherer260]

You should consider doing a review of Ann Murray and Celine singing together. Two completely different vocal styles and Ann Murray keeping up with that natural voice, tears guy.

[@DianeAvila-bv4fc]

If past performances continue to be pitch corrected we won’t be able to reference what a natural voice should sound like. Unfortunate for younger generations

[@Caturday123]

It’s by design and it’s awful

[@DoubleMonoLR]

I think they already can't tell, they've grown up with it being the norm. There's always comments how singers are "perfect" on videos which transparently use autotune, though there is also the phenomenom of people *wanting* the performances to be perfect when it's "their" singer (eg: objectively their worst songs are also perfect, going by comments)

[@el7284]

They already can't tell.

[@Medic99]

Love your evaluations! Keep it real and honest!

[@gr3shan]

PREACH! love it. You should try and get an interview with someone at one of the record companies and ask them to explain themselves.

[@regorsears]

Why does she sounds like her nose is blocked? I first thought it was this video... then looked at the original performance and it's the same, is that caused by the pitch correction?

[@judyrichards8365]

Wondering the same thing

[@seaborn1761]

I think it’s because she's from Quebec, and French is a bit more nasal than English. Also maybe part of her personal style.

[@pkraatz36]

Why would anyone mess with perfection? I saw her here in Canada when Beauty and the Beast just came out. Most of her music had been in French, she was breaking into the English market. She sang a cover of an Elvis song a Cappella and the whole audience was so riveted we couldn't move. We knew we'd lost her to the world

[@FineArtsMusic]

Can we see more videos on voices without autotune? Would just love to hear your analysis of natural voices and what makes them great! Maybe Sinatra!?

[@1msbucket]

Me too! So many good ones! Let's do.. 20's, no 30's. WAIT.....maybe 40's but with a few 50s. Oh shoot I don't care! Anything good!

[@vibrationalwarrior1940]

I know that a lot of artists are super talented, there's no argument there, but it is so cool what you are exposing! When people are trying to pass impossible notes and vocals off as their own, discouraging other singers because they simply can't compete. Obviously this isn't going to make a lot of fans happy, but still, it's happening and it's important for people to know.

[@dmcarp2807]

P C use is whatever production standard is at time for desired sound of the time. As you stated in earlier vids, producers' standard is the keyboard sound, which ignores vocalist's accuracy and variances for expression. Effective contrast display with side-by-side graphics.

[@poopybutt29]

Thank you so much for pointing out how live instruments can also be flat and would clash with the "corrected" voice.

[@Bolo2028]

You are spot on once again.

[@voices_vary]

You have a great point. So many singers are less concerned with pitch in their singing that the industry is moving towards more computerized voice productions. It's a shame.

[@michaelschneider603]

To the one who "fixed" Celine's voice: Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto!

[@dl7281]

The monotonous nasal quality of the pitch-corrected version is so obvious when you compare the two. Thanks for another great video!

[@Charles53412]

Another great video Fil ! Say, I was wondering if you ever did a video about Brad Delp from the band Boston? He has one of the best, if not the best voice in Rock. I mean like going from a high D to a high E and hold it for a long period of time is so amazing! He was just Incredible! I think he would make a great one to analyze. Keep On Keeping On !

[@nedaustin5690]

Education like you are providing is part of the solution Fil. Consumers have a right to know what they are buying too and need to make an issue of it. A code of performance ethics applied to music awards should take into account whether pitch adjustments are made and should be a disqualifying factor.

[@glenjones6980]

When all the slides are taken out to me it just becomes the 'yodel mix'.

[@loreleigoldman2460]

“Those words should never be in the same sentence as Celine Dion.” We saw her 13 times whilst she had her Residency at Caesar’s Palace. BEYOND OUTSTANDING! She can sing anything. Unfortunately, she’s been diagnosed with “Stiff Person Syndrome.” Spot-on, Fil!

[@Viewsonic61]

I couldn’t stop laughing at your face every time you hear the voice correction!! Hilarious 😂😂

[@robertperez3422]

It's very common for artists to use autotune in live performances. I think the heavy use of autotune on records has created an unrealistic expectation of perfection all the time, which is unnatural. I love Celine Dion, and I saw her live performance the day after her mom died, and I can say it wouldn't surprised me if she approved the use of pitch correction. There is a clip where she responds defensively about complaints of artists lipsyncing on what are supposed to "live performances." She tells the reporter that lipsync has been around for a while, and it will continue to be around for a while. She has been my top artist for 4 years on a row on Spotify, but I recognize that she has done things in the studio that are hard to replicate consistently and effectively on live performances without the the aid of technology. She generally lipssyncs the high note in "The Power of Love"; and in the case of "All By Myself", the climax is also generally lipsynced. It doesn't take away from the fact that she is a phenomenal singer. It's just that the voice, for any singer, is a very delicate instrument. Pop music demands a lot of singing habits from singers that negatively affects the longevity of the voice. Just like David Foster said if Celine couldn't hit the high note in "All By Myself" he would get Whitney Houston to do it, even after Celine said that note was not part of her range, she still pushed herself to sing the note.

[@LOL-Can]

I think it is time that performers insist on no technical manipulation of their voice written into their recording contracts.I can't think of any other way to end this travesty. Celine disappeared to be replaced by a robot voice. Excellent analysis as always. Thank you for this.

[@el7284]

Some people's careers will end. The general populace doesn't hear it, and didn't care

[@CrankCase08]

Heh. As soon as I heard "When I was young..." I instantly recognised that awful nasal sound, which is caused by excessively applied pitch correction. I found this happening to my voice when I did some experimentation with Melodyne, which allows different adjustments for each note with regard to pitch, portamento and duration.

[@kellishostall2583]

Every time I see you've dropped a new video, I've vowed to do a super chat or pay in some way for you to analyze Angelina Jordan. I've just read why you don't, and I appreciate your integrity. She is my favorite singer and as good as there is. She would never pitch correct. My hope was to help others understand how pure she is because it seems impossible sometimes, even to someone who has followed her for 10 years. Having said all that, I'm certain now that you have heard her music..do you like her music? You rock, Fil..in more ways than one. ❤😊

[@ritaggn]

I so appreciate you, Fil. Such an insightful discussion.

[@lynb2039]

If this modification was due to illness when a scheduled concert was imminent I accept it. If this was a one off mod I accept it. If this was some mechanical experimemt to test the audience' response I accept it (see: Cher: Do You Believe In Love After Love). Was this mod for the entire concert or just that song? Its weird, unsettling and I've never come across this, save for Fils channel here. I do believe that Ms. Dion is made aware of all the details pre performances and that her experience, intelligence, and talent, dictate HER decisions. Remember that Ms. Dion is a huge profit maker for any venue. She employs a slew of lawyers that dedicate to her and want to keep that salary. Reaching this level of stardom is exceptional and BIG business. The idea that Ms. Dion did not agree to or was unaware of the mechanical modificarions is without merit. ❤

[@TheDivayenta]

I’ve read that she was indeed ill with the flu that night.

[@EM2theBee]

A great voice, like a great wine, has many shades and variations and that's where the magic lies.

[@CPenner9]

I’m a huge Céline fan… and it’s actually terrible what they do to her voice on her dvd releases. Trust me all of us hardcore fans hate it. Her “A New Day” and “Taking Chances” dvd vocals are just ruined. They over process them and completely strip them of her natural vibrato and tone. She does use some prerecorded live tracks during her concerts and they even auto-tune / pitch correct those afterwards for the dvd... whereas they are natural tracks when you hear them live (however in recent years they have just been auto-tuned/pitch correct for the concert). It’s a shame… some of the worst vocal production I’ve ever heard honestly.

[@lydiabentley3413]

So correct

[@Krobra91]

thats why i prefer watching the fan recorded cam versions

[@CPenner9]

@@Krobra91 exactly!!! You can really hear the resonance and power in the room. At least the 90s releases were left natural, and then for more recent material fans have better recording devices so there’s more / better quality bootlegs. The search is always on for 90s bootlegs and audio !!

[@alexbodi5526]

@@CPenner9 Would’ve loved to hear this guy‘s reaction to that particular attempt of the final note, and the All By Myself mixed note just before it, which are so clearly pitch corrected, just to have the last B4 be one of the worst that they could’ve used. Half of this performance isn’t even from Bostin as they claim. As another fan put it, the DVD is basically a copy and paste nightmare.

[@CPenner9]

@@alexbodi5526 LOOL i know trust me 😂😅… I was really hoping to see the waveforms for the “big / high note”. I wanted to see that dead straight line and also also see what the “vibrato” looked like looool

[@DarrellWingerak]

This is fascinating. Thanks for this and your Olympic ceremony coverage of Celine.

[@lauraallen55]

Celine Dion is not my taste in music, but what a voice. This is all so sad. I've maybe mentioned before that I know a little girl who had likely not heard much in her short life that wasn't pitch corrected or auto-tuned and I showed her a song that wasn't. I tried explaining in 7 year old language that most of what she hears is people having their voice changed by machines. I told her that it used to be singers had to work hard to sound good. She wanted to hear someone who sounded good without machines and who worked for it. I showed her Bobby Hatfield's live performance of Unchained Melody. She didn't move or make a sound, transfixed through the whole thing. As soon as it was over, she said 'wow, that was so GOOD!' Then, she called her mom and asked her to put it on her playlist. Her parents told me she listens to it constantly. Young kids and teens who hear autotune and pitch correction all the time actually prefer it by some point. :( I'm doing my small part to let the youngest generation know what's happening! I promised her my record collection when I'm gone. She's promised to care for it as I have. That reminds me - as more and more time goes on, I am so glad I have the vast record collection I have - none with manipulated vocals. Or at least not fundamentally changed vocals. Maybe someday record albums like this will hold a lot of value when the day is here that no one *isn't* auto-tuned or pitch corrected. They're already relics! Keep exposing this horrible direction the industry has gone in, Fil!

[@Yesica1993]

This is wonderful!

[@lauraallen55]

Yes, thanks! Music has always meant a lot to me, so I'm happy to do a little something for at least one of the younger generation to realize that not everyone sounds mechanical!@@Yesica1993

[@BeatlesCentricUniverse]

Great video! One of your best analyses!

[@pjesf]

That made her voice sound absolutely awful! By the time she got to “young”, which is barely the 4th word, I could tell even without the software that it had been “adjusted” (aka destroyed). That’s criminal. Thanks for another great video, Fil! EDIT: I could also tell from the look on your face! If you watch yourself you’ll see what I mean 😂

[@DJ-wi9yk]

Pitch correcting Celine Dion IS offensive. I completely agree. And I'm glad you've used your platform to make such a well constructed and objective analysis.

[@danatonimovies2321]

Imagine pitch-correcting Eva Cassidys recording of Songbird ! Or Amy Winehouse singing Love is a loosing game. The horrible idea that 100 cents per halfnote actually works within a chordalsystem. Its an absolute lack of competence and deeper knowledge of the pure physics of the properties of the many attempts that predated the final conclusion for the Equal tempered system that as early as in the time of Bach was followed by an interpretation tradition. You can find all kinds of barockean instruments with a lot of extra keys e.t.c. Before tonalsystem the Lute with "MOVEABLE FRETS" was the main instrument for theoretical reasoning and composers first hand instrument. It was a long lasting discussion before the final decision was accepted. Maybe it was a good decision but everebody with ears knew that it had to be interpretated.

[@deedragriffie7983]

You have my respect for even being able to articulate yourself in such a clearly understood manner when your angst and passion are this strong!! Your love for your craft and frustration with the industry’s choices here are palpable! Thank you so much for emphasizing the importance of story telling and emoting in a piece as well as the authenticity we feel as an audience when the artist is freed 🙏🏻🩵 To limit Celine Dion’s artestry is inconceivably tragic for us all!!

[@marnaehrech1223]

Fil, your outrage (don't worry, you're keeping it suppressed but we can tell!) is well placed. It is incredibly OFFENSIVE ... Just as offensive to me personally as when they changed our musical scales over 100 years ago from the base A=432 which is in harmony w the human body, to A=440 Hz which is disharmonious to us and causes stress, even tho we're totally unaware. Unconscionable. Love ya for putting it all out there, Fil!

[@imho2278]

You need to reseaerch the reason for the frequency change, starting with the effect of cold weather on European violins. Leave the woo woo out of it.

[@andrewmcdonald6987]

As always phil.i agree with everything to do. Thanks so much. Best wishes and take good care.

[@Doppeljot]

Not a fan of Celine Dion but she didn't deserve THAT! Surely somebody must've listn't to that before releasing this version???

[@bunkynuts]

Great analysis as usual Fil. Some of these comments are hilarious. They're actually trying to kill the messenger.

[@katyapereira9894]

I can’t always hear what you show us, but this time it was so awful I jumped when I heard it. Thanks for also including the real voice so we could enjoy it, this is a very good video!

[@loraleecliff2195]

I was a working professional singer for many years in the old days, and it drives me crazy that musicians and certainly DJ types of producers have little to no knowledge of voices, especially women's voices. When it comes to pitch, what is not understood is a voice has overtones and undertones. That does not mean you are hitting a note off pitch. It involves emotional intent, how much the singer controls the vebrato on a word, how the vowels are hit, and how the consonants are formed. Listen to Sinatra, how he sang consonants. The human voice is much more complex because your body is the instrument. Auto pitch is an atrocity!!! Thank you for educating all of us about music and AI.

[@andrelglinnenbank2856]

It has probably been asked before, but looking at your lines and the pitches that are corrrected to the lines, I wonder if I misunderstood music theory. I know we have equally tempered pianos, but that is a compromise. In all music we have chords which notes by definition do not fit all on their lines, because they are harmonics. Does that not mean that if you sing another note than the key that the music is in at that moment, you should be a bit sharp or flat to sing the 'correct' note? I.e. unless you are an electronic device.

[@pcno2832]

As I read it, when doing chords or harmonies (or Phil Spector's old trick of using to bass notes forth or fifth apart to mimic a note too low to get through a small radio speaker), a perfect fourth or perfect fifth will sound best to most people if they are exactly 4/3 and 3/2 the base frequency, so it sometimes makes sense to tune guitar strings perfect fourths and fifths from each other. But if you do a scale using those notes, you have to correct the progression up to the next octave at some point , maybe following the 5 "semitones" that make a perfect fourth with the 7 "semitones" that make a perfect fifth (with 4/3 times 3/2 being 2). But if you play a tune with those notes, as opposed to chords, some of the transitions will sound off. But (1.06)**5 is close enough to 4/3 and (1.06)**7 is close enough to 3/2, that it will still sound OK with the "tempered" tuning of a piano and so given that keyboard instruments can't be re-tuned for every performance (or at least the acoustic ones couldn't), it made sense just to leave them with tempered tuning. So, could one sing or play a tune, with every semitone the 5th-root of 4/3 or the seventh-root of 3/2? I would think so, but each note up or down from the starting one would be further off, relative to anything that's evenly tuned and the octaves would no longer vary by factors of exactly 2.

[@olibertosoto5470]

Great comparison. I don't know a thing about the technicalities of music, couldn't tell you what an e sharp is if I heard it all day long. But I know what I like and that corrected version is like a sharp stick in the ear! Even the reverb in the original rubs the wrong way.

[@diannewilkerson4793]

It is criminal what was done to Celine's voice!! I do not understand this phenomenon. I was completely unaware of pitch correction until a few months ago when I started watching your analysis videos, Fil !!! To use that on a world class voice like Celine's is ridiculous. Thank you for showing this video of Celine, Fil. I know her voice well and it is a perfect illustration of how a great voice is distorted! 😡

[@farrokhnikmaram3647]

Enjoyed every moment of your analysis. 🎉