'What Types of Trauma Cause DID?' | Breaking Down Severe vs Mild Trauma Myths

[@KittyMelon3]

"Drowning is drowning, and trauma is trauma" Damn Silver, dropping the heavy truths! You always help us feel so valid and accepted, thank you

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thank you!!! Glad I could help 💕💕

[@georgerobins4110]

I remember for a long time I felt super invalid because my bullying trauma didn't feel "real enough" or "bad enough" but then one of my online System friends said "bullying is just another word for abuse" and it made me feel so much more valid -Kelly

[@Savannah22K]

Hey! I’m pretty sure I have DID. I had SEVERE self esteem problems growing caused by emotional abuse and psychological manipulation from peers, then growing up to get depression and anxiety from being alone, and more but I’ll spare the details. But the point is you ARE valid!! I am valid! We’re all valid! Trauma is trauma. I’m proud of you for sharing.

[@2amresearches]

hey, i know i'm late, but i've also been bullied (my entire childhood) and now am wondering if i have osdd. probably yes. i also felt not "traumatized enough" but at the end of the day, it messed me up, so it was traumatic and i could totally develop osdd. so yes, another bullying survivor here to say: you are valid and you are real

[@Janiyah-Tucker]

This is late but we’re also a osdd system effected my bullying!

[@HelloEmmaClare]

I read this somewhere and found it really helpful to keep in mind when questioning the severity (or lack of) of my own trauma. "It's not so much about what the trauma was, but about the fact that it was inescapable."

[@TheRingsSystem]

I can’t pin comments on mobile but when I’m eventually on my laptop that is getting a PIN wow I love that quote 💕

[@nothingmorebutasimp9086]

EXACTLY

[@chromakyte05]

Very clever analogy with the drowning in a bathtub vs drowning in a lake, where it’s drowning either way. It’s validating to hear that.

[@typosinthebrain5363]

I'm crying I really needed this. I also love that there is an osdd-1b system out there talking about their condition. I think I don't have DID but it is extremely likely I have osdd-1b. My diagnosis reevaluation starts soon and I hope I'll finally get the correct diagnosis. Lots of love from us.

[@TheRingsSystem]

💕💕 lots of love sent back :)

[@tranquil_chaos]

This is exactly how I'm feeling but I will be talking to a therapist for the first time about it tomorrow 😬

[@theverytiredbirb6735]

I feel the same. However I mentioned it to my mum, boyfriend and therapist and all dismissed the possibility. I feel stuck, really.

[@theverytiredbirb6735]

I forgot to mention I wish you luck in your journey!

[@kyrabytes563]

I always felt like my trauma wasn't enough because I never showed signs of depression or scared to the person that did that to me or anything that it should be the normal, or probably because I thought "people passed worst things" or probably because I was so young to understand the gravity of the situation. The fact that I even tried to normalize it saying "it was my family, probably is normal" or searching "is it normal this person does this to me?"

[@kiburisystem9787]

Thank you for sharing! Trauma isn’t a competition, isn’t ‘graded’ and can’t be compared, ever ❤️

[@Sieggis]

That was well said, thank you. Since I don't remember anything bad as bad as it had been - as in 'yeah, stuff happened, but can't really remember how I felt for it but I guess it must have been horrible' (not to mention that I might not even remember anything.) - it's hard for me to... validate my own state? ^^' Anyway: It's good to hear this from someone outside the brain.

[@melissagibsonart]

"i don't remember anything bad as bad it had been." I feel this so much. Often when i talk about my childhood, the parts i remember, i don't realize i'm describing something most people would consider awful until i see the look on the face of the person i'm talking to.

[@stephanietarsia8155]

Ufff same!! It toke me a while to valid my trauma whithout remember it (its weird and hard and sometimes i still dont believe but i see my bodies reaction and then i say yup......thats trauma. ...

[@Sarah-dk8je]

Yeah. Throughout my short life there has been (in the catchment period for OSSD /DID) : Nearly drowning Bullying And a hard time socially communicating at school which makes me the target for people being trash to me. I also get angry easily (you just have to b patient.) And in quarantine I've developed Anxiety Depression And possible ptsd(I think)

[@splash8412]

I always thought my trauma was never enough to develope DID or OSDD, but then again i don't remember most of my childhood- this video helped us alot. i might start watching your channel more to wait till i get therapy for a diagnosis. this validates me thinking i might be a system ALOT.

[@havendidit]

This is so mind blowing for me. I had no idea that it was more about the individual and repetition than the extremity of the trauma. I guess I've just realised that my childhood trauma is "enough" to "justify" having OSDD-1.

[@TheRingsSystem]

Yeah! Our whole conceptualization of trauma in the academics is shifting and I’m so glad it is!

[@havendidit]

@@TheRingsSystem That's so awesome! Thanks for explaining it all for us!

[@rowanb2355]

I love the way you explain things Silver, so clever! ^_^

[@TheRingsSystem]

💜

[@elzegrineviciute]

I think i have OSDD. When my first trauma occurred (I only remember 4 memories about it) my parents didn’t believe, that my mom’s mother abused me. She used to chase me (one of memories) and I was really scared of her (another one). But it took 2 years until my parents believed it was happening. Now they are supportive about everything, but we don’t talk about this experience. Whenever we talked about my mom always tried to explain her. My parents don’t know that i think i have OSDD. They don’t even know that it traumatised me.

[@TheRingsSystem]

Sending love to you, and hoping the discovery process goes smoothly ❤️

[@tiredatm3009]

Okay this might sound dramatic but I feel like your videos are saving my life. I haven't felt this down in a long time and I am so confused. You guys make me feel valid and everything just makes more sense -Luca

[@missundies]

Hope things gets better for you, we've also found a lot of comfort in these videos (:

[@hannahburke4862]

I love the trauma and drowning analogy! That's so validating! I don't have DID or OSDD, but I was diagnosed with PTSD and derealization after experiencing a traumatic event around four years ago. When my therapist first diagnosed me, I was really skeptical about it because I didn't think my trauma was bad enough to cause PTSD. I basically equated PTSD with combat PTSD that veteran's experienced - I didn't think I could have PTSD because I've never fought in a war. Looking back now, I can see how narrow my mindset was and how it left me feeling so invalid and even worse about my PTSD symptoms, like I was just a cry baby and overreacting. But trauma can come in so many different forms and trauma is subjective from person to person

[@TheRingsSystem]

Exactly! I'm so glad it resonated with you! ❤️

[@wilkobye9533]

For us there are some things that are seen as mild that have Traumatized us, while we had multiple experiences with almost downing but water and swimming is still what we seek to feel safe. I think some of it is the reactions to it. But also maybe sometimes you're just more sensitive to one thing than another. Like. I feel like anything could happen with water and the water would never end up being a trigger or bad. But sensorily overloading for example is something that so often makes us weary for such long times... Idk just sometimes brains are weird.

[@confusedghost9320]

I'm so glad I've seen this. I've always felt that my traumas [many earthquakes as a baby\toddler & my brother taking things -insults and 'play fighting' - too far] Thank you!

[@sapphicmoonlightlilith]

thank you for this. I've recently been experiencing heavy levels of dissociation, nearly constant, and I keep telling myself it has to be a "lesser disorder" because "the only trauma I went through" in childhood was emotional and verbal. Luckily enough for me, I have a psychiatrist appointment tommorow to potentially get a diagnosis of something, and I really needed this to validate me so I know whatever the diagnosis is, I'm okay.

[@thepatchworksystem2467]

So glad this topic was covered! I was trying to explain this very topic to someone this week and may actually share this video with them so they can understand this better. Trauma is so much more about the personal experience to it and not on the "severity" of the trauma itself. Thank you so much for explaining this! - Rey

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thank you!! And go for it!

[@hunnybee_]

what if you’ve recently been experiencing these kinds of things (like depersonalization/derealization), but you can’t remember anything technically traumatic that might’ve happened to you during your childhood??

[@TheRingsSystem]

This disorder exists to mask childhood trauma - we're still missing large chunks of childhood years. It's totally normal to not remember anything, and in the moment, focusing on symptoms/coping is the most important thing :)

[@hunnybee_]

The Rings System ok 🙏🏽 thank you so much

[@AmazingAroAce]

i've been thinking of writing a fic w/ a character with did/osdd and I literally got out a notebook and pen to take notes on your videos. thank you for making these!

[@TheRingsSystem]

While I appreciate the kind words, I do want to point out that the concept of being taken notes on to write up a character is uncomfortable for us. I'm happy to share resources and for you to learn from them, but please don't use our experiences as a reference for characters. Thank you!

[@drcloudy]

The drowning metaphor was so helpful :O Thank you so much for sharing that Silver!

[@TheRingsSystem]

I’m so glad it was helpful!! ❤️❤️

[@Violetsyrup]

Wow I actually broke down crying at the end. We are still struggling accepting that we are a system and this video was exactly what we needed. All of your videos have been so helpful to us. Thank you so much!!

[@Sw33t_N3ko]

Loved this video, tends to really annoy me when ppl say "why would this be traumatic to you? Get over it already" So thank you 🤗

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thank you!

[@ravengateley7677]

Basically had this conversation with my therapist recently. Still finding a psychiatrist to officially diagnose me but we are almost there.

[@TheRingsSystem]

I'm glad you're making progress :) I hope it stays that way!

[@missundies]

You have an awesome picture and system name, dreaming is one of my favourite things.

[@fancydeer]

The thing about these disorders is it's trauma that happened as CHILDREN. Think about that next time you feel like your trauma isn't "valid". Whatever your trauma was you were a literal child, you shouldn't have had trauma period. And for some the situations are compounded enough, long enough that it causes your brain to grow and develop physically differently than a typical brain. It's not about being weak or not having willpower or whatever, emotional experiences physically change our brain

[@meganwoehl5277]

Thank you. I don't have a dissociative disorder (although I have dissociated many times) but I do hold a lot of trauma. I often feel very invalidated in my trauma because "I didn't go through x". I was also raised in a household with a narcissistic step parent. He is very adamant that people need to "toughen up" and that mental illness (or even feelings) are all in your head and don't exist. As a result my brain constantly reverts back to thinking I'm faking everything I'm going through. I have significant memory loss from my highschool days because of the narcissistic abuse, and it really makes me feel crazy or like I've made it all up in my head because I can't remember all the specific events. When people ask how my stepdad abused me, I'm able to give a few examples, but on their own they don't seem like much....it's missing the context of it being a daily thing. That's why I started self harm in the first place, was so that the scars would be reminders of specific abusive events...but those scars have faded and some scars happened so close together that I can't really distinguish what event caused them, just that I was in a lot of pain. One thing that keeps me going is that I have two people in my life who remember for me. I have my childhood best friend from 1st grade who has always seen my stepdad for what he is and remembers me coming to school or going over to her house or calling her to tell her about all the things happening at home. She remembers and she is my validation. My husband is the other one. He has witnessed a lot less, but he also is able to see through my step dads charming facade. The one event that really opened his eyes was after we had moved away we came back to town for a visit. He already knew I didn't like being alone with my parents because fights don't tend to break out if there are other people around to act as buffers. But he had friends that hadn't seen him in a long time and we agreed it would be fine if he went to hang out with them for a few hours and I would hang out at the house. A couple hours on my own with them, they got super drunk and a fight broke out. I went to my bedroom to cool off and create space but then my mom comes down (she wasn't typically the one to abuse me) and starts a fight. I won't get into specifics but she was convinced I was killing myself because I had gained weight since graduating highschool. It got to the point where she grabbed my wrists, pinned me to the bed, and screamed in my face. I had to yell at her to let me go and it actually startled my step dad enough to come down and he was shocked she had put her hands on me. I had a bruise around one of my wrists after that. I texted my husband (boyfriend at the time) that I couldn't stay there and he needed to come get me. So at 11pm he pulls up, I throw both our suitcases in the car and we found a hotel for the night. I then spent the rest of the night crying on his shoulder. I think it really made him realize that this abuse happens behind closed doors and that if I am left alone I am more of a target. But when my sisters or friends or husband is around, I can usually get through an evening with them with no screaming. So those two people have made a world of difference for me to stop justifying or downplaying the abuse I went through. I haven't gone to therapy for any of it yet, mainly because I'm incapable of listing everything I went through. I almost want to bring them with me as witnesses if I ever meet with a therapist.

[@AhsetofAtum]

This is an important video. So many people need to hear this. Great job 😊

[@bluecannibaleyes]

Thanks for explaining this in such a thorough way! Sorry if I offended anyone by asking about this on an earlier video. I know trauma is a really touchy subject and I definitely wasn’t trying to invalidate any kind of trauma or ask about any specifics. I was mostly just curious as to whether or not it had to be repetitive trauma, which you definitely answered with this video. Thanks for clarifying things for those of us who were curious even though our questions may have been a bit offensive/annoying.

[@TheRingsSystem]

No offense was there! I just wanted to be extra careful. Sometimes (espec in this community, where a HUGE symptom of the disorder is thinking you’re faking it) people can read too far into other people’s responses and experiences and think that it might apply to them, and I didn’t want someone to mistakenly find your comment and think “oh no what if I’m faking it all!??” So I just answered it in private! Thank you for leaving the comment and I’m always happy to clarify things for people :) I promise if it was offensive in any way I would’ve just deleted it and not responded haha

[@bluecannibaleyes]

@The Rings System Okay, cool. Sorry I didn’t see your reply at first, but I found it now. :)

[@amunetamunra5137]

i was looking for an explanation for so long. this was very educational

[@nostxlgia.mp4185]

I really needed this, my therapist had told me the exact opposite, that I did not have trauma at all so I couldn’t be diagnosed with did or osdd.

[@theartssystem4788]

This a very good explanation to peoples questions! I have seen a lot of people ask this question! Thank you for explaining things so well!

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thank you!

[@raleighv3333]

I love how informative and supportive your videos are!

[@TheRingsSystem]

❤️

[@sarabryan9039]

A great video as always! I have reason to believe one of my close friends has did or osdd and all of your videos have helped so much! I haven't told them in case it's not safe but I have suggested seeing a professional in general as they've talked about their trauma with me. Thank you all so much

[@missundies]

What a good friend you are! ♡

[@RHxTBK]

Best way to help clear the air I think. Thank you again Silver~~

[@WeAreAlexandra]

An important and much needed video! Great job, guys!

[@danidaffodils]

1:28 This part of the video helped me so much. I wonder why I developed a dissocative disorder while someone who went through the same conditions as me did not. Thank you! -m0ss

[@GraysBlue]

im so grateful for this channel. i just found you and have already subscribed and turned on the notifications after a few videos. i’ve been invalidating myself for so long and this is such a wake up call. im actually crying, you dont understand how monumental this moment is for me. thank you, thank you, thank you.

[@TheRingsSystem]

💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕 I'm glad I could be such a help :)

[@HarleyQuinn-ib9yl]

We really needed this to feel more valid☺️thanks a lot silver🥰😊☺️

[@emiliesmith9917]

I saw your ring: are you asexual? -an asexual

[@TheRingsSystem]

Yup! :)

[@emiliesmith9917]

@@TheRingsSystem Cool!!

[@quirkyblackenby]

The Rings System that’s so cool. I’m always looking out for ace rings

[@Sarah-dk8je]

@@TheRingsSystem I thought so

[@virtualgamers9022]

Thank you again Silver! Your videos help us so much :) -Zee

[@TheRingsSystem]

💕💕

[@user-jv9sb8iu7h]

I just found your videos and I literally cannot thank yoU ENOUGH For all your insight. I've never felt so validated in my life, especially as I try to work thru this new and confusing time of my life. You are a godsend. THANK YOU 😭

[@TheRingsSystem]

Aa I'm so glad our content has such an impact!! Sending love and good vibes your way ❤️️

[@NoLOVEinFEAR333]

This is a great video- very validating and informative! thanks ya'll!

[@oliviyeves]

Exactly what I needed to start the day, your videos are absolutely life-saving. Keep it up, lots of love! ❤

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thank you ❤️❤️ I'm glad we could help so much :)

[@BeccaHill313]

this was incredibly validating, thank you so much

[@TheRingsSystem]

💙

[@hannavignolo6454]

I'd love to know what are the most common traumas for people with DID. I do not remember what happened to my system and I would like to know what to search exactly. Been avoiding it for months but I think it's time.

[@TheRingsSystem]

I don't think there's any "most common type of traumas!" It would be helpful to know what to search for, but I really don't think I have any answers. Trauma is very individual

[@onyx3797]

This channel really has been helping me. I hope y’all post some more!

[@missthaumaturgy8090]

SOMEONE SAID IT!!! Preeeaach Silver!!!!! 💕😍😁

[@TheRingsSystem]

❤️❤️💕

[@GvannaLoves]

Wow ty for posting such a great video! It helps me a ton!

[@TheRingsSystem]

💕💕

[@_.ASHE._]

I don’t have DID but i have night terrors not a lot of people know what this is but it is something that happens because of stress or trauma they way it works for me is that I wake up at night and then i black out and then i get told that I’m acting like im fully awake but im not and i do not have any memory of that event

[@TheRingsSystem]

I don't know enough about night terrors to reliably answer this, sorry!

[@Orion-fq1oq]

These videos are so good 💙 Your passion about teaching these things is do inspiring!

[@joannecameron985]

Very informative! Silver is so sweet and smart

[@MooseJ2468]

love this! -red

[@katrinasimard8260]

This video makes total sense to me. Thank you!

[@azarahwagner2749]

Thank you 🙏 Angel hugs and blessings

[@TheRingsSystem]

❤️

[@neonbeams5923]

I read that for OSDD or DID to form, the trauma has to happen between the age of 6 to 9. Is that true? I believe that I have symptoms of OSDD and I have had repeated trauma in childhood but it all began before I was 6, although it was repeated so im confused 😔

[@TheRingsSystem]

Yup! The two requirements are repeated trauma, and before ages 6-9 :)

[@neonbeams5923]

@@TheRingsSystem So could having the main trauma event before the age of 6 could still make someone develop DID/OSDD? Sorry if this is a dumb question adssfggssg

[@TheRingsSystem]

Yup! :)

[@antigiggles-7629]

I’m so glad I found this channel 🙂

[@elsewherehouse]

T.W. I appreciate this video. I have known for most of my life that something just wasn't right with me. I had never considered my condition to have any connection to trauma because I have no memory of any type of abuse. I have no scars either, not physically anyway. I hardly ever find a character that I identify with in books, shows, or movies. However, Charlie from Perks of Being a Wallflower and Will from Good Will Hunting helped me feel less alone. I have discovered the books The Body Keeps the Score and Emotionally Absent Mother , and they too, have been helpful and quite revealing. It sucks because I am fairly certain that I have Developmental Trauma Disorder from neglect that happened when I was quite young. But that 'Trauma' was from ' nothing happening '!

[@bobabubbletea7141]

I have one other voice in my head. I (since as far as I can remember) have always wanted a brother. And low and behold, the voice in my head is a boy and his name is Levi. I don't know if I have DID or if I'm just a lunatic.

[@TheRingsSystem]

Even if you don't have DID, you can hear voices and not be a lunatic :) They're just voices, and if they're helpful, then they're helpful! ❤️️

[@bobabubbletea7141]

@@TheRingsSystem aww wow I did not expect y'all to reply! Xoxo💕

[@dianeo9542]

Hi,i have been watching your channel for a while now and i love how you make things easy to understand I have trauma and i could have osdd-1b(?if I'm correct) And i have been stressed about it because i don't know if i have it or not but I'm working through it. Thanks for the information

[@TheRingsSystem]

I'm glad the videos have helped ❤️

[@patchwork1157]

This is a nice and educational video, thank you. I do have a question, could the trauma have happened after being 6-9 (Like around 9, 10 and 11). I don’t remember my childhood too much but what I do remember was all good so I’m still kinda doubting myself about this whole thing. 😅

[@TheRingsSystem]

There’s some debate on the actual boundary (some say as early as 4-5, some say as late as 10) but I think watching our video on how systems often don’t remember their trauma might be helpful!! ❤️❤️

[@patchwork1157]

The Rings System Thank you so much for the recommendation. ❤️ I’ve learned recently that even being born in a traumatic way can cause someone to have did or osdd and I find that very fascinating because my birth was...interesting to say the least.

[@Cara-y7p]

Articulate and insightful :)

[@Cheese9220]

*aaaaaand subscribed*

[@patchwork1157]

Question, could someone develop DID or OSDD without PTSD? I’ve noticed that the two seem to go hand in hand but I’m curious if it’s possible. Thanks 🙏🏻- Ico

[@TheRingsSystem]

Yes and no, because it's complicated - all of the theories surrounding the development of DID say that it comes from trauma and abuse, however, one can get misdiagnosed with DID without having the history of trauma.

[@meanderingsquirrel885]

well, there goes my last excuse

[@gojoseyes1140]

A sweetheart 💕

[@katrinamartin4453]

What If there was no trauma or neglect? Can a person still have it?

[@TheRingsSystem]

Technically no for DID/OSDD - but it’s completely possible to have no memory or no symptoms/effects from the trauma :)

[@leif-gacha7702]

can it be caused by head trauma? head injury?

[@TheRingsSystem]

It can’t be caused by the actual physical damage of a head injury - but if you have head trauma and the incident/medical care/situation in general was EMOTIONALLY traumatizing at a young enough age, then yeah it could. But it wouldn’t be from the physical injury - it would be from the resulting emotional trauma.

[@pride-4237]

Is there such thing as mild / severe DID ?

[@TheRingsSystem]

Yes kinda, but it's less "mild/severe DID" and more of "how much is your trauma affecting you right now?" Some folks' trauma affects them a lot, and some folks have periods where their trauma affects them much less.

[@Drmorganaurora]

❤️

[@TheRingsSystem]

💕

[@daniellesutherland1674]

I love this video

[@TheRingsSystem]

Thank you!