What Will the Wizards Do With Bradley Beal? | The Bill Simmons Podcast

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@jesustenes2
@jesustenes2 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, I would rather be the worst team in the nba and rebuild through the draft (like houston did after trading harden) than comitting to being a mediocre team for the next 5 years. Sign and trade for picks is the way to go.
@valthomas9786
@valthomas9786 2 жыл бұрын
What’s the wizards draft history outside of Wall and Beal?
@Howdidhenotseeme
@Howdidhenotseeme 2 жыл бұрын
If Im the Wizards im paying him and trading him next summer. He'll be a 29 all star signed long term, trade him and start the rebuild
@eulenemathis2166
@eulenemathis2166 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed! Detroit is off to a good start too
@RicardoMil0s
@RicardoMil0s 2 жыл бұрын
Beal probably (and realistically) cares only about the money and has likely given up chasing a ring as a basketball player at the current stage of his career. And nothing wrong with that, he gets paid a ton of money to play professional basketball and he's pretty damn good at it. But he's stated multiple times that he and his family love it in Washington and he wants to stay there for his family. The Wizards will likely just ride the contract out for 2 or 3 years before trading him in the future because I can't see ownership wanting to buy Beal out on that huge contract.
@loopytwxlsjr
@loopytwxlsjr 2 жыл бұрын
But does that create a Blake Griffin-like scenario where the team who trades for him needs to buy him out eventually? I like to think front offices have gotten more wise (excluding the Knicks’s)
@RicardoMil0s
@RicardoMil0s 2 жыл бұрын
@@loopytwxlsjr Wizards ownership has a history of being cheap. They would rather shed salary via trade than buy out a contract. Look at Davis Bertans and his contract that the Wizards gave him. Signed a 5-yr/$80 million contract in 2020, let him stay on the team for ~2 years, then traded him to Dallas rather than buying him out. Same scenario with John Wall.
@gators9570
@gators9570 2 жыл бұрын
He apparently gave up as soon as he got to the league… like they were saying though, it would be surprising but it wouldn’t be entirely crazy if they just let him walk. If they pay him that contract they’re just kicking a rebuild down the road.
@loopytwxlsjr
@loopytwxlsjr 2 жыл бұрын
@@RicardoMil0s I think teams are seeing Wall and Westbrook and may be afraid to trade for these max contracts down the line. Building through the draft seems to be the new craze. So maybe the wizards can’t find a trade partner who give me anything back, and might have to send out a pick to get rid of a Beal past his prime
@t4d0W
@t4d0W 2 жыл бұрын
Also makes sense since Beal gets the most money deal wise signing with the Wizards if he wants the extra year. As long as Beal proves he can stay healthy the next 2 seasons I think his value will be solid enough to move. Especially when some rookies finally get paid their big extensions so teams have trade fodder to throw for paid talents like Beal.
@revan3841
@revan3841 2 жыл бұрын
Simmons is still using that butter filter.
@christophermillikan5257
@christophermillikan5257 2 жыл бұрын
No way Atlanta is going to give up Collins, Bogdanovic, and Okongwu for Beal
@jmorley72
@jmorley72 2 жыл бұрын
Collins and Bogdanovic maybe, but Atlanta loves Okongwu, and they would never include OO in a deal for Beal.
@joshuasilverman8699
@joshuasilverman8699 2 жыл бұрын
I thought the exact same thing
@bwilliams6675
@bwilliams6675 2 жыл бұрын
Bill was so on point. Think about players who recently got the supermax like Jokic. Nobody with any basketball sense would pay Beal the same as Jokic.
@williammckay6273
@williammckay6273 2 жыл бұрын
All dependent on the team. If I was the Cavs I would give Beal the max. You can’t recruit FAs anyway and his scoring punch would pair nicely with Garlands creation. And you have faith your defense will hold with Mobley and Allen.
@chrisg2214
@chrisg2214 2 жыл бұрын
Would have to be a sign and trade
@davidwhite890
@davidwhite890 2 жыл бұрын
Just resign the younger Sexton for less money when he does 90% of what Beal does.
@WheresWaldo05
@WheresWaldo05 2 жыл бұрын
Sexton, Markenan, Okoro and 2 firsts for Beal. Garland, Beal, Lavert, Mobley, Allen Love, Agbaji, Osman, Stevens, Rondo
@jasonl7937
@jasonl7937 2 жыл бұрын
As a cavs fan trading for Beal would be terrible. I would rather roll with what we have then overpay.
@flatbushzombie4759
@flatbushzombie4759 2 жыл бұрын
Beal would be a great number 2 for Doncic
@chuckhauser6336
@chuckhauser6336 2 жыл бұрын
Beal gonna ball with KP
@flatbushzombie4759
@flatbushzombie4759 2 жыл бұрын
@@chuckhauser6336 with who
@SSJRome
@SSJRome 2 жыл бұрын
Pay him and remain mediocre for another 5 years lol 😂
@LukaLegend77
@LukaLegend77 2 жыл бұрын
him on the pistons would probably be an improvement lol
@roadrunner7441
@roadrunner7441 2 жыл бұрын
It's alot of Beal haters that obviously don't watch Wizards games
@Smart-Towel-RG-400
@Smart-Towel-RG-400 2 жыл бұрын
Paying a guy 30% of the cap is insane the supermax should be the exception not the rule it should be for guys like Giannis that puts buts in the seats and sells truck loads of jersey then the contract pays for itself you should minimum get 12 play off series out of 5 year supermax like 2/3 series year but hopefully more with a few championships
@kobejete2796
@kobejete2796 2 жыл бұрын
3 types of star players in today's nba. The divas like lebron, harden, kyrie, simmons, westbrook, etc. The ones who to a fault of their own find themselves in purgatory like lillard, beal, mitchell. The put your head down and just win like giannis, jokic, curry, etc.
@LiamborninDC
@LiamborninDC 2 жыл бұрын
The problem I have with paying Beal is that he doesn't want to play PG when the team has starting caliber and depth at every other position but the point. If he isn't willing to play the point than I'd rather sign and trade him for pieces or an expiring contract with picks and pay Kuzma.
@jaymills4995
@jaymills4995 2 жыл бұрын
He's willing to play the point they need to make that move asap
@AA-gi6ip
@AA-gi6ip 2 жыл бұрын
Beal is not a pg, he neither has the handles nor is he a playmaker
@joshuapearce7658
@joshuapearce7658 2 жыл бұрын
Immagine if Washington pull the fast one. Beal lots out and then go nope. And pivot hard at another player with the cap space
@newagestudios408
@newagestudios408 2 жыл бұрын
Washington gonna be stuck in this same position forever. Beal is a nice player but he’s not a franchise guy, he’s probably like the 3rd option on a championship team.
@yourebreakingmyballs4787
@yourebreakingmyballs4787 2 жыл бұрын
Bill is on point in this one. If only Washington was smart enough to do a sign and trade instead of giving Beal every penny possible
@GianCRO9597
@GianCRO9597 2 жыл бұрын
3:12 the problem is why is this allowed? Beal is a good player but he's not worth 250M.
@tfizzle56
@tfizzle56 2 жыл бұрын
These wall beal westbrook contracts are respect contracts not business contracts
@t4d0W
@t4d0W 2 жыл бұрын
Especially knowing they get their most $/years signing with the home town. If anything Presti understood the price of doing business and had respect for Westbrook and shipped him out to a playoff contender (Rockets) after making the deal. I think Wizards can do the same as long as Beal does his job not tanking his value the next 2 years while the Wizards send him out to a greener pasture.
@marcharter839
@marcharter839 2 жыл бұрын
Am I crazy, I think Beal is a max guy.
@Dushawn21
@Dushawn21 2 жыл бұрын
there could still be a kyrie trade Lakers get Kyrie Irving Nets Get Bradley Beal Wizards get Westbrook, Phillys 2023 1st rd pick and the lakers 2026 First rd pick
@peterblacksmith3817
@peterblacksmith3817 2 жыл бұрын
of course the discussion morphs into how crazy it was that the Lakers actually traded all those assets for Russ. LMAO ill just put this gun in my mouth now...
@mikepetitti
@mikepetitti 2 жыл бұрын
Let him walk - so what? At this point, they should strip it down to the metal and start over. He's a nice player, but doesn't bring in fans and won't be a cornerstone for a winner. Even at half that price, it's still a bad deal for the Wizards.
@johncapo2843
@johncapo2843 2 жыл бұрын
# SIGN HIM remain average / below average
@micahclawrence
@micahclawrence 2 жыл бұрын
They’ll pay him to much and then struggle to trade him
@luke8838
@luke8838 2 жыл бұрын
Beal clearly doesn’t want to win so who wants a guy like that given his price
@jacobmiller6341
@jacobmiller6341 2 жыл бұрын
Tommy Sheppard is beyond a trainwreck. He's turned the Wizards into very possibly the worst franchise in the NBA. No young assets. Terrible drafts. Terrible contracts
@rodaxel7165
@rodaxel7165 2 жыл бұрын
Westbrook and picks to Washington. Sign and trade. Beal to Brooklyn. Irving to the Lakers. Wizards ain't winning anything. Solves the other teams problems.
@Joes35
@Joes35 2 жыл бұрын
Lol why would Washington do that.
@catman-du8927
@catman-du8927 2 жыл бұрын
Do either of those teams have picks to trade?
@gaborkiss650
@gaborkiss650 2 жыл бұрын
@@colezee7640 In this trade Irving is signing a max sign & trade.
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 2 жыл бұрын
@@colezee7640 I assume he's implying that these would all be sign and trades. Not sure why Washington would do this unless the picks were pretty good, and I'm not sure Brooklyn and the Lakers would do that.
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 2 жыл бұрын
@@catman-du8927 Lakers have their own 1st in 2027, Brooklyn has some 76ers picks from the Harden deal. It's technically possible, really would come down to Washington wanting to tank.
@bigboner23
@bigboner23 2 жыл бұрын
Washington the charity organization of the nba
@1will2kill
@1will2kill 2 жыл бұрын
You won't win by giving him super max $250m... Offer him 5yr $200m, $40m/yr
@EbolaMuffins
@EbolaMuffins 2 жыл бұрын
This feels like CJ McCollum in that you have an obviously talented offensively gifted almost 30 year old and your gonna pay him a lot of money to not win championships. Then you realize that scoring buckets shouldn't cost that much if your not gonna win that much and if you pay him max your just doing it to put fans in the seats.
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 2 жыл бұрын
CJ makes a lot, but not insane money like Beal would make. He's on a 3 year, 100M deal, for 33.3M a year on average. Beal is going to get 248M, he'll average 49.6M! Assuming he gets that deal, he'll be making 48% more than CJ and that's before you realize that CJ is only on a 3 year deal so at least it's something you can deal with in the short term. Beal making it onto that _one_ 3rd team All-NBA is going to cripple the Wizards for years.
@jayjonah83
@jayjonah83 2 жыл бұрын
is it really putting fans in the seats though
@valthomas9786
@valthomas9786 2 жыл бұрын
Putting fans in the seats is a legitimate reason. This is ENTERTAINMENT let’s remember. Most teams are years away from finals contention. The wizards arent close to competing for a titlte. I wanna win but i have to recognize that this is a business and had multiple priorities.
@him4882
@him4882 2 жыл бұрын
Beal is way better than cj
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 2 жыл бұрын
@@him4882 not really, BB-Ref has a comparison tool, it’s actually pretty shocking how similar they are in value, even when you take into consideration Beals extra year. Also remember that Beal will make 48% more than CJ if he signs that deal. Even if Beal is better, he’s not _that_ much better.
@coogallypuff
@coogallypuff 2 жыл бұрын
Seems eerily similar to Kemba Walker in Charlotte. A 29 y/o coming off three All-Star seasons on bad teams who wanted a Supermax. Jordan said no and had to trade him. And he almost immediately turned into a train wreck who’s been on three teams in four years. Charlotte didn’t get better because of the trade, but at least they didn’t owe $220 million to, what would turn out to be, an injury prone point guard.
@gators9570
@gators9570 2 жыл бұрын
Similar but Beal has less struggles with size so he actually would be a huge help to contenders. The price tag is just ridiculous though
@plutobaby9996
@plutobaby9996 2 жыл бұрын
Great point but I think Beal is a safer bet
@northside4767
@northside4767 2 жыл бұрын
@@plutobaby9996 No one predicted that Kemba’s knees would turn to dust. He looked great until he didn’t.
@Fayn757
@Fayn757 2 жыл бұрын
He was never on Beals level , stop it .
@jamesh7469
@jamesh7469 2 жыл бұрын
I think this is a fair comparison, though if I was forecasting into the future I would say Beal holds up better due to his size and shooting ability. Kemba is more comparable to someone like IT as a small guard who relies heavily on his explosiveness to get his shots and fell off hard after losing a step. I think Beal has some more room for error as he ages and loses athleticism
@Fayn757
@Fayn757 2 жыл бұрын
He’s 29, beautiful wife , and going to make $250M to play basketball. He wins !!
@Chrisicola
@Chrisicola 2 жыл бұрын
Supermax deals are often team killers. They take such a huge amount of money out of the cap to build a quality roster around. When you got guys that are mid 30's making 45-50 million a year (Harden, Lillard, etc) when their best days are behind them- it just hurts teams that thought they didn't have any other choice, but to pay, or put themselves into that position of being leveraged.
@Wick9876
@Wick9876 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see a CBA change such that after, say, 8-10 years on the same team players don't count (or count half...) towards the cap. Let the fans keep older face of the franchise players without gutting the team. Continuity also results in better basketball.
@davethefunyunnight9053
@davethefunyunnight9053 2 жыл бұрын
Wizards are already dead though.
@Chrisicola
@Chrisicola 2 жыл бұрын
@@Wick9876 Agreed.
@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope
@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope 2 жыл бұрын
Facts. Unforeseen consequences of the last CBA deal. Small market teams have zero option whatsoever than to sign him to the super max
@blue-pi2kt
@blue-pi2kt 2 жыл бұрын
@@sittinonthegodamcornerdoindope Small markets can't bitch about needing a supermax to retain talent and then winge when players demand a supermax or they won't stay. No NBA team is losing money. It's not an excuse, pick a philosophy and deliver on it.
@turneryoung905
@turneryoung905 2 жыл бұрын
Evan Turner 4years $75M and averaged 0.8 ppg in the playoffs during the Trail Blazers run to the WCF. It was so fuckin brutal.
@1will2kill
@1will2kill 2 жыл бұрын
Tradeable
@marcusmosely8154
@marcusmosely8154 2 жыл бұрын
Always blows my mind how Rusillo looks like he doesn't want to be here but at the same time I know there is no other place he would rather be right now haha
@bb2757
@bb2757 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a wizards fan, and a while ago when these rumors about beal leaving came up, I was desperate for us to keep him. But now looking at what happened over the last two seasons, and how litttle impact he had, and how he wasn't even able to play well with dinwiddie despite the great start we had to the season, it's time to let him go, it just doesn't make sense to pay him that type of money if its not really leading to wins
@stevenzemaitis1513
@stevenzemaitis1513 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe you guys could send him to Philly for Maxey + Harris? Would help Philly compete and the Wizards would get a young stud and an expiring
@brustifiandomi5067
@brustifiandomi5067 2 жыл бұрын
Me too I am a wizards fan, I also believe Bradley Beal is over rated....Beal will not take the Wizards to the championship. With his massive contract, it will limit the Wizards financially to build a competitive team. Trade him, get a couple of young players with high ceiling and win in the future because for sure Beal wont bring the championship to DC
@paulrobinson2999
@paulrobinson2999 2 жыл бұрын
I totally agree they should just let him go what you see is what you get with Beal. My thing is do he wants to go down as a player that never got a championship or even make it to the finals smh.
@scottburlington6645
@scottburlington6645 2 жыл бұрын
Bill casually laying the groundwork for a Beal to the celtics deal
@jhmoxl
@jhmoxl 2 жыл бұрын
That has to be part of the analysis. The Westbrook and say Joe Johnson contract were bad contracts but they turned out pretty well for both teams that signed them. Both got a couple of years of good play on the deal and then spun it into a trade for positive assets. Even the Washington last year was able to make a good trade to get off the Westbrook deal so it was only a bad deal for the Rockets and the Lakers. For the Thunder and the Wizards the Westbrook contract was fine.
@jms1263
@jms1263 2 жыл бұрын
Yes but if that depreciation starts to feel predictable then it will be harder to model the same deal because other teams will be more aware and sensitive to holding the flaming turd of a contract.
@jamesstanfield7692
@jamesstanfield7692 2 жыл бұрын
Beal is so unserious about winning
@marcuswilson2818
@marcuswilson2818 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve wanted them to trade beal for years. I just want them to start over and rebuild. Being the 10th seed is way worse than being the worse team. At least when you’re the worse you have a chance to get a generational player. Beal is cool but he’s not that guy.
@aidanmeadows6931
@aidanmeadows6931 2 жыл бұрын
pleaseee washington bottom out and stop going 40-42 and picking B- players with the 10 pick
@stephenb5771
@stephenb5771 2 жыл бұрын
Potter got 100 million dollars deal too! That wasn’t a good deal either!
@faisalamalo3695
@faisalamalo3695 2 жыл бұрын
The Nets, Kings, and Jazz were all going to offer Porter that contract. Wizards matched to retain an asset but unfortunately Ernie Grunfeld mismanaged that situation as he did many situations..
@mirzapa
@mirzapa 2 жыл бұрын
That Parsons money was ridiculous. Probably the worst contract ever.
@joe5333
@joe5333 2 жыл бұрын
Bill's 100% right on the S&T. I think Charlotte could be another option -- they could probably get Rozier/Oubre/PJ. DEN could be an option, maybe Gordon/Barton/Bones and picks. Could probably get Randle/Fournier and a pick from NY. Cowherd's mentioned Middleton and picks from MIL and I think that'd be better for both teams, too. Keeping Beal at this stage is a dead end.
@javinc1
@javinc1 2 жыл бұрын
His S&T made so much sense
@shadow_realm47
@shadow_realm47 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah they need to turn Beal into a cheaper contract / a player on the same tier or lower. Why not Try to get Brunson and a trade exception. Or send him to San Antonio for Dejonte.
@darrellhardie4873
@darrellhardie4873 2 жыл бұрын
I disagree and I can't buy your argument. Bradley is a much better player than you give him credit for. Tommy got a new big deal and the front office staff last year and did not make the playoff. Bradley has been loyal to the team and a very good player that deserves the money that he's asking for that's what the NBA pays guys. Tommy said they were buying around him. Pay that man. The other players that your name are trash they won't move the needle and won't get you to the playoffs.
@chrisg2214
@chrisg2214 2 жыл бұрын
They probably have to re-sign him and get pics in a trade. Can you just let them walk? I’m a wizard fan and last year he was terrible. I don’t know if he was just injured or what, but his points per game dropped and he was sloppy… Like a turnover machine. If you watched any of the wizards games you could see he was struggling.
@IdeaAgeConsulting
@IdeaAgeConsulting 2 жыл бұрын
I never really figured out what was wrong with him last year. Hope it isn't the beginning of a career slide for him. He's 29. It looked off.
@kevincramer2683
@kevincramer2683 2 жыл бұрын
Beal on a supermax would not be one of the worst contracts in the league. Duncan Robinson was a DNP the entire playoffs. Sounds like a Celtics fan that wants to try and tank his value
@turzyn40
@turzyn40 2 жыл бұрын
He scored like 20 points per game last season. He's going down hill. So imagine beal 4 years from now on a max contract
@kevincramer2683
@kevincramer2683 2 жыл бұрын
@@turzyn40 Dont wanna hear it Luka, Hes 29 literally today. That puts him at 33 in 4 years. Plenty of productive 33 year olds in the league
@turzyn40
@turzyn40 2 жыл бұрын
@@kevincramer2683 not on a supermax contract
@ec2240
@ec2240 2 жыл бұрын
Beal is the most intriguing FA to me. Well put about how he could be viewed as over payed once he gets the bag. The trade scenario’s though could really put some teams over the top. Toronto would be the most interesting. I think contract wise there is a way for them to trade anunoby, picks, and throw away contracts for Him while keeping Van Vleet, Barnes, and Siakim. If I’m not mistaken, Toronto is in a very similar situation as the pre-KD Warriors since they built from the ground up with there main 3 do they can afford a max contract if they commit to going into the luxury with Barnes years later.
@sydguitar99
@sydguitar99 2 жыл бұрын
They should trade him for some younger talent or trade picks. He's not a franchise changing player and he never was.
@maxhypolite5388
@maxhypolite5388 2 жыл бұрын
Washington best option sign and trade Beal to the Warriors, Spurs, Mavs, Raptors, Kings (maybe), Knicks or Grizzlies.
@jimmyshi03
@jimmyshi03 2 жыл бұрын
Felt odd that we never heard Kenna’s name in this discussion. The Hornets don’t often get stuff right, but they took their lumps for that and ultimately nailed that decision.
@micahclawrence
@micahclawrence 2 жыл бұрын
And promptly paid Gordon Hayward
@jimmyshi03
@jimmyshi03 2 жыл бұрын
@@micahclawrence thus the don’t often get stuff right bit.
@banditonehundred
@banditonehundred 2 жыл бұрын
The right time trade him was two years ago when the team wasn’t going anywhere and Bradley was the leading scorer in the NBA. Hornets made the same mistake with Kemba, but atleast they didn’t double down on the mistake and give him a max contract
@Zachary_Whear
@Zachary_Whear 2 жыл бұрын
I don't see how they can keep Beal in the long run and build a championship team. A sign and trade while his value is high seems like the obvious choice.
@kmacadaeg7
@kmacadaeg7 2 жыл бұрын
The Warshington Wizards need to blow it up. It’s time for another painful rebuild.
@skywalker2759
@skywalker2759 2 жыл бұрын
My whole thing is if you don’t pay him then where will you be is it any different then if you let him walk for nothing or trade him?
@richarddebow5090
@richarddebow5090 2 жыл бұрын
Your ENTIRE first 2 minutes, if it wasn't for your use of the name Bradley Beal, I would ABSOLUTELY think you were talking about Zach Lavine. Im waiting to see if the Bulls fall for it. This is EXACTLY what I'm saying about Lavine, and I'm a PARIAH among Bulls fans for saying it. It would soon be one of the worst contracts in the league. The best thing they could do is offer him 4 for $175 million, and if he demands a trade, he is the most valuable trade piece the Bulls have. 0-16 against the top 3 in both conferences, all season? This isn't about his injury. He's just like Beal.
@kiLLinEmSoFTly
@kiLLinEmSoFTly 2 жыл бұрын
Brad seem like an athlete that just wanna hoop, get a few (individual) accolades (all stars, scoring titles, 2-3rd team nba), and make THE MOST MONEY possible. Helluva talent...can't really say he's a 'winner'...irony (being an NBA Millionaire is already winning lol) I won't forget him and John's early years...they were actually pretty nice.
@taiwanfocus4385
@taiwanfocus4385 2 жыл бұрын
I think NBA should change the rule. Someone who was selected to 3rd team All-NBA only once shouldn't be eligible for the super max! Once he is eligible, it is tough for the Wizards not to give it to him without affecting the player-team relationship (since the player would think he is "entitled" to it by NBA rules). But it is insane to say that Beal is on the same level as other super max players (e.g., Curry and the likes).
@maximusaurelius9906
@maximusaurelius9906 2 жыл бұрын
Why can't the Wizards trade Kristapz Porzingis and Kyle Kuzma for Kevin Durant? Throw in some picks and maybe Will Barton and maybe the Wizards also get Seth Curry.
@jaycepero8069
@jaycepero8069 2 жыл бұрын
The Howard deal is misrepresented here. He actually signed that deal with Miami, who was then going to resign Zo after, so they could exceed the cap, which is done all the time. The problem was Zo went on ESPN and told them he already had agreed to to terms with the Heat before the signed Howard. Wizards owner Abe Pollin lost it, went to Stern, who voided the deal, fined the Heat money and stripped them of a 1st rd pick for “attempting to circumvent the salary cap.” Howard would have fit in great with the Heat, so they were willing to overpay him if it meant they could challenge the Bulls. So it wasn’t so much a bad deal as it was a case of an owner not wanting to lose an asset. Yeah that last part has racial implications ala Dan Gilbert and King James, but that’s how it was back then. Now the players have all the power, so Beal will get his money and then leave in a year or two.
@GuavaConQueso
@GuavaConQueso 2 жыл бұрын
the pistons have a better roster than washington.
@DB-cg4vs
@DB-cg4vs 2 жыл бұрын
Didnt they just trade grant?
@GuavaConQueso
@GuavaConQueso 2 жыл бұрын
@@DB-cg4vs yea... kuzma, porzingis, hachimura or cunningham, ivey, bey and duren who you rather play with for the next four to five years?
@chemicalhap
@chemicalhap 2 жыл бұрын
Fans are so deluded. Beal is not worth any of the trades fans on a whole bunch of teams have been offering. But hey...if the Wizards smartly accept...more power to them. But heh that's why fans are fans and the professionals utterly ignore them. Now if media would stop giving oxygen to some of these stupid trade scenarios.
@mazzb305
@mazzb305 2 жыл бұрын
I want Beal on the Heat, but damn I don’t want them to give him the max. We’re already stuck with a bad Lowry contract.
@Smart-Towel-RG-400
@Smart-Towel-RG-400 2 жыл бұрын
If they were to get him Lowry would probably be the man salary filler to get it done
@shadow_realm47
@shadow_realm47 2 жыл бұрын
Lowry Oladipo and Duncan for Beal?
@CD-gk9ix
@CD-gk9ix 2 жыл бұрын
Trade Beal… we know how this turns out. Get some picks, and start over
@kukublof5057
@kukublof5057 2 жыл бұрын
let him go for free, he doesn't have max contract value ,same thing as Kyrie case, just more friendly (but way underachieving)
@turzyn40
@turzyn40 2 жыл бұрын
Why not trade beal now get picks and start the rebuild process now rather than waiting 5 years being a mediocre team and doing a rebuild anyway but without the beal picks you would have gotten now. You get a chance to be very good in 5 years after rebuilding or in 10 if you don't trade beal now
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 2 жыл бұрын
This is what the should do, but is there a deal out there even if they were willing to do it? Who is trading the farm for Beal?
@burymeinakobebryantnumber8598
@burymeinakobebryantnumber8598 2 жыл бұрын
Ain’t gonna lie that ray allen comparison was spot on because he was jus waisting his prime in Seattle
@dreadsirius9174
@dreadsirius9174 2 жыл бұрын
The Wizards should have looked to trade Beal last year. He is not worth the super max.
@deanwinchester6654
@deanwinchester6654 2 жыл бұрын
Should of traded Beal a few years ago, could of got some good stuff back.
@Shotter
@Shotter 2 жыл бұрын
You can't have it both ways. If you have a salary cap, a salary floor, and a max salary, all that money has to go somewhere. There aren't 30 NBA guys worth $45M a year, but there are 30 teams with designated player slots. So what do you do? Personally, I think they should keep the salary cap, but get rid of the max salary. Let's do it like movies. The super duper star can get closer to true market value and then the role players figure it out (e.g., Lebron has been underpaid for years). Ultimately I don't mind Beal getting his money because I'd rather he get it than the team owners. It's not like ticket and merch prices are going to go down if they pay the players less.
@shobowale101
@shobowale101 2 жыл бұрын
Yup and if they can pay players 45m then you can imagine what the owners are getting
@eulenemathis2166
@eulenemathis2166 2 жыл бұрын
Beal, Thomas and 1st rnd pic for booker
@Bulls1999
@Bulls1999 2 жыл бұрын
Sign and trade him; Beal is at best Klay level with extra FGAs . It is absolutely ridiculous to pay Beal max, plus he is becoming injury prone too… no way!
@fpradom
@fpradom 2 жыл бұрын
The most important part is that they have no competitors on the table
@Theinsideoutsider
@Theinsideoutsider 2 жыл бұрын
All facts Bill. I am all for players making money but if I'm taking an owners perspective not paying Beal $250 someone's gonna have to start the you don't get that unless youre no question top 10 player..
@flibbidyx2
@flibbidyx2 2 жыл бұрын
If the Wizards had a roster that could contend, paying Beal to keep that contender status going might make sense. But without a path to contention, paying him a bunch of money doesn't seem to be the way to go. If I was the Wizards, I'd probably call him and his agent in and sit them down to discuss moves for the future, including seeking potential sign-and-trade scenarios. Tell him you want to do right by him, but you're probably heading for a rebuild and would like to work on sending him to a good situation while giving your team some flexibility.
@shepardkings
@shepardkings 2 жыл бұрын
Dropped off🤦🏾 his ppg is second best behind Giannis the past 3 yrs wtf is Simmons talking about
@newagestudios408
@newagestudios408 2 жыл бұрын
Beal should take this opportunity to try and find another team before his “prime” years are over, that 250 million dollar contract gonna be hell in a couple of years
@coachcaseyhill2890
@coachcaseyhill2890 2 жыл бұрын
Listened on Spotify, just came here to see the draymond and through the wire fans come to spread hate. Turned out to be exactly what I expected.
@KobaniacMinded
@KobaniacMinded 2 жыл бұрын
I want to see him and jokic imagine how easy buckets would get for him with joker setting him up out of double teams in the post trade murray or mpj amd whatever to get him
@turk3sh
@turk3sh 2 жыл бұрын
We should go back to paying them early rookie contracts like the NFL depending by draft position.
@drew2nice83
@drew2nice83 2 жыл бұрын
Fees like Allan Houston. I’d hope to see Beal with a Portland or Denver and Was with a young stud
@coreyeatmon5101
@coreyeatmon5101 2 жыл бұрын
He'd be a great warrior. A better poole.
@newagestudios408
@newagestudios408 2 жыл бұрын
Beal is basically the east coast CJ McCollum, really nice guy that puts up nice numbers but isn’t that franchise guy. I’m not sure he’s worth the super max contract, he hasn’t done anything in this league in 10 years but 3 all star appearances.
@JackOBee29
@JackOBee29 2 жыл бұрын
Otto porter rule
@Gillz34
@Gillz34 2 жыл бұрын
Simmons is right would rather have okungwu and bogdan over Beal
@Andrew-dj1wd
@Andrew-dj1wd 2 жыл бұрын
30 New Rookies were just Drafted that are better than Bradly Beal
@CommonNotCommon24-7
@CommonNotCommon24-7 2 жыл бұрын
Beal going down in NBA History as the richest loser EVER
@mca217
@mca217 2 жыл бұрын
I wish Beal would leave the Wizards and team up with Embiid. I know that's it's not that simple but I think that pair could make the 76ers a legit title contender
@eulenemathis2166
@eulenemathis2166 2 жыл бұрын
Let him beal and Thomas come to Phoenix for ayton, crowder, payne and a1st rnd
@xAmirKDx
@xAmirKDx 2 жыл бұрын
Celtics should've took that Evan Fournier deal
@gaborkiss650
@gaborkiss650 2 жыл бұрын
Murray - Beal sounds like a fun backcourt.
@K81Patel
@K81Patel 2 жыл бұрын
They'll trade him to a garbage team in 3 years and he'll have to take a buyout in the last year and sign with a contender - there's templates for this now. Please see Blake Griffen, John Wall (current), LaMarcus Aldridge, Goran Dragic (okay, obv. Not a star, but you see the pattern of behavior here)
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 2 жыл бұрын
The difference here is Griffin, Wall, Aldridge and Dragic were complete shadows of their former selves by the time they took the buyouts (assuming Wall takes one this year). I think Beal is overrated and I wouldn't pay him the money, but he has a heck of a lot more in the tank than any of those guys you list.
@K81Patel
@K81Patel 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewshandle Completely agree Beal has a lot more in the tank NOW. But in 3-4 years, when his contract is $47-49M per year, what will he have? He'll be traded for parts on the dollar and then take the buyout. Since posting my comment, it's being reported that Wall is taking a buyout and will sign with the Clippers. The template is here and working beautifully.
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 2 жыл бұрын
@@K81Patel I think Beal in 3 years will still be a lot more valuable than a Washed Black Griffin...but I think the player Beal is today isn't worth 49M let alone 3 years from now, so it's a moot point. I wouldn't sign Beal to a "regular" Max, let alone the Supermax.
@michaelsledge3904
@michaelsledge3904 2 жыл бұрын
Beal is smart. He will demand a trade in 2 yrs
@dangerfeild4Life
@dangerfeild4Life 2 жыл бұрын
Kings primary owner Vivek really wants a play-in
@williamfields8631
@williamfields8631 2 жыл бұрын
Most logical but how with so many wings or bigs with Harrison,Holmes etc
@mattwilliams7454
@mattwilliams7454 2 жыл бұрын
Westbrook WAS a top 10 guy though. How about just flat out, sometimes it ruins your franchise no matter how good the player is.
@tharpporter
@tharpporter 2 жыл бұрын
Y’all need to stop pocket watching and hating on business! He’s worth every penny to whoever pays him! Y’all not worth what y’all get paid but it’s no podcast for that!
@RWor1d
@RWor1d 2 жыл бұрын
Literally part of their job… and you helping them get paid 😂😭
@davidosullivan4073
@davidosullivan4073 2 жыл бұрын
Spend a little less time reading KD and Kyries twitter
@coachcaseyhill2890
@coachcaseyhill2890 2 жыл бұрын
“New media” fan. Eat chalk weirdo.
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 2 жыл бұрын
They're discussing what pennies someone should be willing to pay him, I mean Bill even very clearly said that he doesn't begrudge Beal if he gets the 248M offer and takes it, the debate is around whether that is a good move by the Wizards or not. Beal's already earned 178M in his career and is pretty much guaranteed another 300M regardless if he signs this deal or not, so let's not feel too bad for Brad for discussing his contract.
@jackbombay1423
@jackbombay1423 2 жыл бұрын
If a player wants to join another mega star in another team it´s wrong, but if he stays with the franchise that drafted him is also wrong. I´m sick of this type of narrative. I love Beal staying his whole career with the Wizards and I hope this becomes and trend. Kudos to Beal, Lillard and Antetokoumpo. I hope the same for Jokic, Doncic and Young.
@dorianj74
@dorianj74 2 жыл бұрын
There's a difference between staying out of loyalty and staying because that's the biggest contract. Beal seems to want to re-sign for strictly financial reasons. I'm not knocking it, I just see it for what it is.
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 2 жыл бұрын
If this is how you read it, you weren't really listening. The question is, is a player like Beal who is maybe the 30th best player in the league worth 49.6M a year when the cap is 122M. That is what they were discussing, not loyalty or building super teams, it's what happens if the Wizards give Beal the Max.
@dorianj74
@dorianj74 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewshandle I'm responding to the post, not the video.
@andrewshandle
@andrewshandle 2 жыл бұрын
@@dorianj74 I wasn't replying to you, I was saying Jack wasn't paying attention. ;)
@jackbombay1423
@jackbombay1423 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewshandle The problem with the Wizards is not spending 50M on Beal (your ranking is highly stupid) it´s what they have drafted or signed to surround him over the years (and the huge bad luck with Wall injuries). And I posted before watching the video, that I still haven´t seen.
@brycewilliams616
@brycewilliams616 2 жыл бұрын
First
@loyaltyh1m102
@loyaltyh1m102 2 жыл бұрын
Beal to the 76ers for Tobias Harris and picks
@AskHasani
@AskHasani 2 жыл бұрын
Thats a GREAT idea
@Rebel-eq7ul
@Rebel-eq7ul 2 жыл бұрын
Still wouldn’t beat the Bucks or Celtics hahah and then no more picks for awhile hahahaha
@Joes35
@Joes35 2 жыл бұрын
Lol not a chance they get Beal for that. Maxey and Harris at least. Nobody wants the 76ers picks
@ericsmusic5927
@ericsmusic5927 2 жыл бұрын
@@AskHasani That's a horrible trade for the Wizards
@ericsmusic5927
@ericsmusic5927 2 жыл бұрын
Your trade idea is 🤮
@ebaynamesirbssssalot
@ebaynamesirbssssalot 2 жыл бұрын
Beal basically McCollum… dunnooo that’s a lot of backend money for whoever goes all in 4MLBT0ppzChr0me seemez ezezbhwaynamee-‘- sirbssssalot
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