What X-Men From The Ashes Is Really All About

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Thinking Critical

Thinking Critical

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@O_G_HELLBOY
@O_G_HELLBOY 7 ай бұрын
I've said it before, I've been reading/collecting for 45+ years and X-Men have always been my favorite. While the Hickman stuff started out interesting it ended up being a dumpster fire. My pull list for Marvel/DC has diminished to almost nothing and the premise of the X-Men reboot is just adding to the list of books I will no longer have to buy. Comics will break your heart. 😔
@JUGO1979
@JUGO1979 7 ай бұрын
Just like Blood Hunt, I’m just not feeling hyped about the new X books. That’s how little faith I have in main line Marvel nowadays. The Ultimate line is what I check for every month.
@Alex-yx5qh
@Alex-yx5qh 7 ай бұрын
You going to be picking up the new ultimates series in June then? Them bringing the original Human torch into it is a cool idea, I dug the free comic book day preview
@JUGO1979
@JUGO1979 7 ай бұрын
@@Alex-yx5qh Yessir! That was a pretty cool lil reveal on the FCBD issue! Ultimate Spidey and Black Panther have both been solid reads so far. The X book from Peach Momoko is something different that I’m willing to stick around for and see where it goes.
@Toki-Ralte
@Toki-Ralte 6 ай бұрын
tbh i feel the same way... btw your opinion on the DC side of things?? the Absolute line looks promising ngl..
@Alex-yx5qh
@Alex-yx5qh 6 ай бұрын
@@Toki-Ralte I don't know enough about the books yet, but will probably give them a try. I have liked a lot of Stuff Al Ewing has written, so Wonder Woman actually seems like a pretty good fit for him, and if we are gonna get the Jason Aaron from Batman Offworld and not hte Jason Aaron from Avengers on his new absolute superman then I'm down for that too tbh. Same for Snyder Batman, so if those rumours are true, I will probably be following the entire line yeah!
@DrDetfink
@DrDetfink 7 ай бұрын
This is yet another missed opportunity. Why would any Westernized democracy allow the mutants to retain their passports? They wouldn’t. Therefore the post Krakoa era is an opportunity for mutants to live in other parts of the world (or even the universe) similar to the Australia chapter. I find very uncreative for Kitty Pryde last seen slicing up Orchis henchmen to be a barista at Star Bucks in Chicago. 😆
@addidasabbibi808
@addidasabbibi808 7 ай бұрын
The Democrats will obviously be running the US in this Marvel continuity.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 7 ай бұрын
Kitty should turn herself to authorites to answer for your crimes. She's not the type of person that is able to living with herself after all the bad stuff that did in Fall of X.
@Oeeshik
@Oeeshik 6 ай бұрын
@@EvandroACruz We went from Kitty who could not kill a defenseless Ogun, the same Kitty who could not bring herself to kill let alone severely hurt Sinister's Marauders despite them committing a Morlock holocaust, to casually killing soldiers. Did these writers just not read Claremont era?
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 6 ай бұрын
@@Oeeshik Yes and now he punch people hearts out your bodies. Cut them in half with swords. How she can be a hero again? How she can come back from this?Duggan ruined her forever.
@Oeeshik
@Oeeshik 6 ай бұрын
@@EvandroACruz Krakoa mind controlled them, the clones are tampered with, Sinister controlled them. Many ways to retcon this.
@stevehnatko1050
@stevehnatko1050 7 ай бұрын
Gotta love some of the fundamental misreads of the X characters in these releases. It's just sad.
@vash9760
@vash9760 7 ай бұрын
It's a good idea to have the X-tiles all be in different places, one of the problems with Krakoa was how most of the titles took place in the same location.
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 6 ай бұрын
The X-tiles being all in the same place during Krakoa was a problem but what made it an awful and messy idea was how compartmentalized all the stories were from one another even though everything was supposedly transpiring at the same time.
@robertkulb6640
@robertkulb6640 7 ай бұрын
Weird that Saladin Ahmed isn’t writing NYX - two things he loves are confusing entertainment with writing poorly about social issues and driving teen-led comic books into the ground and near-instant cancellation.
@emeraldsayles8025
@emeraldsayles8025 7 ай бұрын
X-men is doomed... and I'm not talking about Victor Von Doom a.k.a Dr. Doom
@DomVonDoom
@DomVonDoom 7 ай бұрын
I agree
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 7 ай бұрын
Yes Krakoa Era killed the entire essence of the books.
@gamelover2222
@gamelover2222 6 ай бұрын
"X-Men: Doomed" Sounds like an awesome series I'd read. He does have his own mutant team now, right? Tell us stories about them!
@jfrsnjhnsn
@jfrsnjhnsn 7 ай бұрын
The big problem with this is the same problem that most of the mainstream comics titles are having, trying to keep these characters going for decades. This idea of taking a bunch of young writers and telling them to go nuts with their short story writing styles and do slice of life takes on the X-Men, just because they’re out of ideas. And when they do get good ideas, like Krakoa, which was a good idea to begin with, they don’t know how to handle them and they blow it.
@freman007
@freman007 7 ай бұрын
Remember, hope is the first step on the path to disappointment.
@ToyaHarada92
@ToyaHarada92 7 ай бұрын
Update: Marvel did not in fact get a good writer on "Wolverine". Just announced shortly before this video was uploaded. Marvel revealed the creative team behind Wolverine coming in Sept. Wolverine 1 releasing September 11th is Written by Saldin Ahmed with Art by Martín Cóccolo.
@sebastianstark8517
@sebastianstark8517 7 ай бұрын
Good artist, ruined by terrible writer once again. Thanks for the update on "Wolverine". That book just became a "pass" too.
@Kaine-e4h
@Kaine-e4h 7 ай бұрын
So the rumours were true.
@Toki-Ralte
@Toki-Ralte 6 ай бұрын
2:40 i think he already said Saladin Ahmed even in his previous videos.. the art by Martin Coccolo is an exciting prospect though 🙏🏼👍🏻
@Jay-fw6jo
@Jay-fw6jo 7 ай бұрын
Do you guys remember when DC Comics rebooted their entire universe? Why can’t marvel just do that with their universe? Have scarlet witch erase the timeline or warp reality and we can start over from the ground up. Why can’t we just have a reboot like that?
@UelCarter
@UelCarter 7 ай бұрын
DC never rebooted their universe.
@Jay-fw6jo
@Jay-fw6jo 7 ай бұрын
@@UelCarter wasn’t the new 52 basically a reboot
@Tetrahcodom
@Tetrahcodom 7 ай бұрын
Depends on how you define "reboot". DC has done I guess a soft reboot twice with Crisis on Infinite Earths in the 80s. Then Flashpoint to New 52 to Rebirth in the early 2010s.
@thatcomicdad1687
@thatcomicdad1687 7 ай бұрын
Be careful what you wish for! With the current leadership it would probably be garbage.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 7 ай бұрын
A semi reboot with the things comeback before Avengers Disassembled can work to me.
@Rnewton14
@Rnewton14 7 ай бұрын
X-Men hype from non comic book readers is at a high right now with how well X-Men 97 is being received. It’d be great if Marvel stuck the landing on a few of these titles so if a non comic reader walked into a comic book store and picked up what was on the shelf, they wouldn’t be turned away from the hobby
@MichaelBoogerd
@MichaelBoogerd 5 ай бұрын
that's exactly how it started for me... watching the original animated series, going into the local store and finding some titles from the same series... to my loss, it was in middle of AOA - so i had no idea how to relate the title to the animated series for a while until things went back to normal. lol
@ayucleonardo5638
@ayucleonardo5638 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the info.❤
@Lord.Caedus
@Lord.Caedus 7 ай бұрын
Cyclops is my favorite superhero so I will be buying Jed Mackay's X-Men. I'm also intrigued by the Phoenix book and that's it.
@Toki-Ralte
@Toki-Ralte 6 ай бұрын
I love this, more enthusiasm and positively looking forward to new stuffs with certain caution....... 🙏🏻🙏🏼
@robertkulb6640
@robertkulb6640 7 ай бұрын
Phoenix is the kind of book I would’ve really dug back in the 90’s when the Dark Phoenix Saga was only spoken of as ancient history and the cosmic areas of the 616 were really developing nicely after the various infinity sagas. Not sure it will work today though.
@mikefleming5247
@mikefleming5247 7 ай бұрын
I would settle for one good X-Book. 2 would be nice. 3-4 would be very unlikely.
@alexc8873
@alexc8873 7 ай бұрын
I get it Wes, you really want X-men to be great again, but until the D.E.I LBGTQ Woke activists are not fired wholesale, it will always be crap. This is for both Marvel and DC as a whole.
@InfamyOrDeath-__-
@InfamyOrDeath-__- 7 ай бұрын
Yea it can never improve until they’re all gone, or at least divide the comics into genre and give those people their own books and bring the rest of the line back into the mainstream.
@Anchor1981
@Anchor1981 7 ай бұрын
Truth!
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 7 ай бұрын
@@InfamyOrDeath-__- Krakoa killed the books and ruined these characters.
@ChrisK056
@ChrisK056 6 ай бұрын
Yet, he’ll continue to make these videos saying essentially the exact same thing every time , because negativity gets views.
@terrancehylton-lyons1776
@terrancehylton-lyons1776 6 ай бұрын
Stupid comment fr lol complaining about woke and DEI in regards to X men shows how little you understand the X men or mutants for that matter.
@raiderbear1
@raiderbear1 7 ай бұрын
Awesome work mate
@ajrodriguez8601
@ajrodriguez8601 6 ай бұрын
Here is what I hear Wes basically saying... "I really hope some of this might be good, but more than likely, it's all crap."
@LunaticReason
@LunaticReason 7 ай бұрын
Never felt Storm was a leader in the sense that Cyclops was more that she is like a star Quarterback.
@JM-gc7hz
@JM-gc7hz 6 ай бұрын
As a Storm fan that’s a solid take. I think Cyclops is more the strategist who gets shit done and Storm is more inspirational and relatable to people. You follow Cyclops when you’re focused on the mission and being more of a squad. You follow Storm when you care about teamwork and family. Of course there’s overlap and Cyclops has become more “feely” in his personality over time.
@danielcraig9666
@danielcraig9666 6 ай бұрын
​@@JM-gc7hzSquads require teamwork.
@AL-ws5yi
@AL-ws5yi 7 ай бұрын
I’m not holding my breath.
@doomedhuh
@doomedhuh 7 ай бұрын
we want to see storm interact with the other x-men, not in a solo book
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 7 ай бұрын
It's X-Men Red all over again where Storm barely interacted with her longtime friends and mutant family.
@kaczok1985
@kaczok1985 6 ай бұрын
Marvel: "But if we put Storm on Rogue's team she would have to take over as leader." Me: "I fail to see how this is a problem."
@ellesse3862
@ellesse3862 6 ай бұрын
As virtually all the main X-Men are dead thanks to the Krakoa era, it's hard not to look at them as hollow cloned echoes with memory imprints. Maybe instead of this relaunch Marvel should simply have begun to reprint facsimile X-Men every month, cloned comics from the 60s onwards.
@Oeeshik
@Oeeshik 7 ай бұрын
There is something so funny about Cyclops being on the Magneto team with the likes of Juggernaut and Magneto while Wolverine is on the Professor X Idealism team. They will never make Cyclops morally upstanding anymore
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 7 ай бұрын
No because Scott crossed many moral lines in the past years and know that can't come back from this.
@Oeeshik
@Oeeshik 6 ай бұрын
@@EvandroACruz Make him a sinister clone. I don't want to deal with mutant fascist hit squad leader cyclops
@kaczok1985
@kaczok1985 6 ай бұрын
​​@@Oeeshik They're all clones thanks to the Krakoan "resurrection" protocoles. The real X-Men are dead
@joeparrigen4982
@joeparrigen4982 6 ай бұрын
​@@EvandroACruzAvengers vs X-Men
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 6 ай бұрын
@@joeparrigen4982 Yes, I can see a new conflict of the teams in a next future.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 7 ай бұрын
honestly the ultimate line i am more invested in then the main line, but i am curious if the main X-Men books are going to be really good but we shall see.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 7 ай бұрын
Krakoa killed the X books. Nothing really good can came while that shitty fanfic stay in the main canon.
@TevyaSmolka
@TevyaSmolka 6 ай бұрын
@@EvandroACruz fair enough
@DonMegaPLP
@DonMegaPLP 7 ай бұрын
Gambit is rich. Logs and engine blocks in the woods? In NOLA?
@matthewmilan6979
@matthewmilan6979 7 ай бұрын
"Turn your head a little bit and squint your eyes" is a little too close to "turn your head and cough" for my taste.
@Reidbynature
@Reidbynature 7 ай бұрын
It's not that Storm would just take over any X team she was on, it's that she would easily take over THOSE teams if she were on them. Those are some weak choices as leaders. I'm not against the idea of a Storm solo, she has potential for superhero adventures in her own right and has classic villains like the Shadow King, but a politics book? That coupled with her 80s haircut contrasted with a business suit just tells you it's more likely librarian fodder.
@Jaymalkin980
@Jaymalkin980 7 ай бұрын
While the comic industry still works as a lez dispenser we'll either start off on the wrong foot or get there very quickly.
@addidasabbibi808
@addidasabbibi808 7 ай бұрын
I’m really appreciative of Tom Brevoort, Dan Buckley and the fine folks at Marvel for relaunching the X-Men with a more bland list of creatives as a whole compared to their Krakoa Era line of books before. At least we had Hickman and Laraz for some of it. I was worried that I was going to feel compelled to buy a ton more books, blowing my comics budget up. Outside of giving X-Men and Uncanny a spin, I have zero interest in anything else they’ve announced.
@Darkkent775
@Darkkent775 6 ай бұрын
Had a lol moment at the idea that Cyclops could kick Storms ass
@MaverickhunterXZero
@MaverickhunterXZero 7 ай бұрын
Given current x-men writers. Most likely food, characters suddenly interested in the same sex, and hating the male characters.
@AgentAshe
@AgentAshe 7 ай бұрын
The only time I've seen a pre. Crime style story work, where the person trying to prevent the event is still a good guy would be person of interest but no one at marvel can hold a candle to jonathan nolan
@anthonycollado2447
@anthonycollado2447 7 ай бұрын
You know, I wanted to give Gail Simone a fair shot but OMG was her FCBD Uncanny X-Men book terrible. I almost demanded a refund, but it was a free book! Jed McKay's X-Men book it is. I don't mind Jed McKay. Blood Hunt is semi decent at least.
@cowbelltv4865
@cowbelltv4865 6 ай бұрын
Wes, happy to see you giving these books a chance. I’m not sure I’ll like it but I feel they are trying to capture a little bit of what we like about the X-Men. I did not like the decisions Marvel made in the Krakoan ear and several of the other recent “restarts.”
@jonathansoko1085
@jonathansoko1085 7 ай бұрын
Normally when these relaunches happen I go all in and try to enjoy the moment but this time I don't give a f***. I have zero problems spending no money on this s*** in a dope cover is not going to fool me. I've been here too many times life is too expensive these days to be wasting money on s*** that f****** sucks.
@sanaaamir3462
@sanaaamir3462 7 ай бұрын
In the words of Raven from Apokolips War. "We're doomed."
@LunaticReason
@LunaticReason 7 ай бұрын
Being a Generation X fan I like the idea of a Emma Frost/Kitty Pryde school book however i am not a fan of the new characters and wished they had used some of the more recent students instead. I wish they would bring X-force closer to when Cable lead them. Personally I i was writing I would treat them more like a counter terrorism unit and not a killsquad
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 7 ай бұрын
A killing squad just make the mutant-humans relashionship worse in my opinion.
@LunaticReason
@LunaticReason 6 ай бұрын
@@EvandroACruz Yeah totally agree seemed like their moral compss slipped something that leaned towards Magnetos way of thinking than Xavier.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 6 ай бұрын
@@LunaticReason Modern writers twisted all the moral of the X-Men in the past decade.If I wanna read a true super-hero book I read Superman,Batman and Spider-man. The X-Men become tainted in nowadays.
@aqdrobert
@aqdrobert 7 ай бұрын
X-Men From The Ash: Marvel meets Pokemon.
@locusmortis
@locusmortis 7 ай бұрын
Uncanny X-Men has the best team and setting....but it's written by Gail Simone who I have zero confidence in putting out a good non-cringe story. They've still got Claremont on an exclusive contract, why not have him write or at least co-write it so that it has some semblance of being genuine The rest of the books are just Breevort flinging stuff at a wall and seeing what will stick. NYX and Phoenix are pretty much dead on arrival and I don't see Eve Ewing's book going beyond 10 issues because people will just get fed up with it.
@r33s3m2
@r33s3m2 7 ай бұрын
A Phoenix, Jean story would work.. how about? A freed Phoenix runs in to a force it thinks it can just push past. Quickly finds out it's wrong. Flees, to find help. Searches for its' favorite plaything. The one who made it feel strong. Jean Grey.. good vid Wes
@mikebickle823
@mikebickle823 6 ай бұрын
Remember when "this might not be bad" wasn't a selling point?
@lobaoguara2332
@lobaoguara2332 7 ай бұрын
I just don't know what the hell Juggernaut is doing in the middle of the X-Mans, weren't his powers coming from a magical stone or something? What the hell do these writers have with planetarium? This is the second time I've seen a story wanting to do this and twice it's weird. They talk about mutant culture but I don't think mutants created any "culture" for themselves.
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 7 ай бұрын
Juggernaut was part of the X-Men in the early 2000, less as a mutant team member and more of a human ally. Other than that, during Krakoa, he was made part of Nightcrawler's Legionaries on the mutant island (a religion police) and is currently helping in the War against Orchis. If mutants ever created a culture, then Krakoa's is the furthest thing from it : Their only "cultural customs" there were the Crucible (abolished after one year), the resurrection protocol (overused by the citizens), the Spark or Nightcrawler's mutant religion (whose writer still insists on calling a philosophy even though he wrote it as a religion and many characters during this era called it a religion), the slurs against humans (flatscans,...) and- No, that's about as developed of a culture mutants created in 3 years.
@lobaoguara2332
@lobaoguara2332 7 ай бұрын
@@spinningtornado4543 Damn... They didn't create unique clothing, they didn't create their own language, unique architecture... I expected more from the Krakoans.
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 7 ай бұрын
​@@lobaoguara2332 They created a new language alright... But it's just English that uses a different alphabet and it works on a basic "one symbol = one Latin letter" cypher so anyone can technically understand and read it as long as they are English speakers... Doug Ramsey came up with this. He really put little to no effort into the new language and I'm pretty sure nobody used it anymore after the first year on the island. Many people would consider the outfits of the yearly gala to be "new clothing" for the Krakoans... But it's just like Met Gala : Those outfits were ugly, unpractical and just serve to flaunt the wealth of the mutants who go to the yearly party. For the architecture, most houses are standardised unless you're part of the Quiet Council (Krakoa's government)... And even the standardised houses weren't that great or numerous enough to welcome the influx of mutants on the island : They had housing issues two years into the mutant nation existing on Krakoa, an island that is alive and could build stuff out of nothing. The mutant nation lacks basic infrastructure : No roads, still no hospitals, ONE basic school, no daycare, no pharmacies, ...
@lobaoguara2332
@lobaoguara2332 7 ай бұрын
@@spinningtornado4543 God, orgy island wouldn't last a week in the real world.
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 7 ай бұрын
​@@lobaoguara2332 Right. It wasn't helped by the fact the mutant government made a law about massive reproduction in a place with daily orgies and no hospitals. Then they were all surprised that many MANY mutants abandoned their children in the jungle, which were then taken in inside makeshift orphanages built by the common folk (instead of the Government).
@Jenner2057
@Jenner2057 7 ай бұрын
After the last struggle thru X Force, you'll never get me back to that title again. That last volume was awful. (Right up to and including the adamantium surfboard)
@brianerickson6775
@brianerickson6775 7 ай бұрын
Hope for the best, but expect Doc to say, "I hate you. Everyone of these books is awful"
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 7 ай бұрын
This was what Krakoa Era did to the characters.
@icarusdei6592
@icarusdei6592 7 ай бұрын
If someone knows about an X-men podcast that ISN'T gay, I'd love to know because they seem about as rare as a good comicbook these days.
@josesarango3408
@josesarango3408 6 ай бұрын
X-men will NEVER be as good as it was in the 20th century. You should start making peace with that
@bandoogiemanz
@bandoogiemanz 6 ай бұрын
i agree, it hasnt been good for a long while, well before krakroa
@VolkswagenGamer
@VolkswagenGamer 7 ай бұрын
I really try to like modern Marvel. I was about to walk out with Get Fury but the art seems half assed compared to the indies out right now
@buraddorun3043
@buraddorun3043 7 ай бұрын
I didn't hate this year's FCBD X-Men story by Gail Simone. I'll give the series a shot but keep my hopes tempered.
@Improbi
@Improbi 7 ай бұрын
Perch won't be happy about Wes talking smack about one of his baes, Geoff "Juicy Booty" Thorne.
@patrickmel8728
@patrickmel8728 6 ай бұрын
Ill grab all the 1s and the only issue 2 and series ill end up buying and reading moving forward will be the McKay Stegman book
@markalbert8135
@markalbert8135 6 ай бұрын
I am willing to give this a try. But my hopes are not too high.
@kidicarus2215
@kidicarus2215 7 ай бұрын
How are the X-Men not villains now? The entire world should have turned on them at this point. That would be a more interesting story than what they have here.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 7 ай бұрын
Yes,they trying to become heroes again after Krakoa made no sense. Xavier killed the dream and all they become murders in the end of this era.Why the humans should trust in them?
@kidicarus2215
@kidicarus2215 6 ай бұрын
@@EvandroACruz Yep. They joined up with some of the worst villains on the planet. Mindwiped people. Did a lot of horrible things. Not sure how they can walk it back.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 6 ай бұрын
@@kidicarus2215 Just erasing Krakoa from the main canon can fix the things.
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 6 ай бұрын
​@@EvandroACruz Marvel's too cowardly to do that.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 6 ай бұрын
@@spinningtornado4543 And stupid.
@markhowd7117
@markhowd7117 7 ай бұрын
Who says you are not positive towards comics.
@edwardtheeditor
@edwardtheeditor 7 ай бұрын
Been reading almost everything from Jed McKay since his Black Cat so will be grabbing X-Men. None of the other creative teams seem worth it so I'll be ignoring them.
@coleminor00
@coleminor00 6 ай бұрын
Saladin Ahmed is writing Wolverine ☠️☠️☠️☠️
@sebastianstark8517
@sebastianstark8517 7 ай бұрын
Speaking for myself, I only really want one good X-men book, and I prefer that to be "Uncanny X-men". If there must be a second, I'm lukewarm on "X-factor" or "X-force". As for a solo mutant book, I don't see anyone outside of Wolverine capable of carrying a book on their own from the gallery of mutants at Marvel right now.
@inadisguise9824
@inadisguise9824 7 ай бұрын
I have gone from a one time fan on pins and needles that could not wait for the next X-men story line. Try to guess what would happen next. Who the next new villian or hero to appear or will Magento return Whom be fighting whom, the danger room drama ? Then I became angry fan, nearly having s stroke, the, poor wring, awful art, and worse the hostile pr campaigns againt fans. Now, I no longer care about it, the on going floppies. Which seem to later become limited series and that was the plan all along. Is there really any hope of saving this disaster "canon story line", we have. Even if they put on competent team on it. Just happy we got the X-men '97 series to watchthid year.
@RACALDERONR
@RACALDERONR 5 ай бұрын
Jean is the one TRUE perfect host to the Phoenix Force!
@sinistavoicez
@sinistavoicez 7 ай бұрын
The Gail Simone book will totally be about THE MESSAGE. 4 new mutants... oh boy
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 7 ай бұрын
It's so strange for Gail Simone to introduce 4 new mutant characters in Uncanny X-Men when the franchise is well known for having too many characters that are severely underused. Why not develop already existing ones who don't get the chance to be in the spotlight (NYX mentioned thousands of mutants being homeless) instead of making more of them which will end up shafted by the first year?
@jamesburdo1058
@jamesburdo1058 6 ай бұрын
​@@spinningtornado4543She'll get royalties if they get in movies or TV.
@arcanask
@arcanask 7 ай бұрын
3:33 hold on. What happened to Danger?
@captainscomicsandcomments8079
@captainscomicsandcomments8079 6 ай бұрын
The Simone story in fcbd wasn't terrible. I'll give it a shot. I always want a good X-men book.
@badmrbox
@badmrbox 7 ай бұрын
In my opinion they've ruined Storm during the krakoan era making her an arrogant mary sue. Maybe she's been arrogant ever since they married her off to Black Panther. I dunno, I used to love the character, less these days. I doubt very much than a solo series with her playing politics will move any numbers. Uncanny X-Men is the teambook I'm most interested in and it's the team with least krakoan era harmed characters (except for Kurt, I'll never forget what they did to Kurt). All that team is missing is Colossus (poor poor Piotr). X-Men might be good due to McKay writing it but I'm not at all hyped about the team. Only ones I care about is Cyclops and Beast. Magik and Fakelocke I could do without. Juggernaut shouldn't be there. And I have no idea who the weird looking chick on the iceman bridge is. X-Force... meh. Maybe? Exceptional X-Men. Emma Frost and a completely ruined Kitty Pryde. Nah. Phoenix maybe. Depends on what's she's doing out in space. NYX nope. Wolverine written by Ahmed. Hell no.
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 7 ай бұрын
I agree with you but I'd like to add Gambit onto the list of characters immensely harmed by the Krakoa era because of the Rogue and Gambit mini.
@badmrbox
@badmrbox 7 ай бұрын
@@spinningtornado4543 God, I barely remember that comic except it had good art and Gambit have a bunch of cats. Can't remember what they did to him.
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 7 ай бұрын
@@badmrbox The unflattering highlights I can still remember in that mini was in the first issue where they used him for a puke joke and in a later issue they had him strap a bystander to a piece of furniture in a burning bar to be used as distraction for a hero that was chasing after him and Rogue.
@hauntedvoyager7806
@hauntedvoyager7806 6 ай бұрын
Calling it now-Uncanny X-Men will be bait and switch-start off with a good team line-up, but introduce new, crappy characters that the book ends up focusing on and the good art ends after the first 6 issues. 😈
@MichaelBoogerd
@MichaelBoogerd 5 ай бұрын
I admire the optimism that the new volume of UXM will last 6+ issues before the next reboot / writing team comes on board.
@cicolasnage5684
@cicolasnage5684 7 ай бұрын
I’ve said it before here this new X-men line has no heart and has just fallen flat on its face. Already out the gate with a shit ton of books. No direction, placating old fans with a 90s look and creators that stir no excitement. As much as I like Mckay even his name isn’t enough to get me on board Most likely I’ll pick up the McKay number 1 but that’s about it. And don’t even get me started on brevoorts stupid ass comment about a new number 1 a month
@hauntedvoyager7806
@hauntedvoyager7806 6 ай бұрын
Heard about the Russell X-Factor premise and it actually sounds possibly worse than the Eve Ewing book. “Mutant Influencers” smdh 😂😂😂
@terrancehylton-lyons1776
@terrancehylton-lyons1776 6 ай бұрын
Jean Grey, being the Phoenix, makes perfect sense, seeing as Jean alone is the only person capable of wielding its full power, i.e., The White Phoenix of the Crown. Going forward, she needs to be the mutant version of Wanda and the Darkhold being one with the Force going forward.
@GuyNamedGray
@GuyNamedGray 6 ай бұрын
So splitting it into multiple series again isn't a great move so far... Who would your ideal X-Men team be, Wes? (And anyone else who wants to answer!)
@Astonio
@Astonio 7 ай бұрын
Wait. You actually said Scott could take out Ororo? I literally lol.
@charlesharrison1907
@charlesharrison1907 7 ай бұрын
I’m not gonna lie.. this X-men reboot is weak.
@gringles
@gringles 7 ай бұрын
They’re never going to let go of that mohawk.
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 7 ай бұрын
This wasn't helped by X-Men'97 which brought it back (before the plotline that made it iconic) and left that image in the minds of fans.
@gringles
@gringles 7 ай бұрын
@@spinningtornado4543 Good point.
@Mr_Robotts
@Mr_Robotts 7 ай бұрын
Rogue us going to keep Xavier's dream alive... after he outright threw it to the curb and set it on fire during Krakoa. So which dream, the original one, or the xenophobic sociopathic mindraping one
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 7 ай бұрын
The dream is dead and the X-Men can't be heroic anymore.
@PaballoKobe-xh9ve
@PaballoKobe-xh9ve 6 ай бұрын
Planetary xforce sounds great. Planetary is just an xforce book anyway to be honest. Dont know about geoff but that idea doesnt sound half bad
@Lord.Caedus
@Lord.Caedus 7 ай бұрын
Cyclops is THE LEADER of the X-men. Storm doesn't even come close
@joeparrigen4982
@joeparrigen4982 6 ай бұрын
Bullshit
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 6 ай бұрын
So Eve Ewing will put Kate Pryde in a redemption path with her returning to Chicago and be a barista instead make her face the consequences of your murderous actions since Fall Of X? Sorry, but this just don't work. Kitty is the type of person that would be in a therapy after doing all the terrible things that she did and turn herself to the authorites to answer for all these murders. They ruined Kitty character and know that. I feel that Mckay X-Men will be similar like Utopia Era with Cyclops taking a more radical posture in how to deal with mutants issues. Everybody in that team have a huge body count and I don't see them like heroes. Rogue team maybe will the only one "heroic" version of the X-Men trying to uphold Xavier dream despise Krakoa Era killed that dream forever. I don't have any hope that the things will be better while Krakoa Era stay part of the 616 canon. The X-Men proved that all they can be dangerous and homicidal just like Magneto in the latest Era. Why humans should trust in them again? No chance.
@JM-gc7hz
@JM-gc7hz 6 ай бұрын
Eve L Ewing…Kitty’s about to be a confirmed lesbian.
@theoriginalpsychocharlie
@theoriginalpsychocharlie 7 ай бұрын
The free comic book day preview story was absolute garbage. I mean it was really, really, really bad. Did anybody read it? What did you think?
@Slitheringpeanut
@Slitheringpeanut 7 ай бұрын
Until the writers and execs are out, it doesn't matter what happens. It will always be garbage.
@namelesswhocares8648
@namelesswhocares8648 6 ай бұрын
True story I'm trying to remember the last book from DC or marvel I gave 2 shots about . I glanced at the Mark Millar crossover you recommended and I felt like I had to catch with every back issues to catch up. So I wasn't I treated, my loss I guess.
@incubustimelord5947
@incubustimelord5947 6 ай бұрын
Wes you have way more faith and hope than I do when it comes this. I'm sorry but I'm just not that optimistic or even enthusiastic. Not anymore.
@vintagecomiclove5742
@vintagecomiclove5742 7 ай бұрын
😂😂 I read the title as How Could It Be Good
@AndarilhoMarco
@AndarilhoMarco 6 ай бұрын
"Mutant culture." lol Magneto did win.
@roguesbackstory3441
@roguesbackstory3441 7 ай бұрын
It's going to be a desperate mess.
@Alex-yx5qh
@Alex-yx5qh 7 ай бұрын
To be fair, Chris Claremont did have Kitty as a barista in Chicago during x-treme x-men in the 2000s, so that part is in character for her I would say. The designs of the new characters look lame though, so I doubt that that book is gonna be good
@5StarFunk
@5StarFunk 5 ай бұрын
Why is colossus not on any of the teams?
@BOOGIE23er
@BOOGIE23er 7 ай бұрын
Why don't you like Mark Russell, Wes? Just curious.
@bZman
@bZman 7 ай бұрын
Uncanny MIGHT be decent. It at least has a good lineup of characters. The rest look to be hot garbage
@StillOnly25c
@StillOnly25c 7 ай бұрын
No X Men 97 Adventures ?? From the TV Show.. Will Morph, Morph ?
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 7 ай бұрын
They really could have relaunched the Exiles since Morph was part of the original team.
@Mr_Robotts
@Mr_Robotts 7 ай бұрын
​@@spinningtornado4543...they relaunched it not long ago, and gave us gay beast, gay wonderman, gay bucky, gay black Valkyrie, etc...
@spinningtornado4543
@spinningtornado4543 6 ай бұрын
​@@Mr_RobottsAt times I wonder why I even bother with this anymore. Thank you for the heads up, I'll add it onto the ever extending list of "Marvel's Management Maddening Moves".
@adherentofladycolumbia725
@adherentofladycolumbia725 6 ай бұрын
Here is an idea: Like Civil War in essence, but EVERYONE is being gone after. Basically, the world has grown TIRED of superheroes and supervillains of EVERY TYPE. Basically every normal person says, "go away". Think of how many times NY has been DESTROYED, or the world invaded, or reality literally duplicated, multiplied, warped, torn to shreds, and or put back together. It could simply start with someone like Spider-Man being given a court order for property damages. Then escallates to an event like Johnny of the FF being on fire somewhere, and people literally douse him in water or fire-retardent. A stronger example, people get so fed up with a villian like Shocker, they put him in an ER. The even escalated, to Iron Man being arrested by ATF agents for violating weapon laws. Eventually it goes gloaball, with villians like Doom being deposed by an invasion. A sort of build up that OF COURSE will be reset. Maybe even have some new mutants, mutated, or gifted by random alien tech turn away from offers of heroes and villains and say, "No, i dont want your misery." That would be interesting.
@ellesse3862
@ellesse3862 6 ай бұрын
You'd think one of the X-Men would tell Juggernaut he looks like a dickhead with that giant X over his face, poor guy, not even a mutant and he's getting a rough deal too.
@rootfish2671
@rootfish2671 6 ай бұрын
Yeah someone made that character design and thought it looked good. Absolute amateur hour.
@MarvelFan-zi9wq
@MarvelFan-zi9wq 7 ай бұрын
I'm kind of hyped for X-men, Nyx, Uncanny X-Men, and Exceptional X-men. But the 616 line is just not that interesting anymore. 😐
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 7 ай бұрын
My hype to all these books are 0.
@johnks54
@johnks54 6 ай бұрын
My take on how xmen should look like after this era X-Men - World threats 1 Cyclops 2 Jean Grey 3 Wolverine 4 Sunfire 5 Magik 6 Avalanche (reformed) 7 Synch 8 Namor 9 Manifold Uncanny - Mutant issues 1 Nightcrawler 2 Iceman 3 Firestar 4 Dust 5 Thunderbird 6 Fang 7 Pulse 8 Psylocke 9 Maggott Exceptional - Universe problems aka Mars 1 Storm 2 Beast 3 Talon 4 Gambit 5 Rogue 6 Emma Frost 7 Gentle 8 Xorn 9 Blink X-Force - Timeline 1 Cable 2 Bishop 3 Forge 4 Domino 5 Boom boom 6 Shard Bishop 7 Darwin 8 Caliban 9 Bloodhawk (x-men 2099) X-Factor - Government 1 Havok 2 Polaris 3 Micromax 4 Dazzler 5 Sway 6 Angel 7 Frenzy 8 Banshee 9 Feral NYX aka Gen x 1 Colossus -Teacher 2 Shadowcat -Teacher 3 Chamber -Teacher 4 Monet -Teacher 5 Jubilee -Teacher 6 Hope 7 Egg 8 Proteus 9 Elixir 10 Tempus 11 Mercury 12 Rockslide 13 Cipher 14 Hellion 15 Surge 16 ? 17 ? 18 ? 19 ? 20 ?
@MichaelBoogerd
@MichaelBoogerd 5 ай бұрын
it takes a while to get there but this from 13:00 made my mind up not to bother with these titles, quote: "this is a really, really, really, really, REALLY terrible idea for an x-book" too many books again.. when will they learn?
@leebishop7591
@leebishop7591 7 ай бұрын
Wonder if ppl would be interested in Storm and Wolverine as a couple, and they go on missions and taking out villains?
@trealsteve
@trealsteve 6 ай бұрын
DOA.
@ascorvinus
@ascorvinus 7 ай бұрын
I read Gail Simone’s story in the FCBD issue, and it was bad. The antagonist was your stereotypical bigoted frat bro. Totally one dimensional, fell completely flat. I want these books to be good, and I’ll probably sample some of them, but I don’t have much faith.
@neal8716
@neal8716 7 ай бұрын
I have high hopes for the x-men. High hopes that it's a dumpster fire.
@EvandroACruz
@EvandroACruz 6 ай бұрын
I never had any hope when Krakoa killed the franchise forever to me.
@ChrisP58
@ChrisP58 6 ай бұрын
Exceptional X-Men will get desperate and do a mini event: X Academy vs Strange Academy…Summer Schooled is in possession. Lol
@OnionSavoya-jf5hz
@OnionSavoya-jf5hz 7 ай бұрын
What's slapped Thinking Criticalytes?!?! When Wes talks the comic book world better listen. And get your wallet ready
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