10 Video Games That Punish You For Showing Mercy

[@SpanishFly120]

To be fair about the Breeder in Mass Effect 3 thing, that's actually not so much a case of ME3 punishing you for showing mercy then, as it is ME3 punishing you for NOT showing mercy in ME1 to the actual Queen, since saving the real queen in ME3 will have the actual Rachni help and contribute legitimately.

[@marvelsProtege]

Yeah you are a fool for trusting a fake one

[@DiabloBiscuit]

@@marvelsProtege Never trust fake queens

[@Xifihas]

Which is utter nonsense. It got turned, so killing it makes sense. It should have caused damage no matter what.

[@Outlaw7263]

But does it cost Arlak company to spare the real rachni queen?

[@teoteo3966]

@@Outlaw7263 pretty sure it depends on grunts loyalty mission from me2

[@corbingarrett1206]

One of my favorites is AC Odyssey where You're giving a choice but to save a family that has the plague on kefalonia, if you don't save them they get brutally murdered. If you do save them they end up dying anyway, but not before decimating the entire island with the plague, and every time you return to the island for the remainder of the game it's in shambles.

[@corbingarrett1206]

@matt yeah, both choices suck for sure, but one choice doesn't involve the decimation of an entire island. But the way the quest is put together you're always going to save the family on your first play through it tugs on your heartstrings. But that causes the entire island to die. Hence getting punished for being merciful.

[@channingtaintum]

It’s the “trolley problem” lol

[@johntaranto29]

@@corbingarrett1206 No I put them down first play through. I almost always pick the nice choice in games, don't like being a jerk even in fantasy worlds. But that was the plague not the ‘Rona virus come on now.

[@j0eblden342]

oh come on, the last of us entry doesn't count. you didn't choose to show mercy, the game did.

[@nyperold7530]

In that case, the Octopath Traveler entry shouldn't count, either, as you're not given a choice.

[@tazkannon7403]

@@nyperold7530 yeah, both of those entries shouldn't count. The list should have been strictly being punished by showing mercy "by your own choice". Not through a linear story progression scene

[@r0ssfern4ndez]

if we were allowed to kill Abby near the end things would be fine, but Naughty Dog was scared of it, because 95% of the players would have killed her without hesitation.

[@HorrorFlicksexplained]

Challenge 1k subscriber without video

[@kittychancool888]

@@r0ssfern4ndez spoilers*** 😂😜

[@matildatheoboldt2261]

I find the most tragic thing about Joels death is that the Joel we meet at the start of part one would've left Abby for dead. Joels surrogate father relationship to Ellie had softened him over time making him a more compassionate person then he was previously. It's much like the fate of Tony Montana in Scarface, Tony's moral decision to not carry out a hit because he refused to bring harm to children costs him his life after he made one merciful choice in a life full of immoral choices and behavior

[@westonlong]

It seems the lesson is never bend

[@Floymin]

I never played Part 2, but it looks like Abby should have killed Ellie when she killed Joel, because if Joel hadn't killed her father, the man would have killed Ellie. Therefore, killing Ellie would have closed the circle. Based on another Whatculture video I saw... Ellie letting Abby live at the end allowed her to continue leading her group to survive the way they always had instead of leaving her to a fate worse than death like morality choices I've seen in other games.

[@kittychancool888]

Spoilers!!! 😂😜

[@kittychancool888]

I'm finally somewhere near the end 😂 right now it's just me & Jesse while dina stays at the theater safe since we found out she was pregnant even though she's in love with Ellie 😂😜

[@ericsalazar9451]

@@kittychancool888 You're no where near the end.

[@wheatunrye]

The Morrowind ring quest was actually awesome! One of the first things I did on any playthrough. Because you get the Amulet of Shadows from the invisible Thief. It does like 80% chameleon! You're effectively invisible, it's game breaking and so cool!

[@scottamusprime2510]

I remember that. Wasn't he an invisible pants thief? And his victim was just hidin' out waist deep in a pond somewhere?

[@TheWolfDogg]

Commenter Edition - AC Odyssey - Help the family on Kephalonia being accused of having the plague, entire island gets the plague.

[@nativeartcherry]

What about Fallout 3 and Tenpenny tower mission??? You help the ghouls thinking you're doing something good, but then they later kill the residents. Didn't see that coming.

[@onlyashes89]

@matt how does that relate? You don’t get punished in any real way for disarming it.

[@jackdaemon1056]

Their leader talks about tearing the residents apart tho

[@Christian-Prepper]

Kill everyone in ten penny for the ghouls. You make a whack load of caps and a ghoul mask that you can use for the rest of the game to avoid any ghoul interaction

[@1003JustinLaw]

I played Papers Please as a dedicated government lacky and got that Glory to Arstotzka ending and I really didn't feel at all bad for it. My friends called me a psychopath for doing that though lol.

[@Stratelier]

Obligatory Undertale reference: Normally (and by design) this is a game that rewards you for showing mercy to whatever monsters you encounter in battle. But if you insist on killing monsters to the point of triggering the game's "genocide" narrative, near the end of it one character will try one last time to persuade you for mercy... ...only to promptly kill you if you accept his offer, because by that point YOU'RE the villain.

[@tylerthomas9405]

For the first one, couldn't you just pay the money to free Eva and then kill Mario after she leaves?

[@Bonesaw_McGraw]

I guess bet who knew to do that first play through

[@RoseKindred]

@@Bonesaw_McGraw I never played RDR 1 or 2 (I did play the undead game) but that sounds like something I have done in other games. Pay off the debt, when the person runs/leaves, I get my money back from the other person, typically at range and out of sight of witnesses.

[@Dreadjaws]

I think if you do that the game still interprets him as being alive later. Killing story NPCs outside of cutscenes usually results in either a failed mission or the game pretending it doesn't count.

[@noahdean9685]

I wish there were more games where the bad ending is canon, for example, legacy of Kain blood Omen you have a choice, to Doom the world or to save it and doom the world is the correct choice so in a way the bad ending is the good ending while the good ending is the bad ending it flips the coin on its head from its tail.

[@Just4Fun-Zocker]

Witcher 3 had several quests where you would regret to have shown mercy. I learned that the hard way and at some stopped being nice.

[@AntoekneeDE]

If we’re including games without a choice, then many gamers first major betrayal has to be LANCE VANCE

[@Meb2x]

It says a lot that a brief second of Joel’s major scene from TLOU2 is enough to send a shiver through my body. I’ve never had a more visceral reaction to any video game than the anger and grief of that scene.

[@mackenziestewart7318]

Same. I don't remember having a more intense reaction in a video game.

[@Dontworryaboutit961]

That’s the reaction you needed to have. It’s the point. It’s supposed to hurt and be brutal. Because the person doing it basically witnessed the same thing happen to them

[@cericat]

@@Dontworryaboutit961 Yep, it's both a demonstration of the butterfly effect, so many people die because of a choice Joel made in the original game, then that comes back and kills Joel in 2 and leads to more personal deaths as well. That said there's no guarantee that Ellie's death in the first would have saved anyone from the infection, and it's hard to judge Joel on that one when Ellie has become as important to him as Sarah. The first game is a redemption story, it may actually have benefited from showing more of what shitty people Joel and Tess had been instead of leaving it primarily to voice lines. The second shows the vicious cycle revenge can take, and the cost even if you break it can be high.

[@raf7550]

"The Last of Us part 2" in a nutshell: *Human enemy:* "Please, spare me!" *Player:* _(spares enemy, turns to leave)_ *Human enemy:* _(immediately attacks again as soon as the Player's back is turned)_ *Player:* _(reluctantly kills enemy in self defense)_ *The Game's Narrative:* YoU'rE a MoNsTeR!

[@ericsalazar9451]

I think that overly simplifies the story and completely misses the point. No one is depicted as being a monster with irredeemable qualities, not the people who murder Joel, or Ellie who can't straight up murders them in response. The story is about revenge and how empty the pursuit of it is.

[@Dreadjaws]

@@ericsalazar9451 Except that the story does not work in a game where the player characters kill so many other people over the course of the game. That's a story for a visual novel or a Telltale Games-style graphic adventure. Doesn't work at all for a shooter.

[@ericsalazar9451]

@@Dreadjaws it worked for me so that’s, like, your opinion, man.

[@Dreadjaws]

@@ericsalazar9451 Well, I'm happy for you if you have such low standards for storytelling, but objectively speaking it doesn't work.

[@ericsalazar9451]

@@Dreadjaws objectively? Pray tell, what metrics are you using to disprove my position that the game teaches you the lesson of empty revenge?

[@ex0stasis72]

Witcher 3 spoiler: if you go against the Crones' instructions to kill that monster they hired you for, and you show mercy after hearing its tragic story, then you put yourself on an irreversible path to the Bloody Baron killing himself, but you won't find out until dozens of hours of gameplay later.

[@TheRetroDon]

TellTale’s The Walking Dead Season 2 Episode 1 That dog taught me a lesson about showing mercy that I’ll never forget 😂

[@Evilintegral51]

Assassin's Creed Odyssey had one of these. It was a mission where a woman asked for your help to get a sunken treasure but when you come up from the treasure you are surrounded her and her pirate allies demanding the treasure with your only choices to surrender the treasure or fight off the entire pirate ship.

[@zwzodo7]

yeah

[@animegamergeek1427]

I was thinking of that. As punishment, I recruited her & now, she works for me, 😂

[@Herowebcomics]

Well, sometimes your choice to show mercy leads to people having a choice to do the same and sometimes they choose wrong!

[@WolfyFancyLads]

No Walking Dead Season 4? James keeps whining about AJ turning into a killer if he kills again, preaching morality while he himself also pushes his zombie religion on you about how they're totally not monsters, and it all comes to a head when AJ has Lily, a cold hearted woman from Season 1 who appears as a raider recruiting kids into a war they can't say no to (they torture resistance and kill those who deny them) at gun point. Listen to James and spare her, she slits his throat and escapes to carry on doing evil. Tell AJ to ice her, James bitches about it but nobody innocent dies and AJ turns out fine. Honestly, it's horrifying how many people spared her.

[@guillepankeke2844]

"Demoralizing moralty" is what i call the generic lies irl, that the establishment throws at you from different sources. Frustrate a person in their imagination, and you achive the exact opposite of what art can accomplish. Instead of dreaming of a better world, people submit obsequently and subserviently to injustice. I find those demoralizing "moralties" in rpgs, almost unforgivable, depending on how frustrating they are.

[@lozey8317]

Alexander in Elden Ring. What starts with helping a sentient jar get un-stuck from a hole starts a quest line in which you'll have to wind up smashing him to pieces and looting his entrails

[@ShadowJCreed]

To be fair a lot of Elden Ring quest lines end with the person dying or suffering a horrible fate that’s just as bad as death

[@shuigor6648]

No: what happens to Alexander at the end of his questline isn't punishment, per se - a duel is what he wanted from the best warrior he knows, even if it's from the Tarnished who he's aware is too strong for him. Rather than get an incredibly useful talisman from Alexander post-questline, having the Tarnished permanently lose something as an equivalent to that talisman would be an appropriate punishment, but instead, Elden Ring rewards your hard work for completing his questline.

[@tekablade6755]

For one of your next videos, could you do one on ways games honored those who died during production? A good example is Isamu Tanonaka who voiced Igor in the persona series. They had someone else voice a 'new' Igor in Persona 5 until you reveal the truth about Igor. Then you go the original voice (or close to it for P5 Japanese version).

[@TKnHappyNess]

Brian Jeremy from Lost and Damned fits into the same category as Clarence. Johnny spares him, Brian later leads him into an ambush with another of his biker factions. Although you can call Terry and Clay for backup during the ride

[@aaronshadwick1]

assassins creed odyssey Blood Fever quest where sparing a family causes a plague to spread.

[@aaronshadwick1]

@Furry Potato what?

[@shuigor6648]

Pretty sure Bloodborne had a lot of sadistic choices that were punishments: - Sending Gascoigne's youngest daughter to the Cathedral Ward gets her killed by a Maneater Boar; likewise, giving a Bloodstained Ribbon received from killing that Boar to the daughter's older sister leads her to commit suicide - Sending the Afflicted Beggar to the chapel in the Cathedral Ward and he starts killing all NPCs in the chapel - Asking the prostitute Arianna too many times for her blood and Sister Adella will kill her - If you send any NPC to Iosefka's clinic instead of the chapel at the Cathedral Ward, they get turned into a Celestial Emissaries (though on the plus side, this also affects the Afflicted Beggar).

[@bruselperro458]

I liked the video but damn couldn’t you tell from which games are you gonna talk about at the start? I was waiting to play one of those and I just ate a massive major spoiler :(

[@sacysily8968]

Nah, I don't regret giving Iorveth his sword at all, Loredo was clearly an asshole and would use any excuse to get his way. If the Witcher teaches you anything, like any good zombie apocalypse story, it's that humans are always the bigger monsters and the best choices are oftimes the hardest ones to make.

[@dizzyheads]

That buying prostitute thing actually makes so much sense tbh

[@merficvalmar4671]

Lol, Nr2 was a true George Floid story, even his face fitts perfectly xDDDD

[@RoseKindred]

SoulsBorne games love to throw in morality options. Bloodborne was fun, if you save the wrong person they take out everyone else when you are gone.

[@kittychancool888]

I sent someone to that creepy lady near the beginning that won't open her door & encourages you to send any HUMAN survivors to her ...... I still didn't get around to seeing where that leads ... I was gonna send them to the creepy dude in a church like setting who encouraged the same thing I guess time will tell 😂😜

[@RoseKindred]

@@kittychancool888 Oh yea, I forgot about the clinic. I meant it was risky to save certain people. The game was a lot deeper than I expected for a hack and slash adventure. I've spent so long in that game that I swear I can see Amygdala watching me from buildings or trees.

[@PaPaBeAr8686]

Arkham City: if you save the prisoner hanging over the lava, he attacks you as soon as you turn your back.

[@ashmitkumar3429]

I never knew that there was an option to spare Clarence's life in GTA IV. In my first playthrough itself, I saw the crane nearby so I climbed up and just sniped him. Didn't even have to kill anyone else. Guess this is what happens when you have played a few Hitman Games beforehand.

[@Joe_Okey]

I just snipe him from across the street.

[@animefan8591]

If you're going to do the game not giving a choice why not Rodrigo Borgia Assassin's Creed 2. Ezio just deciding he's not worth it at the end letting him live which comes back to bite him in the butt in Brotherhood resulting in death of Uncle Mario

[@Inurdot]

That choice happened across two different games though. Every choice on this list is in a single game.

[@otakujoo87]

Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow punishes you in the Jerusalem, Israel Mission. While moving through the streets at night and following your contact Shin Bet contact Dahlia Tal you are told out of nowhere by headquarters to kill her before you are both separated. If you kill her, nothing bad happens. If you incapacitate or ignore the order, she shows up later and reveals she is in fact a double agent accompanied by snipers, making your mission all the bit more difficult.

[@chadflanaganCFC]

Tbf the game heavily implies that releasing the Breeder is the bad option as it's clearly reaper in origin,it threatens to destroy it's enemies when you first speak to it,and if you refuse the Breeder calls back the reaper forces to try and kill you

[@Falchion1984]

Just so you know, "distrustful" means "reluctant to trust others". Someone you SHOULDN'T trust, of which GTA has many, is "untrustworthy".

[@tymanson689]

Rdr2 almost any stranger calling for help could be a trap

[@John-996]

Going into a cabin in the swamp has major consequences. Helping The Injured man Who gets his arm cut off he later Kills a woman for laughing at him. So by Helping him it leads to the death of someone else. Helping The Prostuite in the Random encounter mission if you help her see will later kill some one else and ask for help again.

[@JesseA29]

Abby died in every possible way before meeting Joel

[@augustoortiz1254]

Even if abby wasn't the killer, sooner or later any other familiar of the dead ones in the firefly group wants revenge over joel

[@JesseA29]

@@augustoortiz1254 killing Joel isnt what made Abby a lame unlikable (not in a good way) character

[@augustoortiz1254]

@@JesseA29 please, after the whole leak incident, was the first thing than appear, not the lgbt, not the story, was the death of joel than was the review bombing Everybody wants to play with joel, but i know than his sins gonna haunt him and hunt him.

[@CantankaGrin]

What sins? He saved an innocent girl from a group of inept murderers. As shown by the documents in the firefly base that mention other test subjects and that their "doctor" immediately jumps to brain surgery when he find someone immune. Apparently performing tests on their sole immune case and taking samples never occured to them.

[@briandurio6479]

@@CantankaGrin exactly TLoU 2 is one I'm never going to play because I hate the direction the game took narratively. They could have told so many stories with the world and instead they chose to kill off Joel and put Ellie through hell leaving her with nothing by the end while try to force Abbie as the new hero of the story. I guarantee you if they didn't face the backlash that they did there would be a new game out by now with Abbie is the star. I know the game is not universally hated and I know the character has her fans but me and my friend group just found it lame as hell and just stick to playing and recommending the original

[@marvin.a.flores]

Number 1 had no business doing in this list of you can't control the situation

[@zachtwilightwindwaker596]

Do not show them any mercy for you shall receive none. 0:30 That made me mad. I killed the guy when he did that. I didn't keep shooting him after he was down though. 9:02 And this is the part that enraged the internet. Ezio apparently got punished for showing mercy to this old guy. Maybe his village would have gotten spared if he killed him. But then again, the main antagonist from Brotherhood might come for revenge regardless.

[@zachtwilightwindwaker596]

something something random comment...

[@DjDolHaus86]

Releasing Navlaan isn't exactly being merciful, he doesn't want to be released so you are going against his express wishes by doing so. You just got punished for thinking you know what's best.

[@nwcrawford]

A little trivia about the Morrowind quest, it's called A Ring and a Prayer.

[@quinnmarchese6313]

TLOU2 just shouldn't count, its not a choice to help Abby, the conceit of this list is that games are punishing players for choosing to be merciful, not games that have consequences baked into the stories.

[@princeofpokemon2934]

Depending on which game I play, I don't show mercy. That's right. If you happen to be in a game with bad guys I hate, begging for mercy is an insult to me!

[@brandonsmith2798]

I think there was one in COD: Cold War where you rescue a captured informant but he later sells you out to the enemy

[@bearcataquatic]

About a third of the banner saga side quests could be here as well xD

[@ChucktheSpicyChicken]

Ahh ladys ring, i remamber that one, in one of my many morrowind playthroghs i found this one and it didnt work so i checked the wiki only to find its supose to be an ambushe, found the invs guy killd both and got my self a good enchanted nickless, the many things that i stole thanks to it, ahh good memories.

[@neoballast]

I gave iorveth his sword in Witcher 2 and kept the game save after that, as I was still able to choose whether to side with him or Roche... I'd no idea the massacre could be avoided till now. I just assumed it always happened...

[@mikewaterfield3599]

The fact that we were not permitted to club Gigantor like a baby seal was deeply dissatisfying. The writers knew most of us would. The only reason I kept playing after Joel was murdered was to kill Abby.

[@kittychancool888]

Banging dina was dope too 😂😜

[@Not-Great-at-Gaming]

No good deed goes unpunished.

[@Khaosblakheart]

#1 shouldn't count, also.. In Vampyre, sparing the NPC Pastor Sean he will go crazy and wipe out half the settlement he leads

[@getshwifty3101]

Question, as I'm not a fan of RDR1, but am a fan of RDR2: Would you be able to free Maria, but then immediately kill Mario to keep her safe?

[@jens7582]

Assassin's Creed Odyssey: If you safe the family on Kephallenia, the whole Island gets sick!

[@ladydeath4437]

The Tenpenny tower residents get killed by showing mercy towards 3 ghouls in Fallout 3!

[@matthewvalenti1348]

Demon’s Souls - you can let Yurt out of his cage and he won’t be hostile, but if you don’t kill him there he starts killing Nexus NPCs.

[@McBillyBoy]

Very good video, bioshock is my favorite

[@gammiex]

Great Video!

[@PoppaBoogaloo]

Honestly, Psy is becoming one of my favourite hosts on here. Him and Jess.

[@Leanzazzy]

It's good that games show that being good isn't just always the best thing and that morality is not black and white

[@Dominator200]

Call of Duty Black Ops 2 ,Raul Menendez get's his revenge

[@WenderPottery]

Love the video!

[@harryboyes2812]

Call of Duty Cold War. There's a choice of whether you spare or kill an informant. If you spare him he betrays you later on.

[@mikespike2099]

Commenter Edition: Army of Two - 40th Day has a few what ifs that play out ... like if you don't kill a tiger at a zoo and instead free it, it will then go on a rampage killing some civilians.... if you let this woman go that is being abused by this associate ... she actually turns out to be a hit woman and goes on killing others....

[@RaphBlade7]

I think I get why choosing to be merciful to Mario results in her death, is that the guy is an abusive @$$hole and thus he doesn't really deserve any mercy or money! Though I wonder, can he be killed after buying her freedom?

[@Demsky83]

The death of Joel is my least favorite gaming moment of all time.

[@framesdeanthesunsetters3372]

#1 should be the mass effect series lol

[@Xboxcampking334]

I played enough of games to know when being nice to certain people in games it comes back to bite you in the azz

[@roachxyz]

I didn't like Krea. We didn't see eye to eye the entire game.

[@cppblank]

Helping other people never pays off (except tax deductions for donations).

[@Kain01able]

1:20 why did you stop shooting?

[@Christian-Prepper]

Mass Effect 3 is incorrect. Mabey it has to do with paragon points but after releasing her She is added to my assets and Grunt usually lives

[@xdfeverdream8122]

I always release Navlaan after doing his quest. He keeps me vigilant.

[@dragoredrox7493]

6:00 if treyas with u she chides u for ur generosity making the event all the worse.

[@jbzhummerh2gamer]

1 doesn't count. We weren't punished for helping Abby out. Joel's death was part of the story.

[@burakardaaksoy6339]

Which if it was a option I would throw Abby to zombies

[@XenogearSolid]

Well, we were punished for the choice to play the game.

[@NaLu_85]

I myself won't play that crappy game because of Joel's death. I would have enjoyed it to be a multiple choice situation. But the biggest reason I hate what they did to Joel was made him stupid and let him fall for the trap in the first place

[@Joe_Okey]

@@NaLu_85 As someone else pointed out, Joel at the beginning of the first game would have let her die, but the full year he spent becoming a father figure to Ellie had softened his character and made it more believable that he would choose to save Abby.

[@NaLu_85]

@@Joe_Okey That maybe true but ND did him dirty by killing him off at all

[@djdub46]

In fallout 4 Nuka World DLC, should you decide to kill the raiders and free the slaves you miss out on a few perks and legendary weapons

[@MoneyManMoore]

i was going to be mad about the last of us spoilers then I remembered how long the game has been out 😂

[@grantlawrence4600]

The Rachni Queen really shouldn't be on the list. It's punishing you for not picking the correct choice in Mass Effect 1.

[@juegamealgo5374]

1:55 Ripped Robby s ells the best call of duty ch ea ts

[@rinraiden]

Abby only survived TLoU2 because Naughty Dog wouldn't let me kill her canonically. I threw her off mountains, let Infected rip her to pieces and I must've let Ellie kill her over 20 times before I reluctantly did it the way the game wanted me to. She has got to be one of (if not the only) characters in a fictional story that I despise. What a waste of Laura Bailey's talent.

[@CantankaGrin]

Exactly, plus I had little sympathy foy the fireflies deaths. Seeing as her father was about to murder an innocent girl when Joel stopped him. And she wouldn't have been the first, if you read documents in the firefly base then you find out there have been other test subjects. Also what doctor makes brain surgery the first call when you find someone immune to a deadly disease.

[@Joe_Okey]

Obviously, you missed the point completely. First of all, no matter what her father did, he was STILL her father and his being murdered was going to affect her. Second, she was given a chance to redeem herself through her association with Lev and became a better person for it. Finally, and ultimately, Ellie did the right thing in letting Abby go as killing her would have made Ellie no better than Abby. If Abby was wrong to kill Joel, then Ellie would have been EQUALLY as wrong if she had killed Abby.

[@rinraiden]

@@Joe_Okey She redeemed herself through Lev by... slaughtering countless people in WLF who trusted her? And killing Abby would be wrong of Ellie because it would have made her "no better than Abby"? Okay, so Ellie killing all of Abby's friends along the way didn't effect her at all? As long as Abby was unharmed things are... okay? No only was killing Abby the right choice (and the only choice Ellie would've made if they kept her writing consistent), but by not killing her all of Abby's friends died for literally nothing.

[@cgprojects3770]

Everyone saw that coming in TLOU2. Even before the leak it was so obvious he wasn’t going to survive. Likely the most predictable sequel storyline in gaming.

[@cppblank]

I mean, with the leaks, everyone knew they killed Joel early.

[@axelwulf6220]

What I hate most about apocalyptic outbreaks, is how petty people become when authorities are no longer in the picture

[@jamiemiller1482]

Mercy is for those who can afford it…. And I am strapped for cash

[@joeshabado1431]

Any witcher 3 quest. that's a long list though.

[@John-996]

GTA4 does Great job Of my choices matter allot people who decide not kill will either lead to another Side quest or small encounter were they will try to kill you.

[@Zand3rsson]

Please don't make me remember The Last Of Us 2's story

[@soldier660]

IN DS II he warned you a lot of times, so its really you fault to not listen

[@antoniokastrocarlisledemel6617]

Clarence reminds me of Willy from Saving Private Ryan

[@ecnalreleam]

How about saving Legion in Mass Effect 3 leading to Tali jumping off a cliff?

[@karlthorkildson4650]

That's like the Rachni example- it's only bad if you made bad decisions earlier.

[@ecnalreleam]

@@karlthorkildson4650 Really? I must have made bad decisions each time I played through it. I didn't know you could save both of them.

[@karlthorkildson4650]

@@ecnalreleam Well, not Legion itself but the Geth. And it requires a ME2 save with certain conditions, plus making a couple more decisions in ME3.

[@ecnalreleam]

@@karlthorkildson4650 Ah. Okay. Stuff like that is part of why I love Mass Effect. It gets intricate.

[@karlthorkildson4650]

@@ecnalreleam Though for a while, ME3 converged into simpler endings, which made most mad. At least one of the things the Extended free DLC added was Fallout style segmented epilogues so you got a glimpse of the results of your actions. A big hint though- saving the Geth is pointless anyways if you are going to pick Destroy.

[@EC-rk2zl]

I still believe Last of Us 2 was wasted potential. The reason i despise the game isnt entirely because of Joel's death alone. But also because of how the story was told (getting to play Ellie all the way to the "boss fight" room before getting cockblocked and forced to play joel's murderer. If I was made to play Abby and get to know her first before the golfing scene. I'd probably still dislike her but not as badly as I do now. Bonus is the epilogue, after losing everything Ellie letting Abby go is another punch in the groin

[@Joe_Okey]

First of all, no matter what her father did, he was STILL her father and his being murdered was going to affect her. Second, she was given a chance to redeem herself through her association with Lev and became a better person for it. Finally, and ultimately, Ellie did the right thing in letting Abby go as killing her would have made Ellie no better than Abby. If Abby was wrong to kill Joel, then Ellie would have been EQUALLY as wrong if she had killed Abby.

[@EC-rk2zl]

@@Joe_Okey I never said Joels death wouldnt affect her, that much is obvious. My gripe as i said the original comment is the way the storyline is constructed. Its a lot like the film Passengers (Jennifer Larence and Starlord) where-in while I understand why the female lead hates Starlord. I couldnt take her side, because I saw how Starlord was suffering for the entire first half of the movie. Thats my problem with Last of Us 2. The first half of the game is you being enraged just as much as Ellie. So when i was forced to play Abby in the PEAK of my anger. It soured my experience of half the game. Thats why i previously said they should have found a way to interchange it. (Ellie and Abby's sections). Letting you bottle up your emotions while playing as Ellie after seeing Joel murdered and never letting you properly release it by killing Abby or some other way made the whole game in the end feel dark, unsatisfying and pointless. Especially after that epilogue

[@kuroikitsune0]

I feel like this is a cheat cuz you added options where you don't have a choice in doing something that will affect you.

[@i20coyote85]

I can't play the last of us 2 due to the story, which to me is the most important part of a game, part of why I hate multiplayer

[@zedsmf2880]

I still tear up about Joel x.x

[@thefamilymealgaming]

If Joel stayed a bitter old man hed still be alive. but he let his gaurd down and got killed by a golf club

[@Joe_Okey]

You are correct. His year spent with Ellie on their journey softened his character and made him more likely to choose to save Abby than let her die.

[@thefamilymealgaming]

@@Joe_Okey 100% old Joel wouldve just left Abi to die and told himself she was weak. harsh but keeps him alive

[@jamesmorton47]

STOP GIVING JACK POOLEY WORK

[@adityachoudhury106]

Giving dawud a gun in dying light 2

[@comalan6018]

Splinter cell Pandora tomorrow

[@VampireNewl]

Dragon Age:Origins comes to mind, put the honourable Harromount in charge? Sorry you've just elected someone who's so conservative he wont change Dwavern ways even though there species is oppressive and dying. If you had put scheming Prince Bhelen in charge the Dwarves would have seen a renaissance from having someone not too caught up in tradition in charge.

[@brobafett21]

I’m taking it you didn’t actually play Mass Effect. It’s pronounced Rack-nigh and Ar-lack.