2016 Nissan Rogue Subframe bushing noise Nissan with 75k miles?! Lets find out what's going on!

[@paullawrence8075]

Nice work checking that vehicle for the noise , heat shield caused it all bushings were fine.

[@whatsnextgarage]

Thank you!

[@Scorpionbite8]

I wish you were my mechanic. Very thorough.

[@goofyfuhh]

Honestly it’s hard to find someone who does good work on rogues

[@playharder1435]

Yeah, if you're struggling to find that "knocking noise" (usually while braking), it's the sub-frame bushings. Cut up pieces of an old tire and make some bushings and you're done!

[@whatsnextgarage]

This one actually had that rubber washer/bushing between the subframe and frame. But for ones that don’t, you are 100% right that that should help dampen the noise!!

[@johnlizzard6530]

Your a real pro! I had a 2018 Nissan Rogue and fixed that flapping filter cover with a zip Tie

[@thomasfx3190]

…and it turns out to be a great car! I love my Rogue!

[@supernoahsark1]

i have a 2021 rogue and must say its smaller than my last 2018 rogue- feels like a small sedan. theres also something off about the cabin filter- i smell like pollution after using it, an experience i dont have when driving my other car. Technology and refinement for the price is second to none as well as the customer service but these have been real dealbreakers for me.

[@Jerry-up8bk]

I have a 2011 nissan rogue, I've been driving for 3 years, it's the biggest PIECE of JUNK EVER in 50years of Driving!

[@SamVieiraGuitar]

Lol came here for the front noise but stayed for the good video. Its a shame the noise wasnt found because I have same noise.

[@whatsnextgarage]

Thanks, it is a shame we didn’t find a solid reason for the noise!

[@SamVieiraGuitar]

@@whatsnextgarage I have a Renault clio 4 which is the same auto group as nissan and the frame and subframe is very similar but mine dont have bushing on the subframe, its like solid bushings.

[@johnlang2293]

I have a 2015 Rogue with creaky noises coming from the front, dealer said it might be lower control arm bushing, but a bunch of google searches and your video show it could be the sub frame bushings ! I'm thinking the latter since the control arm looked good and they only sorta kinda thought it was that. But the sub frame bushings seem to be the most obvious thing ! Thank you for making this video !

[@whatsnextgarage]

WOW what timing! I have another rogue up on the rack now. This one has creaking noise also but so far I haven’t found anything yet! Thanks for the kind words and good luck on your Rouge! Have a great 2022!

[@M3Eddie]

Get someone under the car. Put the car from reverse to drive over and over again. If you’re getting a creak or clunk it’s probably subframe bushing. I have one now with the left front bushing making noise

[@michaeltiedeman4586]

Very educational video. Thanks for posting

[@whatsnextgarage]

Thank you very much. Have a great weekend.

[@temperedsand093]

Unevenness of front rotors. Learned the lesson in a hard way.

[@whatsnextgarage]

Dang hope you got the problem solved

[@temperedsand093]

@@whatsnextgarage Yes, issue resolved.

[@DIYVariety]

Thanks for the vid, looking forward to the next one

[@whatsnextgarage]

thanks a lot I appreciate that!

[@charleshines5700]

What are the signs of bad subframe bushings? I hear clunks often when I go over a bump. My steering feels loose. Nissan dealer says he could not find anything wrong. I am wondering if he ever checked those subframe bushings. At night it is kinda scary because if you are turning and someone is coming up and partially blinding you that can make it hard to avoid hitting a curb with it feeling imprecise like this. They don't know it but in those situations I am thinking, oh great, please just go already and allow me to make this turn in peace!

[@whatsnextgarage]

@@charleshines5700 the cluncking is part of the issue when these bushing go. If you took it to a Nissan dealer they should have checked those with the initial complaint of a cluncking noise over bumps.

[@charleshines5700]

@@whatsnextgarage I have an inspection scheduled. I told them that I found this and asked them to look into it while the vehicle is inspected since it most definitely is a safety issue of varying magnitudes depending on the road conditions and all other variables. I even tell them too that as long as it continues to do this I pray that the CVT goes out and I have an excuse to get a better vehicle. I was a Volkswagen owner and I liked it a lot. They have tight steering and that is how it should be. My 2017 is a Rogue Sport (Quasqai over seas) and I expect better. Something just seems amiss with the handling and it was not always like that.

[@whatsnextgarage]

@charleshines5700 don’t let up the pressure on them. Sometimes they can be complacent when the issue isn’t obvious. Most are good but there’s always a few that don’t take their job that serious.

[@troyryckeley3798]

How about adding a magnet inside the bulge of that cover to keep snug to the oil filter? I'm really disappointed at the disposable stamped suspension components (Lower Control Arms, I'm looking at you.)

[@whatsnextgarage]

The durability of components on these newer vehicles is disappointing.

[@joatrating385]

So the video headlines subframe making noise but after this guy checks the whole thing out there’s nothing wrong so what happened to the noise that the car was brought in for originally?

[@whatsnextgarage]

She described the noise differently then I would have. There was more of a scrapping noise when turning sharp and hitting a bump. In the end it was a compilation heat shield for the rotors and the exhaust heat shield.

[@supernoahsark1]

Well done

[@charleshines1553]

My mom's Nissan has the same prop rod. I wish they would make it a bright color so I can find it more easily. It is not like it is something that you would want to hold open for longer than a minute or two.

[@chrisswift1834]

The brake disc shields always need bending back. I always find the anti roll bar "drop links" need removing to check them.

[@whatsnextgarage]

Great info thanks!!!

[@chrisswift1834]

@@whatsnextgarage Great video, I think the brake disc shields are to protect the driveshaft gaiter and lower arm ball joint from hot fragments off the disc.

[@whatsnextgarage]

@@chrisswift1834 never thought about that. Makes sense and I imagine to shield from heat. They always rust off with older cars in Wisconsin 🤣

[@anthonyjczerniak4297]

@@whatsnextgarage I'm having this same issue and guess what? I'm in Wisconsin! Where abouts are you located by chance?

[@TheresaDubois-qs5dx]

It has been very cold in Alberta and today I noticed a squeaking sound coming from my 2016 Nissan rogue while driving at low speed. The sound is also noticeable when the car is in park and if I bump it slightly with my hip. Would this be a suspension program?

[@whatsnextgarage]

It very well could be a squeak from the suspension bushings. Maybe take a silicon spray or some other type of compatible lubricant and spray the suspension bushings. If you can get it indoors🥶. Otherwise just monitor the squeak, make sure it doesn’t get worse, then see how it sounds when it warms up.

[@TheresaDubois-qs5dx]

@@whatsnextgarage Thank you! Merry Christmas!

[@thepaulinator6934]

Nice! I have a 2016 Rogue as well and have had front end noise since 15,000 mi. Dealership couldn’t find problem before warranty went out. Ugh.

[@whatsnextgarage]

Same here, I never really found the issue for this noise either. seems like a terrible design.

[@tperki2322]

I had a popping noise that came from the front left. I complained about it at 15k and the dealer couldn't find the problem. Fast forward to 40k and my warranty is over (four years). I complained about a different noise coming from the console. The tech heard the popping from the front left and replaced the struts to the tune of $1400. I told them I had complained about the popping at 15k, and the dealer got Nissan to pony up. I had to pay $90. Turns out the noise from the console was an Acco clip that got into the console - no idea how. That cost me $300 to fix, but I am still way ahead of the game. My Nissan dealer has been good to me so far.

[@thepaulinator6934]

@@tperki2322 oh wow! Great turn of events! I may have to revisit my dealership now.

[@whatsnextgarage]

@@tperki2322 Awesome that you had them record it at 15k. saved you plenty

[@danaschappell2779]

You're being ripped off by the dealer - Business as usual , they're all crooks .

[@pcnepal]

@ 10:53 " because no oil change place is going... and be gentle on your cover" That's why car owners should at least do their own oil change if they love their cars!

[@DM-hw4cr]

Only take a nissan to the dealer for fluids. Especially cvt

[@stuemany]

So, what’s the noise?

[@whatsnextgarage]

The only thing that I found was the few loose rattles and rubbing parts. It’s been over a year and I’ve installed a hitch and did brakes again for this customer and the noise never resurfaced.

[@mrrooster1859]

I have a 2015 nissian rouge , it started making low grinding noise when first starting off and reverse . My mechanic could not find problem with noise . Car operations are perfectly fine . Have driven it on vacation with no problems . Low grinding sound like something is loose l drive daily with no other problems . Has any body experience this same problem ? Also there are occasions when it does make any noise . It also burns oil with no leaks ! Mechanic also has no idea , note this mechanic is reliable and have been going to him for years with multiple care .

[@anthonyjczerniak4297]

I've had the same problem with my 08 Rouge. Go to 7:35 of this vid and I had the same problem but from the rear. Instead of taking the tire off, I used my had or screwdriver and pushed it away from the tire (right through the rim I pushed lightly on the aluminum metal shield and bent it very lightly) because it was rubbing on the tire. That happened twice to me, just an idea and could be the easiest solution! Hope this helps!

[@anthonyjczerniak4297]

After I typed this, a cpl responses down was the exact issue I had. (Chris Swift is the name of the poster that responded. Read that to better understand if need be)

[@mrrooster1859]

Thanks for your help , I’ll let you know how it goes . Thank you again .

[@whatsnextgarage]

Mr Rooster, there are a few potential issues that are causing your low grinding noise. These are from my experiences only. Like others have posted, the heat shield can sometimes get bend and interfere with the rotor, also if it is humid outside there is a potential of flash rust forming between the semi-metallic pads and the rotor. This will cause a low grinding noise until it gets rubbed off, typically within the first few 100 feet of driving and braking. Because your vehicle is a 2015, I wouldn’t expect the rear differential to be making a grinding noise or the wheel bearings yet, and if these were bad, they would make noise every time you would drive. Finally, If your mechanic checked pads and rotors as well as other common trouble spots I can only guess that the noise is from flash rust. Hope this helps and keep us posted. Have a great week!!

[@mrrooster1859]

@@whatsnextgarage thank you for your response. I’ll going to look for into the issues this weekend . I’ll also try to have some audio so everyone can hear the noise .

[@erikreally2241]

So I have same problem whit my Nissan Rogue 2017 took it to a mechanic and he has not found the rite part that is making the noise and I’ve already spent 600 on parts that weren’t it and I think it might be the control arm bushing ...but I have a question is it suppose to have like a black rubber ball kind of ? where you moved it with the bar

[@whatsnextgarage]

When the car is lifted into the air it will look like that because the suspension is pushing the control arm down and the rubber bushing flexes in that socket. That’s why it is kind of bulging out like that.

[@PapaTayo]

I have my Rouge since I purchased it new in 2016. In winter time the same problem comes back and disappears in spring. Squeaky rubber noise from underneath. It has been checked every winter and nobody was able to find the problem. It happens over the road bumps, every time.

[@whatsnextgarage]

Perhaps get a can of silicon spray and spray the rubber bushings that connect the front subframe and the shock tower bushings. That may help the noise

[@PapaTayo]

@@whatsnextgarage thanks, I'll do that tomorrow.

[@garicphilip9208]

@@PapaTayoany update?

[@PapaTayo]

Nothing helped. I sold it. No more Nissan.

[@whatsnextgarage]

@PapaTayo lol that is definitely a solution to your problem!! Have a great new week!

[@higherregion]

I buy a lot of these rogues from auction and man they are bad cars. Even with low mileage they have differential problems, transmission valve body problems etc.. Great looking and driving car, and great for resale. However, a lot of problems compared to the CRV's and Rav4s.

[@whatsnextgarage]

I was surprised at the reviews these rogues have been getting! Some good some bad, it appears even with the maintenance up to date it is mixed. Never had a Honda vehicle yet, but I’m still young🤣. Have a great New Year!!

[@Not_Sure_]

So there was nothing wrong with it ?

[@whatsnextgarage]

Just that stupid heat shield for the brakes. The owner had it back a month or so ago for an oil change and said the noise never came back🤷‍♂️

[@Monza62000]

good job

[@whatsnextgarage]

Thanks a lot for the kind words!!

[@TrendKiller01]

It seems to be a very common issue for nissan/renault/samsung SUVs. and that's a shame.

[@whatsnextgarage]

Yes I agree. Otherwise they seem like a relative nice vehicle.

[@SamVieiraGuitar]

True.

[@tonycervantes4816]

Okay u check of subframe or what part bro???

[@whatsnextgarage]

It turned out not to be the subframe this time. It actually was noise that was coming from the front rotors. The subframe bushings were ok when I was prying on them. I didn’t have to replace any parts related to the subframe! Happy for that👍

[@tonycervantes4816]

@@whatsnextgarage so if is.of subframe how can I know is that or the bushings.? Sir.

[@whatsnextgarage]

@@tonycervantes4816 If the sub frame bushings are bad, they steel sleeve will be separated from the rubber or when you pry with a pry bar they will be loose or make a clunking sound. The heat shield that was the problem on my job made a scraping noise that the owner had thought came from the underside middle of the car.

[@tonycervantes4816]

@@whatsnextgarage okay if is of bushings can I remplace just of bushings. ?

[@whatsnextgarage]

@@tonycervantes4816 yes you can replace just the bushings. It’s kind of a pain because they are pressed in. But it can be done.

[@marcgaudreau9979]

pulley dude!!

[@TheresaDubois-qs5dx]

Meant to say suspension problem - sorry

[@whatsnextgarage]

Lol no worries. Merry Christmas

[@chanchaniscool]

I've replaced drop links twice

[@whatsnextgarage]

WOW then they definitely wear and fail.

[@shongxiong1321]

leave that for 2dn shift

[@whatsnextgarage]

For sure I will🤣

[@vwrxlasvegas]

What's the price for shops to do these bushings?

[@whatsnextgarage]

I am not sure but I have heard that the dealers just replace the entire subframe and do not just replace the bushings. I bet its between $1000 and $1500 at the dealer. An independent shop, probably $500 just to press out and reinstall.

[@ralf4k]

You can find them on amazon or ebay, just look for rogue subframe bushings

[@supernoahsark1]

Subscribe worthy- and I don’t know jack about cars😆

[@whatsnextgarage]

WOW thank you very much! I appreciate it a lot! Have a great Holiday Season!! Thanks again!

[@charleshines1553]

What some people call play, I call slop

[@Adam-jl8nu]

Dont buy this car. I have replaced my sway bars, front drive shafts and wheel bearings at 115k

[@whatsnextgarage]

WOW!! I was checking it out for a friend so its to late for them!! i will steer clear of them!

[@Adam-jl8nu]

@@whatsnextgarage yep I need to do my subframe bushings next. Its a piece of shit

[@thomasfx3190]

What? How long did you expect these parts to last? Drive shafts & wheel bearings are the same part, but if you beat on your car, you can expect it to last 115k. Do the repairs and drive it.

[@Adam-jl8nu]

@@thomasfx3190 cv axels not drive shafts. I did not beat my car, these things are made cheaply. Forgot to mention sway bars. My whole front end was fucked.

[@thomasfx3190]

@@Adam-jl8nu well, I’ve got two rogues, my sons car has 88k miles and mine has 45k miles. Mine was built in Mississippi, his was built in S. Korea. Zero problems. We always get our service done at Nissan. I can see replacing CV joints / shafts at 100k as normal wear and tear, but what happened that your sway bar is broken? It’s just a big iron rod. Did they show you the worn out bearings?

[@BrokenLuxury777]

Never buy a Nissan again. Recall all their cars.

[@whatsnextgarage]

🤣