When a "Plot Twist" is WAY too Obvious

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@oneinathousand2156
@oneinathousand2156 4 ай бұрын
The dad is DEFINITELY dying right after the plot twist finally comes.
@mgatwood42
@mgatwood42 4 ай бұрын
His final words will be, "You have her eyes... my son..." The sequel trilogy is then entirely about the young man solving the mystery of the king's enigmatic dying words.
@Lernos1
@Lernos1 4 ай бұрын
@@mgatwood42 Then he finds out he's been carrying his mother's eyes inside the pendant all this time.
@isadoranurdin4402
@isadoranurdin4402 3 ай бұрын
🤯​@@Lernos1
@achmodinivswe9500
@achmodinivswe9500 3 ай бұрын
@@Lernos1that is way too much of a plot twist smh
@AngryPomeranian-z8y
@AngryPomeranian-z8y 3 ай бұрын
@@Lernos1ok this made me laugh
@marcoz6281
@marcoz6281 4 ай бұрын
imagine a book that does this foreshadowing for the entire time but then it turns out that they were completely off track and it really was a coincidence the whole time
@easolinas1233
@easolinas1233 4 ай бұрын
Or even better, that the "son" is actually the offspring of the "father's" enemy or something like that.
@neon_Nomad
@neon_Nomad 4 ай бұрын
Or thats the Son is actually a time travelling version of himself.
@Yesica1993
@Yesica1993 4 ай бұрын
Oh, man, I'd be furious!
@marcoz6281
@marcoz6281 4 ай бұрын
@@Yesica1993 and I'd laugh
@genericallyentertaining
@genericallyentertaining 4 ай бұрын
This definitely never happens in TV shows/book series when the audience guesses the "twist" earlier than they're supposed to.
@severe_case_of_multistan
@severe_case_of_multistan 4 ай бұрын
You fight like a lion. Who are you? “A furry.”
@hunterterrell5735
@hunterterrell5735 4 ай бұрын
That honestly sounds like a more shocking twist
@redcraft612
@redcraft612 3 ай бұрын
A spidery furry.
@realdragon
@realdragon 3 ай бұрын
@@redcraft612 Tarantula furrsona?
@da47934
@da47934 4 ай бұрын
Choosing the same actor to play both parts is a dead giveaway.
@carolinecolbert5692
@carolinecolbert5692 4 ай бұрын
Underrated comment
@MoonKent
@MoonKent 3 ай бұрын
No, it's a dad giveaway
@da47934
@da47934 3 ай бұрын
@MoonKent Yessss!!! Well played!
@morbiusfan3176
@morbiusfan3176 3 ай бұрын
The Prestige (2006)
@KingOfMadCows
@KingOfMadCows 4 ай бұрын
Man, it was such a great twist when it turned out that "Ableyon" was the king's personal guard who went mad after failing to protect his king and started to believe that he was the king so that he could find the prince and get revenge on the people who destroyed their kingdom.
@Rock-Child
@Rock-Child 4 ай бұрын
That would actually be a great plot twist! Keep it up
@Kat-vo7ze
@Kat-vo7ze 3 ай бұрын
I'd eat that up tbh
@JakubWojciechowski933
@JakubWojciechowski933 3 ай бұрын
Okay, I *love* that one
@bethanyflores8248
@bethanyflores8248 3 ай бұрын
Damm that sounds similar to my story 😢
@joemama-qy4fb
@joemama-qy4fb 3 ай бұрын
Don't forget to mention the bodyguard was the queen's secret lover and that the king tolerated the relationship because he was infertile, so the prince is actually the bodyguard's son.
@GiRR007
@GiRR007 4 ай бұрын
"What is it fath... Ableyon ? " 😂😂😂 Nice touch
@OsmSkylandersCheats
@OsmSkylandersCheats 4 ай бұрын
I'd like to think it was in the book and MC actually suspected something
@Jurgan6
@Jurgan6 4 ай бұрын
At the other extreme, you can be my wife who guesses the most obscure plot twists during the opening credits.
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 4 ай бұрын
This just comes from watching a lot of stuff. The smallest hints can give it all away.
@neverendinglute3125
@neverendinglute3125 4 ай бұрын
It’s so funny when I do that to my spouse. It’s usually when I’m joking too and my spouse is always like ‘Come ONN, HOW!’
@amajikisenpai
@amajikisenpai 3 ай бұрын
I do it when my brother tries to show me something new
@cuffed2479
@cuffed2479 3 ай бұрын
How often is she correct?
@Jurgan6
@Jurgan6 3 ай бұрын
@@cuffed2479 every. Single. Time.
@thesong7877
@thesong7877 4 ай бұрын
If people see your plot twist coming, it's not a plot twist. It's just the plot. Which is fine, if that's what you want.
@zachswanson6643
@zachswanson6643 4 ай бұрын
I actually disagree with this, I think you have to foreshadow your twists at least a tiny bit. My friend who is reading rhythm of war keeps texting me perfectly correct theories about things that are definitely twisty as he's reading because he's just a smart cookie that way.
@genericallyentertaining
@genericallyentertaining 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, this problem only arises when the author thinks it's a plot twist, but it's not.
@kakahass8845
@kakahass8845 4 ай бұрын
@@zachswanson6643 Yes exactly. Figuring out the twist before the twist is just as fun if not more fun than getting surprised.
@vulpinemachine
@vulpinemachine 4 ай бұрын
@@zachswanson6643 Seductive writing is essential, twists are not. Source: I write stuff.
@Juan_Jose_Miraballes
@Juan_Jose_Miraballes 4 ай бұрын
How many people? 10% of readers? 20%? 50%? Just one reader? How many people have to see it coming for it to stop being being a twist?
@dojee8993
@dojee8993 4 ай бұрын
"Not really, i like spiders" really great delivery on that line lol
@genericallyentertaining
@genericallyentertaining 4 ай бұрын
Spiders are cool.
@nikacomedawn
@nikacomedawn 4 ай бұрын
​@@genericallyentertaining NOOO! SPIDERS ARE EVIL AND MURDEROUS AND YOU ARE MY MORTAL ENEMY NOW!
@blueninja012
@blueninja012 4 ай бұрын
​@@nikacomedawn I'm siding with the anti-spider coalition
@thepotatoportal69
@thepotatoportal69 4 ай бұрын
@@blueninja012 They eat all of the pests in your garden and THIS is how you repay them?!? Unbelievable.
@rowanstree8499
@rowanstree8499 4 ай бұрын
@@thepotatoportal69theyre a bunch of ungrateful brats!
@Knuckles2761
@Knuckles2761 4 ай бұрын
Obviously, Spider-people ate newborn prince and consume his memory and DNA, then they create a spider-spy, who looks exactly the same and can claim the throne later. Big political game.
@isadoranurdin4402
@isadoranurdin4402 3 ай бұрын
That's actually brilliant, would read 100%
@AngryPomeranian-z8y
@AngryPomeranian-z8y 3 ай бұрын
That would be an amazing plot twist
@scrollexdestiny
@scrollexdestiny 3 ай бұрын
but the newborn prince didnt die they only got to bite of his ear and because of that theres gonna be a big battle whos the real one
@realdragon
@realdragon 3 ай бұрын
It's just hundreds of spiders wearing human skin
@isadoranurdin4402
@isadoranurdin4402 3 ай бұрын
@@realdragon *aggressively taking notes*
@wildste
@wildste 4 ай бұрын
751 pages before you gave up, you have more patience than me
@genericallyentertaining
@genericallyentertaining 4 ай бұрын
I appreciate you calling my stubborn naivete "patience."
@dorthvoder9375
@dorthvoder9375 4 ай бұрын
@@genericallyentertaining The book isn't that long, don't give dirt to my boy Edgar Rice Burroughs, lol.
@pisoprano
@pisoprano 4 ай бұрын
“We need to find the super rare Winter Fairy lest everything fall to ruin!” 2 minutes later “Hi, I’m new here. My name is [Japanese Word for Snow]” “Cool! A new friend!”
@YukitsuTimes
@YukitsuTimes 3 ай бұрын
You rang?
@zalaweyker8007
@zalaweyker8007 3 ай бұрын
I understood that reference!
@TFAltHist
@TFAltHist 3 ай бұрын
@@zalaweyker8007 What's it referencing?
@zalaweyker8007
@zalaweyker8007 3 ай бұрын
@@TFAltHist Destined, book 4 of the Wings series by aprillyne pike.
@TheKoriKasai
@TheKoriKasai 3 ай бұрын
Kori? Well it means ice but close enough
@davidmay6609
@davidmay6609 4 ай бұрын
The twist so obvious the MC almost forgot his lines.
@SPDYellow
@SPDYellow 4 ай бұрын
Not sure what’s worse: this or when the writer’s like “Oh crap, the reader’s putting together clues about my twist or the buildup I’ve set up regarding future events in my story. Time to pull a twist out of my ass that renders all this planting of clues and buildup meaningless! That’s what readers want: nonsensical twists that render the story and characters they cared about meaningless.”
@DianaW3431
@DianaW3431 4 ай бұрын
Wheel of Time: All the foreshadowing of Taim being Damodred only for Jordan to decide that too many readers had guessed and render all the foreshadowing as useless…
@groofay
@groofay 4 ай бұрын
Even worse is BBC Sherlock, when the showrunner decides to "outsmart" the audience by not giving them the most crucial clues within the episode, only for Sherlock to pull them out of his ass at the end because what a smart boy he is.
@SPDYellow
@SPDYellow 4 ай бұрын
It’s the difference between why the twists in the early seasons of Game of Thrones worked and the latter ones after the showrunners ran out of books didn’t. With the early seasons, the twists are shocking yet looking back, you can see how it was all set up and how it was really inevitable in a sense, that it was always going to end this way for that character; for it to end another way, would require them to be a completely different character. Latter seasons, they just pull stuff out of their asses for the sake of saying, “Fooled ya!” It’s the equivalent of poking your audience in the eye and being baffled when they get mad at you.
@RorikH
@RorikH 4 ай бұрын
​@@groofay Oh come on man, who doesn't know that a secret government lab in Liberty Indiana ran an experiment on weaponized Hallucinogens in 1993?
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 4 ай бұрын
@@SPDYellow What happened with Game of Thrones was people expected pop-culture trash and they got avant garde trash. It had nothing to do with giant left turns "out of nowhere"
@gowzahr
@gowzahr 4 ай бұрын
Plot twist, they're the same person, but with time travel shenanigans.
@scrollexdestiny
@scrollexdestiny 3 ай бұрын
oh god do i hate time travel in stuff that doesnt needed it and didnt use it for majority of it
@OutsiderLabs
@OutsiderLabs 4 ай бұрын
This is why stories we read as kids always seem like the best, it was before we realised all fiction is just a bunch of tropes in a trenchcoat
@ditto31
@ditto31 4 ай бұрын
Read better fiction
@genericallyentertaining
@genericallyentertaining 4 ай бұрын
Well, on the bright side, that's always a good push to get out of your comfort zone a little and read completely new things!
@SPDYellow
@SPDYellow 4 ай бұрын
Tropes aren’t necessarily bad. People have the unfortunate habit of using the word trope as a synonym for cliche, but that’s not really true. Tropes can become cliches if used badly, but really all fiction is made up of tropes the way music is made up of notes. Maybe if you just typed “purple monkey dishwasher” for three hundred pages, you can say you’ve written fiction without any tropes but chances are, there’s probably a trope for fiction that’s just typing “purple monkey dishwasher” over and over. There’s no escaping tropes, my pretties! :wicked witch of the west cackles:
@micheleduritto
@micheleduritto 4 ай бұрын
@@SPDYellow You are spot on, the "tropes" discourse online urks me as well....thing is, it is usually done by avid readers not really by writers, because actual writers know it is basically impossible to write withouth any trope at this point.
@nuance9000
@nuance9000 4 ай бұрын
I don't know man... I read Goosebumps and Animorphs when I was a "kid"~ Now, I'm reading Virginia Woolf and Harlan Ellison. I miss being a kid... 😂😅
@Mayeur000Donz
@Mayeur000Donz 4 ай бұрын
Writers should keep in mind that if plot threads are built on strong characters arcs, and cause & effect, then they'll still be satisfying even if the reader sees it coming. Ideally, if not a "Whoa?!?" of surprise, you could get a "Yes!!" of catharsis, because the reader enjoyed seeing the story unfold the way they predicted.
@futurestoryteller
@futurestoryteller 4 ай бұрын
I actually think this has developed into fan entitlement. People think something is "supposed to happen" and sometimes it doesn't and it was... *_never_*_ supposed to!_
@BlueFire-guy
@BlueFire-guy 3 ай бұрын
True! That what I feel when play Ace attorney :’).
@scrollexdestiny
@scrollexdestiny 3 ай бұрын
yeah and they should prob have that mindset bc plottwists without out of nowhere are shit
@thanetothefalseking332
@thanetothefalseking332 4 ай бұрын
“What is it fa- I mean, Ablaeon?” had me laughing louder than is socially acceptable in most countries.
@easolinas1233
@easolinas1233 4 ай бұрын
There's a fine line to walk between making the twist too obvious and not foreshadowing it. Especially when it's a twist that we've been spoofing since 1980.
@friesforlife8120
@friesforlife8120 4 ай бұрын
“What is it fathe.. Abeleon” when even the characters can see the plot twist coming 😂
@mahailas
@mahailas 4 ай бұрын
“If I wasn’t so obsessive with my goodreads” ya pretty much…
@groofay
@groofay 4 ай бұрын
Wait, so is there some kind of connection between those two characters, or...?
@genericallyentertaining
@genericallyentertaining 4 ай бұрын
Wait for the sequel video to find out!! (Sorry I had to end this one on a cliffhanger.)
@toweypat
@toweypat 2 ай бұрын
Duh! They shop at the same pendant store!
@johannageisel5390
@johannageisel5390 3 күн бұрын
I think they are twins. Just look at how their faces are basically the same.
@toweypat
@toweypat 3 күн бұрын
@@johannageisel5390 But they aren't dressed alike.
@DexysTakumi
@DexysTakumi 4 ай бұрын
You don't mean... THE SPIDER PEOPLE FUCKING KILLED MY SON AND GAVE YOU HIS PENDANT?!!
@iamdanieloliveira
@iamdanieloliveira 4 ай бұрын
I always wondered why so many authors "thought that their audience was stupid" and felt the need to be extremely obvious and heavy handed with foreshadowing and exposition, until the day I read a series of books where nothing was just "handed" to you: you actually had to analize the events and theorize in order to figure out what was going on behind the scenes. It was all extremely clever and made figuring out the plot twists extremely rewarding. Turns out, the entire early plot went over most people's heads and the series was labelled "confusing" and "convoluted". Some people couldn't even figure out the plot twists AFTER they had already been revealed and kept theorizing about things that had already been explained chapters before. TLDR: the reason authors treat their readers as if they're stupid is that most of them actually are.
@undinae
@undinae 3 ай бұрын
But what was the book series you refer to? I might be interested to read. And if anyone wants to read books without heavy handed plot twists, I recommend Lois McMaster Bujold (and particularly her 5 Gods series for the fantasy side). Not saying there aren't plot twists, they just aren't heavy handed in my opinion. And bad tropes are avoided for the most part.
@findyourcenterbbc8483
@findyourcenterbbc8483 3 ай бұрын
Yeah what is this book series
@iamcleaver6854
@iamcleaver6854 3 ай бұрын
What is the book called? I want to give it a go
@theAsperist
@theAsperist 3 ай бұрын
Is there a reason you didn't include the name of the series? Do you want us to take your clues and find it ourselves? 😂
@bond-potter-morriarti7194
@bond-potter-morriarti7194 3 ай бұрын
Yeah, what gives? 😂
@thor_brosen
@thor_brosen 4 ай бұрын
Maybe the real plot twist was the friends we made along the way.
@dry4smash946
@dry4smash946 4 ай бұрын
of course a person with a sans pfp would say that
@thor_brosen
@thor_brosen 4 ай бұрын
@@dry4smash946 pretty sure someone said that exact thing to me on discord a few days ago.
@cara-seyun
@cara-seyun 4 ай бұрын
“Could it be? You’re also a mistborn fan as well?!”
@Trepur349
@Trepur349 4 ай бұрын
There was a book I really liked that by far the biggest problem I had with it was all the giant neon signs pointing towards the fact that the main character, who grew up in an orphanage, turns out to be the lost princess. What annoyed me about it wasn't that the plot twist was so obvious from the first time the royal family got brought up, what annoyed me was it was so obvious that I don't understand how any of the characters didn't figure it out earlier
@asaipuol
@asaipuol 3 ай бұрын
The thing is, even with all that it's not unlikely for the characters to not guess it. Because you know that they are special (they’re the main characters of the book, after all!) But here, Ableon has no reason to suppose the boy is more special than the one next to him (other that he spent time with him). He doesn't know he is a book character and that the author must have paired him with that boy for a reason, or that all the coincidences are less coincidental than the rest of what he sees everyday, and are actually foreshadowing planted by an author who has planned all of the story. The problem in the video is not that they don't guess, it's all the constant random allusions ("Oh you can lick your elbow! Just like your moth- my wife!" ) making it obvious while at the same time it's treated like a big mystery that's drawn out for 2000 pages.
@Trepur349
@Trepur349 3 ай бұрын
@@asaipuol I mean the first few times it got brought up you can understand why the two characters don't realize they're father and son But oh you have the same name as my son, you're about the same age as my son, you were found 1 block away from where my son died, you have my wifes eyes. I mean any one of those could be a coincidence I guess but at some point it's so obvious that the characters have to realize And I know this video was more complaining about the plot twist being obvious to the reader then characters not realizing the plot twist, but I'm not that bothered when I can see a plot twist coming, I am bothered when a character should know better but doesn't
@artem8193
@artem8193 4 ай бұрын
“If I wasn’t obsessed with goodreads I would have stoped reading this book a long time ago” is way too accurate.
@brightwatcher3757
@brightwatcher3757 4 ай бұрын
OH YES CANT SACRIFICE THE GOODREADS CRED
@meganfoster8838
@meganfoster8838 4 ай бұрын
Some advice I once read was that if your main goal was to surprise your readers with a cool idea, you'd probably flop, but if you wanted focus on the characters and bring them to life, then it wouldn't matter if your idea was surprising or not. I also think plot twists get too much focus and leads to authors pulling solutions out of thin air instead of building up to things properly.
@higztv1166
@higztv1166 4 ай бұрын
Sad we didn't get to see the plot twist to find out why the author was in his house this whole time
@katherinekellmeyer5428
@katherinekellmeyer5428 4 ай бұрын
After all, the author *did* say "you'll just have to keep reading to find out" -- then he doesn't follow through? disappointing :D
@33pandagamer
@33pandagamer 3 ай бұрын
Plot Twist, The Auther is the Reader's son
@NCC_74656
@NCC_74656 4 ай бұрын
Imagine if the "son" was the "father's" father.
@Pinkstarclan
@Pinkstarclan 4 ай бұрын
I would 100% read a book that was JUST this for 600 pages and then the twist is theyre NOT related
@raha3617
@raha3617 4 ай бұрын
What if the “son” was just someone they hired to spy on the king, and the plot twist is that we’re following the villain.
@AliasPhex
@AliasPhex 4 ай бұрын
I am not sure if they are meant to sound cliche or not, but I’m actually enjoying these character and place names in the video. They feel homey and lived in.
@kg30004
@kg30004 4 ай бұрын
The fine balance of making it obvious ONLY in hindsight
@michaelsamerdyke108
@michaelsamerdyke108 4 ай бұрын
"Raised by the spider-people of the central forest." -- That made me laugh.
@joelhaggis5054
@joelhaggis5054 3 ай бұрын
3:08 "What is it Fath- uh, Ableon?"
@KennyFrierson
@KennyFrierson 4 ай бұрын
Well nevermind is the most amazing line in reading and people should use it more
@theAsperist
@theAsperist 3 ай бұрын
Yea it drives me crazy
@SigFigNewton
@SigFigNewton 4 ай бұрын
I genuinely expected this video to have the following plot twist: they *weren’t* father and son and the author had a truly clever explanation
@vibrantebony
@vibrantebony 2 ай бұрын
The prince knew he was his father the whole time I swear-
@Mightyjordy
@Mightyjordy 4 ай бұрын
I literally just read a book like this. There's a scene where the guy is flirting with the woman who killed his family (she's in disguise for most of the book) and he literally says something along the lines of "yeah, a person would have to be an idiot to flirt with someone who killed their whole family". This is like 2 scenes after we've met her and the reveal at the end of the book is literally painful to read because of how clever it thinks it is. This video gave me ptsd
@SolvNia
@SolvNia 2 ай бұрын
Same here! It's a fantasy story where the heroine doesn't know who her father is and her grandfather is actively keeping the info away from her. When the story reaches the point where the identity of her father becomes too relevant to ignore, they go "Well, I only tell you the last name because I promised your grandpa not to tell you and I want to keep my promise at least somehow." So the last name happens to be the same as a famous lord from the neighbour country but they immediately add that the country has some kind of weird naming law that everyone who serves a lord has to take on his last name, so she probably is the daughter of one of the servants. However, this naming practice would be so impractical and confusing that it's painfully obvious that the author is just trying to hide the "plot twist", that the girl is actually that lord's daughter, until the end of the book. There's even another plot twist in that book that logically would've been cleared up in the first half of the story, but the author's reasoning why that didn't happen opened up other plot holes. I could really tell that the author wanted to have certain scenes and unusccessfully tried to bent the plot to accommodate it.
@Ardam44
@Ardam44 4 ай бұрын
Your acting was very good. For a moment, it really felt like I was watching a story start.
@Melancholy_Chill
@Melancholy_Chill 4 ай бұрын
That Nhar-kun should be careful, if him falling causing so much global problems
@genericallyentertaining
@genericallyentertaining 4 ай бұрын
He's a clumsy guy.
@d33ps3a_3ntity
@d33ps3a_3ntity 4 ай бұрын
IT’S ALWAYS A FREAKING PENDANT. EVERY SINGLE TIME AN AUTHOR GOES FOR THIS TWIST.
@isadoranurdin4402
@isadoranurdin4402 3 ай бұрын
I uhh... *Gulp* may or may not have used a magical amulet to reveal my protagonist's backstory... I didn't know it was a cliché, forgive me 🥲
@d33ps3a_3ntity
@d33ps3a_3ntity 3 ай бұрын
@@isadoranurdin4402tropes are completely fine if I didn’t clarify that! You can’t have a story without at least one or two, and they shouldn’t be something to be avoided as long as you’re adding a spin to them or writing an original plot as a whole!
@Cartoonicus
@Cartoonicus 4 ай бұрын
This kinda thing always makes me paranoid about my own work.
@kiritokazuto2398
@kiritokazuto2398 4 ай бұрын
"If I was less obsessed about my goodreads I would have quit this by now." Relatable.
@matthewlazaric3543
@matthewlazaric3543 4 ай бұрын
I feel like when a book was written in 1917 it gets a bit of a pass for being predictable, especially something as heavily drawn from as John carter of mars.
@easolinas1233
@easolinas1233 4 ай бұрын
Yeah, books that created or predated the popularity of tropes get a pass. I remember when the "Lord of the Rings" movies came out, some illiterate dolts claimed that it was "cliche."
@genericallyentertaining
@genericallyentertaining 4 ай бұрын
You know, fair enough. My gripe with this trope in that series (in the second book, I believe; it's been a while since I read it ) is more about how long the "reveal" was dragged on for. And even given how influential John Carter was, it's not like those books invented the "orphaned child finds long-lost father" trope,. so I seriously doubt the original audience was totally wet-behind-the-ears regarding it.
@SPDYellow
@SPDYellow 4 ай бұрын
@@easolinas1233People who make those arguments about LOTR are usually thinking about the cheap knockoffs of LOTR and ignore the nuances that Tolkien brought to the table. Yes, Gimli was a bearded dwarf who wielded an axe, loved gold and minerals, and was prejudiced against elves, but he also had something of a warrior poet in him.
@tomvandalen2212
@tomvandalen2212 2 ай бұрын
@@SPDYellow I am reading LOTR for the first time and Gimli is so much more than just a warrior poet. He is one of the benchmarks. He literally is willing to get beef with Eomér just because the Lord says he is distrusting of Galadriel. He carries so much grace and intensity that sets him apart from the Elves and humans. I even sometimes spot autistic(am one myself) vibes with the way he hones in on specific details. My favorite part is that he spends about one-and-a-half books cutting wood with an axe(Tolkien loves describing breakfast, dawn/dusk, and Gimli making campfire) and then Gimli comments himself on the fact that the battle at helmsdeep finally gave him some reprieve from hacking wood. And Gimli also just does lore dumps with so much genuine enthusiasm that you can follow along. I am really salty how much they dumped down Legolas(less of an issue since at least he got athletic feats) and Gimli. Even Merry and Pippin so far got cool moments in the book(just got past the journey to Isengard) with Merry having properly studied the maps in order to dare traverse Fangorn and Pippin being extremely quick-witted under pressure. I also am understanding less and less off how they changed Aragorn. People always say how Aragorn is too much of a Mary Sue and at times he does seem a cut above everyone else. However, in the books he has good flaws and he doubts a lot. Just because Aragorn is competing with Gandalf and Elves doesn't make him a Mary Sue imo. I doubly dislike the changes to movie Aragorn because they then also had to make Boromir and Aragorn at odds. In the books Boromir and Aragorn were planning to travel to Minas Tirith. That plan obviously got changed after Gandalf yeeted himself in Moria, Boromir died and Merry+Pippin had to be saved. Oh god and in the place where Boromir dies, Frodo is so much more of a hero. He straight up decides to just sneak out and abandon everyone without having to speak to Aragorn. In the movies it doesn't feel as heroic(tbf Elijah Wood got bad directing) because Aragorn makes the decision with Frodo. That's what the movies sometimes miss out on. Tolkien understood how to have characters behave heroically.
@alexoblivion9295
@alexoblivion9295 4 ай бұрын
PLOT TWIST: Sarah Michelle Gellar gives birth to a bastard goat demon on top of an actual arc reactor, the blood acting as its fuel, imploding the machine backwards through time and space, the presumed son was actually the father the whole time, while the presumed father was actually the son the whole time. The spider people were writing this story into existence as time deconstructed itself. Time was never moving forward, it was always moving backward this whole time.
@RorikH
@RorikH 4 ай бұрын
Thank you! It feels like no one in this comment section actually read the damn book before commenting.
@alexoblivion9295
@alexoblivion9295 4 ай бұрын
​@@RorikHit's still being written. In the year 2525. BC.
@fcornejo162
@fcornejo162 4 ай бұрын
that is way i love the foundation series, the plot twisted so hard that even the passage of time was ruthless
@giuseppeparry1365
@giuseppeparry1365 4 ай бұрын
Tbf it probably IS just a coincidence. Unless there's a fountain of youth in this world, I'd say they both look the same age.
@narisevansangynriivaama9903
@narisevansangynriivaama9903 4 ай бұрын
Your acting has really come a long way. You also seem to be much more comfortable on camera. Nice work.
@scientistbird
@scientistbird 4 ай бұрын
I remember reading the "feed" series by pseudonymous author Mira Grant, which I still think of as the worst books I ever read. They have a plot twist SO OBVIOUS that I was in disbelief that it was supposed to be one. The narrator had to outright state that this was a revelation. All previous hints had been so obvious and thickly buttered that I thought anyone reading while not falling asleep must have noticed. (I do not recognize reading this trilogy. It's a series written about several subjects that the author doesn't understand, using constant repetition to fill word count, and characters constantly self-congratulating themselves on their greatness because the author doesn't notice how incompetent they are)
@Pers0n97
@Pers0n97 3 ай бұрын
When the foreshadowing is so heavy handed it's foredarknessing.
@Cityweaver
@Cityweaver 3 ай бұрын
A plot twist IS a thing. Obvious shit, at this point, let's just keep it obvious. When Kung Fu Panda has Po, the only giant panda in town, meets another giant panda, who was previously seen having a vision that his son was alive, that's plot. The joke of everyone knowing they are father and son before they figure it out is built into the plot. The plot twist/reveal that Oogway happily assumed the Universe really did send Po to him because he learned the basis of kung fu from pandas 500 years ago, THAT is a reveal that actually reshapes how we view the entire story.
@y-tiplex
@y-tiplex 4 ай бұрын
I was hoping that the real plot twist was that his actual father killed the king's son but then when his baby started crying he pulled him out from the wrap on his back and started reasurring him then looking between his baby and the dead baby on the ground. only then he realized the horrors of what he'd done and decided to leave his baby in the cave as an offering to their gods for forgiveness for his harsh act hoping his own suffering at a lost of his son would equal out his actions in the eyes of their gods so they might spare him.
@isadoranurdin4402
@isadoranurdin4402 3 ай бұрын
Damn 😮
@nikhilgarg9618
@nikhilgarg9618 4 ай бұрын
Actually, the prince was not kidnapped at all. Ableyon had hidden the prince in a secret chamber to protect him, but the pendant accidentally dropped and they forgot about that. The attackers had found another baby outside the castle. They took that kid and the pendant. When the kid grew up he found that the only way to escape was to use the pendant which had magic powers. He stole the pendant, escaped and killed hundreds of guards. The king 's brother was also one of the guards. So ableyon decided to find the person who killed his brother. He claimed his son was dead so that no one could harm him. But he was starting to suspect who his companion was and was just waiting for the right time to attack and kill him.
@ルハイダーダアゴナー
@ルハイダーダアゴナー 3 ай бұрын
Yep, definitely have seen these obvious plot twists in so many fictional media lol. I’m so at the point where I’m impressed if I can’t see the plot twist coming.
@Vesper-
@Vesper- Күн бұрын
"If I was less obsessive about my goodreads I would've quit this book by now." got me
@theylivewesleep.5139
@theylivewesleep.5139 4 ай бұрын
“Ablaion the 9th they called me” He says that like he doesn’t know why they called him “the 9th”.
@annabellwoods2799
@annabellwoods2799 4 ай бұрын
finishing a book just to put it on goodreads? relatable af
@Trepur349
@Trepur349 4 ай бұрын
I've listened to audiobooks at 3.5x speed before just so I could claim I finished the book on GoodReads
@jacksonharris7079
@jacksonharris7079 4 ай бұрын
thank you for existing and being on my internetubething
@tripwire202
@tripwire202 4 ай бұрын
Internetubething is a glorious word. Can I borrow it?
@Bill-oj6vj
@Bill-oj6vj 3 ай бұрын
same pendant... could it be..... THAT DARN JEWLERY SHOP LIED TO ME, THEY SAID IT WAS ONE-OF-A-KIND
@LordJazzly
@LordJazzly 4 ай бұрын
I sort of _like_ this, though It's the narrative equivalent of playing a huge dramatic musical string over the first kiss in a romantic comedy, and that's just good clean -insanity- fun.
@bross92
@bross92 4 ай бұрын
Honestly I would love to see the "author" character return in future episodes, legit made me laugh so much
@landonkryger
@landonkryger 4 ай бұрын
The Fifth Season did this for me.
@StopFear
@StopFear 4 ай бұрын
You know. I think any of us who have ever read a book should feel guilt that we aren’t attempting to write. Those of us who have read a book or two, or even if we read many book synopsis’s have seen books that are either simply poorly written, or books that have atrocious plots. It should indicate to many of us that at least an attempt should be made because if shitty books get published so often, how much worse can you be?
@ananas_6029
@ananas_6029 4 ай бұрын
That's actually motivating
@lexabexa
@lexabexa 3 ай бұрын
I like to assume the author is trying to mislead me with such painfully obvious foreshadowing only to reveal a cool twist later. I mean I’m usually wrong, but it’s fun while it lasts
@andrewk9267
@andrewk9267 4 ай бұрын
I'm in a bizarre spot where I've consumed so much sci-fi/fantasy over my life that I'm actually a little concerned that I'm over-aware of genre tropes. A Memory Called Empire was one of the my favorite recent sci-fi works, I called that it would win the Hugo. But the sequel, A Desolation Called Peace, had a """twist""" that was extremely obvious from the beginning of the book to someone who has read lots of other sci-fi. And it got my seriously questioning, was the twist really super obvious, the author thought she was on to something really novel/clever even though she wasn't? Or have I have just read THAT much sci-fi? I've definitely been touching grass for a while since then
@dragonetafireball
@dragonetafireball 4 ай бұрын
Me when a child raising Manhua is years into uploading weekly and had time skipped to adulthood and they still won’t admit that her adopted parent(s) are just her bio parent(s) which had been obvious since chapter 2 and you just now the creator is going to drop the series before they get to the reveal
@whosaidiwantedahandle
@whosaidiwantedahandle 3 ай бұрын
When the Prince was kidnapped, he must have dropped his pendant on the side of the road right where the protagonist had been left.
@mandiechase3308
@mandiechase3308 3 ай бұрын
"If I was less obsessive about my goodreads, I would've quit this book by now." LITERALLY ME!
@Sooparch
@Sooparch 3 ай бұрын
‘Just gonna keep edging for 500 more pages’
@kuroyuki6254
@kuroyuki6254 4 ай бұрын
The plot twist is that they AREN'T father and son
@katarinacarrico7887
@katarinacarrico7887 4 ай бұрын
3:21 I have made that same expression at my books, glad I'm not the only one.
@ComedyPlastic
@ComedyPlastic 4 ай бұрын
Excellent author representation (I'm behind your curtains)
@skilamalink
@skilamalink 3 ай бұрын
This reminds me of a book I read where it constantly hinted that the protagonist was the lost prince, only to reveal at the very end that the lost prince was in fact a random member of the protagonist’s friend group. And the protagonist was an unrelated unethical child solider science experiment from the previous war. I felt so betrayed
@NoSleep4780
@NoSleep4780 3 ай бұрын
The blacklist comes to mind when I think of "they're extremely obviously parent/child, just reveal it already"
@e443productions9
@e443productions9 4 ай бұрын
I read the book Renegades by Marissa Meyer and literally every plot point was exactly like that and somehow she managed to make all of these reveals occur only after the third book in the trilogy
@Atrulion
@Atrulion 3 ай бұрын
This is like the book that won in a school competition because it had "so much foreshadowing"
@nothri
@nothri 3 ай бұрын
Plot twist: The spiders killed his son and gave that guy the pendant.
@Tser
@Tser 2 ай бұрын
"If I wasn't so obsessive about my GoodReads..." LOL
@potatoheadpokemario1931
@potatoheadpokemario1931 4 ай бұрын
The twist is he's not the father
@MakeItHappen505
@MakeItHappen505 3 ай бұрын
It would be hilarious if an author did this and then revealed that they WEREN'T related. Make the boy a regular peasent or something who thought he was secretly a lost prince, then introduce the real prince so he realizes he isn't special.
@acksawblack
@acksawblack 4 ай бұрын
This is why I had to stop reading manga when I left high school, it was around the time Isekai gained popularity. Litterally an entire genre of fiction based upon repeating the same story 😂. Main character: terrible person and most likely a basement dweller is killed, transported to a pre renaissance mediaeval kingdom. Kingdom seems good at first but in reality is some awful secret at work. Introduce beast men races who are segregated in society. The Mc saves some elf women and have a will they won’t they relationship for the rest of the series. Also genuinely why I dropped the wheel of time, I got to book 6 and started to feel it litterally was a wheel keeping me trapped like Sisyphus
@annabellwoods2799
@annabellwoods2799 4 ай бұрын
"what is fa- Blion" i died
@Annie.s_Galaxy_404
@Annie.s_Galaxy_404 3 ай бұрын
if he's been standing there for hours, you've been reading for hours. i do too
@OverthinkingStories
@OverthinkingStories 4 ай бұрын
The Spider-people aspect sounded cool though.
@PixelPenguin77
@PixelPenguin77 4 ай бұрын
wait, does that mean that him and the lost king's son went to the same jewlery shop?
@genericallyentertaining
@genericallyentertaining 4 ай бұрын
Apparently so! Funny how these things happen.
@mainquestlift
@mainquestlift 3 ай бұрын
Plot twist, the reader is actually the author with amnesia who’s hallucinating his past self
@serpenttailedangel
@serpenttailedangel 2 ай бұрын
"If I was less obsessive about my goodreads, I would have quit this book by now" cut deep
@tomvandalen2212
@tomvandalen2212 2 ай бұрын
Why do people get obsessed about goodreads? I thought it was some recommendation site for books? Does it have social media points?
@serpenttailedangel
@serpenttailedangel 2 ай бұрын
@@tomvandalen2212 It encourages you to set annual reading goals that the site will then track as a feature that is definitely motivated to promote more reading in the same vein as kid's summer reading programs with the library, and totally not a subtle nudge by the Amazon-owned website to buy those books the site is recommending (and linking to the Amazon listing for) in order to hit said reading goals. The goal is specifically for books completed, meaning a book that you give on up at the 3/4 point doesn't help you hit your quota. No real problem aside from a tangible, online reminder of how you've effectively failed a New Year's resolution, although the site does have forums, the ability to add other users as friends, and the ability for those friends to see that you've failed your New Year's resolution.
@penitenteyeball
@penitenteyeball 3 ай бұрын
Bro got eyelashes like Néstor Carbonell
@yourlocalfemboywastaken
@yourlocalfemboywastaken 3 ай бұрын
this is like: "Do you mean Batman is Bruce Wayne's roommate?"
@rowan404
@rowan404 4 ай бұрын
This is why I don’t like movies with “twist” villains. It makes the oblivious characters look stupid and I feel like yelling at the screen for the next hour or so. One example that annoys me to this day is Evelyn Devor from The Incredibles 2. I mean, _Evil Endeavor?_ Come on…
@meelsky
@meelsky 4 ай бұрын
An example of this kind of thing done well is in the tales of the five kingdoms series by vivian french, I figured out the twist from the clues but it didn’t ruin the book, it just made me excited for the characters to figure it out.
@BrendonSmall456
@BrendonSmall456 3 ай бұрын
Super obvious foreshadowing functions like a meet cute for blood relatives
@Gracie-xd9ru
@Gracie-xd9ru 3 ай бұрын
“You almost have her eyes” 😂😂😂
@gaha-eu5wd
@gaha-eu5wd 3 ай бұрын
Plot twist: he is not the son and the dad is a ghost that can soot mental breakdown rays
@Remembery
@Remembery 3 ай бұрын
I would definitely enjoy that . . . But not that long.
@littlefiddlechick1513
@littlefiddlechick1513 3 ай бұрын
Can you review the book Mr. Fix It and Miss Sue by Hannah Cruz?
@momochora
@momochora 3 ай бұрын
after the pendant i thought it was gonna go "you or your spider people must have killed my son and stolen this!" swear ive actually seen that but cant recall where
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