When Does a Player Become an Eve Online Vet?

[@backbone666]

I feel you become an EVE vet when you have a story to tell new players. Bonus points if a game change prevents that story from happening again.

[@Davelantor]

Started first around 2006 .. Was among the first people to dive into WH space, spent stupidly an entire week with one account, while exploring other WH and documenting them. How they change over time, what new WHs open up etc. Lived in WH space for almost a year, with all the POS bells and whistles. Got my carebear certiificate along the way, was a low sec slug, 0 sec experience started as part of a org that rented a system, from there I moved to be a security spec. fleet recon, tactician for fleet movement. Was part of the Northern Coalition, later on moved into the old fart corp of RAZOR. At some point decided to slowly retire, moved back to high sec. got into a default caldari corp. living in a high sec system that is separated with a low sec system. Naturally its VERY quiet. Enjoying retirement by time to time since 2018, looking into the news from time to time. Got into Star Citizen. Even made custom spreadsheets for trading and mining locations, and for doing the math on finding the Aaron Halo belt from any location. Needless to say, I will likely spend 15 years in that aswell

[@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.]

I was called a bittervet at 3 months. It isn't a matter of time, it is a state of being.

[@Cheesy_Garlic_Bread]

Started in 2004, when I was a teen. Watched the fall of bob, defended our territory with a 400 man alliance from goon, became a diplomat just in time to meet Vile Rat, but to late to ever speak to him again, taught several new corps the ropes of nullsec in the curse region, my old stomping grounds. Transported on of the only ishkur bpo’s in the game (at least at the time, I’m not sure if there’s any others now). Made many good friends. Eve taught me a lot about economics. It’s a bitch to start playing if you don’t have a friend, but it’s a fun game. You get what you put into it. I believe you become a vet when you begin to understand the nuance of the strategies and can speak with gravitas to new players. It usually takes players a few years imo.

[@Davelantor]

Razor old fart here o/ good times

[@jaymorrison2419]

Yeah, I think the "I can do this well enough to teach others to a level of competency" is an excellent benchmark. I can tell you hours of details about Incursions, L4 mission running, and HS/LS mining, but ask me about WH space and exploration and Im getting lost the 2nd jump I take. A simpler benchmark I'd also use is "You screwed up SO badly, that you feel like you owe your self an AAR (after action report)" to use as a teaching tool.

[@admiralcrom]

Your a Vet when, "You join the bot fleets", "Complete a 50 ship roam and no one got any kills", "Lay in wait for 10 hours + just to gatecamp a gate no one uses"

[@65BAJA]

You have to win EVE then come back. That makes you a vet.

[@keldon_champion]

I have played on and off for a long time and I have come to the conclusion that being a veteran is entirely skill dependant and I would say you could be at that level in a few months or never at all. I will say though a minimum requirement for any activity is to be humbled by getting fucked over because you think you know better. You can't really be a veteran until you understand the game well enough to know you don't (and likely never will) know everything and this is what teaches you that. This is the moment you can call yourself a vet in an activity, when you have achieved a high level of expertise at it but have also failed enough to know there is no level that you're too good to fail.

[@GamerGrrls]

Really good definition!

[@drfill9210]

I presume when they find a sick animal and give it a comprehensive treatment plan?

[@GamerGrrls]

Don't worry, there were a few of those answers in the survey. They just didn't make it to the video.

[@dutchgunner1533]

I quess I'm one of those living fossils as I've been playing since 2003. I am in favour of 'vet status' being ability based where you reached the point you can teach others. My suggestion for the next question: do people still think the 'eve learning curve graph' is true/accurate when you are trying something new within the game?

[@GamerGrrls]

Oh! That's a good question!

[@meerschaum1111]

WHAT. THE. HELL. It's like an SNL kid's show parody.

[@KeeperOfTheSevenKeys.]

No sir, internet spaceships are serious business.

[@dennisdeal3323]

I do not know when one becomes a vet, but I do have some stories already. But do not feel anywhere close to being able to guide or make suggestions. As for a question. How did you get ganked the first time? Follow up question. Was it successful or did you manage to get away in time?

[@GamerGrrls]

Another really good question!

[@davidlester6673]

A veteran is a has been. Been there done that and come back.

[@tiltti]

It took 6yrs to called bittervet :)