Where does Queer belong in Hip Hop? (Part 1)

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Fat Charlie

Fat Charlie

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@kamayasimone502
@kamayasimone502 2 ай бұрын
Calling ur kid the f slur is actually wild…
@0vern9K
@0vern9K 2 ай бұрын
F slur bro stop😭, act like mfs pre 2020 wasn’t saying ts regularly. Y’all treat that shi like it’s saying Nig### or some shi
@COOKIEM260
@COOKIEM260 2 ай бұрын
​@@0vern9K I mean....it is like saying that. What is the difference? Both of those words are used to degrade people of a specific group.
@0vern9K
@0vern9K 2 ай бұрын
African Americans dealt with slavery what are you talking about bro. The word originated from there and was a spin on something used to dehumanize us. Most slaves didn’t even have names their birth certificates just said YOU KNOW WHAT and with the R. Unless the “ master “ gave them a name Comparing that to calling someone a phag something that was genuinely used as comical or a jokingly insult to a friend. not even 10+ years ago. I don’t expect anyone here to have played cod tho… but With no history like slavery is concerning. These 2 words aren’t in the same stratosphere as far as history and meaning.
@0vern9K
@0vern9K 2 ай бұрын
F slur💀
@HudsonDoesYoutube
@HudsonDoesYoutube 2 ай бұрын
@@0vern9K oh but it was a terrible slur even in the 90s and it is very offensive. Saying the lgbtq community hasn’t been through as bad as African Americans is simply not true. They have similar stories and have been treated badly for a very long time. Just because you think the word isn’t as bad doesn’t mean that’s true. It’s still associated with a long history of hate. Ever since medieval times, and possibly forever, gay/trans/queer people existed and were tortured and killed. History differences shouldn’t justify saying a slur isn’t “that bad” as it is still hateful and offensive. I’m not arguing, I’m just telling you about the similarities and why you shouldn’t use either words.
@thiskittyhasthumbs
@thiskittyhasthumbs 2 ай бұрын
Whats sad about LNX is he was so supported when Old town road came out. But asa he came out, he was treated like he was a brand new person. All that love and support immediately vanished. Its insane, and I hate it.
@masxedsyfirspyrul9189
@masxedsyfirspyrul9189 2 ай бұрын
Yea I’m sure his devil worshiping gimmicks had nothing to do with it…
@DanielJacobs-rz1zl
@DanielJacobs-rz1zl 2 ай бұрын
​@@masxedsyfirspyrul9189People were hating on him being even before that.
@lizanya6433
@lizanya6433 Ай бұрын
i hated lil nas x before he came out and still do. and i’m a gay man and i hated old town road so when i say this don’t think i’m homophobic or nothing he rebranded after he came out. his new brand consisting of devil antics just isn’t appealing and never had longevity. it was played out before he even started. and i’m an atheist and will always be first in line to make fun of religion but his devil stuff was just corny. it was just for shock value and he didn’t accomplish anything because of it. all he did was piss off conservative news channels which is like… whatever? everyone knows they’re homophobic he didn’t end homophobia or something. truly a “fork found in kitchen” moment.
@lizanya6433
@lizanya6433 18 күн бұрын
@@cinemachronic i was literally just giving my opinion. devil stuff is played out, even when straight women do it. also i never said anything about his sound. the fact he sounds the same as that EP just shows that artistically he has not evolved and all the devil antics were just for shock value. idk what i’m “reaching” about? devil stuff has been done for billions of years, i’m simply not gagging anymore. why are you trying to argue against my opinion? you can like him, but he has rung that religious rag DRY.
@innerrhymes7454
@innerrhymes7454 2 ай бұрын
As a Queer Hip-hop artist myself, it makes me happy to see this topic being covered. Much power to you.
@TheNoirAlien
@TheNoirAlien 2 ай бұрын
Drop the link ❤
@myahbrimmer4616
@myahbrimmer4616 2 ай бұрын
Currently listening to the most recent video you have on the channel. Definetely a vibe I rock with, keep it up!
@GooberCompany
@GooberCompany Ай бұрын
listened to you, from a friend of a friend, you make great music, my friend. hope you get recognition 🤗
@jar-jar3806
@jar-jar3806 2 ай бұрын
As a white guy im glad KZbin finally putting me onto some game algorithmically. I swear they want us to go far right on purpose. Thanks for the video
@aby110
@aby110 2 ай бұрын
These algorithms fascistic af ngl
@thescoobymike
@thescoobymike 2 ай бұрын
Yeah nah the algorithm creating some monsters fr
@omfgitsme
@omfgitsme Ай бұрын
nah deadass 😂
@rosecity_chris
@rosecity_chris 2 ай бұрын
My bro in law asked me if it was gay to put lotion on ya ass. We got a long way to go lol
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
yoooooo!!! lmao
@boinqity4621
@boinqity4621 2 ай бұрын
fellas is it gay to make yourself presentable for a woman
@imtired3861
@imtired3861 2 ай бұрын
What did you say back?
@BrocksJellyFilledDoughnuts
@BrocksJellyFilledDoughnuts 2 ай бұрын
Ashy cheeks is actually crazy 😭 Bro your whole body is glossy and your booty just has a matte finish HELP.
@czxr_8
@czxr_8 2 ай бұрын
The worst part about this is that this feels like a new thing. You would get clowned for being ashy. Now it’s gay lol. Masculinity really be changing from generation to generation with the memory of a goldfish
@micah459
@micah459 2 ай бұрын
Don't know if it was intentional but calling Boosie "Bussy" is crazy 😂
@ireqsavagevocaldinosaur5795
@ireqsavagevocaldinosaur5795 Ай бұрын
“Bussy” was definitely on purpose lmao
@dapac09
@dapac09 2 ай бұрын
My only complaint about the make up is that I feel like the lip stick doesn't appeal to your skin tone.
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
oh i fully agree- its horrible- lol its just the only shade that would show up on camera.
@dapac09
@dapac09 2 ай бұрын
@@FatCharlie215 the little shit you have to consider to get on camera #thatpart
@beecareful69
@beecareful69 2 ай бұрын
​@@FatCharlie215now I'm imagining you camera testing multiple shades... ☺️
@FabulousKilljoy
@FabulousKilljoy 2 ай бұрын
I was about to get mad at you until I saw it 😭
@Jesusis_black
@Jesusis_black 2 ай бұрын
I think it just needs a brown lip liner
@Qdelilah
@Qdelilah 2 ай бұрын
When you spoke about the "gangster" thugs on grindr it's very true. As a gay man who grew up in the hood the most loudest most vocal men about gays and the lgbtqia be the ones you see cruising in the parks after dark in a sheisty or a blank profile on a gay app🥴🥴🥴😏😏😏and usually not all the time but the biggest bottom around 🤣🤣😆ppl think to be gay you have to be flying rainbows and wearing makeup. But in regular life its the guy with the regular job who listens to hardcore rap and still be the gayest man ever behind closed doors. Ppl think you can be only stereotypically gay while also knowing its Dl/trade men out here and understanding that gayness/queerness doesn't just fit into one category its many types of gay and way to be gay/queer.
@aby110
@aby110 2 ай бұрын
Oh yeah as a "straight passing" gay man, there is an entire layer of gay men that most people are incapable of seeing through. They be freaky af on top of it.
@solitude1x
@solitude1x 2 ай бұрын
I remmber when ASAP Rocky and Lil BABY were accused of getting finger and ate out by that 1 IG model. It was not necesarily a queer rapper thing but you know how things were spun. Baby threatened legal actions too. "Drop sum acid and top a twink and BOOM a new man" was real af LMFAO
@extraterrestrial8888
@extraterrestrial8888 2 ай бұрын
I (as a bi man) feel like most of rap is just posturing and posing. I have a sneaking suspicion that most artists aren't the trappers and murderers they claim to be, but they're all putting on a show. I don't see why a gay or bi or pan or trans or whatever person wouldn't be able to do that too. While yes, homophobia is ingrained in the system, many artists outside of said system (Tyler and Frank, for instance, and I know Frank isn't a rapper but his fans are all in that general mediasphere) have still seen crazy success.
@spacedoutcowboy5211
@spacedoutcowboy5211 2 ай бұрын
It's been a show since the start honestly. Doc Dre is barely street adjacent at the time NWA was created. And Jay-z isn't even from NYC
@marcusdavis5599
@marcusdavis5599 2 ай бұрын
Lol. No shit to the first half.
@xiuyxy
@xiuyxy 2 ай бұрын
Definitely, if it's publicly announced, to certain extent marketed towards a certain audience, it's okay to assume it's exaggerated or enhanced to appeal. Although cases can always be individual. Not every queer person is built the same way. Not every queer person will be eloquent, extroverted and or charismatic enough to paint their internal image well for everyone who might pull their eyes into their work, therefore; not everyone will make an impression that matters in media. When someone outs themselves (And I don't find the term outing to be nice at all, just like how Tyler expresses... "why does it matter?". People often feel entitled to knowing those details they might be morbidly interested in) there is risk, inherently social spaces have variety of opinions on anything. But when somebody already worked on that first impression with their art, before their identity and s**uality come out, I would say has a better chance of having a better outcome. I'm not sure if you have seen it happen in real-time, but when someone represents themselves transparently from the beginning, there might be lots of discouragement, as well as rejection. Leading to nobody wanting to look back at them again. If they held their life details (and this can be about anything that's not commonly talked about openly), could be better.. but sometimes with queer folks, it draws the attention of bad actors. Those who might see "feminine persona.. but masculine looks.. bad", draw their conclussions and try to get people on board with the negative impression they made to themselves. It's definitely not something just about anybody gives themselves the luxury to do at least online. Although, in the right places; it's nice to finally be able to portray yourself as you see yourself from inside. That's one part of the beauty in art.
@killmyparanoia
@killmyparanoia 2 ай бұрын
frank is definitely a rapper
@burninghammerstudios7033
@burninghammerstudios7033 2 ай бұрын
@@spacedoutcowboy5211 wait were is he from then cause google says hes from brooklyn
@FishareFriendsNotFood972
@FishareFriendsNotFood972 2 ай бұрын
You did good on the makeup! It takes a lot of practice, but you have the spirit. And great point about Tyler's old work reflecting how staying in the closet can be corrosive and lead to a lot of internalized misogyny, coming out can have so many fringe benefits, a big one being healing one's relationship with gender.
@DaNewWaveLee
@DaNewWaveLee 2 ай бұрын
Tyler isn’t queer tho. I think only true fans understand most of his work is taping into a different persona to tell a story.
@snazzydrew
@snazzydrew 2 ай бұрын
Black and queer and wildly proud of it. Took nme awhile to be able to come to terms with my black identity due to treatment from my fellow black folks. 😢
@TheNoirAlien
@TheNoirAlien 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I experienced that. We are strong than these pretenders. ❤
@blackrainbow6126
@blackrainbow6126 2 ай бұрын
Hip Hop and Rap communities have always had an issue with LGBTQIA+ .... I love it when someone comes out not givin a fuck and making sick tunes and bars, Graffiti, Breaking, Turntablism etc. I feel this happens more in the rap scene than elsewhere in hiphop culture.. Power to those who push against the bullshit homophobia and Misogyny.
@TubezThe1
@TubezThe1 2 ай бұрын
I honestly think there should be a queer black male rapper that is also hyperfemme that should start taking shots at homophobic rappers. We've seen the effect that rap beef can have and I can't help but think someone like Lil Nas X roasting this shit out of somebody would be a monumental event that's just the conversation in both black and queer culture.
@zaicustis
@zaicustis Ай бұрын
Lil nas x 🤔
@montyskew1786
@montyskew1786 2 ай бұрын
My Mans came for the hairlines with a quickness! I'm sooo locked in!!!! 🤣
@MaddoxGrey98
@MaddoxGrey98 2 ай бұрын
As a gay man who was also called the F slur by family growing up, I just wanted to let you know that you making that small comment made me feel less alone. I came here for my love of Hip-Hop and as well as pride in my sexuality but left with a personal connection. Keep creating. “Bottom Bussy” 😂😂😂😂😂❤❤❤❤❤❤
@Audiobungalow
@Audiobungalow 2 ай бұрын
Loved this! and that deconstructed Dorito wall art.
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
im definitely calling it that going forward
@porqpai7082
@porqpai7082 2 ай бұрын
Deconstructed Dorito is def a vibe!
@johnmuselmann7886
@johnmuselmann7886 2 ай бұрын
thtas exactly what i thought of!
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
yeesh- i look like a golden clown
@galemisoki6320
@galemisoki6320 2 ай бұрын
And i love it 😂 good video btw! Definitely will be looking out for more
@extraterrestrial8888
@extraterrestrial8888 2 ай бұрын
Also a big issue with the queer black community is their lack of general well-off representation in media. The only queer black character I can think of is Omar from The Wire but his homosexuality was used as a negative plot device instead of being let hang loose as a part of his character instead of a bargaining chip by which he lost his lover, shoots people, etc. The homosexuality card is played negatively there. If there was more black queer representation through subtlety, the problem would be closer to fixing (though most of my black friends are either pan or zesty as hell).
@NikolasTsang
@NikolasTsang 2 ай бұрын
Not a lot of people dive into topics like this, and i really enjoy your take and viewpoint on it. Genuinely, keep up the good work!
@outergalacticmarauderfacti6950
@outergalacticmarauderfacti6950 2 ай бұрын
lmao lil bussy
@jordanbrown3887
@jordanbrown3887 Ай бұрын
YES!!!!!!!!!! instant subscribe, I've been wanting to hear another Black queer perspective that I resonate with online for a long time
@Twink6629-lg3te
@Twink6629-lg3te 2 ай бұрын
Loved this video. Your delivery is great.
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
Thank you so much!
@OscarAntonio-t4z
@OscarAntonio-t4z 2 ай бұрын
Gay rappers being seen as tough? Its gonna happen, but that kind of change takes years, the culture has to adapt to that
@aby110
@aby110 2 ай бұрын
I'm mostly surprised there isn't much gay metal music. So many things about the gay experience (living in a heterosexual world) are very angering and we also have historical beef with the church.
@JL-ow5hp
@JL-ow5hp 2 ай бұрын
So cps wasn’t called on Boosie… did he just not openly admit to exposing his child and children around him to acts from grown adults????? Why is he not in jail?
@babyfacebastard4379
@babyfacebastard4379 Ай бұрын
Cause it doesn't count if 1. it's straight 2. It's an older woman and a younger boy
@z0mbifid_
@z0mbifid_ Ай бұрын
⁠@@babyfacebastard4379…what?😟
@garbageprince
@garbageprince 2 ай бұрын
I really hope this channel blows up. I've found your stuff to be really insightful 💖
@palooski227
@palooski227 2 ай бұрын
dude not only am i so happy to see more masc folk (queer or not) talking about this is so nice but you’re definitely a lil weird too and like that. AMZING VIDEO
@HardyNahtal
@HardyNahtal 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video!! Artist are constantly questioning society……
@Adieu_tk
@Adieu_tk 2 ай бұрын
Hip hop is inherenrly queer. It goes against the grain of hegemonic culture. The experiences and marginalization that queer and black people experience are so so similar being marginalized by the same oppressor; it genuinely does not make sense that these groups are often at odds (especially considering the overlap).
@COOKIEM260
@COOKIEM260 2 ай бұрын
Religious brainwashing, that's why.
@ExeErdna
@ExeErdna 2 ай бұрын
It doesn't really overlap because a lot of them are white and they can "turn off" the queer at anytime reclaim that whiteness. I've seen it too many times online and IRL. Especially now Rap is heavily controlled by white execs and be such for decades. The "oppressor" is the one greenlighting who is rising or falling.
@arih_rih
@arih_rih 2 ай бұрын
said so much so concisely!! very fitting for the topic.
@Larry_14
@Larry_14 2 ай бұрын
I’m writing raps but I’m waiting to release it years later but idk where I’m gonna belong in the industry
@z0mbifid_
@z0mbifid_ 2 ай бұрын
The makeup is giving gyaru realness 😻💅🏾
@snazzydrew
@snazzydrew 2 ай бұрын
Little Richard was an ICON!!!!
@cookingwithsilence
@cookingwithsilence 2 ай бұрын
What's tough about this topic is that it seemingly has to be either one thing or another, but in reality it's both. Hip Hop is about the real, drill is a drill, trap is a place people really go, so is the down low. But guys like Boosie, I don't understand why the mainstream is casting spurs either. Whether you've been to the zoo, or the catholic church, not every expression of any sexuality is pure. Some of these men have trauma from witnessing a form that is more about control, power and even force (I'm talking about the zoo), I just don't like seeing people getting left behind due to something as valid as trauma. Because of the line of work that some of my roommates are in, I have to keep a lot of secrets for my entire region, I feel for these men, even the ones who present as homophobes, that is, until we address what is really going on with men who see incarceration. The genre itself used to tie in credibility to these same lived experiences, and yet we want to push the conclusion under the rug. Sexuality is good and bad, it is a source of love and healing, it can also be a weapon. Victims are still victims, even if they go on to do and say bad things. Pray for Boosie.
@chrislawuk
@chrislawuk 2 ай бұрын
Seriously killer video, can not wait for part 2. I love video essays that can really illuminate a topic and reveal all sorts of interrelations and analysis, while not doing the thinking for me and still being entertaining and occasionally laugh out loud funny. Will definitely be sticking around for more of your videos Charles lad. +x+
@sammylamsu5178
@sammylamsu5178 2 ай бұрын
Speaking facts left and right
@austinmitchell2652
@austinmitchell2652 2 ай бұрын
I am super looking forward to this one!
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245
@cranklabexplosion-labcentr8245 2 ай бұрын
Eye make up is ill-masculine? Swedish power/melodic death metal: *are we a joke to you?*
@nobodynowhereneveragain
@nobodynowhereneveragain 2 ай бұрын
Yeah, it is. Rappers often come from MUCH grittier backgrounds than metal musicians. They're kind of seen as a joke by a lot of people. Coming from a metal background when I was younger to working with rappers now I feel I have a good insight on this.
@champsammy13
@champsammy13 2 ай бұрын
🅱️ottom 🅱️ussy
@blackstarreviews
@blackstarreviews Ай бұрын
Okay but if you’re going to wear makeup you HAVE to list the products and then drop a tutorial 🖤 this ep was another hitta!!!!
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 Ай бұрын
idk if im doing that again- took almost an hour to get all that off and i looked like a golden clown lol
@lorettahoffmann4226
@lorettahoffmann4226 2 ай бұрын
I feel like queer people should not try to be in hip hop spaces because the toxicity is just too much. I've heard that for some of the younger generation of black music listeners hip hop as a genre appeals to them less and less due to the homophobia, transphobia, and other phobias explicitly baked into the lyricism of so many classic albums. I feel like for their own self preservation queer black artists's should go where they're fully celebrated and appreciated. To be frank the hip hop community especially in the mainstream is just not ready for it and I'm not sure if they'll ever be because playing into extremely binary gender stereotypes is a huge part of the history especially in regards to men,. Taking into account how genre boxes mean less and less to younger people in a post Nicki Minaj, Drake, and Lil Wayne world I think many young queer black artists will blend their hip hop music with other genres naturally. And it will help them avoid the specific toxicity they would get just being a strictly hip hop artist.
@jmitchell3431
@jmitchell3431 Ай бұрын
as a black lesbian thank you for taking about this:)) i’ve grown up loving hip hop and still do but as a woman and a gay person it’s always felt a little isolating, but you learn to brush it off. i love seeing black queer aesthetics and people in hip hop it makes me feel so excited!! id also say that gay women absolutely do pose a challenge to masculinity hashgda a lot of men refuse to accept lesbians as legitimate or even real because how could a woman ever not want to be with a man right? it’s definitely different but men feel a sense of entitlement towards us. i’m excited to see what’s to come from from everything!! thank you again:)
@austinmitchell2652
@austinmitchell2652 2 ай бұрын
Really excellent exploration of this topic! I appreciate the makeup and I'm looking forward to part 2! Another thought I had during this video is about gay rap lyrics. Of course in hip hop, misogyny that degrades women is prevalent. But if a hypothetical gay rapper writes bars degrading the men who are their sexual conquests, would that be just as bad? Or would that be some sort of progressive? I'm really curious to hear if anyone has thoughts on this.
@myahbrimmer4616
@myahbrimmer4616 2 ай бұрын
It breaks my heart that Brockhampton split up. Kevin Abstract sparked my interest in more queer and non-white artists overall, outside of music. I was a suppressed gay (ID'ed at the time) woman. I had almost no exposure to any queerness in music that wasn't "retro". He has femme moments in the group's music videos but makes it clear he is comfortable with his masulinity and expresses that too. RIP Brockhampton.
@davidramo9841
@davidramo9841 2 ай бұрын
You meant BOOSIE… man said Bussy and had me confused af😂
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
oh, that wasnt an accident- in my world his name is Bussy
@indigoheaven001
@indigoheaven001 2 ай бұрын
This conversation won’t go anywhere till we address that Downlow gay men run the entirety of hiphop and that’s why the hyper masculine image is preferred.
@lordmew5
@lordmew5 2 ай бұрын
An interesting theory What is your supporting evidence?
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
thank for for proving my point. smh
@shoxx48
@shoxx48 2 ай бұрын
​​@@lordmew5 - None. There are countless conspiracies that there is secret gay agenda in hip hop and Hollywood and that rappers/celebrities from old and new get into the industry by doing gay stuff or allegedly being in the closet, and rappers nowadays dressing feminine are further pushing said agenda. They're worried about how it's emasculating black men into being less manly/fruity or whatever. Usually this coincides with the Illuminati nonsense. So a genre that has been notoriously homophobic is pushing a gay agenda. Like there is no proof of that. It's incredibly baseless. Some rappers being suspect or dressing feminine doesn't indicate anything.
@suoutubez19
@suoutubez19 2 ай бұрын
Lmao he said in the beginning that he’s not entertaining these homophobic conspiracy theories
@COOKIEM260
@COOKIEM260 2 ай бұрын
Who are the downlow gay men? Who are they honey? 😂
@beecareful69
@beecareful69 2 ай бұрын
You ARE prettier than a mug
@slickandslaycious6579
@slickandslaycious6579 2 ай бұрын
There are some ways in which queer women and afabs are thought of as being threats to cis-men's place (ie like replacing them)
@swaggybaconcheese1566
@swaggybaconcheese1566 2 ай бұрын
Keep pushing gangsta. Just discovered you and i know your channel is gonna grow ❤
@Dimi374
@Dimi374 2 ай бұрын
Good on you!! Great content!!!❤️
@nuyinjingtops7753
@nuyinjingtops7753 2 ай бұрын
thank you thank you thank you people decided to give themselves a gritty reboot but they forgot about the pictures lol thank for showing what i know
@primadonna3843
@primadonna3843 2 ай бұрын
oh wow...these comments are sooo over the top!
@TheVoltDenatsu
@TheVoltDenatsu 2 ай бұрын
Problem with the idealized differences in modern hip hop and rap is that the roots of hip hop were actually utilized by black panther party who literally would have lyrics talking about k1lling trans and gay people, which became the norm in the scene because a lot of artists were hardcore christians/muslims. And that only got worse in the 90s, when eminem added that into his repertoire and that went more mainstream, which makes it more complicated because bizarre would talk about f+-cking transvestites (The Underworld, Reel Wolf) and that's D12. So realistically hip hop is very slowly making a subgenre, not sure if its Queer Rap since that'd actually be more of an insult in the scene, more like LGBT-Hop, which would actually include lgbt artists who have their own scene in it. Personally seeing a dude who replicates HIZAKI (japanese guitarist guy, really skilled, but he totally looks like a chick) but in the rap scene with that attitude would be a change of pace but it's one of those things that I don't think the culture would totally want because of the aforementioned points. If you listen to modern rap, they STILL use jargon that's discriminatory in 2024.
@NeroVSsnk
@NeroVSsnk 2 ай бұрын
More of this conversation please ❤. Side note you lookedike a DBZ super Villain, very steezy
@doshpits
@doshpits 2 ай бұрын
is homophobia/ queerphobia gender exclusive? you seem to fixate on men as if women are incapable of such discriminatory practices. most women wouldnt think twice to shame bi men but whatever lol
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
I mean this video is about a male dominated field and how masculine queer men navigate that demographic ( mostly men). but whatever lol
@doshpits
@doshpits 2 ай бұрын
@@FatCharlie215 irrespective of those who consist of the industry being mainly one gender, the consumers (the people who effectively decide whether one has a career or not) are more varied. it would be disingenuous to claim said person with such characteristics emerging in the scene wouldnt be met with the same energy by all genders.
@FabbrizioPlays
@FabbrizioPlays 2 ай бұрын
​@@doshpitsit all still derives from a cultural attitude where men controlling women is glamorized and elevated. This is fundamentally a masculine problem, even if women absorb it and participate in it. That's the whole reason we talk about patriarchy in the first place. There is no way you can look at hip-hop culture and sincerely think this is a "both sides" thing.
@doshpits
@doshpits 2 ай бұрын
@@FabbrizioPlays we’re specifically talking about queer men becoming functioning members of hip-hop without being discriminated upon via their sexuality. and all genders having the capability of being bigots within an audience, stifling the career in the process. whats the correlation with what you conveyed here to this.
@leaffinite2001
@leaffinite2001 2 ай бұрын
Well just because he approaches the topic from the side hes familiar with doesnt mean he thinks any other aspect isnt there
@Jly9392
@Jly9392 2 ай бұрын
insightful and great video!
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@Mysonyeon
@Mysonyeon 2 ай бұрын
Me having to search up who bussy is ._.
@outergalacticmarauderfacti6950
@outergalacticmarauderfacti6950 2 ай бұрын
everything's well said on here, respect to that.
@crappyaccount
@crappyaccount 2 ай бұрын
damn, was hoping you'd mention kevin abstract or his group brockhampton. a couple of BH's members aren't straight, and openly reference being into dudes, and they did pretty well. a lot of their songs have millions of views.
@BreeziDeezi
@BreeziDeezi Ай бұрын
Great video.
@kippjay2
@kippjay2 2 ай бұрын
Teezo aint gay, and lil nas x dont make hiphop tho..
@justinbryanaspuria7318
@justinbryanaspuria7318 2 ай бұрын
His Nasarati 1&2 is hiphop
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
Teezo is a counterpoint on similar aesthetics but him being more acceptable because he is straight.
@joshraid1550
@joshraid1550 2 ай бұрын
In what universe is he not rapping? What is old town road then?
@masxedsyfirspyrul9189
@masxedsyfirspyrul9189 2 ай бұрын
@@joshraid1550country
@BlackZynfyndel
@BlackZynfyndel 2 ай бұрын
Rap has been pop music now for the last few years. It’s something we older generations have to accept. And weirdly, it’s what we always wanted growing up. So now, in a borderless world of culture exchange thanks to the Internet, the youth aren’t going to be as restricted as we were when making new art. It’s the cycle.
@tobitothejuubi
@tobitothejuubi 2 ай бұрын
Aye gang try putting some music in the video
@thunderkai7272
@thunderkai7272 2 ай бұрын
After Isaiah Rashad got outed he described his sexuality as "fluid" and that he's still figuring it out
@TheIrieman15
@TheIrieman15 2 ай бұрын
lol
@BlackZynfyndel
@BlackZynfyndel 2 ай бұрын
We also can’t put this all on us. Toxic masculinity comes from the patriarchy which works hand in hand with white supremacy and capitalism. There’s so much wrapped up in the performance of manhood and toughness. Almost like Tyler gets more respect because of his talent but also because I think to straight men he still exudes enough masculinity they don’t feel threatened as opposed to someone like LNX or Mykki Blanco.
@chillleft
@chillleft 2 ай бұрын
Rock on 🤟🏿 good luck 🍀
@PureNapture
@PureNapture 2 ай бұрын
Anywhere. What people do in their bedrooms is none of my business 🤷🏾‍♀️
@imtired3861
@imtired3861 2 ай бұрын
This is the thing, ones sexual identity is more than just bedroom activities, it’s part of your humanity and who you are as a person.
@COOKIEM260
@COOKIEM260 2 ай бұрын
It's not about that, it's about self expression.
@karenwoodparodypage3829
@karenwoodparodypage3829 2 ай бұрын
Missy Elliott has never come out publicly or confirmed to be in the lgbtqia+ community. You shoulda used Da Brat or Latifah lol
@BlackZynfyndel
@BlackZynfyndel 2 ай бұрын
I feel that but I do remember a lot of us men saying foul things about her due to how she presented herself aesthetically. Sure that’s my anecdotal experience but I don’t think myself unique enough to not realize that’s how people discussed things at the time. It’s not rap but he even could’ve used Sisqo. Dudes joked about him all the time. I lowkey felt Thong Song was him trying to dance, pun intended, around that talk.
@xiuyxy
@xiuyxy 2 ай бұрын
Just remembered not so long ago I joined a "Hip Hop" (it was far from Hip Hop, but still within it's subgenres to be fair) discord server, that seemed friendly and alright. That same day, I found some people in on of their voice channels, using FL Studio, just messing around with sounds. Had a moderator and admin in there casually, and after some 30-ish minutes, they moved out of FL Studio and went on Hinge (okay, don't ask me why, but they were screensharing going through girls on Hinge XD, maybe to do with the whole masculinity shtick.. just especulation honestly), another person in there did the same, who coincidentially lived near the other person on Hinge. That dude goes "HEY DUDE, be careful, there's a dude pretending to be a woman in the area" "idk why these monsters get on these apps", and ofc as a queer folk i was like "Excuse me what did you just said?". Dude couldn't even back it up, and doubled down saying just nasty stuff. Both the admin and moderator were just laughing, commenting just as gross. Just to later get told "Yes, we are all kinds of phobic in this server, what were you expecting? It's a hiphop server". All to say; it went through my mind "Is it really?" (Just for the sake of it, it was actually not the only kind of phobic they were, will leave it at that) The genre doesn't define the artist, the artist defines their own representation of it.
@lordmew5
@lordmew5 2 ай бұрын
All it seems like is one guy was trying to help another because he knew the other wouldn't be into that.
@theonlytinoxl
@theonlytinoxl Ай бұрын
idk but why does all the str8 men get credit why can't the ACTUAL gay artists get the recognition for being QUEER ARTISTS. smfh
@lordmew5
@lordmew5 2 ай бұрын
I know you explained why, but i personally just don't like combining gay with queer. I could imagine a hyper masculinized male who is gay and uses that in a somewhat domineering way to be able to carve out a specialized niche. I don't see an openly queer person being able to do that.
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
meh, you'll be ok.
@pansieisawesome
@pansieisawesome 2 ай бұрын
I think in this case he was using queer to mean any man who isn't straight, not necessarily one who breaks a lot of masculine gender norms. Queer would be a way of grouping gay, bi fluid+ etc. men (and people)
@setsen337
@setsen337 2 ай бұрын
Good topic. Ive heard some ass ass takes on this
@maleturtle4040
@maleturtle4040 2 ай бұрын
0:38 yes. Do your fucking face up love, also, I’m a dude who has tried doing my own eyeliner, the shit is HARD
@sman2305
@sman2305 2 ай бұрын
Great video brother, just subbed
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the sub!
@allthedamagedone
@allthedamagedone 2 ай бұрын
Look like Marlon from White Chicks.
@kalahall5170
@kalahall5170 2 ай бұрын
Look like an Egyptian(Kemet) god!❤❤❤❤❤❤
@charlesthompson5645
@charlesthompson5645 2 ай бұрын
So in kamikaze the Eminem album around 2018 everyone was looking down on Eminem for saying anti gay stuff about Tyler. But now that the trans community has gotten larger I now see homophobia renter normalization. It’s like people like Tyler almost got us to change but now pro trumpers and the anti woke wokeness are like variants of old prejudice. It doesn’t help lil nas X but anti christ shit now Tyler is the only gay man not part of that agenda. It’s just a bunch of bs at the end of the day but I felt we almost became more sensitive but then reverted as a culture to our identities
@thiskittyhasthumbs
@thiskittyhasthumbs 2 ай бұрын
First time viewer ♥️ the make up is terrible, it does nothing for your complexion. But you have already have a new fan ♥️
@queerredguard
@queerredguard 2 ай бұрын
It's probably just the lighting but I can't really see your makeup (besides the eye stuff)
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
you're not missing anything, i looked like a crazy person
@TomTom-sm7il
@TomTom-sm7il 2 ай бұрын
"hella tacky"? Are you from the Bay Area, California?
@davidrectorthesinger
@davidrectorthesinger Ай бұрын
the term, "gay" is another term white people forced on an entire community w/o everyone's buy-in. white people went/go around the world renaming people, places and things that the indigenous people already named. mt everest is a prime ex. the mountain's original name is Sargamartha. when everest climbed the mountain he needed the help of the people of Nepal to climb it. w/o their help the british guy would have never been able to climb the mountain. after he climbed Sargamartha it was renamed Mt. Everest because it is said that everest was the 1st person to climb it. so sad.
@DaFilmakerDrew
@DaFilmakerDrew 2 ай бұрын
Yoo my bro I wanna do your production for your channel
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
i'll keep that in mind, cant really afford an editor yet
@djkin5501
@djkin5501 2 ай бұрын
5:00 who can name a boosie track??? Seriously??? Maybe in the past decade, no. But many of us grew up on him...
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
no, we had a couple of hits that just wouldnt die... we didnt " grow up" with him.
@snazzydrew
@snazzydrew 2 ай бұрын
@@djkin5501 literally the only thing I know Boosie is that he weird af. Y'all grew up thinking that nigga not weird and kept listening. 😂
@COOKIEM260
@COOKIEM260 2 ай бұрын
All I know is Wipe Me Down cause my auntie always plays it when she's having parties and get togethers
@djkin5501
@djkin5501 2 ай бұрын
@COOKIEM260 I was listening to Boosie in high school and I'm 38...
@COOKIEM260
@COOKIEM260 2 ай бұрын
@@djkin5501 I'm 20 and only ever listened to Boosie out of my control at family events which is this Wipe Me Down song. I don't find his music appealing and this guy is a weirdo as a person so i'm good.
@heiress.
@heiress. Ай бұрын
You look crazy.
@not.spir0s
@not.spir0s 2 ай бұрын
why you out here calling yourself fat king?
@azeemshabazz4105
@azeemshabazz4105 Ай бұрын
Look up the dsm.
@101iswhatsup
@101iswhatsup 2 ай бұрын
On the makeup, I was about to dial 912 for you...911 don't move fast enough. Jokes aside, peace. I don't agree personally with lgbtq, but I drink and smoke, not everyone agrees with that. Thanks for standing up for yourself and the others in that community. Oppression sucks, freedom is life, love is free. Peace.
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
i look a hot mess
@101iswhatsup
@101iswhatsup 2 ай бұрын
Hey, thanks again sir. Listening to the Internet, Syd be sangin. "I tried". Music is such a great mode of expression. Real talk, I was working for someone earlier, radio said "take me to church..." Dude said, "that's a beautiful song, who sings it?" My response" Sam Smith, I think he was talking about his lover.. he's homosexual, but apply it as you will if it's good music." Peace yo.(basically what happens in the personal space doesn't bother people not involved. Thanks again, I feel accepted. You took my joke, rocked it like a baby and honestly.... just blessings, life been kinda kicking my ass some.)
@gracewhite8244
@gracewhite8244 2 ай бұрын
Teezo is gay?
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
Teezo is just used as a counter-point to a gay artist-
@softboyty
@softboyty 2 ай бұрын
yerrr! great video...terrible make up
@azeemshabazz4105
@azeemshabazz4105 Ай бұрын
I understand what you're doing but you're being very disingenuous about this topic. Black ppl have a lot of sterotypes on us. Ima watch the next vid still because i see you have a brain
@mrguy3029
@mrguy3029 Ай бұрын
Hip hop has always been gay, look at JayZ and Diddy and Birdman
@nehemiahYahawadah824
@nehemiahYahawadah824 2 ай бұрын
Shi idgaf if an artist is gay or not as long as they talk abt rs or something deep imma like it no cap, there is no discrimination in good art imo
@elbert5208
@elbert5208 2 ай бұрын
tell that to your brothers then, this act always have to be str8 and fearful of gay is getting worse
@nehemiahYahawadah824
@nehemiahYahawadah824 2 ай бұрын
@@elbert5208 i mean i dont see a point in doin that bc everyone is subject to their opinion bc even though i see art as subjective i am strongly against homosexuality
@elbert5208
@elbert5208 2 ай бұрын
@@nehemiahYahawadah824 dawg what the fuck are you talking about, u can't be homophobic
@bmslhs
@bmslhs 2 ай бұрын
You gotta be really young or just out of touch to not know a Boosie song
@Icouldnteventellyouthat
@Icouldnteventellyouthat 2 ай бұрын
Nowhere TBQH
@houseofthehuntinghorn1433
@houseofthehuntinghorn1433 2 ай бұрын
I was all with you until I heard the patriarchy. And I just found you to. Never again.
@elbert5208
@elbert5208 2 ай бұрын
what you mean? its right
@ononaokisama
@ononaokisama 2 ай бұрын
Nowhere
@FatCharlie215
@FatCharlie215 2 ай бұрын
lame
@marcusdavis5599
@marcusdavis5599 2 ай бұрын
Keep it away.
@shakespearishot71
@shakespearishot71 2 ай бұрын
grow up
@joshraid1550
@joshraid1550 2 ай бұрын
If you were a gay man who wanted to rap would you just give up on being a rapper for the sake of not making the gay infest hip hop?
@NicholiWhite
@NicholiWhite Ай бұрын
Tupac was the first gay rapper
@SoulkeepDes
@SoulkeepDes 2 ай бұрын
They already get a whole month what more do they want💀
@conkreetgamer
@conkreetgamer 2 ай бұрын
not getting kicked out of the house by parents and not getting killed for being gay
@elbert5208
@elbert5208 2 ай бұрын
dis why gay can never be in hiphop with how yall homobphoic bum asses act
@MidnightEkaki
@MidnightEkaki 2 ай бұрын
Does black history month fix all the issues black people face? Lol
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