The sad thing is that I think that Zira might have been groomed by Scar, as the fact that in a deleted scene Scar wanted Nala even though she was as young as Simba (basically he wanted to mate with her) and Zira being fanatically obsessed might have been manipulated by Scar and used by him for many things
@Pixlewatchtoo11 күн бұрын
🤔
@FZN28911 күн бұрын
That's dark.. you might be onto something
@balonciega10 күн бұрын
these are lions…….
@FZN28910 күн бұрын
@@balonciega yeah, and it COULD be true. Stuff like this can happen to lionesses irl. You'd know if you'd actually take the time to learn, but yknow, they're just lions.
@RosheenQuynh10 күн бұрын
@@balonciega They're also anthro
@louisewestie98911 күн бұрын
This makes sense. Also Zira was the mother of his cubs (Nuka and Vitani) and Scar groomed her, as he attempted to do with Nala as he wanted an heir. I think when Scar chose Kovu as an heir - during the events of the Lion King, Zira was given the task of protecting Kovu alongside her own cubs. Also Kovu was the last born before Simba exiled Zera and the Outlanders and as Kovu and Kira were the same age, I think he was born and exiled just before or around the time Kiara was born.
@elwoodr563yt611 күн бұрын
It was rumored that Nuka was Scar and Zira’s biological son and Kovu and Vitani were stolen from 2 other sets of parents.
@devinlupei507111 күн бұрын
I believe that Zira and her lionesses showed up during the five years that Simba was exiled. We didn't see much of what happened to the Pridelands during Scar's rule, so this is just one of those things.
@ΕυάγγελοςΦώσκολος10 күн бұрын
I always thought that Zira and her pride were a completely different group of lions who traveled to the Pride Lands during Scar's reign, with whom Zira got a liking to. When Simba took back the throne, Zira and her pride tried to take over and that led to their banishment.
@kevindelbridge1639 күн бұрын
This makes the most sense to me.
@Maria_Miciano_511 күн бұрын
This makes a lot of sense! Zira did have everyone else do the work while she stayed in the background. But after what happened in the sequel she couldn’t let go of the hate in her heart.
@teamsteed111 күн бұрын
No, she didn't.
@connormarchand630211 күн бұрын
Zira: hey guys look who’s back with pizz- why are the hyaena’s eating out king!? 🤯
@sapphirewriter834911 күн бұрын
I always felt like she and her pride were actually a different pride that was looking for sanctuary or a place to call home, Scar charmed her and took her pride in and she had to mate with another lion because Scar was too old or something.
@ΕυάγγελοςΦώσκολος11 күн бұрын
Me too.
@rileybridgham196311 күн бұрын
Amazing video, Zira was misunderstood, she is the way she is because of her father, and the death of her mother, and also getting manipulated by Scar. That's why she couldn't let go of the hate in her heart because of her troubled past. Love your videos, keep up the amazing work and I can't wait for the next video.
@carolinedisalvatore97689 күн бұрын
@@rileybridgham1963 Yeah…I’m pretty sure that backstory’s from a fanfiction and/or fanart on Deviantart and not actually canon since we never see that on screen, there’s no canon novel or comic about that and no director, producer or whatever has ever confirmed something like that
@nealsmall93169 күн бұрын
@@carolinedisalvatore9768i Do remember hearing a rumor that her father was mean and abusive to her
@carolinedisalvatore97689 күн бұрын
@@nealsmall9316 It’s really just peoples headcannons getting the better of them
@HuskyQueenWarrior11 күн бұрын
Guys, wake up! Isaac Carlson has uploaded!! I always figured Zira and the Outsider lions were out hunting and didn't make it back to the Pridelands until after Simba defeated Scar and the hyenas ate him.
@Jaidyn22811 күн бұрын
Tbh, I feel like Scar and Zira are villain masterpieces. *By themselves* Now I am mostly likely wrong but I don’t think trying to focus on two main villains in one setting is a good idea
@ZaidNail11 күн бұрын
Did you know that in a deleted scene from the lion king Simba's pride. Zira finds out Simba had a baby girl and in the deleted scene? kovu was about the same age he was when he first met Kiara. Which means kovu is actually older than kiara.
@danielsantiagourtado343011 күн бұрын
You're the Best Disney KZbinr Isaac!!🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@teamsteed111 күн бұрын
Thank you for posting the video. I've always wondered about Zira not being in the Lion King. 🦁
@epache31511 күн бұрын
Scar:Finished This My Beloved Zira Zira:I Will My Beloved Scar
@DanGamingFan240611 күн бұрын
This mostly makes sense, but if Zira and the others were inside Pride Rock protecting her cubs, how come we didn't see them when Timon and Pumbaa went in to free Zazu?
@tiagoleitemarcal668911 күн бұрын
@DanGamingFan2406 • Pride Rock is far from having only one cave. Besides the main cave (where the king, the queen and co. uses to sleep) also there has the cave that the Lion Guard used to do their meetings. Zira with Nuka and the newborns Vitani and Kovu could had been there while there during the final battle in the end of the first movie.
@pablotheartfox114211 күн бұрын
@@tiagoleitemarcal6689Not to mention the cave that Scar himself resides in at the beginning of the movie, I like to think that’s where Zira and Scar’s other followers were protecting Kovu.
@tiagoleitemarcal668911 күн бұрын
@@pablotheartfox1142 Good theory, the cave where Scar risided was a safer option. Interestingly, when Rafiki was telling the story of Zira and her pride to the Lion Guard, Zira and Kovu suddenlly appeared just behind Simba after his proclamation. That may implies that Zira and Kovu (alongside Vitani and Nuka) where in one of pride rock's caves, for them arrive so quickly behind Simba.
@gabrielaabreudearaujo258011 күн бұрын
@@tiagoleitemarcal6689 And maybe Zira never knew that Scar admitted to everyone that he killed Mufasa, and the Shenzi, Banzai, Ed and the rest of the Hyena Clan killed Scar after he betrayed them in his attempt to be spared from punishment for Mufasa's death and the battle with Simba at the top of the Pride Rock.
@autumbreeze112911 күн бұрын
Considering there's a good chance the Hyenas burned to death with Scar as they ate him... this IS plausible @gabrielaabreudearaujo2580. With the Hyenas burned to death too, Zira would have had none of Scar's allies (former or otherwise) to learn thr truth from a trusted source, so then makes sense she'd assume Simba killed Scar and was lying, pinning the blame on the Hyenas, to cover for himself. It actually makes a shocking amount of sense
@LordBumblebee123810 күн бұрын
The reason I believe Zira was never seen in the the original Lion King film, was because she was apart of another pride before leaving with several lioness before coming across the Pridelands, where Scar accepted her and both began to bond. This bond eventually resulted in the birth of Nuka, which Scar deemed unworthy of an heir, which Scar ordered Zira to find another lion to mate with for a better heir, but to wait until Nuka was of age. After Nuka became of age, a male lion came into the pridelands and mated with Zira resulting in the birth of Vitani, but Scar viewed Vitani as a leader of the Lion Guard and began to tell Zira the stories of how he was the leader of the Lion Guard before losing the roar. After Vitani had come of age, Zira went into another pride, stole the cub that would become Kovu, and Scar had been pleased by her actions, and granted Kovu his heir. When the Pridelands began to fall, Scar told Zira and her followers to follow the animals hurts to feed Nuka, Vitani, and Kovu to keep them from dying, but after Simba became the rightful heir, Zira believed Simba had killed Scar, and making it her life long mission to kill Simba and accomplish Scar’s wish of Kovu being the heir to the throne.
@sentientfetus389411 күн бұрын
Zera has a cub . I thought the only reason some lionesses stayed Royal to scar is because we know what happens when a lion king is over thrown by another Lion
@desiraejenks260811 күн бұрын
When I was a child watching the 2nd movie I assumed Zira was a lone lioness without a pride. The movie stated Scar isnt Kovus son so I assumed she went to Scar hoping to join a pride and get protection for her cubs. Which is why she questioned Simbas reign so much because she knew was Scar as king not Mufasa. But as an adult I love your theory too.
@gabrielaabreudearaujo258011 күн бұрын
If Zira was within the Pride Rock protecting her cubs - mainly Kovu - during the battle of Simba, Nala and Sarabi's group of lionesses against Scar and the Hyena Clan, maybe Zira never knew that Scar admitted to everyone that he killed Mufasa, and Shenzi, Banzai, Ed and the rest of the Hyena Clan killed Scar after he betrayed them in his attempt to be spared from punishment for Mufasa's death and the battle with Simba at the top of the Pride Rock.
@julianrojas90711 күн бұрын
With Simba gone, Scar became king with Zira as her queen and together, they'll have Nuka, Vitani and Kovu as their children
@welcome2myhappyworld11 күн бұрын
According to Nuka in the movie, Kovu is not Scar's biological son.
@mydude87316 сағат бұрын
@@welcome2myhappyworld his adoptive son. But before that idea was scrapped he was scar biological son
@pizzaplanettruck976111 күн бұрын
Personally, I think Zira and her henchlions did not actually originate from the Pride Lands, and only arrived during Scar's reign. This would only explain their loyalty to Scar, but also the Outsider nickname and their looks. Despite what Kiara said, the Outsiders do have differences, such as an angular snout like Scar, long toes vs round ones, darker eye shades, and in some cases, an M-shaped nose, meaning they would be somewhat easy to spot. Not being from the Pride Lands would also be something I think is overlooked, and that's Timon, Pumbaa, and the Pridelanders sharing Simba's distaste and lack of care for the Outsiders. Sure Simba was their king, and the one who made the decision to banish the Outsiders, but he only succeeded because the other lions had no qualms with enforcing it. As, the final battle showed, the Pridelanders had no qualms about obeying Simba's orders, almost as if he stated the Outlanders weren't lion and not to be treated as such. Also, it is possible the Outsiders did fight for Scar. In 1&1/2, the hyenas attempted to follow Simba when he chased after Scar, so who was fighting the lionesses then?
@Markus2E5I66 күн бұрын
Yeah the outsiders don't look native to the pridelands. Still lions but they look so different. Even their fur is more of an ashy tan rather than the brighter tans of the pridelands lion
@pizzaplanettruck97616 күн бұрын
I also think Scar's mother was originally one of them, hence why he looked like one.
I once heard a theory that she was out hunting or something. But when she came back she was enraged and killed Kopa.
@carolinedisalvatore976811 күн бұрын
There is still the whole thing of why was Zira so loyal to Scar when he just let the pridelands become a desolate wasteland with barely any food or water? And he was perfectly okay with letting everyone starve as he flat out says to Sarabi.
@drewluczynski960911 күн бұрын
That could have been the plan. Starve out the unloyal followers. My theory has been the outsiders were somewhere else and were waiting for Scar to clear out the access room
@SharpDesign10 күн бұрын
I'm more curious why Zira wouldn't be involved in the Outlanders when Scar's ghost was brought back in Lion Guard. We could have seen more of the backstory between them.
@fazbrogaming777611 күн бұрын
Unrelated but remember Kion from the Lion Guard series, I want to know why he never made an appearance in the second movie. I mean obviously the movie was made before he was crated just like Zira in lion kind too but I would like a in-universe explanation for Kion as well,
@yamisart11 күн бұрын
They covered that in the Lion Guard series. Kion went on a long journey before Kiara's first hunt and returned after the war ended. And during Kiara's childhood scenes he's probably just playing with his friends somewhere
@sentientfetus389411 күн бұрын
Toy Story 4 was to contrast first toy story of woody not being favorite toy . But when he wanted to leave Andy for the toy museum buzz didn't force him to come back
@londonworkman447811 күн бұрын
Don’t forget about Kopa, also has been blaming Simba for no reason
@ethandoyle497811 күн бұрын
Dang , this honestly explains a lot . I always thought she was a loyal adult lioness and was manipulated when scar took the thrown until his death.
@leonorakristinerozalinamll947311 күн бұрын
She was out hunting.
@caterinagargiulo11 күн бұрын
This is incredible
@spencersawesomevideos702211 күн бұрын
Yeah now that I think about it, it does seem like a bit of retcon.
@caterinagargiulo11 күн бұрын
This is enchanting
@CinderKitten10 күн бұрын
I hope we get more Zira story in the upcoming live action movie
@AntoinettexKitten9 күн бұрын
Doubt it. They completely changed the story
@levid.25925 күн бұрын
Another lion king video by Issac, Yes please 🥺
@Cody-mg5gh10 күн бұрын
Is it possible that Zira is closer to Scar's age then Simba's and that maybe she was the only lioness who was loyal to him when Mufasa was king? Then when Scar became king, either she or they together got other lionesses in their side? Also, could it be possible that she and her followers were away hunting while the battle took place? I wish we would see some type of show, movie, or comic to explain where she was during The Lion King.
@thetheorizermoore747610 күн бұрын
Do this for httyd how all species and populations of dragons returned to the hidden world and lived under toothless rule
@ProfessorDreamer11 күн бұрын
Isaac Carlson can you do video on Frollo and His Fanatic Beliefs In Religion.
@Chikararyoku11 күн бұрын
interesting to know, but I wonder whay Kovu was Scar's chosen heir. Nuka says; Scar wasn't even his father, he just took him in.
@zay440111 күн бұрын
According to a fan made story by a KZbinr named askari zira was born to azola and kuzimu their pride was known to be aggressive and they had leaders instead of a king and queen azola was a good mother but kuzimu wanted a strong daughter and tromitized her daily azula didn't approved of it and secretly consoled her daughter but kuzimu found out and killed her zira eventually got her friends to join her to leave the pride after a while zira got more lionesses to join them thanks to her manipulation and eventually got to the pridelands under scars rule and eventually had nuka with him and got ordered by scar to have a cub with another lion aka vitani and went on to kill kovu's parents allowing her to steal him and presented him to scar eventually zira left to go find more food and found out scar was dead she blamed simba taking her vengeance on his firstborn son kopa and banished her to the outlands and well the rest of the story is the movie
@Twiceborn_by_grace10 күн бұрын
The way you put the clips of the movie made me think that the 2019 remake would have done better if it was still animated, but done in the style of Pixar.
@drewluczynski960911 күн бұрын
My theory has been, Scar relocated the outsiders somewhere else temporarily while he stayed behind and waited for the unloyal lionesses, and maybe also the hyenas, to starve and die.
@calebmaybin689611 күн бұрын
A missed opportunity to make the live action movie stand out: Zira's fanaticism and hatred of Sarabi/Nala/Sarafina for being Scar's preferences ... not to mention seeing Nala's Father just to ease suspensions (unlike Cruella that tried to make Pongo and Perdita related ... 😦😧😨😰🥶🤯)
@aquawarper732810 күн бұрын
Zira would've been close to Scar before Mufasa died. In the Lion Guard, she started, "Scar and I were close; very close. He taught me all about the roar." I think he showed off the roar to her, or she wouldn't have believed him
@gabrielaabreudearaujo258011 күн бұрын
Can you of a video telling what you think of Descendants 4, and your perspective of Red's new life after changing her mother's past by avoiding Bridget's fate of become a tyrant to become a lovable Queen of Hearts and if Mal and Ben's lives were changed too. Also, what will happen when the King Ben and Queen Mal of Auradon return from their Business Trip with Evie and Jay, and they possibly remember that the Queen of Hearts was originally a tyrant over Wonderland, and if Uma's aunt Uliana does remember of Red and Chloe's actions of changing the past and seeking revenge.
@yamisart11 күн бұрын
I think Zira and Simba aren't that close in age. She has a teenage son already when Simba had Kiara. I'd put her inbetween Simba and Scar, age wise. Which would make her a teen/young adult when Simba is a cub.
@JakeFromYoutube11 күн бұрын
My question then is, if Zira was at pride rock the whole time, and as you said, male lions don't let other male lion's cubs stay in their pride, and it's said twice I think that Kovu isn't Scar's child, does that make him Mufasa's?😂 are him and Simba half brothers? 💀🤣
@caterinagargiulo11 күн бұрын
This is great
@caterinagargiulo11 күн бұрын
This is nice
@richardblakely685410 күн бұрын
When TLK3 came out, and was set to retell the events of the original film, I kinda hoped they’d take the opportunity to explain what Zira was doing when Simba returned.
@donaldcass96788 күн бұрын
Both Zira and Dr Gero from DBZ are the biggest examples of Remembering the new Guy
The only plot hole is that nuka said that kovu is not scar’s son they just took him in so who is his daf
@ryanjones3589 күн бұрын
Scar was supposed to be his dad but then they realized that would make him and Kiara related so they had to throw in that line about Scar not being his father so it wouldn't be incestuous. Since the line was probably added in late in the movie's production, they didn't have time to say who Kovu's father would've been.
@akaCol19879 күн бұрын
I now see the path to our glorious return to power!
@KaleighLawrence11 күн бұрын
Did Zira meet Scar while he was leader his lion guard because she knows about the roar of elder and she if the leader of the lion guard roar at a cloud they can turn into rain cloud and make it rain 🌧
@KaleighLawrence11 күн бұрын
Know if the leader of the lion guard roar at the cloud and make it into the rain cloud and make it rain 🌧
@epache31511 күн бұрын
Zira Should've been Simba's Aunt
@tesslichtman73028 күн бұрын
I love your video! Everything that you said made sense. Correct me if I’m wrong, though, but didn’t the creator of Lion King 2 confirm that Zira was part of Mufasa’s generation?
When the new lion king film comes out I would love to see a video of tuckers full story of possible please ❤
@FuadFarah-s4k11 күн бұрын
zira was only in the Lion King 2 simba pride
@PaytonHenry-i4f10 күн бұрын
The only thing that makes this unlikely is the lion guard. In the parts where Zira is there, she tells Kion that she was friends with scar when he lead the guard. That, I would think, was before lion king took place. Unless he simply told Zira about the roar later after he had already lost it, which would make sense. I’d like to know how Zira’s lionesses became loyal to her or to scar?
@justicehunter574611 күн бұрын
Can u do Why Couldn't Mushu Awaken the Great Stone Dragon?
@KaylaWolf3_7_310 күн бұрын
But wasnt it said in the second movie by Nuka that Kovu wasnt Scar's real son? What happened with that? Isnt Nuka Scar's real son? And I thought someone or somewhere it was said that Vitani was actually Scar and Nala's kid and thats why they have such a hateful fued between them (correct me if im wrong). Like the rest of it makes sense but the part i dont get is why Nuka said that Kovu wasnt even his real son?
@falcoskywolf10 күн бұрын
I wonder if one of Zira's quiet resentments came from not being chosen to be Simba's betrothed because Nala was closer in age. Not jealousy over Simba himself, but being passed over as a potential queen for him.
@dabedu885010 күн бұрын
No way your making the lion king vids again
@thesnesgeek9 күн бұрын
I want to think Zira was allowed to live in the pridelands for some time due to her love Scar, finding him due to the hyenas. He didn’t love her back but she was in love with him and after attacking Kopa due to Scar’s request, thus exiling her from The Pridelands. She was perfectly fine but became more and more insane due to being impressed by Scars actions. Kopa died after all this.
@epache31511 күн бұрын
Zira She's Scar's Mate and Queen
@carolinedisalvatore976811 күн бұрын
Honestly can we all just stop pretending that Simba’s Pride is a great sequel? I mean it’s not a terrible film but as a follow up to the original movie it just really doesn’t sink well with all of its plot holes and inconsistencies and poor writing. I mean seriously people criticize the Star Wars Sequel Trilogy for “not having a well thought out story under different writers and directors” yet hardly anybody seems to do the same for not just Simba’s Pride and a lot of the Disney animated sequels but pretty much every other franchise in and out of Disney. And also as much as I love The original Lion King film I really do think that as a franchise…it’s a freaking mess.
@tamyasaunders768910 күн бұрын
In addition to where Zira and the outsiders were in the lion king I wanna know where they were in the lion guard when Scar was briefly resurrected and allied himself with all of the lion guard's enemies expect zira and her followers and to this day I wonder why he didn't recruit them or even mention them.
@bostonrailfan24278 күн бұрын
given how lionesses are in prides and that Nala herself explained it, she was out hunting alongside others. the battle was not expected and Simba had zero interest on the cubs so her protecting the cubs makes no sense…but having to go out a distance to do hunting for Scar does.
I saw in a pack of hyhenas the shadow of the Scottish terrier from the lady and the tramp
@theprecartoonworld5 сағат бұрын
Well I guess you specifically say that Zira wasn’t there to help Scar because she was taking care of her own children in case Scar got defeated, his race of lions who support him can still go on.
@croceyzx24334 күн бұрын
I like it but I can’t see it.. For starters, if she’s the same age as Simba and grew up within the pride, then it goes back to the same argument with Nala….who’s her father. She also seems older than Simba for me by a few years but not at the same age as Mufasa and Scar and so probably in between. Most likely, when Simba and Nala were kids at the age we see them majority of the time, Zira was probably at the age adult Kiara was in LK2 when she went off to hunt on her own. So Zira was most likely hunting or just doing background stuff during the LK1. But that’s if she was even apart of the pride from the get go…. There’s a good chance that she joined during the end (ish) of Scars reign. She could have been a good friend of his and maybe joined Scar after her “husband” died? Nuka could have been between the age of young and adult Kiara when he arrived or potentially a bit older (for me, I think Nuka is closer in age to Simba than Zira is to Simba). She would have already been pregnant and maybe as Scar knew her and he former mate, he decided to take her in and allowed her to give birth (goes back to your point, if the male lion of the pride isn’t the father, he’ll simply kill the cubs. So clearly Scar knew her and respected her mate enough to allow the cubs around). This also explains why Scar chose Kovu over Nuka. Nuka was young but maybe not young enough to mould into a future king, Kovu however was. Scar and Zira as well may have not been at the “love” stage until after Kovus birth and so would make more sense to name the cub you’ll hopefully help and watch grow yourself than pretty much a teen who you have no real connection with. Sticking to the point about picking an heir, I wonder if Scar just chose Kovu at complete random and from that Zira (maybe idolising Scar) took that as a sign he loves her?? Just seems to me that Scar was getting on a bit and knew he needed an heir but didn’t have a mate to have cubs with for whatever reason, so picked Kovu probably knowing he’d die before Kovu would become old enough to be king and may not have felt threatened by Nuka and so never worried about him dethroning scar? (I never watched the Lion Guard so my points may have been disproved by the show lol).
@zay440111 күн бұрын
Nice
@Illusive13137 сағат бұрын
Lion King success + Disney --> Money --> Lion King 2 --> we need a new villain. Simple as that.
@Nalabear_202011 күн бұрын
Wish there was a another lion gaurd season
@snakedude191911 күн бұрын
She met scar when Simba ran away and she and her kids were away from pride rock finding food when Simba battled scar She came back when scar was dead and Simba banished her
@suprmekai55 күн бұрын
Yeah Scar had no kids reason being when he let the Hyenas take over the pride lands and devastate everything the lioness wanted nothing to do with Scar refused to mate with him, So in comes Zira who’s already pregnant with Kovu Scar adopts him before he’s born
@snakedude19195 күн бұрын
@ he had 1 Nuka but Zira didn’t like Scar’s genes since Nuka was a mess So she mated with another lion and had vitani and kovu
@hannahormsby50738 күн бұрын
This definitely makes sense but who was Kovus father if it wasn’t scar?
But in the lion Gaurd she told kion she was friends with scar when he led his Gaurd, but by the time the first movie happened. Scar had long lost his roar?
@AntoinettexKitten7 күн бұрын
I wonder if kovu was stolen from the night pride or if scar mated with one of their females and had kovu
I would be much more interested in a movie showing what Zira was doing during The Lion King instead of a movie inserting Timon and Pumbaa into every scene as minor background characters.
@powder123411 күн бұрын
ZIRAS MOM IS AZOLLAH
@epache31511 күн бұрын
Scar and Zira Wow
@weeb-ubreafs13827 күн бұрын
Kinda crazy scar didn't just have like a million kids as an army
Good video about the lion king I just have one question that has been bothering me what happened to the crocodile in peter pan 2 return to never land why wasn't the crocodile in the film is their a cannon explanation why .
@toasted713511 күн бұрын
Kovu is not scars son, he is his adopted son
@axels318810 күн бұрын
I think Zira was just a a young Lioness in the background in the original lion king so she was not important then.
@manoftheusajones514711 күн бұрын
What happened to the Other Coven Heads after Belos’ Defeat?
@epache31511 күн бұрын
The Late Suzanne pleshette did Zira
@epache31511 күн бұрын
Simba Was In The Jungle Raised By Pumbaa and Timon
@RalucaMunteanu-d1z11 күн бұрын
Did you now that the strange lion is zira father both has same eyes cooler 😮😮🎉🎉🎉🎉
@nazosqueen348010 күн бұрын
Kovu is not actually scar's son
@sentientfetus389411 күн бұрын
If toys are actually imaginary friends who physical bodies to possess. So can live there own life's after their kid done with them escaping the memory dump. Sporks are enough. And wondering how did Stinky Pete come to life unless some opened him out him back . But. What if woody was kept mint in box for decades. And sense the woody we know is figment of Andies imagination so if Andy did not know about Woody's Round up how could he