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8 ай бұрын

What do you think about the ending of Gojo vs Sukuna? Please leave a like and subscribe and most importantly, enjoy :)
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@LazyBoy215
@LazyBoy215 8 ай бұрын
plot twist : Takaba is the villain all along and he thought gojo losing was going to be funny
@jaliun
@jaliun 8 ай бұрын
Takaba+awareness of ability=goattt
@semekiizuio
@semekiizuio 8 ай бұрын
Copium 😭 I have another theory, Yuuji will sacrifice himself then resurrect everyone back to life including Shibuya people through the book of souls unless its for Megumi only
@1cicle.
@1cicle. 8 ай бұрын
@@semekiizuio thank god gege writes jjk bro
@semekiizuio
@semekiizuio 8 ай бұрын
​​@@1cicle. lmao 😂 Imagine Miwa pulling up out of nowhere
@ypcscott2147
@ypcscott2147 8 ай бұрын
@@1cicle.ong
@wolfbrigade8042
@wolfbrigade8042 8 ай бұрын
My 3 biggest issues with this chapter and the finale of the fight are: 1. Gojo getting killed off-screen is incredibly disappointing and pretty anticlimactic for the most anticipated fight in all of JJK. 2. Gojo glazing Sukuna in the afterlife seemed extremely out of character seeing how much of a cocky bastard Gojo is and always was (dude had a god complex for most of his life). Also, him saying that Sukuna was so much stronger and that he never had a chance seems more like Gege telling us this and not Gojo himself when looking at how heavily Gojo dominated the fight in the later half. 3. Sukuna might be too powerful now to make it seem logical that the students defeat him (without it seeming like an ass pull).
@Malthizar
@Malthizar 8 ай бұрын
What's crazy is Gege literally didn't even have to do that. The fact that Gojo's Purple hurt him too already implied that his Infinity was down. We could have had the (overall) same outcome but with Sukuna or the narrator commenting that "while it _looked_ like Gojo had regained his strength, the reality was that he was putting on a show and that his last Purple was so costly he was nearly out of CE" Instead, it's a time-space Cleave that doesn't even make sense.
@Zelldic27
@Zelldic27 8 ай бұрын
Even Sukuna praised Jogo in his battle. Both Sukuna and Gojo only respect those that are strong.
@wolfbrigade8042
@wolfbrigade8042 8 ай бұрын
@@Malthizar I honestly would have preferred if Gojo died himself in this hollow purple blast, causing Sukuna to be on the brink of death. Gojo dying with a smirk on his face trying to kill both himself and Sukuna would have been pretty fitting I think.
@Suki-xu9xs
@Suki-xu9xs 8 ай бұрын
The TCB translation has gojo saying Sukuna without 10 shadows is a close fight but he doesn’t say Sukuna would beat him. However the other glazing was so unnecessary and weird . I agree with your takes
@Malthizar
@Malthizar 8 ай бұрын
​@@wolfbrigade8042The issue is that we needed the line "your own cursed energy doesn't affect you as much" since that will come into play with Yuji v Sukuna. Plus there did need to be a definite winner. Gojo accidentally blowing himself up is kind of anticlimactic. Still, I'd rather accept that than what we got, which was Gojo turning into Yorozu and Sukuna with a technique that is likely able to 1 shot anything in any series
@mastermario11
@mastermario11 8 ай бұрын
Gege is the real villain for blotting out Gojo's actual death, it makes you start to wonder if he intends to COMPLETELY kill him off or if kenjaku, yuji will use his body/soul
@gintokiikari8541
@gintokiikari8541 8 ай бұрын
Who knows, it's Gege's world and they're all living in it. No character in JJK at this moment is above the death cutscene flashbacks tbh.
@AB-dd4jz
@AB-dd4jz 8 ай бұрын
He even wanted to kill Yuji after chap 9 but his editor stopped him since the manga was taking off, it seems to me that Gege hate his manga and forced himself to write it, for a while it was fine but when he sensed that he had a ton to write before finishing his story (after shibuya arc), he started rushing it and killing off many very important characters it is sad to me that a potential masterpiece is destroyed like this by its author. Killing off character sometimes to keep the reader on its toes is fine but destroying so many interesting ones that had something to bring to the story is a shame, from all the loveable ones we had in the beginning for me only Yuji remains since Megumi is braindead, Nobara might as well be dead, Miwa won't come back and Maki's personality is dead (she is Toji bis now) @@gintokiikari8541
@ducpham1478
@ducpham1478 8 ай бұрын
​@@gintokiikari8541No one, except Nanami cheated his death for the first time thanks to Yuji interference. Everyone else did not get that lucky though.
@DreiKusunoki
@DreiKusunoki 8 ай бұрын
Yuji the only person i don't mind getting an "asspull" power up when he's gonna fight Sukuna. He seriously need a powerup
@omegaminoseer4539
@omegaminoseer4539 8 ай бұрын
Yuji probably will never get that. Gege has it made up that Yuji is GOING to earn everything with blood and pain. The only person who suffers more is Megumi, who exists to be the narrative equivalent of a punching bag.
@2moreminutes
@2moreminutes 8 ай бұрын
Body swap ability was hinted so we'll see
@Calamity8
@Calamity8 8 ай бұрын
No Sukuna is already weak from using so much energy, taking damage to the brain and body. Sukuna will go out like a bitch but I am just happy Gege told the readers who actually is the strongest in the verse.
@wisespidey
@wisespidey 8 ай бұрын
​@@Calamity8takaba
@OugiEin
@OugiEin 8 ай бұрын
Just keeping consistent with Gege's style of writing fights. Don't think it'll be an "asspull" in a deus ex machina fashion. It seems Gege cares about consistency.
@wolfbrigade8042
@wolfbrigade8042 8 ай бұрын
I'm just worried that Gege has written himself into a corner with Sukuna's new stupidly overpowered ability. The students beating Sukuna now would be a borderline miracle (and a bit of an ass pull).
@itachilove22
@itachilove22 8 ай бұрын
He did say it was near impossible to pull off the attack, that doesn’t imply he can’t spam the move. It was probably him being faced with the prospect of dying that he was able to find the solution to bypass infinity, the same way were able to draw upon superhuman strength in the face of death or those we love dying.
@wolfbrigade8042
@wolfbrigade8042 8 ай бұрын
@@itachilove22 You said it yourself, Sukuna might be able to spam his new slash attack, which would pretty much mean game over for the other characters.
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 8 ай бұрын
​@wolfbrigade8042 and what would be the difference? Cleave already ignores durability This move is specifically only a buff for infinity users, and i guess sky manipulation You worry sukuna losing will be an asspull but gojo losing vs kenjaku so the story isnt instantly ended wouldn't be an asspull huh
@Imani626
@Imani626 8 ай бұрын
​@@blu3d3vil97sukuna said limitless is useless to his new technique because it targets space and universe itself so it's a stupidity overpowered technique no other character should even have a chance against him
@jimohabdulqudus4283
@jimohabdulqudus4283 8 ай бұрын
​@@Imani626No he said he expanded his technique around the space Gojo's infinity is. Similar to what Nanami did when he first fought mahito where he expanded his technique that lade the buildings fall on Mahito. That is literally what sukuna did..... And he had to learn it from Mahoraga.
@Matake2007
@Matake2007 8 ай бұрын
My issues w/ Gojo death and Sukuna: Gege made the six almost meaningless. Sukuna was doing more analysis of curse energy than Gojo during the whole fight. The problem with the final attack theory is that Gege just established the “spark.” Meaning no matter what, Gojo should’ve known an attack was coming. And if his six eyes were as useful as the show hyped them to be, he would’ve known something was up. As far as the Kashimo fight, unless Sukuna’s slash is magically nerfed, their fight will have no tension. Because we’ll know Sukuna is never about to really lose unless that attack fails, which how can THAT attack fail? Gege let his hate for Gojo open too many plot issues imo but here we are.
@xAfroMetalHead1990x
@xAfroMetalHead1990x 8 ай бұрын
Facts. %100 agree
@neil5694
@neil5694 8 ай бұрын
I think Kashimo's CT will interfere with Sukuna's CE or CT cause that'll give Yuji a chance.
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 8 ай бұрын
Gojo's six eyes were tricked before multiple times and he had to focus specifically just to see megumi's soul in sukuna Geto's body hid kenjaku He didn't see kenjaku in shibuiya for all the time he was there He didn't see prison realm and what it can do Didn't see what the black rope, inverted spear or soul split katana can do Mere flyheads blocked his six eyes vision when he was tired And he has never been shown to actually see dismantle and cleave When he seemed shocked at the first dismantle by sukuna, sukuna literally shouted "Dismantle", pointing his finger at gojo Then gojo is surprised the building behind him is cut Mahoraga is the only time sukuna's technique seemly was seen by something
@wishub
@wishub 8 ай бұрын
*gaygay
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 8 ай бұрын
​@kamijk if he dodged it why was the hit aimed where his torso was
@chatyxd6078
@chatyxd6078 8 ай бұрын
I expected gojo to die, I think we all did, but most of us assumed it'd be a pretty even match up. Gojo and Sukuna would go neck and neck until sukuna is forced to use yozuru's gift or his ct. And honestly the way he ends up beating gojo isn't even THAT bad but it was handled terribly. Maybe we should've it build up, like sukuna sends a cleave at gojo and something feels off, a second one and it hits gojo, and finally the last hit cleaves him in two. Gojo has been built up to be stronger than sukuna so having sukuna, apparently pretty easily, just kill gojo feels like wasted pay off, especially since Gojo fucking earned that victory to, he worked his ass off to come up with a way to deal with his 2v1 (sometimes 3v1). No one else at the moment is even close enough to sukunas power level to kill him and if kashimo does it'll feel anti climatic if he wins and underwhelming if he doesn't.
@thed_ani
@thed_ani 8 ай бұрын
Gojo was only stronger than sukuna before the shibuya arc, where he didn’t consume all of his fingers, the sukuna we see in the fight is basically a sukuna that had a near limitless curse energy supply, and has access to the ten shadows techniques, which is why gojo in the dream like scene says that “sukuna didnt even go all out on him” and we know this since sukuna didnt even try to use the black box technique on gojo, and was more or less running a test drive on mahoraga to see if he could broaden his interpretation of cleave/slash
@ArantyrDarkhand
@ArantyrDarkhand 8 ай бұрын
Everyone with basic knowledge in how a story its structured KNEW Gojo would be removed from the story IN THIS FIGHT... but the way it was done. its exactly how i told it would. Go. The way it was PRESENTED was bad... the GOjo character destruction was awfull.
@hectorfabiantorrontegui987
@hectorfabiantorrontegui987 8 ай бұрын
I really find hard to think that Gojo of all people would even let Sukuna had a chance to raise his arm, after what he experienced Toji’s master plan and got trapped by Kenjaku, he is the right people to be aware of how meaningful a foe can be that giving them a chance can be a fatal mistake, I would like to see what Gege’s come as the way of how Sukuna manage to cut him
@itspossiblyvertigo1232
@itspossiblyvertigo1232 8 ай бұрын
What you said makes no sense. No one not even gojo could EVER dodge sukuna’s slashes no one. So gojo being able to dodge any of sukunas slashes would be an asspull. They are essentially immediate. They always have been. Only thing able to do anything to his slashes was mahoraga who deflected it once it adapted. Gojo was close to full strength and still had his infinity up but sense sukuna learned to target the space around infinity he immediately used it to cut down gojo. He had no time to react. He was alive then he wasn’t
@astoflo8793
@astoflo8793 8 ай бұрын
@@itspossiblyvertigo1232the cutting space thing is also a big ass pull and he’s trying to say they gojo would probably be more on edge seeing how many times he’s been caught lacking mentally. Also with how fast his brain can function and he didn’t think sukuna raising his arm wasn’t a little out of the ordinary is suspicious.
@CosmicInertia
@CosmicInertia 8 ай бұрын
​@astoflo8793 Sukuna doesn't need to raise his arm to slice though and we've seen dismantle/cleave catch him off guard afew times even though he seen it coming
@themacdaddy1749
@themacdaddy1749 8 ай бұрын
@@astoflo8793how is it an ass pull it literally took the whole fight an planning to let maharago adapt to his infinity. You do realize the infinity is the only thing that keep gojo in this for as long as he did.
@seyio1717
@seyio1717 8 ай бұрын
​@@themacdaddy1749it is an ass pull because how are other characters suppose to have a fighting chance against him now stop doing mental gymnastics
@deliciousdex4354
@deliciousdex4354 8 ай бұрын
My personal interpretation of what Gojo and Sukuna said is that the slash wasn't any different in its properties but in its application. This is why he says it would have been close even without the ten shadows. The ten shadows simply provided Sukuna with a new perspective. And given how inventive Sukuna has been as well as his in depth understanding of jujutsu Gojo thinks that he could have still found a way to perform that slash.
@humblebeast9813
@humblebeast9813 8 ай бұрын
6:06 in Shibuya, mahoraga saw the slash coming to him and reacted fast enough to deflect it. So the slashes can definitely be anticipated
@itspossiblyvertigo1232
@itspossiblyvertigo1232 8 ай бұрын
That’s not true, mahoraga could only do that because he adapted. No one other then mahoraga could do anything to sukunas slashes including gojo. Gojo wouldn’t take damage from them if they weren’t from sukuna’s domain expansions. Otherwise sukunas’s slahses were a non factor.
@IsThatAThaiName
@IsThatAThaiName 8 ай бұрын
He adapted to be able to see it
@humblebeast9813
@humblebeast9813 8 ай бұрын
@@IsThatAThaiName yeah the first guy already told me buddy
@IsThatAThaiName
@IsThatAThaiName 8 ай бұрын
@@humblebeast9813 I didn’t read all the comments pal
@humblebeast9813
@humblebeast9813 8 ай бұрын
@@IsThatAThaiName there was only 1 to read my guy. Idk how you missed it but okay
@user-783hhss7w2oifhe
@user-783hhss7w2oifhe 8 ай бұрын
This is just a theory. But I think the reason Gojo said Sukuna might have won even without 10S is because the space slash was an extension technique. Usually, extension techniques are acquired through training and learning yout CT to a higher level. So, theoretically, Sukuna could've learnt space cutting without Maho, but it would've taken way too much time and resources. So instead he skipped the learning process, used Maho like a supercomputer to solve the 'Infinity' equation, just so he can conserve himself foe the Jump Kaisen that's about to happen
@jimohabdulqudus4283
@jimohabdulqudus4283 8 ай бұрын
I don't think he would learn it in time tbh.... Even with Mahoraga, he learnt it at die minute & called it nearly impossible to do.
@last0titan
@last0titan 8 ай бұрын
These reviews are the best because there's no nonsense trolling between every other sentence, just straight to the point. love it.
@_KITE
@_KITE 8 ай бұрын
Once this fight gets animated, it will become painfully obvious just how badly Gege handled Gojo's death
@yaboiiunclephil1552
@yaboiiunclephil1552 8 ай бұрын
Idk what theyre even gonna do because we dont even see Gojo get cut.
@_KITE
@_KITE 8 ай бұрын
they'll have to do *something* because it will make no sense to see remote Hollow Purple followed by Goko's corpse -- only then to see Kashimo, Urame, and Hakari just spawn out of thin air@@yaboiiunclephil1552
@SanOcelotl
@SanOcelotl 7 ай бұрын
i hope they change that if the anime gets to it
@saucekay6793
@saucekay6793 8 ай бұрын
9:38 I think the reason gojo said he’s not sure if he would’ve won if sukuna didn’t have 10s is because he had a feeling that eventually, sukuna would’ve found a way even if not for mahoraga. It’s just that maha was a significantly faster and easier way to do it. Sukuna is from an era where advancing your CT is an everyday thing.
@artemkuchuk3073
@artemkuchuk3073 8 ай бұрын
Perhaps. Although when we look from sukuna's pov he mentioned how it was nearly impossible to pull off. Hence assuming that sukuna would have found the solution himself before dying is not likely.
@toothlesshewhoreignsoverdr1190
@toothlesshewhoreignsoverdr1190 8 ай бұрын
Without Mahoraga it would take him longer, and that gives less time for Sukuna to learn how to bypass Infinity, because Satoru would dominate before he even learns how
@saucekay6793
@saucekay6793 8 ай бұрын
@@artemkuchuk3073 well not exactly 4D cutting abilities😭🤣 but just a way to make something work yk, if he can deal with UV
@saucekay6793
@saucekay6793 8 ай бұрын
@@toothlesshewhoreignsoverdr1190 that is true, but heian era sukuna would approach differently. Remember sukuna was adapting mahoraga during DE clash so he had to take an ass whooping, when he had DA on he wasn’t adapting, and he wasn’t getting thrashed with it on. I think heian era sukuna would focus more on attacking his barrier. But you could honestly be 100% correct.
@dumbassdude8372
@dumbassdude8372 8 ай бұрын
Yup, But gojo also views CE as a basis of strength. He said yuta can surpass him due to him having boundless CE and sukuna also has a lot of CE. If you can keep up with gojo until he is exhausted you will win.
@kaikishi2892
@kaikishi2892 8 ай бұрын
You’re my favorite jjk youtuber. It’s completely biased bc you spit facts(my opinions) but it’s all logical and just wanna say I love the content keep it up bro
@l7iq
@l7iq 8 ай бұрын
Perfectly explained bro keep up the good content 🤙
@josephlerma4991
@josephlerma4991 8 ай бұрын
I think that since Mahoraga was defeated Gojo thought that the adaptation was gone with Mahoraga so when sukuna shot a cleave at him, he probably thought that it wasn’t going to affect him. That being said I think this was too big of a moment for an off screen to occur and some of the dialogue talking about whether Gojo could have won is blatantly contradicted in the fight
@itspossiblyvertigo1232
@itspossiblyvertigo1232 8 ай бұрын
All of sukunas slashes are instant. So what’s the panel supposed to show??? Even gojo didn’t know he was dead so why would there be a panel of us being shown he’s dead when he doesn’t know he’s dead. Make it make sense.
@Imani626
@Imani626 8 ай бұрын
​@@itspossiblyvertigo1232nothing of what you say makes any sense at all, Gege went for shock value to kill of gojo and it comes off as really poor writing to go from gojo winning to next moment his dead
@Imani626
@Imani626 8 ай бұрын
@@ahmadadnan4773 you didn't understand anything I said so it's useless to waste my time
@mtf_savage_beasts2565
@mtf_savage_beasts2565 8 ай бұрын
If that's the case than Gojo six eyes are just useless. His six eyes should have told him something gonna happen after all his six eyes analysis attacks and curse energy to atomic level.
@cubxnblood
@cubxnblood 8 ай бұрын
⁠@@itspossiblyvertigo1232sukunas slashes are not instant mahoraga deflects them in shibuya
@PraiseYeezus
@PraiseYeezus 8 ай бұрын
My issues with this chapter: 1) The entire afterlife. No mention of his students, at all? So Gojo's entire character is only about being Goku and fighting strong people, when the whole point of Hidden Inventory was that being strong on your own is insufficient? Plus, how the heck is Gojo's impression of the fight "I probably can't beat this guy even without Mahoraga"? Did Gege remember what he wrote...? Mahoraga saved Sukuna on several occasions 2) Gojo's death. I liked what you said here about how it's possible that the cut was instant in space rather than flying, and about how Gojo probably thought he could just tank it. But still, this part was so inconsistent it's a bit shocking. Gojo was literally hit with that exact same slash mere seconds before (remember, when Gojo killed Agito right after losing his arm, the purple came 41 seconds later). You would think he''d see that and think "huh, that slash was different, better watch out for that". The Six Eyes absolutely should've been able to discern Sukuna's intention, especially since Gege went out of his way to tell us in the prior chapter that you can sense when someone is coming with an attacked based on their cursed energy. Honestly, Gojo being caught off guard like this is bad writing, and I very rarely say that about Gege. If Gojo's infinity was down after the self-destruct, or he succumbed to the strain of overusing limitless, or any other most-plausible event happened, Gojo's death scene (minus the weird characterization) would've been amazing. The panel of him laying on the ground is one of the most visceral panels I've ever seen. But this execution was just...sigh.
@sindalanboy
@sindalanboy 8 ай бұрын
Gege got too excited to kill off gojo 😭
@simplysage3562
@simplysage3562 8 ай бұрын
Mere You prob get this a lot but you sound like a deeper voiced Broken Ronin But you content styles are different slightly i like how you speak slower and it feels as if your vids are more refined Also your restrospectives are great Keep it up brother!!
@kinoux09
@kinoux09 8 ай бұрын
I was waiting for your vid bro loool. Gege trolling us 🤣
@Oggoatzart
@Oggoatzart 8 ай бұрын
If you are able to cut through time you might in fact be faster than time itself I don’t think the attack against gojo was just fast it was instant and actually unavoidable
@denniskirden8701
@denniskirden8701 8 ай бұрын
TLDR: Gojo should've dodged it at least, or used RCT to heal himself because if Sukuna can see the ignition of a CT, why couldn't Gojo (with the six eyes) do it? In 235, the concept of curse technique ignition was introduced. The start of a CT is an ignition that a sorcerer can use to know what attack is coming. In 235, Sukuna saw the ignition of red in Gojo and planned to have Mahoraga tank it in order to adapt to it. What Gojo released was a red limitless attack. However, he didn't shoot it at Sukuna and decided to combine it with the blue to make the Hollow purple, ending 235 with a victory for Gojo (Kusakabe said it was his win not the author) If Sukuna can see the sparks / ignition of a CT and accurately know what attack is coming, why couldn't Gojo do the same? Assuming it was instantaneous, couldn't he have used RCT to heal himself?
@unit0156
@unit0156 8 ай бұрын
sukuna was fester than gojo angels says if gojo dosnt have infinity the fight is over
@GigaNiga483
@GigaNiga483 8 ай бұрын
​@@denniskirden8701Totally wrong. Gojo's 6 eyes can't see it coming. Chapter 224 is the prove of it. Dodge ? Gojo couldn't do it in MS so no the cut was cleave extension
@fackyoutube8452
@fackyoutube8452 8 ай бұрын
@@GigaNiga483you can’t dodge a hit in a domain it’s a sure hit my guy
@detrimental5190
@detrimental5190 8 ай бұрын
Ye mere just giving his opinion i dont think he understands what speed is
@tyrecejose
@tyrecejose 8 ай бұрын
Yuta and Hakari being next in line of becoming "the strongest" in the jjk verse seems a bit of a stretch now😅 Ever since the battle of the strongest, Gojo and Sukuna really showcased just how big of a margin there is between them and the other sorcerers. If yuta and hakari wish to jump Sukuna now, I don't know man Sukuna might show us what he's cursed technique is and it's probably OP as well. Remember Sukuna has more CE than Yuta. The power scaling in Jjk just went to new since the release the current chapter. I'ma wait for #237 to see what Gege cooks up again 😂
@ithrean_397
@ithrean_397 8 ай бұрын
Only valid video I’ve seen regarding the fight
@kotasake
@kotasake 8 ай бұрын
Big W being one of the few to not put spoilers in the thumbnail
@s.h.s2656
@s.h.s2656 8 ай бұрын
Sukuna said that he wanted a "Model", like he was testing an ability or crafting something, So it is reasonable that he held back to an extend and was protective toward Maharaja more than himself at some point.. in the end his model was proved to be true.. this explains his gratitude and happiness, Also explains why Gojo said "He wasn't giving it all he had"... About the final slash, I think it was during the explosion.
@khalilwilson2586
@khalilwilson2586 8 ай бұрын
I have a few question that I would like answers to. If this was going to be the conclusion all along why even have Gojo reach 120% and land the purple? Why didn’t sukuna use this technique before getting nuked and losing mahoroga? How was sukuna able to survive an above 100% purple if he stated a 100% woudl be fatal? Why couldn’t Gojo see the ‘spark’ they just brought up for the first time the chapter before? Why didn’t Sukuna’s cleave do this in MS?
@wolverine8238
@wolverine8238 8 ай бұрын
That’s exactly what I was thinking, why didn’t he throw it when gojo and mahoraga were in the air? I mean he shot a piercing blood at the technique why didn’t he slash gojo with this instead since there isn’t any real travel time to this technique?
@wolverine8238
@wolverine8238 8 ай бұрын
Also wouldn’t gojos six eyes explain to him how mahoraga got passed infinity with the slash that took his arm?
@khalilwilson2586
@khalilwilson2586 8 ай бұрын
⁠@@wolverine8238exactly my point, the 6 E sees CE on a molecular level but they didn’t show him that mahoroga could slash reality itself? I need to know where the ‘spark’ was for thsi attack. Why even bring it up just for it to be disregarded the next chapter😂
@gintokiikari8541
@gintokiikari8541 8 ай бұрын
To answer the very last question, I have a question that would hopefully answer yours. Did Sukuna, at any point during the first 4 domain clashes use Mahoraga. You know what, scratch that. With the exception of the Darma chakra wheel he placed (which just made Mahoraga adapt to UV, so it doesn't even count as an offensive move in this argument) , DID HE EVEN USE A SINGLE THING RELATED TO ADAPTION FROM THE 10S ? From the explanation, Sukuna had Mahoraga adapt to limitless. But he didn't let Mahodaddy stop there. He let the adaptation figure out a method to ruin limitless, that he (Sukuna) can use. All Sukuna did was take the role of a punching bag (remember those clown times) whiles the adaption figured out a way to actively damage limitless. When ready, he learned from the final method, and used it when Gojo exhausted himself after the max technique. How could Sukuna use a method born from Mahoragas adaptation at a point in the fight when he never even touched the 10S. All the those shirty ass slashes in the first 4 clashes were from his CT given to shrine, not from adaptation. This questions always angers me because unlike the others, this one has a logical (not even Gege forced) explanation if you actually read Sukunas explanation. Bitter fans really doing their best to make Gege look like the biggest hack in shounen rn.
@zillva
@zillva 8 ай бұрын
You seem to misunderstand a few things: 1 - Sukuna thought the 200% purple was 120%, and therefore really expected a 160% purple rather than a normal 100% 2 - The remote purple might not even reach 100% normal output given how it was activated. 3 - Gojo was not at 120%, because of how much his output had dropped beforehand, and just wemt back up to 100 again 4 - Cleave needs a reference before it adjusts (assuming the first doesn't already kill), so it has to hit twice. Shrine counts as one, then the second is almost guaranteed to be fatal depending on where it connects.
@semekiizuio
@semekiizuio 8 ай бұрын
Yay Mere video, were you been? Hard to avoid the chaos
@ideenlos9242
@ideenlos9242 8 ай бұрын
Sukuna used Mahorage and the 10 Shadows on Yorozu. He also used cleave on Juji. Apart from the Domain (which he also used before) he treated Gojo like fodder. He used the same techniques on Gojo as on Juji and Yorozu. He never needed Megumis body, its just a way to have less work to do. Just let the Chikigami do all the work and relax, Sukuna is lazy not weak
@AnimeNerd500
@AnimeNerd500 8 ай бұрын
The only problem i see is that why does gojo say goodbye to all the people who are already dead if he is also dead.
@mvgikk1969
@mvgikk1969 8 ай бұрын
it was a mistranslation
@UPComer22
@UPComer22 8 ай бұрын
Gojo would know it's coming (from the rule we got with the gojos red a few chapters back about big attacks having a wind-up) but think he could tank it. Also, Gojo has been shown to be slower than cleave. Without infinity, he can't dodge it.
@Dissolveee
@Dissolveee 8 ай бұрын
The goat dropped
@mpacko93
@mpacko93 8 ай бұрын
Hey, loved the video but I have some push back regarding your second theory of Gojo sleeping on Sukuna. In preparation of the fight as Gojo and co walked down the stairs Gojo was brooding so much so Yuji had to remind him to turn of infinity. All the way through the fight Gojo didn’t once let his guard down whilst fighting Sukuna and even in his dream scene he said Sukuna didn’t go all out. Logically speaking if you are fighting someone who’s stronger than you (no matter how many “points you score”) you’re not once letting you guard down until victory is insured. So I don’t think Gojo got caught lacking like that. First theory I agree with but I’m still pained by Goatjo’s off screen
@MasterArceus200
@MasterArceus200 8 ай бұрын
When sukuna was shocked by yuji strength, the latter didn't get amped by just his rage, but because Kenjaku did something with him. In fact, sukuna comments right after with "right, he is from back there. That damn kenjaku sure is wicked"
@bazzathebaptist5564
@bazzathebaptist5564 8 ай бұрын
I feel like, despite how OP Sukuna cutting space is, the point where Yuji fits is the fact that he is steeped in Sukana's CE similarly to how the hollow purple nuke did next to nothing to Gojo. P. S. If Sukuna didn't have Marhoraga, man wouldve died 2 chapters ago. I addition, I genuinely don't care who is stronger (fraudkuna etc) I just found it weirdly written with how Gojo stated he might not have won against Sukuna without 10S. I fully expected Sukuna to get weakened and then win but the self doubt of Gojo was a bit of a crazy 180 to me.
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 8 ай бұрын
Ps gojo's own words contradict you How hard is it to remember how gojo calls sukuna for taking every unnecessary risk...
@dumbassdude8372
@dumbassdude8372 8 ай бұрын
Cope. Gojo shouldve died to toji
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 8 ай бұрын
@@dumbassdude8372 i mean, toji was written in the story AFTER gojo was already written 10 years older than their encounter Literally couldn't write gojo dying prior to that
@notarapper8435
@notarapper8435 8 ай бұрын
@@vibe7416cope just admit sukuna is stronger and sukuna beat gojo with a technique he used for one week.😊😅😂😂
@jamesnicol8352
@jamesnicol8352 8 ай бұрын
​@@notarapper8435fraudkuna had to run to daddy mahoraga boohoo
@a.c.8083
@a.c.8083 7 ай бұрын
It’s so over it’s never been so over before.
@Masseycre
@Masseycre 8 ай бұрын
Plot Twist: The Cursed Spirit brain(Kenjaku) is Sukuna's brain from his Cursed Spirit Form & Tengen is the body. It was Sukuna's plan all along to create an age where Jujutsu is more evolved, stronger, and sorcerer's are stronger, smarter, and have greater potential. So he can have a battle of equals to either die or find a friend or find love because he doesn't want to be alone anymore or die that way. The barriers tengen had up were the last culling games but were only meant to optimize Cursed Energy in order to constantly evolve Jujutsu & Sorcerer's in order to create a sorcerer/Cursed Spirit to rival him.
@thepowerscaler3378
@thepowerscaler3378 8 ай бұрын
I believe that Sukuna holding back was him not using his 'Open' technique and Yorozu's gift
@fortress7493
@fortress7493 8 ай бұрын
of course, this was hinted before this chapter that Sukuna isn't giving it all he had and only sticking to one plan to preserrve himself and not allow others to see his cards. Sukuna was playing a marathon while Gojo was sprinting
@xyzdestruction
@xyzdestruction 8 ай бұрын
​@@fortress7493and sadly gojo lost the race
@Matake2007
@Matake2007 8 ай бұрын
That’s only logical if any of his original attacks would’ve gotten past infinity. Which based on the strategy he entered the fight with, it’d be safe to assume the answer is no. Which is why that dialogue from Gojo is so dumb.
@xyzdestruction
@xyzdestruction 8 ай бұрын
@@Matake2007 that's only logical if we assume sukuna is dumb and assume we know everything he's capable of, gojo's statement implies he could've figured out a way to get past infinity even without mahoraga, and sukuna won't reveal his cards and that means he's still got power to spare. recognize you're coping Jesus christ
@tony3017
@tony3017 8 ай бұрын
​@@Matake2007lol why its safe to say no...typical gojotards 😂😂😂😂....heian era sukuna would ragdoll gojo....even mid ass kakashi copycat admitted that sukuna without 10s would beat him ...this is coming from someone who has 6 eyes and is cocky one....so you're just coping at this point😂😂
@seen.3
@seen.3 8 ай бұрын
At this point I want the villains to win and it all ends with both sides dying and no one’s left
@gvidaspekus8711
@gvidaspekus8711 8 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more... after Google death I don't care no more...
@xdoomsday8772
@xdoomsday8772 8 ай бұрын
RIP google@@gvidaspekus8711
@jwoz8517
@jwoz8517 8 ай бұрын
Shit I agree bro, literally the only ending that makes sense at this point. Or All students and good guys die, and they do a timeskip
@6PathsGohan
@6PathsGohan 8 ай бұрын
W vid as always
@yuvraj..6741
@yuvraj..6741 5 ай бұрын
1. Sukuna doesn't need to raise his hands to make a slash. He can use them with his brain alone 2. His slashes are instantaneous and invisible so that's why they can't be Dodged (*even 6 eyes can't be see them unless you are maho able to adapt to it)
@ComplaciantTeenagers
@ComplaciantTeenagers 8 ай бұрын
The reason Gojo didn't dodge is super simple. Throughout the ENTIRE fight every time Sukuna threw a dismantle or cleave slash Gojo wouldn't move out of the way because he was certain infinity would stop the slash (see the beginning of the fight where he cuts the building in half by shooting a slash that Gojo just let infinity tank). I'm assuming Gojo just expected a regular slash and didn't move because of that, essentially he was caught off guard. If he had known the attack would bypass infinity I think he could have easily dodged it.
@itshurtt395
@itshurtt395 8 ай бұрын
Bro just copied what the video said💀
@karayi7239
@karayi7239 7 ай бұрын
the cursed energy of the regular slash and the space-cutting are different. Considering gojo already got his arm cut off by that very same ability, he should've been able to see that it's NOT a regular slash.
@willft520
@willft520 8 ай бұрын
I think Kenjaku is gonna change the normal flow of events pretty soon. He might end up interrupting Sukuna VS Kashimo or he's gonna attack the students. Yuji and Choso vs Kenjaku might be a thing. I honestly think Yuji's next power up comes through facing Kenjaku, learning about his origin, his mother and father, his pact of becoming a vessel for Sukuna and his purpose of existence from Kenjaku's point of view. Maybe Yuji gets to eat Mahito or even Kenjaku. Maybe Kenjaku takes Gojo's body... there are so many possibilities!
@NEBULA112
@NEBULA112 8 ай бұрын
if you remember all the way back in culling games, Mei Mei mentioned how one way a sorcerer can gain power is by creating a binding vow in exchange for the sorcerer's life, do you think this could come into play in one of these big fights?
@jakezadorski8323
@jakezadorski8323 8 ай бұрын
In premature death, gojo tells toji "you should have cut off my head" and with him getting spacially cleaved through the stomach I bet he'll come back.
@Nigel514
@Nigel514 8 ай бұрын
I agree with you this chapter felt off like a chapter was missing i had no problem with Gojo dying it's the manner in how quickly he died when he was on top on hollow purple and revitalised RCT
@semekiizuio
@semekiizuio 8 ай бұрын
Yup I wanted to see the death, Gojo choking on his own blood. Shocked as us understand what the hell happened and why half his body was standing half on the floor. His head and heart were attached, the attack might have been instantaneous but his death should not have been. Not when our girl Yuki was also split in half, still talking and fighting before the rest of her body gave out. This could have been a great scene, Gojo eyes widen as his upper body torso get knocked back choking on his blood while Sukuna walks towards him and looks down on him with glee as he begins to explain. Gojo can only listen, maybe crack a joke and says his students will win before finally breathing his last.
@drsh1711
@drsh1711 8 ай бұрын
It was hinted many times that if you can understand or see through a technique you can bypass it, like when - Mahito who was undamagable because he could change his soul's shape was damaged by Yuji because he also understood the shape of soul - Maki could suddenly cut even the souls using Soul Split Katana, because she learned how to see the souls that are to be cut - Yorozu who said perfect sphere was instant kill didn't even affect Mahoraga because he "saw through" or 'grasped" the sphere - Yuki couldnt be targeted by concepts because no one understood her body having that heavy of a mass Similarly Sukuna understood that even though the infinity is dividing the space infinitely, the space itself is finite and if the finite space itself is cut, Infinity would mean nothing
@frogmin7994
@frogmin7994 8 ай бұрын
literally this, this is the real answer
@3drom988
@3drom988 8 ай бұрын
Bro i saw an early leak and my heart sunk. I kinda knew Gojo had to die for the plot to properly progress but seeing it happen really kicked me in the ribs. I wonder what they will do with Gojo's body now, either kenjaku or sukuna should have some use for it? not meaning resurrection here, i agree Gojo's time in the show is over, but i would think the corpse of the former strongest should be worth something for the body snatching villains.
@dariusquinn1326
@dariusquinn1326 8 ай бұрын
Mere what good 💯
@Ace-0f-Spadez
@Ace-0f-Spadez 8 ай бұрын
For anyone saying sukuna held back he didn’t he was just limited in what he could do due to infinity. Also I quite like the fight as a whole but I am kinda disappointed with how gojo got off screened and then starts doubting himself heavily even when sukuna said the slash he pulled off was nearly impossible but he did it with maho I also rrly don’t like haibara saying gojo never cared abt anyone when he clearly cared abt his students. Kashigoat for the win!
@jj6184
@jj6184 8 ай бұрын
I think this chapter is trying to show gojos and sukuna pov gojo got killed before he could understand what happened and all ten shadows were gone which is why one it does not show him getting slashed because gojo did not see it and also why gojo thought sukuna is stronger because he just one shot TLDR gojo voice is not the author voice but instead it’s just what he thinks based off the knowledge he knows
@jj6184
@jj6184 8 ай бұрын
Also this shows them in their teenage years where nanami asked why can’t gojo just do all the jobs since he is the strongest which is why he does not think gojo cared because he could basically do Everything but he did not. Even as an adult he said he does not respect gojo. Also gojos reaction did not agree with the statement
@cornbread9512
@cornbread9512 8 ай бұрын
Holding back and being limited are 2 separate things we literally do not know what else he has up his sleeves so to say he can’t use them because of infinity when we don’t know if they can affect gojo or not regardless of infinity is cope.
@nigou7550
@nigou7550 8 ай бұрын
nah nah, he was holding back, because he quite literally couldnt afford to go all out, if he spent himself on gojo, he wouldve become a free eat for any semi strong person after he won
@jimohabdulqudus4283
@jimohabdulqudus4283 8 ай бұрын
​@@cornbread9512I would have said that if he didn't say it was nearly impossible even when he got the blueprints. And mind you, this blueprints only came roughly a minute before Gojo blew everywhere. This already shows that sukuna has nothing that can bypass infinity.
@yaboisoe178
@yaboisoe178 8 ай бұрын
Yk what mere i LOVE your explanation for gojo saying he would’ve lost to sukuna if he didn’t have 10 shadows it makes sense I wanted sukuna too win but there is just NO WAY sukuna wins without mahoraga 💯
@theyfwsam2046
@theyfwsam2046 8 ай бұрын
In the dismantle earlier in the fight when he hit the building gojo wasnt able to react to the initial slash only the impact from the building, even gojo isnt able to dodge cleave. Only an adapted mahoraga could deflect cleave so its pretty safe to assume at this point that unless your mahoraga its straightup undodgeable.
@reidcacaro2919
@reidcacaro2919 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for not spoiling the latest chapter with your thumbnail like a lot of the KZbinr covering it have done. Fucking enemy stand user spoiled it before the official chapter even released and I could read it.
@Cosmosdestructor
@Cosmosdestructor 8 ай бұрын
Speaking of Yuji, I have an Idea. He absorbed the Death Paintings, right? And all of the Death Paintings have blood manipulation thanks to them being the children of Noritoshi Kamo(aka Kenjaku). What if, by absorbing the Death Paintings, Yuji gained an extremely amped version of blood manipulation(because the Death Paintings are all Special Grades)?
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 8 ай бұрын
Best case he got multiple variations of blood manipulation If any at all
@manjithmanoj6383
@manjithmanoj6383 8 ай бұрын
Sukuna just received a huge buff now he doesn't even need his domain against anything he can cut space so even a simple cleave can kill anyone and noone can defend against it cause it's cutting space imagine ryu met this version of sukuna he won't be able to tank it like he did the first time
@OneEyedOwl__
@OneEyedOwl__ 8 ай бұрын
Video idea, How would Geto preform in Sendai colony in Yuta’s place?
@AtenSol12
@AtenSol12 8 ай бұрын
i mean, the actual thing thst happens an the true explanation of MH ability is dope tho. and the fact that sukuna can match that is also pretty dope. itd have been cool if we got to see that but if gege says it feels like he missed a chapter, idunno that kinda makes me think thats gonna be the next chapter
@shmeatyg
@shmeatyg 8 ай бұрын
I think if we simply had like 2-3 panels of Sukuna raising his hand, then saying cleave or dismantle before where the actually chapter started or at the end of last chapter none of this controversy would be happening. The fight itself was great, the explanation for how Sukuna won makes sense, all of their abilities were established before hand. Both characters put up a great performance with them even respecting each other at the end even though they both have planet sized ego's. Also I've seen people saying that the manga said Gojo won last chapter making the latest chapter feel like an ass pull. It's clear that it was one of the characters watching the fight saying that and not a narrator.
@Jummugest
@Jummugest 8 ай бұрын
Yeah that wasn’t a narrator I think. Cause it flowed with the conversation.
@catsdogzt3515
@catsdogzt3515 8 ай бұрын
Gojo once said "Dying to win and risking death to win are two different things"
@kled6566
@kled6566 8 ай бұрын
he did risk death to win so he stood true to his advice he gave to megumi, especially during the constant domain expansions, you could tell by the nose bleed he was pushing his limits
@danfoxdude
@danfoxdude 8 ай бұрын
Bro explained the new slash so well Sukuna might be on the same tier for soloing verses as Gojo now with these new hax
@prwa911
@prwa911 8 ай бұрын
There's just something about this chapter that makes it feel different than the other recent ones and i don't necessarily mean bad since it was still very good(and made me cry) but just weird maybe a bit rushed in the way we get thown into Gojo's death or how Gojo just accepts his loss and everything sort off moves on, maybe i thought that there would be a little bit more pay off for all the build up there was, i honestly don't know if it's just my imagination or maybe i'm getting it wrong idk.
@-Verycardhock
@-Verycardhock 8 ай бұрын
Gojo wasn't affected as much by his own cursed energy when he used purple and got caught in the blast so what if Yuji ate the last sukuna finger or because he had them soaking in him he has sukuna cursed energy. This could make cleave and dismantle nullified.
@futureagar5901
@futureagar5901 8 ай бұрын
Not completely nullified just less affective
@ignacio1085
@ignacio1085 8 ай бұрын
Just give the finger to Rika
@ignacio1085
@ignacio1085 8 ай бұрын
Wait
@vatsaljanani7603
@vatsaljanani7603 8 ай бұрын
Death was never a problem... But death with no purpose is the biggest reason for hate rn... Gojo died without doing anything.... Like saving megumi or giving giving getos body burial etc.... Also gege himself created plot holes like every attack have a spark... Sukuna without six eyes was able to deduce gojos attack.... Were six eyes that weak
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 8 ай бұрын
Skill vs natural ability
@vatsaljanani7603
@vatsaljanani7603 8 ай бұрын
@@blu3d3vil97 what ?? Man you ok😂
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 8 ай бұрын
@vatsaljanani7603 u complain about six eyes not seeing shit Gojo had six eyes his whole life, never needed the skills to see shit Unlike anyone else
@xerxesalter
@xerxesalter 8 ай бұрын
​@@blu3d3vil97did u read the chapter 235 carefully or u just saw the panels only
@Imani626
@Imani626 8 ай бұрын
​@@xerxesalterI don't think he even read anything
@Biothermiac
@Biothermiac 8 ай бұрын
I wanna see Inumaki get to do something in the fight vs Sukuna/Kenjaku, he's been explored as a character the least and he could be really clutch in the fight against Sukuna/Kenjaku telling them not to move or just to straight up die while catching them off-guard could be extremely effective or give another character (like Itadori or Okkotsu) to land the final hit.
@sebatroniczero2718
@sebatroniczero2718 8 ай бұрын
As you said in between chapters sukuna seemed to heal but I noticed gojo did as well which means both took time between chapters to heal from max output purple which is why I’m confused on how sukuna got that shot off because gojo seemed to prioritize healing over finishing a weakened sukuna off
@AllBladesCut
@AllBladesCut 8 ай бұрын
6:22 I mean this just raises another question then, why was this single slash from a supposedly fatigued sukuna stronger then the domain from a much less tried one.
@aquatazer
@aquatazer 8 ай бұрын
I can’t remember specifically what happened in those earlier chapters, but it seems fairly likely that Gojo could have used Simple Domain or Domain Amplification to lower the amount of damage he received from Malevolent Shrine earlier.
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 8 ай бұрын
The domain slash also looks like a trade from strength to numbers One dismantle in the beginning was big enough to slice a building but the ones in MS weren't big enough to decapitate Its also that cleave adapts itself to the target durability so maybe gojo not being literally invincible to damage made cleave less effective in their small but plentiful numbers on the domain Like by lowering his defense he made it so his healing can outpace the slashes
@anshulanand02
@anshulanand02 8 ай бұрын
I hope gege explains everything in the next chapter😭
@reidcacaro2919
@reidcacaro2919 8 ай бұрын
12:04 you mention how todo says getting angry can be a buff to sorcerers but didn’t mention how in that same scene he tells yuji that getting angry can also lose you the fight. I think it’s a little unfair to say yuji gets amped when angry when the whole point of that convo was to calm yuji down. Only then was he able to land a black flash
@cww2490
@cww2490 8 ай бұрын
I think something people forget is the Sakuna's slashes are extremely fast. Jogo couldn't even react before the top of his head was cut off. And Gojo in their fight wasn't dodging Sakuna's slashes. They were in his domain, so its hard to say, but Marahaga's slash Gojo couldn't dodge. And if Gojo could even react he wouldn't have doubts he could block the attack, so why would he think to dodge?
@liamvt2
@liamvt2 8 ай бұрын
Sukuna didn't use his cursed technique that made him the strongest back in the day.. He used the 10 shadows to LEARN. This was practically a training arc for sukuna. First he wanted to eat gojo to gain his powers. When he realised he wasn't going to be able to do that he decided to learn from gojo in other ways. He never gave it his all, likely because that could have ended the fight without him actually being able to appreciate gojo and his mastery. He also wanted to learn how to use the 10 shadows and majoraga most likely and who better to test it on than gojo. Sukuna was only having trouble because he put a handicap on himself. This was the only way for him to have fun and give gojo an honorable fight. And Gojo noticed. Think about what sukuna gained this fight: -adaptation to infinity, including space slashing abilities. -the ability to regenerate his burned out curse technique. -the powers of majoraga likely distributed across the other shikigami. Had he just used his own curse technique that he mastered and actually given it his all, he likely would have killed gojo without learning from him. Sakuna still wants to be strongest, and for that its not enough to just obliterate his enemies. He has always been seen to respect the strong and try to learn from them. Yorozu also gave sukuna a gift we haven't seen yet. He has so many trump cards he didn't use yet in his fight with gojo.
@mannujc9871
@mannujc9871 8 ай бұрын
Sukuna was risking death to win, being hit by Unlimited Void, The black flash, having his Brain fried & all the other hits & still only last chapter was him starting to feel nervous (Very obvious reference to meruem) - This means that everything before that was within his plan & within acceptable margin. * As we see there is more than one way to bypass infinity & Gojo saying this still would have been a close call means he realised when he lost that Sukuna great strength, his mastery of jujutsu, could potentially allow him found a solution even without 10S * P.s: Just like 15F sukuna all over again, people thought Yuta could take him but as they saw more they realised how meaningfull it was to be Ryomen Sukuna strengthwise
@alswisha8519
@alswisha8519 8 ай бұрын
Gege Says it makes it SEEM like I've forgotten a chapter
@edwinmedina3687
@edwinmedina3687 8 ай бұрын
I like to think that what Gojo meant by Sukuna being able to win even without ten shadows is him acknowledging that Sukuna went into this fight having to create a win con for himself. Whereas Gojo had like 3 different win cons from the start. So he’s probably under the assumption that if ten shadows wasn’t an option Sukuna would have come up with a different win condition through other means. Not necessarily that his current kit could take him out.
@itsyaboi4544
@itsyaboi4544 8 ай бұрын
I think Gojo’s statement about Sukuna is saying that he would been able to beat infinity regardless, most likely implying Sukuna going all out from the start could still likely win or he’s smart enough to get the idea of making the new CT like he did without mahoraga, Sukuna tends to test with his encounters (ppl or techniques) like vs jogo, yurozu, and mahoraga, also remember Sukuna only felt worried pretty late in the fight, up until them Gojo had launched more domains, used more RCT, and Sukuna wasnt hard shadow stalling yet (hiding in shadows and stalling like Sukuna did is some broken ass shit btw)
@jimohabdulqudus4283
@jimohabdulqudus4283 8 ай бұрын
When did Gojo say he would be able to heat infinity regardless??
@phil2024x
@phil2024x 8 ай бұрын
I will explain: Gojo said that even if Sukuna did not have 10 shadows he would win simply because Sukuna would be able to come to the same conclusion to what can or cannot counter mugen. Mahoraga only helped Sukuna to realise the solution faster.
@toothlesshewhoreignsoverdr1190
@toothlesshewhoreignsoverdr1190 8 ай бұрын
I don't think he would've even thought of cutting the space Gojo was in if not for Mahoraga. Sukuna admitted Mahoraga was his role model and blueprint, thus meaning if not for how Mahoraga did it, Sukuna won't do shit to Infinity, and Sukuna always aims for the head. I mean, if I was Sukuna, I don't think I'll even come to the conclusion to cut the space around Gojo. It would have been a stalemate, and even trying to figure out how to bypass Infinity will take too long and I would die before I even learn how.
@artemkuchuk3073
@artemkuchuk3073 8 ай бұрын
Sukuna used Mahoraga as a blueprint. He mentioned how he could not copy mahoraga's first adaption. He also said how what he did was nearly impossible to pull off. Without mahoraga as a blueprint the logical conclusion would be that sukuna would not be able to pull it off. Nothing is implied that sukuna would have come up with this on his own. It's pure assumption.
@Lightningtiger101
@Lightningtiger101 8 ай бұрын
everyone will cry and whine until its over.
@addictedtomints9433
@addictedtomints9433 8 ай бұрын
We can complain about not seeing the fight but it was totally unexpected and honestly a great plot twist from GeGe. Though like how Toji stabbed his own head, we can disagree with the direction but still agree that GeGe is a great writer.
@GreyLeo
@GreyLeo 8 ай бұрын
Bro seeing how the entire JJK community reacted was such a beautiful tragedy. It was beautiful because even tho the Mangaka hated him to the fans he meant so much more. Was like one of the rare breeds of just enough troll and a massive power house in his verse. The tragedy was how he went out. Also I feel like Sukuna will be defeated by Yuji and Megumi like how Fairy Tail handled Acknologia. Yuji will be fighting Sukuna's physical form while Megumi will be fighting Sukuna in the inner domain. Being that Both Yuji and Megumi are both basically Curse tools that have been soaked in Sukuna's Aura his Techniques might lack some power behind them when he faces those 2.
@MrAnimason
@MrAnimason 8 ай бұрын
Gege does not hate Gojo. It's a joke because Gojo is a self-insert for his real-life personality. Bro got his own arc. And his death is the good kind of tragedy.
@tone-xl6me
@tone-xl6me 8 ай бұрын
Sukuna dying that way will be the lamest shit ever.
@harshraj9266
@harshraj9266 8 ай бұрын
@@tone-xl6me yeah don't know why people are so excited over a generic dumb mc with the power of friendship defeating a 1000 yo 1000 iq demon lord, king of curses who can just cut reality.
@cooldeer4811
@cooldeer4811 8 ай бұрын
​@@tone-xl6methe way Gojo died also was lame so why not
@user-ee5bo9ux1r
@user-ee5bo9ux1r 8 ай бұрын
Besides the discrepancies of if Sukuna was holding back or not. Gojo literally stated that " im glad i got to die by someone who was stronger than me". The person who fought sukuna and analyzed him throughout the fight stated plainly that Sukuna is stronger than himself
@user-ee5bo9ux1r
@user-ee5bo9ux1r 8 ай бұрын
COPIUM!
@jimmybrooks2000
@jimmybrooks2000 8 ай бұрын
Exactly. This chapter just confirmed jjk fans can't read. Gojo literally hit Sukuna with everything and couldn't kill him. And the only times Gojo seriously hurt Sukuna was when he was adapting Mahoraga. Gojo saying Sukuna is stronger than him makes perfect sense
@2moreminutes
@2moreminutes 8 ай бұрын
As unsatisfying as it is all these entitled fans need to stop acting like they know more than the guy who wrote the damn story
@itachilove22
@itachilove22 8 ай бұрын
He was referring to Sukuna with 10S, he also says in the chapter that without the 10S it would have been a close fight. They’re relative in strength, the 10S is just a full counter to limitless.
@jimohabdulqudus4283
@jimohabdulqudus4283 8 ай бұрын
Sukuna with a 10S is stronger than him...He literally just killed him😅 Sukuna without it is losing...It would be a hard fight, But sukuna would still lose
@revan8467
@revan8467 8 ай бұрын
I saw a pretty cool animation where it fills in the gap between the two chapters and has voice acted dialogue between gojo and sukuna before the cut happens
@CryptomanXADVENT
@CryptomanXADVENT 8 ай бұрын
The 6 eyes can sense changes in CT so the slash woukd have been different to his eyes
@spainwithoutthes4376
@spainwithoutthes4376 8 ай бұрын
A few chaps ago we got the explanation of the cursed energy 'spark.' Basically a telegram to any powerful cursed technique. I see lots of people complaining about how gojos death was dumb and why sukuna was waiting for so long if he was really holding back and heres my personal explanation. Gojos six eyes can see this 'spark' in record time. It allows him to react to cursed techniques and cursed energy unlike anyone else, and its this spark which made sukuna wary of releasing his endgame slash because yk gojo would just sense it and dodge. Thats why he kept on piling up hits, and waiting, at the very moment when gojo thought he won. Why is that important? Well at the height of his victory, fresh off of black flash amps and the thrill of defeating the king of curses, was the only moment where gojo let his guard down thinking full well his victory was established. It was that moment which sukuna chose to let his newly adapted cleave rip, since at that unguarded moment gojo would be unable to react to it fast enough. Maybe you disagree, maybe not, but I recently reread the whole gojo vs sukuna fight and I believe everything that took place falls well within the parameters of what was possible. Its just when youre a weekly reader, you forget some key details here and there and thats understandable.
@jimmybrooks2000
@jimmybrooks2000 8 ай бұрын
8:54 Gojo said he was unsure if he would've beaten Sukuna without 10S. Not that he would absolutely lose. If you paid attention to the fight, Gojo saying it would be close even without 10S makes perfect sense.
@dumbassdude8372
@dumbassdude8372 8 ай бұрын
Gojo said in the beginning when he was still in yuji's body that killing sukuna would be hard but he can do it. Maybe he can, Because it would be tough for him to figure out infinity without mahoraga. But sukuna was the king of curses for a reason.
@jimmybrooks2000
@jimmybrooks2000 8 ай бұрын
@@dumbassdude8372 Exactly. Sukuna would still figure out how to counter infinity but it would take longer.
@Jmphomme
@Jmphomme 8 ай бұрын
Definitely a great ending Fuel added to a burning fire!!!
@dazai5315
@dazai5315 8 ай бұрын
I think gojo saw it as a regular cut and thought his infinity will block it , but instead he got cut in half as he didn't see the danger it held
@abbudi20111
@abbudi20111 8 ай бұрын
Makes sense, too bad gege didn't execute it properly and instead went for a cheap shock value
@dazai5315
@dazai5315 8 ай бұрын
@@abbudi20111 yeah gege really made it feel like a chapter in between was missing
@babaG819
@babaG819 8 ай бұрын
I think this arc or fight or whatever was awesome. Everything was foreshadowed and built upon before hand. It's also somewhat unconventional which is what we love about jjk and Gege. The "missing chapter" part included. There is no missing chapter. This is it. Sometimes you're on top and out of no where you're dead. Like what did you want? A stereotypical or straightforward kill? Gojo winning because you thought he would? Sukuna winning because you thought he would? I whole heartedly appreciate Gege for ending it this way. So be it people don't like it. It is what it is. And i like it.
@Bob.0-0boing
@Bob.0-0boing 8 ай бұрын
sukuna oneshotting an entire CITY has gotta be the biggest takeaway from 236 for me personally. So far in the series, everyone has had AT MOST large building feats, but sukuna clearly destroys AN ENTIRE CITY when we see the background in the panel where kasHIMo reappears. What really annoyed me about this chapter is the massive leap in strength of the verse. Sukuna with this one feat is now just the strongest character in the series hands down. For JJK to even be readable, something has to be done about the fact the power scaling just took a massive shit from jumping insanely high. Personally I don't think there's much hope for any character other than Gege's favorite (sukuna) to win against him unless there is yet another asspull scaling feat, like the one shown where Sukuna just blows every single JJK AP/DC feat out of the water, and it isn't even close, when looking at the feat that I just mentioned where he scales, saying that "it was expanding the technique's target. It's intended target wasnt just you, Gojo Satoru, but Space, the Entire World. Existence Itself... It targeted everything before it released those slashes.", and unless this direct quote from 236 is translated incorrectly, we just see what is blatantly the strongest single attack that a character has pulled off and SURVIVED. You can say that Yuki also could've destroyed the entire planet, but realistically she would never do something like that with her mass addition CT. Sukuna is really just insane but what really is more insane is how far this feat could've scaled to. What is sukuna's real power? will Gojo revive again? I honestly don't even know. shoutout to anyone who actually read all of this, I need some confirmation so I dont go crazy. what do you think about this take? Is JJK power scaling going to new heights or is it over for team Jujutsu High? Personally, I think its just over for jujutsu high. the king of curses is back... RIP gojo.(for now)
@Malthizar
@Malthizar 8 ай бұрын
Gege going this direction was almost meant as a way to respond to the fraud allegations for Sukuna. Like, he could have just said Gojo was pretending to be back to full strength but was heavily nerfed after that last Purple. Instead, if we take Sukuna at his word, his cleave makes him able to kill anything from any verse ever. Like, he can now just 1 shot Black Freeza or Beerus
@PraiseYeezus
@PraiseYeezus 8 ай бұрын
honestly not sure what you mean by that, i'm pretty sure most of that destruction came from Gojo's purple
@aquatazer
@aquatazer 8 ай бұрын
@@Malthizarthe “but Goku solos” stans are in shambles.
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 8 ай бұрын
​@@Malthizarbeerus can affect time space and even parallel realities Even with a space slash it aint going down
@shirothr5384
@shirothr5384 8 ай бұрын
​@aquatazer Sukuna basically does what Yami can do. He's not even that special. However, it's the fact that what Sukuna did was that he "Cut" the world. More specially that Sukuna was able to cut Gojo in half and aimed directly for his stomach so that way he couldn't heal it since CE comes from the stomach.
@simplysage3562
@simplysage3562 8 ай бұрын
Seeing Hojos eyes still Gloe while basically smoked is so dope
@lunkastry
@lunkastry 8 ай бұрын
the fight was the equivalent to two boxers fighting each other and the one that seemed like he was on his last legs just pulled out a gun.
@chrisg5352
@chrisg5352 8 ай бұрын
This death felt rushed, like we’re missing a chapter. But honestly, what’s done is done and we need the series to focus on the continued development of other characters, especially the MC, Yuji. If it means creating a storyline the series deserves, then Gege is on the right track
@ASSARAPTUS
@ASSARAPTUS 8 ай бұрын
I push back at it being rushed. Gege much like Hirohiko Araki, understand how to write Death in a narrative. In the sense that there are two ways you can write death that reflects real life. 1) You die Really Quick & Abruptly like real life 2) You die really slow. Old age/Debilitating sickness
@iamhallo68
@iamhallo68 8 ай бұрын
I thought this chapter was great, showed lots of hidden messages and Gojo's resolve Now let thunder God Kashimo cook Gege's own words thunder god Kashimo
@tyedrichill8097
@tyedrichill8097 8 ай бұрын
Kashimo finna get scrubbed.
@shaq_869
@shaq_869 8 ай бұрын
How i see it. Sukuna old slashes was like a projectile weapon and now he changed it to be a hitscan weapon
@theonethatgotaway3475
@theonethatgotaway3475 8 ай бұрын
Whatched alot of videos to see others thoughts on the fight, this is the most accurate, although it makes me wonder did it really only take one slash from sukuna to kill gojo, who brought his rct and output back up to at the very least, mostly full, when we have seen him endure way more slashes, idk, I love the concept and idea that sukunas existance slashes are what killed gojo but why did these slashes stop him from healing? Also I wonder how kashimos cursed technique is gonna get past sukunas domain amplification : /
@silvertongue-242_99
@silvertongue-242_99 8 ай бұрын
When mahoraga did that second adaptation you would think he would notice a difference with his six eyes. Realize the danger in mahoraga doing it and potentially sukuna learning especially how similar it looked to cleave but ehhh I guess he didn't
@semekiizuio
@semekiizuio 8 ай бұрын
Its why it feels like we missed a chapter. Maybe showing all this and Gojo being too slow or unable to stop it and just takes it as the attack was instant, definitely not his death tho
@hisayaren8324
@hisayaren8324 8 ай бұрын
As it turns out, the six eyes can't see cursed shit. There's a lot of things that don't make sense in this chapter but ehh, my brain's turned off when reading JJK so it doesn't matter
@silvertongue-242_99
@silvertongue-242_99 8 ай бұрын
@@semekiizuio yeah it felt like a chapter was missed like a proper explanation or seeing the attack
@blu3d3vil97
@blu3d3vil97 8 ай бұрын
Mahoraga adapts to land effective hits What if it adapted to evade the six eyes
@silvertongue-242_99
@silvertongue-242_99 8 ай бұрын
@@blu3d3vil97 I don't think he can adapt to land effective hits. Just adapt to techniques. I don't think he can adapt to evade six eyes it's not an ability that interacts with mahoraga
@frederickdawson2253
@frederickdawson2253 8 ай бұрын
Gojo got HOED like Madara got HOED. Both authors made characters so powerful they didn't know what to do with them. He stated multiple times he hated Gojo because he made him too powerful to progress the plot. This is just a unceremonial end. Did Gojo need to die for the story? Yes. But this wasnt the way ad I feel it will always be a point of contention for the mangaka like black zetsu taking out Madara... this will be infamous. Gojo got off screened..nothing is as disrespectful
@shmeatyg
@shmeatyg 8 ай бұрын
Madara getting killed by zetsu made no sense. Gojo losing here makes sense but the execution was not the best. We know mahoraga adapted to infinity and we even saw sukuna tell mahoraga to use a slash so that he could analyze and learn how to do it. It been established that sukuna is the greatest sorcerer in history and Angel even told us that showing sukuna something once is more than enough for him. It was lame that we didnt see gojo actually get cleaved but this is nowhere near as bad as madara getting killed by actual fodder.
@diadiecisse3089
@diadiecisse3089 8 ай бұрын
@@shmeatygdefinitely not as bad as Madara. Not even close. Bias aside, this is actually pretty well thought. However, the explanation does not really convince me still. Gojo’s supposed to have the best eyes in the series. Eyes that see things on a molecular level. Any technique, no matter how small or powerful they are, should have a starting point and time. With the way 6 eyes work, Gojo should have never been hit with that slash infinity or not. Also, Mahoraga being able to do it is totally different from sukuna. If sukuna can now copy Mahoraga to a degree, then how do you beat him? If gege thought he’d made gojo too strong, what about sukuna? He can learn the most complex technique simply by witnessing them once.
@shmeatyg
@shmeatyg 8 ай бұрын
@@diadiecisse3089 I agree Sukuna does seem too strong to kill as of now but at a point in time Gojo also seemed that strong(also he's been extremely weakened by gojo) . Sukuna definitely did copy Mahoraga. Secondly we see that Gojo couldn't react to Mahoraga slash so it makes sense that he couldn't react this time where he's even more worn out and damaged. If you wanna say he was caught off guard the first time by Mahoraga using a new technique , the same logic applies that he would be caught off guard by an opponent who he thought he had beaten using a new ability.
@Imani626
@Imani626 8 ай бұрын
​@@shmeatygGege has already shown us that every cursed technique starts off with a spark and even if gojo couldn't react quickly the first time mahoraga sliced his arm he should have realized that this slash is completely different from the slashes he endured in domain, he wouldn't be caught out as easily as he ended up
@shmeatyg
@shmeatyg 8 ай бұрын
@@Imani626 Being able to to see something happening and being able to dodge it are two separate things. If we take the 6 eyes as these perfect curse energy reading tools that just means Gojo is not fast enough to dodge it as we saw a in better condition Gojo get hit with the slash from a slower opponent(mahoraga).
@tsunamitodd5131
@tsunamitodd5131 8 ай бұрын
I think it would be cool is Kashimos CT was actually water based. The lighting is just an amp like how Hakaris CT is luck but his curse energy hits like a serrated
@kingslayer1550
@kingslayer1550 8 ай бұрын
Early Gang. Reserve your like 👇
@diadiecisse3089
@diadiecisse3089 8 ай бұрын
My real problem with this chapter is with sukuna. How are we supposed to build any sort of connection with sukuna, when gege keeps backpedaling on his character. One chapter we’re told he’s nervous for the first time in 1000 years. The next, oh he’s been holding back. Was Sukuna even trying at all? Was gojo underestimating his own power due to his loss? If sukuna can one shot gojo, who was in a significantly stronger state than all the students combined prior to getting one shotted, how does sukuna lose now? The one shot was the bad part. If gojo had died due to using too much energy and got cut while being exhausted, then why not. But gojo, while not being at 100%, was still pretty damn optimal. He might have been at 50-60% still, while sukuna looked to be around 20-30%. But it turns out sukuna was faking it? Was he ever serious in the fight at all? In order for a fight to be good, there needs to be some sort of honest emotional involvement from both. We don’t know if sukuna even cared, despite his words. Remember, he could be lying or faking.
@sayajin8773
@sayajin8773 8 ай бұрын
Sukuna holding back was from gojo's point of view, that's not the truth. We can actually see sukuna's inner monologue and how he was trying atleast. But with that said, sukuna definitely didn't use his other techniques, or rather.. It would've been useless
@IXYen-IXYen
@IXYen-IXYen 8 ай бұрын
A good death is one that does not feel real
@isthatnazy2004
@isthatnazy2004 8 ай бұрын
311th view much love 💕
@yYukiKuroi
@yYukiKuroi 8 ай бұрын
Really the worst part of this is that it wasn’t Sukuna who got to this on his own. He blatantly learned how to pass Infinity through Maho’s adaptation ability. It just lessens Sukuna being the king of curses as a title. He had that aura of the big bad in the verse and when its time to fight Gojo, he wins off someone else’s hax? I would’ve preferred this fight being Sukuna himself learning how to bypass it and that would’ve felt more fulfilling and fits with Sukuna. After all Sukuna’s character is kinda about pure strength, it’s about himself and about his own pleasure, if this is what his pleasure looks like then it definitely feels disappointing for the strongest character.
@AlexGuzman-ff1ud
@AlexGuzman-ff1ud 8 ай бұрын
Gojo literally said himself sukuna didn’t need the ten shadows to beat Gojo like what ? Guys I know we love Gojo but we gotta accept that sukuna is just stronger 🤷🏽‍♂️
@thelegandgamer2830
@thelegandgamer2830 8 ай бұрын
​@AlexGuzman-ff1ud it's the other way around sukuna in this chapter literally said he needed mahoraga to by pass infinite when he was explaining how did he cut gojo
@SlickEvan
@SlickEvan 8 ай бұрын
Agreed. I really would've enjoyed Sukuna just fighting and learning on his own. I'm sure some people would call BS but that would've been way more fulfilling to me.
@saturn8755
@saturn8755 8 ай бұрын
@@AlexGuzman-ff1ud Sukuna said that he wouldn't have been able to pull off the technique without Mahorage implying that he would have never bypass infinity, and Gojo said that it would be a really close fight (which literally means that he would have won with severe injury) if Sukuna didn't have 10s
@shepardice3775
@shepardice3775 8 ай бұрын
@@AlexGuzman-ff1ud And Sukuna immediately contradicted that by saying the attack he pulled off on Gojo was otherwise impossible in his mind, but thankfully he had Mahoraga there as the manual. He's pretty clearly telling us that he wouldn't have been able to do that without Maho's adaptation.
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