Which One Would I Pick: Honda Civic Type R or Hyundai Elantra N?

I'm reviewing the 2023 Honda Civic Type R, and this time I'm making this video for my 3 year younger self. 3 years ago I looked closely between the Hyundai Veloster N and the Honda Civic Type R, just like a lot of people did. I ended up with the Veloster N because it was the logical choice for me at the time.
Now that there isn't a Veloster N anymore and the Hyundai Elantra N is carrying the torch, would I go with the new generation Honda Civic Type R, or stick with the Hyundai N brand?
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Index:
0:00 Intro
1:51 Exterior
6:02 Interior
8:50 Tech
11:22 Power
12:38 Driving Experience
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[@emper8658]

The hate you're getting by the loyalists is crazy. Great objective review.

[@ShiftingLanes]

Thank you for that! It’s part of the job

[@n-power-automotive]

Though the Elantra N’s DCT is less engaging than a manual - especially a Civic Type R manual - for an automatic transmission it’s very engaging. The crazy fast shifts, upshift burps and downshift blips, paired with the exhaust pops and crackles, makes driving an absolute blast each and every time. It makes you feel like you’re in a much more expensive car and makes the car feel much quicker than it actually is. And if you want to be more physically engaged, you can throw it in manual mode and use the paddles. It still has the feel of clutch slip and grab, so it’s unlike any traditional automatic. I obviously love it. But if I absolutely had to row my own gears, it’d be hard not to really want the Civic Type R or Integra Type S.

[@TheRealBobWillkins]

There are videos on the KZbin showing the EN DCT beating both the type r and type s.

[@van_der_lindeDA]

@MGN909 please send the links from a proper car journalist that shows its faster in a drag on the same day side by side, show 3....then show 1 link where any Hyundai is faster than the FL5 on a track...I will wait

[@Symphoniics]

⁠@@van_der_lindeDAI mean, that is some pretty ridiculous criteria. Anyway… If you want journalist results, just go check out the Car and Driver test results for each car. Type R has a 0-60 time of 4.9s and 1/4 mile time of 13.5s. Elantra N has a 0-60 time of.4.8s and a 1/4 time of 13.4s.

[@van_der_lindeDA]

@Symphoniics so a auto is faster than a manual by .1... now show me where its faster on track

[@Symphoniics]

@@van_der_lindeDA There’s a Throttlehouse video of a non-octane learned EN 6MT barely losing to the Type R in a drag race. If octane learned, it would’ve been right next to the Type R. Now as far as track driving goes, the Type R will be faster most of the time, but for $10k less, the EN sure makes it quite competitive!

[@Dashdedeh]

My local Honda dealership still has a “new” 2018 type r on the lot priced at 39k lol

[@victormoreno2767]

50k used 2023 in my area. Crazy times…

[@rinbine2713]

You don't know about their philosophy. Biermann said "We are removed anti torque-steer software in Elantra N. Torque-steer is a feature for driving". TFL pro driver said "New Type-R likes the under-steer."

[@jayczyzyk9707]

Nice reveiw

[@coolilk2]

I had a 2022 Elantra N brand new, fresh off the truck, but traded it in at 26k due to reliability issues and Hyundai making it an absolute hassle to actually use the 100k mile warranty and them never giving me a loaner nor a rental, but had my car for 2 weeks each time. I got a 2021 Honda civic type r with 14k miles. I can say that Honda is, more powerful, better build quality(Elantra had creaks and while it looks nice on interior it’s with cheaper materials), surprisingly in comfort mode type r rides smoother and less harsh on bumps then the Elantra N, more trunk room, better sound system quality, but Elantra N has hands down better technology. I can trade loss of better tech and heated seats for better reliability, handling, speed, and quality.

[@coolilk2]

Also I never modded my Elantra N

[@coolilk2]

And I haft the DCT version

[@SeudXe]

Plenty of EN owners including me had no issues with their cars and I have DCT.

[@fusrodahing1993]

@@SeudXe I can second that. Not a single creak either...

[@opadilla123]

I can thrd that no problems at all

[@stockey]

I have a device, it's very small and cost $100 and it makes Android Auto wireless, some tester said The Elantra N felt more refined than the Civic R, especially the suspension, The N is more fun to drive than the R, and at 10K less, The Elantra N is the clear winner for me.

[@TheLatt3]

K series engines are one of the most robust engines in the world. let us see if G4KH can do the same.

[@sn4rl277]

K20C is an amazing engine. I choose a 10th Gen Accord 2.0t (K20C) over the N.

[@kakuja2977]

Elantra N Owner here, wanted a FL5 but saw the ridiculous markups for it and decided against it. "Investment", "It's a Type R", "It'll last forever" sure it's the most beautiful CTR ever, but I grew up with two NSX's in my household, so sorry guys...it's not that special to be 80k CAD , 51k sure that's acceptable for possibly the last ICE CTR, I would accept that and instantly buy it, but to buy it with dealer markups on it...that's a clown move. EN does 80% of what the Type R does, just slightly inferior and doesn't have the badge worship like Honda does obviously but eh to each their own.

[@chandlerlaruex]

You praise the ctr transmission but said nothing about how absolutely flawed the Rev hang is.

[@jonathanchung7209]

Not comparable. Both are great, if you know, you know.

[@pv4083]

I want the Type R but got Elantra N money…champagne taste with beer money….A modelo never lands wrong…there’s your answer

[@ShiftingLanes]

I still have my 2020 Veloster N. I hear you bud 💯

[@xgen2.0t84]

Type r ftw, love the look and power from honda.

[@phillyspitta8147]

I’m from the Hyundai Scoupe era so I don’t give a damn how far these cars have come I still feel like there junk n break down often , gimme a Type R all day with that said

[@patrickbilodeau3785]

Get your head out of the sand ! It's 2023 and Hyundai has come a long way. The N division is no joke, just look at them dominate in the TCR and WRC.

[@CAC02_]

@@patrickbilodeau3785emmmm, why the Tucson engines breaking down?

[@thecamdenyard]

If they put the 2.5L in the Elantra N like they been hinting to it will be a game changer especially if you could get the DCT with or without a sunroof… I prefer a manual but these DCT’s are pretty good when getting every edge you can…

[@SeudXe]

Wym they’ve been hinting on it it’s already confirmed to be the same 2.0T lol

[@thecamdenyard]

How can the 2.0L already be confirmed when the 8th gen hasn’t even been announced yet??? They are still riding out the 7th gen with refresh’s… Now that is a LOL

[@TheRealBobWillkins]

I own both a 22EN DCT and a 22 Sonata N Line with the 2.5 and the EN is loads faster. The size of the engine isn’t the solution. It’s the tune on it. They would have to spend a lot of time and do a lot of testing to somehow make the 2.5 even close to the tune on the EN. I’ve beaten 3.0Ts and 3.3Ts plenty of times in my EN. Especially from a roll.

[@thecamdenyard]

@@TheRealBobWillkins you really should contact Albert Biermann and pitch the idea of less displacement is better because of the tune 😂 The N-Line trim is never going to be a better performing car from the factory than the N. The N is their top tier performance line regardless of what engine they all might have…

[@esantiago8989]

@@thecamdenyardthe N-line 2.5t sonata makes more power than the Elantra N. Stock vs stock however the Elantra is more responsive and quicker but not faster on the top end. Sonata will chase it down at 140+mph. 2.5 does have more potential but needs the support from tuners. It’s also dual injected so with tuning it definitely has a higher performance ceiling than the motor in the current Elantra. As it stands today, it doesn’t have enough support so the 2.0 in the Elantra is the way to go for now

[@Marbind]

If your budget is mid 30s the EN is a no brainer. Brings you the minimum you need to have fun. If budget is not a problem and you find a CTR at MSRP (easier today than last year). The CTR is an excellent choice. Offers a superior craftmanship with real brembo brakes that outperform the ones found in the EN. Lots of cornering grip capable of holding over 1G. Wider body, wider tires, stronger chassis that don't need braces in the way of your cargo needs, the best manual transmission in the segment, beautiful and unique body lines that stands out over the base model, solid K series engine with excellent history, among many other things. All those little things add up and if you care about details the CTR is the way to go.

[@robertomedina9824]

You forgot to compare the Type R shifter to the miata!! I have a 2018 Miata and test drove an Integra A-spec (200 hp) and man... the miata was so much more comfortable. I imagine the Type R's is likely similar o the Integra A-spec... is it?

[@eklektikTechno]

Type R has years of history and refinement so no way I would choose a Hyundai over the R

[@giogen6170]

Type R is the clear winner. But market adjustment 🤮. Forget the MSRP dealers are asking too much.

[@BWTECH0521]

Looking at the price, Honda fan boys better hope that the CTR is better. Imagine what kind of car N can make for 45k lol

[@Jameshhl]

Not everybody have an extra $12k+ to spend on a car, so Elantra N is much better value. But if money is no object, Type R is the better car.

[@BWTECH0521]

Civic si - $29,100 EN - $33,700 CTR - $44,795 (w/o markup) And EN is being compared with the CTR. No brainer, EN is the much better value. If Hyundai comes up with something for 45k, I think it'll eat up the CTR. That just goes to show how much Hyundai improved over the years. Now only if they can make engines and trans that doesnt blow up haha...

[@TheCarCrazyGuy]

I went baller status, 2024 Integra Type S. Paid MSRP and I’m in SoCal, land of stealerships.

[@Jdm_fl5]

🧢

[@protectork9831]

Integra is lot easier to get than type r

[@drumflip1253]

In reality they are 20k apart with how Honda dealers mark up relentlessly. Elantra N for the win all day. I drive a manual Veloster N performance blue and love it!

[@cbschrader]

I can attest to that. Just bought a CTR and most dealers are going crazy with markups. I didn’t pay the $65k they were asking, but I wish I wasn’t so weak. I shouldn’t have paid even a dollar over MSRP.

[@arthurmroyce]

2020 Veloster N here. Cheap childish entertainment. Not one single problem, but she does have a few minor mods. I am one of those people who does not mind going back to the office because I get to commute on curvy back roads!

[@jimsgaragetoys4963]

I drove both of these cars in addition to the GR Corolla, Golf R, and WRX. I much preferred the GR Corolla as it was the most fun to drive of any of these cars. I also loved the AWD abilities and the smaller size. The Elantra N and Civic Type R felt way too big to me.

[@i.d.6492]

I agree, that's why I love my Veloster N

[@jimsgaragetoys4963]

@@i.d.6492 I'm surprised that they canceled the Veloster N. I liked that car a lot more than the Elantra N. I almost pulled the trigger on one several years ago but I wanted AWD. I have a FWD turbo in my 2009 Corolla S.

[@jessicaphoenix1312]

They say that the Type - R has a better resale value. If you plan on selling the car then that matters. One more reason for me to keep my 2023 Elantra N.

[@TheRealBobWillkins]

The type r has been proven to be slower in a race against the older one and the EN is on par with the older type r so I’ll take the EN. Oh wait I already own one. 22dct all day.

[@van_der_lindeDA]

😂😂😂 I will ask you the same question....send me a link where the factory Type R has lost to any form of a hyundai on a circuit...send 3 links then write go from there.

[@TheRealBobWillkins]

so lets start with the fact that you obviously didnt read my comment correctly. i was talking at first about the fk8 vs the fl5. in that race there are plenty of videos you can look up on how from a dig the fl5 has a better take off being awd but in a roll the fk8 is quite a bit faster than the fl5. there are even videos you can look up with a quick search of "elantra n vs" and type whatever car you want to and see the outcomes of. the channel "throttle house" does a video where they do race between the two civics and it shows it clearly. heres one link to that video. kzbin.info/www/bejne/e6C0eZifh52CqJI. im not doing anymore homework for you, i dont care if youre smart enough to know that truth or not. secondly i was talking about how the EN is also just as fast as the fk8 depending on the driver as there are also videos on here you can serach for that show this. i get it you love the honda and they are very nice cars but theyre also in the exact same league as the EN. theyre both in the top 5 fastest 2.0t cars on the market. thats a fact. stop getting all triggered and shit. have a nice day. @@van_der_lindeDA

[@van_der_lindeDA]

@@TheRealBobWillkins hahahaha no one's triggered....the fact that you just stated the FL5 is AWD speaks volumes....enjoy your Hyundai

[@TheRealBobWillkins]

yah i was wrong on the awd part for sure. i looked it up. im not a honda guy its just what i thought i had read on it before. but if thats what you choose to focus on then idk what to tell you. your bunch of "hahas" def look triggered to me but you tell yourself what you need to. throttle house is a very credible source for cars with almost 3mil subs. whatever you claim to be credible is just opinion. everything else i said was indeed fact about both the civics speed and the hyundais. almost any "credible" source says how much they love the EN. i will in fact enjoy my car. do you even own a type r or are you just looking for attention? @@van_der_lindeDA

[@youcangetsum6871]

@@van_der_lindeDAyou’ve been tryna justify your overpriced purchase for a little while now lol I see you on every video about an Elantra N if you’re that obsessed with it why not just buy both btw I have a link of an full bolt on fk8 getting walked by a dp tuned and intake only EN if you want to see both are still great cars to have at the end of the day🤷🏾‍♂️

[@FATmenDRIVEtrucks]

These are not comparable in price at all so let's stop pretending like they're competitors. I purchased my Elantra N manual for $31k meanwhile Type R is double the cost. Yes you'll be paying about $1200 a month for the civic 😂 These are the vehicles you could compare it to WRX, Si, GTI, ect

[@fusrodahing1993]

I agree they aren't comparable in price, but the EN's performance definitely rivals the type R, and is a good bit faster than the price class you mentioned. I think our car just punches above its weight class in terms of price : )

[@dubiousmike]

Why would I be embarrassed to drive an Elantra N? 5:50 Way to alienate some of us. Unsubscribed.

[@ShiftingLanes]

It’s just my opinion, and I shared the same sentiment in my original review.

[@Jcastro9444]

I get nothing but compliments and neck breaking on my Elantra N LOL it's very subjective looks wise, I think people hate on it lowkey cause it's the new kid on the block

[@stefanb974]

Lol I know right. People tell me all the time how nice my elentra is.

[@BDA0531]

I understand that the EN is a fun and good performance car for its price but it seriously gives off young ricer vibes with all the pops. The styling is atrocious as well

[@Jcastro9444]

@BDA0531 like I said looks are very subjective most people that tell me my car looks beautiful dont know what it is

[@MaxPwr176]

FL5s are still overheating on track. Atleast the fast ones I've done track days with pull off halfway through a 20 minute session because of oil temps

[@chandlerlaruex]

I think it's pretty obvious which one you should buy, I mean, you are comparing a car that cost close to a super msrp with average dealer markup to a car that is the cost of a si after markups. I think the only people buying the civics are truly loyalists.

[@joshwilson5671]

HUGE difference in price and car classes so not even a close comparison 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@godisgoodallthetime9462]

MK8 GTI is great car 👍👍

[@melmorales7447]

So….. not objective, idk what the Honda boys are telling you but the truth is…. The Elantra is a way better buy, the Honda is slightly better, but with markups is at least a 20k difference. So if money is no object go with the Honda. But at that price point you could be looking at a bmw m2. So imo the Honda makes no sense

[@maoinc13]

I am the grown up in the group and i pick the EN all the way 😁😁😁🎉🎉🎉 and i wish the money diferential between these two were 10k 😂😂 . You could find an EN at 35k easy but with the Honda Civic Type R you wont find one for less than 55k !!!😢😢😢😢

[@StrongerThanEver84]

wrong. i bought mine for 51K and couldve bought a blue one for 1k less but i wanted red specifically

[@chandlerlaruex]

50k for a civic is still a F my guy 😂​@StrongerThanEver84

[@maoinc13]

@@StrongerThanEver84 still a lot of money 💰

[@CAC02_]

@@maoinc13U got a point, but still in love with the looks of the Type S and if I got the money, I would payed full for it. Edit: oh and forget to mention, they’re way reliable.

[@GTR003121]

Sucks about the Type R markups, but they are finally coming down, $5k over seems to be doable now. The Type R is worth every penny more than the Elantra N even at $50K

[@jasoniviejr.7925]

At 50K a lightly used Supra or a S650 for not much more will give you much more for your dollar.

[@GTR003121]

@@jasoniviejr.7925 Maybe so, but I hate the “Supra”

[@fusrodahing1993]

Wouldn't say worth every penny more.. you can do a lot with 10-15k in mods that'll create an even better driving machine than the Type R

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

Lol ok waste you’re money.

[@GTR003121]

@@JohnLee-db9zt *your

[@SnoopiFL5]

Type R. Better car in every aspect will last longer also and hold a better resale value.

[@fusrodahing1993]

Except the exhaust and back end

[@JohnLee-db9zt]

Not in price, lol.

[@SeudXe]

Lemme correct that. 5% better in every aspect for $20k more.

[@lukemothug]

​@@fusrodahing1993 type r can do the same just by changing the exhaust to aftermarket.

[@fusrodahing1993]

@@lukemothug Actually, that's not true. The engine itself is the problem. It just doesn't sound as loud, nor as good as the Theta 2 engine. The exhaust on the EN is just the icing on the cake

[@GSTRification]

For all those who can’t afford or can’t get ctr at msrp, i would absolutely consider an elantra n, especially after the facelift for 2024. Host of upgrades for performance and exterior design. Even at msrp it still is 10k difference. I am waiting for ctr at msrp dealer and have the buyers order written coming out to be just shy of 50K out the door. But i was seriously considering switching to elantra n manual after seeing 2024 facelift. I still am while waiting for the ctr to arrive

[@irwinsra4484]

I picked up my 2024 CTR for msrp on Feb 20th 😅

[@jeffreycormier3864]

Have you ever rowed through the gears of a 6 speed MT Miata? THAT is the best 6 speed transmission feel.

[@ShiftingLanes]

It has been awhile, and I’m frankly disappointed at myself for not remembering to include it in my comparison. I do recall having a great time shifting in the Miata, though this Honda’s shifter feels awesome. Good call!

[@van_der_lindeDA]

Sorry the Hondas is better....

[@2688elmo]

no better or worse between type r and miata. they are both quite different and both have their pros @@van_der_lindeDA

[@van_der_lindeDA]

@@2688elmo FL5 gearbox and gearing is next level over any miata

[@4Kandlez]

No, it's not

[@douglaskrueger357]

Honda has way too much pedigree to ignore.

[@nowhere529]

Elantra N DCT faster.Cheaper.

[@fusrodahing1993]

The FK8 looked better to me than the new FL5, and I can't choose between the FK8 and the Veloster N. Maybe I prefer more outgoing looks over sleeker looks, but damn I'm loving my Elantra N right now

[@evoemperor3776]

Golf gti with dsg🤣

[@vicm1010]

Video seems biased toward the type r. Points out flaws on the hyundai only to excel at pointing out the type r's advantages.

[@bernandoturner4840]

Yeaaaaa! Im gonna choose A Hyundai over A Honda🙄

[@brhardi48326]

FK8

[@KidJaeProductions]

Lots of Honda fanboys I see 👀

[@porschegt2346]

Nobody in their dam rightful minds ever woke up and said they want a Hyundai, especiallly over a type R. The only argument Hyundai owned have is “it’s cheaper” , “it’s got a longer warranty”.. Ok yes it’s cheaper, but also cheaper all around too and that longer warranty ain’t from the goodness of their hearts lmao unreliable compared to Hondas.

[@luisarreguin2202]

I guess I’m not in my right mind because after having my FK8 for over 3 years I’m wanting a EN in DCT

[@Jcastro9444]

I have an Elantra N DCT and stock im walking Fk8 & FL5 in a drag race, im content with that lol Hyundai ftw

[@ljohnson9440]

Wait until that tranny goes and it will. Hyundai is not good for honoring warranties either or getting parts 🤣. While a better driver in the civic walks you.

[@da-yh3uy]

Nice you know how to drive an automatic that’s rated .4 sec faster 0-60 and slower in a quarter mile by 1 second even with the fl5s better downforce and increased drag. Curious to know what you’re “drag race” looks like cuz I’m doubting you’re launching a fwd car stock

[@Ace20001216]

Bro is bragging about a standstill drag race in an automatic vs a manual😂. Sure enough both fk8 and fl5 would start to creep up regardless and WILL pass you given they are more powerful. Same concept when your driving on the highway/freeway or normal road conditions since you don’t have to launch the car. On a roll/ in motion driving it will walk you detrimentally again given it’s more powerful and the fact that you don’t need to launch the car. Realistically speaking if the type r came with a DCT there would be no competitor other than the Golf R.

[@Jcastro9444]

@Ace20001216 kzbin.info/www/bejne/qKqlnZdmlLCroqcsi=grGNhDQo14iw6nVO Elantra N beat your godly type R. It still stands an EN in DCT form is better in every way than the FL5 lol especially if it's octane learned. Drag racing is just a plus faster than that overpriced honda.

[@stefanb974]

​@@Ace20001216the Honda would not pass the elentra. That wing slows it down causing drag. The elentra gets to 150mph faster than the type r.

[@i.d.6492]

It looks so long, not a fan tbh. Who ever call it hatchback is smoking because it's a long family lift back sedan

[@CAC02_]

I mean looks great IDK for a hatchback, looks unique and aggressive, Love it.

[@robme3660]

I'll keep my corolla hatchback 6spd and keep dreaming of the type R.

[@lukemothug]

But you don't dream of a gr corolla?

[@robme3660]

​​@lukemothug , I'd be happy with either. Type R has the edge since I live in FL. There's no snow and perfect roads. If I lived in a snow state, 100% GR.

[@bryanallendorf7064]

You nailed it when you said the Honda is in a different class. Not only is Hyundai's styling horrible. It won't last near as long as the Honda. The transmission alone makes it a better car.

[@MJT-DA]

The K20C in the type R is the weakest K series ever made. My friend tuned his and it instantly blew up. Stock its fine but civics are boring stock.

[@Jcastro9444]

Yup new civic engines are trash, meant to be kept stock unless built. K series if you wanna go fast modded.

[@MJT-DA]

@@Jcastro9444 The thing thats sad their new K series is designed well but using really cheap alloy. Its extremely ductile. Any extra force causes it to warp. It all started when they got an American Ceo to replace the Japanese one. Edit: I found out he is Japanese too which makes no sense since Japan usually doesn't follow the customs as of North America.

[@ljohnson9440]

Sounds like an incompetent tuner or bad driver.

[@MJT-DA]

@@ljohnson9440 He owned two bmws, a K24 civic turbo and the brand new supra. Stop defending a bad engine…

[@ljohnson9440]

Too many people running high HP #'s for you to be pushing that crap. Again poor tuning and lack of knowledge.@@MJT-DA

[@mrnobodytheuser2950]

10th gen look way better than the generic 11.

[@da-yh3uy]

I love how all these people trying to justify why a cheaper car is better than a car that is objectively better and more expensive. Everyone talking about 0-150-0 test and how civic is slower lol. Both are track cars, not drag cars, if you’re taking an Elantra N FWD as a competitive drag race car I question you. Going by the 0-150-0 test, the gt3 rs must be a worse car than turbo s and a z06 and god forbid more expensive than both. Both the Elantra N and type r must be worse than a Kia EV6. We get it you’re happy with your car, don’t be overcompensating with all this “oh I walk type Rs all day in a stock N”

[@mrnobodytheuser2950]

E N just more bang for your buck, het at least Civic will probably hold better resale thnx to fan boys.

[@ctcdarkness]

But the thing is as an EN owner myself. For the price the type-R should clearly be better but the fact that it’s not and it’s only marginally better. But hey you do you, whether you or any of the other Type-R fanboys feel or think I have pulled on FK8’s and FL5’s in a straight line. So why don’t you justify the type R being 8-12k more?

[@maoinc13]

Sorry dude but EN all the way !!

[@da-yh3uy]

@@mrnobodytheuser2950 id agree to that the EN definitely good for the price

[@da-yh3uy]

@@ctcdarkness no need to justify anything for the markup, a markup is the markup. I'm okay in paying the price I'm comfortable paying. good for you, you're a great driver going fast in a straight line in an automatic car not engineered to go in a straight line lmao

[@ekhoury1000]

TypeR all day long not even close

[@stefanb974]

Unless you have driven both, you can't respond to this question objectively.

[@ekhoury1000]

@@stefanb974 lol

[@EricTsu]

Driven both, own fl5 and it wins in all categories. By how much, that's up to you. Driving wise it objectively is faster and more fun especially in manual. Elantra N is superior if you keep it stock IMO because you get the warranty and much cheaper. Not much aftermarket like honda unfortunately.@@stefanb974

[@mrnobodytheuser2950]

E N DCT the better car, only the fanboys keep Honda price elevated, E N the future.

[@ekhoury1000]

@@mrnobodytheuser2950 lol

[@MrJeffSD]

Wrx

[@EricK-vk7wm]

Honda or Hyundai, what a decision just wait till that Hyundai blows up!!!

[@jeffspaulding5116]

For the difference in price Hyundai could probably throw in another engine.

[@xgen2.0t84]

No wonder I see a lot kia/Hyundai on bed truck than Honda.

[@victormoreno2767]

At the Elantra price still around 20K difference with the R. You can buy another one!😁😁😁

[@tommylee4135]

Its not a $10k price tag difference, it's more like $30k after dealer markups. Civic transmissions have been known to grind second gear so idk where your description of a flawless transmission came from. The Elantra also comes with far superior warrenty than the Civic. Do your research a bit, for your channel's sake...

[@ShiftingLanes]

1. Dealer markups are market and time dependent. Can’t control what the markup will be at the time of the video or 3 years from now… so I can only go by msrp info because that is known. 2 manual trans opinion came from actually driving all that I listed, if you grind your gears, I’d look at your own driving. 3 Hyundai comes with longer warranty for original owner, true, but I make no claim that it is superior or worse than Honda’s in this video.

[@tommylee4135]

​@@ShiftingLanesWhile it is true that you cant know what the markup will be, but it's almost certain that there will be a significant markup and you've never mentioned that fact when you said the Civic is only $10k more. Everyone whos actually in the market knows this isnt true so should you. This is the disconnect between car reviewers and actual consumers. I'm just saying know who your audience are. Look into Type R 2nd gear grinding issue, it's widespread amongst Type R owners and Honda has been ignoring them. Yes, you've never mentioned Hyundai's superior warranty, which is another reason why I believe this review was bias and incomplete. Just take it as constructive criticism. You risk alienating a lot of people who don't want to pay stupid prices for a car that's supposed to be in the affordable range.

[@EricTsu]

Got my fl5 at msrp, my brother got his fk8 at msrp. Fl5 has no gear grinds. I've also driven the veloster N which is practically the same as the elantra. @@tommylee4135

[@emper8658]

Have you ever used the transmission in an FK8/FL5? Lol, there's a reason this transmission is compared to those of the Porsche GT4.

[@chrisg5352]

@@tommylee4135 you really like to hit pick to much, how about you do reviews yourself? Please provide proof of the “2nd gear grind issue” amongst type r owners. Also, if you already know mark ups are a thing, then there is no harm in comparing vehicles by MSRP because the price of a car can be dependent on the time of year. You sound very bitter

[@ThePegi27]

"Huihai" Elantra N is so ugly looking car 🤮

[@NathanRobinson-yn7cm]

Stop the Honda fan boy crap. Boycott Honda and their markups. Also Elantra N has beat civic type r in TCR series for years now. Car and Driver 0 to 150 to 0 test the Elantra N beats the civic type r by 5 seconds. Only buy the Civic Type R if you mommy and daddy buy it for you.

[@van_der_lindeDA]

Please grow up 😂

[@TheLatt3]

Civic Type Rs are track cars. So to only judge them by drag race is futile and stupid

[@porschegt2346]

Sounds like broke Kia owner to me

[@van_der_lindeDA]

Bro you really sound so so immature 😂