Which Road Bike Reigns Supreme: Tarmac SL8 or SL7? 5000 Mile Test

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outdoorbros

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@outdoorbros_ 6 ай бұрын

Maybe we peaked at the last gen Venge🔪🔪🔪

@edjack1993 6 ай бұрын

As the happy owner of a final gen Venge with an *amazing* jade paint job, I wholeheartedly agree 😀

@mmurmurjohnson2368 6 ай бұрын

Peaked at the Vias disk, still the fastest in the lab I think, slap that integrated cock pit on it and it's still the fastest today, for those who love speed and don't care about compliance

@JonathanLee7 6 ай бұрын

This sort of succinct, practical, and still detailed video is exactly what we need more of. Chapeau! 👏👏👏

@DanaBlack 6 ай бұрын

My buddy went ->S-Works SL6 -> SL7 Pro -> S-Works SL8 and ended up selling the SL8 this winter after only a few months. Said he really regretted buying it and still loved and missed his SL7. Currently he's riding a Crux with 2 wheelsets since he only has room for 1 bike. I bought a used S-Works SL7 a few months ago because it ended up being a few thousand cheaper than a SL8 Pro with better components and a set of Princeton CarbonWorks wheels.

@outdoorbros_ 5 ай бұрын

Can’t go wrong with either- excellent bikes.

@littlemrdrummer 5 ай бұрын

This. Is truth spoken by a mate that could care less of having the latest model and keeping it honest.

@Pablo_Coach 21 күн бұрын

What his like more in sl7 than sl8?

@TheCyclingCardio 6 ай бұрын

As an SL7 owner, an SL8 upgrade only justified when age has finally caught up with the old frame…the SL7 is already everything we could ever need..light, aero, comfortable, looks great…the SL7 is the benchmark…I come from the Giant TCR SL, so SL7 is plenty comfortable for me

@marcustan5868 6 ай бұрын

How does the tcr advanced sl compares to the sl 8?❤

@andrewwalsh4662 6 ай бұрын

The non s-works SL8 frameset in way more worth it than an s-works SL7. The s-works SL8 is if you want to splurge, but the non s-works SL8 frameset is a gem for the value. If you know, you know. Currently I have mine built up to 15.01lbs or 6.8kg. Only a Cat2 racer but I'm satisfied.

@dhalbrook 6 ай бұрын

I couldn't agree more. I did pretty much exactly the same thing.

@DanaBlack 6 ай бұрын

You can find a barely used S-Works 12r SL7 frameset for like $1000 less than a 10r SL8 not to mention no sales tax buying used, speaking from experience.

@jesseladd6864 6 ай бұрын

Great video. Still not sure how you don’t have hundreds of thousands of subs and more attention to your channel. Love the work bro

@brendanchi2125 Ай бұрын

Nice video! What website are you using to search used bikes at 0:31?

@gustavomiguens8142 6 ай бұрын

Thanks these videos are always welcome. No one says something direct about buying SL8 if you DO NOT have the SL7. For instance I have an SL6 with carbon wheels and aero carbon handlebar and I am going to buy the SL8, is that the right move? My take, it seems, here in Argentina the full build of the SL7 sworks is around 12.5usd and the sworks SL8 is 14k... so if Sl8 is the SL7 but a bit better why not right?

@gustavomiguens8142 6 ай бұрын

it is still a question jajaja because I do want the SL8 but the option to search for a use SL7 is tempting

@garygbur3992 4 ай бұрын

How would you compare the SL7 with 32mm tires to a Roubaix for 10 hour days in the saddle? Any experience or differences in your opinion? Thanks

@carlosb555 6 ай бұрын

This came at the perfect time for me. Was considering the upgrade but will have to take a step back now. Also, love the analogy at 4:05. I know you’ve said it in other ways before and appreciate you taking the feedback to use this version of the analogy instead. Keep up the content my guy!!!

@shannonmeehan 3 ай бұрын

Thanks for clearing that up mate.

@ramsden35 6 ай бұрын

They’re both just stunning dream bikes 90% of us can’t afford. Dreaming is still allowed!

@ShannonCampbell604 6 ай бұрын

Excited for part 2 of the Fray Build! I should have my Salt 56cm next week!

@MasteringGrappling 4 ай бұрын

Hello. I enjoy your channel. Have you ever considered doing a test on a Chinese frame like a Tavelo or Elves? Just curious. I figured since you always ride top end bikes you could give a good perspective on the differences between the Chinese brands and the western brands.

@rg807 6 ай бұрын

I just built up an SL7, coming from a Colnago C60. If you ride crappy roads, then the SL8 is what you want. The SL7 is tolerable on crappy roads, but no one would call it comfortable, and comfort matters.

@departurexx1520 6 ай бұрын

A high end steel bikes is all you need.

@dennislaponder2846 5 ай бұрын

I also currently have a C60. For you, is there a big difference with the SL7, in comfort and performance?

@rg807 5 ай бұрын

@dennislaponder2846 The SL7 is more "jittery" especially on rough roads. I'm running 28s on it and you still feel the bumps. That said, it's not uncomfortable. From a performance perspective, it's WAY faster. It jumps out of corners, and over 25 mph is much faster. If I was riding 100 miles and I knew the road conditions to be good, I'd take the SL7. But, if there were potholes everywhere, broken pavement, the C60 for sure. Note- I don't race anymore, I'm just a reasonably fast recreational rider.

@dennislaponder2846 5 ай бұрын

@@rg807 Thanks! Appreciated🙏

@simonwarmer8777 6 ай бұрын

I’ve crashed my SW SL6, waiting for the insurance I’ve built a SW SL7 DA with new Enve 4.5 wheels coming under 7.0 kg’s with pedals computermount and bottlecages for less than halve the price of a new SL8 speedsniffer. Rides like a dream.

@joshschrader4732 6 ай бұрын

Let’s be honest here - most SWorks buyers won’t bat an eye about paying a few extra grand for some marginal gains - yeah, the SL7 is the value play BUT the SL8 is a better bike- full stop

@outdoorbros_ 5 ай бұрын

Where do you feel it’s significantly better? Outside the typical marketing points…

@joshschrader4732 5 ай бұрын

@@outdoorbros_ I didn’t say significantly better, just better - if nothing else it’s lighter - it also feels a tad stiffer in the front - otherwise I can’t give you any objective data - it’s down to feel for me and the 8 feels that little bit better to me

@LOGICAL-JAY Ай бұрын

I totally agree

@osp1999 6 ай бұрын

As a former Sworks sl7 owner, the sl8 Sworks was a worthy upgrade. Comfy like an aethos and quick like a race bike. If you hunt around , able to pickup used sl8 for really good prices. My Sworks sl8 cost me $8k

@outdoorbros_ 5 ай бұрын

Dang, that’s a steal!

@al-du6lb 2 ай бұрын

This isn't just with bikes. Products are getting so refined at this point that last year or even a couple years old are almost just as good.

@nicholastopley7611 6 ай бұрын

I have both, and they feel different (although that could be Dura Ace vs RED), performace as you say exactly the same. I ride the Venge as well and that remains a brilliant bike that surprises me how great it is every time I get it out. As you say its the operator that determines performance.

@LOGICAL-JAY Ай бұрын

Yep..folks would have to own the SL6, venge, SL7 and SL8 to give a valid comment...I totally agree w your statement..I've owned the light weight Sl6, venge pro, SL7 s-works and the Sl8 s-works and there is a slight difference in them all..the venge is still faster at top end speeds but you sacrifice comfort for speed..the sl6 and Sl7 were more comfortable and lighter..the SL8 rides similar to the SL7 but it's alot more comfortable, lighter, and more nimble..I just purchased the 2025 light blue tarmac sl8 s-works frame..I carried my 12 speed di2, saddle and roval rapide clxii wheels over to the SL8..I also brought the one piece bar for half price thru a friend that needed a longer stem on his sl8..tpu inner tubes, gp5000 tires(28mm front and 30mm in rear)..💯💯

@nicholastopley7611 Ай бұрын

@@LOGICAL-JAY Its funny, I find the Venge comfortable, definitely fast in TT-mode on flats and downhill. Love all three so keeping them all!!

@LOGICAL-JAY Ай бұрын

@nicholastopley7611 that bike is super fast on flats ..my trek madone SLR gen7 reminds me of the Venge but with more comfort..I would definitely keep the Venge nowadays..I got rid of mine thinking the SL7 was a replacement..the ride was similar..the SL7 was more nimble, light weight and quick out the gate but the venge would hold that top speed better

@christianemeiners9224 6 ай бұрын

Never owned a Specialized before my SL8; I was a Canyon fan girl. The SL8 is a phenomenal bike which I would never trade in for anything else. I suppose it really comes down to budget, ambition, and motivation.

@budinsudin1 3 ай бұрын

hi there i really enjoy your video. please review the pinarello dogma f compare to your SL8.please please please…..im torn between this 2 superbikes

@chriscawley18 5 ай бұрын

just traded an SL7 for an SL8 bc I wanted different crank length, bar/stem dimensions, and wheels. HAven't recieved it yet.

@budinsudin1 2 ай бұрын

Can you review pinarello dogma F please 😊

@outdoorbros_ 2 ай бұрын

If I can get my hands on one, I’d love to review it.

@hugoatibaiaaaa 6 ай бұрын

I'm loving sl8.. It's is insanely fast and getting prs compared to sl7

@outdoorbros_ 5 ай бұрын

Nice!

@kellenhassell 6 ай бұрын

Great vid. 🎯

@Jonas-bh3li 6 ай бұрын

My question would be: should I spend 2k more on the Sworks-Frame compared to the regular SL8 frame? I think with regards to weight and stiffness it is not a huge upgrade but resell value could be much higher.

@Silidons91 6 ай бұрын

You're fooling yourself if you think bikes hold decent resale value...you'd lose more money on the S-works...

@Jonas-bh3li 6 ай бұрын

@@Silidons91 possibly :D but when I compare SL7 to Sworks SL7, the price for the Sworks model is still 2-3k higher

@DaM.1 6 ай бұрын

S-Works model have higher depreciation

@Silidons91 6 ай бұрын

@@Jonas-bh3li comparing where, on a professional bike re-selling website, or what they're actually selling for on facebook and ebay?

@pe3117 6 ай бұрын

As a SL7 owner I don’t see to much difference right now to do the change…maybe in the future

@outdoorbros_ 5 ай бұрын

Fair!

@xgymratx83 5 ай бұрын

Need more content on allied Alfa

@outdoorbros_ 5 ай бұрын

Wish I still had it! It’s been sent back to Bentonville.

@edjack1993 6 ай бұрын

Sensible video. The marketing claims about performance gains between generations of high end bikes are comical. 😂 And new bikes are so expensive these days, that a well cared for example of a recent generation is going to give you a massive cost saving. That said, lots of LBS here have sales on (due to market conditions), so I guess that could bridge the gap a bit.

@Millicente 6 ай бұрын

Where are these s works sl7 frames for less than $2750 you speak of?

@TheCyclingCardio 6 ай бұрын

Second hand market..it’s everywhere here in my country

@DanaBlack 6 ай бұрын

Facebook Marketplace, there's a good S-Works for sale group and plenty of others on there. Also PinkBike.

@Vitone22 Ай бұрын

Don’t buy upgrades- ride upgrades

@invisiblescout6335 5 ай бұрын

the sl8 frame in a downgrade from the sl7 aerodynamically. All the claimed aero gains in the sl8 come from the integrated cockpit

@Pablo_Coach 21 күн бұрын

Yes, mainly because of round downtube (sl8 is faster only above 45kph+ speeds when downtube shape don’t matter because is hidden behind front wheels. Under 45 it’s will be better to kammtail shape).