Which Water-Methanol Injection Kit is Right For You?

[@VenomGT87]

I’ve been running your stage two kit on my Grand National for about 3 years now and I have to say that besides a few minor issues with the nozzle fittings leaking, the system has been really good to me.

[@fgtrhwu2]

How was it been holding up?

[@az_3kgt714]

Got a stage1 kit because I already had a Standlaone ecu that could be used as a controller. Was a really simple install. Just a trigger wire DPO02 for the haltech ecu. set up the parameters, Already had a fuse and relay panel so just 1 wire the panel and set up the pump and nozzle and it was done. Do wish it came with more than a size 6 nozzle and a size9 since im NA with a 3.0l v6 A size 4-5 wouldve been closer to the HP i was going for but oh well. Just set it up to trigger at a higher map ,tps, rpm signal.

[@brussell639]

I think the nitrous express direct port kit looks pretty cool. A bit pricey though.

[@mikeskidmore6754]

You have the controllers.. Not much was mentioned about one controlled by various vacuum levels on a naturally aspirated engine. Propane burns hot too. NOW YOU JUST NEED A VASTLY DOWNSIZED PUMP MATCHED THE FLOW NEEDS OF A 74 CUBIC INCH V-2 AIR COOLED MOTORYCLE ENGINE.

[@X85283]

Why are you yelling, you stupid boomer?

[@joshgraves6630]

What about diesel applications

[@j44ypg]

Yeah

[@THENathanWhitmore]

Will a stage 1 be good on an Audi A4 2.0T? It’s my street racer

[@brandonmonroe9867]

Installed your stage 1 kit on my 2017 Focus ST. Works great!

[@sergsrt8]

Brandon Monroe does the stage one have some type of failsafe? Or can your tuner make the car go into limp mode if it doesn't spray somehow?

[@brandonmonroe9867]

sergsrt8 hey there. No the stage 1 kid does not include a failsafe. I do not tune for methanol. Running it untuned can still net small power gains if using a smaller nozzle and will continue to clean valves and lower temps in the combustion chamber.

[@sergsrt8]

Brandon Monroe ok thanks

[@robbb8908]

How long does the tank last between fill ups on your stage 1...looking to add to my kia stinger

[@Marc-gm5cm]

@@brandonmonroe9867 how much would you say is that small power gain? did you notice it or you check before and after with some android app perhaps?

[@keepondreaming3870]

I bought Snow stage 2 kit & never installed it, I am unsure how to set up the box vc-25/MAF. I bought cyclinode upgrade & dual nosel upgrade. How do I adjust box, I read instructions several times and I've very confused. Running 306 v2 vortech. Looking to cool intake charge, car is tuned. Any help would be appreciated.👍

[@snowperformance1]

That is a little more involved than what we usually put in a comment. Please give our tech line a ring at 1-888-463-2781

[@christianpallazola6898]

Just picked up a stock 2016 bmw 428i xdrive gran coupe as a daily driver and am in the process of exploring performance modifications. As much as I’d love to throw on an intake/exhaust and call it a day to keep my cars warranty… I’m exploring the route of tuning and potentially adding one of your kits (which I would imagine would require an upgraded charge pipe and turbo inlet pipe) At the same time, my number one goal with one of your kits would be to reduce carbon buildup, rather than maximize performance. What would be my best option given this information and would that option require a tune? (PS: PLEASE do not destroy me in the comments people, I’m just looking for info lol)

[@johaneskristanto3596]

Does water / meth injection work well with naturrally aspirated engines ?

[@snowperformance1]

It does work well! Not as well as it does on boosted applications but you'll still see benefits

[@johaneskristanto3596]

Thx​@@snowperformance1

[@andres070284]

MAP stage 2 ... any videos or recommendations for installation of the MAP sensor ? 2015 Mini Cooper S

[@billasohyeah]

For a 300 hp 1.8t how much would you think in a 50/50 methanol water mixture would I use in 100km?

[@ujrfkeids]

Just get a 2.5 gal or 3.5 mix you're own on cheap but your probably all done now

[@pospc2]

Just ordered a sno-210 for my gti. Can't wait to give it a go.

[@cordellingram808]

I’m torn between this and the aem progressive methanol kit. My tuner says Aem all the way but I wouldn’t mind saving a hundred bucks and going with a stage 2 snow.

[@pospc2]

@@cordellingram808 if you just want to control it by boost then the snow will do fine. I installed mine about 5 days ago and have seen a nice drop in charge temps and increased timing. I can't wait to get it tuned on the Dyno and see the improvements.

[@cordellingram808]

@@pospc2 did you go with the stage 1 snow or stage 2? my application is a supercharged honda prelude, that maxes out between 6-9psi pending on pulleys. do you have an IG or facebook? would love to see your kit hooked up.

[@pospc2]

@@cordellingram808 I went with a stage 2. Mine is a mk6 gti so turbo charged. I don't have IG or FB. My install is fairly simple.hatch mounted tank. Pump is mounted by the spare tire. Nylon hose ran under the kick panel carpet area. Into a grommet in the firewall. Then ran under the air box into the back side of the charge pipe right after intercooler. Controller is mounted in a vent pod.

[@cordellingram808]

@@pospc2random question, do you think a subwoofer in the trunk space would effect the reliability of the pump?

[@marioatrucking]

Nice. I have a 1995 t600 with a 12.7 Detroit series 60. My EGTs rise to 1600 when I'm racing. Thanks

[@atlasdelmar481]

Just to clarify, your stage 2 with boost gauge allows the user to select the PSI the WMI starts & at what PSI it stops working at? Would you say this would be the most ideal setup for a daily driver that only gets on the gas hard seldom throughout the drive? Also what delivery system do you implement? A single nozzle by the throttle body or a direct injection setup off the intake manifold runners? If you're system has a single nozzle setup, do you also provide the hardware to setup a direct injection setup? Finally is your system completely turn key in the sense that you supply everything needed to install and maintain the system which includes the WM mixture?

[@snowperformance1]

You set a start and full boost point that will be a linear progression.Yes this stage is perfect for a daily driver! Typical installations are single nozzle systems in the intake pipe.Yes everything needed for install is supplied however you will need to purchase the water methanol mixture.

[@atlasdelmar481]

@@snowperformance1 would you say that the stage 2 is a better daily driver setup over your stage 1?

[@snowperformance1]

@@atlasdelmar481 Yes i would say stage 2 is better for a daily.

[@MP-pz9oe]

What is the starting percentage rate with this controller ?

[@dominicmalara4793]

So what if u want all or nothing but also want the gauge? Can u do both or can u make all of them just do all or nothing

[@oliverhefer939]

@Snow Performance Water Methanol Injection is it possible to use the stage 2 n210 on a diesel application, was thinking of using it on my superduty but wanted to know as everywhere i searched up said it was universal and i just want to confirm

[@snowperformance1]

Yes it will work! That systems controller is based on boost alone so there should be no issue.

[@joseginorio6013]

Stage 2 map map controller? Is called for high compression set up ??

[@snowperformance1]

What do you mean?

[@joseginorio6013]

& sorry for the ghetto English my primary language is spanish My quection was : What stage & name is good for - high compression - nitrous ?

[@snowperformance1]

@@joseginorio6013 What vehicle are you working with?

[@joseginorio6013]

2000 toyota celica gts 11.5 forge piston 320cc injector Aem ems4 100 shot nitrous 93 octane Stage 2 exedy clutch/ fidanza flywheel Super tech block guard Supertech valve & retainer Stage 1 mwr

[@snowperformance1]

@@joseginorio6013 www.nitrousexpress.com/stage-3-boost-cooler-efi-2d-map-progressive-water-methanol-injection-kit-red-high-temp-nylon-quick-connect-fittings-sno-310.asp This system ran in EFI only mode would work great!

[@aaronbeven3240]

Thinking of running one of these kits on my B8 Audi S4. I find in most applications people are injecting pre throttle body, through the supercharger. However, I'm looking to use the SRM methanol injection spacer which is direct port injection, post supercharger. I wanted to know, If i use the SRM kit and I'm running one nozzle per cylinder, how accurately and evenly does the water/meth distribute? Might be a bit of a tuning problem if different cylinders are getting different amount of water/meth.

[@snowperformance1]

The purpose of a direct port is to get the best distribution possible. As long as the nozzle sizes are the same and its outputting good pressure that's going to be your best route.

[@kymahone]

99 Toyota Tacoma v6 trd supercharged 3.4L which kit??!

[@ernestolinares9811]

I have an 07 corvette base with a 2.9 whipple, cam, headers, boosta pump, oem fuel pump... I’m swapping the fuel pump for a 340 Lph new pump, and while I do that I want to add meth, my car is a daily I go to the track a couple of times, will the stage one be enough for what I do , I don’t plan on making a race car out of it , any suggestions and help will be greatly appreciated 👍🏽

[@InTheHookJohn]

I'm interested in adding this to a n/a Corvette ls2. I've got a FAST intake, headers and full exhaust (400 dyno rwhp). What kind of gains would be realistic?

[@snowperformance1]

Water Methanol on an N/A engine won't have as many benefits as a boosted application would have. The power made on an n/a car would be the ability to adjust the tune to add timing making the ultimate power increase. The w/m will add some power in general but the main power is made from being able to get more aggressive with the timing/ tune.

[@MinionnitrousBHPtoBHP]

Hi can you help me I am looking at your water and methanol kits I am looking to use them with a nitrous kit. I know most user methanol and water kit so they can advance the timing to produce more power but I am not looking to advance my timing . I am looking at it so i can use the w&m kit to call down the chamber so I don't have to pull the timing. If i dont go with the water and methanol kit am i better off running a separate fuel cell & putting E85 into that then going to my fuel solenoid. If that is the case do i just put e85 into the fuel sell or do I need to mix it with a bit of petrol. Say 1 part e85 and 3 parts petrol . So a 1to3 ratio. Can u help me work this out . Like I said I know people that use water and methanol so they can then advance the timing spark and produce more power. But i am just going to use the e85 only when spraying nitrous. So i am not sure what i can get away with . I no e85 is a lot colder even to the touch compared to petrol. I use 93 to 98 ron pump gas in the UK. But i am new to E85 , but been told it helps with the temperature in the chamber and again with the spark which with nitrous guys that key. As if i can get this right i dont need to pull timing at all. Or if i get a stand-alone ECU i could run advance timing. But for now i am just looking at e85 as a way of me to get around putting timing from the engine and I only spray my nitrous hear and there. So i fill up with pump gas petrol . Then if i need power i spray my nitrous. But i have to pull timing out even with out spraying nitrous timing has to be pulled so that way when you do spray it don't go bang. I am looking at E85 as away round this. I hope this makes sense to you and if u can help

[@AtticAZ]

Great video. V50 Stage 2 for me.

[@nonameguy6729]

Consider if I have gdi(direct injection. Not air-mixed fuel injection) non-turbo engined car. Is this product can help cleaning air intake system? I cannot allow carbon stuck in air intake, causing suffocation.

[@snowperformance1]

Our systems would be great for that!

[@jstealth5861]

Hello Adam, great video I think I know the answer to my question but thought I'd verify it anyway. Question: The controllers can upgraded or are interchangeable with the stage 1-3 kits correct? So originally I thought all I needed was the on/off boost switch so I purchased the stage 1 stainless steel braided line kit. It's a really nice kit, I just started installation of it. Actually I bought 2 stage 1 kits one for my car and one for my sons car (he paid me back for it lol) So changed my mind and now I've just ordered the vc50 controller for my car for a progressive flow and to replace my boost gauge. We're also ordering the vc30 controller for sons car. I'm pretty sure I can use the new controllers with my stage 1 kits but wanted to confirm after I've already made the order 🤦🏻‍♂️😂

[@snowperformance1]

You can definitely interchange controllers! You just need to follow the new ones wiring diagram.

[@CJ2Fye7]

@@snowperformance1 I’m building a 6.0 Ly6 bored 30 thou over fully forged new heads fat cam and p1sc procharger tuner kit for my 2000 f body running stock ecu and plan on keeping the stock ecu. Was wondering what kit to use will be wanting to push 700+ whp. Very new to meth injection so wanted to ask thanks in advance. Will not be a drag car but will be at WOT a good bit since I will autocross the car sometimes but mostly it will be a everyday use type of build to a certain extent. To clarify will be drove back and forth to school every now and then which is a lil over an hour drive, high spirited driving (roll raced on occasion.) So a fun reliable street/track monster.

[@sasaobradovic4845]

What is the different between to use just pure Methanol or water Methanol ?

[@TfromDaygo]

Can anyone tell me if this is legal in CA ? I wanna do this to my 320i mostly for hp gains but preventing carbon buildup would be lovely also

[@snowperformance1]

We are unable to ship to California, your best bet would be finding one of our dealers located closest to you.

[@Juicey3887]

I have a 2004 GTO that I added a LSA supercharger along with cam and heads etc to it the car would be a daily driver What system would you recommend and also I would need a nozzle that will be able to go into a silicone intake tube thanks

[@StelaPop]

I'm interested in your systems for the application on a 2022+ Subaru WRX, and I'm wondering if you have any installation and testing shops in or around Vancouver BC Canada?

[@snowperformance1]

A performance shop in your area should be able to install our systems, I don't have any names on file here

[@CRSwift]

What about for a BMW diesel straight 6 350-400hp. What nozzle size and system?

[@snowperformance1]

give us a call 1-888-GOFAST-1

[@joerichardson6107]

Hello Snow pERFORMANCE, looking to buy Snow Performance PROGRESSIVE WATER METH INJECTION KIT 210 with a vc-50 controller and trunk upgrade. What is the life span of this system roughly, esp the pump and solenoid. Thank you!

[@snowperformance1]

As long as its properly maintained a system can see over 10 years of consistent use easily.

[@joerichardson6107]

Is the proper maintenance outlined with the kit? Like at x mileage check or replace this item?

[@balloutyves]

Bonjour,est ce que l'on peut instaler ce kit sur un moteur diesel ? MERCI

[@snowperformance1]

Nous avons des systèmes diesel disponibles, vérifiez ce système www.nitrousexpress.com/Diesel-Stage-2-5-Boost-Cooler-Water-Methanol-Injection-Kit-Universal-Stainless-Steel-Braided-Line.asp

[@alitoroganan2442]

Can i use a diesel kit on a petrol turbo application, cheers

[@snowperformance1]

We recommend using the kit/s intended for your application, rather than retrofitting a kit that is designed for your use.

[@alitoroganan2442]

@@snowperformance1 but its the same nozzle for petrol and diesel correct?

[@MrPONCHO467]

What kit is best for a 2014 5.3 Silverado

[@joev5842]

Can any one of these systems be used on a blown Ford Flathead with a carburetor & 10 lbs. of boost?

[@snowperformance1]

We do have some carbureted systems! I will link it below- www.nitrousexpress.com/stage-1-boost-cooler/

[@trevorthomas6043]

Fail safe?

[@87ferrarif40]

How do I know when the pump fails?

[@snowperformance1]

If a pump is to fail then the application of course would not get any water/meth which will be apparent by egt, afr, plug reading, feeling of power loss, and so on.

[@blackriflex39]

i have a 06 ford mustang gt with a vortech v3 non intercooled system what kit would you recomend and will it run off a 93 octane tuned pcm without needing a retune? thank you

[@snowperformance1]

We always recommend a tune to get the most benefit out of your system, however you can get it to operate without one. Personally I think the stage 2, 2.5 and 3 are all great options for street/daily driven type vehicles.

[@danhoy8356]

Stock, naturally aspirated engine, fuel injected.. stage 1 be a good option for daily driver?

[@snowperformance1]

Stage 1 with a WOT switch would be good. It would only be active at full throttle though.

[@SweatyMushroomz]

Snow Performance Water Methanol Injection where could I get a WOT switch for an N/A engine

[@snowperformance1]

@@SweatyMushroomz www.nitrousexpress.com/wot-switch-w-bracket-and-bolts-15524.asp

[@garmoggrog]

So if I buy a stage 3 kit. i need a tune. would MPT make a tune for me even though they don't sell this product?

[@snowperformance1]

A tune is definitely recommended to get the most out of the system. That is something I would contact them about to make sure they are capable.

[@FranklinIrelan]

For a low boost application like you would see on a 5.7 hemi (7-9lbs), does a progressive system still make since? Or does the small boost range mitigate the need for it?

[@snowperformance1]

I still recommend a progressive system for something like that. A non-progressive application would be more for a drag racing application or something like that where the vehicle is at WOT for a short amount of time.

[@michaelgearhart6685]

@@snowperformance1 on a hp ecoboost 2.0 build would you reccomend the stage 2 or the 3 for my goals hoping to fuel it solely on pump gas as no ethanol is available local to me but hoping to hit 500whp with my build. I'll have multiple tunes and won't always need to spray meth, is the stage 3 able to turn off the spray easily like the stage 2 or 2.5?

[@snowperformance1]

@@michaelgearhart6685 Stage 3 will give you a little more precise injection than the stage 2 however I think personally the stage 2 is more attractive and works fine for most people. If you decide to get a stage 3 you will need to wire a switch inline to the power to have it be able to turn on and off.

[@Polemicist_]

@@snowperformance1 How long does a gallon of your 50/50 blend last in your vehicle? What is your fuel injectors' flow rate, MPG, fuel tank size, HP, and torque? Also, for an engine with an 11:1 compression ratio, would your system allow me to run regular 85 octane with no octane booster and eliminate knocking? Just wondering because I drive a 1998 Ford Expedition with a 5.4L V8 Triton 2V that I want to upgrade to a 11:1 compression ratio to help maximize my engine's efficiency.

[@davansookwah7363]

I have a sr20 non turbo which kit can be used if possible thanks..

[@snowperformance1]

www.nitrousexpress.com/stage-3-boost-cooler-efi-2d-map-progressive-water-methanol-injection-kit-red-high-temp-nylon-quick-connect-fittings-sno-310.asp

[@snowperformance1]

This in EFI only mode would work good!

[@Akpepper22]

So I have a 17 mustang 5.0. Its all stock besides having a hpipe & Li race tune on it. Its my daily driver too. Would it be safe to run a W/M kit on it?

[@snowperformance1]

You would be using a WOT activated system so it would not be on all the time. As long as you get a good tune with it yes it will be safe to use.

[@robkamstra]

I have an older v25 controller system. Are there components that I can upgrade like the nozzle and a solenoid. This is for a procharged F1X making about 17 -18lbs at around 900-1000 hp. Or should I look at a different system? Here is the setup albeit it is faster now kzbin.info/www/bejne/oKKwlausjL6sp5I

[@snowperformance1]

You could definitely upgrade to a newer style nozzle, solenoid, pump, even controller. Since the vc-25 was discontinued we have upgraded essentially every main component in the system to make sure they are more reliable and perform better than ever.

[@arkangelsklucifer]

Do you provide CA legal CARB-EO sticker with this product or mail direct only?

[@snowperformance1]

Hello, please email us directly at [e-mail] and we can get you squared away. Thanks!

[@mariuss8668]

Anyway I can install this on a naturally aspirated big block with carb?

[@snowperformance1]

Our stage one system would work for you. It activates via WOT. www.nitrousexpress.com/stage-1-boost-cooler/

[@HowieLop]

When Android or IOS apps w/ bluethoot interface to operate STAGE 4 controller?

[@snowperformance1]

That is not something that is planning on being done at the moment.

[@ogstreaky2728]

I have a Chevy Sonic and I wanna ask how much is it for the tune and methane injection togethor I just want my car to stop losing power due to heat soak and how much is it to add a fail safe I just wanna add that nothing more due to the fact a Sonic ain’t really a race car

[@snowperformance1]

Shoot us a email directly to [e-mail] and we can get you squared away! Thanks

[@timleonard86]

Will it destroy wideband o2?

[@snowperformance1]

No, our systems will not damage your O2 sensor

[@dzemaluddincausevic2149]

what kit would be the best for my 2017 x5m f85 stage 2?

[@snowperformance1]

The stage 3 system would work well for that application! www.nitrousexpress.com/stage-3-boost-cooler-direct-injected-2d-map-progressive-water-methanol-injection-kit-stainless-steel-braided-line-4an-fittings-sno-320-brd.asp

[@marktaylor3630]

You guys make any kits for a 2011 volvo s40

[@snowperformance1]

Naturally aspirated or boosted?

[@marktaylor3630]

Turbo 5 cylinder

[@snowperformance1]

@@marktaylor3630 www.nitrousexpress.com/stage-2-gasoline.asp This system would work well.

[@futten3230]

what kit would work best on a blow thru carb setup?

[@snowperformance1]

Assuming it is a 4150 we would recommend the part number in this link. www.snowperformance.net/stage-1-boost-cooler-forced-induction-water-methanol-injection-kit-red-high-temp-nylon-tubing-quick-connect-fittings-sno-201.asp We do offer a 4500 flange version as well ig you need a plate for the bigger flange.

[@simonmwangi9538]

Can i install this system on 1500cc non-turbo 2000 nissan sunny fb15, and what would be the advantage?

[@javiermr82]

i have a mustang 2007 gt 3v supercharged 16psi. what stage recomend?

[@snowperformance1]

Hey Javier, thanks for the comment! Please shoot us a email directly to [e-mail] and we can get you squared away. Thanks!

[@greggazca991]

What stage will be better for my 1.4 TSI Golf Mk6, also I have stage 2

[@peterbeertema6494]

Are any of the staged systems vehicle specific. I have a 2018 f150 2.7 ecoboost.

[@snowperformance1]

Hey Peter, thanks for the comment! We do have vehicle specific stage 2s! Please reach out to us directly to [e-mail] and we can take care of you from there. Thanks

[@peterbeertema6494]

Ok thanks. I'm in Western Canada and was also wanting to know if you have retailers here. The freight costs and cross border hassles and fees can be a deal breaker on some great products.

[@rjb3721]

What stage is better for 500 hp?

[@snowperformance1]

I would say a stage 2, 2.5 or 3 would work well

[@skippyfixit]

Will methanol injection hurt cats?

[@snowperformance1]

No sir

[@snowperformance1]

No sir it won't

[@Ninja-357-]

Can I use the vc50 controller and AEM pump??

[@snowperformance1]

yes the VC-50 will control an AEM pump

[@Ninja-357-]

Snow Performance Water Methanol Injection also is there any way to run more psi then 50psi

[@snowperformance1]

@@Ninja-357- You can run more boost but the controller will not progress after 50psi it will be at 100% from there on.

[@Ninja-357-]

Snow Performance Water Methanol Injection so if I go over 50psi it will keep on spraying is that right thanks

[@snowperformance1]

@@Ninja-357- Thats correct.

[@Sinnamonrool]

What exact setup would you recommend for a 16'-18' 6th gen I-4 2.0 Turbo Camaro?

[@snowperformance1]

I would recommend the SNO-210. Its an easy to use and install controller while giving you something that is very effective and beneficial to use.

[@sergsrt8]

Are these kits universal?

[@snowperformance1]

For the most part yes. We have universal kits and vehicle specific kits.

[@benvial1672]

What is the best stage for supercharged……ls 427

[@snowperformance1]

Hey Ben, thanks for the comment! Please shoot us a email directly to [e-mail] and we can get you squared away. Thanks!

[@daytonkeyes84]

@@snowperformance1 is there a kit suitable for a 2005 Cadillac Deville. It is naturally aspirated, all original.

[@ocsplc]

There’s no replacement for displacement

[@wiggenvan]

*naturally aspirated* lol

[@JETZcorp]

There are lots of super high-compression NA builds that would benefit from this when race gas or E85 isn't possible to use all the time. Hell, my grandpa used to get one of his sons to slowly pour a glass of water down the carb of a 440 big-block in a motor-home while going over Mount Hood. It didn't add any power, but it cooled things down and cleaned the valves and pistons like crazy.

[@wiggenvan]

Did you mean to comment that under my comment?

[@wiggenvan]

I only meant that he kept saying normally aspirated instead of naturally aspirated

[@JETZcorp]

@wiggenvan Oh. That's just a dialect thing. Like aluminum vs aluminium.

[@wiggenvan]

@@JETZcorp Oh sure enough, I didn't know that, I just assumed it was a slip of the tongue. Thanks