Who becomes an elder next?

[@mrssmile5531]

I'm glad they killed off few characters of Thunderclan in TBC. However, I'm not glad they killed the interesing characters who actually had personality (Stemleaf, Rosepetal).

[@frannie4310]

I miss Rosepetal :,(

[@lapinajustleft]

Yeah. They should’ve killed one of the clone babies like Leafshade, Hollytuft, or Honeyfur. No one cares about them. At least Rosepetal and Stemleaf had their own characters instead of “yeah I’m here to fill in scenes and be retconed every book”

[@HiHi-lt1cb]

And berrynose 🥲

[@thelanktheist2626]

Also it’s going to be immediately negated considering the fact that Spotfur has had kids to basically replace over half the cats that died in those books.

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

​@@lapinajustlefttbf im guessing they avoided the filler characters bc there was no real connection to any of them

[@Rainbowpaw_shine]

I've always been thinking, "Snowbirds HAS to be the oldest cat, right???" She's always just THERE

[@PIGEONS_AndAXOLOTLS]

MistyStar: *am I a joke to you?*

[@wrenithilduincats]

​@@PIGEONS_AndAXOLOTLS She's dead now.

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

​@@PIGEONS_AndAXOLOTLStbf mistystar is the oldest canon cat bc we have a time of her being born, snowbird is much more unclear. plus if we're going by still living cats shes probably up as a contender

[@Countcluckular]

Also mosspelt is just aggressively old, I think she was alive in leopardstars honor?

[@FestiveAstro]

Brightheart is also old since she was born at the start of into the wild

[@frannie4310]

The Macgyverkit idea makes me hope that if Dovewing has more kits she’ll name one Purdykit

[@compassrose1466]

This makes me giggle imagining their warrior names because Purdyfur or Purdyfang is so goofy but also so cute 😭

[@andistansbury4366]

​@@compassrose1466I present to you: *PÜRÐÝŞTÀR*

[@Starlight_787-r9k]

I feel like Dovewing is too old to have more kits after Birchkit and Rowankit. I mean, she is already 7 years old, she-cats are more or less fertile until that age.

[@sl4ckhound]

weh .. purdyface..

[@dreamiinotdream730]

Age really is the funniest thing in warriors because you’ll have perfectly young cats like Mousefur who retired in the second arc and are treated as old people and then you’ll have actual old people still having babies and in dangerous patrols being young and nimble.

[@veqium]

It’s like that’s how aging works for different people in real life too or something

[@andistansbury4366]

Mousefur, who was repeatedly called "young" in the previous series: man I sure am old now. Thornclaw, who has been around since series one and is still there: oh boy! TIME FOR THE DAWN PATROL!

[@Whistlechip]

Whitewing being 10 YEARS OLD:

[@curiousauthor9827]

@@andistansbury4366 honestly though. i used to know a guy who was a 75 year old landlord with heart problems who would be out mowing the lawn of his rental property (which was next to my house at the time) at like 10am in the middle of july. thornclaw is this to me

[@michellelopez2170]

About the weird timeline, something that has bothered me for months. Ashkit (fur) and Fernkit (cloud) were born in Into The Wild. They were still apprentices in The Darkest Hour. The time between Into The Wild and The Darkest Hour is about two years. Yet they're apprenticed a little less than a year old, near warrior age. And just before the Bloodclan battle, Ash and Fern ask to be become warriors with Thornclaw and Brightheart and Firestar declines. Why? Because they're "too young". THEY'RE A YEAR YOUNGER THAN FIRESTAR.

[@snowikitt1558]

Probably even less? Wasn’t Firestar like six moons in Into The Wild?

[@No-longer1]

@@snowikitt1558 He was The age difference between them is probably 5 months

[@ThePerfectReaction]

Wait a minute...

[@Rustfeather]

"Someone please name a kit 'Mcgyver'kit. *if you do it for Graystripe you do it for Mcgyver"-Moonkitti, 2024

[@Snowstar837]

Wow, I knew Whitewing had been an apprentice for a long time but it only just registered to me that Squilf was made a warrior in front of everyone while being 5 moons younger than her 😂 that must have stung! Also wow. Leafpool really had her kits young!

[@SleepingBramble13]

MossPelt is another old one. She randomly appeared as a queen and rising storm, and is still alive as an elder, as of the third book of A Starless clan

[@consueno753]

Good point. She was the one to raise Stormkit and Feathekit. She must be around Mistystar's age

[@hnitsua]

Watch out mistystar, your throne is getting stolen (5 mins ago)

[@yellercat500cat7]

Wasn’t she also retconned to be around Leopardstar’s age too in Leopard’s super edition. She becomes Frogleap’s mate before Crookedstar dies and Frogleap is only like a moon or 2 older than Leopardstar along with all the other kits that were born at the end Crookedstar’s Promise.

[@alexissims295]

I swear I remember Tawnypelt either being an elder and coming out of retirement or someone telling her to retire and her saying hell no

[@SketchUT]

Probably in that one book where she and Shadowsight (I think as Shadowkit) went off somewhere. I know I read it I just can’t for the life of me remember the book name. My encyclopedic knowledge of this series doesn’t extend to book titles apparently lmao

[@alexissims295]

@@SketchUT That's absolutely the one I'm thinking of!

[@deweyr_fisher]

@@SketchUTTawnypelt’s Clan? I think that’s the title

[@ratnermanor]

guys i know im four months late but it might’ve been in tigerheart’s shadow?? maybe?

[@frenchiit]

I feel like Beezepelt is going to become the next Ashfur's blonde wig meme

[@riban3768]

jayfeather will never die

[@deweyr_fisher]

if he does the fandom will riot and they’ll probably just act like it was a mistake and cutely retcon it, lol

[@Sato-Juno]

​@deweyr_fisher can't wait for him to be hundreds of human years old 🤩

[@ColettaCotleta]

И Львиносвет😊 Львиносвету надо стать предводителем и дожить до 275 лун. Ибо это уже совсем порог старости. В варе от старости в 275 лун можно попасть в ЗП.

[@Asherrr-q4p]

Lionblaze and Jayfeather will never die

[@safaat1116]

I can't be the only one who didn't know that Whitewing is OLDER than squilf right?

[@miawmiawmiawmi]

NO OFC NOT, I FORGOT LMAOO

[@StarryKnight-db5ro]

I love Ratscar's rat scar

[@JustDuckiest]

I feel like the writers just look at the wiki ages for reference anyways, so I generally listen to those even though it's probably mostly wrong lol

[@musicplaylists6718]

They definitely do, I'm pretty sure they've said one or twice they use the wiki and accidently linked the wiki in the Onestar's Confession excerpt

[@iwakeupandboomimarat]

kate said shes used the wiki before so probably lol

[@andistansbury4366]

You. You are the next elder. Your time has come Moonkitti. *.*

[@Jam_Sparks]

Shoutout to Littlebird, the ShadowClan cat who is somehow elder age for the entirety of Yellowfang’s Secret. She only appears in StarClan at Tigerclaw’s nine lives ceremony so who knows how long that girl was going for

[@sidegrabsheriff]

My boy Macgyver! absolute favourite skyclan warrior!

[@Wolfpawforever]

​@@natalieomeara0220mdfanMac-guy-ver that's how my cousin who has an actual cat with that name pronounces it anyway

[@Frostfern94]

@@natalieomeara0220mdfanI pronounce it “Mc-jy-ver”

[@sidegrabsheriff]

@@Wolfpawforever thats how I pronounce it!

[@Storm-bv7pc]

Woohoo!! More Moonkitti analysis vids!

[@ieatmice751]

12 really isn’t that old for a cat to be honest. My cat is 19 and she’s almost completely as active and put together as she was when she was young. Maybe my cat is like part of the kitty masterace or something but surely 12 isn’t ancient

[@PIGEONS_AndAXOLOTLS]

She’s taking skin scare

[@warppowder1428]

I think part of it is that wild cats don't live as long as house cats due to being at risk of predators weather illness etc. But cause their all fictional cats I can see there being some suspension of disbelief as well lol

[@HALF-BROKEN]

​@warppowder1428 well they die of illness and predators but if none of that kills them off I'm pretty sure they live as long as most housecats, maybe even longer cuz they aren't obese

[@PIGEONS_AndAXOLOTLS]

@@HALF-BROKEN good point about ethe obese part, I have a 12 y/o cat that weighs 17 pounds with her twin at 15

[@Draconicdisciple]

I've seen lots of cats starting to develop their old age diseases at 11+, like Pyometra if they weren't spayed. So I think 11+ is definitely when a cat's body will start slowing down or start showing the effects of their lifespan.

[@PommieTheYoomie]

If Macgyver dies I'm naming an OC Macgyverkit

[@mushroomleg3151]

2:17 im sorry this is completely off topic, but I wheezed at "beezepelt" 😭

[@miawmiawmiawmi]

hold on im leaving my current timestamp to look at this. 9:24

[@miawmiawmiawmi]

BEEZEPELT :3

[@wrenithilduincats]

I love how the clans have the ability to simly manifest new cats lol

[@catacid4938]

Tawnypelt is the new Rock

[@fuzzyleafwarrior9956]

I thought Mothwing was a really old cat.. but she's only a bit older than leafpool and squirrelflight, she was a new warrior before deciding to become a medicine cat while leafpool was a new leafpaw?

[@GrimmDelightsDice]

3:02 A tiny thing that has bothered me for YEARS is that there are two half-moons in a mooncycle but the cats all imply that medcats only meet once per moon?????

[@Vi11ainous]

i like to think Daisy was one of the sisters because shes visually similar to tree and rootspring and shares their naming trends

[@Bread_Is_Nummy]

Moon you inspired me to read warriors and made me die laughing

[@jedicatz]

you know it'll be a good day when moonkitti releases another warrior cats analysis video

[@aptekagneva]

12:18 this bramblepaw is so darn cute

[@ScribbleSnom]

Thank you for teaching me how to pronounce Macgyver’s name! It was a topic I’ve been confused about for almost 7 years 😂

[@mint_scratch]

If we get a windclan POV I really RALLY want it to be Harestar-

[@FinnyThePorg]

7:00 I think the Erins completely forgot about Fernsong

[@aloooonaspider]

ngl your analysis videos are my absolute favorite! I clicked on this video the second I saw it

[@saeflin]

This just makes me want to see a parent & child together in the elders den in a sense that their parent is just ancient and still around i think it could be an interesting dynamic.

[@Whistlechip]

Whitewing could join Cloudtail and Brightheart soon

[@applekoi8639]

In my heart, daisy never retires. She stays, and she continues to help around camp and be midwife till the end of her days. I think she loves her job and simply just one day going to get really old and (hopefully) die in her sleep. Daisy deserves the world 💜

[@Countcluckular]

I feel like if Bramble ever dies, stormcloud should be squilfs(squils?) mate, even though my preference is that squilf doesnt deal with anymore "mate problems" they seem to really like giving cats mate after mate after mate, look at clear sky and gray wing for example. I know squilf mentored stormcloud, but i always saw it as a cloudpaw and brightpaw thing. Also in bramblestars storm, stormcloud acts very determined in a way that mirrors squirrelpaw, which I find cute. 2:05: BEEZEPELT :D

[@snakesareamazing]

I feel like Stormcloud would work better as Sparkpelts mate. Not only would it be nice for Sparkpelt to get a new mate in general, but they also actually have some nice scenes together in Squilfs SE. When Sparkpelt is too depressed to take care of her kits, Stormcloud often played with them outside the nursery. And he also visited her a lot and brought her some prey because she wasnt eating enough. It was really sweet

[@HiHi-lt1cb]

@@snakesareamazingyeah id love Stormcloud to be with either Sparkpelt or Cherryfall ❤

[@deweyr_fisher]

@@HiHi-lt1cbit’s kind of depressing that Stormcloud’s still single, especially since he could finally introduce some new blood into the literal puddle of muddy water that is ThunderClan’s gene pool. I assume it has something to do with him being non-Clanborn since most of the useless battle fodder ThunderClan keeps producing have paired up, poor guy.

[@simbasimba3959]

@@snakesareamazing yeah, I also felt like sparkpelt should have gotten another mate, but since spark was so depressed after larksongs death, I feel it would be wrong for her to move on

[@HiHi-lt1cb]

@@deweyr_fisher I honestly think the writers forgot about him😭 like, he and Cherryfall were close in Bramblestar's storm and it said she's the reason he stayed in the clan! Then in Squirrelflight's hope they show him being close to Sparkpelt, so I really hope they pair him up with one of the ginger she-cats because we NEED new blood in the clan 😭

[@ThinaliGovinnage]

Moonkitti explains things so well, It really helped me understand much more about elders. Thank you so much! :D

[@Vincebae00]

Sorry to comment late on this, this is like my 5th rewatch of this video (hi Moonkitti, big fan lol) but I wonder how long it will take for the Erins to realize Mosspelt is still an elder. Like, she's probably around Mistystar's age and she was the one to suckle Stormfur and Feathertail when they got taken to Riverclan. She's getting to be an old little kitty. We were all making jokes about immortal Mistystar when we should have been talking about my girl Mosspelt.

[@goldenretrieversarethebest8119]

I feel like Frostpaw is gonna end up being the leader of Riverclan with how Riverstar is treating her. I'd also kind of like to see Rootspring and Nightheart become deputy and eventually leader of thunderclan and skyclan but I don't trust the Erins ability to do that.

[@Draconicdisciple]

Personally I would rather Nightheart become ThunderClan's mediator, I think his character's unique pov would lend itself well to that, and it'd help flesh out the mediator position among all the clans.

[@goldenretrieversarethebest8119]

@@Draconicdisciple That would be interesting to see as well. Honestly, they could do a lot of things that i would be alright with as long as they do it right.

[@Splashclaw]

This aged like fine wine

[@goldenretrieversarethebest8119]

@@Splashclaw indeed. Icestar was kind of my second choise because I just couldn't see Mothwing being it and everyone else in riverclan is just incompetent, however I still feel like it would have been much more interesting for Frostpaw to be it since we've never had a apprentice or medicine cat jump straight to leader.

[@floweringfawn]

Bellaleaf should be the next leader of SkyClan

[@Joshwillmakeamovieaboutyou]

No MacGyver

[@Luna_moon_1127]

Bellastar… 🫨 I demand macgyverstar

[@Whistlechip]

Rabbitleap would be a decent leader

[@BlazeHasQuit]

Nah Harrybrook

[@_exolite]

Honestly I don’t see Daisy retiring. She probably will raise kits until she dies.

[@lotus6374]

Hello Moon! Love the talking format, it’s my favourite😊

[@kelseyjoy4811]

Is no one going to talk about Ratscar's genius design... his scar being rat-shaped 😂

[@MoonPelt]

I love how Spotfur gave birth to her kits after her husband died-

[@Missmultyfandom]

So did Sparkpelt

[@IcestarZ]

@@Missmultyfandom Technically Larksong was still alive when she gave birth and he died after seeing the younger one die

[@ssprrsh]

115 upload streak, still going strong on never missing an upload 8) Love your content, it's always entertaining no matter what it is. Whether it's a speed paint, talking/mini-talking, the shorter videos that are funny, everything is just so fun to watch over and over. Thanks for being awesome, I'll try to become a patron soon so you can get some more deserved money

[@emmettrose5960]

Hey Moonkitti! Thanks for making this video. Just a request for future ones: could you please check that text on the screen stays above the captions? KZbin’s iOS app handles captions pretty badly. Whenever you enable or disable captions, it displays a message saying “subtitles/CC turned on” for five seconds. This pop up actually covers half of the captions and it can be frustrating to wait for an extra 10 seconds every time there’s text overlapping the captions. I fully understand if it’s not feasible for you to redo videos that are basically done/ready to be posted, but going forward, it would help make your videos more accessible to your hearing impaired audience.

[@strawberryqueen0382]

It’s not ideal but on OC you’re able to move the caption placement with your mouse, unfortunately it’s not a universal feature. This consideration from Moon would def go a long way!

[@emmettrose5960]

@@strawberryqueen0382 That is a very useful feature! Thank you for offering your insight, I'll have to look into it more. I'm mostly discussing this for d/Deaf and HOH viewers using iOS, since that's what I have the most experience with. Those of us who have access to Bluetooth compatibility with our phones often prefer doing so, as disconnecting from the phone and reconnecting to a laptop can be tedious and many headphones are just not designed for hearing aids.

[@tuna-marmalade]

the fresh feeling of thinking of who to go to their retirement home you have help on the way from moonkitti

[@CrystallineCollie]

Thank you for talking about the Snowbird thing I appreciate this I have been talking about this for YEARS

[@beescxpe]

i love hawkwing he is so unbelievably stupid; like a breath of fresh air for the 3 and a half books that he had a personality ❤

[@Bread_Is_Nummy]

I get so exited when I see you post a video

[@Dustii3421]

Firestar (looking at moon) “looks like a half moon to me”

[@clarehidalgo]

I've had acts that still act super energetic at 12 and not start looking old until like 15 then had others that have started looking old at 12

[@honeycreek3713]

Slightfoot is interesting, I assume he’s as old as Breezepelt?

[@sugariguess]

excited to watch another moonkitti analysis video !

[@Sub2MushRam]

Some deep lore diving guys.

[@socrates_fox]

Hey moonkitti, what art program do you use? I’m trying to get into drawing but I’m lacking a good app

[@iridiumSerpent]

Procreate is good if you use an ipad

[@Moonkitti]

for actual drawings I use clip studio. One time fee and goes on sale all the time

[@Frostfern94]

@@Moonkitticlip studio had a one-time fee?! Damn I have the monthly fee. I thought it was the only option 😔

[@socrates_fox]

@@Moonkitti yo thanks!

[@elisabethcheesedragon]

I always viewed Daisy as the cat equivalent middle aged woman honestly.I don’t have a reason.

[@Waveosea]

Imagine if Daisy was retconned to be one of Firestar's siblings from a later litter. Imagine how messed up the family tree would be.

[@penguinbear9432]

I want everyone to know that every time bramblestar is onscreen in these videos my dog stops what she’s doing and growls at him. She does not do do this with any of the other characters.

[@xXSunStrikeXx]

LMAO

[@starvoltnexus3139]

So has Riverclan just been dunked on since AVOS

[@MmmmBroogln]

Video 2 of asking moonkitti to do Brindleface

[@ssigmaboy047]

I love your vids Moonkitti! ♥️

[@aprilm96]

I think 12 is a good age for warrior cats to retire. I know cats can live quite a long time. My cat is 16. But it makes sense that warriors would have a shorter lifespan because of their lifestyle. Not only can they die from predators, battles, and whatnot. But the rigorous training and patrolling probably also takes a toll on their bodies making them become “older” at a younger age. Which is one reason why I think Daisy does not seem as old as she actually is because she doesn’t train and patrol everyday.

[@NellaJade]

The Whitewing rule is now absolutely canon

[@Thesladenator97]

Also, the writers have realised this and are making all the cats have kits when theyre older. Hence why they introduced a bunch of cats who dont want to immediately have kittens.

[@mishadixon3694]

Moonkitti would you consider Warrior cats as grocery stores?

[@Gregdogg]

Wariol Kets

[@xevilgothgirlx]

LOVE that scorchfur hc

[@lj2659]

I want Leafstar to pass away or step down so bad. She has been leader since BEFORE THE NEW PROPHECY!!!! We need a new Skyclan leader. Hopefully Hawkwing becomes rash and irresponsible and we get some good drama

[@_exolite]

From what I recall, crowfeather is implied to be rather old and begging up there in years.

[@thunderowl]

He's born at the beginning of Firestar's Quest, so slightly older than Whitewing.

[@freyagamlin1145]

my personal headcannon is that thunderclan *isnt* significantly bigger than the other clans but there are just cats we don’t see in the other allegiances because the protagonists just don’t ever interact with them. just makes me feel like i’m losing my mind a bit less often when thinking about the books

[@moikey109]

I can’t be the only one who got annoyed with Ratscar suddenly just appearing, getting me attached to him. Just to throw him away😭

[@clarehidalgo]

A lot of the the cat age charts say 12 is ~64-65 which like is retirement age for a lot of people so it checks out I guess

[@Theaterkid195]

Yay another Moonkitti upload!

[@holly_ghostcat]

Tawnypelt must live forever

[@Citrullusflower]

Yeah

[@YellowTheSus]

dont worry moonkitti youre not the only hawkwing fan >:]

[@WingedDash]

You always manage to upload a video at the same exact same time as MrBeast. How do you do that!? 😂

[@andistansbury4366]

Question (and I know this doesn't have anything to do with the video but still): what do you think of Erin Hunter's other series (Seekers and Survivers)

[@Jewels_Dragons._]

istg if they off mosspelt i will cry

[@damlatorun6756]

Everybody wake up it’s a new moonkitti vid

[@evergreencometogrow1]

I will be happy wen lion blaze is a elder

[@ThrashtheTrash]

TEQ PREVIEW SPOILERS Welcome to the retirement, Cherrytail, Sparrowpelt, and Nightcloud!

[@charchukk]

(come back shrewtooth) is so real

[@TsunayoshiSawada469]

I always assumed that the cat ages are based off how long cats survive outside. Cuz indoor cats/pets survive a lot longer than outdoor/strays I thought

[@Cinemamuffin]

Man the video is definitely not about this but. I always thought that Fernsong couldn't do what Daisy does because... well... even as a teenager, I thought the implication behind Daisy was a sort of cat wetnurse, feeding the kittens who's mothers couldn't do so for whatever reason. Like I'm not saying she's done that any time recently, but I thought that was always the implication in case there were kits who needed it. Boy cats can't do that, right? But I realize that might be an elephant in the room/overthinking it for a kids book series, haha. Overall though: I would love to see more elders. Just in a "congratulations! You survived the meat grinder that is this book series!" sort of way. I think it's really fun to see characters that have lasted through the whole series (even minor ones!) get old enough to retire gracefully.

[@taeko3508]

Daisy is not a wetnurse actually She takes care of the kids but can't feed them That's why Sorrelstripe was nursing Flamekit and Finchkit in Squirrelflight's Hope and Sunshine was nursing Coriander and Little Daisy in Daisy's kin

[@Cinemamuffin]

@@taeko3508 Oh, interesting! :0 Forgot about those, thanks!

[@Eb33j]

YAY MOONKITTI

[@NellaJade]

It's good Bramblestar stepped down because he's an old man. It's cool we get a Squirrelstar. But guys, please remember Squirrelstar is like 2 months younger than Bramblestar-. Honestly, she should probably be retiring too. At this rate she's going to be the new Mistystar.

[@the_iris_of_my_eye3271]

No she's at least a year younger since Brambleclaw was a young warrior in firestars quest where Squirrelflight was born

[@FeatherwishWC]

Video 1 of asking Moon for an "I spoil Bluestar's Prophecy" video

[@murderleaf_WC]

gosh the likes and views on this video are insane even tho its been 2 HOURS-

[@Frivzy76]

I always disliked the fact that whitewing was made a warrior moons after Squirrelflight. Like she is older then her and was around for her training when squirrelflight wasn’t.

[@audreyslaughter7699]

Tak about Jayfeather (2)

[@shadowhacker424]

Uh funfact, in one of the guides it states that a moon is 2 weeks

[@shadowhacker424]

@@Moony1568 the original, cats of the clans, though maybe it was retconned later

[@ironwolf5802]

Yeah, time is weird.

[@xevilgothgirlx]

macgyverstar, or macstar?? hmmm

[@oliviab5540]

YAy Moon kitty!!

[@Bread_Is_Nummy]

Hi moon

[@ReaperRocks]

Day 107 through 111 (missed like 5 days) of asking moonkitti to talk about Larksong (prequel one not sparkpelts mate)

[@Thesladenator97]

its like playing clan gen. Most of your cats dont ever make it to elder age.

[@Be3tle.bit3]

Hiiii!!!

[@analoraineabel-dy9747]

yes!!! More analysis!!! Gimme!