Who is Behind the Mask and Rift? God of War Theory

In this video, I will be giving my take on the God of War community's favorite new mystery, Odin's Mask and Rift.
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[@Zoki4444]

It's the Ship Captain. He's been behind it all the entire time. When Kratos killed him, he was chosen.

[@parthchoudhary5534]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ouroboros313]

🤯

[@jacksonsgaming2024]

The Chosen One

[@danieldevine7972]

“Not you again!”

[@masontyler479]

Boy you on one right now. New theory!!

[@Timbo__Slice]

I was simultaneously both really disappointed and really appreciated the fact we didn't get to see into the rift it would be cool to get a glimpse of the higher realm but I like that they left it a mystery

[@KaptainKuba]

Yeah I totally understand why it had to happen but also wanted to see lol maybe it's not the right time

[@Timbo__Slice]

@@KaptainKuba yeah I reckon we'll get a bigger look in later games hopefully

[@codafett]

I was just disappointed frankly, don't spend 13 hours building something up if you're not going to do anything with it.

[@Timbo__Slice]

@@codafett yeah mate I get what you mean but I think they will expand on it in future games rather than just never revisit it ,they've built up the higher plain in too many different parts of the series from athena in the OG games and fallen god to just abandon it

[@codafett]

@@Timbo__Slice Mate I'm getting old. Waiting 4 years for a new game once you're 30 stops being fun, I'd prefer to see it now.

[@sohamshirgaokar861]

I think we are going to get a lot of insight on higher plane of existence in the upcoming games. I think that is going to be the main focus going ahead.

[@KaptainKuba]

Yeah Cory and Eric started that path with fallen god and this game

[@vincenzoaquino8299]

@@KaptainKuba Yes and its implied that the power or entity of that realm corrupted Athena and the thing that Odin see and heard in the Rift probably is the same thing. Athena is probably just a puppet of this power or entity. You can make a video where you can explain who will be the future villain ( Demiurge or something else) , based on information we know, because i think the mind behind Athena can be some other entity.

[@Unkn4wN_TM]

@@vincenzoaquino8299 My personal theory is that the athena in god of war 3 wasn't really Athena, but demiurge in the form of Athena. Kratos and Athena knew eachother well, so it would make sense demiurge tried to get what it wants by shapeshifting to her. Same way demiurge tried to get what it wants by appearing as infinite knowledge to someone who longs for infinite knowledge. It remained the best chance to get what it wants.

[@vincenzoaquino8299]

@@Unkn4wN_TM My theory is that Athena is a sort of herald of this entity, who order her to destroy o trapped the Hope, the only power who can fight this evil.

[@cooljool1]

@@bauloprete3905 because the game has plenty of flaws. poor story for one, the main event being a total dud and being rushed through etc...

[@YourDadFlaxx]

I love how this man includes Athena in every theory

[@isaac_3455]

Cuz she scheming

[@GreeKurdChannelMilan]

It's very interesting!

[@tortellium3750]

Because Athena is left unexplained...

[@c0okiesandmilk]

I feel like we'll see freyr again, maybe working with Athena, seen as how he sacrificed himself

[@YourDadFlaxx]

@@tortellium3750 And thats why i love him putting athena in a lot of his theories

[@dubmcz]

Kuba, another BANGER. However, the interesting detail is that killing Ymir, a Creator God, was what led to the Rift being created. Maybe the Blades of Chaos, a Primordial weapon, can expand or create a Rift of it's own in the future? Blades of Chaos with Surtr's power + some Spark of the World magic, sounds like a good recipe to go back and kick Athena's butt! That would be sick!

[@Theboredgod]

kuba making better theory videos than jon making if the serpent we revived was not jormungander theory videos hell naw (just joking)

[@AtelierGod]

Ymir isn’t a creator god he’s a primordial being.

[@omeramrani2274]

I think it maybe the only primordial weapon because the gods of the higer plane are most likely to be peaceful

[@dubmcz]

@@AtelierGod Ymir created the first realms, and he was the first god. He was created from Gennungegopp (the primordial norse substance), so he was a Primordial God/creator god. i think you're arguing different ways to pronounce tomato tbh XD

[@dubmcz]

@@omeramrani2274 we know too little to know for sure. All we know is Athena got there for a benevolent act but later turned a bit evil, so its probably not black and white.

[@chansesturm7103]

Something I've been wondering lately is whether the Greek and Norse creation stories (as well as those of other lands) happen at the same time or if they happened separately from one another. If I recall, it's revealed in God of War: Ascension that the Greek world was created by the Primordials killing each other in a war, while the Norse world was crafted from Ymir's corpse by Odin after killing him. The God of War Wiki claims that Ymir (in addition to the Norns, Surtr, and Sinmara) are also Primordial beings in the Nine Realms. Whether or not Ymir & Co. are Primordials similar to Ouranos or Oceanos of Greece is, I feel, inconsequential-my main concern is whether the creation of the Nine Realms and Greece happened simultaneously because I've felt that for whatever reason the Nine Realms feel somewhat _younger_ than Greece. Not young enough that Kratos was around before the Nine Realms existed, but young enough that the Titans and Olympians would ultimately be an older pantheon than the Aesir or Vanir. I feel that it would be a bit weird from a lore perspective if that were the case, but from a real-world perspective, it would make sense given that the Norse mythology we know is much younger than the Greek mythology that's been handed down to us by the likes of Homer, Hesiod, and others. Another thought I've had is whether the mask, being wooden rather than metal or some harder material has any significance, including the language written on the mask that Odin needs Atreus to translate. Maybe it's connected to an even more ancient pantheon of deities, such as the theoretical one worshipped by the Proto-Indo-Europeans or another super ancient people group. None of this probably makes sense, but I'm throwing it out there anyway.

[@MeisterSchwabbo]

The maya maybe?

[@thefiveo344]

Ymir is a primordial being no? So his death created the lands in the Norse. Primordial battle in Ascension was what made the Greece area I assume.

[@chansesturm7103]

@@thefiveo344 Yeah, I said that. What I'm wondering is if the Primordials' war and Ymir's death happened at the same time or at different times, affecting how old each part of the world really is.

[@thefiveo344]

@@chansesturm7103 I guess it happened either same or separate times until they’re gone and then after the whole wars the gods are the ones left.

[@thefiveo344]

@@chansesturm7103 Norse could be older. The whole setting in GoW 4 and Ragnarok everything looks old and village-ish. Asgard looks quite classic while Olympus looks all fancy, advanced, hi tech magic stuff compared to Norse. Even Norse magic looks very old-like.

[@xorngoh7303]

I think the main key point was that Ymir, the first being in Norse realm was murdered by Odin. Ymir being the first being of the Norse realms, likely had a deeper connection to the plane of Higher Existence. The crack in the realm was likely what remained of Ymir's connection to that plane. The mask and its fragments in different languages probably signified that the plane of Higher Existence is connected to all the different pantheons, along with Ymir who might have been the progenitor of not just the Norse pantheon but other Pantheons as well, probably known in other pantheons as a different name or entity.

[@greedgod5827]

Imagine if kratos saw the rift in detail and instantly connected the dots. He didnt see the rift properly or at all. I feel like that wouldve been enough evidence to get a good idea what it is

[@rhombo323]

He was standing right by it when Atreus snapped the mask. He and Odin were both talking to Atreus about using the mask the moment before he snapped the mask

[@greedgod5827]

@@rhombo323 kratos was more focused on his son at the moment and the dust from the ground above collapsing was still dust in the air so it's hard to see. That's why I said he didnt see it properly at the very least just a faint glow.

[@SpaghettiYOLOKingTTV]

​@Greed God are you saying he'd connect the color of the rift with how Athena looked to him at the fall of Olympus HUNDREDS of years prior? Even if he was able to recall how she appeared in his nightmare in GoW 4, I think there's simply too little information for him to make that connection. Something much more overt has to happen, more than likely whatever sends him to the next pantheon of gods. Whatever that is would most likely be sporting that same color and then the rule of three kicks in and he'll begin to make his connections. If he's somehow able to keep Mimir with him, which I think may be possible while he'll definitely be forced to separate from Freya whenever he's sent to the next plane of existence.

[@parkout95]

​@@rhombo323 that was a projection in atreus mind, remember the promise they made of hearing their voice in vad situations. Notice how when the camera moves and how kratos disappear after saying "I trust you son".

[@anthonyhernandez7799]

Personally, I like to believe that in the GOW mythos, on planet Earth there are rifts in between the different pantheons, and these invisible rifts originate from the higher plane of existence (which is where the demiurge is contained by the Monac). These rifts act as sort of mythological containers and separators. Each rift hold the unique geography, creation myths, spiritualities, magics and pantheons of each mythology. (This could also be why the rules of the Norse pantheon might not affect Kratos or Atreus). { Pleroma > higher plane > rift > physical universe (earth) } When people expand in the name of their gods, they also expand the rift (and therefore influence and territory) of their specific mythology. This is why wars are fought between cultures, because each pantheon is trying to gain more territory and worshipers over other pantheons (this would be the demiurge influencing the physical world). But most gods of these different pantheons are ignoring the possibility of peace, diplomacy and cultural exchange. This could allow all of them to grow simultaneously and achieve enlightenment. This is could be why the Monac is collecting worthy gods who show selflessness and are sending them to the higher plane. However, some gods in the higher plane fall to the influence of the demiurge. (because of their new found power) like Athena. The higher plane of existence acts as a further test to see if the chosen gods are worthy of entering pleroma when the time is right.

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

Maybe Athena was inviting Odin to find a way to ascend to the higher plane of existence? Maybe she was testing him but also she expects him to fail in the end despite all his efforts.

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

Monad*

[@anthonyhernandez7799]

@@chefboiardeeznutz9881 I think autocorrect changed it, but it is what it is.

[@Mwgsse]

Dream on

[@Pendragonthegreat]

I mean what possible answer were people expecting the tear to provide? I really like that they kept it a mystery and as said Kratos said: "beware shortcuts to knowledge"

[@rogaldorn2312]

Itd basically be everything about the entire universe

[@codafett]

Then we are different

[@anselmopat4985]

I think it’s truly better to keep it for later It fullfilled it’s rôle in this game by driving Odin and being a representation of Odin’s thirst for knowledge It can have another role later

[@dallaspowell6313]

That’s like not reading a book because “it’s a shortcut “

[@codafett]

@@dallaspowell6313 Bros just trying to sound deep lol

[@johndodo2062]

Faye pulled kratos into the light in the last game and showed him what atreus said right before they burned her. She was there. We were Faye the whole game and that's why kratos breaks the fourth wall and talk to the camera before baldur punches him over the house. Also, I think Odin was putting something in the food while he was cooking as Tyr. Brok calls it dirt soup, but mimir says there is something special about the food and he can't stop thinking about it. I think there was magic and it didn't work on brok because he was missing a soul piece

[@Outcastic]

well brok called it dirt soup as a reference to some optional dialogue where he's disgusted by the fact odin put vegetables in the soup

[@bernainmolina7481]

What do you mean we were faye the whole time in the 2018 game

[@HaiRune]

@@bernainmolina7481 He means the camera perspective is Faye watching over them

[@bernainmolina7481]

@@HaiRune ohhhhh

[@Delta_2209]

So, GOW 4 is a 2nd person game?

[@bdragon90]

I love that Freyr ascending to the higher existence is just mentioned as a passing note. I am just trying to imagine him interacting with the other ascended gods or trying to get high while there and it is just a mess that puts a smile on my face.

[@Kevink4240]

In an alternative realm, I'd love to see Odin or Loki putting the mask on and see what's inside that light. Just curiosity.... Cool video Kap!

[@peeturpain9379]

That would require actual work and development. SMS has become extremely lazy and self entited after the 2018 game and the rushed garbage that was ragnarok proved it. The lone last good studio also caving to making a quick buck.

[@pelkoshisha122]

@@peeturpain9379 Get out of the comments toxic clown go disrespect someone else's work...

[@UKGParadox]

@@peeturpain9379 just be saying anything

[@dirtydan9728]

@@UKGParadox honestly I agree w him. SMS played this game way too safe. Took no risks

[@azsa3705]

@@peeturpain9379 I’ll agree that GOW 2018 was more enjoyable but in no way does this mean SMS put in no actual work. Bad writing does not mean mean less work was put into the game. They worked on this game for 5 years, they could have taken an extra year to make that last third of the game feel less rushed but I thought the game as a whole was fantastic.

[@TurtleWaveZZZ]

Odin’s performance, as well as everyone’s performance in Ragnarök, was insanely good.

[@patd2331]

Idk if there is a connection but seeing that mask made me think of the movie the mask, and in the movie, the mask gave the wearer the ability to basically shape reality at will

[@dying_inside7973]

plus in the movie they say that the mask was owned by loki so…

[@shonenacademia7276]

I would love this because evil Athena in gow 3 seemed put of nowhere. If it was actually an evil entity in disguise as the wise Athena, I’d feel as if the story was more thought out

[@mavvynne444]

Athena is wise but Freya is wiser than her

[@aidenparker5955]

Athena is Corrupted.

[@Prhunnid]

Wow i didn’t even think of that

[@lunapixels]

Interesting theory! This would also mean the Jotnar are descendants of Monad which could explain them being able to have visions and them essentially being the originators of magic in the Norse realm…

[@balabushkabandit2663]

I feel that the mask will play a significant role in the future games and may also play a part in how the next game switches pantheon. I know that in 2018 kratos meeting athena was just in his head but i guess we all know that athena is still alive and maybe plotting something. We saw all the way back in god of war 3 the mural of athena who was all green and was the new queen of olympus, which means she is still alive somehwere. The mask could 100% be planted by her or be related to her, but i guess we just have to wait for the next game.

[@magnusdiridian]

Deep into that darkness peering, long Atreus stood there wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no god ever dared to dream before; But the Thor was broken, and the Odin gave no token, And the only word there spoken was the whispered word, “God of War?” This I whispered, and an echo murmured back the word, “To Egypt you must soar!”- Merely this and nothing more.

[@donovanfaust3227]

​@@magnusdiridianI don't know if I like this comment or hate it so here's a reply instead.

[@maximusmuriel1229]

This is the biggest GOW theory reach, and I absolutely love it. Keep up the the good work.

[@mandrewm0581]

The intro was awsome, I’ve loved watching this channel grow and seeing if these theories are true

[@noorlowtun1703]

I was very intrigue about the mystery behind the rift . I think we were like odin wanting to know what was inside 😂😂

[@furkanucarl3303]

same here

[@skarlet0735]

We won’t kill people for it

[@noorlowtun1703]

@@skarlet0735 yeah but you know the suspense 😂

[@ukiuki3834]

In 2018 Mimir says that Odin gauged his eye while tripping on mushrooms. Is him losing his eye in the rift a retcon or him lying to Atreus?

[@KaptainKuba]

That's the cool thing about Odin as a character. You really don't know when he's lying

[@VenomtheOne]

@@KaptainKuba that reeks of plot hole damage control lmao

[@zababy2760]

@@VenomtheOne Atreus asked Mimir about the version of the story that Odin told him, and Mimir told Atreus that Odin was lying.

[@VenomtheOne]

@@zababy2760 And what would Odin gain on laying about THAT, in particular? Both of those routes lead to the same reason: gain of knowledge.

[@ilvanasgobero8096]

@@VenomtheOne Odin Said he Heard truths he couldn't understand, what If Atreus looked in there and actually understood It? Odin would be in major disadventage, especially considering he was planning to betray him

[@lynusjaylatosa4757]

Fun fact: the writings on the mask consist of language such as Greek, Egyptian, and Japanese 😳😳😳

[@matejamicic3037]

maybe kratos would be able to translate the mask,also it refers to the greek,egyptian and japanese pantheons

[@misterpoopnose6547]

Could not have explained this better, Myself. Nice job & the background noise is hypnotic AF.

[@capitano9911]

I think the mystery of the mask and the rift was really intresting. Really wanted to know more about it

[@Legrandmachincalme]

Man you put in some real work into this video, from the research you had to do to editing the video. Awesome 👏🏽🙇🏽

[@KaptainKuba]

I appreciate the kind words ❤️

[@hootboi9092]

Thats an incredible theory and it got me interested in a new mythology, job well done captain

[@PR1ME98]

Epic theory! I remember reading about a little bit of the demiurge in some old mythology books my grandparents had. Crazy how everything is connected 😌

[@elviraweekes3906]

This reminded me of your old theories I love it.

[@Tropical_j_]

Thanks for delivering King! With Ragnarök being the last of the Norse saga, we’ll definitely be focusing on the higher plane of existence in the next game, Kratos realizing the main problem is the gods above the gods

[@majinthebalanced7252]

I've recently had an interest in Gnosticism and you provide a VERY good explanation, better than a lot of what I've seen. Great job taking such a complex idea and explaining it so well man, wow!

[@BrandenoidDestroyer]

Also isn't it strange how Asgards weakness was exactly where the rift appeared?🤔the same place that Ragnarok knew to stick his blade into?

[@grimreaper2301]

The rift and mask give me some serious lovecraftian vibes! I personally hope this leads to kratos fighting the lovecraftian pantheon! Seriously how awesome would it be to see kratos fighting Cthulhu or azatoth!

[@jamesgreen9712]

Dude, if this theory is actually true, that would mean that the Greek and Norse games were just a start for a much deeper story behind GOW, it also explains how all mythologies exist in one universe and could also explain why seemingly important characters like Thor, Freyr and Odin got such lame ends to their story, could be that we didn't see the last of them and some of them will join our forces while others will fight against us in the biggest avengers-endgame-like battle for all of reality between Kratos with his Norse friends and Demiurge with Zeus and Odin reincarnations on his side

[@parkout95]

No, we did see the last of them lol Odin got his soul destroyed like brok, meaning he ia gone for good

[@Rnjeazy]

Love the video, Kuba! Learnt a lotta new things. Time to go do some research

[@georgeheppenstall893]

I think the reason the Demiurge would want more power is because he only has control over the physical realms. But at the same time he lacks the higher forms of knowledge of his parents. So it would only make sense it would try to find pieces that give it power comparable to its creators. And if we go with the idea that he got the mask, then the Demiurge is now one step closer to its ultimate goal, probably giving it Omniscience. Great vid by the way!

[@00berserker]

I like this theory! Sure hopes it goes in this direction.

[@givemeverything]

I think Athena is behind the whole thing and I think she's actually using Kratos to bring down each pantheon or mythology and she teased Odin because she knows he craves knowledge and to know if there's another place after his fate in ragnorok

[@magnusdiridian]

Deep into that darkness peering, long Atreus stood there wondering, fearing, Doubting, dreaming dreams no god ever dared to dream before; But the Thor was broken, and the Odin gave no token, And the only word there spoken was the whispered word, “God of War?” This I whispered, and an echo murmured back the word, “To Egypt you must soar!”- Merely this and nothing more.

[@victorhugomalagongil4148]

We may not be able to see the full picture yet but man, as soon as I saw the rift I yelled “THE HIGHER PLAIN OF EXISTENCE” and was so happy thanks to your theories I just hope it doesn’t take us 20 more years to see the full in depth of this story to unfold 😅 but at the same time, I don’t want them to rush anything

[@DeepThinker193]

Odin saw Stanley Ipkiss on the other side of the rift.

[@silenthero2795]

I always have this in mind that whatever Mimir laced to make Odin high that made him gouge his eye out started all of this nonsense - just like Freyr accidentally found Alfheim's light while high and become a god among Dark and Light Elves alike.

[@seanduggan1345]

I'm curious about the strange creature with the unending container of alchohol that was mentioned in the Vanaheim Crater. I haven't seen anybody talking about it. I feel like it was a hint towards a Japanese/Shinto series of games next, because the strange creature sounds like it might be Danzaburou.

[@brannonscott5792]

They was talking about thor because he was the one drinking ungodly amounts there before faye showed up

[@toni1693]

They are speaking of hymir and his cauldron

[@theoolstorpe2756]

Love ur Theorys and vids. Man

[@muhammedalicevik1204]

It sounded so weird when Cory said he is not going to direct the Gow Ragnarok. what if the '' space game '' he is working on now is related to this topic? We know that Cory really loves Gow, why would he not direct the game he loves? His next project must be something bigger than Gow Ragnarok

[@markopujic660]

I think the mask was Odin's last ditch attempt. Think about it: Baldur wasn't supposed to die for at least a few hundred years. Odin was desperate to avert his destiny whatever it took. He was not prepared. His last option was pretty much to somehow get that mask and see the answers to his questions. Things are escalating too quickly and he cannot control it all anymore. Mask was all that could save him now.

[@LightningElixir]

that theory is sooooooo good!! like actually it makes a lot of sense

[@MarsinMaafi]

very nice explanation! love it!

[@georgeyannak1588]

I don’t know if you’ll ever see this but in Greek mythology Athena was the goddess of sophia (it mean wisdom)

[@idomeneasmegas7908]

Hello Kuba, the writings on the mask are Greek and ... Chinese!! In addition Monad derives from Monada which in Greek translates to Unit. As in the self as a unit! Hope this helps

[@erickli4329]

Im chinese and the writings in the mask is actually japanese though it has kanji (chinese characters that the japanese use) in it. It can also mean that china might also exist in gow universe.

[@erickli4329]

Also in chinese mythology we have the term 仙 (Xian), which means celestial beings, beings that has transcended beyond godhood which also fits the current state of athena

[@thegammelier]

This was a great video and a very fun theory! I never really understood Athena’s motives in the original trilogy, her actions flip flopped all over the place from game to game and while I don’t think this is where SMS is headed it’s still fun to think about!

[@MrJoker725]

This is actually incredible and i hope they do exactly this

[@robocrush123]

My Theory is this: Odin knew that the Rift led to the Higher Plane of Existance and was his chance of living forever. This is a long one. Ymir was a being from the higher plane of existance where Athena was sent to and what is mentioned in the Fallen God comic. The Higher plane of existance was accessible to Ymir and he was able to travel between the Norse Realms and the Higher plane of existance using the mask and the small rift was a large portal hidden away.When Odin killed Ymir the mask was broken up and scattered into the worlds that were already built by Ymir which were Niflheim, Muspelheim and what I believe to be the original Foundations of Asgard before Oden created the realm we see in the game, this is because the prior realms seem to be at the root of the world tree and Asgard is at the top, it may be possible that Asgard was where Ymir went to travel from. When Odin initially looks inside he can hear what it says as he has a bit of the mask but is unable to see it through the rift or go through it as he doesn't have the full mask which acts like a key. However he is unable to translate the text in order to locate the rest of the mask due to not understanding the language, which is where the Giants and Jotunheim comes in. I believe that because they were direct descendants of Ymir they are using magic and abilities directly tied to the higher plane. This is why Odin is so focused on the Giants secrets and why he needs Atreus to translate the mask. Once the final fight takes place next to the rift we see Odin is genuinely excited for once and is happy, the mask is assembled and his answers are so close, everything he's been working towards is coming ahead. I believe when he asks Atreus use it and look he genuinely means it. So when Atreus destroys the mask he yells in agony because the one thing in life he's been working for has been destroyed, he cuts all the act and is just mad. Odin never really expands on what he heard. He just says he believes it has all of the answers they are looking for. In reality I think Odin knew exactly what was beyond the rift, he knew the higher plane was there, he knew he could essentially live forever there and be somewhat Omnipotent. That's why he hordes knowledge, kills the giants as they kept it away and that's why he's obsessed with stopping Ragnarok, because he knows the one thing that can kill him can be avoided by the rift under his home. He lies to everyone because if he told anyone what he knows they'd either not believe him like Mimir or he thinks they would want it for themselves and stop him. Now why would he know about it? I believe Ymir told him about it and he killed Ymir in order to take his place there however was unable to without that certain power of Ymir. He was afriad to tell anyone else about it properly which is why he lies as he thinks they'd try and kill him and take it just like he did Ymir. His whole Godhood is him mimicking what he thinks the Higher Plan and Ymir did to the realms. He makes man, he makes them Valhalla, he makes his own pantheon because he essentially believes that the Higher Plane is that but on a grandious scale and he just wants to be apart of it. What do you guys think?

[@domleereacts7374]

Interesting take on it. But isn’t Odin already immortal? Or is Norse gods immortality a bit different from Greeks?

[@light4299]

This so ******* well thoutght. Just wow. If you came with this in your mind just like that👌. Claps

[@samwilsoncaptainamerica233]

How long did it take you to type this?

[@robocrush123]

@@domleereacts7374 Norse Gods aren't immortal, it is insinuated throughout the game that Njord died of old age rather than being killed. This is also the case with Odin's brothers. However it is stated that when Aesir gods die in battle they go to Valhalla, however Odin can't go there since he created it.

[@robocrush123]

@@light4299 Thank you!

[@xBOBOxFebreez]

I can imagine us thinking we wont ever see the higher plane, but then in what we think is the last game with kratos, he dies only to wake up there. And then athena says "we've been waiting for you" - cut to black, roll credits. Then we find out there's one last game

[@jcp1966]

That intro is so cool

[@tahmirrobinson9756]

one of the best therapy videos I’ve ever watched 🙏🔥

[@tahmirrobinson9756]

“Theory”

[@JXZX1]

This is a really fun and creative theory: it allows for each mythology's existence to fit neatly with each other (something so far GoW hasn't done a great job of showing, what with Greece and the North having completely different cosmic beginnings/primordials), explains why Athena shifted so dramatically, and gives the setting the opportunity to touch upon Christianity in a tactful way--because let's be honest, we all want to see how God of War might depict the western world's most influential religion. Who knows, maybe GoW was always just Shin Megami Tensei!

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

Did you know that Christianity is also a whole different pantheon altogether composed of many gods but was converted into monotheistic religion after their wars. The Christianity pantheon is composed of the following gods : El Elyon El Deah El Chuwl El Olam El Roi El Shaddai Elohim Attiyq Youm Asherah Yahweh Christ Baal

[@3adir_]

@@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx stop with the bullshit

[@xxx_jim_the_reaper_xxx]

@@3adir_ Say what?

[@actionvids35]

Would be aweomse and it would be nice that the Demiurge or who ever it ends up being was the one responsible for corrupting/manipulating Zeus and Odin behind the scenes so he can rule over the whole existence/pantheons. So Kratos/Atreus over the fallowing games travel to other realms to gather people and free the lands while slowly while the games slowly reveal the true puppet master behind these corrupt gods.

[@SaintSchadenfreude]

For most games I can have tons of theories and fan fiction but God Of War is the one series I really can't do anything like that so im always impressed by other's theories and enjoy them greatly

[@abelnocera3500]

This would actually be sick to see for gow 6. Even though everyone expects Kratos to go to Egypt Santa Monica have had a knack for subverting expectations.

[@HipHopEnthusiast911]

These theory’s are the best 🔥🔥🔥

[@hggatsb]

Definitely enjoyed this .

[@venpepe4734]

nice to have you back

[@mkcstealth7624]

I think it's going to be something touched more on in the future, like how Thor and Odin were constantly named dropped and Ragnarok constantly being hinted at in GoW 2018. It's setting up Atreus' journey to find the giants in other lands/mythologies and finding answers

[@ThousandDaggers]

I just want a theory video on why a god (Odin) has a receeding hairline

[@YourEmrgncyStash]

Im surprised no one's brought up the Mask movie with Jim Carrey. That wooden mask he has is considered Loki's mask

[@gerald8543]

I made posts about this two days after the game released. At first everyone called it stupid, or impossible. That it doesn't fit the timeline ect. It's nice to see ideas being explored.

[@michaellane1661]

Great theory brotjer!🤘🏽🤘🏽

[@memegame4562]

my theory is that it holds the truth to creation of the norse pantheon and creation of niflheim and musphulheim and how they came into existence and with this knowledge odin would become omnipotent and the a true god who can do anything he wills and maniplulate fate and creation.

[@ThatCrazyGuy39]

I actually really like this idea. I hope they go in this direction.

[@BoldRhythm047]

My theory about the future of GOW is that Atreus and Kratos split for now (obviously) and Atreus most likely head to the celtic lands (Ireland, maybe?) because there is a mention of creatures that once used to be giants aren't at the moment, but can transform to their large forms momentarily, known as Spriggans. Also the sighting of the kelpie, and the lady of the forge could support that. And maybe Kratos head to Japan? I dunno, because my gut says since egypt was in the comics, it's the place where the story might culminate lead to the higher plane of existence? Gotta dooo a loooooot more research on these topics, and see what comes up to be most likely!

[@mrxerxes7947]

It would be nice if kratos heads to the egyptian pantheon and has multiple games in there, while atreus heads to the lesser known pantheons as a means to explore but ends up having to deal with the gods there. I just have it in my head that lesser known pantheons have weaker gods because since they arent knows, that means that their influence never spread which means less worshipers. Less worshipers means less power. Each pantheon atreus visits would only have 1 game but most of the budget would be for kratos. The end of the series would have kratos join with Atreus and they would have good gods vs bad gods, just like Kuba said. Kratos has 2 games in the egyptian pantheon while atreus visits 2 pantheons. It'll take maybe 6 years to set up the big finale, then 6 years for the finale itself UNLESS santa monica gets a boost in resources and employees

[@serge263]

Well, Atreus and Kratos split so we can explore the other pantheons and then eventually come back together for one final one. I think that's what we'll get. Atreus will go to one pantheon, likely the celtic lands like you said, and Kratos will go to either Egypt or Japan. And the last one remaining, will be the one they come back together in.

[@danielsolomon63]

Ahaha i love the jab you throwed at the end towards Ragnarok pointing out again the disappointment it was story wise.

[@rektmoon538]

Man your theories are just incredible at this point they need to hire you as their writer

[@derp-7274]

I heard a theory that the mask was from the Mayans because the Mayans did have masks like that plus there have been hints of Kratos going to the Mayan pantheon so it would kinda fit

[@JoshSweetvale]

The Mask, as in, the glowing green mask from the movie and cartoon with Jim Carrey - reference the Mask as an artifact of Loki. Hence the shapeshifting. So that doesn't get us anywhere.

[@jakewoodhouse9817]

I have an alternate theory as to the GOW 3 Athena. She wasn't actually Athena, but the evils she contained taking her form as an imprint. So while in fallen god she is actually in the higher plane and thus god of war 3 Athena wasn't technically lying, the imprinted evils gradually gave away their hand more and more. Especially at the end, when the imprint decides she wants to go full dictator and lacks the true Domain of Wisdom to get her to shut up and go the subtle route.

[@ClarkKent-mr7zc]

A better segue into exploring the other pantheons would have been to have each piece of the Mask hidden one in Norse one in the Greek mythology which we'd have to travel back to and so on and so forth and then a final installment of the God of War series we go to the higher plane of existence

[@AstralLaVista]

I'd love to see freyr in the higher plain finally getting to be a muse

[@thebeef3639]

The words on the mask have writings from multiple different earth cultures from the time, including greece. It glows at the same color as athena I like to believe that athena made the mask, using garm to bring it to the 9 realms. Odin knew he would die and athena told him putting the mask on atreus would keep atreus from taking him out, killing kratos instead. This is what he meant when the rift spoke to him when he peaked inside. Only by changing fate did atreus avoid this fate , which odin was set on happening, this being what keeps kratos from being killed. Hense why he was determined to have atreus put on the mask for his "answers" which he heard as tyr, and even trylied convincing him as tyr to use the mask.

[@tangbein]

I too was thinking about Athena being behind the mask/rift. Mainly because the mask/rift had the same color palet as Athena and because you would expect her to have a bigger part in the story. If not then I think who ever puts on that mask will get a green face, yellow smoking and hat, and be able to create anything out of thin air.

[@A.Tag90]

The mask actually belongs to Jim Carrey.

[@LupusArcavius]

Once I finished the game and started thinking about the rift and Ymir and what the mask could be my mind also went to Gnosticism so I’m inclined to think you’re on the right track

[@eddiamoss4514]

Hey I completely agree. I always said if the colors match it’s from the same source and it’s mad crazy that we saw Zeus in hel and everyone trumped it up to be the tricks of hel but what if it wasn’t and he was his Spector from that higher plain just watching him

[@actionvids35]

Will be interesting to see how they expand upon this in future games. Its is higher place of existence or realm. Even if Odin got the knowledge of the rift its would still would be not enough

[@RONADEXP]

I would say the Demiurge lost again because the plot of these devices is to imperialism a order in which gods have heirarchy of these taboos and each time they are relinquished back to the unknown. I hope we get a God of War beyond the Pantheons into the Betwixt twilight omega of it all… so I can beat Zeus and Odin a second time cuz their boss fights was lackluster tbh

[@AtitudeAlfaOficial]

Another thing is that Garm open portals of the same color, and the masks guides Atreus tô Garm first, Garm, Athena and the mask are probably conected, you could do a vídeo explaining more about Garm, Fenhir Will be probably another way tô the higher plane of existence in the futute

[@doomboi4675]

Hey a Greek Gods vs Norse Gods Tournament Video would be Dope ( I know Olympus Wipes the Floor with Asgard ) But still it would be Fun.

[@permeus2nd]

So personally I think the rift actually leads to Us it’s somehow a link from the game world into the real world the whispers are all the people that have seen the game, it’s also why Odin couldn’t understand what he was been told, he literally couldn’t understand or accept that he was actually part of a game world.

[@ragnarlothbrok4827]

This theory is based on the tiny amounts of information the series gave us, so it’s highly unlikely to be correct. However I wish it was because this sounds amazing

[@gingerlime5077]

dude went into gnosticism right there...

[@toastergaming7783]

Odin if he put the mask on: "Ssssssmokin' "

[@jonathanvergara9741]

Tremendous theory and what you mention that Atreus could collapse by approaching the crack using the mask would have been epic!

[@justabrokezombie6252]

I personally always thought Atreus breaking the mask is a BAD move. Like, if I were one of the people who got sacrificed by Odin and saw this... I would be really pissed off as it means my death led to nothing in the end ! Like Odin said, "WHAT IS IT ALL FOR !? YOU CHOOSE TO BE *NOTHING* !?". Like seriously, people keep saying that it's good Atreus breaked the mask, I want to ask... WHAT MAKES Y'ALL MFS THINK THAT PUTTING THE MASK ON IS BAD !? Odin just wanted answers, and I TOO want answers. At least that means the people Odin sacrificed didn't die in vain !

[@codafett]

I really like the idea that everything comes back to Athena or whatever weird force of nature seems to be the afterlife for gods.

[@doodoowater8000]

Why are your Theories Sound so damn badass. If that's actually the answer we get at the end of the gow series then i think this would be personally be the best Story with the best plottwists in gaming for me. Hope your right.

[@ittesafyeasir3438]

I think the next game could be based around this rift once again. Mainly because of Sinmara and Sindri. Sinmara lost Surtr and Sindri lost Brok. Both of them would have been devastated. So it could be a chase of finding this rift, gaining all knowledge and bringing them back

[@IDKbruh420]

I knew atreus would break the mask, the writers clearly didn't know what to do with the rift and the mask

[@danielchettiar5670]

I'm so disappointed with Ragnarok. Left with more questions than ever. The biggest fail was handling Jormungandr's fight. Couldve been so much cooler, and used in a better way

[@IDKbruh420]

@@danielchettiar5670 yea, the game was still good but pretty disappointing overall. I don't know if the writers are the same as 2018 or not but they did a terrible job, even random gow fans were making theories that were 10 times cooler than what we got

[@crimson9790]

For me it's that Kratos once said that shortcut always comes with a heavy price. And I'm also willing to bet that even if Odin gains the mask, he will never stop seeking knowledge similar to lust.

[@Unknown-hu1vv]

I'm wondering how you are not in SMS writing team 😂 , but I think if any game took you as a writer to their game's story , this game will be great !

[@KaptainKuba]

awwww thank your kind words but Im not a professional writer lol not even an amateur 😂

[@tonysoldan]

2:17 The Greek part of the mask in from middle to left reads as following: “Επί της φλεγόμενης γής” (Epi tis phlegomenis gis) “οψιανού“ (opsianou) “σπινθήρα“ (spinthira) Translation: “Upon the burning land” “Obsidian” “Spark” (Just as Atreus read, but Atreus read “opsidiani spitha” instead of spinthira) Atreus’ version was correct. The writing is either wrong or in ancient grammar (cannot confirm if it is right or wrong). If anyone can find the textures for the mask and display it sideways where more Greek is written I could perhaps find out if there’s a hidden clue or if the mask writings are just decoration made by google translate.

[@mannyruth579]

Kuba man I've been itching for some of these vids

[@KaptainKuba]

Im back baby! I got a lot of theory videos for your guys

[@abdbay]

I uploaded a video theorizing the same exact thing 12 days ago, where I literally say the exact same things. What made you give in to this theory, Kaptain Kuba?

[@Cyrptic_3VIL_69]

I was thinking it sounded familiar 😮