Who is the Greatest Scorer in NBA History? - Barbershop talk (Episode 9)

[@Dom2K]

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[@THEGHOST-dd8ms]

The goat brian sacalabrine or antony Bennett

[@lightingwarr02]

Dom kobe

[@BoTbBeast]

Dom kobe not even a question about it

[@thegame5687]

kareem

[@nanaafari-gyan2694]

Yo I am a Steph Curry fan but Curry is Top 10 Scorer if KD didn't join the warriors Steph Curry would been 6th best scorer

[@WheatySweets]

Imagine not mentioning Kwame Brown when talking about greatest scorers....how quickly they forget.

[@TheNigligator]

Smush parker, darko milicic, Greg Oden, anthony bennet. So many forgotten legends

[@devinbooker2567]

@@TheNigligator i get the joke but oden wasnt a bust injuries ruined his career

[@zhongkai2652]

brian scalabrine is the real goat ,back then they called Jordan the white Scalabrine

[@Interstella-ni3vh]

Andre Roberson: AM I A JOKE TO YOU?

[@YaBoyCorey54]

KwAaAaAaAaAaAme Brown

[@johanjarvinen]

The efficiency argument is disingenuous since it's divorced from a league that is constantly changing. Kobe was above average efficient throughout his career up until his achilles injury at age 34, while also being one of the highest volume scorers in the league each year. Kobe always gets penalized for playing during arguably the most defensively orientated era ever in the NBA, with heavy defense, low pace, hand checking that even after it was taken off the books wasn't called until he was mostly out of the league, before modern 3pt spacing, after illegal defense was taken out and during a time where you could get physical with people. Drop Kobe into the modern game and he'd feast all day every day and his efficiency would skyrocket.

[@zacqueeentertainment7336]

That’s a great point

[@owethunala2632]

@Arash Awesomeness kobe isn't the greatest scorer of all time

[@owethunala2632]

Also kobe was always average in efficiency during his career

[@somregularguy]

@@owethunala2632 bro you didn’t even watch him play at all get out of here

[@owethunala2632]

@@somregularguy I've watched Jordan play...

[@drod1167]

Before Modern Era - Wilt the Stilt Modern Era - Goran Dragic

[@levontethompson8840]

D Rod116 stop drinking

[@levontethompson8840]

D Rod116 goran 😂😂

[@postmodernavare4198]

Goran is top 3 but i'd take reggie jackson

[@danielkim844]

D Rod116 how is it Goran? Like what? Goran?

[@blxvkmgn2457]

@@danielkim844 Goran Dragic a point guard from Slovenia

[@Porteraction]

Damn, no one is talking about Larry Bird. I'm not saying he is the best scorer of all time, but you could def make an argument for him. Could literally score from anywhere, could post up, score off offensive rebounds, create space of the fake passes (because he was such a great passer and had one of the best basketball I.Q's of all time). Literally his only weakness was he wasn't super athletic, but even that didn't hold him back. IMO if Larry had better athleticism, he would have been the greatest scorer of all time but I REPEAT, just my opinion.

[@salacommander2674]

Agreed. He could do literally anything he wanted to on the floor and trash talk the other team about it too. Bird was actually fairly athletic in his younger days as well, but still nothing compared to MJ or Kobe's athleticism.

[@sirm.a.r.s4640]

Because kobe kawhi LeBron Paul George tony Allen Giannis wasn't guarding him that's why he is low when compared to more talented athletic players. Its just evolution he was great for the 80s but will get obliterated in today's game if Vernon Maxwell gave him problems

[@MarcusExum97]

One of the reasons is because his Playoff Scoring and overall production nosedived. He has one of the greatest dropoffs between Regular Season and Playoff production amongst All Time Greats.

[@11bornrich]

Most talented scorer maybe but not the best/greatest scorer, those are two different things. The greatest scorer is more factual based on stats and that goes to either Jordan or LeBron, most talented however is more about how many ways you can score efficiently at a high level and depending on some stats and eye test it leaves the debate open for who wears that crown. It can be Jordan, LeBron, KD, Harden (although I feel like they both need to play a little longer), Kobe, Bird etc..

[@jamesburgess2k]

I may be the in wrong here, but I feel that being the most versatile scorer doesn't necessarily mean the better scorer. I think the most efficient scorer should be the best scorer (when shooting in volume of course). Was Shaq a liability at the line? Of course, but he still could put up 30 a night in his prime. Was LeBron weak shooting the 3? Of course, yet he rarely shot 3s and found other ways to score. These are all just examples, but just to set up my point. You really can't eliminate big men like Kareem or Wilt just because they can't shoot, when they never even attempted those shots in the first place. It's just not a fair critique of their scoring ability. I'll take a guy who's 70% under the basket when that's the only shot they take, than a guy who's 47% all over the court.

[@26Isoken]

You are exactly right. The ignorance spewed in this video was down right unbelievable.

[@saberplaytop]

Most versatile scorer does mean the better scorer. Just because a player has high scoring totals and overall is efficient does not mean he is most optimal in every posession and every scenario. Even if Shaq was by far more efficient than Kobe, who was the go-to option in the fourth quarter? Kobe. Because he is able to make plays and score from every spot on the court, because he isn't a liability if he gets hacked and even if there's no-calls, he can still manufacture a good look. Even if Kareem or Wilt were such great scorers, who was leading the offense in clutch situations? Magic and West. LeBron was weak at shooting the 3, but he did not RARELY shoot 3's, his FGA attempts from 3 are the same as Kobe's. In fact his shooting was so poor that successful NBA defensive gameplans against Lebron was to let him shoot, and these gameplans, many time DID work, especially in the Finals. So it makes little sense to me that a player's flaws, which were EXPLOITED, not only costed him his overall proficiency and effectiveness from the floor, but it would often times directly lead to a loss, such flaws that another player doesn't have. A guy who shoots 70% under the basket is not the same as a guy who shoots 47% all over the floor. #1, the guy who shoots 47% all over the floor, actually shoots anywhere from 55-65% in the paint. He simply has more attempts from outside the paint which lowers his overall FG%. This is the case for Kobe Bryant, his relatively "low" inefficiency is not because he was inefficient at anything, it was because he simply took more a lot more jumpers than probably every great player in NBA history. Only 9% of Kobe's attempts are in the paint (in comparison Lebron's is 36%), but he is not by any means inefficient in each respective range from the court than any other player, and in many cases MORE efficient while taking much harder shots.

[@guiga1605]

Kobe attempted 21% of his shots from 3 feet or less from the basket for his career, 9% is a number you pulled out of nowhere

[@NolanJohnson423]

I think the main issue is the term “the best scorer”, it’s way too vague and leaves way too much up for interpretation, is the best scorer the one who put up the highest numbers, the most efficient numbers, were they the most dominant, most versatile, best shooter, best moves, most moves, etc

[@ashantinyongo7632]

no matter how great a one dimensional player is still just a one dimensional player.

[@kingthlaroonth]

This is how I personally view it (MEANING IN MY OPINION) GREATEST SCORER (ppg+ efficiency) 1. Wilt (30, 54 percent) 2. Jordan (30, 49 percent) 3. LeBron (27, 50 percent) 3b. Durant (27, 49 percent) MOST TALENTED SCORER (mid-range, 3point, free throw, driving, post game, pull up, off the dribble, ball, efficiency, consistency and etc). 1. Kevin durant- kd is a all time great shooter can shoot from anywhere plus his length and height gives him a big advantage against his opponents he has a great pull up especially from 3 the only thing I would say he isn't just great at is his post game which even from there he doesn't have to do much but just shoot over you. 2. Kobe- I went back and forth on this one between Jordan and kobe it could honestly go either way but I went with kobe mostly because of the 3 pointer kobe like kd could shoot anywhere on the floor (kd is just 7 foot tall) kobe unlike kd had a great post game with great foot work and moves kobe really had no weakness has a scorer kobe just had incredible highs and some lows which is why I went with kd being number and being 7 foot tall. 3. Jordan- Jordan basically for the same reason as kobe he could hit the mid range anywhere on the court drive and got better at the 3 ball later on but kobe and kd were better 3 point shooters. BEST SCORER EVER (On this I factor everything that I listed above but intangibles or high on this one this is how I feel if I had to get a bucket for my life) 1. Jordan Nothing much to be said jordan has 10 scoring titles and although he isn't quite as gifted a scorer as durant Jordan scores more and is more efficent more crafty more moves as great as kd is we haven't seen him guarded against anyone like pippen with handchecking and the big men in the paint. 2. Kobe- Besides that one suns series were kobe was pouting I can't remember any other time were kobe didn't shoot or was afraid to shoot this is were I put kobe over kd as great as a scorer and talented a scores that kd is at times he is not aggressive enough I believe if he had kobe's mindset he would've never left okc and would've won titles there everyone always likes to blame westbrook but if you switch kobe and kd in that warriors series that they were up 3-1 I think kobe gets that serious home then gets a ring against the injured cavs. 3. Kd/Bird- kd is the most talented scorer I have ever seen he's efficient and has no real weakness the only thing that keeps from #2 and #1 is his mindset and that is were kobe and Jordan excelled. Bird- If I had one person to shoot a jumpshot to save my life it would probably be Larry Bird the trash talking and confidence of Bird comes second to know one Bird could shoot anywhere on the floor what hurts bird is his athleticism but Bird's heart and intangibles put him tied at third for best scorer ever for me.

[@stivstilianos980]

Jordan has a higher career ppg and more career total points than Wilt on better efficiency , if you take into account Wilt ' s terrible free throw shooting and bear in mind that stats in the 60s were higher due to a higher amount of posessions per game . It shouldn ' t really be a debate between these two , MJ was a more talented scorer and a better scorer statwise . I could see the argument for KD

[@lito5953]

This is it chief

[@redace6649]

stiv - Even Jordan doesn't compare to what Wilt did as a scorer. Wilt was a revolution to scoring in the NBA. Wilt was shooting fadeaways before Jordan and Dirk were even born. He was the first player ever to have a 30+ppg season, and he did it his first year in the league with 37.6ppg which still has never been surpassed by any player other than Wilt himself, including Jordan. Wilt's peak scoring seasons aren't even in the realm of possibility for other players to do. When Wilt averaged 50.4ppg, the 2nd leading scorer was Bellamy with 31.6ppg. That's an 18.8ppg difference. That's 68% greater scoring output than the 2nd best scorer in the league. In 1963 Wilt averaged 44.8ppg and Baylor was 2nd with 34ppg, which is 10.8ppg more than Baylor or 32% greater. There's never been that large of a discrepancy between the #1 and #2 scorer in the NBA. That can't be explained by there being more possessions in the 60s. For comparison, Jordan's best scoring season was 27% greater scoring output than the #2 scorer in the league. Wilt dominated scoring to a degree that nobody else ever has.

[@shanedrayton7662]

I totally agree

[@danieldaw1778]

@@redace6649 Honestly, to be, the most impressive thing about Wilt's 50ppg season is that he averaged 48.5 minutes per game playing in 80 games. Seriously, if you ok at his game log for that season, there's only one game where he didn't play the entire game, and he still played 40 minutes and scored 36 points!

[@45crisess]

Deandre Jordan don't even question it

[@swish1100]

Andre Drummond bro 🙄

[@munchkin8465]

michael kid gilchrist is the greatest! idiots

[@calvinluciano]

casuals don’t even understand this deandre jordan has the most efficient fg% yet he’s not in the conversation of scoring which explains why kobe is best scorer despite his efficiency

[@robertolebron2296]

zack keller wrong, it’s Andre Robertson

[@latestregistration]

It's obviously kwame brown

[@joshmills9960]

Bruh I don’t see how you haven’t grown like other KZbinrs have. Once again you nailed everything again. Keep doing you man. Don’t stop.

[@blooddemon7235]

He has another channel you know.

[@joshmills9960]

Been knowing I watched him when he was under 10k subs

[@salacommander2674]

It's just because there's a somewhat limited community of sports fans that actually care about logic more than narratives.

[@Theplaystands]

1. Kobe- No weakness to his game with the mentality to match. 2. jordan- only weakness was 3 point shooting, he had everything else. 3. Durant- all the talent in the world but doesn’t have the same mentality 4. Bird- Had the mentality and the skills minus the athleticism Side note, big men should get their own separate list cuz it’s not a fair comparison

[@hustheposum]

Kobe fans, they'll say anything to make Kobe look good.

[@shiningshores4808]

@Erik Lerström His effic isnt that bad

[@Theplaystands]

Erik Lerström stats without context are just numbers 🤷🏻‍♂️ the early and mid 00s were probably the worst spacing has ever been in nba history. Jordan didn’t have to deal with zone. And Durant doesn’t have to deal with the physicality of past eras. I’m sure if they played in the same era their percentages would be similar..

[@bbqblazekyleg7551]

You can't just take the centers out of this because Durant has proved that you can be 7ft tall and still play like a guard.

[@bballer2390]

Steven Espino 1. Jordan 2. KD 3. Kobe

[@BOnYTB]

KD has a much higher effective field goal %, was a much better jump shooter (infinitely better 3p shooter), played less minutes per game (especially where MJ played 40+ MPG 3 times). As for regular FG %, KD came in to the league much younger than MJ (over 2 years younger if I remember correctly) and his rookie year is where he had by far his worst FG%. Without that rookie year, his regular FG% would be 49.6%, which is 0.1% less than MJ's career FG%. Insanely impressive especially when you consider the 3s. KD is also about 7 feet tall, while MJ is 6"6. KD can shoot over people like MJ simply could not do especially against taller defenders, and the other advantages that come with being 7 feet tall. I also hate that people say the defense was SO much tougher back in MJs era than it is now when it comes to do with the ball handler, and they didn't call as many soft fouls etc. This is a general statement and not aimed at Dom btw, just saying it annoys me. Sure, the rules protect the ball handler more now, but defenders are simply more athletic, and SIGNIFICANTLY more skilled in todays game. MJ also got a ton of calls and got to the line plenty. One year he averaged almost 12 FTA per game. KD has only averaged 10+ once in his entire career. MJ averaged more FTA per game in his career than Durant has as well, so stop acting like stars didn't get calls back then especially MJ. That reminds me of one more thing which contributes to KD's case. He is a better free throw shooter than MJ as well. This adds to efficiency. MJ shot 83.5% from FT for his career, while KD has shot 88.2% which is quite significant. As for total points in MJs career, that stuff matters, but not as much as people like to try to make it. MJ was able to play a ton of minutes, played 82 games or damn close to it many seasons, and had nobody eating in to his scoring #s. KD has played with Westbrook 8 out of his 11 career seasons. and half of those Westbrook played all 82 games, and only one year did he play under 66 games. Westbrook routinely would run down the shot clock and pass it to KD with like 5 seconds left and KD had to create something out of thin air. MJ never played with someone like that in his career, and that no doubt ate in to KDs efficiency numbers. MJ had quite the opposite in Pippen who was an amazing playmaking point forward and was very unselfish. MJ also got a year off, and sure he was still close to the top of his game, but that year surely helped to rest his body and clear his head after grueling playoff runs, so it can be a pro and a con. Also one more thing. According to Basketball Reference, KD has scored 20,913 career points, while MJ has scored 32,292. Let's say KD plays 6 more years (so until hes 35, he could VERY well play more as his game doesn't rely much on athleticism at all), averages 73 games a year, and averages about 26 PPG. That's another 11,388 points, making his total 32,301 points, which would be higher than MJs total points scored. Even if he played 7 more years instead of 6, but only averaged 23.5PPG, that's still 11,515 points making his total 32,428 which is also passing MJs point total. We can't currently judge because KD's career is far from over, so I'll reserve judgement until then. It's funny because I'm actually the polar opposite of a KD stan or fan. I was a fan of his before he went to GSW, and while I still appreciate his greatness, I am not at ALL a fan of his because of that move. I am way more of a fan of MJ (from a bball standpoint) and LeBron (bball and he's just an incredible role model/person in general) than I am of KD. I just wanted to play devil's advocate here with the #s and this is coming from (like I said) someone who does not like KD at all so I'm about as unbiased as possible. I just think it's unfair to judge who's the better pure scorer until KD's career is over. I do believe that if he continues at this level or close to it for a few more years, I think KD would be a better pure scorer than MJ, and pretty much anyone who ever played the game up until that point. As an overall basketball player though, give me a bunch of people over KD. Give me MJ, LeBron, Magic...and I could sit here and name more but I won't. You get the point. This was just about PURE SCORING ABILITY. I doubt you'll read this Dom, as it's long as hell, but I was really bored at 3AM so decided to look in to this after watching your video and play devil's advocate here. My true opinion is that KD will end up being a better pure scorer than MJ at the end of his career though. Anyway, I'm a huge fan of your content and have been subbed to both of your channels for a long time. I hope you continue to put out extremely high quality content. I love these videos like barber shop talk where you just pick a subject and just talk about it non-scripted for a while. It's intriguing to hear your opinion on NBA topics as I consider you someone who knows a lot about the game. Best wishes, and keep it up.

[@saibotshawdow5090]

damn

[@brandoncalero6072]

Good analysis

[@Kenny-qk9nr]

Mj is 6’6 200 lbs and kd is a 7 footer did you really expect a 6’6 guard to have a higher fg% than a 7’0 scoring machine

[@wolfgangvanbach9739]

@@Kenny-qk9nr The nigga sounds bias as fuck.

[@slumpgod8162]

L

[@wyattcorbin1629]

Also, let’s look at Dirk Nowitzki’s scoring ability. Fadeaways Long twos Post moves Three-point shooting Roll man off pick (or pop)

[@calvinluciano]

kobe most 60pt games in the modern era & he shot 50% in all except his very last game kobe also scored 62 in 3 quarters 55pts in a half averaged 40pts for a whole month 4 times averaged 50pts for a week 2nd in most 3s in a single game behind steph career 81pts let’s be honest Kobe is the greatest scorer to ever play

[@whatever3563]

JerryGarciaTV hold up he was still efficient looking at efg% and ts% and now he’d shoot 47-48% taking the shot he takes with the spacing he’s not the greatest scorer ever but he was efficient

[@ranholic5027]

Lol... Let me tell u about stats... mj had the most 50pt game in the playoffs history with 8 and he had 60 pt performance against celtics... Kobe hmmm he had only 1... And i think playoffs is more important and memorable than regular season

[@maccregar3117]

Greatest pure scorer? Kobe Bean Bryant. 81 in the modern era. Cannot compare!!!

[@maccregar3117]

MJ is obviously the GOAT, but I gotta go with Kobe for pure scoring

[@dametime128]

Scored 81 on an old raptors team with suburban dads like Jalen Rose and Morris peterson. His 81 point game is overrated just like his career when he had the refs on his side for every finals.

[@apokolipslord6403]

Mac Cregar nah kd and Jordan better than kobe. Mj also not da goat

[@exiled5160]

your iq is 81 if you believe that

[@Forthreee]

Kobe wasn’t 7ft he’s the best scorer easy

[@Tonio5100]

This is why I BEEN saying for years that KD is the ONLY dude that could possibly beat Jordan in a game of 1 on 1 but people just laugh at that statement without actually looking into it

[@jasonjasonson9154]

no way lol. MJ would rip KD's hear out of his chest, stomp on it, then shove it down his throat. It would be very ugly. The mentally strongest player of all time vs the mentally weakest player of all time. Don't believe me? Check KD's twitter.

[@omerali580]

Jason Jasonson and KD is taller than him by half a foot, has a 7'6 wingspan and is a better shooter. KD could probably win against jordan.

[@Tonio5100]

@@jasonjasonson9154 KD may be mentally weak OFF THE COURT but ON THE COURT he has ZERO weaknesses... The same way you saying check his Twitter I can tell you to check the last 2 NBA Finals as proof that he's NOT mentally weak

[@jasonjasonson9154]

Check all 6 of Jordans finals wins. Also check that finals loss in OKC. Also check joining the team that set the all time record for wins in a season. Im a KD fan but he simply just doesn't measure up to Jordan in any way shape or form. It's apples to oranges.

[@jasonjasonson9154]

You could say the same about Dirk but no one is arguing he could beat Jordan.

[@fourtwenty1813]

KD career high- 54 Kobe career high in a half- 55 For me, that takes KD out of it

[@goat453]

Kobe’s best FG% ever in a season. 46%, that’s what takes Kobe out of it for me. KD has better numbers from everywhere and will finish with more points than Kobe. Sorry Kd is the best and Kobe’s not top 3

[@gloshow4890]

''Sorry KD is the best'' yo pump the breaks GSW 2015 fan hold on

[@goat453]

Lars Verstraete I’m a Celtics fan. KD is the best scorer of all time, easy to see, shoots better than anyone from everywhere who you’d think would be a better scorer. Anyone can take 60 shots and score 60. If you shoot like 38% then it’s nothing special. Quality > Quantity

[@BoTbBeast]

GOAT nahhh the spacing now days makes it easier for people to score that why people like kobe and ai shoot low because back then they didn’t shy as much 3 points no spacing which leads to it being harder to scoreee

[@fourtwenty1813]

@@Whis__ 2014

[@ΆγγελοςΓαβράς]

Umm let's see.. Kobe averaged 30+ points in a season three times KD did twice. Kobe had 6 60+ point games Durant has none, Kobe had 26 50+ point games Durant has 4, Kobe had 134 40+ point games Durant has 35. Kobe has way more scoring achievements like scoring 81 points, having 9 games in a row with 40+ points, having 4 games in a row with 50+ points, averaging 40+ points for a month twice, scoring 55 on a half(Durant's career-high on a game is 54), outscoring the Mavericks 62-60 in three quarters. Durant has done nothing quite as impressive. And to be fair, Kobe did all that on his first 11 seasons of his careers, the number of seasons KD is around. KD has 4 scoring titles while Kobe has 2, however KD won his two scoring titles in 2011 and 2012 averaging just 27.7 and 28 points respectively. Kobe had multiple scoring seasons like these two, like averaging 30 points in 2003, 28.5 points in 2001 or 28.3 points in 2008. However Kobe had to compete with elite scorers like Prime Iverson and prime McGrady. However KD has a career 49% field goal percentage compared to Kobe's 45% and that's all that matters right? 😂

[@michellem1750]

Facts😳

[@chicagorainydayz3611]

Kobe has the ball way more than kd, kd played with the most ball dominant pg in the league. Kd can score as much as he wants when he wants, and we seen it this year playoffs

[@blackmamba3060]

@@chicagorainydayz3611 Kobe never played in the floor-spacing NBA of right now. He shot inefficiently because that was a product of his time. 45 percent was NOT inefficient in the iso NBA of the mid 2000's.

[@devinotero1798]

Aggelos7 how do i copy this comment

[@george4281]

@@blackmamba3060 Yes it was lmao he shot inefficiently how do you explain kd scoring higher FG% than kobe in the same seasons he played or mj shooting higher then kobe, kobe is in the discussion but the real discussion is kd vs mj not kobe

[@alexzuniga6558]

easily kobe when you can score 81 pts in a game in the modern nba, score 40 pts at least 3+ games in a row its no debate kobe is the greatest scorer of all time plain and simple🔥🔥🔥

[@mrmongraalairn141]

not efficent

[@alexzuniga6558]

Maudelair Numa when shoot 47% throughout your carrer mainky taking jumpers i would say thats as effecient you can get, plus its the greatest scorer not who is the most effecient and kobe is def the greatest scorer

[@mrmongraalairn141]

yea but efficiently always counts and even then he's not as skilled as Jordan and Durant

[@mrmongraalairn141]

and most of what you say is more relevant to Jordan

[@mrmongraalairn141]

so is someone who average 33 points per game on 35% shooting and a bunch of 40 points games efficient for their career one of the best

[@abdullahiali223]

Mike did it in a hand checking era KD does it in a era where if you blow on someone it’s free throws

[@drehoops5749]

How ironic is it that your talking about free throws and you have a picture of harden on your profile

[@zachstolpa6521]

Solluminati's Hair doesnt change the fact of what he said, mj played in a more physical era where less ft’s were given than what kd is playing in.

[@airbene98]

YoungAli mj played in the illegal defense era

[@jeromebranchetti6002]

@@airbene98 exactly... No double team for MJ... Defender where probably better 1 on 1 but... We all know that Super Stars can't be stopped 1 on 1 so...

[@immaasshole4964]

@@zachstolpa6521 The defense in MJ era was horrible

[@jerelwedge88]

KD is the best offensive player ever. Literally a complete mis match. Can do everything. 7 ft player that plays like a guard and he scores effortlessly. I’m a Kobe fan but a lot of his best scoring comes from taking a lot of shots and taking a lot of free throws. This isn’t an argument

[@Hidden_Seeker_]

KD never had the mentality of Jordan or Kobe. If he had more dominant games then maybe, but he's a cupcake, and if I needed one person to take over a game and just score he would only be my third choice.

[@jerelwedge88]

Voltaire sounds like you are picking Someone to lead a team over who to go to for just buckets. KD is that guy.

[@Hidden_Seeker_]

J Crossover, nah. Even just to get buckets I would take Kobe or MJ. Kobe has had more points in one half than KD's career high for a game. KD is the most complete, versatile scorer, but Jordan and Kobe are better scorers

[@jerelwedge88]

Erik Lerström the question presented was “who is who is the best scorer?” Not who is the best player or who is the best at leading a team. KD will tell you himself he’s not a leader. Once again who is the best scorer? The guy is 7ft and can break your ankles or shoot over the top of anyone with easy. The guy can hit from 35 ft out no sweat. He’s the best at putting the ball in the hole period. I don’t care that he’s on the warriors. As a matter of fact I’m glad he is cuz now he’s even more unstoppable. Steph will go off with his 3rd quarter bombs from deep but then at the end of the game in the box score you see KD dropped the quietest 31 pts you will ever see.

[@jerelwedge88]

Voltaire I just watch their games. I don’t look at stats to decide this. Kobe and MJ jack up a ton of shots. Once again you want to bring up how many points Kobe scored in a half? How many of those points were free throws?

[@gunveersinghdhir6186]

The 80s was an extremely fast paced era where teams averaged 111 ppg so I don't know where this notion of that era having the best defense ever came up. Obviously players in that era had higher efficiency and more ppg as opposed to Kobe's era which is most defense oriented era EVER so therefore this notion that hand checking being removed made offense easier cause the stats point in a COMPLETELY different direction. The sane goes for a player like Lebron who played in an extremely slow placed era with much lower efficiency from like 03 to 2014 and still managed to shoot over 50 percent. Something which DEFINITELY should've been considered. Dom has really worked on his basketball knowledge NOW cause most of his old videos like this one are terribly misinformed.

[@blackmambafan7544]

Hell no Kobe 55 in a half 81 points in a game 9 straight games over 40 games 3rd on scoring list End of the debute

[@saberplaytop]

You forgot 4 straight 50 games 62 in 3 quarters 6 career 60 point games Set record for made 3's in a game at 12 Last player to average 35 ppg since Jordan

[@RainTheMamba]

secondpink until curry passed it

[@ODMUSH]

But he was less efficient, imo he's second just behind mj but he's obviously insane.

[@djs10261026]

Yes but he was never efficient

[@xXxBlaqJesusxX]

There was never a time kd could/had to put up number like that. Kd had russ the *most* ball dominate pg of the generation and then moved to gsw where there is an abundance of talent but still kept his numbers. There has never been a chance for him to have volume scoring like that

[@nanaafari-gyan2694]

MJ is the greatest scorer of all time

[@sunsetman2002]

GOAT🐐🐐🐐🐐🐐

[@sirm.a.r.s4640]

You spelled durant wrong.

[@caydenrgarrett]

Wilt

[@PSN-guarduppbruh]

kd

[@dguz7625]

1.Jordan 2.Kobe 3.KD

[@nbagodfather8757]

MJ KD Kobrick

[@jaredferguson2999]

@Erik Lerström Kobe is so much more talented thoooo. If your criteria is effeciency it should be should be Shaq. If it's both, I'd like to know how you value them

[@hiphophead4891]

facts

[@likemikegenerationx2]

KD is the most versatile scorer of all time, MJ is the greatest scorer of all time (in terms of just putting up points at an efficient rate).

[@salacommander2674]

Wade County Kobe is more versatile than KD. Footwork, post game, better on the fast break.

[@likemikegenerationx2]

@@salacommander2674 KD can literally do ALL those things. KD has a post game but he doesn't use it often because he's 7 feet tall and can shoot over anybody he pleases.

[@likemikegenerationx2]

@@salacommander2674 Ik you're a Kobe fan and you don't wanna believe it

[@salacommander2674]

Wade County Yes I'm a Kobe fan. And sure KD can do those things, but he can't do them nearly as well as Kobe. Kobe is elite at everything when it comes to scoring. Is he better than KD at everything? No. But KD isn't elite at everything. His footwork is average and he hardly ever posts up. If he's on the fast break most of the time he's receiving from an elite playmaker rather than running it to score himself. Kobe was elite at both running and receiving on the break.

[@likemikegenerationx2]

@@salacommander2674 At 7 feet tall be able to move and handle the ball the way he does AND create his shot, his footwork is definitely not average. KD shoots better both from mid range and from three than Kobe. KD's % from mid range is 45% while Kobe's is 43%. KD's % from 3 is 42% and Kobe's is 33%. They're is nothing to prove that Kobe is a better post scorer than KD, so its based off of opinion. And like I said before, you being Kobe fan, means you're already gonna side with Kobe. There's also nothing to prove who was better at running a fast break especially since that's not how either of them play

[@jdrobin1]

Kd is the best scorer to me. The guy is a matchup nightmare. The second is Kareem and the third is Mj..followed closely by Kobe and Lebron.

[@randigitymarcum8728]

jdrobin1 bruh Allen Iverson Larry Bird Shaq Malone Dirk are all better scorers than Lebron like undoubtedly

[@randigitymarcum8728]

Lmao the fact that you think that's a "Stop it" statement

[@hamzaelhousseiny9553]

Randigity Marcum Nope not dirk, bird or shaq, malone probably yes

[@kidtony7847]

Greatest scorer is Kobe Bryant don’t @ me

[@jeremiahtisdell4823]

Kid Tony And best shot chucker Don't @ me

[@alexzuniga6558]

Kid Tony faxx

[@alexzuniga6558]

Jeremiah Tisdell beat shot chucker/scorer finish the sentence next time

[@BoTbBeast]

Kid Tony facts

[@kidtony7847]

Jeremiah Tisdell you probably one of those people who like stats and numbers forget stats and numbers and efficiency the greatest scorer I ever SAW was Kobe hands down this man has done some of the impossible nobody today can score 50+ in CONSECUTIVE nights like Kobe I’ve even witnessed this man Kobe injured his shooting had and SCORE with the off hand the fact that he scored AT LEAST 40+ on EVERY SINGLE NBA FRANCHISE is proof enough for me

[@WrestlingHoops]

I love this series so much Thanks Dom !

[@swam2922]

Tracy McGrady y’all forget to mention Tracy man

[@cultmoss4482]

Bro, just wanna let you know that I love this series

[@albertodelrio2560]

You didn’t mention the fact that MJ played with illegal defense and that helped his efficiency

[@KleinpeterHank]

He also played in an era where there was a power forward and a center waiting at the rim the majority of the time.

[@davidakerele5745]

THANK YOU DOM FOR THIS VID👏🏾It isn’t all about stats, just like with who’s the best passer, some say Stockton because he had the most assists, but if you watch their games, you can see Magic Johnson is the more gifted passer, and is the best passer ever.

[@deshawndawson7606]

You forgot that mj broke is foot in his second season.

[@apimpnamedstepback1431]

To play devil's advocate on the efficiency point made by Dom, KD shoots way more 3s. His percentage only being .7% less than Jordan's is actually a really good thing.

[@shannonclayborne102]

Kobe👌👌

[@brandonmonroe9822]

Hands down my favorite KZbinr of ALL time, basketball or otherwise! Keep up the good work, my brotha 👌

[@abhimanyu_patil]

You didn't talk about how they added zone defense in the early 2000s. Zone defense makes scoring significantly harder, and Jordan didn't have to deal with that. Yes, he had to deal with hand checking and physicality, but there was no Zone defense. When he was on the Thunder, Opponents keyed in on Kevin Durant and designed systems to stop him. Jordan never had to deal with this. Jordan only had to deal with hard doubles, where you must leave your man, which are very simple to get out of. Despite this, KD still scored more efficiently. Kd has more moves, a better shot, taller, I'd even say craftier, so I'd have to give it to Durant. Also, I'm not saying he's really in the discussion, but Dirk deserves a shout for sure.

[@yanisbadou8402]

Jordan played in 2001-03 as the 1st option at 39 years old and still average 22ppg. I think a prime jordan would get his 30ppg on 50% shooting in any era

[@omerali580]

YuYu Jordan averages 30 no matter the era but the people that say Jordan averages 40 or 50 PPG in today's NBA are ridiculous.

[@Jac0b22]

Great video man, high quality

[@paulanyel2298]

Wilt Chamberlain greatest score of all time.

[@ultimatebulldog2824]

I know Kobe by percentages was inefficient and maybe better than KD and MJ in scoring, but man he hit the most difficult shots I had ever seen.

[@thegoatchris1347]

Kd and mj have higher efficiency because they had better teams🤦‍♂️ Kobe had to shoot every shot.

[@plzbanmydex2912]

TheGoatChris “Kobe had to shoot every shot” that is the most idiotic statement I have ever seen

[@itzravenbaxterngga3673]

@@plzbanmydex2912 lmfaoooooo fr

[@orangejuice8700]

PlzBanMyDEX In some years he really had to take most shots

[@Edoro976]

I get hyped when Dom posts more than Dom2k

[@OTGPain]

Greatest scorer in NBA history?? Kobe Bean Bryant

[@Thomson07]

kobe fan boys are ridiculous lmao, pretty much on the same level as lebron fans.

[@mauriceadel93]

@@Thomson07 im a Bron Stan and i have to agree to both lol

[@sirm.a.r.s4640]

You spelled durant wrong.

[@Lyd1rino]

Adding "Bean" to kobe's name doesn't increase his 44% FG. Just saying...

[@imnotgoodwithnames9847]

Itaruu I hate people like you who care way to much about fg percentage. In that case deandre Jordan is the best scorer because he shoots 60 percent and up. End of story

[@TheoBrownMusic7]

Spitting facts bro! Good work Dom!

[@vt248]

C'monnn, Michael Jordan!

[@themmvp2777]

1 Kobe 2 KD 3 Bird

[@BoTbBeast]

Ppl that say th are dumb the spacing now days makes it easier for people to score that why people like kobe and ai shoot low because back then they didn’t shy as much 3 points no spacing which leads to it being harder to scoreee

[@BoTbBeast]

BBESS bess are u dumb look at the 3pt shootings in Kobe’s prime compared to now some people need to get a brain

[@jessepropst1417]

Jordan played in a time where teams packed the paint and were far more physical on defense. Looking at basketball reference, teams didn’t take an average of more than ten threes per game until after Jordan came back from his first retirement and league average from his rookie year until coming back from his first retirement was between 29 and 33%. League average from when Kobe first became an all star until when he tore his Achilles was around 35% pretty much every year on about 16 attempts per game in that stretch. The league averages from 2000 until now are all around 35 or 36%. People who say Kobe played in the worst spaced era would be wrong. So please stop putting those comments cuz they aren’t true

[@jasonjasonson9154]

false.

[@salacommander2674]

Kobe did it with hand-checking AND help/zone defense. Case closed, the early 2000s were the toughest defensive era.

[@jasonjasonson9154]

Kobe did not do it with hand checking lol that's completely false.

[@JexxGaming]

You opened my eyes! Thank you!

[@daniyalsabri9992]

Damn dude I think it might be Kobe

[@daniyalsabri9992]

Or Jordan

[@Adam-tj8gi]

Or me

[@jaredferguson2999]

@Erik Lerström He did shoot 3s though, and never that well. I'd say that they're tied.

[@salacommander2674]

Erik Lerström Less than 2% TS% difference for their careers and Kobe did it with help/zone defenses allowed as well as hand-checking for a few years. Also Kobe had a larger repertoire of moves and won 6/6 of his 60 point games when MJ only won 2/5.

[@JayNowitzki]

KD is a 7 foot SG, can post up, can finish, can shoot mid,FT, and 3. Always close to 50/40/90 and is top 5 iso scorer ever. Had 4 scoring titles before turning 25 playing with one of the Biggest Ball dominant PGs ever lmao. KD is the one

[@JayNowitzki]

YTmxrgame B he plays like a Guard dick

[@Ahmedmmajid]

Erik Lerström he averaged 30 on 50% in 2012 finals and besides what does that have to do with him scoring we are not talking about winning we are talking purely scoring

[@dickolaskagegaming4976]

KD is the most versatile but MJ is the best scorer of all time.

[@FoxyChariot]

I respect the fact Dom brought up Kobe

[@seanstephenson5486]

My friends said they'd rather have LeBron take the last shot instead of Kobe like what? And they said that Kobe is overrated because he's a carbon copy of Jordan also my friend said Jordan would average *12* points per game because people in the 90's 'sucked'

[@jonahswayzer629]

Well he does have 5 playoff game winners vs Kobe's 1

[@guiga1605]

LeBron has more game winners and a higher efficiency in those situations, so...

[@saberplaytop]

No he doesn't. In the Playoffs, LeBron is 40/106 from the field in clutch situations 49/67 on free throws, true-shooting percentage of 49.8%. 4.2 assists per 36 and 4.2 turnovers per 36. In the Playoffs, Kobe is 40/96 from the field in clutch situations, 67/79 on free throws, TSS of 58%, 4.3 assists per 36 and 1.7 turnovers per 36. In the Finals, in clutch situations. LeBron is 4/23 from the field, 10/14 on FT, 3.7 assists and 3.7 TO per 36. TSS 31% In the Finals, in clutch situations, Kobe is 10/20 in clutch situations, 4/5 on FT, 7.5 assists and 1.5 TO per 36. TSS 56% In the Finals, in the last 5 minutes of the game where the margin is 5, Lebron is 17/62 from the field, 32% EFG, 43% TS, 4.26 assists and 3.1 TO per 36. In the Finals, in the last 5 minutes of the game where the margin si within 5, Kobe is 28/63 from the field, 46% EFG, 53% TSS, 3.6 assists and 1.08 TO per 36.

[@seanstephenson5486]

secondpink that proves my point thank u

[@salacommander2674]

secondpink Damn that says a lot. Where did you find those stats?

[@deonkincaid8461]

I didn't realize this was you other channel bro lol.....subscribed to this one also👍

[@Ssj5Vegito]

1. Jordan 2. Kobe 3. Durant

[@daelin9759]

A.I: above average 3 pointer, pull up midrange, catch and shoot midrange, moved like curry off ball but in the midrange, could get to the line as well as anybody, basically upgradable on the fastbreak, could take you left or right, one of the best finishers with both hands at the rim of all time, one of the best off the dribble shot makers ever. Missing a back to basket game for obvious reasons, inefficient at times due to circumstances

[@abdullahiali223]

Imagine if KD played in the 90s he would be Derrick Rose with injuries from the physicality

[@sirm.a.r.s4640]

Reggie miller survived and mugsy bogues nostalgia just making you blind. Kd fuck around and average 56 a game.

[@Jaccpot_9.7]

Kobe has more 60 point games than KD 40 point games. Y’all disrespect Kobe to much since he retired

[@kzsd1227]

Scalabrine.

[@ThenotoriousAmerican1]

KD MJ Kobe Wilt Kareem Pistol Pete Hakeem Iceman Melo These are names that get mention of all time!

[@damilkman1552]

I would say Melo or t-mac

[@sed1589]

L

[@itsDuhTruth]

Da Milkman L

[@bolt7047]

kevin durant 50 40 90 sesaon led the league multiple times and has so many moves and has so much range and one of the greatest mid range shooters ever plus great three point game

[@EpicShadow26]

I think the fact that KD has zero 60+ point games takes him completely out of the conversation. My pick would be Jordan because of the reasons you stated.

[@jasonjasonson9154]

damn I just learned something new.

[@xXxBlaqJesusxX]

LucasTheLudius There was never a time kd could/had to put up number like that. Kd had russ the *most* ball dominate pg of the generation and then moved to gsw where there is an abundance of talent but still kept his numbers. There has never been a chance for him to have volume scoring like that

[@jasonjasonson9154]

He's had chances. He just hasn't done it. He could, but it is interesting that he never has.

[@sirm.a.r.s4640]

Hahhahahhahahhahahahhahahahah I'm sorry this is stupid.

[@Stinkmeaner-_-]

@@sirm.a.r.s4640 That's not stupid its straight facts B.

[@matthiasezanno9832]

I'd go with Dirk Nowitzki. Efficiency from everywhere on the floor. FT / 3PTS / Mid-range / Close to the basket / Post Moves / Footwork. He can space the floor and consistently attract double teams. 30 000 points on a crazy true shooting percentage.

[@X02Overdose]

I can’t wait for some 13 year old to bring up LeBron

[@jasonjasonson9154]

26 year old. LBJ isn't in the same class as Jordan but deserves a mention. He averages same PPG as KD for his career at a higher FG%.

[@docallentv]

That's tough, I can't say. All of them are great but have some type of flaw. Kobe got hotter than all of them but Jordan was more consistent and KD had more range. Three beasts.

[@pungoolie]

This is terrible, how can you say kobe is the third best scorer and say efficiency, like goddamn he was pretty dang efficient especially on the shots he was taking, fade away, 4 on 1, any layup and i mean any layup, fadeaways, the best footwork ever, no one got hotter than kobe, 63 in 3 quarters, 81 in a game, 60 in his last game, was an extremely underrated passer, scoring streaks that were ridiculous, clutchest player of all time, he hit buzer beaters and he made those shots when a team was going on a 6-0 run too keep your team in it, the best difficult shot maker ever. This is a real shame, i admit kobe is 7 all time on the all time list but scoring is kobe without a question for me, how can kd be a better scorer when his highest ever is like 53, kobe scored 55 in a half. All you had too do was watch kobe to relize how insane this man was. I only watched his last 3 seasons and i look at all these players highlights and the best scorer is easily kobe. Cmon Dom2k disrespect:(

[@salacommander2674]

PUNGOOLIE 888 Why is Kobe 7? I'm admittedly a huge Kobe fan but I don't really see why he should be below 6 other guys.

[@DFlowetry]

SalaCommander26 agree. I got kobe third all-time

[@sz1233]

PUNGOOLIE 888 It’s simple, Kevin Durant has higher averages while taking less shots, Durant is more efficient than Kobe from the mid range, the three and the free throw line and the stats back all of this up.

[@NateMcCoy1194]

What nobody, and I mean nobody, talks about is playing against a Zone Defense. Jordan I've always said is the best one on one player that ever lived because that's all we saw. Him beating the hell out of whoever guarded him. After 2000, when they allowed Zone Defense removing the illegal defense rule, Kobe put up the numbers he did against that kind of D. Yea there was no hand checking and all that I get it but playing a Zone defense is tough for players who are primary scorers. Jordan never had to deal with that in his time with the Bulls. And as far as the scoring titles, exactly who were the primary scorers of the 90s? Like who were the best ones really. Jordan, Robinson, Shaq, Drexler maybe. Jordan always won that title with ease. KD and Kobe battled some great scorers for those scoring titles. Allen Iverson, Tracy McGrady, Carmelo Anthony, Harden, Westbrook, I mean these guys are crazy good scorers. Jordan didn't really have those kinds of scoring title competition.

[@salacommander2674]

Nate McCoy Not to mention Kobe dealt with hand-checking as well

[@NateMcCoy1194]

@@salacommander2674 I'm his early career yea. Even when the rule change happened he went against guys like Tony Allen, Bruce Bowen, Ron Artest, a lot of great ones

[@coolhands4444]

Hawks melo

[@capocliff9693]

I understand Allen Iverson was inefficient but a career avg of 26 ppg is insane. Far as pure scoring goes he's gotta get a mention.

[@zakirparker111]

Kevin Durant first Kobe second

[@bolt7047]

agreed

[@mypenisisincrediblytinybut6448]

Did Michael Jordan die

[@bolt7047]

Brian Scalabrine he couldn't shot threes as good at them he shot 20 percent from three some sesaons kevin and kobe both have had either good or decent sesaons from three

[@mypenisisincrediblytinybut6448]

Kings 16 name 5 elite 3 pt shooters from his time. You can’t. That’s because 3 point shooting wasn’t that important in his time and almost every superstar couldn’t shoot threes. Mike was better at every aspect of scoring than kd. Lmao ur a kings fan stfu

[@bolt7047]

Brian Scalabrine reggie miller dell curry steve kerr kenny smith and john starks were all great 3pt shooters from back then

[@Ichifate]

Kobe for me

[@SvampeGuttMusic]

*moves away kareem and wilt because he don't look at stats* *proceeds to look at stats*

[@sirz005]

Crazy to think about

[@jpelite2110]

Dude I fucking love your intro

[@JaeBee1718]

The times were different back when Kobe played. All the top scorers during that time had "low shooting percentage". If Kobe, Iverson, T-Mac, Pierce etc played during today's times in which the floor was spread so it was less help in the paint they would all average insane numbers. Imagine if Kobe, T-Mac, Iverson etc played in the no zone defense like Jordan, where they can play Iso ball. You forgot to put the times in context. Kobe is the greatest all around scorer of ALL TIME. 3 pointer ( Kobe use to have the nba record for most 3's in a game ). Mid range Above the rim Free throws Circus shots Fade away Pull up Off the dribble 1 v 1 Streaks Career high Toughness to play through injury There was NOTHING Kobe couldn't so offensively. Greatest scorer in NBA history.

[@Aceboogie_13]

I still remember that 2014 game in Miami kd went off

[@tashrif46]

the entire 1987-88 where Michael Jordan averaged 35.1 PPG on 54% shooting and also had over 200 steals and 100 blocks and won MVP and DPOY , thats how great he could be individually and remember if you take the Wizards years off, he had career FG% of 50.5% and that too attempting more shots

[@TheBoywonder25]

T-Mac should be a honorable mention 13 points in 35 seconds

[@MrEebola]

Kobe Bean Bryant!

[@copaseticarts9067]

man ppl never talk about how efficiency is based off shot selection !

[@danimalman3]

MJ being in the league for 13 seasons and scoring that much in his career with solid efficiency convinces me.

[@envy1372]

People that only be on the main Channel are missing out son

[@abstractual9137]

Look forward to these uploads

[@MotoTweak]

The intro is still dope af

[@vpizzuti96]

Fire intro brotha

[@roysalvador2126]

In order. Michael Jordan Bernard King Kobe Bryant Shaq Wilt Kareem Iverson Durant Lebron Ice man West Mcgrady This takes into consideration era, skill, efficiency, natural gifts, weaknesses, dominance, injuries and locations of were the shots came.

[@olatunjiolowere2334]

The main problem with this is, you based it off fg% you have to base it off of efg % which takes account of 3point shots.

[@jasonjasonson9154]

KD shouldn't even be in the conversation, and here is why... KILLER INSTINCT. He does not and has never possessed it. Jordan did. Jordans ability to rip out his opponents heart is what made his meticulous scoring so effective. Defenders felt helpless against Jordan, very different from KD.

[@danielharbaugh4429]

Jason Jasonson KD doesn’t have a killer instinct??? Please tell me who has hit the biggest shot the past 2 finals. LeBron felt so helpless. He wouldn’t fight over the screen. KD does have a killer instinct. But it not on the level of Jordan tho. Saying KD doesn’t have a killer instinct makes you sound like a MJ fanboy.

[@jasonjasonson9154]

A person with a killer instinct wouldn't leave his team to join the team that beat him the year before and set an all time record for wins. Sorry. KD IS clutch. For sure. But he doesn't have the killer instinct.

[@jeromecovington8919]

You should stream these Barbershop talk videos sometimes so we can interact. Great video btw 💯

[@qwikscopez6619]

i think it should be how much you can get in the basket and how efficiently you can do it

[@kb2602]

Only thing I take away from kd is that you can get aggressive with him and he will disappear for stretches and games at a time, look at last years rockets series, mj and kobe you couldn't do that to them

[@Lyd1rino]

Erik Lerström in 2012 he averaged 30 ppg on 55% FG. But harden and westbrook choked (especially harden). That's not his fault. And his love to the warriors affects his legacy not his scoring.

[@Lyd1rino]

kb magik Yeah kobe wouldn't give that to them. That's why he shoots 44%

[@niilovaananen3215]

One thing about the handchecking being way harder to score on but back then you couldnt really double team still probably quite a bit harder to score though

[@Madvillainy48]

The greatest scorer is such a broad title. I mean Wilt put up 50 points a game, but can't hit anything past 8 feet. Steph Curry is the greatest 3 point shooter ever, he's an all time great ball handler, good mid game, and is one of the best finishing pg's in the league. KD can do everything at an all time level besides playmake on the offensive end. MJ is MJ and will score no matter what. And if we're talking about MJ, what about prime offensive LeBron? He's not going to miss inside, if he does he'll get the rebound right back and score, he's an all time great playmaker so the floor spaces out for him, and he can also shoot 3's when we're talking about 2018 LeBron.

[@RealMichaelJJordan]

Kobe is still always gonna beat me in scoring...

[@omgpuppet]

*Says number don't tell the whole story, then immediately removes a player from contention based on one stat.*

[@mypenisisincrediblytinybut6448]

I’m sorry but if you say anybody but Michael Jordan you really don’t know basketball

[@z4ng3tsu1ch1g0]

MJs ppg averages in the 80s were slightly inflated because 80s basketball was probably the era of the fastest pace ever ran, even faster than today. If you look at teams back then a lot of them were averaging over 120 ppg and some of the highest scoring games in NBA history were played in the 80s. This could have been caused by the rise of the showtime era Lakers where teams may have tried to emulate their fast-paced style of ball. The defenses may have been more physical back then but they're certainly not 'better' per se.

[@Mast3rMind]

KD may actually be today's Kevin McHale. McHale would have several opportunities to destroy teams with his scoring but he never had it in him to put shoes on the neck of the opponent like Bird.

[@PSN-guarduppbruh]

tripping LMAO, kd and kevin mchale is like 80 20. mchale was good for the celtics, a top 25 favorite player ever but compare him to kd??

[@philpant29]

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