Who is the "Us" in Genesis

[@LisaSkantz-rs6dd]

A suggestion about the “us” and something I had never thought of before until recently: God spoke all things into existence - God said Let there be light…etc But not Man! Chapter 2 of Genesis says he formed man out of the dust of the ground. A very hands on thing for God to do and He breathed into his nostrils. God was now on the earth. How would He travel to earth? Obviously with His power could He not just snap and be in the place He wanted to be?perhaps. But we know from scripture Psa 18:9-10 and Psa 99:1 and you all also mentioned God dwells between the cherubim. The cherubim - if you read Ezk 1 and 10 tell us more about it. With angel like beings and wheels. The cherubim was a vehicle! A mode of transporting the throne of God! It also says that the cherubim had the likeness of man( Howbeit strange with some animal characteristics as well) The same word likeness that is used about creating Adam. I’m wondering and I can’t be dogmatic about this but what if God is saying - Let’s go and make man in our image and with that the wheels start turning. Another time in scripture is at the Tower of Babel when God says Let’s go down and confound their language. Interesting that it seems that both times God seems to be on the move for a purpose with man. A side note here is that it’s the cherubim that guard the way to the Tree of Life. A coincidence? I don’t think so! Thank you for the videos you are creating! I’m enjoying them! God bless!😊

[@pierschoenpandiangan2022]

‼️First‼️ of all we have to know❓WHO SPOKE TO MOSES AT THE BURNING BUSH? 1⃣✔️THE ANGEL OF THE LORD ✔️or 2⃣GOD : I AM THAT I AM3️⃣👉THE LORD GOD OF YOUR FATHERS,👈 THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB, Exodus 3:2, 14-15 👉1⃣ THERE THE ANGEL OF THE LORD👈 appeared to him👉🔥IN A BLAZING FIRE🔥 FROM WITHIN A BUSH. Moses saw the bush ablaze with fire, but it was not consumed. 14 And👉2⃣ GOD👈 said unto Moses, 👉I AM THAT I AM: 👈and👉 he said👈, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel,👉 I AM👈 hath sent👉 ME👈 UNTO YOU. 15 And God said moreover unto Moses, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, 👉3️⃣ THE LORD GOD OF YOUR FATHERS,👈 THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB, hath sent me unto you: this is my name for ever, and this is my memorial unto all generations. ‼️FROM EXODUS 3:2, 14-15 WE KNOW WHO ACTUALLY SPOKE TO MOSES, IT WAS 1⃣✅THE ANGEL OF THE LORD✅ ❌not❌ 2⃣❌ GOD : I AM THAT I AM❌ 3️⃣❌THE LORD GOD OF YOUR FATHERS,👈 THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB❌ Exodus 3:2 THERE THE ANGEL OF THE LORD/according to Acts 7:35....✅OF THE ANGEL✅ WHICH APPEARED TO HIM IN THE BUSH. And in the mount sina Acts 7:38 (KJV) THIS IS HE, ...... WITH✅ THE ANGEL✅ WHICH SPAKE TO HIM IN THE MOUNT SINA Acts 7:35 (KJV) This Moses whom they refused, saying, Who made thee a ruler and a judge? ▶️THE SAME DID GOD◀️ send to be a ruler and a deliverer by the hand 🔥 ✅▶️ OF THE ANGEL WHICH◀️✅ APPEARED TO HIM IN THE BUSH🔥. Acts 7:38 (KJV) THIS IS HE, that was in the church in the wilderness ✅▶️WITH THE ANGEL WHICH◀️✅ SPAKE TO HIM IN THE MOUNT SINA, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us: ❓Who Was The Angel Of God who spoke to Moses in the bush? Exodus 23:20-23 (KJV) 20 Behold, ‼️I ‼️SEND ✅AN ANGEL✅ before thee, to keep thee in the way, and to bring thee into the place which I have prepared. 21 ‼️BEWARE OF HIM, AND OBEY HIS VOICE,‼️ provoke him not;‼️FOR HE WILL NOT PARDON‼️YOUR TRANSGRESSIONS: ✅FOR MY NAME IS IN HIM✅. Isaiah 63:9 In all their distress, He too was afflicted, and ✅THE ANGEL OF HIS PRESENCE✅SAVED THEM. In His love and compassion He redeemed them; He lifted them up and carried them all the days of old. Exodus 33:14 And the LORD answered, "✅MY PRESENCE✅ will go with you, and I will give you rest." Exodus 33:15 "If✅ YOUR PRESENCE✅ does not go with us," Moses replied, "do not lead us up from here ❓So, Who was the angel of God who spoke to Moses in the bush? Isaiah 63:9 ...✅THE ANGEL OF HIS PRESENCE✅ Exodus 23:21 ✅FOR MY NAME IS IN HIM✅. Acts 7:35 ....▶️THE SAME DID GOD◀️ send to be a ruler and a deliverer by the hand 🔥 ✅▶️ OF THE ANGEL WHICH◀️✅ APPEARED TO HIM IN THE BUSH🔥. ❓why does THE ANGEL OF GOD ▶️‼️USE ‼️◀️the words GOD : I AM THAT I AM and THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB NAME IS IN HIM?? because the Angel of God speaks in the name of GOD : I AM THAT I AM dan THE GOD OF ABRAHAM, THE GOD OF ISAAC, AND THE GOD OF JACOB is in Him Exodus 23:21 ✅FOR MY NAME IS IN HIM ✅ ⁉️Then who is the angel of God sent by GOD : I AM THAT I AM? John 17:3 (KJV) And this is life eternal, that they might know ✅THEE THE ONLY TRUE GOD✅, and JESUS CHRIST, WHOM ✅THOU HAST SENT ✅(ἀπέστειλας apesteilas) John 17:5 And now,✅ O FATHER, GLORIFY THOU ME ✅with thine own self ✅WITH THE GLORY WHICH I HAD ✅WITH THEE before the world was. John 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may BEHOLD ✅MY GLORY, WHICH THOU HAST GIVEN ME✅: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world. 1 John 4:9 GRK: τὸν μονογενῆ ἀπέσταλκεν ὁ θεὸς NAS: in us, that God has sent His only begotten KJV: that God sent his 1 John 4:14 GRK: ὁ πατὴρ ἀπέσταλκεν τὸν υἱὸν KJV: the Father sent the Son ⁉️what is the.....✅MY GLORY, WHICH THOU HAST GIVEN ME✅ .....given to JESUS or THE ANGEL OF GOD? Exodus 23:21 ✅FOR MY NAME IS IN HIM ✅ John 5:43 ✅I AM COME IN MY FATHER'S NAME, ✅and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. ...And✅ THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH✅, and dwelt among us... John 1:1-3, 14 (KJV) 1 IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, and ✅THE WORD WAS WITH GOD✅, and the ✅Word was God.✅ 2 THE SAME WAS in the beginning WITH GOD. 3 ✅ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM;✅ and without him was not any thing made that was made. 14 And ✅THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH✅, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Psalms 147:15 ✅HE SENDETH FORTH HIS✅COMMANDMENT upon earth: ✅HIS WORD✅ RUNNETH VERY SWIFTLY. ....✅THE WORD✅ WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us.... John 5:43 ✅I AM COME IN MY FATHER'S NAME✅, and ye receive me not: if another shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. John 17:6 ✅I HAVE MANIFESTED THY NAME✅ unto the men ✅WHICH THOU GAVEST ME ✅out of the world: thine they were, and thou gavest them me; and they have kept thy word. John 17:11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, KEEP THROUGH ✅THINE OWN NAME THOSE WHOM THOU HAST GIVEN ME,✅ that they may be one, as we are. John 17:12 While I was with them in the world,✅ I KEPT THEM IN THY NAME: ✅those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled. John 17:26 And✅ ‼️I HAVE DECLARED‼️ ✅unto them ✅THY NAME,✅ and will declare it: that the love wherewith thou hast loved me may be in them, and I in them. ‼️Conclusion‼️ It was Christ who from the bush on Mount Horeb spoke to Moses saying, “I AM THAT I AM: Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you.” This was the pledge of Israel's deliverance. So when He came “in the likeness of men,” He declared Himself the I AM. The Child of Bethlehem, the meek and lowly Saviour, is God “manifest in the flesh.” 1 Timothy 3:16 And to us He says:‼️ “I AM the good shepherd.”‼️ “I AM the living bread.” ‼️“I AM the way, the truth, and the life.”‼️ ... I AM the assurance of every promise.‼️ I AM; be not afraid. ‼️“God with us” is the surety of our deliverance from sin.‼️

[@LaurelBaum-x6x]

You got into it!! Good work.

[@YouTubeMaster1611]

All the symbols in your post made it unreadable.

[@jdaze1]

He was an elohim just like we are, not THE Elohim. "YE are elohim and are ALL SONS of the MOST HIGH" "To WHOMEVER overcomes he will inherit ALL THINGS, I will be his Elohim and he will be MY SON". Revelation 21:7. The Son of God has never been just one person as defined thruout the OT. JC is our brother elohim not our God Elohim. Lost in translation has led to 2k years of deception.

[@JhonC214]

Has anyone read Zachariah 6:13, Revelation 1:1,2 John 1:1, 1:51 John 15:1 John 16:27 John 17:3 1Corinthians 8:5,6 there is so much evidence in scripture. Has any one read the book “The story of Redemption” man! Give it a shot. It is amazing.

[@travisrose7164]

John 17:5 And now, Father, glorify me in your presence with the glory I had with you before the world began. Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. Looks like Jesus was there before the beginning.

[@21stOneGod]

Thanks for watching! John 17:5 is being used out of context here. For more information and teaching on this verse please watch the videos linked below from Pastor J. Dan Gill and Sir Anthony Buzzard! Part 1: kzbin.info/www/bejne/l5itipWpmriXh6M Part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oauUc4ljhptqhac

[@travisrose7164]

@@21stOneGod it's not. Here's other scriptures that you have to deny in order to believe Jesus isn't God. Hebrews 1:2 but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe. 1 Colossians 15-17 The Son is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For in him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things have been created through him and for him. He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. John 1:1-3 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. I could go on, but I think this would be a fruitless endeavor. Jesus is God. The Father is God. The Holy Spirit is God. They are a perfect trinity.

[@21stOneGod]

There are already many videos on our channel discussing each of these in depth, but we are excited to say that we will be tackling each of these in our series as well! Many of the misunderstandings come from taking these scriptures out of context, allowing tradition to dictate how these should be interpreted, and/or looking at scripture with a preconceived trinitarian ideology. Again, thanks for watching and we hope to see you back!

[@jamiesimms7084]

If Jesus was God he wouldn't have to be glorified. Going by that scripture says,it is obvious that God would be talking to angels at the beginning of creation if it was angels he was speaking to. So just by being around at the beginning of the material world/universe doesn't actually prove anything in relation to the trinity. The implication being that God had created them before the world. The lord's prayer tells you Jesus's point of view of who we are to pray to and whose kingdom we are praying for and whose will must be done and whose name is to be Holy.

[@travisrose7164]

@@jamiesimms7084 Isaiah 48:11 God says he doesn't share his glory. John 17:5 Jesus says he had glory before the world. This means either Jesus is a liar or he is God. And if he is a liar, why is he the focal point of Christianity?

[@gideonopyotuadebo2304]

YEHOVAH THE TRUE GOD IS THE MOST HIGH KING A KING HAS COUNCIL A KING SPEAK IN COUNCIL TRINITY IS PURE IDOLATROUS DOCTRINE BORROWED FROM IDOLATERS BY ANTILAW CHRISTIANS Jeremiah 10:10 ASV But Jehovah is the true God; he is the living God, and an everlasting King: at his wrath the earth trembleth, and the nations are not able to abide his indignation. Jeremiah 23:18,22,35-37 ASV For who hath stood in the council of Jehovah, that he should perceive and hear his word? who hath marked my word, and heard it? [22] But if they had stood in my council, then had they caused my people to hear my words, and had turned them from their evil way, and from the evil of their doings. [35] Thus shall ye say every one to his neighbor, and every one to his brother, What hath Jehovah answered? and, What hath Jehovah spoken? [36] And the burden of Jehovah shall ye mention no more: for every man's own word shall be his burden; for ye have perverted the words of the living God, of Jehovah of hosts our God. [37] Thus shalt thou say to the prophet, What hath Jehovah answered thee? and, What hath Jehovah spoken? Genesis 1:26-27 ASV And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the birds of the heavens, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. [27] And God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them. 1 Kings 22:19-21 ASV And Micaiah said, Therefore hear thou the word of Jehovah: I saw Jehovah sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left. [20] And Jehovah said, Who shall entice Ahab, that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead? And one said on this manner; and another said on that manner. [21] And there came forth a spirit, and stood before Jehovah, and said, I will entice him. Isaiah 6:1,3,8 ASV In the year that king Uzziah died I saw the Lord sitting upon a throne, high and lifted up; and his train filled the temple. [3] And one cried unto another, and said, Holy, holy, holy, is Jehovah of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory. [8] And I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us? Then I said, Here am I; send me. Nehemiah 9:6 ASV Thou art Jehovah, even thou alone; thou hast made heaven, the heaven of heavens, with all their host, the earth and all things that are thereon, the seas and all that is in them, and thou preservest them all; and the host of heaven worshippeth thee.

[@YouTubeMaster1611]

Mark 15:34 If Jesus was God why did he ask God why he forsook him? Was Jesus asking himself why he forsook himself?

[@paulaferris7859]

THANK YOU. I thought i was the only one reading the bibel this wah

[@21stOneGod]

Praise God for his word!

[@pierschoenpandiangan2022]

so▶️ God :◀️ I Am That I Am And The God Of Abraham, The God Of Isaac, And The God Of Jacob ✅‼️NEVER APPEARS HIMSELF‼️✅ and speaks to humans. He spoke to humans through THE ANGEL OF GOD or the Only Begotten Son of God John 6:46 ✅‼️NOT THAT ANY MAN‼️ HATH SEEN THE FATHER, ✅save He Which Is Of God, He Hath Seen The Father. Exodus 33:20 And he said, Thou CANST NOT SEE MY FACE: for there shall no man see me, and live. John 1:18 ✅‼️NO ONE HAS EVER SEEN‼️GOD,✅ BUT 👉 THE ONE AND ONLY SON,👈 WHO IS HIMSELF God and ✅‼️IS AT THE FATHER'S SIDE✅👈has made Him known. Isaiah 63:9 In all their distress, He too was afflicted, and‼️✅THE ANGEL OF HIS PRESENCE‼️✅SAVED THEM. In His love and compassion He redeemed them; He lifted them up and carried them all the days of old. Exodus 33:14 And the LORD answered, "✅MY PRESENCE✅ will go with you, and I will give you rest." Exodus 33:15 "If✅ YOUR PRESENCE✅ does not go with us," Moses replied, "do not lead us up from here John 7:29 but‼️ I KNOW HIM,‼️✔️ because✔️‼️I AM FROM HIM‼️✔️and He sent Me." Isaiah 63:9 In all their distress, He too was afflicted, and‼️✅THE ANGEL OF HIS PRESENCE‼️✅SAVED THEM. In His love and compassion He redeemed them; He lifted them up and carried them all the days of old. John 14:7 ‼️IF YOU HAD KNOWN ME,‼️ YOU WOULD‼️ KNOW MY FATHER‼️ AS WELL. From now on YOU DO KNOW HIM AND HAVE SEEN HIM." John 5:37 And ‼️✅THE FATHER HIMSELF✅‼️, which HATH SENT ME, hath borne witness of me. ‼️✅YE HAVE NEITHER ✅‼️HEARD HIS VOICE AT ANY TIME, NOR SEEN HIS SHAPE. John 8:19 Then said they unto him, Where is thy Father? Jesus answered, Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 7:29 but‼️ I KNOW HIM,‼️✔️ because✔️‼️I AM FROM HIM‼️✔️and He sent Me." John 8:55 Yet ye have not known him; ‼️BUT I KNOW HIM‼️: and if I should say, I know him not, I shall be a liar like unto you: ‼️BUT I KNOW HIM‼️and keep his saying. Matthew 11:27 All things are delivered unto me of my Father: and no man knoweth the Son, but the Father;‼️ NEITHER KNOWETH ANY MAN THE FATHER‼️👉✅SAVE THE SON, ✅👈AND 👉HE TO WHOMSOEVER 👈THE SON WILL‼️ 👉REVEAL👈‼️HIM. 1 Timothy 1:17 👉✅NOW TO THE KING ETERNAL, IMMORTAL, AND✅ INVISIBLE,👈 ‼️THE ONLY GOD,‼️ be honor and glory forever and ever. Amen. James 1:17 Every good and perfect gift is from above, coming down from the ✅FATHER OF THE HEAVENLY LIGHTS, ‼️✅WITH WHOM THERE IS NO CHANGE ‼️OR ‼️✅SHIFTING SHADOW.‼️ 1 John 1:5 And this is the message 👉WE 👈HAVE HEARD ✅👉FROM 👈HIM and announce to you: GOD IS LIGHT, AND IN HIM THERE IS NO DARKNESS AT ALL.

[@jamessmallwood5906]

I've just acquired a 1611 KJV of the scriptures....this is amazing

[@julegate]

I started reading the 1611 last year and absolutely love it!

[@ThePelicular]

This man made a good point from the book of Job because on the 1st day God said let there be light and the celestial light were not made till the 4th day. It should be obvious we are talking of spiritual light which is the very make up angels,falls into place perfectly. It is not surprising trinitarians look for a way to confabulate as usual,when all your problems look like a nail bring out the trinity hammer. Indeed God Almighty was most likely talking to the Angels Light.

[@SDeaneMalaney]

Hebrews 1:2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, who he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

[@achildofthelight4725]

Let us make man in our image.... and man was formed from the dust of the earth. That's the us right there.... the image of man is added to the image already created 😊

[@jdaze1]

The ONLY miracle birth is the New birth. Romans 1:4.

[@BvVb2099]

Your statements are based on a translation, but you should remember that there is also an ORIGINAL script of The Scriptures... The original Scriptures and most importantly Lord Jesus Himself have NEVER listed any names like God, Gott, Zeus, Deus, Dios, Dieu, Bruckan (Mongolian) or Pucheckhame (aboriginal Peruvian; imagine having to read: "In the beginning Pucheckhame (or Bruckan) created the heavens and the earth"). However it is quite clear that there are numerus statements throughout The Scriptures that clearly indicate a plurality of "ELOHIM". I will list just a few BIBLE verses and I hope you will read them. Forget the pioneers, forget human concoctions, forget misled imaginations - just read your Bible: Luke 1: ******* 1:26 And in the sixth month the angel Gabriel was sent from God unto a city of Galilee, named Nazareth, 1:27 To a virgin espoused to a man whose name was Joseph, of the house of David; and the virgin's name was Mary. 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name *JESUS*. 1:32 *He shall be great*, and shall be called **the *Son of *the Highest**: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David: 1:33 And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end. 1:34 Then said Mary unto the angel, ***How shall this be, seeing I know not a man***? 1:35 And the angel answered and said unto her, **The *Holy *Ghost** shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also **that* *holy* *thing** which shall be born of thee **shall* (***FUTURE*** !) *be *called *the *Son *of *God** ! Luke 2: ******* 2:21 And when eight days were accomplished for the circumcising of the child, his name was called JESUS, which was so named of the angel before he was conceived in the womb. 2:22 And when the days of her purification according to the law of Moses were accomplished, they brought him to Jerusalem, to present him to the Lord; 2:25 And, behold, there was a man in Jerusalem, whose name was Simeon; and the same man was just and devout, waiting for the consolation of Israel: and the *Holy* *Ghost* was upon him. 2:26 And it was revealed unto him by the *Holy* *Ghost*, that he should not see death, before he had seen the Lord's Messiah (The Christ). 2:27 And he came by the *Spirit* into the temple: and when the parents brought in the child Jesus, to do for him after the custom of the law, 2:28 Then took he him up in his arms, and blessed God, and said, 2:29 Lord, now lettest thou thy servant depart in peace, according to thy word: 2:30 For mine eyes have seen thy salvation, 2:31 Which thou hast prepared before the face of all people; 2:32 A light to lighten the Gentiles, and the glory of thy people Israel. *** 4:1: "And Jesus being full of the Holy Ghost returned from Jordan, and was led by the Spirit into the wilderness," 4:14 "And Jesus returned in the *power* *of* *the* *Spirit* *into* *Galilee*: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about." *** Luke 10:21 10:21 In that hour Jesus rejoiced in "The Holy Spirit" ("ܒܪܘܚܐ ܕܩܘܕܫܐ" B'D' - 'in 'The Rukha Qudsha, Aramaic) and said, I thank thee, O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hid these things from the wise and prudent, and hast revealed them unto babes: even so, Father; for so it seemed good in thy sight. I will list here as well just several verses from The Book of John: ** John 3:8: “The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit.” ** John 14:16: "And I will pray the Father, and He shall give you another Comforter, that He may abide with you for ever; v. 17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth Him not, neither knoweth Him: but ye know Him; for He dwelleth with you, and shall be in you." v. 23: "Jesus answered and said unto him, If a man love Me, he will keep My words: and my Father will love him, and We will come unto him, and make Our abode with him." v.26: But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in My name, He shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. 15:26: “But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of Truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of Me:” John 16:7: "Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send Him unto you." v. 13: "Howbeit when He, the Spirit of truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth: for He shall not speak of Himself; but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak: and He will shew you things to come. v. 14. He shall glorify Me: for He shall receive of Mine, and shall shew it unto you." End of quotations. If I don't understand correctly that ELOHIM is composed of THREE DIVINE BEINGS - "THE THREE HEAVENLY DIGNITARIES" as Mrs. White puts it, and if I do not understand that "The Spirit of Holiness" (as per Aramaic) is a separate Entity - Then I suppose I am beyond help - I probably need a head doctor... And by the way - there is NO VERSE IN THE WHOLE BIBLE that is mentioning that Lord Jesus was EVER BEGOTTEN - neither in The Old Testament, neither in The New - referring to His ETERNITY - or longevity; that notion is only in your instructors' corrupted, defectuous' imagination...

[@SmalltimR]

This comes-across as a drawn-out attempt for adding to scripture - ie, Jesus, of whom we know worshipped in truth, did not worship a plurality of GOD That said, this in-itself presents an insurmountable and unequivocal truth, in-that the worship established by Jesus Christ, which is the true doctrine and worship of GOD does not align with the proposed reasoning. In addition to this, adding or removing to the written truth with the intention of changing the doctrine of Christ does not prove to be GOD's will being done, and moreso, that those doing so, reveals themselves as apostates rather than followers of Christ.

[@janicemorton7581]

Ive been collecting these gems, thanks for sharing Malachi 2:10 and Isaiah 44:24. 💎Here are 2 for those who do not have them already: Isaiah 45:1-18 & Proverbs 3:19,20 ; 8:27

[@SmalltimR]

A most excellent collection of passages. I for one, would love to see a concise Bible study and presentation on GOD and His son in Creation

[@williamsenior80]

You're just justifying your beliefs. You're denying what the bible says in context.

[@SmalltimR]

As is the case with most everyone in such instances. ie, your closing statement sets you up for the very same, in-that your beliefs and justifications are being catered-to, in place of the author, and so-on and so-forth... That said, these matters prove to be in a constant state of flawed reasoning, in-that people will to justify their own chosen beliefs under the pretense of objective reasoning, and in-contrast to the objective reasoning from scripture.

[@pierschoenpandiangan2022]

Who is the "us" In the Gen 1:26 the answer is John 10:30 (KJV) I AND MY FATHER ARE ONE. John 17:11, 22 (KJV) 11 And now I am no more in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to thee. Holy Father, keep through thine own name those whom thou hast given me, that they may be one, AS WE ARE. 22 And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even AS WE ARE ONE: John 17:22 (KJV) And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even AS WE ARE ONE: Romans 8:29 (KJV) For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed TO THE IMAGE OF HIS SON, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Ephesians 2:10 (KJV) For we are his workmanship, CREATED IN CHRIST JESUS unto good works, which God hath before ordained that we should walk in them.

[@jimbobhaha]

John 10:29 “My Father, who has given them to Me, is greater than all; and no one is able to snatch them out of the Father’s hand."

[@jimharmon2300]

Jesus was saying as one in spirit , in thought . Not one being . Same when Jesus said John 17:22 (KJV) And the glory which thou gavest me I have given them; that they may be one, even as we are one:

[@jimbobhaha]

@@jimharmon2300 are we all One then? Assuming we are talking simply to the children of God? All are One. All are God!? Or are you saying God is 1. And we are (one/united) in God. As in "echad", one?

[@jimharmon2300]

@@jimbobhaha No We will never be as GOD . That kind is an evil spirit as Isaiah 14:13 (KJV) For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: We are directed to be one as in thought according to the directions of GOD .

[@jimbobhaha]

@@jimharmon2300 So, is Jesus GOD? Or is Jesus the Son of GOD?

[@M-i-k-a-e-l]

Ask Nag Hammadi?

[@christopherganancial3072]

Is a riddle " US " is God

[@SmalltimR]

As scripture reveals GOD was not alone at the time of speaking, there is no riddle to be had whatsoever.

[@stevonhampton2234]

DO UNITARIAN ACCEPT WOMEN PREACHERS?

[@21stOneGod]

Thanks for watching! Some Unitarian churches and organizations believe that women can be pastors/elders. On the other hand, our home church believes that pastoral roles within the church should be reserved for men, keeping with Paul’s writings on church leadership in 1 Timothy 3.

[@stevonhampton2234]

@@21stOneGod CAN YOU THEN EXPLAIN TO ME 1TIMOTHY 2:12 AND 1 CORINTHIANS 14:34,35 ,I AM NOT CALL A UNITARIAN, BUT I AM, A ONENESS(HOLINESS)(FOR ALL MEN SHOULD BE HOLY AS GOD IS HOLY)-(LEVITICUS 19,2 )BELIEVER OF GOD LET ME SAY THIS FIRST BEFORE I GO ON.ALL ONENESS ARE NOT THE SAME, I BELIEVE IN THE DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE (FATHER) AND THE (SON )BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE (FATHER) AND THE( HOLY SPIRIT) ARE THE """"SAME """I BELIEVE THAT THE WORD OF GOD WAS GOD ALMIGHTY, SPEAKING WORD TO BRING EVERYTHING INTO EXISTENCE, LET THERE BE LIGHT AND THERE WAS LIGHT ,I BELIEVE JESUS CHRIST IS **THE WORD OF GOD**THAT WHY HEBREWS 1:1,2)SAY BY WHOM ALSO HE MADE THE WORLD'S I BELIEVE THAT THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH THROUGH THE PROPHESIES OF THE OLD TESTAMENT, I BELIEVE THE TRINITY DOCTRINE IS A FALSE DOCTRINE, SEAN CAN YOU ANSWER THIS QUESTION, WERE ALL THE SO-CALLED EARLY CHURCH FATHERS CATHOLIC?I FORGOT, IF YOU SEE ANTHONY BUZZARD TELL HIM I LOVE HIS TEACHING ALSO

[@FOMC6780]

13 For when God made the promise to Abraham, because he had no greater to swear by, he sware by himself, 14 Saying, Surely I will abundantly bless thee and multiply thee marvelously. 15 And so after that he had tarried patiently, he enjoyed the promise. 16 For men verily swear by him that is greater than themselves, and an oath for confirmation is among them an end of all strife. 17 So God, willing more abundantly to shew unto the heirs of promise the stableness of his counsel, bound himself by an oath, 18 That by two immutable things, wherein it is impossible that God should lie, we might have strong consolation, which have our refuge to lay hold upon the hope that is set before us, 19 Which hope we have, as an anchor of the soul, both sure and steadfast, and it entereth into that which is within the veil, 20 Whither the forerunner is for us entered in, even Jesus that is made a high Priest forever after the order of Melchisedec. Hebrews 6:13-20

[@jdaze1]

He's speaking to the heavenly council which includes the 7 spirits of YHWH. The image we are created in.

[@aaronsanchez3141]

Likeness does not mean the same. Humankind is like GOD, Jesus is part of humankind.

[@Markds181]

It means literally, we are all going through life on earth, Himself included, and you will look exactly the same on earth as you do in heaven.

[@michaelmiller-hr6vz]

God the father -and Jesus! I respectfully submit you’re wrong to include angels. John 1:1 Jesus is the Word. It clearly states that Jesus was creating with God

[@21stOneGod]

Thanks for watching! John 1:1 is often used as a defense of the trinity however it is truly misrepresented in that way. The word of God is just that, his word! We see this clearly in Isaiah 55:11 "so shall my word be that goes out from my mouth; it shall not return to me empty, but it shall accomplish that which I purpose, and shall succeed in the thing for which I sent it." The word of God has power and means a great deal to us, but the word of God is not in reference to Jesus as a second person of the trinity/a preexistent Christ. Rather, it is in reference to Jesus as a perfect representation and fulfillment of God's word, his will, and his plan. We cannot try to parse out John's writing and then cause him to contradict himself. John very clearly views God as one (John 17:3 & 20:17). God is one and Jesus is his only begotten, human son. Pastor J. Dan Gill and Sir Anthony Buzzard have a done a much more in depth study and discussion on John 1. I have linked it here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZa4g36IfrKEga8 We will be discussing this scripture in more depth in the future. Thank you for commenting and we hope to see you back!

[@hubertlancaster]

We read this in, Rom 5:14 Nevertheless death reigned from Adam to Moses, even over them that had not sinned after the similitude of Adam's transgression, who is the figure of him that was to come. This scripture indicates that Adam was made in the image of Jesus Christ. Since Adam was and we were made in the image of God, that means Jesus Christ is God. The only supreme God we will ever see.

[@dennisjump8655]

He is talking to his son, Jesus. He is not talking to himself. Paul makes this clear, as does Jesus himself. "The beginning of the creation by God". (Revelation 3:14)

[@21stOneGod]

Thanks for watching! We know from Job 38 that God is actually talking to his heavenly court (angels). Jesus did not exist outside of the plan and mind of God before his birth from the virgin Mary. If you continue to watch this series, we will be discussing many of the scriptures in both the new and old testament regarding this things. Thank you!

[@pierschoenpandiangan2022]

@@21stOneGod John 1:1-2, 14 (KJV) 1 IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, and the WORD WAS WITH GOD, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 14 AND THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Hebrews 10:5 (KJV) WHEREFORE WHEN HE COMETH INTO THE WORLD, HE SAITH, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, BUT A BODY HAST THOU PREPARED ME: John 3:17 FOR GOD SENT NOT HIS SON INTO THE WORLD to condemn the world; but THAT THE WORLD THROUGH HIM MIGHT BE SAVED. Hebrews 1:2 (KJV) Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, BY WHOM ALSO HE MADE THE WORLDS; Psalms 147:15 HE SENDETH FORTH HIS COMMANDMENT upon earth: HIS WORD RUNNETH VERY SWIFTLY. John 1:1-2, 14 (KJV) 1 IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD Colossians 1:15-16 (KJV) 15 WHO IS THE IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD, the firstborn of every creature: 16 FOR BY HIM WERE ALL THINGS CREATED, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY HIM, AND FOR HIM:

[@jimharmon2300]

Jesus didn’t get the Spirit until after he was baptized. When he came up out of the water it light upon him as a dove . Then he went into the wilderness to be tempted of Satan. He was born a common man , a carpenter by trade .

[@pierschoenpandiangan2022]

@@21stOneGod John 8:58 "Truly, truly, I tell you," Jesus declared, "👉 BEFORE ABRAHAM WAS BORN, I AM!👀" John 17:24 Father, I want those You have given Me to be with Me where I am, that they may see 👉THE GLORY YOU GAVE ME because You loved Me 👉 BEFORE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD👀 John 1:15 (KJV) JOHN BARE WITNESS OF HIM, and cried, saying, This was he of whom I spake, He that cometh after me is preferred before me: 👉 FOR HE WAS BEFORE ME. 👀 Psalms 147:15 HE SENDETH FORTH HIS COMMANDMENT upon earth: 👉 HIS WORD👀 RUNNETH VERY SWIFTLY. John 1:1-2, 14 (KJV) 1 IN THE BEGINNING WAS THE WORD, AND 👉THE WORD WAS WITH GOD👀, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 14 And 👉 THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH👀, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth. Hebrews 10:5 (KJV) Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, BUT 👉 A BODY HAST THOU PREPARED ME 👀: Hebrews 1:2 (KJV) Hath IN THESE LAST DAYS SPOKEN UNTO US BY HIS SON, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, 👉 BY WHOM ALSO HE MADE THE WORLDS 👀; Colossians 1:15-16 (KJV) 15 WHO IS THE 👉 IMAGE OF THE INVISIBLE GOD 👀, the firstborn of every creature: 16 FOR 👉BY HIM WERE ALL THINGS CREATED 👀, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: 👉ALL THINGS WERE CREATED BY HIM, AND FOR HIM 👀: Hebrews 1:3 The Son is the RADIANCE OF GOD'S GLORY and THE EXACT 👉 REPRESENTATION OF HIS NATURE, 👀 upholding all things by His powerful word. After He had provided purification for sins, He sat down at the right hand of the Majesty on high.

[@21stOneGod]

There are already many videos on our channel discussing each of these in depth, but we are excited to say that we will be tackling each of these in our series as well! Many of the misunderstandings come from taking these scriptures out of context, allowing tradition to dictate how these should be interpreted, and/or looking at scripture with a preconceived trinitarian ideology. Again, thanks for watching and we hope to see you back!

[@GodGuy8]

John 1 says the word is god and then BECAME flesh and dwelt among us. Jesus is god

[@JudeOne3Four]

Greetings, from Genesis to Revelation, the word of God are the spoken words of God and it is also synonymous with the Gospel (Good News). The introduction of John is about the spoken words of God, the man Jesus Christ would proclaim. Jesus grew up wisdom and stature with God and men (Luke 2:52) Jesus was a carpenter, living under the Law, learning, obeying His God UNTIL He was ready to present to Israel John 1:31 I didn’t know him, but I came baptizing with water *so that he might be revealed to Israel.* 32 And John *testified,* “I saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it rested on him. 33 I didn’t know him, but *he who sent me* to baptize with water *told me,* The one you see the Spirit descending and resting on-he is the one *who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.* 34 I have seen and testified that THIS IS *the Son of God.* The word came to be flesh when the Spirit of God descended upon Jesus (John 1:32-34) and He *began* to walk according to that word, that is: the Good News of the Kingdom which God Anointed Him to proclaim. Luke 4:42 At daybreak, Jesus went out to a solitary place. The people were looking for him and when they came to where he was, *they tried to keep him from leaving them.* 43 But HE SAID, I MUST PROCLAIM *the good news of* THE KINGDOM OF GOD *to the other towns also,* BECAUSE THAT IS *WHY* I WAS SENT 44 And he *kept on preaching* in the synagogues of Judea. John 20:30 Jesus performed many other signs in the presence of his disciples that are not written in this book. 31 *But these are written* so that you may believe that Jesus *IS* the Messiah, *the Son of God,* and that by believing you may have *life* in his name.

[@kevin8360]

What is the 'word' in John 1? What does it mean? The 'word' or Greek 'logos' isn't the written or spoken word. It's a concept the Greeks used to express the internal debate, reasoning, and thought processes one used when planning something... such as where to go, how to get there, or what to say. Some of the ancient Greek philosophers used the word when speaking about the 'mind of God'. What John 1 is saying, is that before creation there was nothing but God and He was designing and planning all of creation, including the redemption of mankind to Himself... before starting. Of course the 'mind of God' is God. You aren't separate from your thoughts! All of that reasoning and planning God did, eventually was 'made flesh', when Jesus was born. The redemption of mankind was a reality, not just a plan anymore.

[@JudeOne3Four]

@@kevin8360 Logos simply means speech, a word. Speech is coming out of a persons mouth, his spoken words. It is all over Scripture. How do you determine the meaning of a word? By looking how Scripture defines it *and not* by going to a bunch of Platonists. John's Gospel is the only Gospel that is being distorted like this. It is impossible to do the same with the other Gospels. Nonsense, the word DID NOT become flesh at Jesus His birth but at His baptism!!! NEVER did Jesus preach/teach BEFORE His ministry, it was AFTER His baptism. FACT!!!

[@SmalltimR]

It isn't as though 'the word', of GOD was not well defined in scripture. Likewise, and unfortunately, the majority of the people appealing to such things, do so without an actual understanding of the title(of the word), and its intended use in scripture

[@DanielBShaw]

In Genesis 1:26, God is speaking as Triune deity. God is one in nature, essence, and substance. God is three in person. The Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are the three persons within the Godhead. Jesus Christ is the image of the invisible God. As the Son of God, Jesus is equal to God in deity.

[@21stOneGod]

Thanks for watching! This idea of a triune God is just not supported throughout the scriptures. In this series, we are truly diving into the word to better understand how God really is one and Jesus is his only begotten, human son. John 17:3 "And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent." 1 Timothy 2:5 "For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus."

[@mbeckford]

You say there are 3 persons WITHIN the Godhead. So the Father is a spirit, the Son is a man, the Holy Spirit is Spirit - where are all 3 located? You said they are all 3 IN the godhead. Elaborate on where all 3 (father, son, holy spirit) are located. And also explain what the Godhead means. I am wondering for my knowledge. Also you mentioned the son is equal to God in deity. Can you explain why Jesus prayed? Why he ate, learned and grew? Gods do not pray, eat, sleep, learn, grow etc.. so I am trying to see if my understanding of the omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient God is correct

[@DanielBShaw]

@@mbeckford The Godhead is the nature, or essence, of God. This includes all the attributes and characteristics of God. Colossians 2:8 says that in Christ dwells all the fullness of the Godhead bodily. This means that Jesus has both a divine nature and a human nature. Because Jesus has a human nature, he did all the things humans do. This includes eating, sleeping, praying, growing, and learning. Jesus' human nature exists with his divine nature. He is the eternal Son of God who came in the flesh. The Son was always divine, and at a point in time he took on a human nature by being conceived in the womb of Mary. Jesus told his disciples, "I am in the Father and the Father is in me." Wherever the Son is, there are also the Father and the Holy Spirit. Wherever the Holy Spirit is, there are also the Father and the Son. Wherever the Father is, there are also the Son and the Holy Spirit.

[@mbeckford]

@@DanielBShaw this is all so confusing! Let me try to understand. You said the godhead is the nature or essence of God. When I read that the nature of God doesn’t mean God himself. So wouldn’t that mean the essence of God is in Jesus bodily? Or something like that? I read Col 2:8 and it does not say Jesus is God or he is both God and man. I have a program that translates to original greek it does not say that. Can you provide me with a specific verse that says the Son was with the Father eternally? It would help me a lot. Also if I say the Father is in me that is not the same as saying “I am God” or “I am co-equal with God.” Wouldn’t you agree or no? As new saints who have been regenerated I assumed we all can declare the same thing. I looked up this verse 2:Corin 5:17. It says you are IN CHRIST. Does that mean you are Christ? Does that mean Christ is you? Wouldn’t that be the same as when Jesus said I am in the Father? If by that you believe he is God then how can one say they are in Christ without declaring to be God? Also here is what is very odd. The Father declares and identifies himself as God in first person all over the OT. If the son is God why doesn’t he ever do the same? They are co-equal they should act the same. Why is there no verse saying God the son. If he is God or a God it should read God the Son. Not Son of God. Why wouldn’t any of the apostles write “God the Son” to avoid confusion? No rush to respond. I am just trying to understand.

[@DanielBShaw]

@@mbeckford First let me apologize for giving the wrong verse number. I said Colossians 2:8, but I meant Colossians 2:9. While you check the Greek for that verse, I'll be working on a response to your points.

[@thegloryfabs]

Jesus was talking to the angels‼️ when he says "US"

[@SmalltimR]

Could be - then again, this could have been Jesus' own GOD and Father talking to His Sons Needless to say, there is room for interpretation with this.

[@thegloryfabs]

@@SmalltimR who was with God? When he went to go visit Abraham? Two Angels, God is always surrounded my angels

[@SmalltimR]

@@thegloryfabs They were three angels, one of which, we conclude to be the angel of YHWH - ie, given GOD's name That said, and quite obviously, these are different settings, with different terms, and therefore not likely indicative of the initial matter taking place in heaven before the sons of GOD.

[@thegloryfabs]

@@SmalltimR angels were he before genesis 1:1, theres no verse to prove when God created the angels

[@SmalltimR]

@@thegloryfabs Who were the sons of GOD shouting for joy during the planning stages in Job 8?

[@goingtoandfro]

Your explanation is interesting. Thank you for insisting that the Trinity is not a valid answer neither Jesus, who, would come to existance more than 4000 years later. In an interesting lecture by Rabbi Foreman, he come up with a very different view. In gen 2:7 And the Lord God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living being. Here man is created by God the father and the earth. Of course, the earth is not an active participant, but nevertheless it personifies the role of the mother. Thus the “US” of Gen 1:26 could point to God and the ‘Earth’. Yves P.

[@kevin8360]

That's a pretty interesting thought... It's not out of the realm of biblical language, to come up with this viewpoint. However, I think that since we know the angels were already created... The more likely scenario would be that God was speaking to the angels.

[@goingtoandfro]

@@kevin8360 Let's push the analogy a bit more. Who nourished the first man? Mother's earth isn't it? Certainly not the angels. Yves P.

[@fckinsey5439]

GOD IS TALKING TO GOD...3 PERSONS ONE THRONE! 🙌🏽🙌🏿🙌🏻😍

[@fckinsey5439]

READ YOUR BIBLES!! ❤ John 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made. John 1:1‭, ‬3 KJV Hebrews 1:8 But about fthe Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever; a scepter of justice will be the scepter of your kingdom. YESHUA IS GOD! 3 PERSONS ONE THRONE! PHILLIPIANS 2:5 -7 Who, being in very nature God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature of a servant, being made in human likeness. Philippians 2:6‭-‬7 NIV JOHN 2O:28 THOMAS SAID TO YESHUA " MY LORD AND MY GOD" ( YESHUA AFFIRMING HIM SAID) " THOMAS BECAUSE YOU HAVE SEEN ME YOU HAVE BELIEVED" ISAIAH 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace. Of the greatness of his government and peace there will be no end. He will reign on David’s throne and over his kingdom, establishing and upholding it with justice and righteousness from that time on and forever. REV 1: Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 1:7‭-‬8 KJV YESHUA IS GOD! CLEARLY 3 PERSONS THAT SHARE THE SAME THRONE! READ! READ! READ!!

[@jamiesimms7084]

Schizophrenia

[@TaxEvasi0n]

"They are one, he is three" Nonsense that's outside of human parsimonious, straightforward thinking.