Who Killed Officer John O'Keefe? MA v Karen Read Day 6 Recap

What does the #dashcam footage reveal about Officer John O'Keefe's death? Court TV's Vinnie Politan analyzes the complex relationships, the unusual crime scene, and the possible compromised evidence surrounding the case against #KarenRead.
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[@tiffanyboyd3852]

I think that the cocktail glass that was there at the scene tells you who killed him.

[@BlackStump172]

@@tiffanyboyd3852If he had a cocktail glass in his hand , then he went to said party . To whom was the policeman , who was speaking to Jen McCabe before she entered the house , speaking on his phone for minutes after that ?

[@angelaangela6875]

I'm surprised that a thick red plastic tail light cover would crack and break up on bumping into a soft tissue human body....maybe some hard type material I can see that....😮

[@julesthecat.]

Imagine how his family feels. Regardless of how Officer O’Keefe died, the investigation is a huge disgrace.

[@davidking6986]

Regardless Karen confessed and did it

[@yogabee2222]

​@@davidking6986 I think you are correct 💯

[@Tess-163]

@@davidking6986💯 correct

[@mandy2117]

i feel sorry for his parents its awful the investigation was sloppy jennifer says karens tail light is cracked . no one saw the tail light then they say they saw it weeks later come on and the cop said to emts it looks like he was in a fight didnt see john how would he know the cop went into that house never recored the interviews never got a warrant to check that house its crazy blood evidence prob out blood and snow ie water is gonna be degraded. who doesnt seperate witnesses are these 3 cops incomptence apt afterwards they got rid of the concertre slab and sold the house for lower price as well as get rid of the dog its crazy they fecked up the evidence and this is a fellow cop that died unbelieveable. his parents listen to the sloppy investigation everyday. they pass over the investigation to a state trooper thats friends wi the albert family le knew they wernt to investigate the case they did it anyways and fecked up everything. i cant see how they can find her gulity. so far the poss has hot air no evidence so far.

[@MrsGator7]

@@davidking6986no she didn’t. She was stating a question “I hit him?” An idea planted in her head by McCabe, Mrs Alberts sister

[@margaretkaine3001]

This is gonna be a Not guilty or hung jury. This case is wild and disgusting at the shoddy police work ESPECIALLY for a fallen police officer. Reasonable doubt EVERYWHERE

[@user-up8rd8rh9g]

I think not guilty

[@cynthiahagerman5718]

Horrible investigation. Reasonable doubt all over the place.

[@LisaOG]

Are there any evidence tying her to this murder?

[@GenerationXChick]

Looking forward to hearing the defense ask the Brian’s why they called each other and then destroyed their phones.

[@cmaggior1]

Also, they sold the house and got rid of the aggressive dog they owned, too.

[@rubyrae7455]

Trial is a farce , these cops are disgraceful and still working . It’s madness they running the town

[@cherikoehler1770]

@@cmaggior1 and why did they fill in their pool?? Is that where is dog is that they wont tell where she went?

[@lhr8833]

@@cmaggior1 Adding to both of you, also changed the floor before selling. Unless is people that sell fixer uppers, I’ve never seen people remodeling before selling. Even more, destroying a pool before selling, something that adds more sale value to the house.

[@user-up8rd8rh9g]

Have not heard about the phones?!?!?

[@Rumi-Descendant]

WOW WOW… if you live in Canton pack your bags and run. If this is how they investigate the death of brother in blue how they’ll investigate a civilian’s death… I’m outraged for officer JO’s family.

[@mauiswift6391]

They believe Karen is responsible.

[@Rumi-Descendant]

@@mauiswift6391 that’s not how investigations work😮 they believed???

[@bloomingdd1725]

Check out the Sandra birchmofe case which some of these guys were part of prior to John's passing.

[@BlackStump172]

⁠​⁠@@bloomingdd1725Will do ! .

[@BeachButterfly22]

Yeah absolutely. thank god I live in another country all together 🙏

[@SarahSodaPop]

John O'Keefe must have suffered terribly. Poor man. He seems like he was a selfless and caring man. It really upsets me when awful things happen to innocent and good people. RIP John O'Keefe ❤

[@mauiswift6391]

It’s so tragic and his life could have possibly been saved had she just called 911 right away and dealt the consequences.

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

So sad that there were first responders there who could have save his life. Googling ho long to die in cold certainly wasn’t to save him.

[@Tess-163]

she was so drunk she thought she just bumped him so he fell over into the snow , but I don’t think she meant to kill him she should have kept on telling the truth and maybe she would have if she was arrested on the spot after saying she hit him and it had been documented properly . I can’t believe she has the nerve to try and blame a house full of people they must be so angry at her and her bs lies in an attempt to save her own a$$ from prison . What if she gets off ? does she really want all of those innocent people arrested and facing prison for something they didn’t do ?? smh

[@LeahdaVinci]

If you notice, everyone refers to him as "Mr. O'Keefe" and NOT "Officer" O'Keefe. Its like they're trying to strip him of his profession. .... its very telling to me.

[@user-ck1js1zf7e]

What's even more telling is, none of them attended the service for this fallen officer. The two Brian's testified traveling to NY the day before to attend the funeral service for a fallen officer. But, not this fallen officer, whom they say was a good friend and that they loved him.

[@Agent_Lunicorn]

There’s 11 people still in the house. Yet there’s a “fallen brother” on the curb? Was it just too cold for them? WTF is that. Consciousness of guilt.

[@yogabee2222]

So all 11 people went along with covering up a murder ??

[@atticusmatlock4305]

​@yogabee2222 I think the defense theory is he wasn't out there dead while everyone was there. Fishy phone calls and web searches by partygoers started around 220am, long after they claim he was hit by Read. It is the prosecutors who claim he was laying out there for a long time.

[@lhr8833]

@@atticusmatlock4305Exactly, one of the witnesses said rigor mortis hadn’t even started when he was found. That is why they tried CPR and warming him up before calling it. This man wasn’t there since midnight.

[@Hopeful62]

Go back to turtle boy. Normal people find your comments moronic.

[@maximomedrano3143]

No bodycams on those cops early that morning and Lank goes in that house and NO RECORDING of those interviews. Massive problem.

[@betty-janececile5214]

And no walk through the crime scene

[@BoiseGreatDane]

Thank god the jury can actually see the witnesses faces

[@laurenurban3942]

It’s important to see their eyes when they testify. The eyes tell the whole story. A person can talk and lie but the eyes never lie. If I’m serving on a jury….I want to see the face of the witnesses as they testify. That is very important.

[@dianagiles9467]

Someone botched the investigation..everything should’ve been closed off as crime scene ..something not adding up..

[@davidking6986]

Regardless Karen got mad , very very mad at her boyfriend when she had him in the cross hairs in her rear view mirror and Hit the gas pedal

[@Grammichal]

@@davidking6986 Mommy issues much?

[@lhr8833]

@@davidking6986Where is your evidence? You must have more evidence than the police, because they have nothing.

[@BigLebowski324]

@@lhr8833they gave everything. Please tell me what the defense has other than trying to place doubt without evidence of their accusations.

[@davidgray1515]

Why is this looking more and more like the Delphi case? Nothing but incompetence and corruption from the LE side.

[@noraarellano9025]

“Police at the scene” Have you ever heard of a cover-up sir?? 🤣

[@mauiswift6391]

On tv.

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

😂 yes it only happens on movies.

[@lhr8833]

@@LeannaMurphy-mx7zyYou are right, that is why there are so many chapters of Innocence Project. Reading is free.

[@cindystephens9230]

So a dead body outside a home is not probable cause to investigat inside that home? The home he is reportedly was invited to. Humm.

[@xman6555]

For real

[@SunnyDays70s]

Insane.

[@sunnycali4984]

If she is found not guilty, is that whole department going to get away with the crime or is it going to be investigated to the fullest?

[@TheTommyBernhardPodcast]

That reenactment is the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen from a legitimate media network..wrong side of car..not even close to where he was found..like my 3 year old made it

[@angry-lucky-catty]

Is that what the police are claiming happened, though? Obviously none of this happened the way the police say. I imagine it would be hard to make an accurate re-enactment in this case.

[@notsorryyouretriggered]

What do you mean “wrong side” of the car? Did you witness the actual event? Where any impact occurred is pure speculation by the state; based upon minor damage to the right taillight of Karen’s Lexus. Shame you’ve procreated.

[@notsorryyouretriggered]

@@angry-lucky-cattyThe state is claiming Karen hit him during a 3 point turn; that sent him flying 10 feet from the street into Brian Albert’s yard. The state alleges that is the reason for right side tail light damage to Karen’s suv. I don’t know why this person is talking as if they witnessed what occurred to suggest a “wrong” side.

[@angry-lucky-catty]

@@notsorryyouretriggered Right, it’s like the animator tried to use some of the prosecution’s explanation, but since it _doesn’t make sense_ they portrayed the impact on a straightaway bit of road. The animator was asked to do the impossible imo.

[@notsorryyouretriggered]

@@angry-lucky-catty If anything it highlights how ridiculous the expectation of that impact sending John 10 feet from the road, is.

[@rightson750]

It amazes me how careful a Cop is when it comes to another Cop. "I didn't have probable cause". If the homeowner was a regular citizen, the Police would've used "officer safety" and shut that house down, removed all occupants, and searched for evidence. There was a dead Boston Cop on the front lawn, but the Boston Cop that lived inside the house was more important. Politically connected. A well liked, or feared member of a special class of citizen in Canton Massachusetts.

[@jenford7078]

The problem with that crime scene investigation was probably due to immense hangovers. Too bad all those people drove that night,

[@shaunamichele]

That is the LEAST of their problems.

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

I didn’t get the impression any of them are beer drinkers. Jk

[@lesliekahana202]

Isn't that the truth.

[@mouse6173]

Why didn’t any of the cops inside of the house come check on their “friend” and “brother in blue”?

[@ohioh111b111y]

maybe they didnt invite him and werent expecting anyone else to come ???

[@goodiesgumdrops1164]

I can't believe they charged her with such questionable evidence. Waste of tax funds.

[@yogabee2222]

Can totally see why they charged her. More then likely it was her. He never texted or called to say he was in the house. She was drunk and mad 😮

[@mandy2117]

i agree but they do say u could indight a ham sandwich but if there trying to indight karen i dont see where them mentioning the dog going away in the grand jury is nothing to do wo karen its the albert dog

[@laurenurban3942]

@yoga2222…..”More than likely it was her”. That’s reasonable doubt right there. You used the word “likely”…..you’re not one hundred percent sure….are you? That is reasonable doubt.

[@lincolnhtschick]

If she hit John, how did John’s ring video show her leaving that same morning with the rear light INTACT?? Why were broken pieces of it found AFTER PROCTOR HAD CUSTODY OF IT FOR AN UNACCOUNTED FOR 45 minutes?

[@inesabuchaibe355]

The first investigator who arrived at the crime scene did not do a good job! Not even on the stand did he answer correctly! Bad investigation in this case!

[@taraholloway8569]

So if she dropped him off and ran him over, what time did the house party finish?? So no one saw him as they left?? It doesn't make sense 😕

[@bjohnjackson1083]

He did not go in

[@ThomasWinn-sg4vr]

Exactly and Brian Higgins car was parked right in front of where his body was on the lawn when he left

[@lindsayshea]

122 BPM is far from a heart attack. I hit 122 doing a brisk walk.

[@subie38x]

Such a drama queen. I don't want to see less than 120 bpm when I work out.

[@havanesemommom6912]

Vinnie, your show, guests, analysis and details are second to none. I rely on you as my above all else source!

[@mauiswift6391]

Kevin knows this case well.

[@lauragarcia286]

So sad to see his parents sitting there in so much pain taking so long Prayers for strength for them.

[@PagingDrMakeUp]

I do not believe for 1 second Karen said I hit him

[@Jewels_has_arrived]

Watch her television interview, she admits that she said it moron

[@mauiswift6391]

She admitted to it on national tv.

[@bbwaddict_shae]

She did say it but it's being taken out of context. It was more an open ended question not an admission of guilt

[@marciabraga1111]

I believe she said it as a question because she was in shock and confused. They are using it against her.

[@mauiswift6391]

@@bbwaddict_shae how convenient when it’s a year later with her having her attorney’s present. People are more like to say the truth at the time of an incident and are highly stressed. Spontaneous utterance.

[@invisobill2125]

This dude really said 120 heart bpm is “almost a heart attack” 😂😂😂

[@moomyung9231]

Uh oh. My HR has been over 180. My current while sitting down is 98. Guess if I go walk in a few minutes I might have a heart attack.

[@invisobill2125]

@@moomyung9231 total clownery by this commentator. If I’m laying down for a while and I get up and walk up some stairs I can briefly but quickly beat close to 120, and when I’m all out running i can also get to around 180. I have around 60 bpm resting. Joke commentary by this dude.

[@Lookinforthetruth17]

What about the FBI investigation and all the evidence they have?

[@Jewels_has_arrived]

The feds found ZERO evidence of a cover up. Try again lol

[@mauiswift6391]

They don’t have any evidence. They had an investigation and nothing significant was found.

[@willcochrane6949]

It’s probably one of three things; being saved for later in the trial due to legal strategy. The fbi doesn’t have any evidence that is as strong than what police or defense already has. Or because of a legal technicality, it was determined not to be admissible in court.

[@mauiswift6391]

@@willcochrane6949 the FBI investigation is not allowed in the trial. It was one of the pretrial motions.

[@willcochrane6949]

@@mauiswift6391 yup see, i knew it was something like that. I didn’t want to say for certain without looking into everything. But with so much media coverage, it wasn’t worth watching the pre trial recaps for a 1 minute comment.

[@marciabraga1111]

She hit him on purpose? Even asked him to bend down to make sure she’d hit him on the head, ffs.

[@mauiswift6391]

They are alleging this why there is a second degree charge.

[@notsorryyouretriggered]

Lol right

[@davidking6986]

Of course she hit him on purpose

[@VenoLiquori]

He probably bent over to puke she didn’t see him, then pow! Would explain the puke on him. But on the flip side, his injuries, under clothes, makes no sense. Doubt created, no M2 conviction now.

[@carlaburgos12]

I believe the lack of evidence is going to give Karen the favor of freedom. Those law enforcement officers were not investigating a crime but just picking up left overs. Just horrible. The witnesses saying she expressed hitting him came across as not being honest. Why would anyone claimed something so many times.

[@mauiswift6391]

What! There is significant evidence against her, it hasn’t all come out in trial yet. What may get her off is how certain aspects of the investigation was conducted. But that will be it.

[@unodayporme]

And… I believe it wasn’t even in the original report. I guess they didn’t think it was important until later.

[@davidking6986]

Karen already confessed O MY GOD I HIT HIM,. SHES GUILTY AND HOPEFULLY WILL NOT BE FOUND NOT GUILTY BECAUS POLICE DIDNT TALK OR INVESTIGATE SOME OTHERS , BUT ABSOLUTLEY NO COVER UP. IF SHE WALKS FREE BECAUSE OF A BIAS JURY DUE TO THE PROTESTS AGAINST THE POLICE, THIS CASE WILL GO UNSOLVED BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW KAREN DID IT.

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

Then why do they all keep lying!!! Are you not seeing each lie get dismantled?

[@yogabee2222]

She admitted that she said at the scene that she had hit him She didn't interview on it but she said she asked it as a question not as a statement so if she's asking the question she must have known she did it but let's face it if you hid someone or something you know it She also stated he was to text or call her when he got into the house he did not text her call her saying hey I'm here

[@williamfreemon3878]

Love that the lawyer called out the so-called “body language expert” Pseudo Science is right

[@mauiswift6391]

I dislike those guests really just confuse matters.

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

We should have more Plevin videos. It’s a stressful time. People need a little humor break.

[@gimmegimme.]

body language means a lot and I thought the same about the woman testifying before hearing what the expert had to say. I'd have to watch the guy's testimony again though.

[@msjulsfl]

Im going with him as a Boston whistleblower! And they sacked him!

[@Pink_143_6]

I can’t with these so called body language experts 😂🤦🏻‍♀️

[@VelvetPanther]

I have questions: Where the body cam video of her confession? Why was the family dog that attacked him outside in the snow? Karen told the officers she backed out of the driveway and that’s where she broke her tail light, then, miraculously pieces of the tail light appear at the crime scene when none were found before. Snow did not melt more snow piled on. Where did the cocktail glass come from? Inside the house or he carried it from the bar into the car and got out of the car with it to head to the house? Does the glass match the glass at any of the bars? What happened with the frame who was inside the house and googled How long does it take for a person to freeze to death at two in the morning?

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

Canton pd so not want body cams. Why do you think that is?

[@Bluemoonofky]

It's so so very tragic that not even a fellow fallen officer was enough for that Barney Fife, Mickey Mouse police department to take things seriously and collect evidence the CORRECT way, without shop and stop bags, from a fellow officer, might i add, who lived across the street and red solo cups from him and not one person NOT one thought of locking Karen up or even writing it in a statement that she said she'd hit him? I call bullshit

[@Fido-vm9zi]

So police only searched 6x6 area. Officer O'Keefe was more than 8 feet from the curb. Near him was the clear broken glass. No tire marks or evidence of a vehicle on the lawn?

[@MuffinstoMangos]

Exactly...DIDNT THEY WANT TO FIND OUT WHERE THE GLASS CAME FR???

[@nickgoulet4732]

The animated car backing into his head is impossible since the missing tail light is on the other side "passenger's side"

[@EC-dz3fb]

It's not necessarily saying that's how the taillight broke.

[@lisajeter9511]

I can’t believe how other brothers in blue didn’t investigate everyone especially those inside that house unless it was a cover up. That’s not what should be done on the Blue line! The entire situation just sickens me!

[@user-ni2eh3ob4n]

The more I hear about this incident, the more I become suspicious of the people in the house and why wasn't his shoe found? The cops can find tiny bits of tail lights of her car but no one can find that shoe. Something just doesn't sound right to me !!! Smells like cover up to me !!!! Shame on the cops and shame on the people who lived in that house !!! Investigate the investigators !!!! There's just Way too much wrong doing with this case, period

[@vedha0]

These are state witness and i already have reasonable doubt. Defence only need to show incompetent investigation or dirty cop. They are halfway there.

[@msjulsfl]

To me, it's already incompetent

[@msjulsfl]

I grew up in Massachusetts

[@msjulsfl]

Worked summers in Walpple as a teenager! It's never been a good area

[@lesliekahana202]

FYI it's defense. It's always misspelled. I was told it was due to computer written articles. 🤷

[@Grammichal]

@@lesliekahana202British spelling is defence.

[@audreydaleski1067]

Party house. Drunken parties. Never come to a good end.

[@marierees8890]

These cops didn't even question the occupants of the house individually. Lang asked Jennifer Mcabe to go in and tell them he is going to need to talk to them. Are you kidding me? According to Lang's testimony Jogn looked like he could have been beaten up. Why would he let anyone go in the house? What if there were other injured people? John's injuries don't match someone hit by a car.

[@paulettekelly1146]

Amazing it is 2024 and they were this sloppy. What a crying shame. Sure hope they are taking notes now and making improvements.

[@mauiswift6391]

Did you listen to their testimony as to why they made the decisions they did? Nobody knew how it would turn out. I’m 100 percent certain no cop in Canton will use solo cups or a knock off evidence bag again. Hindsight is 20/20. Yes, the optics are bad but nothing is black and white. The jury will have to consider and decide as to their testimonies ultimately.

[@ThatRedhedd]

The citizens went to the city council and voted on a motion to audit the Canton PD because of this. The vote passed.

[@pistolpete8231]

How about taking notes on not framing innocent ppl for murder? This is not incompetence, it's a cover-up

[@gigis6790]

That's good to hear- hopefully the audit will not be tainted like this investigation.

[@brirashrn5445]

The cops killed their colleague and now are covering their tracks . Easy case problem solved mass cops has been getting away with crimes all the time that's why they got in trouble for pretending to work over time. . The cops didn't wanna lose their jobs. Karen also was having an affair presumably with one of John's colleagues so that's why she looks guilty. John was clearly stabbed by the broken glass on his arm the dirty cops carried his body to the white snow where Karen was picking him up will not see him covered in the snow perfect to set her up by accidentally driving over him in the snow covered body of John . This woman is innocent.

[@carolinesavva5376]

Is it possible that she hit him and didn't even realise? The whole cover up seems far fetched. So too does the idea that she reversed into him in a temper. Such a messed up case

[@laurenurban3942]

That’s what I was thinking. She may not have realized he was back there. Driving, reversing, etc….is a bit different when there is snow on the ground. I know that I have to accelerate more to back up in the snow…..to gain the traction…..and a lot depends on your tires and their performance in the snow.

[@brirashrn5445]

The real question is which police officer will go down for his murder?? That's the real question perhaps the drunken cop that got into a fight with him

[@Cunuculover23]

Acquaintances?!?!?? There are so many pics of them hanging out together lmao

[@mauiswift6391]

There was some photoshopping go on there. The original two pics were not but any subsequent ones were.

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

Nothing to see hear. Disregard all those life long memories.

[@Grammichal]

@@mauiswift6391 It’s not all about the photos, my dear.

[@kristenmarielle3497]

Umm no. The heartbeat rate is not that abnormal. What a stupid point to make.

[@Jewels_has_arrived]

Exactly! A normal bp can be between 100-150 during extreme stress. This kid is an idiot

[@mauiswift6391]

Very, like a she had a stress test attached to her. Geez.

[@VelvetPanther]

Where did he get her heart rate from?

[@Fido-vm9zi]

Imagine the tech information they have on everyone.

[@Jewels_has_arrived]

@@VelvetPanther She was wearing an Apple Watch

[@carrow1057]

Oh come on John's injuries are not due to a car backing into him. I have nursed many who have though.

[@diannewilliamson1946]

So glad you’re able to share logical views from experts such as Kevin Lenihan. He adds much needed reason to the case.

[@user-nj9db2tg9w]

How do we know it wasn’t the snow plow guy? Or a random hit and run ?

[@ThatRedhedd]

His injuries aren't consistent with having been hit by a car. They are consistent with being in a fight. The federal investigation and their accident reconstruction expert also confirmed the Commonwealth's theory is wrong. Also, her car had no evidence of damage from slamming into a 200 lb man. Not a dent. Cops are above the law & protect each other/cover for each other. Did Brian Albert, Colin Albert, and Brian Higgins really want to spend the next 30 years in Prison? Or, would they find a patsy to go down for it instead? 🤔 A man was found deceased on Brian Albert's lawn, and NOBODY in his home at the time was ever investigated. The home was never SEARCHED. Trooper Proctor's text messages to friends revealed that the Alberts *wouldn't be investigated* because Brian was "a Boston cop." The corruption has been *_displayed on a silver platter_* Only 5 people need to be "in on it." The 3 ppl in the house who beat John up, the brother of one of those guys, and their good buddy Proctor. Proctor has no oversight - what he says happened - happened. Nobody is looking into the Alberts because Brian and Kevin Albert are both cops. They protect one another ALWAYS. Can't deny the rampant police corruption in Boston. State Trooper Proctor is under investigation for impropriety AT THIS VERY MOMENT because of Karen Read's mishandled investigation. The FBI is investigating this investigation because it's DIRTY. It's too well-documented and known to everyone in the area to be in denial.

[@steve10]

He could have stumbled into someone else walking past who beat him up , but those marks still look exactly like dog bites to me, had they been more thorough there would probably been the dogs dna on the wounds , but then they want it to be her fault so those tests were probably never done

[@KRey112]

Wait! Sirens, ambulances, fire trucks..and it seemed like they’d just woken up? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Okie. Dokie.

[@ILoveWoolerbear]

What I don't understand is: Who hated Karen Read so much they would want to frame her ?? Keep in mind, NONE of this would have happened without alcohol abuse that night with any of these people. This is a tight knit, small New England cliquish town and community, and it seems fighting and dinking like high school people is the norm, including with Karen Read. Weird.

[@xman6555]

It’s not about her they hate. They risk their lives and career if they are caught.

[@pistolpete8231]

The people who committed it and are finding a fall guy? What type of question is that?

[@Deethehiddengem]

Kevin just sounds so much more logical than Nick. He seems to just look for the truth and not get caught up with the rumors and speculation.

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

No one across the entire globe thinks Kevin sounded reasonable. I’m embarrassed for him and his Prius video.

[@carrow1057]

Well didnt the Brians destroy their phones????

[@EC-dz3fb]

Why should they have?

[@lindat3607]

Some of the guests you have on make me not want to watch Vinnie! Like Turtle Boy and this new one, Nick, tonight. What are their qualifications to comment on the case other than making money off it??

[@mauiswift6391]

Kevin knows his stuff and isn’t making money off of it. I can’t speak for the other guy.

[@steve10]

Turtle boys fans are called Turtles Heads

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

Kevin is malkkng money off it. What?

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

And yellow cottage fool is called Plevin.

[@pistolpete8231]

The prosecution's witness testimonies are painfully boring. Wow. What a waste of time.

[@amyschreck4156]

I get tired of listening to this kid who is Karen's advocate. Majority of the time he is making statements I would expect from an 18 year old and his conjecture is ludicrous. He doesn't bring alot to the discussion!

[@mauiswift6391]

Agreed, at least he has not proved to be despicable creep like Tiny Boy.

[@lindat3607]

He brings no expertise to the show just like Turtle Boy.

[@mauiswift6391]

@@lindat3607 at least he isn’t a horrible person like TB, though he isn’t backing his statements up with evidence, I don’t mind he says his opinion.

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

So let’s listen to the unhinged attic guy instead. 😳 Wasn’t he touring Lizzie Borden’s house last week?

[@josephkain6213]

​@@mauiswift6391just stop with the tb hate. Open your eyes and realize what you are witnessing. Large scale, poorly executed framejob.

[@EVOLMAI]

When I see red lights in my neighborhood, I go to see what's going on, by opening my door or watching my cameras, I am not a LEO nor a EMT 🤷🏽 Not understanding the unconcerned ...

[@BoiseGreatDane]

What if any ??? 🤦‍♀️

[@stevengallant6363]

😡

[@subie38x]

Im sorry for the kids. They lost their mom, then their dad, now their uncle that stepped up to take care of them

[@sm0kybluedaze394]

26:00 And I couldn't agree more about not leveraging something as serious as a witness testimony in a murder trial on pseudo science...

[@niloo_atribecalledlove]

Tell your young guest (who doesn’t seem to be an expert in ANYTHING) - that 122bpm is NOT almost a heart attack. It’s a jog on a treadmill and fear can maybe do that to you. Just sayin.

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

As opposed to the unemployed bartender?

[@GMof8]

What’s the distance from Canton to Salem?

[@MS-ep2cq]

33 mi

[@Senoritagata-nu5te]

Is it Canton PD or Albertville PD?

[@ILoveWoolerbear]

Also, to call this perjury is ridiculous. These people are SMALL TOWN and probably see the same people over and over again in public places and get togethers.

[@slaws2279]

“No disrespect to your guest . . . .” Yet he continued to disrespect her.

[@mac7659]

When you go jogging, 122 bpm is normal. Far from heart attack!

[@rustyshackleford1114]

The Alberts killed him. This is why you should NEVER be friends with a cop.

[@moomyung9231]

Normally I know if someone is guilty or not, but not in this case. I would think it was an accident and she didn't realize while drunk that she bumped him, but the way they're going after her so hard and the way they're handling it so poorly, lying, etc makes me suspicious. Regardless, if I was on the jury, I couldn't convict beyond a reasonable doubt, at least so far.

[@06mrselfdestruct]

How do you hit someone going 26 mph and not injure any part of his body except the back of his head, his eye, and scrapes all along his arm? No damage to his body at all, no damage on his torso or legs? How is that possible?

[@user-uq7cu6pm9r]

so heartbreaking poor soul life cut short

[@carrow1057]

Where is all the street side camera footage? Oh wasnt recording in those hours.

[@robyn874]

Whether on purpose or not IMO she hit him. I can't believe all the people inside the house, the first responders & LE are all lying 🤷🏼‍♀️ shoddy investigation - yes

[@Munchikinragdoll]

122 bpm is not a heart attack 🤣

[@winsonboss1240]

I mean, is this going to be O.J part 2?

[@tbling]

Sgt Goode said an officer who had an office at the Canton PD department came to the station around 1:30am that Saturday night, during a blizzard....who was that officer and what the heck was he doing there? seems like the timing is strange

[@lisolette1]

You asked “was there any significant trauma that happened before this “ nobody asks this question. And what’s up with these body language experts covering up

[@williamfreemon3878]

I can’t believe these guys still use “body language experts”

[@Smaugette]

Right?! It's a joke, pseudoscience.​@@williamfreemon3878

[@brirashrn5445]

Lol significant trauma who ask that?? I think a reasonable question was did you guys get into any argument earlier or anything heated happen? Not did you experience trauma before this incident? Lol the no cell brain Jennifer McCabe is a liar

[@kabra72]

I think in the end it will be Karens own behaviour that will send her down. The fact that she asked to come and see the kids, but barely stayed in the house, just to pick up her belongings. and didn't care about the kids, who again had lost someone close to them...and saying to the brothers wife "I don't think we are going to see each other again" a family who clearly loved and respected her. The fact tha she could tell where the body was laying, from a backseat of a moving car. That she never ran up the house asking for answers. That she was saying I. hit him repeatedly .. The fact she tried to stage the breaking off her taillight, backing into his car..captured on the web cam, and where the footage from earlier that night mysterious went missing. That's gonna be an evidence bomshell! And only she had a motive....And still so much more evidence still to come.

[@NewfieLawNerd]

I think it was a drunken accident. DWI manslaughter not murder not a conspiracy

[@steve10]

They can't use all this evidence for murder , then change their minds , the judge should never allow it , either you try her for murder , or you go for the slightly easier to show to the jury of an accident.

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

They purposely up charged her. Wether he remembers or not, the D A told this to other people.

[@lesliekahana202]

Thank you.

[@Sandra-il5fd]

Flat earthers, eat your heart out

[@Gidget_Lynn]

Rocco needs to go. He is not open to an actual discussion and states opinion as fact. 120 BPM is not a tell and not a heart attack. Anyone in this situation would have an elevated heart rate. The dash cam just proved that it was snowing. IDK if Karen is innocent but the police definitely botched this entire investigation. Unprofessional and disastrous. My heart breaks for those kids who have lost so much.

[@jennyobrien849]

Caitlin said the cop that was there said we better call goody when he heard her say I hit him. Yet Goode testified and never mentioned anything about it

[@06mrselfdestruct]

McLaughlin saying “then she said 1 more thing” and Lally says “what was that one more thing” tells me she was coached, sorry

[@carrow1057]

I a body is found on your lawn, you go in the damn house!

[@annamaru7577]

It is hard for me to believe that all this group of people got together for a cover up!

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

Hold that thought.

[@thebeasters]

They all individually lied, didn't follow procedure and were subversive. You can't send someone to prison the way this case was bungled

[@Grammichal]

Keystone cops.

[@lexismom9341]

This is a police cover up if there ever was one! I hope Karen walks and sues this entire police department, city, township, etc......disgusting!!! Karen was distraught. Her boyfriend is lying in the snow.....of course she thought she hit him!!! He was already down when she got there!!! She didn't even see him!

[@inesabuchaibe355]

My opinion! Some of the detectives did not do a good job, they missed many things to investigate when they arrived at the crime scene! she is guilty for me!

[@lincolnhtschick]

NOPE

[@JB-si3rp]

She did!

[@emanuelsantos5925]

After all said and done what it's very strange is the fact that a Boston police officer is dead and the force is extremely quiet , like not showing their support as usual when one of them goes down even worse is the fact of not referring to him as an officer.

[@mauiswift6391]

They were told not to as it would be biased and the cops are already being blamed.

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

Really? Officer Chesna case was only a few months ago!! Same judge. Same county. You couldn’t stop his fellow officers from coming. What’s the difference? Oh that most don’t believe they are prosecuting the right defendant.

[@emanuelsantos5925]

@@mauiswift6391 As they should and the only cops involved are only those that got promoted or allowed to a quick and fast retirement.

[@kiing_tchalla444]

I believe the girlfriend. Something happened and they covering it up. Too many police scattered about that area looking shady

[@New_Zealand_1]

Where was the rest of the glass?

[@colleenfletcher2550]

Where is Officer O'Keefe's belt? You can see it in the video at the bar.

[@New_Zealand_1]

@colleenfletcher2550 So ... half of glass and belt and one shoe missing ... how the heck does that happen if Karen just ran him over?

[@mauiswift6391]

Tailgate and found in the snow when they were using the snowblower.

[@marciabraga1111]

@@mauiswift6391no it wasn’t, it was found the next day, watch the trial if you’re going to comment about it.

[@New_Zealand_1]

@mauiswift6391 It was at least a day or more before the pieces of Red plastic were "found" by a Cop who just happened to be there

[@06mrselfdestruct]

How can you back straight. Down a street hit a guy with the back of your car how does he go 12 feet to the side of the vehicle? And where was his hat and other sneaker?

[@kayvee9094]

How does Read make the fish face for 8 hours straight?

[@bethryan9077]

Exactly, LMAO.

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

Probably easy while looking at aunty be a huff and puff face.

[@LeannaMurphy-mx7zy]

Having to look at auntie bev

[@bntrouble31]

She has MS

[@Rhodes333]

@@bntrouble31 what does ms have to do with her face?

[@user-mq2fh8bz1t]

Suddenly CourTV is interested in the story? Where were you a year ago?

[@jennyobrien849]

What infuriates me is that they say on the 911 call a man unconscious on the ground he is a Boston Police Officer. I think if think it would have been a different response if they did. Also the never give John his proper title in the trial it’s Officer O’Keefe

[@diannehartnett5179]

Sorry, the gentleman on the right keeps saying 12:34? It was the crack of dawn. There was a hysterical woman, fire trucks, police cars, car radios, and ambulances on their front lawn. It's interesting they never came out the night before or that morning. Officer Albert (at the time), in theory, was trained as a first responder, had an attack dog, and was a former trained MMA fighter. He did not hear a thing? They did not come out when they heard a fellow officer was in critical condition on his lawn. REALLY! We will wait until we hear from the jury.

[@babs3652]

When Brian got back home from the funeral with brother Kevin he didn't say a word about Kevins whereabouts in the evening. He knew where everybody was but didn't mentioned Kevin. Anyone notised that? Maybe I missed it.

[@tiffsilva1]

Verdict: Canton is the drunkest town in America!

[@JulieCarroll-bo7jx]

She's so guilty why would all these officers be lying her Eyes are pure Evil I feel so sad for hes family 😢😢and her defence are so unprofessional

[@Bluemoonofky]

No, they're actually really REALLY GREAT at their job and the only unprofessional one is the judge.

[@lesliekahana202]

Defense

[@JulieCarroll-bo7jx]

😃 joke's

[@LiLHarOak]

@@lesliekahana202 drives me nuts too… spelled with an *”S,”* not a *”C”*

[@username.invalid763]

​@LiLHarOak it's not a spelling bee