Who Will Be the Main Villain of Superman: Legacy?

[@MisterW99]

Manchester Black and The Elite should be the villains of this first Superman movie. In my opinion. Perfect opportunity to explore the “No Kill” situation.

[@gechoman44iwantahippo]

Isn’t Manchester Black a real person? I thought he was a comic artist? Aren’t the Elite Darkseid’s guys?

[@eddiediaz5518]

@@gechoman44iwantahippo I don’t know much about them, but from what I know, Manchester Black leads the Elite, they’re a group of vigilantes that believe in killing criminals and think Superman’s methods don’t work

[@kadegetslaid634]

​@@gechoman44iwantahippo no...

[@revealingtruth3329]

The Authority will be the Elite

[@MisterW99]

@@revealingtruth3329 that’s what I think will happen honestly

[@gechoman44iwantahippo]

Personally, I really want to see Metallo. I think Brainiac should be saved for either a trilogy-ender or a big bad. As for the theme being Legacy and heritage, I’d like to throw out an obscure possibility: Ulysses. Since the Supergirl movie’s gonna take elements from a recent Supergirl comic, why can’t Superman do the same thing? Ulysses’s whole backstory is that he thought he was the last son of Earth, which could provide contrast to Superman, as Clark doesn’t have his home world to go back to.

[@neavetheartist]

Yeah Metallo would be my pick too, although he does give me a sequel vibe villian for some reason, idk why

[@baba3231]

I think Brainiac should be a JL villain. Metallo is a good pick but I'd like them to avoid featuring kryptonite too heavily and focus more on villains that are a thread to Superman without it so I wouldn't go with him. Maybe Parasite could work. Maxima could be an interesting one too.

[@treek10k]

Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, never ending

[@firtsnamefirstnama9797]

Nice idea

[@fahxxu4467]

If Ultra-humanite was the first villain it would be kind of poetic since he is the first supervillain as well and it shows the source of the comics matters

[@treek10k]

Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, never ending

[@aaronlogue6281]

@@treek10k buda loves you

[@TheBoysWW]

I can honestly see them going a Superman man of tomorrow route and having Jason mamoa as lobo fight an inexperienced superman

[@FifthRobin]

I'd be very happy with Brainiac or even Lex as a side-villain but Parasite is honestly my top pick

[@treek10k]

Jesus Christ died for your sins on the cross. Repent and believe in him or you will be separated from God The Father for all eternity and face hell forever, never ending

[@CharlesH-t9r]

Since Parasite is a main character in All star Superman that Superman legacy is based on I think he'll be the villian And If you saw James Gunn's film slither, that had alot really scary shape shifting absorption powers by the alien which is exactly like parasite's powers And he was also four different people , Rudy Jones, Dr Raymond Jenson, Alex and Alexa Allston And he can also appear like these four people and go from his true purple form back to their forms

[@Crinjester]

I’d like parasite to show up and I think he could be a large side character but I don’t think he’ll be the main villain of the movie

[@marcusyates3044]

I's LOVE to finally see Brainiac in theaters, but I'm still waiting for Livewire, she's so underrated...

[@youin24years]

Superman and Supergirl needs to fight Brainiac together

[@khizeryusufzai2185]

I remember the first Superman comic I read, the main villain was Livewire.

[@thedon897]

I have literally never heard of Livewire🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jaeloc1217]

I only remember seeing Livewire in young justice

[@noahfitness3974]

Also Silver Banshee & Maxima

[@jacobdinofan3070]

I would love to see either livewire or parasite as the villain

[@dynaguy3]

The “truth, Justice, and the American way” quote was actually from Peter Safran

[@alexandrefrauches132]

Based on the rumors, since the film will explore Clark struggle with his kriptonian heritage and the human lessons, I think the villain could be the Erradicator, with the plot taking inspiration from classic sci-fy film like The Iron Giant. The Erradicator could arrive on Earth and, at first, be friendly towards Superman, since his main goal is to protect kryptonians and their legacy. However unlike Clark, Erradicator has very logical view of things and after witnessing villains like Luthor, who aren't punish for their crimes and research about humanity history, he comes to the conclusion that humanity is corrupt and tries to push Superman to abuse his powers and force Earth to adopt Krypton culture, which Clark is against, claiming there's good people and that they don't have the right to impose their will on others. This could lead to argument were Erradicator turns against Clark and tries to destroy Metropolis, accusing it's people of corrupting Kal-El. In order to stop him Clark could trick Erradicator into absorving or merge with him, allowing the android to gain his memories and emotions, seeing the world through his perspective, realizing in the end his mistake and sacrificing his life to save Earth.

[@9Maciej]

I think Manchester Black could still work as an antagonist for the Superman movie. Just maybe not make him the leader of the Elite and instead they will bring him back as a member of The Authority, if DCU is going to be like a mix with Wildstorm and DC members.

[@maxleon61702]

A few facts of sorts.

[@Dom_510]

I’d go Metallo with Lex as the puppet master. Gunn has indicated he has plans for Braniac but I think it would be best to save him for a JL movie.

[@Josh-dm7cu]

A “for the man who has everything” story for its sequel would be so tear jerking

[@battleboy7878]

It's most obviously gonna be lobo... Cuz lobo was one of the first persons he fought during his early days of learning his abilities

[@Victor-qx3vx]

I’d love Brainiac on a movie as long as he survives to face the Justice League later. Also hope to see Parasite and Toyman on the big screen one day.

[@griffongamer4779]

My pick is Metallo. Technology is always adapting and expanding everywhere you look in the world. I can really see James Gunn using this notion with Metallo and the Gods and Monsters theme fits perfectly here. I would change his origin a bit and have him be this humiliated thug that Sups apprehends early on in the film, and my idea would be to have him stumble across Brainiac in computer form who grants him a cybernetic body fused with the powers of a Kryptonite shard. Having Brainiac appear this way would also work very well in setting up later on down the line.

[@EatDatButt445]

Captain Marvel ll Captain Marvel lll Captain Marvel llll Ant man lll Avengers the Kang dynasty Avengers Forever Screenplay By Loveness & Waldron Director Destin Daniel Cretton

[@spiderbat9957]

i personally like the elite as the villain

[@prolastmedia6171]

·Parasite as the Sub Villain who engages in most of the physical confrontation ·InterGang and Apokoliptan Weapons Trafficking as the main, overarching antagonist > InterGang hires Booodsport as one of many attempts at killing Superman. They are the ones who gave him his cool suit - Apokoliptan Tech - and we get a cameo that gives us the story of how Bloodsport tried to assassinate Superman. Thatd make the perfect entry into a new Superman.

[@Jay-cy3wt]

Honestly, I’ll hope for Brainiac but I think that Manchester Black and Livewire would be interesting secondary villains. It’ll be cool

[@khitnay7525]

I think it would be either Metallo or Parasite with Lex in the background

[@BlackClaw2]

I’d love to see Atomic skull as a main villain.

[@cameronluckhaupt1103]

If you see the plot summary of supergirl: woman of tomorrow it talks about her possibly find the people that destroyed Krypton. Which is why I think Brainiac will be the villain in Superman 2 with Supergirl. The first one will probably be Lobo and have him hunting Kryptonians leading him to Clark in Legacy.

[@robanator9083]

ToyMan I feel like would work and fits Gunn’s style

[@dynaguy3]

I’m just excited knowing it’ll be a villain that hasn’t been overdone in movies. But I hope the main villain isn’t some obscure character no one has heard of. But I hope Lex is introduced and we actually get a good Luthor in the movies

[@TheMrSpawnTrap]

Gunn is like the CEO of making obscure characters mainstream. Look at the GOTG for the biggest example.

[@featherguardian6023]

Brainiac,Lobo,the sultry Humanite,and the Elite Makes the Most Sense to be on Superman Legacy.

[@-That_F_Guy]

Let's give Nuclear Man another chance

[@BlackWolf_BW7]

I want a superman trilogy like this: Superman: Legacy (Villian: Lobo) Superman: Legacy Sequel (Villian: Brainiac) Superman: Legacy 3 (Villian:Doomsday)

[@khalilerron854]

Replace doomsday for kalibak

[@AJ-yl5lt]

I think they should make Lobo the main bad guy, in my opinion the best Lex Luthor Ive seen on screen was Michael Rosenbaum in Smallville, he made that role his

[@gormass6183]

Just thought of an idea of how they can introduce gorilla city in the fallout of a battle with Braniac and it can merge the modern origins of Grodd with his older one of being from a different planet

[@Halracc]

I hope it’s live-wire toy-man and Silver banshee

[@WarhawkBeyond2040]

Anytime someone asks me who i want to see as the main villain for a Superman movie, i always say without heistation, Brainiac. For me, he is right up there at the top with Lex Luthor in terms of main enemy level and he's long overdue to appear on the big screen, he would present an incredible challenge for Superman mainly because he's a super smart computer in the form of an android who you can't truly defeat as he always finds a way to download himself into a reboot copy plus he's one of those villains who's programmed to complete his mission. Brainiac was one of the main heavy hitters in the DCAU and it's time to do that for him in the new DCU, so let's make it happen

[@zacharywiebe5820]

My first thought is Brainiac then Metallo then Lex Luthor and others

[@WarhawkBeyond2040]

I understand and respect that Lex Luthor is the main Superman villain but to be honest, i'm tired of always seeing him in virtually every movie. I'm more than ready to see someone we haven't seen yet, Brainiac is my first choice, Metallo is another i want to see, i wouldn't even mind seeing Parasite

[@CharlesH-t9r]

​​​@@WarhawkBeyond2040 I agree we As fans know how bad ass Superman's villians are But we're talking about the people who wrongly say Superman "can't be beaten" you want a villian for the reboot who's a legit threat and also is an alien like him which plays on the "how can we trust superpowererd aliens" arc That's who dc has to reach to be successful financially because us Superman fans will watch anything Superman cause we love the man of steel I go with parasite because like Superman he has a human part of him in his host, he's a legit threat to Clark and he plays on the "look this Alien among us pretends to be human" arc that James Gunn spoke on

[@WarhawkBeyond2040]

@@CharlesH-t9r Parasite would be a good villain to start with and he can present himself as a deadly threat to Superman especially as he can drain his powers and use them against the man of steel. I think that could work and then Brainiac could show up in the second movie as the main villian

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

Ha que villanos podrías para brave of the bold yo pondría a red hood pero también podrían ser deathstroke o hush?

[@mr.knightthedetective7435]

Since Lex Luthor has been the big bad of OG Superman movies, its best to set him up as over-arching Chapter 2 threat instead. While Brainiac is THE most popular choice for Superman Legacy movie, it would be better to set him up as "Thanos" of DCU's Chapter One. Lobo should be set up as the big bad of the Authority before he encounters Superman. As the final candidate, Ultra-Humanite should be amped more or even changed because he was already featured in Star-Girl, James Gunn should make his version a flat-out giant Yeti with cybernetic enhancements

[@gregorydonkey949]

I want brianic in the DCU but I think I would rather have him as a Justice League villain

[@BeastBoyTushar]

The latest of these dream-castings involves WWE superstar, Roman Reigns, as Lobo. but his looks are what really set him apart for the role. When put side-by-side, the two look nearly identical.the artist gave us all a taste of what Roman could look like as the popular character.

[@TevyaSmolka]

I would've really love to see Brainiac adapted in a superman movie because he makes the most sense for superman legacy at least in my opinion.

[@M567dk]

If James Gunn can pull off a Ultra Humanite vs SUperman fight and make a bit of references to their Golden Age Origins, then that would be something to see on the big screen. I also vote for Brainiac as well as it would be a nice way to introduce Supergirl if she is coming up next in these new DC films.

[@lucywillis4174]

I want it to be brainiac. But I'd like blood sport, and Mongol fleashed out. Plus a Lobo cameo...

[@filmlegend3831]

I'd rather see a secondary class Superman villain amplified as the primary antagonist, like Metallo, Manchester Black & The Elite, or the Ulta-Humanite

[@JulianMack-po9fb]

I think Lex could hire Metallo and Parasite to kill Superman

[@browndestroyer3016]

Mongul with Lobo(kinda) in Warlord Apocalypse Saga. Booster Shot storyline. Action comics #993-997

[@willjohnboy]

I'd like to see parasite, mongol or bizarro.

[@ChildlikeMan]

Spacey and Eisenberg are my two favorite Luthors

[@red20753]

My main pick for a Superman movie villain has been the Ultra-Humanite for almost 3 years now

[@agadhrp6772]

Anyone for Metallo, or The Toy Maker along with Lex?

[@DarkKnightofAnime]

I’m definitely for Metallo, the guy has not had a real time to shine

[@blitzwing_4k]

My personal choices are Brainiac and Metallo. I know that these characters are far away from each other, but I just wanna see these guys in live action

[@dabloons4days]

i think brainiac is just so cool and imposing as a villain that it might be clouding my judgement but i also don’t see how if the ultra humanite wasn’t the first he would make sense as the villain of his movie. it doesn’t seem to stand on its own two legs and im sure there’s many other characters that can pull of what he can

[@michaelrodriguez6711]

Im surprised you didnt mention parasite as a likely villain

[@TheBlackLion001]

He's never been hinted at 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@speedforce7512]

I think Parasite should be the main villain of a first Superman movie, then General Zod or Luthor, then if you do Luthor for Superman 2, do Brainiac for 3, but if you do Zod do Luthor for 3

[@احمدابوزيد-ت4ض]

Can you make a dc marvel shared cinematic universe video ?

[@CatotheE]

I hope they go with someone like Parasite or Metallo. Leave Luthor, Brainiac, Doomsday, Darkseid, Mongul etc. for later.

[@PeaceXShabazz]

Cause of James Gunn I believe the main villain is either going to be Mr. Mxyzptlk or Maxima

[@biguy617]

We need a Luthor that is a cross between Clancy Brown and Michael Rosenbaum.

[@khizeryusufzai2185]

Nice. Can you do Brave and the Bold and Supergirl next?

[@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511]

A mi me gustaría que brave and the bold sea red hood Y supergirl sea brainiac o mongul

[@khizeryusufzai2185]

@@williamdaviddiazcuchimaque7511 I think Red Hood would become a side threat. The main villain is most likely, Ras ul Ghul, Talia ul Ghul or Deathstroke. Supergirl I hope is Cyborg Superman, it would be a cool Invincible Omni man situation.

[@gustavoclarindo101]

As long as it isn't Metallo or Parasite i will be happy. I find it so frustrating when Superman fights those, plus it would be even more frustrating for him to fight them in the first movie

[@carlosnicolasaronesfranco894]

Presenting Metallo i na story that combines Superman: Secret Identity and Superman: Kryptonite would be awesome. Show how Clark defines what Superman should do by confronting a mecha soldier whith a heart of kryptonite that thinks he is the embodiment of the american hero, but in reality he its just a projection of the ballistic and war promoting "american way" has generated instead of what a "better tomorrow" and what american way used to mean can achive. This is important to do before we see an adaptation of Superman vs the Elite or the Authority, where superman will have to defend that revelation he had in the first movie.

[@koushikraja331]

Nah, start small with parasite or metallo, with Intergang be in the side villains. Like, have him be the young, t shirt wearing superman who evolves in the end...second movie needs to have manchester black and the third movie can have a slightly bigger threat, like mongul and warworld. Brainiac is a justice league threat, period. Knowing James Gunn, he would give us either Titano or ultra humanite.

[@talentroller4413]

hard disagree brainiac is superman first then justice league

[@nightwing701]

The Elite is great for the second movie once the no kill rule has been established

[@Joeymercury514]

I actually don’t want brainiac I would love for the movie to be based on Superman for all seasons and Superman secret origins

[@Hey.This.Is.Stuart]

That would be cool if number 1 was the main villain

[@darrenkairis9733]

It can only be Gunn's cousin or brother, or maybe a nephew, or his wife.

[@radioactivefunk]

i don't see deathstroke in chapter 1. we're getting one batfamily project, and it's about batman and damien. deathstroke is either a titans villain or a 1 on 1 combat partner for batman. i think gunn would lean towards the former, given his universe starts with dick as nightwing (and, if he is to be included at all, a dead/undead jason todd). so, while i think your analysis and commentary here are great, i disagree with your deduction that brainiac will not be in chapter 1

[@liamlennon3316]

Due to his ties to the US government, I wouldn't be that suprised if Slade showed up in waller

[@HermitLord]

Yeah, Brainiac is tied in with the Supergirl Woman of tomorrow movie...so I don't think he'll be the main villain of Superman Legacy but possibly the main villain of Justice League imo

[@nunomartinho9217]

The authority is going to be the first villains of the justice league

[@LiivyPer]

I think brainiac has major sequel or Justice League villain potential, I think Lex could be a Superman sequel villain as well

[@kevinkingslayer2450]

Off topic here, but I gotta say it....... Superman is in my opinion the GREATEST AND MOST ICONIC SUPERHERO OF ALL TIME....😎✌

[@foxman25144]

Give us Metallo!

[@tylercanales5794]

I found that blood sport is actually interested and I think maybe just maybe we could see him as a Superman fill-in even though gun said or has used them in the suicide squad because from what I’ve gotten from the few things I’ve seen suicide squad and you are not a part of them forever and I said some sort of life sentence like the first suicide squad movie or the one we saw an arrow or even from the second suicide squad and in the second suicide squad they did say that blood sport was in prison for almost killing Superman

[@ДимчоДимов-ж7е]

No Mr. Mxy?

[@Victor-qx3vx]

He’d be so fun! I’d like to see him mess with Superman while Supes has to deal with Lobo. Something tells me those 2 villains would work well on the same movie.

[@JcgLounge]

Brainiac is a great villain. But imo, he would be better suited for a Justice League movie. Because Brainiac works better as an antagonist for an ensemble film.

[@talentroller4413]

deels wrong to not do him in superman fiest. he has more stories with superman and has a personal connection/ history

[@matterstoyou2970]

Gunn’s ign top 5 is unfortunately obvious; M.M, Lobo, Brainiac, tCoO, and Deathstroke. Those are all characters whom have partial exposure towards casual audiences. Then these characters can be filtered into titles like Batman, Superman or Suicide Squad easily and with organic explanations towards contemporary characterization and storytelling.

[@SMC_TRADER1s]

We need LOBO

[@worlds_greatest_detective5198]

Jesse Eisenberg's Lex was a good representation of what an evil billionaire would be, but he just wasn't Lex Luthor at all. So yeah, Lex has never been done well in live action movies.

[@redherringoffshoot2341]

tbqh all of the gorillas would be better as villains for only either Animal Man or Vixen, or as Justice League villains (or even for Suicide Squad, if you really wanna stretch it)

[@jxlennn]

I don’t know if everyone knows this, but Superman WONT be 25, so don’t worry. He’s gonna be in his mid thirties and he’ll be a few years younger than Batman but still close in age.

[@calebberens9692]

Parasite I think could offer something emotional and full of depth if they did him like the animation at all.

[@robertbadders7006]

I kind of agree with you but that again I kind of don't I do believe free action should be the main villain Because he has a little bit of a history He doesn't connect with General Zod in super man and if we're doing a Legacy background story My 1st pick would have to be brainiac. Because he has A lot of the connections Too superman Any part of the history of itself that needs to be back to you Just before crypton was Destroyed.

[@TheDrexLord]

Still hoping for Brainac, but there are other villians I would love, like Lobo (but not momma, there's been nothing to suggest he will be Lobo, aside from one thing, and there's no reason for Lobo to be an elseworld story) lex, but not the main villian, Metalo and toy man.

[@lewieanderson6579]

Gorilla grodd maybe? Or even Amazo

[@biguy617]

Hopefully Brainac will be the villain

[@victor.maskalenka]

Maybe the Elite shows up in Legacy as truly evil guys but Superman makes them stop killing people so they become the Authority being heroes with the opposite worldview of Superman but not villains anymore

[@laverniustucker8198]

Literally Zatanna was hinted at

[@CharlesH-t9r]

Zatanna is a hero and she's a huge Superman ally

[@prolastmedia6171]

Ultra Humanite is dope

[@TheBlackLion001]

Agreed

[@jaysinleigh]

It's James Gunn, so Solaris is in play.

[@erickareem8361]

Brainiac is a JL villain

[@genjie_darkstar125]

Main villain of Superman legacy will be Adam west and Zoro gonna make a small cameo in the movie

[@laverniustucker8198]

Literally most people like Jesse Eisenberg

[@matterstoyou2970]

POWERSUITED Lex Luthor (main) Lobo (minor villain)

[@biguy617]

Ultra-Humanite is more of a Flash villain

[@xenospawn7015]

What about mr mxyzptlk?

[@ThePizzaPagel]

I hope it’s Parasite. It would show general audiences a new villain they’re unaware of because James loves that like WHO THE HELL IS THE AUTHORITY? I THOUGHT THE LESSER KNOWN CHARACTERS WERE GETTING TV SHOWS!

[@TheD.O.C.7769]

Steve Harvey as Lex Luthor🤐

[@MyDeeroc]

Parasite and lobo like in the tommrowverse superman movie.

[@HereJune]

brainiac seems too much of a big threat, I know he is overused but lex still makes the most sense

[@talentroller4413]

brainiac has been a main enemy of superman so often. that’s why he should be the superman trilogy concluding villain definitely not the first

[@CharlesH-t9r]

​​@@talentroller4413 plus he's a justice League threat he can be the big bad of the whole new Dceu because he can also mind control solar powered Kryptonians

[@jakobewhite7649]

Silver banshee??

[@mikemenendez2046]

Studios don't want to use a wild character like Brainiac because the CGI and s*** will look like s***

[@sharkanenoa5928]

BRAINIAC is such an OBVIOUS choice

[@alapoint2012]

The alpha male (Superman) vs toxic masculinity (Lex Luthor) having a problem with strong males. The Matrix (braniac) problem, societies vs the individual. Free will vs. fate. Or the true enemy death anti-life equation (Darkseid).

[@lewieanderson6579]

Lex Luther has been done to death, just like the joker. Start the movie off with metallo or parasite.

[@chemostar2361]

as much as i want brainiac, i don't think he's a good starting villain. such a big character needs to be saved for later. it's like a justice league movie that uses darkseid as the main villain right away. it's just too soon

[@zemox2534]

Why don't they use Brainiac? Seriously, WTF is with these stupid studios and their reluctance to use Brainiac as a bloody main villain in a Superman film? I am sick of their excuses!!! Now, with that said, while I love to see Braniac appear on the big screen, I personally want to see the Parasite make his big screen debut and face Superman. Parasite has loads of potential, and I want to see the potential used in a good Superman film. I want to be hopeful but so far, Gunn keeps disappointing me with his comments and decisions

[@perranmorris5074]

Lobo