Why 167,000 People Just Left Michigan

[@apushman]

To add on to the fact that you need a car, the car insurance in our state is super high too.

[@foxhound1972]

I live in Battle Creek. My property tax is over $3000 on a 1.66 acre lot for a $208,000 house out in the country with no lakes or anything special. It's crazy.

[@uprebel5150]

After Michiganders overwhelming re-elected President Nixon in 1972 he offered federal assistance of a subway system that would by now would have expanded to all of Metro-Detroit. The Big Three convinced Lansing to say no. Their thought process was that they would sell less cars. Like that would have made a significant difference impact on car sales.

[@dianekay8771]

Hey, guess what? Michigan has many other cities and towns other than just Detroit. Yesterday I drove towards the Motor City and the expressways were virtual parking lots at certain points. I would never want to live in Florida. Maybe you could show us what is positive about Michigan. Michigan is such a beautiful state. I wouldn’t live anywhere else. I would take the cold weather before hurricanes, which seem to be getting worse and worse every year. The winters in Michigan are also getting milder. Sounds like you really dislike Michigan, well there are 49 other states for you to live in, if Michigan is so bad.

[@TakenTook]

OK, everybody. This video is for clicks. Six days ago he was talking about the best suburb to move to in Michigan. And if people want to move away from the world's largest supply of fresh water, we don't mind. It will increase the inventory of available homes for the rest of us who like everything Michigan has to offer.

[@PaulWolfert]

Thanks for the feedback. All videos on KZbin are "for clicks" - it doesn't mean the info is false. I help a ton of people buy and sell here and this is just a video about why people leave. Supported by facts. I get hammered with comments from people who say I don't "tell the truth" and that I should talk about people leaving. So I am.

[@TakenTook]

@ -- No, I get it, it's the whole point of KZbin. But I've disagreed with you about certain neighborhoods in southeast Michigan before, and it just seems funny that somebody who wants to sell real estate in Michigan is seemingly trying to dissuade people from moving here with titles like this.

[@cbodley4676]

Lack of public transportation definitely hurts

[@PaulWolfert]

Could be better - hopefully it will be in the future.

[@KJInvesting]

Plus, the weather as well!!

[@cbodley4676]

@KJInvesting A little but I don't think weather is much of a factor if you lower the cost of living and offer better paying jobs.

[@Syrkix_dinoplays]

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[@KanitaRutley]

Amen to the traffic. I've lived in Philadelphia and NYC. Traffic here in Metro Detroit doesn't compare!

[@LoudGatr]

Great Vid Paul ! It’s important to bring attention to these issues so that those living in Mich know what needs improvement!

[@DK_hobby]

move from CA... this video is so opposite for me in everyway! lol love it here. glad I moved to Michigan... just need to find a house we like...

[@mikelee0072]

Keep your Californian assholes in California. WE DONT WANT YOU!!!

[@carlhansen9512]

@@DK_hobby do your research on the taxes. $6000/yr is average on a $250k house.

[@waterdawg08]

I dont know. I moved from Detroit to the suburbs of D.C. i went from paying 363$ a year to 1150$ just for owning a car (same vehicle). In VA, they have property taxes on vehicles. Plus registration, emmison, and vehicle inspection. The traffic is horrible, especially i95, and housing is at least 20k more expensive on average. that's just a sample size, but Michigan doesn't look that bad at the moment. I've been here 3 years, and from a cost point of view, Michigan is not that bad.

[@stevevlahos1]

Michigan is amazing. No hurricanes, earthquakes or fires. 4 seasons and a lot of fun things to do. Macomb Twp has good schools too. Also, the climate is good pretty much all year. With climate change, it really doesn’t snow like it used to 20 years go. Let them move out. Less traffic 🤭

[@esteban1487]

Overcast dark cold winters, 6 months of clouds, rainy cold springs, sleet and slush. Born and raised there. Summers are ok, humid. Fall is awesome, as are the beaches.

[@keanuwick8485]

Macomb Twp though is the most boring soulless cookie cutter place in the world. If you like endless treeless subs full of houses with beige siding hat all look the same its great I suppose lol. My parents moved out there 23 years ago...I moved out a year before that so never lived there myself...but man its so meh. Safe though and good schools....I'll give it that.

[@MelW669]

@@stevevlahos1 I moved to NC mountains years ago. So much for a safe climate. So far I’ve been through a hurricane and had a sizeable forest fire within about a mile of my house. I’m moving back to MI as soon as I’m able.

[@uprebel5150]

The Eastern Upper Peninsula of Michiganders offers the following: Low property taxes, Low crime, Lots of sunshine and low humidity because the three Great Lakes flush all clouds away right after it rains thus never cloudy for days on end, great friendly polite and genuine humans, absolutely gorgeous scenery, little light pollution resulting in thousands of stars, beaches that are not crowed in the summer. Lots of mammals. I could go on and on. Sure winters are cold but so are those in Metro-Detroit where I am from. Move UP here especially if you are working remotely. We need more people UP here because we want our own Congressman.

[@up-uw4op]

but no daycare or school choices for those with kids. if you want your kids safe in the water you will most likely need to travel for swim lessons.

[@MelW669]

@@uprebel5150 what cities do you recommend? I’m originally from the lower peninsula, living out of state but am starting plans to move back eventually. I’m in jnfo gathering mode right now.

[@kradwonders]

The auto industry worked very hard, for decades, to get rid of public transportation so they could sell more cars and it worked in Michigan.

[@esteban1487]

Stellantis is crushing their Michigan employees.

[@tyronejackson2235]

You can thank the democrat EV mandates and Union demands for that.

[@MBR4824]

I agree with the traffic! It’s not bad at all! The price of home and property taxes kill any dreams of home ownership though

[@esteban1487]

I left for AZ 4 years ago to retire. Best decision I ever made.

[@up-uw4op]

Ill never leave. I love michigan. I moved to wisconsin and it was a nightmare. I moved back asap.

[@MelW669]

I can’t wait to get back. Currently in NC and I hate it here.

[@JamalWilliams-h7x]

As a person born & raised in Milwaukee,wi i don’t blame you .😂😂

[@barbaradunlop6444]

Each time you highlight the 'best cities' near Detroit, you always select Oakland County and farther west. I've suggested you take a look at some of the areas in Macomb County. For example, ShelbyTownship, has beautiful neighborhoods and a high number of restaurants and popular shopping areas. The schools are highly rated, crime is very low, and the taxes are very reasonable compared to our Oakland County neighbors.

[@PaulWolfert]

Thanks for the feedback! I'm planning on recording videos about each county in the future.

[@croswellianprincess3590]

Go Roseville!!!

[@randyrodriguez4186]

Here in vegas the house prices jump up about 10% a month

[@chucknchar]

Higher taxes, cheaper? OK, but nicer? We like it just fine; I had friends from Texas that came to Michigan in summer cause Texas was 100 degrees plus all summer long and they love our summers.

[@dkramer4]

All the haters can get the f out and stay out. We have THE most beautiful state in the contiguous US, no salt and no sharks, more miles of coastline, islands and bays for sportsmen, approved by 4 out 5 of the Great Lakes, reproductive rights enshrined in our Constitution, and damn if Big Gretch didn’t actually keep her promise and fix the damn roads! If we can enshrine trans right in the constitution I’d say we’d be doing just fine.

[@stephenbass8686]

Facts

[@esteban1487]

Sounds like a leftard paradise! lol

[@jjradV]

dkramer4,excellent comment ! I wish the ALL the haters would leave ASAP, one can only dream about our beautiful state being full of kind,compassionate people with self respect and integrity, but oh ! what a dream !!

[@esteban1487]

@@dkramer4 Labeler lol

[@RamTrucks590]

I agree, I'm not worried about people leaving Michigan. Maybe traffic will improve. Maybe that's why Michigan voted for Trump last week. Maybe the liberal are the ones leaving, and that's fine for me.

[@MikeRobinson-zi7sd]

I love michigan been here my whole life.hate the michigan government though.

[@carlhansen9512]

I just pulled the plug on moving TO Michigan. The property taxes are too damn high! Paying about 1/4 the tax on an equivalent house here in Colorado, despite the house costing 2x as much.

[@MelW669]

Did the cost of insurance outweigh the cost that you’re spending on the home?

[@carlhansen9512]

@MelW669 no, strangely the insurance quotes I got for Michigan were about the same as what I pay in Colorado, auto and home.

[@Johnadams20760]

a lot of people left the state of 2020 and how the governor treated people

[@ivearies4187]

For a person saying the traffic in Michigan is bad, obviously has not the state ever in their lives.

[@SH-jv5uf]

We considered retiring to Florida. But with its climate changes (both environmental and political) I can’t do Florida. Michigan is the much better option for us.

[@walterlangkowski4723]

Sounds like you need to go to California

[@SH-jv5uf]

@@walterlangkowski4723 CA? Nah. Not for us.

[@randyrodriguez4186]

I don't if anywhere besides nyc has any kind of public transportation

[@MrSuper80a]

Investors ,young folks, foreigners are buying up Detroit homes left and right gentrification is coming my rental properties are booming not selling.

[@nijinokanata111]

I'd buy that shirt!

[@Syrkix_dinoplays]

But Michigan is the baddest state in America …..

[@stephenbass8686]

Chicago is worse in crime dude.

[@DSLethal1]

One of the big 3 is not going to be here by the end of 2025.

[@YungJ]

🧢

[@5Ring]

I left Michigan in 1987 to join the Marines. Since my discharge, I've lived in California, Utah and, for the last 23 years, Florida. I would never even consider moving back to the depressing, high-tax, leftist welfare state which is Michigan. Still visit family, still root for the Tigers, Lions, and Wolverines, but I will never EVER reside there again. By the way, there's been a saying about Michigan since the 1980s. "Last one out, turn out the lights". Still applies today.

[@ricosally6734]

Born and raised in Michigan, moved 13yrs ago, best thing I ever did, hate the place

[@garagesale5948]

Bitchen Nit-Whitmer says everything s fine.

[@t4r478]

Auto companies went woke.

[@keanuwick8485]

Get rid of Whitmer and people will move back. She has ruined this state. Benson and Nessel as well.

[@danchi5516]

How so? Be specific.

[@keanuwick8485]

@@danchi5516 Do I really need to be specific lol? Here you want specifics, you got specifics. The metrics of Michigan. Bottom 10 in economy and education. Top 10 in population loss. You really need more fing "specifics" than that? I'm guessing you're one of those still reeling from Tuesday huh? lol

[@Dominomfer]

Republicans controlled Michigan almost exclusively since 2010, spare us the Whitmer blaming. Democrats as usual are forced to clean up the mess left by republicans, just as they’ll have to do when the adjudicated rapist leaves the White House in four years after he’s stolen trillions.

[@jjradV]

keanuwick, why don't you move ? no one is stopping you !

[@jjradV]

danchi5516, good question ! They have no idea what they have just voted for, they will be finding out shortly ! Personally I wish ALL those idiots that voted for the convicted felon and r****t would leave the state, one can only dream but what a dream !