Why Advanced Conqueror's Haki Is So Confusing

[@nicholasverze5134]

I think the true explanation to the lightning in attacks is more likely the fact that Oda through the years decided to slightly change and modify his "style" of drawing for haki clashes. He started experimenting with lighting clashes in dressrosa (with those thing and more perpendicular lightings) and then became more adept/advanced the drawing technique as he went forward through the story and through irl time. We have to remember several years pass in all the time between arcs and Oda, as any person changes and improves his work and technique. So this is mostly a meta characteristic of the story connected to his improvements in drawing, and not truly explainable through in lore means.

[@theweedphilosopher]

This actually works with power creep tho. More elaborate haki effects corresponding with increased power

[@RaffDGoat]

I like Haki as a power system but I wish Oda was more clear at times what Haki people are using. Would make some debates so much easier.

[@ANUKO97]

For sure

[@juanmarodriguez6010]

Yeah. The anime tries this making a specific sound for future sight, with the ryuo creating sakura flowers or with advance coc having a specific color for each user

[@furorteutonicus9045]

The point is that Oda does not care about powerscaling debates at all. Why should he spoonfeed those people?

[@Eman02kG]

But that’s the fun of it

[@Mananpicar]

@@furorteutonicus9045 He obviously does, he powerscales all the time, it's not a major concern for him clearly, but let's stop pretending power scaling in shonen isn't essential to create tension and literally every shonen writer HAS to worry about it

[@nopenope6114]

“He’ll use it when two conquerors haki users clash… like luffy a ulti” LMAOO

[@isaiahthompson2134]

Ya I'm side eying hard. Did I miss something? Is ulti a conqueror or just a script gaf

[@ravelhidersunk4458]

​@@isaiahthompson2134 it's sarcasm

[@TheGoldslash]

@@ravelhidersunk4458 who doing sarcasm? morj? like there some people who genuinely believe ulti has coc lol

[@devonrounds5583]

I deadass had to pull up the wiki bc I was about to say if she has it they’re just giving it out to anyone atp

[@SH-rs3zw]

i think a lot of people forget that most aCoC users are also using aCoA (advanced color or armament, or "ryuo") in conjunction with it. when luffy punches kaido in chapter 1010 (and throughout most of the fight in general), he's combining aCoA with aCoC because as stated by luffy himself, aCoA alone is "too shallow". he's still using it to deal internal damage, but aCoC allows him to do that to greater effect due to the increased AP it's the exact same thing with roger and whitebeard's clash and big mom punching page one. they're all combining aCoA with conqueror's. law and oden comment on it out of shock because they've never seen the no contact part from either an aCoC or aCoA user. it doesn't necessarily mean all aCoC users are aCoA users, just that luffy, roger, whitebeard, and big mom in those instances were users of both when kaido and yamato use aCoC many of their attacks make direct contact because they're not combining them with aCoA. they're not trying to deal internal damage like luffy. kaido splitting the sky with luffy is one of the few times we actually see him use aCoA because his kanabo doesn't touch luffy's fist. when he splits the sky with big mom earlier their weapons touch in chapter 1048 luffy remembers his aCoA training with hyogoro because he needs it to fight against kaido's magma attack without burning his hand off. if it was possible with only aCoC he wouldn't have brought up the training. he's still combining aCoA with aCoC, but only to boost his AP. aCoA/ryuo is the reason no contact is made and internal damage is dealt

[@Kaste11]

Exactly. The whole video starts with the wrong foundation that no touching is conqueror's indication and continues the mess from there...

[@ZZ-ex8py]

Bad headcanon

[@ZZ-ex8py]

@@Kaste11ur dumb

[@richcast66]

So you are telling me, that as soon as Luffy unlocked Acoc, he instantly used it with Acoa, when he had that no contact moment between his foot and Kaido's kanabo?

[@voidanime.]

@@richcast66yes, luffy literally explained that acoc works like infusing ur arm with advanced armament haki. They both work the same so if u know how to flow your haki throughout your body, u can apply both at the same time.

[@henryebisike1385]

After watching this, the anime using aura for conqueror`s haki a lot doesn`t really seem all that bad.

[@toliverwrist6770]

At least in the anime, animator Henry Thurlow explained that ‘gold aura’ is the visual indicator for Conqueror’s Haki, on Episode 738 of the One Piece podcast at 1:20:45.

[@asianpersuasion4901]

THEY used gold aura to indicate aCoC, but it doesn't mean shit since there are so many different animators with their own styles that what is SUPPOSED to be aCoC is literally any color of the rainbow, depending on what the animator feels like using.

[@toliverwrist6770]

@@asianpersuasion4901 Apparently it was a choice that the whole animation team complies with under the direction of the episode Director who basically has final say on the parts they direct, over the personal preferences of the individual animators, who themselves try to sneak in their own personal touches when possible. The animation team tries to establish guidelines on these sort of things to prevent confusion among the staff going forward. Sometimes there is room for flexibility.

[@thkhoa8805]

Tbh, when I saw black lightning from Koby's fist, I too started to doubt this whole black lighting representing Advanced COC attacks thing

[@userusernomi]

my big realization moment was when Jinbei used it. I could accept (with a small amount of copium) even Ulti, but nah Jinbei made me completely stop believing black lightning = conqueror's.

[@Monkeytheluffy56]

​@@userusernomiwhy not jimbei, dude is a perfect man to possess conquers haki.

[@HoFMiddy]

@@jamesfoxsmithwhat do you mean by too early? Age? Ace unlocked it at like 10 and if you mean story that doesn’t make sense either because we’re in the final saga

[@nathanlevesque7812]

That's an odd example to be the turning point considering how big of a gap there is between his fist and the effect.

[@Felix-co4jh]

​@@HoFMiddyHe is referring to "Advanced Conqueror" not just "Conqueror"

[@serenno6045]

Thankyou for making this video. Its annoying how many people get this wrong... especially with Koby recently.

[@MarianaBello-fq3hx]

People need to realise that lightining is just a vague hype tool and not hints for advanced coc. It sucks but it's the reality.

[@JusDion]

@@MarianaBello-fq3hx so when koby does in fact display conquerors your going to need a kaido or big mom to say out loud that it is indeed conquerors?

[@zoovaado7759]

@@JusDionit’s wasn’t conquerers

[@JusDion]

@@zoovaado7759 I'm just supposed to take your word for it?...exactly. 🤔 you're not even questioning your own bias.

[@Mohamad-m7md]

@@JusDion That’s irrelevant wether Koby has it or not that’s not the point the point is Lighting doesn’t equal kings haki it just means strong haki

[@biggimmicke]

i actually love the idea of black lightning being the form of 'pure' haki, much like how a subtle blue stream is how chakra is often visualized.

[@RaffDGoat]

Thank you Morj for this video. I must admit I also used to falsely believe black lightning to be a proof of Conquerors.

[@egusisoup1826]

At this point it's just part of the hero's journey for one piece fans

[@100navat]

Really it ain’t even your fault. Oda just executed the different levels of advanced armament and conquerors haki poorly

[@patricknez7258]

Well said

[@userusernomi]

In your defense (and mine too), until kinda recently it wasn't really inconsistent. That image showing Sabo vs Burgess could easily be only sparks coming from Sabo (and there's nothing to indicate if Sabo has conqueror's or not), Don Chinjao could also easily be a conqueror's user. It only starts to seem inconsistent recently when you see everyone, even Jinbei, throwing around black sparks. Now nothing makes sense and it's anyone's guess who has conqueror's until they make someone pass out.

[@Nastyn1nja808]

I was arguing up and down the chat this week a lot lol no one believed me. Thanks Morj.

[@cvox607]

The anime didn't help by making the first use of advanced conqueror haki so flashy and colorful with petals and golden aura and shit , and they gave him flashbacks of his training with advanced armament during it

[@Smkymcpott85]

The black lightening feels like a representation of high levels, or even advance haki. Haki isn't one of those power systems that has been explained thoroughly through a character. Which is where the messiness comes into play. Gotta love the subtlety of One Piece.

[@ReiseLukas]

Perhaps Armament, Observation and Conquerors aren't even separate types at all, just different frequencies of the exact same thing. Only Conquerors can use that certain frequency to use Conquerors Haki. We've been treating Haki like it's three different species when it technically should be treated as one thing but in different frequencies

[@Starcotic]

@@ReiseLukas my exact thoughts

[@chasinghaze0962]

That's not what Subtlety means. Subtle things can be understood clearly with enough analyzing. Haki can't. It will always be confusing (unless Oda explains later)

[@ReiseLukas]

@@Starcotic it makes more sense that way. If they all were one but in different frequencies than the traits each "type" has can overlap. The not touching is a trait advanced Armament and advance Conquerors share because they are linked.

[@Smkymcpott85]

@ReiseMLukas similar to Chakra and how one weaves it, you can get different results. Haki seems to be the same, whatever frequency and how much of that frequency you are emitting depends on how much of a spark your attack will have with the environment around you.

[@GeorgeMesaros]

Black Lightning is an indicator of advanced head-cannon

[@davidharner2481]

The big reason for this is because let’s be honest. Oda doesn’t care about powerscaling too much. He just sees oh no contact strike and lightning cool

[@VictorDurand-me5yu]

context : ODA IS INCONSISTENT AND ANNOYING

[@berndarndt9924]

This is pretty much it and it's likely one of the downsides of drawing a manga by yourself for 25 years. And drawing full no contact fights would be a lot harder and wouldn't look nearly as good. There is a reason why most fights in anime are melee/contact.

[@ravelhidersunk4458]

In regards of coby feats, I don't really care if it advance CoA or advance CoC, it still looks awesome. If it truly advanced CoC I think oda will further explain it in the future chapters, just wait a bit

[@MylesB93-]

I agree. People are getting way too caught up in whether it's CoA or CoC and completely ignoring the fact that it was an awesome moment and a great feat for Coby.

[@gintoki_sakata__]

Thank you!! People in the one piece community lack patience so much it's getting annoying They should know by now they gotta let Oda do his thing

[@Leo.23232]

it is a perfectly legitimate critisism that the indicators for these different abilties are inconsistent, it would be better if it werent

[@SrMissileMonkey]

It can be both. I love the feat! Go Koby is about time. But it'd also be nice if we knew what it was to make Koby's Garp matching feat even MORE awesome.

[@Keith_E]

Koby doesn’t have acoc and if he does that’s horrible power scaling on odas end because that would put Koby on the same strength tier as kaido, shanks, Roger, luffy

[@PlanetZoidstar]

There only one issue with the "their attacks aren't touching" note to Adv. Conq. Clashes. It's not consistent. When Shanks and Whitebeard clashed their weapons are shown to touch, as are Big Mom's and Kaido's. We get the cloud split but not the lack of contact during the clash.

[@mciulion8224]

Ok, can you explain to me how Luffy and Katakuri did the no touching thing with conquerors haki but without advanced conquerors haki? If you look at it they didn't touch and destroyed everything around them without even using any attack that looked way more impressive than any other conqueror clash, how is that possible? That reminded me of Shanks when he damaged Whitebeard's ship without an attack as well.

[@mciulion8224]

1:04

[@spyfire242]

Pretty sure you hit the nail on the head with Shanks and Whitebeard's ship. Powerful enough bursts of conqueror's haki just physically pushes/damages things, this is separate from coating.

[@sobeso]

the shanks part is different but your katakuri example is actually spot on because it is sometimes unclear of much knowledge luffy has on advanced armament haki or advanced Conquer, since wano takes place later and he is training it there instead of during whole cake. So it kind makes us assume that it was all conquerors during that clash with katatkuri but now it seems like I got reread that whole fight

[@MementoDespair]

It seems that is just really powerful Normal CoC Luffy and Kat had. Shanks was just flexing a bit on WB ship, Im sure that wasn't advanced CoC either, not until he decided to clash with WB. Normal CoC just a powerful Aura that knocks out fodder and then physically affects the environment when stronger.

[@mciulion8224]

@@spyfire242 The thing is we never saw anything like that again in the story, Shanks is one of the best conquerors users if not the best. But Katakuri and Luffy doing that without advanced conquerors is still not explained how.

[@droods10]

I thought the black lightning was just an overwhelming amount of haki. When I first saw the black-red lightning during the Dressrosa arc, I thought it was just a good way to show the clash between two powerful haki users, Doflamingo and Luffy. When Doffy turns into demon time, the favor turns into him and change the color into purple. Same goes to Kaido when he attacked Luffy with the Thunder Bagua. I also didn't what old man Hyogoro taught to Luffy at the time so I never considered it as Ryou or Advanced Conqueror's Haki. When Roger and Whitebeard clashed, I never thought it was Advanced Conqueror's Haki however we see Oden's reaction looking intimidated which what happens when Conqueror's Haki is being used. Remember Rayleigh demonstrated the Armament Haki to Luffy, Rayleigh didn't touch the animal at all but was taken down. It all make sense when Hyogoro explained Ryou to Luffy, allowing your stored haki to flow into your fist can destroy from inside. A much clearer explanation to Rayleigh's demo.

[@droods10]

++ I believed that Haki might have an intriguing explanation by the end of the story of One Piece. Considering the fact that Haki was called Ryou in Wano and the World Government/Marines only uses Six Powers instead of Haki really excites me for some reason. Power system is a significant element of every action anime so for Haki and Devil Fruits not reveal the origin of those two up until this point is something at least for me.

[@RaffDGoat]

10:28 hahaha Advanced Headcanon 😂 I’ll use that from now on.

[@mrbanks456]

5:30 Luffy vs. tree was more iconic than gear 5, personally.

[@ohmypoo123]

THANK YOU! There's wayyyy too many creators that jumped the gun saying Koby has conqueror's. Like come on, this isn't new people!

[@Mohamad-m7md]

Here’s the number 1 rule that people need to understand if it’s not confirmed don’t assume it wether that’s Koby having kings haki or wether it’s x character stronger than Y character

[@adamiadamiadami]

Filler video, it's very clear since early post-timeskip that black sparks are just strong haki.

[@chivy761]

sky splitting and the invisible barrier are the indicators we can rely on. each time an invisible cushion is shown it's advanced conquerors. roger and Whitebeard is an exception as it was earlier in the story and wasn't completely defined yet. but skysplitting cannot be argued.

[@shyguypro9876]

Haki isn’t a soft magic system, but it is very squishy. People like to pretend it’s as fleshed out and detailed as something like Nen, but that’s just not true.

[@axaxaxaxaxen9896]

you might even say it’s rubbery

[@GuysCupank]

No one can beat Nen Detailed explanation

[@justaway6901]

It was poorly realized power system

[@jonathandelgado3755]

@@axaxaxaxaxen9896I find it has the properties of both rubber AND gum actually.

[@Problemsolver434]

I personally don't enjoy Nen. I hate reading fight scenes that require hundreds of explanations from numerous characters just to understand what is going on. Then a character has to do this and this and that so the ability will work. And if they don't do this and fulfill that condition and bla bla bla, the ability will fail. I prefer something like bending in Avatar. It is well detailed and explained and does not require excess exposition and multiple conditions that have to be spelled out in each battle. You can understand what's going on by just watching. Not to mention There is a gaping hole in the power system that apparently only Kurapica has explored. In a fight, You could basically just make a new vow to create a hatsu on the fly. One that you have vowed to use against this one opponent during this one battle etc. And boom, you have an overpowered ability that will win you that fight. Kurapica vowed to use the chains on just the phantom troop. And look how broken he became. Not to mention a main character who in theory should he capable of crafting many deadly abilities given his aura reserves but spends the series just doing rock paper scissors. I personally think Nen is overhyped. Just my opinion

[@bennybeck]

This a very important video and you speak the truth. So far the only way we 100% know conqueror’s haki is at play is if characters state it or if character’s start fainting. For a while I did use the thickness and length of the lighting trails as an indicator but for all we know that can just be an indicator of the haki’s intensity. I wonder if there is an element that we just aren’t noticing.

[@atmaj4244]

What i feel like the difference between advanced conquerors & advanced armament will be that a master of conquerors will be able to negate devil fruit ablilites like yami yami no mi the teaser of this was when shanks used his wifi haki to threaten greenbull and reverted him in his human form

[@noobdoom]

Mr Morj sir, can you please make the Wano video where you summarize all plot threads that were left unfinished? You said a long time ago that you were in the process of making it

[@midasxint434]

Just making it black lightning consistently and everyone else can only use red lighting would’ve been so much more clean and efficient.

[@CptnCardboard]

I always thought the black lightning was a representation that Haki vs Haki was happening, usually clashing at similarly high levels.

[@itsSmiv]

There are many moments where it's just one person using haki with black lightning though

[@esmile101]

I do think there is 1 way to tell if an attack is an ACoC and that is if people are passing out around the user & attack. Happend with Shanks & i'm pretty sure it happend with Luffy & Kaido's sky splitting moment as well. Doesn't always happen tho because nobody passed out in the Garp scene and that was for sure ACoC

[@leonglitch]

Technically garp could've just used extremely powerful armament but I get your point.

[@ayeekoolaid520]

@@leonglitchvery true but what would be the point of advanced conquerors if you can train your armament to that extent? You can say it’s cope on my end but you will have to convince me very hard that armament can even reach that level to the point that it can compete against top tier conquerors haki. Imo, I think he used advanced conquerors with galaxy impact, galaxy divide and blue hole. Remember what kaido said.

[@ishanabhi4540]

True, though Luffy and Kaido didnt knock anyone out with their clash, there was no fodder on the rooftop at the time. Also, Garp's attack didnt depict fodder being knocked out during the attack, but showed people unconscious afterwards, so its ambiguous in that case

[@GalaxyImpact200]

​@@ishanabhi4540there was a fodder ..on the rooftop ...read chapter 1026 carefully ..at the end u will see a masked girl getting unconscious ...she was a part of both kaido army and cp 0

[@esmile101]

@ayeekoolaid520 I also think he used ACoC with his attacks but fodder didn't pass out. Just an example

[@MrDiggaa]

i know it gets a little technical now, but imo advanced armament doesnt mean your attacks gonna create a gap or something. it is possible to do so, as we saw with luffy "punching" the tree, but i think that was more of a way to learn the ability itself. like he needs to be able to destroy the tree without touching it, so he learns that haki can flow out of his body and into another object/being to do damage. that doesnt mean that if you use adv armament its gonna create a gap, because you still need to put physical force behind it. the main feature of this ability is to damage something internally by letting your haki flow into it, doesnt mean it has to create a gap to do so. as for advanced coc, my headcannon for the gap thing is simply the "amount" of coc you use for the attack. like compare the yonkou clashes (shanks/wb, kaido/bm, wb/roger, luffy/kaido). why did the first 2 not create a gap, but the last 2 did? (i wont take the "it wasnt introduced" argument here lol) shanks/wb: more a demonstration, no real fight. kaido/bm: they actually like eachother, didnt really want to fight. wb/roger: both known to always be over the top, rivals, wb probably enhanced his attack with his fruit -> of course there is a gap. kaido/luffy: life or death situation -> of course there is a gap. and another one: luffy JUST learns the ability -> super excited -> feels super strong but cant really control/channel it the proper way -> all attacks create gaps. later he uses less of it, to still be able to do big damage, but not too much to be worn out after 3 punches. which is a important thing to keep in mind, it probably draws a lot of energy to use these advanced techniques.

[@jotape125]

I don't think so, because we've seen characters using this effect of no contact very regularly like Sentomaru and it's clearly just advanced armament. I don't think advanced conquerors is connected to this effect because we never seen Kaido using the no touching effect despite clearly having advanced conquerors. I think that Luffy and Big Mom decided to use advanced conquerors with Ryuo while Kaido didn't and there's couple of reasons for that; Both Luffy and Big Mom were punching a zoan with very tough scales (Kaido and Page One) and we know that Ryuo is needed to break through those scales. Luffy is also fighting with his bare hands against Kaido's club which is a very spiky weapon, so it works the same way with the scales, you can't just touch that with your bare hands. TL;DR: No touching effect is advanced armament and can be used with advanced conquerors optionally, it's just better to use if you are fighting a zoan or a weapon holder with your bare hands.

[@spudlover96]

This is exactly the video I needed. I’m loving wano and everything but I just stop bothering trying to understand every attack between Kaido and Luffy. Hopefully Oda makes it more clear in the future.

[@TyandOnGoing]

Agreed trying to understand is gonna lead you confused because oda isn't thinking about indicators he just thinking about visual effects and perspective.

[@NeuroLuce]

every time acoc is a acoc kanji is used. that is how you know for sure

[@Victhemighty]

What kanji is that?

[@NeuroLuce]

@@Victhemighty just look at the panel where Luffy clashes with Kaido or where luffy uses advanced coc for the first time that same kanji comes up every time acoc is used

[@Victhemighty]

@@NeuroLuce isnt it used for clashes? What happens when a character who has adcoc like zoro and garp clash with someone who isnt using it?

[@NeuroLuce]

@@Victhemighty No. It is also used when garp uses galaxy impact

[@Kaste11]

Bruh. How is the most definitive clue about advanced Conquerors not even mentioned? It's the lightning trail people. The lighting is drawn like it leaks and follows the movement. Look at all the attacks of Kaido and Luffy after the power up, or Yamato vs Kaido, or Roger vs Whitebeard. Before the attack, the lightning follows the movement of the infused object (fist, sword, leg, scandal, whatever it is). Like paint, being left behind. The infused object leaks black lightning, the character moves and the infused object leaves black lightning trail behind that follows the movement exactly. Armament never had this effect. It was always stationary, black lightning shooting outwards. There was never depicted as a trail following the movement. It's so easy for me to see from day 1 (Roger vs Whitebeard) I am flabbergasted that this is a problem in the community. At least a few people have caught on on Reddit referring to it as trail or leak. How has Morj never seen that explanation? 🤷‍♂

[@kiavashparvizi]

ACoC is not always like a "trail". Look at chapter 1042, Luffy's "Over kong gun" just has normal black lightning. The same with Luffy's Bajrang gun attack. Or Kaido's "Ragnoraku" in chapter 1045. Or Luffy's nameless attack at the end of chapter 1045. They are all ACoC attacks but the black lightning in them doesn't have this "Trail" effect that you are talking about.

[@fishnutz5196]

Has nothing to do with anything about the lightning. The lightning is just a way to show you its a high amount of haki being used. The trails are just there to make that lightning look bigger indicating its a stronger attack.

[@muffinfighter3680]

I hope that Coby's attack was "just" Advanced Armament Haki because destroying that arm shouldn't take Advanced Conqueror's Haki to achieve it. I mean characters in the Dressrosa arc could accomplish it without it. It would also hype up Coby more if it's just Advanced Armament :D

[@MrVijman]

The other option is scary otherwise think about this Oda gave this guy a whole transformation. Like you can look at kid Luffy n be like yep dats Luffy n the same with every other character but with Koby he dun said mask off n keep the hair colour and i bet that flash back gon be glowed up Koby. RIP to ol round face

[@yvesnerona13]

True, that's why I believe that it was a ACOC. Because if that punch is just a ACOA, my boy is about to be the strongest. After all that experience he soak up, the final lesson he learned and the conviction to protect. All the leading up to the punch, the damage, lightning, no touch, yet people still think its just ACOA. lol He will be the "HERO" of all, more than the hero of the marines.

[@Grammulka]

Nah, that's advanced Rokushiki - Nanashiki

[@AnimeLightt]

Bro that is not conqueror haki if he has then my man jinbei does also because he using same attack

[@dantecrottogini529]

10:50 theproblem with this is that the manga is in black and white, Oda doesn't colour it himself

[@ReiseLukas]

I caulk this whole dilemma to one thing.....assume it's just Armament Haki unless the story specifically shows or tells otherwise.

[@Mohamad-m7md]

That’s exactly what it is but one piece fans love the smell of their own farts Meaning they believe their headcanon and will fight you if you disagree

[@ReiseLukas]

@@Mohamad-m7md I've actually change my view on it while thinking more. People have put Haki in three stiff boxes: Observation, Armament and Conquerors. This has caused so many flawed thought trails. I think the truth is these three types of Haki are NOT distinctly separate from each other. Haki is like Chakra, it's based on frequency. There has to be overlap between each type. With this idea of these 3 types being more fluid frequencies than there's not much issues. The trait of attacking without making contact is shared by both Conquerors and Armament, probably because they're close together in frequency. Even Shanks's mysterious Haki feats can be simply explained with this method.

[@Mohamad-m7md]

@@ReiseLukas And another misconspiton or however you write that word Is that people think when a character is fast that it means he must have strong observation haki for some reason

[@ReiseLukas]

@@Mohamad-m7md true

[@disasteromega]

For now the only rule seems to be that when first showcased, the ACOC user will charge an attack with a thick lightning streak tailing it, after that we can assume that most attacks made by that individual is ACOC charged even without that visual effect unless stated otherwise.

[@kiavashparvizi]

Katakuri did the same thing. Luffy did the same thing in WCI. And Ulti did the same in Wano. None of these characters have ACoC.

[@disasteromega]

@@kiavashparvizi I am not talking about the black lightning effect, I am talking about the thick lightning streak tail while the attack was charging, the first time we saw that was in the Oden flashback between Roger and Whitebeard's cloud exploding (instead of just spliting) clash, CH 966.

[@disasteromega]

The next time I think is 1010, between Luffy and Kaido, then 1011 by Big Mom, and I might have missed some, but most times after that (even in the Gear 5th vs Kaido fight) this effect is absent even though the combatants that had it had no reason not to use it at all times. In fact I would argue all of Kaido's attacts were ACOC based, that was how Luffy figured it out that it was possible in the first place, hell I would think that once Big Mom gets serious all her attacks were ACOC based as well, being hit with one does not mean an instant KO either, during roof piece Luffy and Law was both hit with a Thunder Bagua, which should have been a ACOC attack, they just have to be tough and determine enough to power through them.

[@ElijahSasserCollins]

I was defiantly in the group thinking black lighting was an indicator for advanced conq haki. Glad I found this video clears some things up but also sad that there really isn't a consistent indicator.

[@heavenlyweather117]

I remember people saying this since dressrosa lol

[@TOSH0BOUNDpball]

I think conquerors haki is when the raid fails

[@thatguyoverthere2217]

Thank you Morj for voicing this. Because I'm tired of watching content creators spread the narrative that lightning equals advanced conquerors. Truth be told, I think the advance users are able to damage others without contact but we only see both sparks and an impact lines set when it's two ACH users fighting.

[@HeavyDumbbells]

Koby one was definitely advanced conquerors, oda drew the lightning attaching to the fist at charging panel

[@thatguyoverthere2217]

@GreenDurLanSon lightning doesn't mean shit. The scabbards are seen with lightning attacking kaido and they don't have it

[@NoGoatsNoGlory.]

​@@HeavyDumbbellsthis has to be a joke. 😂

[@courtneystern7216]

​@@thatguyoverthere2217At the end of the day they touched kaido didn't they? But did koby touch pizzaro? Did kaido and luffy touch? Did whitebeard and Roger touch?

[@thatguyoverthere2217]

@courtneystern7216 don't use the koby thing. After all, when it's animated you might see it touch then you'll feel stupid for forming that perception of the events.

[@Ace-jw3lb]

Definitely needed this video. You cleared a lot of stuff that people were confused about. Thank you for your efforts.

[@BinaryDood]

ACoC as it was displayed only makes sense to me if it is a combination of Armament and Conqueror's. Why would we go throught the entirety of Ryou only for it to be thrown out in favor of a superior version of Conqueror's, which prior to Wano was never a striking force? Also, if ACoC is really just combination of Conqueror and Armament, that leaves the possibility for other Haki combinations... and since the series will still be running for years, and a lot of the main players are sole Haki users, that means it'll leave the table open for new and interesting types of Haki usage. That Luffy vs Kaido and Roger vs WB is not all that we've seen from the Haki department.

[@solenstyle]

I think you're right, but not the Ryou that creates distance from you and the object. Because as Morj pointed out, lots of the Kaido vs Luffy fight involved them making contact with one another. I think you're right in regards to the idea that Ryou gave Luffy the idea to transfer his conqueror's haki, rather than armament onto his fist/foot/head.

[@BinaryDood]

@@solenstyle yeah, it doesnt solve the inconsistencies Morj raised up. But I think during the fight Luffy didnt REPLACE his Ryou with what we call "ACoC" now, but rather exerted his Conqueror's Haki in combination with what he learned with Ryou. That is what makes more sense, and it would allow it for Conqueror's to still be it's own distinct type of Haki as opposed to muddying the waters with Armament.

[@ishanabhi4540]

Thank you for making this. Its been frustrating over the last few months with everyone claiming that an appearance of no contact necessitates the use of ACOC, completely ignoring everything we learned about ryou

[@Blindbarber699]

Morj perpetuates this misconception all the time though. He constantly mistakes the “no touching” as advanced coc rather than advanced coa

[@Menye_Menye-q4m]

Black Lightning is a distortion in space that occurs when cursed energy is applied within 0.000001 seconds of a physical hit. When a sorcerer is able to achieve this, their cursed energy flashes black, and the destructive power of their strike is equal to a normal hit to the power of 2.5.

[@itsmefmd3791]

Wrong manga bruv

[@pourridge366]

Write that down

[@LoudWaffle]

Morj here's an easy content idea: make this into a series "Dispelling One Piece Myths Believed by the Fans."

[@tristanalain9239]

And this is why I love the added auras for haki the anime started to add in Wano. Not only does it add a nice visual flare, but due to different ways it is colored, shown and used it can help us see what kind of Haki is most likely in use at that instant.

[@SpiderShot07]

7:56 I think you included Ulti with the King's haki users by mistake

[@joshuaamador-coppin155]

Not gonna lie got a big laugh outta me with the EXTREME ADVANCED HEADCANON achievement lmao

[@LnyxBoost]

I know I'm adding to the head canon pile here. But I view Conquerors Haki like an amplifier to whatever armament technique is being used. If there are small sparks and a relatively smaller scale of attack I assume normal armament is being used. If there is an exaggerated black lightning effect and the scale of the attack is larger/more impactful to the target, IF the user of the attack is a conquerors haki user I assume they've added CH to their attack. I just think the no contact is only an aspect of advanced armament and adding Conquerors just makes the no contact visual cue more noticable.

[@DripDSauce]

8:00 I like how he sneaked in “Ulti has CoC”😂 lol I’m here for the Ulti gas

[@joelbrew4386]

Here's my take on the issue - Observation haki serves as a sixth sense that perceives their environment as well as act as a danger sensor. - Advanced observation haki allows the user to perceive the immediate future. - Armament haki grants an invisible armor that protects the user as well as enhancing the power of attacks. - Advanced armament haki allows the user to project their haki out of their bodies for shockwave effects (ryou, the sky stepping technique the marine's use, Rayleigh blocking Marco's foot, the vice admirals deflecting Whitebeard's shockwave). - Every time you see black lightning with any kind of hue around it, someone is using conqueror's haki. - Basic conqueror's haki allows the user to project their willpower which affects beings with weaker spirits and causes them to pass out. Depending on the density of their willpower, it can even affect the environment. - Advanced conqueror's haki allows the user to amplify; *basic armament haki, creating a thicker and more powerful armor that crackles with destructive lightning. * advanced armament haki, generating an explosive shockwave effect

[@RajibDas-cr7xi]

I believe galaxy impact is conquerer's ryou. If you can use conquerer's as armament, you should also be able to use it as ryou.

[@theravenslibrarian6655]

"Extreme advance headcanon" needs to become an attack name.

[@CjNelson16]

Left the same message on a GLR video but it’s relevant here: I’ve gone back and looked and ever since Oda introduced the concept, whenever a character with ACoC uses an attack utilizing said ACoC, on top of the black lightning, there’s a “Zzt” “Zzp” sound effect associated with it. The finale of Zoro vs King, when Luffy first uses it vs Kaido, the latter part of Yamato vs Kaido, and overall Gear 5, when a character uses ACoC, the sound effect is visibly on panel somewhere. Even most recently, both Garp’s Galaxy Impact and Galaxy Divide have the sound effect visible as well while Honesty Impact does not. Im not against Koby having CoC, but I personally don’t think that’s what’s happening in the recent chapter. My observation isn’t definitive at all but just in a story telling sense, I feel like it’d be a bit much to introduce both Koby having CoC and THEN utilizing its advanced form both in the same chapter.

[@ElCocoLocoBarrocoComeMocos]

I don’t see it that way. I agree that black lighting is not only conquerors, that’s pretty obvious and most likely more so signifies high haki output in general. However, in regards to advanced conquerors and armament, what the techniques do and what they should look like is literally in their names. Conquerors “infusion” allows you to, well, infuse (like, from within) conquerors haki into limbs, weapons, etc. and therefore looks like haki lightning “oozing” out of the infused area. Armament “emission” allows you to, well, emit armament haki outside of your body, creating the forcefield blast thingy. That’s why Luffy references Hyogoro in 1049. Clashes like Roger vs Whitebeard, or Luffy vs Kaido, or BM punching Page One are simply using both. For instance, look at chapter 1036 when Kaido hits Luffy in the head. That’s one of the only instances where Kaido connects a hit that has both conquerors infusion and armament emission, and you see how Luffy’s head bends due to the impact, even though the club is not making contact with his head. On the other hand, say the Ragnarok from 1009 (which we know for a fact is conquerors infusion since this is the attack that clues Luffy in on the technique) has the haki lighting oozing out of it but still makes contact with Luffy because it’s only CoC infusion, without CoA emission. Same applies to Kaido killing Luffy in 1042. Why would Oda, knowing this is a visual medium, create the same visual cue for both advanced hakis? I think people confuse that both advanced armament and conquerors can “flow” throughout the user’s body, with both of them working the exact same, which is not the case.

[@95Everan]

This video is SO well made and edited I didn’t skip through the 2 minute and 35 second intro . You did a Awesome job Morj 👏🏾👏🏾! Such an interesting topic man dam ⚡️

[@yahallobenjamin2354]

8:33 except for the fact that he's creating a shockwave by punching the air hard not because of some haki. Coby does the same thing

[@KurokamiNajimi]

I’ve always thought it was King’s Haki+Ryou that causes the no contact element. I’ve also been thinking the Haki Rayleigh, Sentomaru, and the Admirals show isn’t ryou because it was never clearly presented as ryou. Rayleigh explained the invisible type of Haki to Luffy and he oddly never uses it and acted as if ryou was something new to him. In hindsight maybe it’s just because Rayleigh didn’t tell him everything about Haki and intentionally only told him the basics

[@seeda5545]

The difference between advanced Armament, and Advanced CoC is that the first is not touching but the “not touching” is not visible to other people.. While advanced CoC all other characters can visibly see the non-touch clash

[@KyubiCloaks]

The extreme advanced headcannon achievement goes to KOL lol

[@karllorenzobabiano6328]

My head canon still believes all of their attacks are just Armament. Conqueror's apply only when someone wants to impose his will against another. If it's not working, then it's just armament.

[@isaiahthompson2134]

While we're on the subject Whitebeard used Advanced conquerors during marineford. That first punch on akainu after Ace died when WB sneaked him was non-contact (all of WBs gura gura attacks made contact), didnt have the cracks as a visual cue or cause a tremor, and didnt have the auditory cue they use in the anime. I will die on this hill

[@JujuToobootie]

It might've been ACoA Haki or Ryou, and while both ACoA & Ryou were introduced to us post time skip, Oda did have Shanks use CoC haki to scare off a sea king in the beginning of the series. Izou was still the 16th Div. Cmdr. of the WB pirates, and the Oden family had been on his ship for a while. It's not outside the realm of possibility for WB to have been using ACoC thanks to the clashes with Roger & Shanks. But somehow I don't think WB respected Akainu enough to use a named attack. Although the punch in question happened directly after witnessing one of his subordinates/sons die. So he could've been on some "run my fade" time. You've definitely got me thinking. I'm about to have to do some research.

[@unvatoeninternet707]

Whitebeard couldnt use regular conquerors to save ace when ace was about to be executed, it makes no sense that he could use the advanced version of it

[@Zanador]

@@unvatoeninternet707 Whitebeard not being able to knock out the likes of Akainu, Garp, and Sengoku with Conqueror's is not evidence that he didn't have it. One of Whitebeard's crew says at the start of Chapter 570 that Luffy has Conqueror's "just like Whitebeard and Shanks", confirming that Whitebeard had it.

[@Zanador]

@@JujuToobootie It's virtually confirmed that WB had ACoC considering what we see in his clash with Roger. The question is more about whether Oda planned far enough ahead to show that during Marineford.

[@unvatoeninternet707]

@@Zanador ??? When did i say that he meant to knock out akainu?, he tried to knock out the executioners (mr 3 disguised) and he fell to his knee saying he couldnt do "that", then luffy uses his conquerors, thats what i meant, he couldnt use regular conquerors, how would he used advanced conquerors?

[@far0oky0u25]

Good points. I raise you this, Big Momu is still breathing bc she didn't display clear Conquerors against Law and Kid.

[@mugiwararaw]

Unpopular opinion: Oda keeps the power system vague because he wants us to focus on the actual story beats by not having us compare it to other Shonen series.

[@MonkeyDGoat1]

I think the zzt sound effect is an indicator that someone is using it… also the lightning comes off the surface of whatever is hitting. So if I hit you with my palm it comes off my palm

[@hmidlashkham5552]

I believe we're also assuming a greater separation in nature between the types of haki than the story ever suggested. The way I see it is armament haki is the same as conqueror's haki but applied to oneself, whilst conqueror's is exuded outwardly. Strong enough self applied haki can coat the body and hit things without touching, but it's just that, an armor so strong it's some centimeters thick. Conqueror's haki is the character is like weaponized will power sent outwards and in its crude for seems to be exuded radially with no focus. The later times we see it used it can be semi targeted at an area. Advanced conqueror's can be pinpoint released almost like a missile and then also appears as impact being made without physical touch.

[@MorTphyr]

ACoC has always been shown with the ztt sound and fluid haki leakage on the charge of the attack.

[@MrSoloDolo20]

COC is an amplifier for the other haki . By itself it just knocks weaker wills out but with combinations with COA and even COO(which I believe which shanks uses ) it amplifies those techniques to the max . To me the Black lightning represents CoA the thicker lines our shown with the Combo of COC which shows it being amplified.

[@100navat]

This is really the only plausible explanation

[@zex545]

Yeah that would explain why Zoro didn't realize he was using COC on Kaido and thought it was just COA. We can just say he was using COA but he unconsciously amplified it with COC

[@inasinas226]

its cannon the moment he confirm voice of all things is COO+COC

[@moriyoukai2076]

This, I also think that there are two kinds of ACoC The normal coating one, and the advanced no touch one, just like CoA

[@MrSoloDolo20]

@@moriyoukai2076 these are my thoughts exactly . I believe the no touching COC coating happens with a combination of ryou and COC to amplify.

[@tiagomoreira8905]

To me, Conqueror's Haki is just an amplifier. Anything you can do with Armament, Conqueror's Haki can make it stronger. So, if you have Advanced Armament, and then coat it in Conqueror, the effect gets way stronger. If you don't have Advanced Armament, but knows how to coat it with Conqueror, it still produces a stronger impact, but not the no-touch effect. Yamato used Conqueror coating, but was not capable of no-touching because he lacked Advanced Armament. Koby's (and Garp's) attacks seem to use shockwaves like the ones Chinjao and Sai do. If you go back to Dressrosa, you'll see the later ones displaying area-effect feats that spread from the point of contact. Chinjao used to split open the ice sheet where his treasure was. Sai caused severe area damage over the King's Plateau in his final strike against Lao G. Chinjao didn't have Conqueror coating, and Sai isn't even a Conqueror (as far as we know). Their fighting style, Hasshoken, is said to produce shockwaves that seem a lot like Advanced Armament haki, so I guess that's what you need to produce such strong AoE effects.

[@Eric-hb5dn]

never thought about it before, but specific sfx for hakis i could imagine

[@peltycrikts6990]

I agree, the black lighting being inconsistent has always been by point, i just honestly use againt others bad logic about it.

[@JK_073]

I’m glad more ppl are coming around about Big Mom using acoc in her fight against Kid and Law. It doesn’t need to be drawn all the time, especially ranged attacks.

[@cvox607]

What's funny is that advanced conqueror haki is a fanmade term and was never mentioned in canon

[@dripg0djv280]

The name itself yes The application no. Luffy clearly asks kaido if he’s coating himself in conquerors and he clearly says this is the case

[@Shanks......]

I know right, There must be a huge application of advanced conq. Haki it just feels lacking if only used as armanent haki ++

[@flatutlencetheunending]

there is a level 2 of each haki, ie advanced. not hard to understand

[@allaction7816]

This video was much needed. Oda has shown multiple times that just becuz there's black/blue/red lightning upon impact/contact does not mean it's conquerors less alone advanced conquerors haki. Even fine tuned armament or armament in general can produce that effect by itself. Although it's also true that Oda hasn't explained anything in detail which leads to a lot of confusion and debate but yeah, ppl need to stop putting everything under conqurors since that makes no sense.

[@Mohamad-m7md]

and I’m sick of every random character having kings haki If Sanji doesn’t have it lower level characters like Koby definitely DON’T have it

[@0Arcoverde]

@@Mohamad-m7md koby was the first invited person to Luffy crew Koby is not low level and he already have conquerors Haki since marineford when he freaked out

[@Mohamad-m7md]

@@0Arcoverde I’m saying he’s weaker than Sanji right now And I don’t know wtf you’re talking about When you say Koby has kings haki at marineford

[@AnimeLightt]

​@@0Arcoverdebro are you stupid he one use observation haki not coc

[@Howcaneyelose]

The true explanation of Haki is it’s whatever Oda needs it to be for the plot or to make a cool dramatic moment, soon characters will be able to shoot Haki blasts like ki in DBZ

[@Adex767]

Another YTuber I’ve watched pointed to a specific katakana SFX that tends to show up in the second before COC attacks are thrown

[@alathreon8315]

I think I have a better explanation about why is it so confusing : when luffy hits kaido and law said "he's not even touching him", I think that was mainly advanced armament haki that we see, but luffy might also use conqueror haki. And for the clash between yonkos, the clash of black thunder that appear between the hit is specifically when there is a clash between two attacks with conqueror haki, so conqueror haki isn't about not touching, it's just that when there is a clash, such a thing happens, and so this is why luffy and kaido hit each other like that at the end.

[@guden0991]

i believe that haki attacks never really touch, that its a very thin armor, but it can get so big with enough haki that you can see the gap

[@mecoalford4248]

Oda need to explain in a sbs what is the visual for conquerors haki and the difference with armament haki, what is a conquerors haki clash different from two intense armament clash that brings lightning effects

[@bigt100]

9:32 during that attack there was only separation but no intense black lightning there was only a small slither of lightning going in his hand so to me that looks like advanced arnament when I see advanced conquerors i see a clear separation plus reddis black lighting together

[@maxwellkowal3065]

Going a step further, perhaps ACoC works like a magnetic field and closer contact with an individual means it's hurting them more. Or maybe it amplifies ACoA. Although there's issues with all of those takes as well.

[@sonnyd9703]

Mr. Morj doing the homework for all of us

[@marcusfrazier4923]

This is what you're going to get when you don't flesh out your power system.

[@gemodemplay415]

I think is way simpler than that. As you said, when Oda shows lightning he shows strong haki. Usually Armement Haki. When Oda says it is advanced Conqueror's then it is advanced Conqueror's. The rest are details.

[@theseeker7692]

There are like 2 examples of non-CoC users creating thick lightning (Ulti and Scabbards) and in both cases it is still noticably less thick than many CoC uses, to thick lightning is a pretty good indicator and very thick one (similar to Roger vs WB) is basically confirmation. We have never seen curved ligthning following user's limb except for ACoC users, so it is a very strong indicator as well. This one is something we are yet to see fully, but we have only seen strong black streaks (NOT ligthning) 3 times in the series: 1) Roger vs Whitebeard (by far the biggest example) - confirmed ACoC clash 2) Luffy unlocking ACoC 3) Kuzan and Garp punching each other. If it is confirmed latter two are ACoC users or the next time we see black streak is in a ACoC again, it is a pretty strong indicator as well.

[@Emperor-Inker]

This means that Big Mom probably was using advanced conquerors haki against Law & Kid during their fight. Which makes more sense as it didn't seem like she was using any haki minus when she was punching law with armament hakim right at the end

[@Ganjas_21]

I truly believe that Advanced conquerors is just a passive state where you just coat yourself with your conquerors haki and upgrade your other categories as well, Kaido said that only a few of the strongest can coat themselves with conquerors, so he introduces us to a state where your conquerors just coats yourself and boosts your other haki powers. We know that conquerors haki can faint people with weaker will and "conquer" them so what if shanks can negate observation haki because he fuses his obs haki with conquerors haki, armament haki could work the same so if you fuse your conquerors haki with armament haki you double your dmg output and also double your defenses and becoming a tank like Kaido, making you completely immune to other weaker conqueror haki users, thats why only the strongests achieve this state of power.

[@RedYDG]

I can't wait to see all the black lightning flying from somebody using advanced future sight.

[@tonileo4086]

I think black lightning as an indicator for aCoC used to be inconsistent but now is. some conclusions I made: -charging up black lightning and then attacking is pretty much guaranteed to be aCoC. only once, and that was before the big aCoC reveal with luffy, had oda been inconsistent with that by making ulti do it. she is the inconsistency and the exception to the rule and not the rule itself -oda used black lightning way way rarer after its big reveal when luffy first started using it. he only used it for actual aCoC users and the only exception and inconsistency I can remember was BB emanating black lightning with a quake attack on law's submarine. so again, only one actual exception, other than that it was nearly 100% accurate as an indicator after its big reveal with luffy. most of your examples come from before the big aCoC reveal. Imo oda did exactly what you said he does, use black lightning as an indicator for any strong haki attack. but I think he then got his shit together and started doing it in a more orderly fashion already from the yamato vs kaido fight and especially from luffy using aCoC and onwards. after that there have only been very very few inconsistencies and as some kind of argument that oda does that sometimes (change plans midways when it comes to abilities), remember king blocking dragon rope twister with his wings? lol. clearly oda had some other kit for king in mind, but sometime later he just changed plans and created the lunarian defense mode that makes king invincible to most attacks. if oda had the final version of king in mind from the beginning, then he wouldn't have king just randomly feel the need to block a non-aCoC attack from zoro while having his flame on and when it comes to koby, he clearly was using aCoC. the black lightning on his fist is an indicator there too, but the bigger indicator here is that he was doing the same thing garp did with galaxy divide (and most agree on that being aCoC). so unless you think that koby achieves the same firepower as garp with aCoC does with just advanced armament and physical strength, then yeah, koby was using aCoC and imo, in this video you did something that was really damn stupid (which doesn't happen often): you went ahead and did some destruction-scaling. THAT is the single most inconsistent thing when it comes to scaling in one piece. you say freaking chinjao achieved something similar to what koby did just now. naaaahhhhh bruh. let's just go with some simple examples, let's take kid's corna dio, BM, and dressrosa (the arc where we pretty much had the most "feats" of large-scale destruction). 1. kid breaks BM's bones with corna dio. 2. BM blocks a second corna dio with the tower that was stuck on her back. so, kid's corna dio failed to break through a damn tower and damage BM. but BM herself had her bones broken by corna dio. tower>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BM when it comes to durability? let's continue 3. zoro cut huge amounts of stone several times obvious example is his trichioclism, but his 1080 pound cannon also cut through a large potion of a giant pica which is more than just a single tower. so: pica>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>tower>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BM in durability and dressrosa zoro>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BM>>>>>>>>>>>>>wano kid in strength cuz he should clearly be able to easily cut her in half according to the simple conclusions above right? another example with BM, kaido and luffy and the skulldome. kaido smashed that bowl hat guy with his club downwards to the ground aka the rooftop of the skulldome. there was generally rubble falling from the rooftop all the time during luffy vs kaido, but it never broke. except when luffy broke it with gear 5 when he grabbed kaido and when BM first used hera and blasted a hole through it. so: luffy's gear 5th physical strength (without any haki)=BM first using hera (attack name was fulgora)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ALL the aCoC attacks of kaido, luffy and yamato that hit the ground aka rooftop of the skulldome combined as they never broke through the skulldome. and above all of them stands law who punched a hole through the ground of onigashima and wano main land. but shouldn't have such an attack easily one-shot BM then? she got her bones broken from an attack that couldn't even destroy a single tower after all lol. you cannot compare any "destruction feats" from anywhere to those in dressrosa cuz oda just went crazy there. again, you compare koby and chinjao when you should compare koby and garp. koby's honesty impact was on the same level of power as garp's galaxy divide. so koby definitely did use aCoC there and the attack was really powerful there since it was as powerful as garp's. yes, chinjao and zoro both had better desruction feats, but that was in dressrosa. if we say destruction feats are consistent, then dressrosa zoro is way above BM and garp for example and we know that that ain't right. even old garp easily defeats all the SHs at dressrosa, especially considering that a way stronger luffy that beat katakuri got one-shot by kaido with a single aCoC attack. considering that koby too can now make a single very powerful aCoC attack that also has insane range, he too could have possible OHKO'd luffy during the 1st act in wano. while chinjao or zoro obviously can't do that and only comparing koby and chinjao is just dishonest imo considering that koby achieved similar firepower to garp's galaxy divide. so if you think that chinjao did something as good as koby did just now, then you also must think that chinjao with his OG head shape is on par with garp and his (most likely aCoC) galaxy divide (obviously you don't lol) don't go into destruction scaling, especially not into comparisons with anything that happened in dressrosa. rather compare koby's honesty impact to the destruction feats that are in the same chapter than with some inconsistent dressrosa stuff from over 8 years ago

[@NoGoatsNoGlory.]

I ain't reading allat

[@LegalizeBilly]

I can’t wait to see buggy use his advanced conquerors haki

[@aminazfar5768]

No touching and split sky is the clearest indicator. Other time when attacks are touching mean adv CoC not used. If you know it doesn't mean using it everytime since Kaido eg. Can still be hurt with only just Adv CoA

[@flackenstien]

Black lightning is from whenever any Haki clashes, regardless of type. You just see more of it when Conqueror's users are involved, since they tend to also emmit that on top of Armament.

[@brotherbearvalter]

I think the Haki lightning is just something Oda likes to add because its cool. Its just showing Haki clash. Nothing more

[@Chrymzon]

My headcannon is that black lightning comes from people tapping into Conqueror's or Advanced Conqueror's, but are just unaware of it. Similar to how Luffy was unconsciously using it pretimeskip.

[@Relax_Rombey]

nah lmao, allot of people that def aren’t conquerors tapped into it

[@Chrymzon]

@@Relax_Rombey but everyone has observation and armament and tap into it unconsciously all the time, don't see why conqueror's wouldn't be the same.

[@Mohamad-m7md]

You must of not watched the video then the whole reason this video exists is to debunk comments like yours Black lighting doesn’t equal kings haki

[@Chrymzon]

@@Mohamad-m7md You must not know how to read. I'm explaining my own thoughts, not Morj's. If Morj doesn't believe black lightning is Conqueror's that's fine, but he isn't Oda. I simply don't agree with him.

[@Mohamad-m7md]

@@Chrymzon You don’t have to agree it’s a fact watch the video there’s a couple of examples of black lighting appearing with characters that don’t have kings haki so it’s not just an opinion you’re factually wrong

[@sandwich3770]

8:00 ulti has conquerors haki?

[@churabros3321]

honestly, my unpopular opinion is that i like how vague it all is, it makes haki abit more mysterious and leaves room for lots of theory crafting as to how ACH will be used in the future

[@magilla_gorilla]

Thanks for this video Morj!