WHY AHSOKA IS A 'BETTER' STAR WARS SHOW! AHSOKA REVIEW | Double Toasted

[@Xenokaji]

I’d have to disagree. The “dream sequence” that Ahsoka is going through is because it’s character development. She ended up in the world between worlds because of her deep connection to Morai ( the goddess of the light side of the force) Anakin’s final lesson to her was to have the Will to survive, to live, to become more. Anakin transitioning from light side to Vader was done splendidly. Anakin was testing her resolve and allowed her to beat him. It was very poetic.

[@elsacristina9]

She is NOT in the WBW because it is not how someone can go to WBW and it is funny that you Disney idiots have the tendency to forget other shows. Do you remember what Ezra need to do to reach the WBW? Or it is convenient for you to forget that little detail. So NO she was not in the WBW, she was underwater the WHOLE TIME and Dave Filoni, who always suck by the way, did this just to justify why his wet dream is not dead after spending so many hours underwater.

[@Cornwallis7]

I'm overdue for a revisit to Rebels as it pertains to Ashoka specifically, but did you not find it kind of weird that she started in this series needing that lesson? She seemed almost like inert before this last episode to me.

[@tron9683]

And it wasn't just some "dream sequence", where it took place is something that was already established in Rebels. I understand why it would bother Martin, but his issue with it is based around material that's already been shown, and not just some cheap device.

[@comm154]

I still don't get where this conflict even comes from. Yes, its a good lesson to learn, but its completely unprompted by the previous events in the series and even beyond that. When was Ahsoka ever contemplating the idea of giving up? If anything she has more of a reason now to keep going; she's conquered and outlived her demons in the form of Vader, she's learned the truth of Anakin's fall and accepted that, as well as having already learned she's more than a some soldier. She's had all these arcs before. When she quit the Order, she came to realize being a Jedi isn't just war and death, they're meant to be peacekeepers and not warriors. Her discovering Anakin became Vader had her come to terms with the fate of Anakin, removing him from the idolized place she kept him in her mind. Moreover, was this Anakin? Cause I genuinely can't tell. I don't remember the World Between Worlds being established as the Force netherworld so-to-speak. So is that even Anakin's Force Ghost? Why would Anakin be so surprised she still thinks of him as Vader in some aspects? His, "Is that what this is about?" comes off as though she's in the wrong for thinking of him as Vader, when Vader IS him. Plus the dialogue in some parts... "Time to die." DAVE PLEASE, I know you can write so what the hell is this?! This is some of the most generic lines in all of dialogue. It'd have been better if Anakin was just quiet, since the silence would at least create some tension rather than making me cringe at that god-awful line.

[@imvellyy]

the coolest thing about ahsoka is her character was dismissed at first in the first clone wars movie. then she slowly but surely gained the love from fans as the tv series went on and proved itself to be solid as an star wars weve seen. JUST Like the prequels. its so freaking beautiful and i dont see alot of people mentioning that cool coincidence

[@banquetoftheleviathan1404]

This is actually very common with media as it ages and gets time tested, new generations grow up with it as their nostalgia. It's why I don't hate on new generations, I treat them as more content. Esp when it comes to cartoons. Like tmnt imo gets better every iteration, or al least its never a subtraction.

[@thedefinitionisthis]

Eh, to be fair tho… Ahsoka wasn’t written particularly well when she first debuted (possibly by design). She became more beloved as the character herself grew and evolved, and we spent more time with her. The show itself also improved greatly as it went on. The prequel movies never really got all that better. I think it’s just that the kids who loved it as kids, and have a fondness for it, have all grown up and started singing their praises despite the obvious flaws, much like fans of the original trilogy did. The prequels themselves never “got better” as they went along. Ahsoka as a character, however, very much did.

[@khalduras784]

@@thedefinitionisthis Pretty much. The Prequel movies didnt get "better" quality wise but the Prequel "Era" as in the world the Prequels introduced has since improved tremendously thus making it much better received.

[@thedefinitionisthis]

@@khalduras784THAT, I agree. I always hate when people say that stuff like “The Clone Wars” makes the prequels better. No, it doesn’t. A TV series doesn’t excuse poor direction, poor acting and poor writing of a movie series. The Prequel ERA is certainly given a new lease on life for sure. The Prequel MOVIES are still poor to mediocre movies that failed to do what the TV series succeeded in.

[@nexusaquarion9281]

Because the show and the clones were the main characters

[@Nasser851000]

Ahsoka is doing much better than Book of Boba Fett and Obi Wan XD

[@1994moviebuff]

Right in the middle for me. Mando and Andor are a lot better but it’s still early

[@Mech45pro]

I agree and disagree Obi-Wan was a good show and same with boba fett however you just don't understand the direction.

[@Peer165]

​@@Mech45proBoth Obi-Wan Kenobi and The Book of Boba Fett had terrible direction.

[@ecantalk]

I haven’t seen Andor yet but I’m definitely enjoying this more than the Mandalorian.

[@thelodownshow313]

True

[@DannsProductions]

Anakin was an integral part of her story; she was traumatized when he turned into Darth Vader. Who else would she remember while she's battling for her life?

[@matiasdevaglia4541]

The major flaw I see in Ahsoka, appart from some pacing issues in the first couple of episodes, is that you really need to watch Clone Wars and specially Rebels to have the necessary context to fully understand it, enjoy it and have an emotional connection with it. Yes, you can fill in most of the gaps, but it's not the same. If you watched those animated series, then Ahsoka is perhaps the best Star Wars content of the last decade.

[@JWillCHS]

This is how I feel! I think there will be some new Ahsoka fans but this requires ALOT to truly understand what’s going on or to have a connection with these characters. For all the time wasted and the slow pace of the show I don’t understand why they couldn’t fit in a few live actions scenes of the past over the first two episodes.

[@478Johnnyboy]

Thats why im not watching Ashoka just yet. I’m slowly going through rebels right now to understand. I don’t want to see Ashoka until i do

[@JohnnyZenith]

Andor is clearly the best.

[@armyzenn]

Facts !!

[@radioactivetrees9626]

Pacing is so slow I felt like nothing happened in those first 3 episodes

[@johnalexander1769]

You don't have to see the animated stuff but you can miss so much by not. Like episode 5 felt like a love letter to the watchers of those shows. Even just in those flash backs. Seeing Ashoka cutting down Darth Mal's death watch mandolarians and clone troopers with the orange Ashaka helmets. Casuals wouldn't catch those details

[@tristanmilner9511]

The same casuals that missed the Kanan Jarrus name drop and failed to understand it's significance.

[@AndreNitroX]

Well said, while a competent show should apply to everybody, this show is about legacy and emotions so when you see moments from clone wars or rebels you feel something that a newbie won’t feel.

[@theFILMaDDICT16]

I feel like you do have to watch the shows in order to have deep connections with some of the moments in the show. The people who dislike it don't have that connection. This show is meant to be tailor-made for those who grew up with Dave Filoni's content. Hopefully, they will explain more about Ezra and why Thrawn is such a big threat to the main characters.

[@Supherodude]

I would say you have to watch Rebels to really enjoy Ahsoka. You could watch Ahsoka on its own but you won’t have the same emotional investment.

[@davemac9563]

Remember when Star Wars was for everybody? I guess not anymore.

[@armyzenn]

Ashoka is really a reward for Clone wars and Rebels fans. If you watched those shows the stuff in Ahsoka hits on a different level. Dave Filoni really gets these characters and world better than most

[@matthewjordan7297]

Pretty fair review all things considered. The show is not without its issues, but I thought the last couple of episodes worked pretty well. Hayden Christiansen had a fantastic turn in ep 5. I also really enjoyed the ending of episode 5. Star Wars can be plenty dark and gritty, but in the end, it needs to remain hopeful at its core. The end of episode 5 captured that.

[@DFTNSHEXGRM]

Why can’t they give Obi Wan and Anakin this treatment? The biggest problem with their relationship is I never felt like they were best friends or bothers - they just told us. The more I watch Ashoka the more I realize just how terrible the writing was in Obi Wan. I never even watched Rebels or any of that and I felt the emotion between Anakin and Ashoka here.. I never felt that between Obi Wan & Anakin.

[@qdaddy9935]

Watch the Clone Wars show.

[@Montesama314]

I would probably say the Clone Wars show has interactions between Obi Wan, Anakin, and Ahsoka that make you get their bonds. If there is anything I could compare the guys to offhand, it's Batman and Nightwing; still a mentor looking at his former student, but they are clearly less formal and Anakin gets to take the reigns. They're more like bros than father and son or teacher and student. Similar feelings are with Anakin and Ahsoka as she's given more leadership roles and independence. There is even an episode late in the series where Anakin thinks Obi is dead and is ready to start wrecking some fools (involving a deep cover mission). There is definitely love there.

[@DFTNSHEXGRM]

@@Montesama314I know but that’s not my point. My point is, I shouldn’t have to watch a whole cartoon series to understand the bond between Obi Wan & Anakin. They failed to do that in the prequels and in the Obi Wan series. Yet here, I get Ashoka & Anakin’s relationship in a few scenes when I’ve never watched Rebels. I’m speaking on a difference in writing between the Ashoka show and Obi Wan show.

[@brandongriffin9675]

@@Montesama314I think what they’re saying is they put more effort in portraying the relationship between Ashoka & Anakin in just a few scenes than they ever did in the Obi Wan or Prequels. I have to agree.. sure the Clone Wars is a thing but that’s just a band aid on the wound, and Obi Wan was another chance to fix this issue and they failed yet again.

[@tiniestavenger6329]

Because Deborah Chow directed a great episode of Mandalorian(she didnt write it) and fans all over were begging for Lucasfilm to give her a trilogy of movies. They gave her the Obi Wan show and well, we saw how that turned out.

[@trembledust6819]

I kinda get what Martin is saying with Anakin appearing but I'd say if you knew the lore between the World between Worlds and like Kory (sorry for misspelling if applicable) the connection between padwan and master...it will make more sense. Also Ahsoka always blamed herself for Anakin becoming Darth Vader because she left him. What was shown in the show is closure for that for her. Frees her somewhat of that guilt. U can see her dermeter changed right after she returned. She was more upbeat as if some sort of weight was lifted from her. I'd argue if she didnt go through that experience she would not have thought to use the purgil to follow Baylan and company to the next galaxy. In regards to Kory (again apologies for misspelling if applicable) the appearance of Luke to scoop up Grogu to train him opens up more the lore of Luke starting his own Jedi school which has not been explained in past Star Wars movies / shows to date. It kinda connects to when he was training Solo's son. So I'd say for that reason not just ANY Jedi could of appeared at the end of season 2 only for the reason of more insight into Luke's school. if they just didnt want to explore that aspect yea pretty much almost any Jedi appearing would have been cool. To each their own opinions. No shade at all. Thanks for vid!

[@OrionInSpace]

For me Andor and Ahsoka are the prime examples of truly great Star Wars television. Certain fans can say Andor is "not" Star Wars all they want but at the end of the day it's Star Wars just like how Ahsoka is Star Wars. If I were to hand off the rains of who controls Star Wars to it would be Tony Gilroy and Dave Filoni. That will never happen because they are creatives at the end of the day. They like to make the shows and movies.

[@KalvinPatel]

Exactly how I feel 💯🔥

[@tomoates8568]

I like Andor as a character, but I only actually enjoyed a couple of the episodes. For the most part it was just too slow, it was a chore for me to get through lol. I love Ahsoka, and loved the Mandalorian as well

[@OrionInSpace]

@@tomoates8568 idk I personally disagree it was slow I think it too its time more than it was slow

[@JohnnyZenith]

Absolutely andorr and this show are both fantastic. Andor is more accomplished, but they're both good and perform different roles.

[@JohnnyZenith]

​@tomoates8568 Fair enough that's absolutely a valid point of view but I don't understand it myself. Rich purposeful and massively made.

[@Nasser851000]

0:00 RIP Ray Stevenson

[@oolong2]

Anakin appearing was no more of a "cheap device" than Vader appearing to Luke on Dagobah. Ahsoka and Anakin have had a long relationship so if anyone was going to appear and guide her, it would be him. If you haven't seen the Clone Wars and Rebels it might seem just seem like fan service, but it actually makes a lot of sense for the story.

[@earthsongeb]

This show reminded me of why I fell in love with starwars in the first place. I don't hate all of the newer movies but this is what the sequel trilogy should've been. God I hope Filoni has some involvement with the next starwars movies. They really need to bring in people who actually care about the universe and the characters.

[@hamhockbeans]

The sequels should have been Ashoka and Luke story. Closing out both stories.

[@earthsongeb]

​@@hamhockbeansI agree, but I didn't necessarily have an issue with the idea of having new characters take the lead, but with how horribly Rey and Finn were handled, it's making me wish that they did go that route.

[@tiniestavenger6329]

Hes directing a Star Wars movie to wrap up the "Mandoverse"

[@MrPuzzles]

@@tiniestavenger6329 Rumor is, that movie might be turning into a trilogy. Disney execs *really* like Ahsoka, and the show is pulling in big enough numbers to curb Disney+'s recent struggles a bit.

[@epcarter6]

Just because you don’t like some of the content doesn’t mean the people involved with making don’t care, come on now.

[@CrackKwonDo]

I was waiting for Martin to raise an eyebrow at “Christian Haydensen” 😂

[@usernameissean]

The dream like place they were in was the world between worlds. Ashoka has been there before and it played a part in Rebels. I really liked that she got to meat up with Anakin/Vader.

[@lucascassol2995]

Damn shame Martin hasn’t gone through the highlights of Clone Wars and Rebels. The bests arcs of the Clone Wars are really peak Star Wars, doesn’t mean I don’t get the potential criticism of alienating viewers who haven’t invested a significant amount of time into previous series, it’s perfectly valid. It just makes this show and even the prequels so much better.

[@EdwardSanchezProductions]

Dave Filoni did a great job with directing and writing episode 5

[@marshsundeen]

Ahsoka is the 5th season of the Rebels series, which is set after The Clone Wars. While Hera and Chopper were in The Clone Wars as kids, she is an adult in Rebels.

[@alefunzouzzle4049]

Clone Wars, and Rebals were excellent. Ahsoka show is great because of them. Her character is an established one. Episode 5 shows the PTSD of a kid being raised and trained in war. Outstanding series.

[@FoxCastleChild]

You talked mostly Clone Wars, but this show is basically a big budget, live-action version of Rebels Season 5. You can probably watch it and understand it without seeing Rebels, but you will get a lot more mileage from watching Rebels first and having a connection to these characters and story arcs.

[@van.f1087]

You’d have to watch not just Clone Wars, but Rebels as well. 2 shows to have that real connection to these characters😂.

[@blackmcbain3145]

One of my favorite aspects of rhe show is the duality. Anakins training and the bearded guys dialogue highlights the balance of the force, neither fully jedi nor fully sith as those orders have fully collapsed after the empire strikes back. That Ahsoka must strike that balance to succeed.

[@Cornwallis7]

The resistance people have to watching The Clone Wars and Rebels kind of kills me. It's not like there aren't episodes to skip, but the stuff they do with a lot of characters is *so* good. Maul's arch is almost as long and compelling as Ahsoka's. Anakin, Asaaj Ventress, Grievous, the clones themselves, especially Rex and Fives, Obi-Wan, young Boba Fett, Mace Windu, Palpatine, Padme--all get some really cool stuff to do!

[@Nasser851000]

I love they brought David Tennant back to play Huyang ;)

[@reglavcor]

Kory is incorrect. ''Ahsoka'' is more of a continuation of ''Star Wars:Rebels''. Not Clone Wars.

[@anotherfacelesscomment989]

The Clone Wars flashbacks in Ahsoka was her Rocky montage

[@kicknowledgesmith8608]

I'm loving the show, sadly many badly want it to fail so they can have content.

[@JohnnyZenith]

Those individuals thrive on the hate. They will appear on each other's shows. They all placate and reinforce each other's views. They're all right wing to the point where anything to the left of them even if it's moderate and balanced is wrong. They can make some really good points often but then fall off the ideological cliff.

[@Arander92]

@@JohnnyZenithYup. Pretty much. And I often agree with their points, like you said, but it’s clear at this point they WANT to hate this stuff, regardless of quality. Hell, half of them tried to shit on ANDOR!! And they’re all trying to convince themselves that no one is watching Ashoka. The quality doesn’t matter anymore. The only they care about is the fact that KK is still at Lucasfilm

[@JohnnyZenith]

@@Arander92 This.

[@seanbinkley7363]

Full agreement. And love the other comments here too. I feel as if some of this anti-woke bandwagoning may be falling off now. The Barbie Movie well overperformed at the box office despite having a strong feminist social message and anti-woke review apparatus online trashing it. I haven't actually seen as much cringey anti-SJW hate going Ahsoka's way compared to Obi-wan for example. I'm hoping more people are waking up to how much of a grift and dog whistle those sorts of reviews are. As someone else said here, these reviewers want to hate this material because they done well getting eyeballs on their content because of it so far.

[@c.s3369]

Well this comment aged well 😅

[@daweithisisdavidinmandarin6121]

The late Ray Stevenson, RIP, has brought out something alluring about Lord Baylan Skoll. I think you are totally right about the word dignity and sadly or happily, Feloni has made the villains thoughtful and interesting. My problem with this series is that the villains are better than the main characters. Ahsoka, the character needs to step it up. Rosario Dawson is a well beloved actress but I dont think that is being transmitted to the show and that is down to flaws in the characterization. Thank you Ray Stevenson!

[@deanthemachine8879]

Probably the biggest difference between Andor and Ahsoka isn’t about lightsabers and The Force; it’s the difference in dialogue. It’s so frustrating because Filoni has the Lucas gift interesting ideas, but also the Lucas curse of writing dialogue that makes all the characters sound like they are on sedatives to treat a brain injury. Just clunky as fuuuuuuuuuuuck. He needs a good script doctor or script writer to handle his story and his stuff could be SO much better

[@Montesama314]

The Clone Wars series made me like Anakin. And, besides the whole "how did he survive?" bit, I liked Maul in that show too.

[@matthewtarpley7613]

Korey, if you do ever watch some episodes of The Clone Wars, check out the final story arc from Season 7. It occurs right before and during Revenge Of The Sith, it shows Ahsoka when Order 66 occurred. Very good story arc.

[@narutobullock]

There is nothing wrong with giving the fans what they want. Enjoy the story and have fun with it.

[@ChristianHallenbeck2002]

Everything is wrong with that. Especially when you have a fanbase as awful as THIS one that doesn’t deserve it. This is not a good show.

[@narutobullock]

@@ChristianHallenbeck2002 Name one spin-off from a long-running franchise that does not pander to the fans lol. It was done in Star Trek, Stargate, and Battle Star. And who are you to determine what a show deserves lol.

[@spicymemes7458]

​@@ChristianHallenbeck2002you are getting mad at people enjoying something, touch grass

[@ChristianHallenbeck2002]

@@narutobullock It’s simple. Those franchises mostly seem to do it well and have better fanbases.

[@ChristianHallenbeck2002]

@@spicymemes7458 Let’s test this… The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars movie. Let’s watch people get mad.

[@bjtight98]

Ahsoka's stoicism is explained in Ep 5......at the end of the episode u see her smile n be more light-hearted.

[@anthonyhudak9363]

What I really enjoy about this show and why I put it up there with the first 2 seasons of Mandalorian is the fact that while there are certain tropes associated with Star Wars present, this show clearly has a vision. In fact I'd argue outside the original trilogy, the animated Clone Wars and Rebels gave such high highs as a Star Wars fan because Filoni knows that there's more to Star Wars than just blowing up a planet destroyer. Also Martin's complaint about the reason Ahsoka and Anakain reunited wasn't just her being near death, she actually went to another realm that was established in Rebels. The whales were also introduced in Rebels and they heavily played a role in the Rebels finale

[@Montesama314]

I said myself that the big thing holding the sequel trilogy back was a lack of cohesive vision. The movies didn't necessarily need the same director on all three movies, but they definitely needed someone to set out FROM THE START where the heck things were going. It's one reason that people were hooked on the MCU Infinity Saga: even if there wasn't a movie or character you loved, you still had something in the distance to look forward to.

[@AndreNitroX]

Well said for the last 40 years Star Wars had such rich lore and worldbuilding that went beyond the OG trilogy. Disney wasn’t able to grasp that and tried to repeat what already worked without adding anything. Filoni understands the Star Wars universe is alive and can still grow

[@Ramen_Hibachi]

My Star Wars Tv Show Rankings 1.Andor 2.Ahsoka 2.Acolyte 3.Clone Wars 4.Rebels 5.Tales of the Jedi 5. Visons 6.Mandoloiran 7.Obi Wan 8.Bad Batch 9.Book of Boba Fett 10.Resistance

[@hinatatheestallion]

The Acolyte hasn’t come out yet lol

[@JohnnySturdivant]

He’s been to the future thats why Acolyte on the list

[@caldervanegas240]

acolyte isn't even out yet

[@Ramen_Hibachi]

@@caldervanegas240 I already know it’s good

[@Ramen_Hibachi]

@@JohnnySturdivant I did

[@purgatorygodmisterjay]

"We all made fun of him but he was right!" 😂😂😂😂😂😂 I couldn't agree more.

[@terrencewilliams4355]

Just FYI people who are new coming into this because Koreys information is off, this is a Star Wars Rebels continuation not Clone Wars. Clone Wars is if your curious about Ashokas origins and background where Rebels is where your getting these Chrs context or direction.

[@notmephisto1375]

I mean it's all connected

[@jrojas2520]

In my opinion, Ahsoka is the best Star Wars show since the Mandalorian. It is so goood!!!!!

[@JokermanUno]

I dunno how folks say the flashback didnt advance the plot when the show is literally about the burdens of being a mentor/padawan.

[@Doc141]

Ahsoka does have a difficult job with all the background it brings from Clone Wars and Rebels. Episode five is really interesting to me from a writing standpoint because for someone who's seen Clone Wars it was definitely great to see that in live action, but for someone who hasn't seen those shows, this episode gives a bit of backstory and context to Ahsoka's character and her inner struggles.

[@the_sync_lorde_5330]

That Luke Skywalker moment works because Luke is the one powerful enough to have Grogu reach out to him

[@tiniestavenger6329]

Which made no sense because it amounted to absolutely nothing because they walked the whole thing back in their very next appearance

[@tomramos9318]

It's simple, that's Filoni's baby and he tried to impose her in the Lucasverse for a very longtime...he does actually care that his projects are done correctly the same for "Happy" and his Mando s1 and s2. However, the legacy characters do not seem to receive the same treatment or care (Obiwan, Boba, Luke in the sequel trilogy etc...)

[@techinrl9869]

To be fair, it was George Lucas who invented the character of Ahsoka. Lucas brought up one day that Anakin needed a padawan and Filoni was saying, "What? Anakin doesn't have a padawan." It's not Dave's fault that Ahsoka played such a large role in Star Wars animated and parts of what's current. Lucas pushed it. Filoni ran with it. Remember that Lucas was working side-by-side with Filoni throughout the first six seasons of Clone Wars and was only not involved in Season 7 because he had sold Star Wars by then. If anyone pushed Ahsoka into the Lucasverse, it was George Lucas.

[@BloodlessWolf]

Judging Ahsoka harshly because you don't know what happened in Rebels and Clone Wars is kinda like judging Endgame harshly because you didn't watch all the other Marvel movies.

[@thedefinitionisthis]

💯💯💯

[@da_qbic]

You can jump into endgame halfway through and be like "I have no idea who this is, what this is, why this person and people are doing that, but damnit, does it look really cool" Quality matters

[@BloodlessWolf]

@@da_qbic Yes, and Korey and Martin admits Ahsoka looks really cool.

[@da_qbic]

@BloodlessWolf The production looks really good, you can tell they bled money into the show Again I'll say, Quality. Matters

[@Joselitty]

I love whenever Korey switches words / names lol Christen Haydensen is my new favorite.

[@RonanBunny]

29:39 I feel so bad for both Katee Sackhoff and Grogu for being a part of this scene

[@RebelWithoutABoss]

Rogue One, Andor and the first two seasons of Mandalorian are the only Star Wars media that's worth watching to me, including the original films. So I personally think it's been at its best lately. .

[@AheadOfTheCurve94]

No that we need to compare Andor vs. Ahsoka but as someone who isn't a SW fan, Andor was pretty good imo and I am wondering if this is similar enough in quality.

[@AheadOfTheCurve94]

@@oneskillpoint4669 can’t say I blame them after the reception of most SW shows lol. Are you liking Ahsoka?

[@AheadOfTheCurve94]

@@hijklmnopreaper This makes me wanna give it a fair shot

[@AheadOfTheCurve94]

@@oneskillpoint4669 ok then so it gets better as it goes? sounds good to me

[@comixproviderftw_02]

And to think, people had doubts about this show at first.

[@khalduras784]

Some people still have doubts. Personally i think the story is okay but Ahsoka herself is kinda the least interesting thing about the series thus far.

[@Thisisjustname]

​@@khalduras784so was Luke.

[@khalduras784]

@@Thisisjustname Um okay? Is that supposed to be a gotcha? Because the reason the reason i mentioned Ahsoka being the least interesting part is because the show is named after her.

[@RoninX33]

It was probably a good thing they kept the "World between Worlds" as a dream sequence.

[@emark8928]

Like Martin I didn't feel lost so much as I lacked connection with the returning characters. After a while I started skipping to the bad guys' scenes because they were way more interesting.

[@bjtight98]

Sabine is jaded as she lost Ezra (in space somewhere), Ahsoka (as her teacher), and her family on Mandalore (mentioned in the show, probably died due to The Purge of Mandalore carried out by Mauf Gideon).

[@AndreNitroX]

30:50 Grogu cookies got Martin good

[@troygoom2251]

Watch the few episodes with general krell guys. One of the moments where the clone wars hit so f***in hard for me.

[@tonydesign9646]

Clone Wars last couple series is where it will make sense to why he’s a higher being now. He is now the balance between both based on the prophecy because he had exposure to both. Also while being Darth Vader he focused with communicating with the dead or to communicate with his wife who passed away in episode 3.

[@fulcrum6760]

Hate how Twitter is taking out of context parts to try and cancel Dave Filoni.

[@johnwerner69]

They do that with everything and everyone

[@lashebawinston4906]

Ray Stevenson was an amazing actor. There was not a movie or series of his that I didn't totally enjoy.

[@Milleniumlance]

This more Rebels season 5 than sequel to clone wars...the plot of this series is a continuation of Rebels series finale

[@zengamer21]

Didn't advance the plot? We learn in this episode that Ahsoka was having trouble dealing with being a master and that's because she hadn't dealt with her past of being Anakin's padawan. She was failing Sabine because she couldn't get past her own feelings of guilt and anger towards her own master. By facing Anakin and getting this "last lesson" she grew and evolved past who she was before. That's why after she returns she is happy and smiling. Didn't advance the plot? Psh.

[@hoos3014]

Some critics are a little slow about understanding "character development."

[@travisdockery6434]

The main yet funny thing Ashoka keeps doing is crossing her arms in the most awkward ways and times. I get that that’s her character, but after the 10th time in one episode, you find it hilarious loll

[@similaritiesendhere]

It's awkward until you realize that she subconsciously mimics her master's mannerisms when stressed out. I wanna say that Vader's most intimidating pose (crossed arms) can be traced back to his first master, Qui-Gon, at least.

[@Andrea-nom]

I agree Corey. Mail was made a character by Filoni

[@KnightSparhawk]

It is interesting how they have been "softening" things with Midicholorians. They haven't dismissed it or anything it's more like they have changed how they explain it - everyone can play piano but then you have genius like Beethoven - in that sort of way. Like in Rogue One you had that Donnie Yen character who can't use the force but was connected enough I guess to avoid being blasted by gunfire.

[@seanclay7121]

It's unfortunate that two guys with such a background in animation and not much respect for post original trilogy, have not taken the time to try to watch the Clone Wars. That show was a Master Class in storytelling, world building, and evolving animation. It's easily the best of Star Wars and one of the best animations series of the last few decades. I'm almost as old as Corey and TCW was the only thing that got me back into SW.

[@jaymz010]

19:21 It’s cool. I had the same problem when Channing Tatum first hit the scene 😄 Both of em! Their first names sound like surnames!

[@Oroxom3]

I love that there is no filler, cause it literally is a prequel to the upcoming movie

[@thefirstbourne149]

I like Sabine a little better as it goes on, but I didn’t really like that it has to go on maybe that much later. She shows she’s much smarter than the first episode suggests. Even the first episode suggests she’s smarter than how the rest of the first episode suggests lol.

[@youngrootv]

Ahsoka is a good show because Dave Filoni, the guy that’s been carrying Star Wars, is in charge of it. He actually understands the Star Wars universe unlike the people that made those horrible movies or shows.

[@MrPuzzles]

So.......The Mandalorian is horrible? Andor is horrible? Rogue One and Solo are horrible?

[@youngrootv]

@@MrPuzzles tell me where did I say that? I didn’t specify what shows or movies bro.

[@MrPuzzles]

@@youngrootv "unlike the people that made those horrible movies or shows." FYI, Filoni literally worked on everything apart from Obi-Wan and Andor. Yes, he was involved even with the sequels.

[@youngrootv]

@@MrPuzzles again if you actually read I didn’t specify which shows or movies were horrible. Plus there’s a difference between working on something and being in charge of the project, use your brain dude.

[@GulfbeachMateo]

You got called out on the embarrassing characterization that - of all people - Dave Faloni - is "carrying" stat wars. .... There has been TERRIBLE written that he's overseen with Obi-Wan and yes, Ashoka. And we've seen plenty of good work without him.

[@CosmicSpaceBaby]

I loved season one of “The Mandolorian” until it became the Grogu show. Because “Ahsoka” feels so in the vein of ROGUE ONE, it feels so much more impactful, in my opinion. I’m loving it so far!

[@azaelthereon4141]

There’s some criticism about the show, but it’s great so far. I will agree if you didn’t read the book or watch Clone Wars and Rebels you’d be lost. But it’s just better than a lot of Star Wars shows right now.

[@zachberry4742]

It wasn’t a dream sequence! She was in the world between worlds.

[@marcushamner5994]

8:19 Yes sir, Darth Maul was in The Phantom Menace (the first prequel Star Wars movie)

[@ericodinson6593]

I wonder if the skywalker sighting in this episode would have been seen differently if he was a force ghost and mentioned how Luke had forgiven him and used that as the lesson

[@Arander92]

I’m pretty sure he was a Force Ghost

[@ericodinson6593]

@@Arander92 i mean, yes... and no, he needed the blue hue.

[@Arander92]

@@ericodinson6593 He’s in an ethereal plane. Maybe Force Ghosts don’t have the blue hue when you’re in a place that’s that strongly connected to the Force like the WBW

[@ericodinson6593]

@@Arander92 look, I liked it, I just know some people didn't. I would have liked them to have a better message at the end of the "lesson"

[@Cornwallis7]

But that's pretty much what happened except she did that herself, right? She bested him, spared his life, saw the good in him and herself, lesson learned!

[@orlandowright2323]

I saw a comment where someone said that Rosario Dawson's character, Claire, from Daredevil is a better portrayal of Ahsoka than her actual portrayal of Ahsoka and I kinda agree.

[@benjaminjenkins394]

Hahaha how does Ashoka seeing her master not progress the plot!?!? Have we been watching the same show!? She didn’t finish her training and she can’t deal with her trauma until she does. She was holding onto so much baggage about Anakin falling to the dark side that it was stunting her growth and her ability to teach Sabine. I haven’t even watched Clone Wars or Rebels that much and I thought that pint was made pretty clear. It was a little bit on the fan service side but the emotional weight and themes were absolutely present, valid, and beautiful. 🤷🏾‍♂️💁🏾‍♂️

[@Karlos1234ify]

PT: We’re just prequels, the fandom hates us. *People that love the OT & PT* Fans: Not to us

[@laurenj6802]

Ahsoka was supposed to be stoic cause of what she has been through. After she talked to Anakin in episode 5 you can tell she changed. Watch episodes 6-8 her personality will be back to how she was in Clone Wars.

[@scruffynerd84]

I wonder How Korey would feel about this. He refuses to watch Clone Wars and Rebels. I'm surprised he is enjoying it yet have no context of previous events which helps greatly impact the story. I Love the show and last episode was a love letter to Clone Wars fans and Rebels fans. I just know lots of fans who skipped on clones wars and rebels just because they see it only as kid show which has its moments being heavily kid friendly then gets more serious over the seasons. I you haven't seen them give them a chance, its all on disney plus, no excuses.

[@Cornwallis7]

The nostalgia versus legacy point is a very good one! Filoni is has always been very good at that. Ever since Clone Wars, he's always taken George Lucas's vision very seriously, but it seems like he knows the difference between honoring a legacy and pandering with nostalgia.

[@rusone2516]

That is how it has always been with Star Wars. There are people that have only seen the movies. When Star Wars had/has books, comics, cartoons and games. The people that only see the movies aren't expected to truly understand the full lore of SW. Not enjoying Ahsoka as much as some who is invested in SW lore is understandable.

[@BloodlessWolf]

That wasn't a dream sequence. She met Anakin's/Vader's force ghost in the World Between Worlds. This is the first post Return of the Jedi Vader moment we've seen and his moment with Ahsoka is super important to her character development. Ahsoka the Grey became Ahsoka the White. Filoni was always fascinated with Gandalf's journey in Lord of the Rings.

[@Channel-zs3gg]

Ahsoka is moving, it's constantly moving story forward, and it's fun and easy to watch

[@che8626]

The point of episode 5 completely missed Martin 😂

[@marshsundeen]

Martin, by the later episodes of Clone Wars (season three or four on), George Lucas was spending a ton of money per episode. Some cost a million.

[@tristanmilner9511]

Maybe Mr. Coleman should make his own style of film fighting and calling Korey-ography.

[@themadmonk6700]

Funny, the threads when this show came out were loaded with complaints about all female cast (Kanan is dead, Zeb is reuniting with his people, Ezra is MIA), claiming fraud related to the viewing numbers, and endless complaints about how it was cast. People just want to love or hate something due to pedigree and internal politics more than anything. This is so far the best of the shows; it is paced better than the Mandalorian, has tighter writing than Book of Fett, and doesn't have the superfluous elements of Andor.

[@spicymemes7458]

I respect Andor, but Ahsoka and Mandalorian are what I look for in a Star Wars show.

[@JohnnyZenith]

I love Andor but respect that you have that opinion. I'm not much of amanda lori and fan but I understand the appeal. This is a good show too.

[@SageTheChosen]

20:30 I really don't want to be the well actually guy lol but Martin having no prior knowledge of what happened to Ashoka and Why Anikan saved her and how would really turn him around on this. Saying this didn't need to be here is so completely wrong lol. The implications of Anikan being the Father and Ashoka being the Daughter, and her returning as Ashoka the white like Gandolf is all so massive lol. You guys should do like a part 2 where you both react to like an new rockstars easter egg video about this or something of the sort. I absolutely see the value of having an outsider opinion for a general audience perspective, but just more for your selfs as fans of Star wars, theres some good stuff here you'd probably be happy knowing.

[@assassin8636]

I never do like those outsider genral audience type of opinion cause it'll make you feel so out of touch of a franchise that you barely know about

[@IncredibleEdible1]

Sam brought maul to life

[@oolong2]

39:17 Just because they didn't talk about Midichlorians doesn't mean they don't exist. If I tell you I'm sick and don't mention viruses, that doesn't mean viruses don't exist. Having more or less Midichlorians is the same as being born with more or less "talent" or "force ability". All these things are interchangeable.

[@thefirstbourne149]

I don’t think it does 😂. They literally talk about cells and all that. Ahsoka was the one who says talent has at least a small factor into it. Maybe it makes sense for scientists in this world to say so, but man, let the jedi, or for that matter, us, to believe it’s something different.

[@frontrowcouch]

Martin's laugh is good for the soul

[@mrlij6534]

after seeing Ahsoka,they really had no business giving Kenobi to anyone other than Dave especially it being a direct sequel to George's revenge of the the sith. they need a Kenobi season 2 to retcon season 1 really.

[@blackmcbain3145]

They could have done the villains so much better. The actors were great. But they didn't have a lot to work with. The villains had the best scenes in obi wan

[@ninavaughn2274]

First two episodes I was not interested, but episode 4 and 5 have been great. I still love The Mandolorian and Andor more.

[@the_sync_lorde_5330]

Anakins not a cheap device he’s central to Ashoka’s story Arc

[@quintonadams5055]

Lotta ppl sleeping on that LL Cool J reference lol "Forget Oreos, eat Cool J cookies"

[@thedefinitionisthis]

It really is tough to gauge if a “newbie” can get into this without the prior knowledge of Rebels and Clone Wars. I do question which episodes Martin saw which didn’t win him over. If he’s talking about the first two seasons, then I can understand since those episodes were very standalone. Season 3 is where the show got more serialized and the quality graduated to what fans think of it now in retrospect. That being said, while there is merit to criticizing “Ahsoka” for not doing enough to get novice viewers up to speed on things that have happened in previous series, you might have to apply that notion to comic book movies (ie. MCU) that bank on you of having knowledge of 20+ previous movies. Simply, this show just isn’t for that kinda viewer. Filoni even kinda refers to this show as “Rebels, Season Five”. Much like something like an “Infinity War” or “Endgame”, “Ahsoka” might just simply be something that is strictly for those fans who have kept up with this lore. As someone who has kept up, I’m loving it. Can’t speak for anyone who hasn’t. It’s a tough position for the franchise to be in. Glad Korey seems to be enjoying more, despite only passing knowledge of what’s being referenced. Not really surprised by Martin’s response, given he feels that the fan-service seems to be just that, and not something that built on previous stories…… which, to be fair, is what fans of any property want: a logical continuation/expansion of what they know to be.

[@bjtight98]

Ahsoka meets Anakin in the World Between Worlds. For context u gotta watch the Morris arch in Clone Wars n i forget which 2 episodes in Rebels.

[@MrGrimreaper512]

I've never seen Rebels or Clone Wars, But I still got the story down ok. I think going in, you don't have to watch those shows to enjoy "Ahsoka". I like what I am seeing so far with the series, Dave Filoni and Jon Favreau are fucking geniuses. I won't spoil anything, I think the show was good. I think it takes a while though for the story to get going. But i was able to follow everything really good. I might go back and watch both Rebels and Clone Wars to get a better idea. I can't wait for what's to come in the last 3 episodes of Ahsoka.

[@assassin8636]

Um you have to watch to shows to have better understanding of it and you can enjoy it

[@MrGrimreaper512]

@@assassin8636 I did go back and started watching "Clone Wars" first, I'm on the 3rd episode of the 1st season and I'm really getting into it. I'm starting to get the story a little more better. But I like what I'm seeing so far. No spoilers please.

[@BloodlessWolf]

Imagine thinking you know about modern Star Wars and you've never watched Rebels or Clone Wars. Man, you're really missing out.

[@justbigstepbro9167]

These last two episodes have been fantastic, hopefully this is them setting up a bright future

[@sunnyplastazion9324]

You really need to watch Rebels to get why Hayden “Aniken” was needed for this show. It brings closure to his training in Clone Wars, helped Ashoka grow and transitions her from “Gandolf the Grey into Grandolf the White” moment, and gives Ani more depth that was missing from the prequel. Just a shame you need to watch Rebels and CW to enhance your Ashoka viewing.

[@assassin8636]

Um it's not a shame to be honest like you can watch those Rebels and CW to have a better understanding of Ashoka so you're wrong about that