Why are Modern Chinese Movies so Bad | Video Essay

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Accented Cinema

Accented Cinema

5 жыл бұрын

Accented Cinema - Episode 9
Chinese movie sucks.
Even your average Chinese would admit, there hasn't been many good Chinese films in recent years. But most of them aren't bad because they are lazy cash grabs. In fact, quite the opposite. Often times, they look expensive.
So what went wrong? In this episode, I'll offer my take on why Chinese films went downhill and how to fix it.
And if you are into GOOD Chinese films, go to your local cinema and watch "Wandering Earth"
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@samuelsolomon7330
@samuelsolomon7330 4 жыл бұрын
"Suddenly, so many more people could make movies, but not everyone had a story to tell." That is a fantastic quote.
@yeeyee5057
@yeeyee5057 4 жыл бұрын
Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
@samuelsolomon7330
@samuelsolomon7330 4 жыл бұрын
yee exactly.
@christopherblalock2903
@christopherblalock2903 4 жыл бұрын
Its the same with music.
@yiklongtay6029
@yiklongtay6029 4 жыл бұрын
This channel generates memorable quotes like a factory
@akshaykumarjha9136
@akshaykumarjha9136 4 жыл бұрын
The Hall of Milieur in Versailles !
@LaylaVaughan
@LaylaVaughan 3 жыл бұрын
Inspired by Japanese RPGs, which were inspired by Western Tabletop RPGs, which were inspired by JRR Tolkein, which were inspired by Hall of Mirror in Versailles
@aragorn1780
@aragorn1780 3 жыл бұрын
Not gonna lie you had me going in the first half xDDD
@estaticethan1752
@estaticethan1752 2 жыл бұрын
Ya got me good.
@mr.kotowari557
@mr.kotowari557 2 жыл бұрын
Your comment just made my day XD.
@lightspeeder
@lightspeeder 2 жыл бұрын
VERRRSAAII
@peterterry7918
@peterterry7918 2 жыл бұрын
Here I was going to say that JRR Tolkien was inspired by Finnish Mythology...which was inspired by The Mirrored Hall of Versailles!
@dudewuttheheck
@dudewuttheheck 3 жыл бұрын
It's even worse that Chinese cinema is trying to copy Hollywood when most mainstream Hollywood movies seem to be more creatively bankrupt than they used to be. So it's like you're doubling the lack of creativity.
@boris001000
@boris001000 3 жыл бұрын
*laughs because reality is funny*
@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent
@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent 3 жыл бұрын
Well many industries have ups and downs. Just cause modern Hollywood is in a slump doesn't mean it will be later. New Ideas and creativity is introduced as time goes on or certain elements replaced. For example. Minority groups have been pushing there own production companies that are slowly working its way into Hollywood. In time many might replace the current ones and then new stories might be introduced. They may however depict a different picture of the United States than the one that's been known for the last 100 years of cinema.
@bemotivated8443
@bemotivated8443 3 жыл бұрын
@@Quetzalcoatl_Feathered_Serpent maybe,cartoon saloon has made some good animated movies tho
@richardlinares6314
@richardlinares6314 3 жыл бұрын
Of course, nothings ever as good as it used to be. Everything is garbage now and whatever came out when you were 20 is solid gold. These videos are pretty cherry picked, much like people's general critique of anything. People conveniently ignore that the giant blockbuster movies are not the only movies getting made. Two movies highlighted here(exclusively because they have scenes in China) are "Her" and "Looper", not exactly creatively bankrupt. And many of the deeper story lines are better portrayed in TV series. There's garbage now, but there are gems like "Breaking Bad" and "The Americans"
@darksideofthemoon488
@darksideofthemoon488 3 жыл бұрын
Oh Hollywood has plenty of ideas and a warehouse of read yet unused scripts. The problem is they have to sell what would make the most money to the lowest common denominator. They can make a beautiful movie, but what they think is beautiful is a big return on the investment. That's why movies in the 80's was huge, because the birth of special effects and suspension of reality made it so appealing. It's why we can't replicate the same movies today, because we learned to make better films or we evolved from that standard. China is just trying to copy the image and they're just falling flat worse than whenever we make a long awaited sequel from a movie that aired 20 or 30 years ago.
@aprilvalleysdmt
@aprilvalleysdmt 3 жыл бұрын
“it’s like a middle schooler trying really hard to impress you.” what’s worse is that sometimes they are not even trying to impress you, they treat you like a middle schooler and think you’ll be impressed by whatever shxt they present. -as a chinese audience i am pissed
@littledovecitydust
@littledovecitydust 3 жыл бұрын
To grow you have to get the masses onboard, and the masses have terrible tastes. I've seen this "movie" in so many sectors. From the tech industry to the automobile industry. If you don't conform, you'll die. Then there won't be a story for you to tell. I've seen tremendous progress in the viewing standards of the Chinese audience, and thus better script writing and cinematography in Chinese films. Baby steps, one at a time.
@aprilvalleysdmt
@aprilvalleysdmt 3 жыл бұрын
@@littledovecitydust that is true. there is definitely growth, as there is the increasing demand for actually good stories/films from Chinese audience, and the sincere, quality stories are starting to get what they deserve (maybe like hi mom that was just released this month...?)
@littledovecitydust
@littledovecitydust 3 жыл бұрын
@@aprilvalleysdmt the cultural mentality is also different. Chinese audience are not sitting at home watching love flicks or documentaries, they are looking for high energy action movies to have a blast with. I don't think there's a culture to watch a movie in the theater that doesn't have explosions in them.
@aprilvalleysdmt
@aprilvalleysdmt 3 жыл бұрын
​@@littledovecitydust that is an interesting point I haven't considered before, not too sure about the accuracy though...? it might just be the general preference of the majority since things like explosions give the most straightforward satisfaction that does not require further processing? and again, I think there are increasing amount of criticism toward the lack of effort in the industry, and the average/overall taste or demand of Chinese audience is an increasingly complicated topic to discuss (which I do not feel like I have the sufficient knowledge for).
@littledovecitydust
@littledovecitydust 3 жыл бұрын
@@aprilvalleysdmt it's called the Upstart Syndrome. Give them ten years, they will demand more arty stuff.
@hansenyan6217
@hansenyan6217 4 жыл бұрын
Warning: 90% of the comments are about the inspiration of the Hall of Mirror in Versailles
@creativepseudonym9872
@creativepseudonym9872 4 жыл бұрын
I guess you could say they were inspired by the hall of mirrors in Versailles.
@haden1575
@haden1575 4 жыл бұрын
but what about the droid attack on the wookiees inspired by the hall of mirrors in Versailles
@j.clementec.m.1558
@j.clementec.m.1558 4 жыл бұрын
shit actually gave me a fucking headache
@bryanmartinez6600
@bryanmartinez6600 4 жыл бұрын
@@haden1575 no that was Johnny English inspired by the hall of mirrors in Versailles
@oopopp
@oopopp 4 жыл бұрын
Sadly, I wanted thoughtful conversation in the comments too as I love Hong Kong Cinema since I was a kid.......
@yanlopez674
@yanlopez674 4 жыл бұрын
In Conclusion: We were inspired by the Hall of Mirrors in Versaille
@Brakvash
@Brakvash 3 жыл бұрын
Versailles* You get to watch it again.
@boulderbash19700209
@boulderbash19700209 3 жыл бұрын
Get OUT!
@tuanhieutran9870
@tuanhieutran9870 3 жыл бұрын
@@boulderbash19700209 Get IN!
@daviddesmondlee
@daviddesmondlee 3 жыл бұрын
We wer inspai by the hor of mirrer in vasai.
@darkgummo3288
@darkgummo3288 3 жыл бұрын
*BOOB JIGGLES*
@user-fp1go9fl7n
@user-fp1go9fl7n 3 жыл бұрын
When I was a kid, whenever a Chinese movie came on the local television channels, the entire family would gather to watch it. As a Korean family, my dad would tell me about all these names of amazing martial arts actors who starred in amazing movies and what kind of skills they used - he grew up with them after all when Korea didn't have anything resembling a movie industry and it was China's unique myriad of movies that took to the screens. Now when a Chinese movie comes up on the cable Television I have now, we make a grasp for the remote to change the channel. How the great has fallen... I hope they really get their act up soon.
@jim41764
@jim41764 3 жыл бұрын
Hey bro, mind me asking you which year you were born?
@mr.goblin6039
@mr.goblin6039 3 жыл бұрын
Chinese movies had so much awe and wonder to them, all with mostly practical effects. The would show amazing architecture of the old cities, tell stories of life in China that somehow felt contemporary and realistic. But, much like Hollywood, Chinese cinema has become plastic and fake.
@zeeshanhazari
@zeeshanhazari 3 жыл бұрын
One of my favourite trilogy was *36th Chamber of Shaolin* which is not a Jackie film but still I like this triology and the story feels like yes it's from China and is telling us about how Wars have been going through China and why Shaolin don't interfere much in it as all 3 movie shows a different generation
@jim41764
@jim41764 2 жыл бұрын
@벌주는 사람 thank you for the reply!
@wrldtrvlr4vr
@wrldtrvlr4vr 2 жыл бұрын
I'd rather watch kdramas instead
@melonand_melons
@melonand_melons 3 жыл бұрын
This Video Essay is proudly sponsored by the Hall of Mirrors in Versailles.
@CallsignYukiMizuki
@CallsignYukiMizuki 5 жыл бұрын
The moral of the story: Be inspired by the Hall of Mirror in Versailles
@pix_d20
@pix_d20 5 жыл бұрын
I'm now inspired by the Hall of Mirror in Versailles.
@user-iy6rp1zt1l
@user-iy6rp1zt1l 5 жыл бұрын
*Ho of miler in vasie*
@lynnseanyoung
@lynnseanyoung 5 жыл бұрын
and Donald Trump's bathroom
@Linny95
@Linny95 5 жыл бұрын
HAHA I laughed
@NPC-xy7yg
@NPC-xy7yg 5 жыл бұрын
Well I have to admit that Versailles is beautiful
@Kennyiaf
@Kennyiaf 5 жыл бұрын
This video is inspired by the Hall of Mirror in Versailles
@christopherlin4706
@christopherlin4706 5 жыл бұрын
Hall of Mueller
@QuanTrietLOL
@QuanTrietLOL 5 жыл бұрын
I heard the Whore of miller. There's no L
@ericthemadscientist8357
@ericthemadscientist8357 5 жыл бұрын
this is funnier that than joke
@mathunit1
@mathunit1 4 жыл бұрын
@@ericthemadscientist8357 Nah.
@MichaelMichael-us6wq
@MichaelMichael-us6wq 3 жыл бұрын
Theirs a reason why Japan and Korea have more recognizable titles in the movie-making. Because both countries have something to say, rather than going for spectacle over storytelling. (Examples: Old Boy, Memoirs of Murders, The Host, Thirst, etc.)
@guillermodebaskerville7117
@guillermodebaskerville7117 3 жыл бұрын
Don't forget The Handmaiden
@riverkonkler3635
@riverkonkler3635 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Korean and Japanese cinema is undefeated. You brought up some phenomenal Korean flicks movies, but I also have to praise Japanese features such as Love Exposure, Still Walking, Eureka, and Linda Linda Linda.
@MichaelMichael-us6wq
@MichaelMichael-us6wq 3 жыл бұрын
@@riverkonkler3635 You forgot Seven Samurai, Ran, aka all Kurosawa films
@riverkonkler3635
@riverkonkler3635 3 жыл бұрын
@@MichaelMichael-us6wq Oh for sure those are great movies, but I’d like to refer to post-2000 filmmaking in this discussion since Chinese cinema’s downfall happened in the aughts and it wouldn’t be fair to compare masterpieces to corporate garbage.
@rjd252
@rjd252 3 жыл бұрын
@@guillermodebaskerville7117 I m frm india..I watched it n was shocked😂. It's a masterpiece
@shivasrinivasan80
@shivasrinivasan80 3 жыл бұрын
In India it has always been the old Hong Kong based martial arts movies that have been a part of many people's childhood. The Big Boss, Fist of Fury, The 36th Chamber of Shaolin, Snake in the Monkey's Shadow, Five Deadly Venoms, The Magnificent Butcher, Drunken Master, Ninja on the Wall, Five Shaolin Masters and Dirty Ho.
@sneha3777
@sneha3777 3 жыл бұрын
Yes i love all these movies! No one can match the action style of jackie chan movies
@shivasrinivasan80
@shivasrinivasan80 3 жыл бұрын
@XTRA V1CI0US There is a movie called Snake in the Monkey's Shadow in 1980. It was excellent and had classic dubbed lines!
@sonofgod793
@sonofgod793 3 жыл бұрын
Bhai you forget kung fu hustle .
@shivasrinivasan80
@shivasrinivasan80 3 жыл бұрын
@@sonofgod793 Fabulous movie no doubt. But I was talking about the 80s and 90s in India. Kung Fu Hustle came out in 2004. The usage of the Fisherman's Song to East China Sea for the final fight is just legendary.
@saikatbanik9359
@saikatbanik9359 2 жыл бұрын
Yes
@InfiniteLegoWorks
@InfiniteLegoWorks 4 жыл бұрын
"How come American actions heroes can take bullets and keep going but not Chinese ones?" Training in American public schools
@calexise
@calexise 4 жыл бұрын
Thats dark lol
@genghiskhan5701
@genghiskhan5701 4 жыл бұрын
Tiananmen Square:You sure about that?
@kevinkuang2292
@kevinkuang2292 4 жыл бұрын
@@genghiskhan5701 but you gotta keep a good training routine.
@ionutbalta6607
@ionutbalta6607 4 жыл бұрын
@@kevinkuang2292 They're making a return in Hong Kong dont worry.
@CJ-nv8mx
@CJ-nv8mx 4 жыл бұрын
I'm looking forward to T Square 2 which I'm sure wil be happening shortly in the HK airport.
@svrona7696
@svrona7696 4 жыл бұрын
The scene showing Jack Ma beating a trained fighter just showz that money beats everything.
@potatonoodlebear8035
@potatonoodlebear8035 4 жыл бұрын
SvRona 762 lmao
@yadevk8025
@yadevk8025 4 жыл бұрын
Jeezus. I still remember the interview on stage he shared with Elon Musk. Ma was an incredible idiot.
@chongjunxiang3002
@chongjunxiang3002 4 жыл бұрын
@@yadevk8025 Imagine Elon Musk starred in a film and he beats Triple H. He would be a bigger meme, in which actually Elon Musk's life essence: money and popular support through meme.
@yadevk8025
@yadevk8025 4 жыл бұрын
@Duck Cat lol and wtf does being rich have anything to do with it? There are plenty of poeple richer than me, and you, and more than 90 percent of the world. This is no exaggeration. Either way, Elon thought him an idiot, and was basically dismissive in the interview.
@yadevk8025
@yadevk8025 4 жыл бұрын
@Duck Cat Also, if you don't understand a topic, then you don't talk about it as if you understand it. It's like anti-vaxers not vaxicinating their kids, and their kids die, makes the parents nothing more than murderers and idiots.
@vidzgw
@vidzgw 3 жыл бұрын
A friend who used to live in China for years gave me this tip about mainland movies. "Look at the poster. If it looks ridiculous, it probably is. Producers must have spent half their budget on designing what they thought were "cool" poster, and the rest went to stupid CGI"
@CinnamonGrrlErin1
@CinnamonGrrlErin1 3 жыл бұрын
It really is a Hall of mirrors now too, with studios like Disney putting a priority on Chinese audiences
@sabrina1380m
@sabrina1380m 2 жыл бұрын
Yet they can't please the Chinese audience, they don't pander to them they want to conquer the Chinese market.
@LUCTIANITO
@LUCTIANITO 4 жыл бұрын
I'm starting to believe that this video is inspired by the by the Hall of Mirror in Versalles
@mauriciojaralopez2878
@mauriciojaralopez2878 3 жыл бұрын
In Versayy
@erichuang7524
@erichuang7524 3 жыл бұрын
We were inspired by the Hall of Mirrors in VERsailles
@norakeuyeuy9527
@norakeuyeuy9527 3 жыл бұрын
We are Versailles version...... in poor way XD
@jcfilmz
@jcfilmz 5 жыл бұрын
I actually liked old Chinese films. These new Chinese films are just rich ppl flexing their money. All their movies look like it was made with Final Fantasy in mind.
@Similo
@Similo 5 жыл бұрын
Jackie Chan and Bruce Lee brought China to Hollywood and that was that hey. Their Kung Fu movies used to be the Shhhiiii
@ericlau2950
@ericlau2950 5 жыл бұрын
@@Similo wrong. You are talking about Hong Kong movies not China movies. Big difference.
@Similo
@Similo 5 жыл бұрын
Eric Lau wow really?! 🙈😆 okay cool I meant Hong Kong movies from China.
@goodial
@goodial 5 жыл бұрын
@@Similo the thing you have to understand is that Hong Kong only belongs to China since 1997. It was a British colony before that. Hong Kong movies from that era thus are really not movies from China.
@paquirosd
@paquirosd 5 жыл бұрын
Hey! Final Fantasy games are great. Show some respect.
@serkg4672
@serkg4672 3 жыл бұрын
I remember the Classics by Stephen Chow. Those were amazing. Now, I don't even want to know any of their movies.
@godgreat3811
@godgreat3811 3 жыл бұрын
Stephen Chow is GOLD, oh I miss those days.
@Naeinsengimnida
@Naeinsengimnida 2 жыл бұрын
There were less movies so it was easier to find the good ones, now the market is flooded with movies and unless your heard it from someone you'll probably miss several excellent movies because of it...
@marsh6714
@marsh6714 3 жыл бұрын
I feel exactly how you feel about modern Chinese films as a Filipino. A lot of the new shows and entertainment from the Philippines isn't "Filipino." Instead it's an inferior copy of American and South Korean films/shows. I was born in the Philippines but never had interest on the shows, because they are all the same and go along the same story. Unless I recognize the actors, I would be invest but for the wrong reasons. A lot of them at least incorporate the unique Filipino setting and life, but nothing more.
@matty1754
@matty1754 3 жыл бұрын
Thats exactly how i feel about modern phillipine movies, no unique concepts, no unique plot, just the same shit
@TheMaster4534
@TheMaster4534 3 жыл бұрын
@@matty1754 Because ABS-CBN rules the Philippine entertainment industry. Also, China should have just stuck with their patriotic movies. And we Filipinos should copy China's style of patriotic films to teach history in a digestible way
@sweettooth9057
@sweettooth9057 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheMaster4534 Even our patriotic movies like Juan Luna and Goyo have a clear influence of being inspired by Hollywood’s version fo patriotism and bravery. It is impossible to paint history in accurate light because in the end, the final product will always be heavily edited with the goal of painting a specific narrative for the sake of commercial appeal. Philippine history leading up to the late 19th century is pretty much non-marketable to the public. Cavite Mutiny? The various human crimes of Spanish colonization? How about the typical life of the Filipino under Spanish rule? Even the people we so hold dearly as heroes are part of the 1% of Filipinos that lived under he influence of Spanish bureaucracy. That then leads to the problem that Filipino filmmakers will always encounter when it comes to accurate Philippine history: is the population prepared to be rational with Philippine history? Knowing that fellow countrymen love the idea of glorification, I don’t think so. Funnily enough, one of the best movies Philippine cinema had to offer are the ones that focused on the ordinary. Manila in the Claws of Light with a humble provinciano making a living in the concrete jungle that is Metro Manila. Or Himala where a woman in the outskirts of Benguet is challenged with her faith. Or some recent Filipino romance movies represent Filipinos better. More often than not, some of the best movies do not indulge in the grandiose but instead focus on the little things. Take Eternal Sunshine of the Spotless Mind. Sure, it has sci-fi elements but when you strip it down to its basic premise, it is a movie that questions “Does the pain of love warrant the erasure of its existence if it just hurts in the end?” Because in the end, humans often than not don’t deal with grand dilemmas, it all comes down to the little things.
@itachi-kun7736
@itachi-kun7736 2 жыл бұрын
@@sweettooth9057 filipino film makers only cared about money even on how bad the film they made like Vice Ganda has many worst movies but got more money over great films on Heneral Luna & Goyo
@andrewsung963
@andrewsung963 3 жыл бұрын
“Don’t be Versailles. Be China, because no one can make a better Chinese story” Damn this one hit me
@SamiPuma
@SamiPuma 3 жыл бұрын
dude I know, I'm not chinese and it still made me wanna tear up like THAT'S RIGHT, NO ONE ELSE CAN DAMNIT T_T
@ishouldbestudying251
@ishouldbestudying251 2 жыл бұрын
How many times have you been hit by someone’s quote
@tinafay1067
@tinafay1067 2 жыл бұрын
And no one has made a better Chinese story. There are plenty of good examples. This video was just trying to point out the bad ones so hopefully they all go away and all we're left with are the good ones.
@mr.wiggles362
@mr.wiggles362 2 жыл бұрын
I remember how the animated movie Kung Fu Panda surprised a lot of Chinese because it was so good and was made by foreigners. I remember reading an article how people asked "why is it people outside of china make better movies of china, than the Chinese?"
@imsonicnoob2112
@imsonicnoob2112 Жыл бұрын
Be like Donald trumps bathroom
@Ole4735
@Ole4735 5 жыл бұрын
Conclusion: don’t be inspired by hall of mirror in Versailles
@JaniceHope
@JaniceHope 4 жыл бұрын
Wrong. Conclusion is: BE inspired by the hall of mirrors in Versailles and look at yourself. And be yourself.
@jlaroche0
@jlaroche0 4 жыл бұрын
@@JaniceHope No. The conclusion is be inspired by your own stories and your own culture and your own experiences. Tell your own stores, and don't just blindly imitate other peoples.
@pikachu5647
@pikachu5647 3 жыл бұрын
Host: "Asura" based on hindu mythology Me a hindu: visible sweating
@gamingapocalypse7973
@gamingapocalypse7973 3 жыл бұрын
Now as a hindu I wanna see the film to know how they handled our mythology.
@onionknight9431
@onionknight9431 3 жыл бұрын
Me as a Buddhist: "But Asuras are real..."
@ethanmanjhi4007
@ethanmanjhi4007 3 жыл бұрын
Bhai iss video m phle hi bol diya gya ki...movie inspired h hindu mythology k upar but sara chiz european wala h...aur indian filmakers v to whi kr rha h...hum north walon ke pass acha hindi lang ka base v nhi h...humlog to even vocabulary v western log se rhte h...bollywood south films sala saare film m koi originality nhi h...chinese filmo k trah hum v whi westerns k trah copy kr rhe h...ye video chinese nhi indians k liye v apply hota h
@adarshgupta8963
@adarshgupta8963 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanmanjhi4007 true but kuch movies achi hoti hai jaise tanhaji, Bahubali, Kesari, Uri aur bahut sari films.
@balajip6405
@balajip6405 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethanmanjhi4007 this happens when one has lot of money but No identity happening to Bollywood that’s why I watch south movies...
@bernardfinucane2061
@bernardfinucane2061 3 жыл бұрын
Jackie Chan is a good example. He is completely dismissive of Hollywood action movies. Not so much that he thought they were bad, he just wasn't interested in doing things their way. He is a great success because he does it his way.
3 жыл бұрын
? He's about as standard Hollywood action as it comes, what are you talking about? lol
@dhilipans5412
@dhilipans5412 3 жыл бұрын
@ nah he does his own stunts
@mr.kotowari557
@mr.kotowari557 2 жыл бұрын
Now he's bowing to those CCP farts and keeps on praising what they did on hongkong despite owing his carrer from hongkong.
@wongjefx980
@wongjefx980 2 жыл бұрын
...have you seen Dragon Blade... yikes... brutal to watch... although the premise was decent... ancient Chinese soldiers making contact with Roman legions... the story and execution went off the rails...
@charless3108
@charless3108 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure he was the main lead in a trash knock off terminator, it was bad no matter how you looked at it
@duchi882
@duchi882 3 жыл бұрын
*Its not Made in China* Its inspired by the Hall of Mirrors in Versailles
@josemiguelcaballerorestrep2101
@josemiguelcaballerorestrep2101 3 жыл бұрын
darkprince, how come the USA allegedly has no culture yet every other nation in the continent does?
@josemiguelcaballerorestrep2101
@josemiguelcaballerorestrep2101 3 жыл бұрын
darkprince, because I find a statement such as that unbelievable stupid, how can you say all white people don’t have culture? Have you even looked at all those countries in Europe? Just because you refuse to acknowledge something does not mean it’s not there, besides how come everyone else has culture yet white people somehow don’t? It confuses me as to how countries in Latin America somehow have a unique culture yet the USA doesn’t, the reason for me finding this stupid is that there’s no reason for the USA to not have developed its own culture even though it’s been around almost as long as the Latin American countries, so I consider it just a stupid jab at the USA rather than an actual fact, before I finish I must say that I care about such as discussion is because I am a white person from Colombia but according to you I don’t have a culture yet the majority of the people in my country do
@zhengyangwang214
@zhengyangwang214 3 жыл бұрын
@darkprince You obviously haven't watched any European movies. Btw the modern superhero genre is part and parcel of American culture. Also, modern great literatures are literally written by your simplified definition of "white". Lord of The Rings, 1984, A Song of Ice and Fire, Narnia, Sherlock Holmes, Harry Potter, and many others are just the hint of contemporary and modern culture. So you're either ignorant of all of this, or you're just racially biased against "whites", perhaps both.
@josemiguelcaballerorestrep2101
@josemiguelcaballerorestrep2101 3 жыл бұрын
@darkprince, thanks for enlightening me, I didn’t know my entire existence was a crime to my fellow countrymen, I mean it’s not like you’re spewing hateful rhetoric because you’re mad white people happened to be better at certain things, and besides last I checked whites weren’t the only ones indulging in slavery, or are you going to claim that somehow Arabs and Africans can do it just fine? There’s no reasoning with you given you literally claimed LOTR is part of some Christian conspiracy to steal ideas from pagans, you just hate whites and Christians but try to sound like an intellectual by subjecting different groups to different standards in some wasted attempt at proving a point, nice attempt at ending the argument with “you’re not American so shut up”
@boulderbash19700209
@boulderbash19700209 3 жыл бұрын
Get OUT!
@andrewzhou1870
@andrewzhou1870 4 жыл бұрын
"Don't be Versailles, be China, because no one can tell a better China story."
@yuka4123
@yuka4123 3 жыл бұрын
That line hit me aa;slkdjf
@thenextguy32
@thenextguy32 3 жыл бұрын
I mean didnt the Chinese film industry freak out because Kung Fu Panda was a better Chinese story than China could produce?
@andrewzhou1870
@andrewzhou1870 3 жыл бұрын
@@thenextguy32 I would say it's like a snap in the face for Chinese filmmaker at that time. The same case would be the "Three Kingdoms" game as well, at which I was astonished after hearing a foreign company produces it. However, it doesn't mean there's no one in China can produce any film better than Kung Fu Panda at that time. The actual shame is there is definitely potential for the Chinese to produce a better film than this already excellent masterpiece. But "so many investors are eager to be the Versailles" should be the reason why there isn't any good Chinese film at that time. What I interpret "Better" in this case emphasizes "the cultural essence". That's why I appreciate Nezha (2019) so much and dislike Mulan Disney movie this year. Both for the same reason. Hope this helps explain. Peace:)
@supmegatommy8918
@supmegatommy8918 3 жыл бұрын
To conclude, China wants to be the second Versailles, but they don't even think of being the first Old Summer Palace.
@andrewzhou1870
@andrewzhou1870 3 жыл бұрын
@@supmegatommy8918 Precise.
@zikry1932
@zikry1932 3 жыл бұрын
So Chinese cinema is like the little sibling that wants to follow the older brother, American cinema and when they stop being that little sibling they can become themselves.
@mickjslavin2109
@mickjslavin2109 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve never considered China as a little Diablo of US. US movies suck with the usual scenario. I prefer watching Chinese, Indian and Phillipine movies over US, as long as they have English subtitles. So much better
@zikry1932
@zikry1932 3 жыл бұрын
@@mickjslavin2109 yeah I agree to what you said. Ain’t gunna judge you opinion 👍
@arylumbanraja
@arylumbanraja 3 жыл бұрын
@@mickjslavin2109 chinese movies suck
@mickjslavin2109
@mickjslavin2109 3 жыл бұрын
@@arylumbanraja I think you’ve never watched any. So your comment means hack shit to me
@marygraceoyangorin8918
@marygraceoyangorin8918 2 жыл бұрын
@@mickjslavin2109 Question, since some people say that philippine cinema is bad, what made you like watching Filipino movies?
@onodera387
@onodera387 3 жыл бұрын
Believe me the same shit happens in Bollywood too but ever since Netflix and Amazon prime came ,many more people started to experiment and now the web series are top level (it has many indian political reference so maybe people outside india may not understand that) but most indians love it
@nine9605
@nine9605 3 жыл бұрын
OTT shows are extremely good but I don’t like them inserting political views in the show.
@onodera387
@onodera387 3 жыл бұрын
@@nine9605 yep . They ruined many great shows
@someonejustsomeone1469
@someonejustsomeone1469 3 жыл бұрын
One of the biggest weaknesses of Indian web series is that the content is always presented for a certain age group niche from 16 to the early 30s. The traditional film industry is considerably wholesome and family friendly and you can relax and enjoy them. Web series has an added depth but when all popular web series give the same feeling it brings the same staleness that traditional cinema has.
@gokulkrishnan2736
@gokulkrishnan2736 3 жыл бұрын
@@someonejustsomeone1469 Agreed. Like he said in the video, " Everyone can make a movie now, but not all of them have a story to tell". I remember when Sacred Games released on Netflix. it kinda gave hope that we would get a lot more content driven movies/series. But alas, looking at the condition of original Indian content on Netflix now, hardly 10% of that is actually good :( I guess Amazon is doing better these days though ....
@tardwrangler1019
@tardwrangler1019 3 жыл бұрын
Most otts think they're so cool and hip by being vulgar. I hate it
@figarofigarini
@figarofigarini 3 жыл бұрын
i swear to god,if i hear "We were inspired by the Hall of mirrors in Versaille" again i will make a building jump off a human.
@swain-Ix1tv
@swain-Ix1tv 3 жыл бұрын
it'a annoying
@jotarokujo5219
@jotarokujo5219 3 жыл бұрын
wE wErE iNsPiReD bY tHe HaLl Of MiRrOrS iN vErSaIlLe
@guillermodebaskerville7117
@guillermodebaskerville7117 3 жыл бұрын
And Donald Trump's bathroom
@karaqakkzl
@karaqakkzl 3 жыл бұрын
@@swain-Ix1tv just like Chinese movies, he says
@yunleung2631
@yunleung2631 2 жыл бұрын
He really got some mileage out of that clip lmao.
@janchristianwismarsaragih902
@janchristianwismarsaragih902 5 жыл бұрын
WE WERE INSPIRED BY THE HAL.. YES DAMMIT I GET IT
@ericthemadscientist8357
@ericthemadscientist8357 5 жыл бұрын
Damn it*
@josh-qj2zu
@josh-qj2zu 4 жыл бұрын
@@ericthemadscientist8357 no it's dammit i think
@uiraideszen3223
@uiraideszen3223 4 жыл бұрын
Don't stop
@jakmanxyom
@jakmanxyom 4 жыл бұрын
I believe he got it from the Lindsay Ellis School of Running Catchphrase Gags.
@TheKnoxvicious
@TheKnoxvicious 4 жыл бұрын
Kind of ruined the whole video for me 😑
@vinayak90417
@vinayak90417 3 жыл бұрын
Stephen Chow movies were the best from China till now.. people will never forget ' Kung Fu Hustle '..' Shaolin Soccer '..' Journey to the West '..' God of Gamblers '..' CJ7 ' etc..He is a legendary actor and director 🔥
@charlesmadre5568
@charlesmadre5568 2 жыл бұрын
Those are HK films, not mainland Chinese films. Two completely separate industries.
@melodicnostalgic3823
@melodicnostalgic3823 3 жыл бұрын
As someone from India, I absolutely fell in Love with Chinese Movies (I'm not sure if those were Made in China or Hong Kong). Those old Kung Fu Movies, They were really Good, Despite the bad dialogue. Movies like Once upon a Time in China, Legend of Red Dragon, Kung-Fu Hustle, These were the Good Movies, Very well made.
@shivasrinivasan80
@shivasrinivasan80 3 жыл бұрын
In India it has always been the old Hong Kong martial arts movies that have been a part of many people's childhood. The Big Boss, Fist of Fury, The 36th Chamber of Shaolin, Snake in the Monkey's Shadow, Five Deadly Venoms, The Magnificent Butcher, Drunken Master, Ninja on the Wall, Five Shaolin Masters and Dirty Ho.
@Blindswordsman1994
@Blindswordsman1994 2 жыл бұрын
They’re Hong Kong movies
@a.c6761
@a.c6761 Жыл бұрын
All those movies are made in HK
@theredbar-cross8515
@theredbar-cross8515 5 жыл бұрын
It's darkly ironic that the most popular movie about pandas and kung fu was made in Hollywood.
@marcusaurelius2147
@marcusaurelius2147 4 жыл бұрын
Bruce Lee, would disagree
@SenorGuina
@SenorGuina 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcusaurelius2147 Bruce Lee was American
@janylloupaye3161
@janylloupaye3161 4 жыл бұрын
@@SenorGuina and black
@marcusaurelius2147
@marcusaurelius2147 4 жыл бұрын
@@SenorGuina ehh.... yes? How does the actors nationality dictate where a Movie is made? where did Bruce Lee make his movies? Hollywood? No, they where made in Hong Kong. lets try to use your logic again so you can see the error of your ways: Kunal Nayyar stars in The Big Bang Theory, so the show is Indian. Genius
@SenorGuina
@SenorGuina 4 жыл бұрын
@@marcusaurelius2147 I just said where he was born lol, you just pulled a bunch of things out of your ass
@XFreezerBunnyX
@XFreezerBunnyX 4 жыл бұрын
My professor made us watch "Raise the Red Lantern" back when we were studying Chinese Architectural history. And it was beautiful. Slow-paced yet nuanced. It kept me at the edge of my seat anticipating what happens next. It's probably my favorite Chinese film I've seen so far. Sadly it's the same situation in the Philippines. Mainstream cinema is trying so hard to replicate Hollywood and American pop culture that we're forgetting to tell our own stories as a people. That's why I prefer watching indie Filipino movies not only because they're more artistic but they're also relevant narratives.
@07_danishwistara29
@07_danishwistara29 4 жыл бұрын
Indonesian horror industry is a cesspool of trash, the action is pretty good, and the romance is great at best but normally a pile of shit
@gnikulodeon1999
@gnikulodeon1999 3 жыл бұрын
Ang gusto ko lang sana na mapanood, yung action film na ipo-promote ang mga kapulisan natin, and of course a relevant film with a good story.
@raccoonjs6437
@raccoonjs6437 3 жыл бұрын
> That's why I prefer watching indie Filipino movies not only because they're more artistic but they're also relevant narrative. Same can be said about American indie movies.
@hejhowareyou
@hejhowareyou 3 жыл бұрын
i've seen more lav diaz films than i've seen mainstream filipino movies
@madkilla707
@madkilla707 3 жыл бұрын
Mainstream filmmakers trying to make films with their iconic celebrities despite the movie story was really Bad Making Filipino movie goee looks dumb
@eugene188
@eugene188 3 жыл бұрын
For real, a Chinese movie I enjoyed recently was Chongqing Hot Pot. It showed the culture of Chongqing and was kind of low budget. But the story was good, and it showed actual life. Chinese TV series, especially Wuxia have also fallen into the no creativity set. How many wuxia fight scenes still to this day will do the 360 degree view like in the matrix? How many will have a fight scene where a dude a flying forward pointing their sword at a guys face, while they are flying backwards trying to avoid the sword? It is in pretty much every single wuxia tv series.
@eddychou1933
@eddychou1933 3 жыл бұрын
The mid to late 2000s had such a good wave of indie filmmakers from China. I still love Betelnut. The audience at the HK film festival thought it was too slow but I loved it.
@ghivifahmi4252
@ghivifahmi4252 3 жыл бұрын
It's like in graphics design class where that one kid proclaims "graphic design is my passion" and put every fricking effect into their work
@ajemajh
@ajemajh 3 жыл бұрын
grApHIc deSiGn is mY passIoN
@xwah5016
@xwah5016 3 жыл бұрын
That’s like Bollywood
@ghivifahmi4252
@ghivifahmi4252 3 жыл бұрын
@@xwah5016 nah, at least bollywood has that sync dancing charm
@xwah5016
@xwah5016 3 жыл бұрын
@@ghivifahmi4252 lmaooo, weird, I’ve been binge watching a lot of cdramas lately. I’m not saying Indian movies r all bad, there def r some good ones just like the Chinese dramas.
@chingghishan5707
@chingghishan5707 5 жыл бұрын
Bollywood: We have the most dumb/ overdramatic scenes in the world China: hold my rice wine.
@dylan8736
@dylan8736 5 жыл бұрын
Er guo tou
@warrenchong5740
@warrenchong5740 5 жыл бұрын
The difference is that, while bollywood does (sometimes blatantly) copy Hollywood and other sucessful techniques used in blockbuster films, it ends up being artistic in its own way due to budget and technical constraints. Because of those constraints, Bollywood (as well as Nollywood and Wakaliwood, they're much better examples) ends up creating something unique that has its own enjoyment and critisism from both India and the international film community as a whole. However, since China and Chinese film studios have the capacity and resources to recreate Hollywood, they try, and try hard to replicate (notice the difference from recreate) Hollywood under a Chinese identity. Chinese Audience: We want CGI to show technical superiority We want modern adaptations of classic fables and legends so that it has a Chinese identity We want humor because we want to be entertained Chinese Studios: Shits out a 90-120 minute CGI fest with wide, sweeping shots to create a sense of grandeur for the CGI technique, but everything is still stuck in the uncanny valley and looks like a video game. Costuming looks like the staff had a dispute whether to make tastefully realistic recreations of the characters or to use whatever theater productions use. Humor is forced. Directors have no sense of pacing, and plot points are made to show the (Chinese) audience (who mostly are happy with what they get) the next thing on the field trip (CGI wide shots, the next joke, the next battle, etc). No artistry or good storytelling at all.
@Allen-qs2xr
@Allen-qs2xr 5 жыл бұрын
Check out China Wine.
@luciansilver4113
@luciansilver4113 5 жыл бұрын
ITS MY LIFE, WHATEVER I WANNA DO.
@internettroll7497
@internettroll7497 5 жыл бұрын
@@luciansilver4113 lol
@trocustar3450
@trocustar3450 3 жыл бұрын
Me an Indian who love old jackie chan and bruce lee movies from 1980s and 90s and also some other movies from 2000s. P.S --> I am a teenager.
@adi-hk4hb
@adi-hk4hb 3 жыл бұрын
It's Hong Kong cinema diff from Chinese cinema
@trocustar3450
@trocustar3450 3 жыл бұрын
I am not saying its chinese but many actors were chinese.
@sneha3777
@sneha3777 3 жыл бұрын
The setting and beauty! No city life drama in these movies! Just simple setting with a beautiful story. I love Jackie chan but sadly the new jackie chan movies are turning out to be a mediocre
@sumanpanday474
@sumanpanday474 3 жыл бұрын
Kung Fu Hustle and Shaolin Soccer are the most popular Chinese movies in India. Almost every Indian has watched them.
@cricketclassics5490
@cricketclassics5490 3 жыл бұрын
@@sumanpanday474 I think all these kungfu movies are Hong Kong ones and not Chinese films..
@grapes481
@grapes481 3 жыл бұрын
19th Century Europeans: "We were inspired by the Forbidden Palace in Beijing"
@aninditasakti
@aninditasakti 5 жыл бұрын
I want to write some comments, but my head just full of "We were inspired by the Hall of Mirror in Versailles". Good job to you...
@jenimarai1906
@jenimarai1906 5 жыл бұрын
@Abhijeet Kundu Jinke Ghar Sishe ke hote he, Woh Basement ME Kapde badlte he.
@ignashi7plays401
@ignashi7plays401 5 жыл бұрын
huehuehue
@makikirikiri3527
@makikirikiri3527 5 жыл бұрын
@@jenimarai1906 how much free time do u have , u r every where
@vinicinfodexota5083
@vinicinfodexota5083 4 жыл бұрын
the "hong kong action" genre from the 80s and 90s literally inspired me to study cinema, i have so much respect for the asian cinema, that is why it hurts even more to know the state of things right now
@mequeimouze
@mequeimouze 4 жыл бұрын
HK wasn't China in the 80s and 90s. They had creative freedom.
@liucyrus22
@liucyrus22 4 жыл бұрын
mequeimouze sucks that local production gets assimilated by the bad taste but massive Chinese market. Essentially most “Hong Kong films” nowadays are Chinese films stealing the branding by working with a Hong Kong cast. But yeah I have to admit that Hong Kong films were a bit on the bad taste side too.
@ricg3010
@ricg3010 4 жыл бұрын
HK cinema is officially dead now
@ricg3010
@ricg3010 4 жыл бұрын
@TravelerPat Mainland China film and HK film are totally different.... In energy, production value, creativity and originality...... What you are looking for still exist in Mainland China but usually with shitty stories. I think they fired up and made a shitload of them recently for all of those Netflix's clones..... One way to keep 'the world biggest film studio' busy
@testname4464
@testname4464 4 жыл бұрын
Hong Kong is not China. They're two entirely different countries.
@chaotickreg7024
@chaotickreg7024 3 жыл бұрын
Hey, I really appreciate you nailing in that quote from Crazy Rich Asians. It was relevant every time for a different reason. It made the line feel WAY deeper than it felt the first time I heard it. I need to rewatch that whole movie now.
@purplepantedits8105
@purplepantedits8105 3 жыл бұрын
2:42 Same for India brother, I know we are at war but our countries have same soul. I can easily relate this with India.
@sobojetty
@sobojetty 2 жыл бұрын
I like to think only our politicians are at war with one another. The ordinary Chinese and the ordinary Indian man on the street just have zero feelings of animosity towards each other. These two countries have a long ancient history of cultural exchange with each other. News of war, rumours of war, threats of war are heartbreaking.
@RoyLee89
@RoyLee89 5 жыл бұрын
Ironically Crazy Rich Asians is not a film about China. It's about Singapore.
@DavidGravesExists
@DavidGravesExists 5 жыл бұрын
...which is a part of China. Obviously.
@CrissieTan
@CrissieTan 5 жыл бұрын
David Graves LOL, Singapore is Singapore. We aren’t in China.
@sidaranesong324
@sidaranesong324 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidGravesExists saying Asian country is part of China is like saying French Ireland is a part of England
@hmoobmeeka
@hmoobmeeka 4 жыл бұрын
@@DavidGravesExists there are a lot of Chinese in Singapore but it's not part of china. you're thinking of Hong Kong, which is part of China
@kuttappann871
@kuttappann871 4 жыл бұрын
@@sidaranesong324 Your comment is truth. But you should have said some other country name instead of IRELAND from europe like Germany or Sweden or Spain because Ireland is part of United Kingdom indeed
@rayespidol1996
@rayespidol1996 5 жыл бұрын
"We were inspired by the Hall of Mirror in Versailles" line is embedded in my memory now. thanks. lol jk, Great job man!
@lower_than_furries9727
@lower_than_furries9727 5 жыл бұрын
You mean the " hol of mille in fursale"?
@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999
@MrAaaaazzzzz00009999 5 жыл бұрын
@@lower_than_furries9727 You mean the "We wer ispier bye da hol um milo n vursai
@MostlyPennyCat
@MostlyPennyCat 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah, that's not going away anytime soon is it?
@AccentedCinema
@AccentedCinema 5 жыл бұрын
I heard "Muller" every time.
@thisiscoral
@thisiscoral 5 жыл бұрын
I disliked because of that recurring unfunny joke.
@guilhermehsn7522
@guilhermehsn7522 3 жыл бұрын
4:20 it's stated in Gary Gygax's biography that DnD's medieval fantasy adventure scenario was heavily based upon the works of Robert E. Howard, even more than of J. R. R. Tolkien. Mainly the Conan and Kull stories that were published in pulp fiction magazines during the 1930s :)
@liyanxu
@liyanxu 3 жыл бұрын
"Dying to Survive" is the BEST Chinese movie in recent years. Maybe you can do a video on this movie.
@honestthoughts596
@honestthoughts596 3 жыл бұрын
I think the Chinese movie is spoiled by Kungfu, Bollywood by dance, and Hollywood by CGI. What makes it worse for Chinese movies is mixing movies with patriotism and also recently some knock-off CGI. On the contrary, Korean movies do not rely on these things, so they have to result to originality. This is what makes the movies great.
@bruh2652
@bruh2652 2 жыл бұрын
i watched the film too and i was in tears afterwards. I think people should realise that the best chinese films are the ones talking about humanity, the daily lives of people and social issues - dying to survive depicted issues related to pharmaceutical companies. chinese films often make you wonder and reflect about small things, while american films often suggest that people can defeat anything (disaster films). just like the difference between tang shan earthquake and san andreas. . .
@liyanxu
@liyanxu 2 жыл бұрын
@@bruh2652 i had to hold back my tears in the cinema
@doozledumbler5393
@doozledumbler5393 2 жыл бұрын
@@bruh2652 Anything by Luo Ye.
@gabrielwee2853
@gabrielwee2853 4 жыл бұрын
Being Chinese myself I feel that China is trying too hard to westernise when they can be who they were and I really love the culture and moral values. Its like I love them but they dont love themselves.
@jascrandom9855
@jascrandom9855 4 жыл бұрын
For me it feels more like the Chinese Filmmakers just want to play with their new VFX toys and forget about the story. Like Hollywood in 2000's.
@Sir_Zombie1ted
@Sir_Zombie1ted 4 жыл бұрын
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon is a one of a kind masterpiece because it uses CG in a subtle manner and tells a story, a consistent one with a consistent world and doesn't try to use every gimmick to appeal to the audience. It is the beauty and consistency that drives it. Now Crazy Kung fu or kung Fu by Stephen Chow is batshit crazy from the onset and has a consistent story in this consistently inconsistent world, it is dumb and it plays with it, makes fun through it with the landlady and stuff. My issue with Chinese movies right now: too much CG, cheap gimmicks to appeal to the audience (some serious recycled poop jokes) and some inconsistent world building (the world exists but isn't used properly).
@karimm2
@karimm2 4 жыл бұрын
Communists are destroying chinese culture and trying to westernize. They destroying ancient buildings and temples and want to become modernistic.
@BLstudios
@BLstudios 4 жыл бұрын
It's like they don't want western influence but want that western shit at the same time
@protocetus499
@protocetus499 4 жыл бұрын
@@BLstudios CCP are Destroying china
@madsli
@madsli 4 жыл бұрын
In case you didn't get the line: We were inspired by the Hall of Mirror in Versailles.
@brunowinovski2928
@brunowinovski2928 4 жыл бұрын
what doesn't it mean?
@yue_river
@yue_river 4 жыл бұрын
@@brunowinovski2928 it's a referance to the movie crazy rich asians
@ardinsalim9048
@ardinsalim9048 3 жыл бұрын
"all you can make is knock off" yes that's exactly right. not just movie either, i saw documentary about chinese cities recreating this famous european architecture as their core of identity. WHY??!! Chinese have magnificent and unique architecture with 4k years old rich history, which already inspired many cultures in their surrounding countries. why not recreate zhou or han dynasty monument instead of fake eiffel tower or fake big ben.
@christiepopify
@christiepopify 3 жыл бұрын
where can i watch that documentary?
@ardinsalim9048
@ardinsalim9048 3 жыл бұрын
@@christiepopify here on youtube, its about new cities in china but nobody live there so it became dead. developer built fake eiffel tower, fake big ben, one even has fake central park. again i ask why?? imagine chinese themed garden with beautiful cherry blossom and other east asian vegetation, pagoda in the middle of the lake with arch bridges. isn't that sound more appealing?
@christiepopify
@christiepopify 3 жыл бұрын
@@ardinsalim9048 I think I know which one you are talking about. I think it's just for commercial purpose similar to Disneyland. People always like things that are new and exotic and unlike architectures that Chinese are familiar with.
@ardinsalim9048
@ardinsalim9048 3 жыл бұрын
@@christiepopify well it fail to attract, unlike disneyland. i remember is not just the eiffel tower they faked but the entire champ-elysees. but only handfull peoples move-in so in the end it look like shanty town. empty, dirty and unmaintaned.
@christiepopify
@christiepopify 3 жыл бұрын
@@jonatanedriktanoto2100 But weren't the building barely had any people moved in? And they are tearing down brand new buildings? How wasteful.
@giomar89
@giomar89 3 жыл бұрын
You’re videoessays are consistenly SO GOOD! I’m binge watching your channel and I’m learning so much and your reflections are so interesting
@rnjebus5074
@rnjebus5074 5 жыл бұрын
This explains why the transformers movies do so good in China yet they're a joke here in the US
@kevinarriaza1951
@kevinarriaza1951 5 жыл бұрын
Rnjebus no. theyre a joke in china as well, and chinese people are sick of them too
@sws212
@sws212 5 жыл бұрын
Transformers is both a joke in China and a blockbuster (sales wise) in the US, what are you talking about? It's a bad series that keeps making money.
@iamlibra3014159
@iamlibra3014159 5 жыл бұрын
Na the later transformers are criticised in china aswell
@campkira
@campkira 5 жыл бұрын
China film market change, since rise of middle income.... Go to movie become a habit. I don't go for the story. They just want entertainment while US's ticket price so high. Sometime they had to pre-booking in advance.
@TheRishijoesanu
@TheRishijoesanu 5 жыл бұрын
@@kevinarriaza1951 Then why are they watching it? How did Venom and Aquaman become such big hits in China despite getting bad reviews?
@michaelmartin9022
@michaelmartin9022 4 жыл бұрын
"Who thought this looked good enough to release?" Somebody's not seen the majesty of Ugandan cinema.
@markusdee6136
@markusdee6136 4 жыл бұрын
"Commando! Supah kicker! Action packed movie from Uganda!"
@hexcrimson2511
@hexcrimson2511 4 жыл бұрын
@@markusdee6136 **big ben seperates from ground like heat seeking missile** "help us god!" **jesus statue in brazil duplicates and stops big ben by flexing**
@kyanwang8957
@kyanwang8957 4 жыл бұрын
@@hexcrimson2511 JESUS KUNG FU
@Vitorruy1
@Vitorruy1 4 жыл бұрын
They are great fun
@majeedmamah7457
@majeedmamah7457 4 жыл бұрын
He's actually made a video about on who killed captain alex.
@SixthFonist
@SixthFonist 3 жыл бұрын
A few things about fantasy: The influence of Tolkien's writing on D&D is generally overstated. Gary Gygax, one of the creators of D&D, hated Tolkien and mostly drew on the writing of Jack Vance. Factors common in RPGs, such as the emphasis on characters growing in power and the commonness of magic, bear little resemblance to Tolkien's writing, where supernatural power was only wielded my beings who were beyond mortals and humility was often the greatest virtue a hero could posess. JRPGs have their own differences from their pen-and-paper predecessors. D&D generally showed a world that was close to medieval Europe. JRPGs commonly include technology in some form or another (see: the genre's mainstay airship) as well as more overtly fantastical elements in general. For example, the clip in the video from Tales of Xillia shows the city of Fenmont, a city that sits in a land of perpetual night and is light by massive swamp trees.
@nattteo
@nattteo Жыл бұрын
Dude Jack Vance is majorly unappreciated, I feel like almost every character he wrote was basically a Mary Sue, but the worlds and scenarios he created were so fun to read that you basically just got wrapped up into it. I feel like "Mary Sue" is a bad way to describe this character type, since it functions essentially the same way Bella does in Twilight. Bella's not a Mary Sue, she's just an audience insert, and I feel like that needs a unique label, and I'm not really familiar with a good one if it exists. Regardless I can definitely see how his work would result in a lot of the concepts in DnD, but I think the influence of Tolkien is still pretty undeniable. Even if you don't like the man's work, the fantasy landscape was essentially defined by him, and having any sort of awareness of his work or awareness of derivative works is going to have a pretty major influence on anyone creating fantasy settings. I mean the default race options alone are basically just asking the question "Which LOTR character would you like to play?"
@enotsnavdier6867
@enotsnavdier6867 10 ай бұрын
But I mean, ultimately, it was inspired by Tolkien. He created the blueprint that nearly all future European fantasy was based on.
@itsourtubenow9729
@itsourtubenow9729 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like your explanation fits perfectly with filipino films as well! We very much lack identity. Even if we make a historical film, the story always takes place in the 1800's when we were still under Spanish rule, we barely see any pre colonial films.
@ninarances9074
@ninarances9074 3 жыл бұрын
You're right! I know the Philippines show pre-colonial shows or films too, but there are few and those were shown years ago. And I'm guessing not many people know about it. But I feel like, the reason why most of our historical stories are set during Spanish rule, is because that's the time period Pinoys were mainly taught about in schools. As for the pre colonial era, it's very rare. And I believe there are not too many records of it, due to it being burned and ruined and gone over the years😣😣.
@levronyames6680
@levronyames6680 Жыл бұрын
I wish they produced some historical films about the Spanish era in the Philippines during the 1700s or early 1800s. Filipino historical movies typically focus on the late XIX, the 1890s when there was an increasing independentist feeling raising among the population and they focus on that military conflict. Yet Filipino directors never make a movies about the actual life in the Spanish empire BEFORE the arrival of independentism. A movie set in the early 1800s or late 1700s showing the actual life in the Spanish Philippines is missing. I mean a film depicting the interactions between natives and Spaniards, without touching the military conflict of the late XIX century. Does anyone know any Filipino historical movie about the Spanish era NOT focused on the late military conflicts but rather on the lifestyle of the people?
@wanfarok
@wanfarok 4 жыл бұрын
China got great line of actors such as Andy lau, Tony leung, Donnie yen etc but films' cringy CGI effects, lame jokes, sexual innuendos made it sucks
@marachen8417
@marachen8417 4 жыл бұрын
Interestingly the actors you mentioned learned their craft in Hong Kong, before 1997. :)
@xin0
@xin0 4 жыл бұрын
Even the actors are becoming very bad! China is doing the same mistake Hollywood does by always casting the same well known actor/actress. Andy Lau acts in almost 75% of every Chinese movie I see. While I love Lois Koo and his amazing work in Flash Point, he too his being cast in almost 50% of every Chinese movie. They did the same for Simon Yam in the past. This is why I like Jackie Chan because in New Police Story, he actually used graduates to act in his movies. You see new faces acting in his moves, unlike other Chinese movies that keep casting the same damn faces. I only hand pick very few Chinese movie I would watch. Everything is so bad and over saturated now.
@marachen8417
@marachen8417 4 жыл бұрын
@@xin0 I agree on your point on Jackie Chan. If it wasn't for Jackie maybe we wouldn't have Daniel Wu...
@kingsouther
@kingsouther 4 жыл бұрын
@@marachen8417 I miss Hong Kong films pre 97!!!
@marachen8417
@marachen8417 4 жыл бұрын
@@kingsouther me too!!!!!!
@littlemissyyy
@littlemissyyy 3 жыл бұрын
As a Chinese growing up with western media, I cringe when watching Chinese movies during CNY while my parents and grandparents love and laugh at the jokes. I appreciate your take on this topic, I agree on every point.
@Pureony
@Pureony 3 жыл бұрын
Same
@medusianAllure
@medusianAllure 3 жыл бұрын
This!
@mdt5043
@mdt5043 3 жыл бұрын
Chinese humour & western humour is different
@mdt5043
@mdt5043 3 жыл бұрын
There are actually better non cringe movies out there
@jiji7250
@jiji7250 3 жыл бұрын
That's cause they have different humour idiot
@PratUshh
@PratUshh 3 жыл бұрын
From an art perspective: *They feel pretty soulless.*
@WalkingSideways
@WalkingSideways 2 жыл бұрын
I think most commercial films are soulless, but it makes it worst that they're just doing crappy versions of crappy films from Hollywood. It's all attention grabbing, money making crap. Too much money involved.
@leomirey1399
@leomirey1399 3 жыл бұрын
I would recommend ; 'The Looming Storm' - Dong Yue (2017) 'So Long, My Son' - Wang Xiaoshuai (2019) 'The Old Town Girls' - Shen Yu (2020) 'The Farewell' - Lulu Wang (2019) 'Drug War' - Johnnie To (2012) 'A Touch of Sin' - Jia Zhangke (2013) 'Shadow' - Zhang Yimou (2018 -not his best but still)
@AndrewWatchesMovies
@AndrewWatchesMovies 5 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention about censorship in China. A huge roadblock stopping Chinese cinemas from great.
@TheAzureNightmare
@TheAzureNightmare 5 жыл бұрын
"TSAO NI MA, THERE NO CENSORSHIP YOU STUPID, CHINA #1!!!" - CCP, the Tsars of Censorship, and architects of The Great Firewall.
@e32b61
@e32b61 5 жыл бұрын
Even in America, where films were always innovative and important, Cinema did not become truly great until censorship died in the 1970's.
@kevinkalibar4443
@kevinkalibar4443 5 жыл бұрын
this video is basically blaming everyone else for china's problems...
@kyris0
@kyris0 5 жыл бұрын
@@kevinkalibar4443 how did you get that out of this video? To me, it said exactly the opposite.
@sloppynyuszi
@sloppynyuszi 5 жыл бұрын
The problem with censorship is not even what you think it is. It’s constantly moving goal posts. No one knows what is allowed and isn’t and when it gets to go through censorship you submit with blind faith hoping they won’t construed anything super strange. Back in the day you could mostly hongbao your way through some of the random stuff that didn’t make sense as long as you weren’t anti China. Now it’s all about guanxi, some Hong bao, a KTV party and the Laowai directing has to know he is lower class citizen, and we laugh at him.
@joelelias3136
@joelelias3136 4 жыл бұрын
2:41: "When was the last time you heard anything good about China?" Oh man! A year later this question aged a little too well with the Corona virus. :/
@panzwes5993
@panzwes5993 4 жыл бұрын
That question hit me hard. The overall media coverage of anything China-related (including it's people) is negative - and not just about this Covid-19 situation. So it's not surprising citizens absorb that and start using phrases like "Your country".
@direwolfkaniz9192
@direwolfkaniz9192 4 жыл бұрын
Wessie P too be fair they are the only nation where punch of people just standing while a drug addict beating a kid to dead and yah the drug addict just lock up story end
@CITYSCAPE333
@CITYSCAPE333 4 жыл бұрын
Wessie P it’s well deserved.
@jojbenedoot7459
@jojbenedoot7459 4 жыл бұрын
@@CITYSCAPE333 no
@teslashark
@teslashark 4 жыл бұрын
@@panzwes5993 It's my country, but I can't just take a pocketful of dirt around to claim ownership
@bigsensei9366
@bigsensei9366 3 жыл бұрын
I was There when Mandarin movie were invading my country Indonesia just like K-Pop now, Andy Lau, Chow Yun Fat, Stephen chow, Samo Hung, Jacky Chan, Jet Lee, Tony Leung is some of my idol hero
@rockstopsthetraffic
@rockstopsthetraffic 3 жыл бұрын
I think this has explained non-Quebec Canadian cinema to me, as well. For a long time, it's been "we make the films with edgier social issues that the Americans won't!", or making knockoffs that might also pepper in those social issues.
@srshk257
@srshk257 5 жыл бұрын
A friend told me to watch a Chinese film called "Still Life" (三峡好人 by Jia Zhangke). Greatest movie I have ever seen. True masterpiece. I wish modern Chinese movies embrace their own history and identity like Still Life instead of running away from it. Nice video.
@goblinstomper
@goblinstomper 5 жыл бұрын
Jia is brilliant though, one of the best Chinese directors in the last thirty years
@rainmanslim4611
@rainmanslim4611 5 жыл бұрын
That kinda reminds me of this movie night I had with some Chinese exchange students a couple years ago. I bought some classic western movies (none of that superhero fluff) and they bought Chinese movies. There were a couple wannabe Hollywood knock-offs but so many were these AWESOME 80s and 90s king fu movies, some with great stories of betrayal, love, loss and more interspersed about them. There is so much potential within Chinese cinema, but it needs to find it's own identity, it was forming one in the 80s and 90s but now there are so many Hollywood knock-offs. In case you're wondering I showed them the fellowship of the ring, speed and schindler's list. (Not a dry eye in the house on the last one)
@campkira
@campkira 5 жыл бұрын
Chinese film industry is the same as Hollywood. They had concept go finance go fast make script next time their know, they had a deadline and it went to hell. All good movie in the world made by well plan on first stage long before got finance.
@boulderbash19700209
@boulderbash19700209 5 жыл бұрын
@@rainmanslim4611 1970s and 1980s? Chances are Hongkong or Taiwan. Not China. They were busy making communist propaganda movies back then.
@user-fj6qd3cx4i
@user-fj6qd3cx4i 5 жыл бұрын
"us and them" is also pretty good
@odiug95
@odiug95 4 жыл бұрын
Fun anecdote: I was always marveled by Versailles, and dreamt of visiting the palace. When I finally did, the experience was awful, because of how overpacked and rushed we felt while surrounded by Chinese tourists who just took photos and hardly even payed attention, just wanting to rush through the entire tour.
@nowhereman6019
@nowhereman6019 4 жыл бұрын
Imagine being a French king and not knowing that your royal palace would one day be massively visited by Chinese from the other end of the world.
@gurriato
@gurriato 4 жыл бұрын
The Chinese have a terrible attitude towards tourism in general. They are very big on "making the most out of the trip" in a checklist manner, with a heavy dependency on guided tours.
@melikechoc0
@melikechoc0 4 жыл бұрын
@@gurriato Many of the old Chinese tourists you see grew up in a time of poverty. Of course, they're going to be like that. The younger tourists most likely inherited this line of thinking.
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755
@viktoriyaserebryakov2755 4 жыл бұрын
@@gurriato They are called locusts in SEA. Can't leave your free samples sign up anymore unless you want to clean up after the blood bath that inevitably ensues when those Chinese tourists step off that bus.
@chizhang2765
@chizhang2765 4 жыл бұрын
Just pointing out the other side of the argument: a lot of the elderly Chinese tourists who relied on guided tours grew up in times of poverty, and had no chance and no incentives to develop foreign language skills. Group tours with a guide is the only way they can travel. You may not like them but I'm just saying this is the reason why you see them there.
@TheRealNiruz
@TheRealNiruz Жыл бұрын
great video as usual. I could do with probably only One iteration of "the halllll of versai-" however
@justsomedude2020
@justsomedude2020 3 жыл бұрын
5:26 Typical rich Chinese acting all high and mighty. This guy was asked a question and answered in a rude way while implying that American movies shouldn't be special. Sad to say however that what makes the Chinese movies great is now gone by trying to imitate Hollywood.
@19megamustaine85
@19megamustaine85 3 жыл бұрын
have you scene Spl killzone from 2005 ?
@alexanderludwigthaddeusvandarc
@alexanderludwigthaddeusvandarc 3 жыл бұрын
@@19megamustaine85 what that SPL? i think i heard when i was in middle school
@SuccessforLifester
@SuccessforLifester 4 жыл бұрын
The way Versailles was pronounced in the film actually has a comedic element to it. Sai (Psy) is actually feces in the dialects, Hokkien and Teochews. People in Singapore would understand
@paulludwigewaldvonkleist4039
@paulludwigewaldvonkleist4039 4 жыл бұрын
@Johnny Sack no, but the more u know
@itsnotwhatyouthinkicanexpl2810
@itsnotwhatyouthinkicanexpl2810 4 жыл бұрын
that feeling when Kingdom (a Japanese Manga) manages to come up with an entirely original story based on Chinese history :D
@Harshal378
@Harshal378 4 жыл бұрын
well, that's a weirdly good burn.
@karaqakkzl
@karaqakkzl 4 жыл бұрын
Dragon Ball is Journey to the West too
@isabellas4120
@isabellas4120 4 жыл бұрын
Oh, yes. Kingdom is a masterpiece of ancient Chinese history plus ficton. But it's Japanese...still amazing, though. Wish to see a good adaptation of it.
@chizhang2765
@chizhang2765 4 жыл бұрын
and 中華一番 (a Japanese anime) based its entire theme on Chinese gastronomy as well
@cavejohnson4306
@cavejohnson4306 4 жыл бұрын
Japan has always been good at taking advantage of China.
@MrQuocanh80
@MrQuocanh80 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts, I have subscribed and am now a fan.
@orangelita1128
@orangelita1128 3 жыл бұрын
I love this video essay! I think the same problem goes with my country's film and entertainment industry. Although we have exceptional films and TV series in store, the mainstream local movies shift to overused comedic stunts, unrealistic family fights, ridiculous love triangles and remakes from international films. I do wish the new generation of filmmakers and script writers of China, the Philippines, and other countries will be able to produce movies that are not only entertaining, but highly relevant to the masses.
@ethan20559
@ethan20559 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like a very good opposite of this is South Korean movies like train to busan and parasite, completely unique and very thoughtful
@eugeneng7064
@eugeneng7064 4 жыл бұрын
Watch Dying to Survive, it has very similar themes to Parasite
@silverdragon122
@silverdragon122 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed. That's a director who didn't feel the need to follow the American standard and everybody praises him for it. Which goes back to the theme of the video: why are you settling to be an imitation?
@ignazioacerenza9881
@ignazioacerenza9881 3 жыл бұрын
Train to Busan is not particularly thoughtful. You can see that the character driven piece hit was almost haphazard if you take into consideration Peninsula.
@ethan20559
@ethan20559 3 жыл бұрын
@@ignazioacerenza9881 the character developement of train to busan was masterful. Penninsula seems similar, but more action.
@ignazioacerenza9881
@ignazioacerenza9881 3 жыл бұрын
@@ethan20559 It's terrible. No social commentary beyond the usual: man is the real monster. Busan had a little bit more bite. heh, bite.
@Mike-ul1xn
@Mike-ul1xn 4 жыл бұрын
China arguably has the richest cultural history on the planet to draw inspiration from and somehow they can't figure out how.
@Pub4si
@Pub4si 4 жыл бұрын
Well Mao's cultural revolution and killing of educated people kinda ruined everything
@invertedv12powerhouse77
@invertedv12powerhouse77 4 жыл бұрын
With over a billion people and so many regions. You guys gotta have something.
@Pub4si
@Pub4si 4 жыл бұрын
@akshay Viswambharan don't u mean curry?
@isdattomatojuice9897
@isdattomatojuice9897 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pub4si Can't drink pure curry it hurts
@uiraideszen3223
@uiraideszen3223 4 жыл бұрын
@@Pub4si,curry is not taken everywhere or by everyone,fellow.Others states have it just for fancy.India Is way more more diverse and complex than that (look at the British Colonial rule?
@madrabbit4916
@madrabbit4916 Жыл бұрын
Just subscribed to your channel, your prospective on cinema is fascinating. Thank you for making videos :)
@Annokh
@Annokh 3 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad I've found your channel. You put so much effort into short videos that are so much on point, it's amazing. And your thoughtful view on actual problems frankly makes some some activists look like parody figures for their own ideals in comparison. It's interesting how this video resonates with what happens to cinema in my country. The situation here is very different in some ways, but very similar in others (like trying to squeeze into an occupied niche by trying to imitate). Funny, that. Even your cultural comment about "your country" idiom hits the spot for me now that I think about it - I too rarely specify what is that "my country" I'm talking about when I have to bring this up, like in this very comment.
@chickendrawsdogs3343
@chickendrawsdogs3343 5 жыл бұрын
Vietnam and China have never really had an easy relationship, but growing up, strangely enough we got to watch a lot of Chinese television series about the Three Kingdoms period, Emperor Qin, Generals of the Yang Family...and they had phenomenal settings, scenery and costumes - but what we always looked forward to are the battle scenes: zero CGI, full-costumed actors, horses...And then there were the wuxia series, particularly those based on Jin Yong novels (Condor Heroes, Heavenly Sword and Dragon Saber, The Smiling Wanderer...) with goofy martial arts, low-budget makeup, colorful costumes and cartoon-like acting, but with great stories nonetheless. There's a lot of untapped potential, but sadly just sitting there collecting dust while Chinese filmmakers are trying to imitate their contemporaries instead of looking to the uniqueness of their already established history and more.
@davidjacobs8558
@davidjacobs8558 5 жыл бұрын
unlimited budget does not equal quality product. just compare Star Wars original trilogy to prequels and sequels. prequels and sequels had tons of budget, CGI technology, but they are inferior movies.
@gedeyogam9096
@gedeyogam9096 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer the wuxia stories to be the old goofy but interesting rather than becoming full cgi but dull movies with no soul in it
@gedeyogam9096
@gedeyogam9096 5 жыл бұрын
@Hoàng Nguyên the red cliff and the andy lau version is still good man...is there another three kingdom movies?
@gedeyogam9096
@gedeyogam9096 5 жыл бұрын
@Hoàng Nguyên but is it as good as red cliff or the andy lau version? Or a flop like dynasty warriors 9?
@sinoroman
@sinoroman 5 жыл бұрын
i guess, stay away from CGI (as much as possible)
@karellen4913
@karellen4913 5 жыл бұрын
Watching this made me realizes why I am in love with Japanese movies from Akira Kurosawa and animation movies from Hayao Miyazaki and Makoto Shinkai, even though myself is not Japanese. The Japanese never even tried to make movies like the US has done up til now. Rather, the Japanese tries to bring their own culture and values. Rather than trying to make action movies which values personal strength like the US, Akira Kurosawa told us stories about loyalty and tragedy of samurais and daimyos during their struggle. These Akira Kurosawa's movies did not tell us that personal perseverance similar to US movies will win the day, but rather telling us the danger of blind loyalties and its subsequent tragedies for the samurais and daimyos. Hayao Miyazaki tells us stories about how to live with nature, that nature in itself is valuable and not merely tools for humans. This is Shinto values. Makoto Shinkai tells us stories about love and tragedy, and youthful optimism. On the other hand US movies tells us the story of its own values, innovation, cleverness, and believe in oneself, that through those power you will win the day. Which raises my final question, what values that the Chinese movies tries to depict? Hong Kong movies tries to depict that good conduct and practice will go back to help you in the end. Those martial artists are taught to be humble even though they are powerful, that from their power they have the responsibility, lest bad karma will comr back at you. Does the Chinese movies now try to depict the greatness of their own country, like Wolf Warrior? I'm sorry to say that that is not how you depict your cultural superiority. The best way is to draw from your own countries historical values and cultural heritage. Americans did this, Japanese did this, Hong Kongese did this. That is why their movies are great.
5 жыл бұрын
To be fair, Kurosawa was greatly influenced by non-japanese filmmakers and the Western genre. Kurosawa's films are still authentic stories, but that is not due to him limiting himself to only Japanese culture. Rather, he takes things from Western cinema and makes them his own. The line between imitation and inspiration is quite thin, but saying a film maker can only draw inspiration from their own culture is pushing it too far. A film can be authentic while still playing around with genres and tropes from other parts of the world.
@karellen4913
@karellen4913 5 жыл бұрын
@ That's a nice way to put it. Yes, you may be right that drawing inspiration from a nation's culture may not necessarily be exclusive to the directors from that nation, But, I always thought that it is never a coincidence that a movie is always the most popular to the country where it originates, and I suppose the reason must be because the values and norm shown in that particular movies reflects the values and norms of the society of that particular nations. Directors from other nation may draw inspiration from a foreign movies, but the message will be very different. Well, it's just my humble opinion. I may very well be wrong. Edit typo.
@keithkyli
@keithkyli 5 жыл бұрын
@@karellen4913 With the Cultural Revolution and lingering censorship, I am afraid very few people in China know about the essence of Chinese culture nowadays. Even depicting historical events may be viewed as subversive (well, you know, big events hint at unstable times). So they can only make some heavily sugarcoated romance movies, hilariously choreographed action films or hideously extravagant visual spectacles.
@dedi2s4vidz
@dedi2s4vidz 5 жыл бұрын
@@keithkyli have you seen old Chinese kungfu movies? Hilariously choreographed, but still enjoyable
@karellen4913
@karellen4913 5 жыл бұрын
@@keithkyli I've heard about Cultural Revolution, but I never knew that historical or cultural depiction nowadays could get you prosecuted for subversive behavior. If the extent of that is far-reaching, I guess PRC will have some kind of identity problem in the future (Communism in itself could not completely change the value of a country I believe).
@Nheye
@Nheye 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame that the Chinese cinema doesn't make same type of movies like they're used to, but instead chooses to be a second option of the Hollywood. You know I used to like Stephen Chow and Andy Lau but now there just not anyone like them anymore:(
@jinraigami3349
@jinraigami3349 3 жыл бұрын
I have been looking everywhere for this, but it is here along.
@zhiliyang4359
@zhiliyang4359 5 жыл бұрын
Finally, KZbin recommendation algorithm did something right.
@tsarstepan
@tsarstepan 5 жыл бұрын
It's been quite awhile since KZbin's algorithm highlighted an intelligent (okay ... ANY new) film theory/analysis channel. They spend far too much time trying to shove their perceived "trending" video channels and KZbin Red (or whatever it's called now). I X the suggestion out. KZbin? "We'll stop recommending these types of videos." In two or three days later? They recommend the exact same videos as before.
@AlexM-wq7in
@AlexM-wq7in 5 жыл бұрын
I know! I've been extremely disappointed with the KZbin algorithm recently.
@barryhercules6486
@barryhercules6486 5 жыл бұрын
I don't know Zhili, I guess everyone's personal experience with youtube is completely different. But for me: KZbins is accurate to a point as if its reading / predicting my thoughts. In fact it's scarily accurate. I am fully aware of the many methods the algorithm employs: +KZbin history +Internet search history +phone speaker Inc private conversations +Any Streaming viewed by your IP address +WhatsApp messages +most likely Facebook (I'm not on it) Specfic Elements and details of the the above categories immediately turn up on my KZbin home page (scroll through). Now I understand the methods used in connection to items appearing on that scroll list. *However* I can be thinking of some obscure random undiscussed subject.... It more often than not will swiftly appear in that very long scroll list It may not be at the top. But it will be there. Were talking from Trillions upon Trillions of options and the utterly obscure stuff I was thinking about will appear. The alogoritms have ascended to the next level. Some of us are aware. Most of us are not. And yes the modern Chinese movies are a bit pants.
@Netherfly
@Netherfly 5 жыл бұрын
I know, right? First time in a long time I've gotten a recommendation for an actual good channel, and not just some whining nazi.
@MrSimonsmoke
@MrSimonsmoke 5 жыл бұрын
YEAH!
@Linkmitch
@Linkmitch 3 жыл бұрын
Here's the problem with the thing that the director of Wolf Warrior said about American movie heroes. The trope about the 'invincible Hollywood Action Hero ' is an outdated concept that has been deconstructed, parodied and lampshaded as a relic of 80's American action blockbuster. Any character that seems 'bulletproof' is because either the justification being under the circumstance of superpowers/misc. advantages or that in context of the movie it's put it, incredibly silly like some kind of 'action clown'. Ever notice why we call movies like the expendables dumb fun? Cause the concept is actually stupid, but reconstructed in a fun way, like a bullet circus and it's lead actors being the action clowns. It's a trend for action movies or just cinema in general to show it's protagonists as human and grounded that is:- not impervious to failure, showing vulnerabilities, inaptness for certain things, emotionally grounded, questioning authorities etc. We can see this in mission impossible with Ethan hunt straight up losing fights whiteout help, James bond kidnapped stripped down naked and tortured, John wick loosing most of what he has including his fingers *Yikes*. Not only is he trying to imitate another form of cinema but an imitation of an outdated concept without understanding it not realizing his characters are clowns, and he is stuck making these poor outdated imitations because trying to understand these concepts requires you to start thinking critically about the genre and ask questions, trope = why? And you know how the government of China feels about critical thinking and asking why :) BIG YIKES
@leonwoo
@leonwoo 3 жыл бұрын
Word, you said exactly what I was thinking. I'm fine with people copying ideas or trope, if it's good, I have no qualms seeing it elsewhere, but the problem is not everyone understands the context where that idea or trope came. They see it in a parody movie, and transplant it wholesale to a serious action genre without actually understanding why people found it fun in the first place. Too many times I see Chinese movies now rely on flashy CG, with laughably shallow antagonists (who are 90% of the time an evil Western dude) and the hero who can do no wrong and always gets the girl.
@drakashrakenburgproduction5369
@drakashrakenburgproduction5369 3 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That director's thinking is outdated. I mean think about it. When people look back on the Rambo films, most will say the first one is the best. Rambo only kills one guy. The movie was more about the abuse that returning Vietnam War veterans endured and PTSD. The most powerful and memorable scene was when Rambo had a breakdown and finally opened up on why he cracked. The other Rambo films are seen as a joke now along with the whole one man army movies that were popular in the eighties. Like you said now our action heroes are shown as vulnerable and human which is far better because we can relate better and it's more realistic. That director is such a tool for the CCP and you can tell by watching his cringey Wolf Warrior movies.
@MasterofGamesBr
@MasterofGamesBr 3 жыл бұрын
Taken or John Wick prove that the concept of an american movie about a killing machine are very much alive, just not used on a geopolitical setting.
@coolerdude42
@coolerdude42 3 жыл бұрын
@@leonwoo this is a real good take. It even shows in alot of modern popular Chinese ManHua (comics). It usually centers around the same trope of a protagonist who basically has all the advantages no one else has (either coz he got reincarnated, has past life knowledge, or some other contrived reason), and manages to be the OP hero in every situation with no weaknesses. Any foil they might have is a threat to someone else (loved one, friend, etc), never the MC in question. If the situation escalates, it's all good coz the protagonist already "cultivated" past the point for him to overcome it. It reflects their desire to be seen as invincible all the time without actually understanding character development, struggle, and human vulnerability. It always comes of as shallow. Which is a huge shame, because the setting and world building some of these ManHua's have created are actually interesting and worth getting into.
@drBulky
@drBulky 3 жыл бұрын
And the best thing abouth this is how the chinese actor actually so pissed to be asked that question, makes it real fun to watch
@EduardoEnlai
@EduardoEnlai 3 жыл бұрын
There is an Korean German philosopher named Byung Chul Han who has written about Shanzhai; a term which is used to described chinese knockoffs products. Han argues that rather than lacking an identity, copying is essential part of the Chinese identity and that these kind of products are not trying to steal the merit of what they copy but rather praising the object and trying to "make it better than the original" (which not always happens to be honest). In China copyright laws are not respected because art or products are more important than the artists or craftsmen that produce them. The new chinese Cinema does have an identity, it is a Shanzhai identity of copying and copying until they are able to make something better.
@mayuri4184
@mayuri4184 3 жыл бұрын
"wE wErE iNsPiReD bY tHe HaLl Of MiRrOr In VeRsAiLlEs." I dunno how Louis XIV would feel about this.
@Pshen2p
@Pshen2p 3 жыл бұрын
Funny story, a couple of years back I was asked to translate for a Chinese production team and author in a meeting with Anthony Russo, you know, Avengers. They wanted to pitch him the idea of making a "Chinese Avengers Type Story", using Journey to the West. The movie they were pitching was called 天蓬专, you know, the story of Pigboi in Journey to the West. It was the individual set up movie for the character. They were of course planning on making individual films for each of the main characters culminating in a team up and beginning the Journey as we know it. You know, Avengers style. The team was boasting about the budget and how they wanted to make it "Just like the Avengers Movies", they wanted to use the Hollywood CGI teams to do this. It was hilarious. The film never ended up getting made because in China you have to submit all prospective scripts to the Culture Ministry for approval and apparently they didn't get it. lol.
@coolerdude42
@coolerdude42 3 жыл бұрын
Man, China really milks too much from the teat that is Journey to the West.
@TheExtraterrestrial99
@TheExtraterrestrial99 3 жыл бұрын
Actually the collection of novels of Jin Yong(金庸) can really been make into movie or series from the first book to the last with a proper and beautiful staging to produce wuxia vibe. His novel always get remake by different director into movie or series but they never link it all together into a "universe". And many of those director produced really bad take on those novel. Only Zhang Ji Zhong(張紀中) really produce a well wuxia vibe, beautiful scenery, clothing and coloring, wording, songs and musics, and portrayal from those novel, from Demi-Gods and Semi-Devils(2003),The Legend of the Condor Heroes(2003), The Return of the Condor Heroes(2006) , Heavenly Sword and Dragon Slaying Sabre(2009) , The Smiling, Proud Wanderer(2001) and Royal Tramp(2008) . Too bad these series are not being produced in the order of those book and didn't really link it all to create an exact same "universe".
@democard1199
@democard1199 3 жыл бұрын
Yep, you're need to get rid of Culture Ministry, then you get the story. Anyway, I like the og journey to the west, no need to change it with massive amount of CGI without any storytelling. The og is good enough, because the character development is beautiful (even though the majority of it centered in Wu Kong), and that's the good thing.
@mr.goblin6039
@mr.goblin6039 3 жыл бұрын
@@coolerdude42 Tbf, it's one of the most popular literary works of all time. Hollywood kind does the same thing with works like Dracula, Frankenstein and Greek Mythology, and now they're catching unto to Journey to the West. lol
@tayslaywift9361
@tayslaywift9361 2 жыл бұрын
@@democard1199 Good luck with that lol. Chicom is not going to give up their iron grips on the people any time soon.
@jmalmsten
@jmalmsten 5 жыл бұрын
For me, I lost interest in Chinese movies when the films stopped being made by filmmakers and instead became made by the chinese government. There is no edge left. It's manufactured plastic. A lifeless consumable. And I guess there are still quality filmmaking being done there, but we usually do not get to see it. I hesitate to use a term that probably has lost its meaning... but.. Chinese cinema needs more... uhm... Punk...
@kuplamuovisandaali
@kuplamuovisandaali 4 жыл бұрын
THIS!! Seriously they have lost so much. And the constant propaganda (not that western movies don't have it....). But there are still some good ones...(somewhere, i hope, i kind of stopped watching) I don't know how they are gonna do things when the insane bans strike.
@royals1231
@royals1231 4 жыл бұрын
Makes me sad...an example of an industry that has sold it's soul to the devil...
@nightvisiongoggles
@nightvisiongoggles 4 жыл бұрын
Zhang Yimou still makes good Mainland Chinese films. There may be propaganda here and there, but when he has free rein his films are truly marvelous.
@brumels1570
@brumels1570 4 жыл бұрын
@@nightvisiongoggles His movies has far more style than substance. The real Chinese filmmaker with soul is Ang Lee.
@brumels1570
@brumels1570 4 жыл бұрын
I dont care about edge. I just want to see a good story with good actors. Not a brain damaging video game movie with people who look pretty but have the acting skill more appropriate to a kids cartoon show.
@exukvera
@exukvera 3 жыл бұрын
"When was the last time you heard anything good about China?" And this question was asked BEFORE the pandemic.
@nasiayamsususoya
@nasiayamsususoya 3 жыл бұрын
been having this feeling but couldn't pinpoint it, you've scratched my itch!
@captainonetake
@captainonetake 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for mentioning the film industry in China, I use to be an actor Beijing from 2009 to 2014. At that time we didn’t say Chinese movies, we said Shanghai movies Hong Kong movies Taiwan movies and mainland movies (usually Beijing) but nowadays it’s called Chinese movies. And yes I must say it has changed a lot since 2014, before that the mainland industry had their own style different from Hong Kong and Shanghai. Now it’s almost impossible to tell the difference, and technology has improved a lot. My last series Marriage Cuisine was the first tv series in the mainland industry with the new technology, that was because we had people from South Korea who were technicians and now now every series has the new technology since then. I have to subscribed to your channel and look forward to see more videos.
@CvijaFaQ
@CvijaFaQ 4 жыл бұрын
I don't like the answer of that Chinese director at all. Well first he's comparing movies that are over 30 years apart from one another and even then Rambo 2&3 got plenty of criticism for being both unrealistic and being propaganda movies. American movies today would not get that pass, they would be criticized just as Wolf Warrior is. I think the whole "if they do it, why can't we?" argument is both unproductive and childish used by anyone anywhere.
@theamazingballroom5712
@theamazingballroom5712 4 жыл бұрын
Captain America??? "If they do it, why can't we" is not unproductive. It is empowering. Why can't Chinese heroes save the world? Why can't Chinese soldiers be strong and righteous? This is our story. We are sick of being told that our people can't be heroes, our people can't be strong and our people can't be righteous.
@silverdragon122
@silverdragon122 3 жыл бұрын
@@theamazingballroom5712 it is unproductive. Be better than they are. If they make shit movies is your response going to be " why shouldn't we make shitty movies too?" You can be strong and righteous. It just doesn't need to follow the American standard. And yes, Rambo is basically a propoganda movie from 30 years ago.
@theamazingballroom5712
@theamazingballroom5712 3 жыл бұрын
@@silverdragon122 Yet Rambo is a very successful propaganda movie and the propaganda still goes on with 007, Captain America. I for one enjoy seeing Chinese soldiers be righteous with Western villains.
@silverdragon122
@silverdragon122 3 жыл бұрын
@@theamazingballroom5712 James Bond is not propaganda. He gets captured in all his movies and in Casino Royale he gets tortured. In some James bond movies he gets information from the american CIA. Captain America may have started as propaganda(it did). But if you actually watch the MCU he turns his back on america. That's what Civil War was all about. Yes Rambo was successful for it's time. But nobody with sense would say it's NOT a propaganda movie. You can find a bunch of critics saying that it's propoganda (and it is). If you make movies like Rambo, then don't be surprised if people call it a propaganda film. Look at Parasite. People praise that movie for originality. That's what you should look up to. Not a propaganda film from 30 years ago.
@theamazingballroom5712
@theamazingballroom5712 3 жыл бұрын
@@silverdragon122 James Bond is not propaganda? Avengers are not propaganda? Those who has been oppressed dare not to agree. The bottomline is the Chinese, which is 20% of the world's population, has been longing to see Chinese being righteous, Chinese being strong, Chinese being heroic and Chinese telling the Imperialistic West, enough is enough, we are not taking your shit anymore, and this is a good enough story to tell, and the box office agrees. Expect more Wolf warrior success with the relentless American persecution of Chinese enterprise.
@jeanwesleynew
@jeanwesleynew 3 жыл бұрын
Uninspired cinema is hardly an issue unique to China. Modern superhero movies follow a well-worn path. If I see another Marvel character with the same brightly colored synthetic costume, I'll cry.
@adityashukla7849
@adityashukla7849 3 жыл бұрын
I think we can replace the term "China" with any other Asian country and your video would still be 100% relevant.
@absolutedave
@absolutedave 5 жыл бұрын
WHAT IS YOUR PROBLEM WITH BEING INSPIRED BY THE HALL OF MIRRORS IN VERSAILLES?
@YassoKuhl
@YassoKuhl 5 жыл бұрын
It's just a problem if you have no idea what the hall of mirrors in Versailles is about. How that kind of architecture works. What makes it work, what you need to imitate, what you need to adapt. You need to know how to be inspired by it properly without transgressing into citchyness!
@absolutedave
@absolutedave 5 жыл бұрын
@@YassoKuhl okay I guess. Like it was just a joke about the video and u have to be IGNORANT to not know the why and how the hall of mirror works PERIDOT so go and teach someone else
@YassoKuhl
@YassoKuhl 5 жыл бұрын
@@absolutedave Actually it doesn't seem to be trivial, considering how often people try to imitate the grandeur of European architecture and failing miserably in the process...
@katipunan4212
@katipunan4212 5 жыл бұрын
@@absolutedave There's a difference between being inspired and being a cheap knock off
@seanwoods5943
@seanwoods5943 5 жыл бұрын
It's not Chinese.
@we4803
@we4803 5 жыл бұрын
We were inspired by the Hall of Mirror in Versailles
@sammypan3528
@sammypan3528 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with this so much. There seems to be a return of "authentic Chinese" story though. Such as Fog Hill Of Five Elements (anime) and Black Wukong (Game in development)
@RemangGames
@RemangGames 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah... Used to love Chinese tv shows when I was a kid because of their unique stories and fighting sequences. Good days...
@alvinkuo777
@alvinkuo777 5 жыл бұрын
I do agree with your assessment. But telling your own story with Big Brother looking over your shoulder and trying to propagandize movies to portray China as strong and powerful tends to suppress creativity. Small films are still where Chinese directors like Jia Zhangke do best.
@jsthecanuck6804
@jsthecanuck6804 5 жыл бұрын
that 1984 reference tho
@avasmith1846
@avasmith1846 5 жыл бұрын
In the US we have our own kind of govt interference in films, especially in the Marvel movies and in the Transformer series. The US army paid big $$$ to add in parts that glorify the military
@zhaohuideng8836
@zhaohuideng8836 5 жыл бұрын
There is still much to say and present without touching sensitive issues of politics. Most Chinese movies are just bad at telling stories, and you can not even blame communist party for that.
@alvinkuo777
@alvinkuo777 5 жыл бұрын
@@zhaohuideng8836 Well there were recent problems of actors taking huge amounts of pay that diverted money going into the rest of the production. Too many movies and dramas were relying on star power. The government recently restricted the overall pay for actors to no more than 40% of the production cost I think, which is good. Also mainland China has problems with ticket inflation as well which the government is trying to crack down on. At the end of the day, China's film industry is still maturing. As per Sturgeon's Law, you still have gems like the Elephant Stands Still or Dying to Survive among a sea of crap. Just have to foster a better environment for budding directors in theaters and shows like Phantacity.
@bowmanc.7439
@bowmanc.7439 5 жыл бұрын
Yeah no. There are plenty of Chinese films these days try to criticise Chinese society, some even market on that. But the problem of bad writing and bad acting still exist so the movies are just objectively bad. That said, these movies that criticise China still showed in China and even got praised for the criticism before they realised how bad the movies are.
@ProxyDoug
@ProxyDoug 4 жыл бұрын
The fact some use "your country" when speaking about their own homeland is pretty depressing.
@tristanlau1213
@tristanlau1213 4 жыл бұрын
Cuz the country never belong to its people, it belongs to the 1%, which is the communist party of China
@CannibaLouiST
@CannibaLouiST 4 жыл бұрын
@@tristanlau1213 Actually less than 10% of the entire PRC population.
@bravodefeated9193
@bravodefeated9193 4 жыл бұрын
gotta distance yourself from the overproud nationalist
@megumiaki2244
@megumiaki2244 4 жыл бұрын
Just look at it in a positive way, It just like your majesty and your excellence in English, a kind of honorific.
@nerdomania24
@nerdomania24 4 жыл бұрын
Russians name their country "this country" and USSR "that country", west is called "after the hills"
@shaifuldawood6306
@shaifuldawood6306 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you. This is very good video. My last Chinese movie in the cinemas was The Rescue directed by Dante Lam. So I'm wondering if u r interested in making a video about Dante Lam and other Chinese filmmakers?
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