Why BJJ Athletes Turn To Steroids - Craig Jones

[@ChrisWillx]

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[@RyanBack-qp1jf]

Maybe Roids have a Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu problem

[@paulalexander2740]

You win! 🥇🏆Should have closed the comments after yours!

[@bjrnterjesen651]

Top comment 🥇

[@Snorlax-th6tl]

My sensei is a walking talking steroid

[@Socijala02]

lol

[@Plugonetwo]

Bravo!

[@50megatondiplomat28]

BJJ has been rampant with PED's for decades; this is definitely not anything new. People being honest and up front about it is relatively new.

[@JustNo8808]

They aren't being honest though. If they were being honest they would say that they are coming forward with it for clout.

[@HarietDubman]

@@JustNo8808what?

[@JustNo8808]

@@HarietDubman The people there are meeting to taking steroids in the recent years are doing so for attention. If there was negative consequences for admitting those things like there used to be, they wouldn't be doing it. In fact not only is there not negative consequences but there are positive consequences nowadays.

[@tougeattack123]

@@JustNo8808 why there should be negative consequences ?people want to juice to push their limits and its fine if every one is on gear there is no cheating i dont see any problem with that

[@jimmychitwood9442]

Any sport that doesn't test will have a huge PED problem.

[@anuragsinha2013]

Craig Jones is the best No Gay Jiu Jitsu artist in the ABCD competition.

[@Hairy.Whodini]

Not that there's anything wrong with that.

[@CarveYourLegacy]

Keep Jiu Jitsu gay 💯

[@timmurphy3769]

At least they're open about it... Certain UFC fighters always saying they're natty then hiding under the octagon to avoid random tests...

[@australienski6687]

250 ml of test + Anavar + low dose of deca is not TRT, it's a low dose cycle.

[@joeyfung-i]

He did say this is my stack. The test is a cruise/TRT dose but I agree adding anavar is not for therapy reasons. Some clinics I’ve heard of will prescribe deca but very low dose, spread out due to the long ester of deca. Some NPP would be better imo

[@dmythica]

Didn't he say ge only adds the anavar + deca close to competition.

[@joeyfung-i]

@@dmythica yea he did. Probably low dose T to cruise year round and adds them in to prep for a tourney or match. Now that I think about it… the pumps on Var + jiu jitsu must be ridiculous some days. Forearm pump 🤯

[@JlecHuk]

250mg of test alone is already not TRT, heck even 200mg will put 95% of people well above reference range

[@FFTuk]

@@JlecHuktrue 125-150 usually puts most people in the high ‘standard’ reference range

[@x-Musashi-x]

“I’m on trt so my balls are pretty small “ Lmao

[@joeylyons4549]

Dude I LOVE your honesty. Test. Anavar. Decca. Need more transparency like this

[@Ben-xf7uy]

I think we should do a "crack vs meth" division. Imagine the high level grappling we would get

[@nakrak8847]

Meth win easy

[@RaveyDavey]

I'd like to see drunk BJJ, in jeans and hoodies - make it more street real.

[@mikeguy9668]

Meth takes the trophy bro. 1st place gets new teeth

[@CarveYourLegacy]

Two q’s.. Who you thinks winning? Crack or meth? And if Craig Jones takes meth, does he beat a crackhead Gordon Ryan?

[@stevebiller4435]

That's actually a lot. Deca Anavar and 250 of test? That's not TRT.

[@yt.personal.identification]

Stack

[@YourtechdeptCoUk]

Most "TRT" that sportsmen take isn't TRT. It's just a euphemism for sub-bodybuilding juicing. It's not like all these young, fit dudes are likely to need TRT! Remember when all the UFC guys came as as needing 'TRT' - before Dana put a stop to it. RIdiculous.

[@Whoreallyknows]

It’s not that cut and dry. He didn’t provide anavar or deca dosages so we don’t know. 250 per week test will yield different results for different people. This was the standard TRT dose for a very long time. Micro dosing deca would be enough to protect the joints a dose like 50 mg a week and only taken as needed. Same with anavar 25 mg once or twice a week will provide results. Bodybuilding dose would be 50-100 mg per day for 6 weeks.

[@Will-S]

Craig is the most entertaining jiu jitsu athlete out there.

[@Nicatlotus]

It blows my mind. I started training BJJ in 2003, I remeber seeing all these champs Galvao, Rodolpho, Monson, Romulo Brral, Popovitch, Arona . I realize how naive I was and they were all roided out of thier minds and its crazy lol. I never heard a whisper about steroid use in my gym or anyone else I knew in the community.

[@Vilão-JabCanhão]

Arona era um autêntico bodybuilder 😂😂😂😂😂

[@sxhrgvs]

Never heard of this guy until this past week. Listened to him here and on Rogan. He’s the definition of not giving a f*ck. very funny guy.

[@jellophant9716]

He's one of the best

[@skindred1888]

Not seen him on Rogan before with volk ?

[@davidfife-nm7uy]

Never heard of him? Go back to your rock

[@ALSPEHEIR]

No. Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu has a steroid solution. The problem is not taking enough steroids.

[@vlada]

Paul Harris agrees.

[@kawhileonard9082]

Gordon Ryan is taking more than enough ahahhahhahaha

[@Snorlax-th6tl]

I like where this is going

[@jokesyfuntime4898]

Love that Craig Jones is not selling out. That'll keep him relevant and successful.

[@anuragsinha2013]

And you guys thought BJJ was about small guys being able to beat big guys because of the Gracie Jiu Jitsu.

[@lylemcdermott2566]

Haha, someone who sees the top 3 in each divisions and still believe that bs won't ever wake up to reality.

[@PhilSophia-ox7ep]

It WAS about that.

[@anuragsinha2013]

Captain America takes super soldier serum while others take Steroids. I like Marcelo Garcia, though... Marcelo Garcia is great.

[@anuragsinha2013]

​@@PhilSophia-ox7ep John Danaher upgraded and packaged Marcelo Garcia' moves really well. But Gracie' developed leverage RIGHT??? The whole thing is pretty much fakery to begin with. Except and I repeat Marcelo Garcia.

[@jellophant9716]

No one who does bjj says this. We are on the mats wrestling way bigger dudes. We know this.

[@markpeter506]

Juice-Jitsu

[@Gojimaru]

Jiu-jiucetsu

[@harryv6752]

Bruh... 😆

[@marshallgray645]

Craig Jones is a brilliant mind..much respect

[@KBLIZZ333]

Im 44 and not an athlete and I'm on 200mgs of Test/Cyp per week. Dr prescribed of course.

[@PerformanceThroughHealth]

TRT is like 160mg T per week depending on body weight etc

[@seamusmcinnes2678]

OK, doc.

[@BJJTips-u2n]

Awesome podcast. Love the honestly by Craig Jones. He is doing big things for the BJJ Community!

[@FagianoGiuseppe]

Power to this dude for being honest

[@weic85]

There should be just a juiced category in competition.

[@hapyharyhard0n581]

Love ICONs that are straight up real.

[@howey935]

I’ve been on TRT for 8 years after a motorbike accident because of the opiates I was given for pain relief caused opiates induced hypergonadism and my dose is a 100ml injection once a week. 250ml of test a week plus anavar and decca isn’t TRT that a steroid cycle

[@simonb4689]

No, they are just more open about it. All professional sports participants are juicing, every Olympians, etc.

[@celerywarrior6493]

Right. A better question is, do almost all professional sports have a PED/steroid problem & the answer is yes.

[@SnailHatan]

“No, they don’t all use roids! They just say they do more than others!” Huh? Try to write a coherent comment.

[@medpreventivabrasil]

I have taken care, I'm a sports medicine physician in Brazil, of several high performing athletes who have never juiced. I've had one specific that had used in the last, but when he finally got in a great mma event he was drug free for a long time. So I don't think everyone is juicing as much as we think.

[@DarkArtsDeepDive]

Every Olympian? That’s a crazy assumption and isn’t based on any facts.

[@simonb4689]

@@DarkArtsDeepDive you have any proof that any of them isn't juicing? Seems like you ain't based on any facts either

[@chriswagner1335]

I like the honesty, but I really wish the sport would make an effort to be clean. Sucks that everyone is doing TRT;even at relatively low comp levels it is widely encountered.

[@ed1726]

2:04 I love the comment. When you are going to do it and its secret you are left with a choice of idiots. I seriously wish more people would understand this lesson.

[@Kwarkiemodo]

If BJJ doesn't forbid PEDs, then they use whatever makes them stronger and better performing. Rather do a PEDs class seperated. Otherwise, it wouldn't be a fair fight.

[@letsssgooo4618]

250 a week damn. My endo said I was completely bottomed out and I ended taking 600mls a month which I finally felt good for the first time in years. But my it made my red blood cell count way to high. So this guys at 1000 and I’m sure he was never low in the first place. Wonder if he has the same problem.

[@DanEngell]

Is Jiu-Jitsu really that different with no pubic hair?

[@jeanlemondsportswear]

this is fucked and the sport needs cleaning up it sounds actually dangerous for the athletes as they are going to these crazy dudes giving them insane shit,

[@cromdaleblvd4677]

hell yeah i think criag should released out an instructional about this topic

[@lylemcdermott2566]

It depends on the individual, juice is tricky, you could be a non responder or hyper responder, it depends on what stuff you take, if it really is what your "pharmacist" sells you or it's water.

[@pedrolourenco5004]

I’m from Brazil, it’s easy to get roids legal or ilegal, and we get them

[@BrisaRuiva]

Im from Brazil too and it’s true, many people here are on roids

[@pinksupremacy6076]

@@BrisaRuiva Same in the west, although not sure about how rampant it is in the bjj community. But in the commercial gyms, there are a lot of roid abuse.

[@BrisaRuiva]

@@pinksupremacy6076 west where?

[@oritafilms]

hmmm...wasn"t bjj about the little skinny smaller guy using the gentle art technique on bigger stronger opponents?😂😅😂😅 i remember having trained in rio 10 years ago...there were a few brainless 45 year olds high on steroids....they had hulk bodies and looked like they were 60+...finished off faces, bad hair, i actually called them senhor instead of vc😅😅😅😅

[@BrisaRuiva]

@@oritafilms omg lol 😂😂😂😂

[@freeagent1001]

It’s honestly is why I love him 🙏👏

[@alhamdulio]

That's weird because with me, loss of explosiveness, debilating pumps et gassing out after 1 min of BJJ round comes from already 150 mg per week. I don't really get how some can be effective with 500 mg +

[@MSchon-qf3fl]

Therapeutic dose…plus a little anovar?!

[@Sigrdrifaz]

I think hes joking, he also says a low dose of Deca which is schedule 2 drug, its not light stuff. He knows he using hard stuff and joking that it Therapeutic.

[@OmegaSupremeWCheese]

LOL yeah a 250 dose a week, some anavar, and deca... Craig is hilarious, and funny part is you have no idea if he's telling the truth or just joking. I'm assuming joking on anavar and deca, but his blood pressure is notoriously through the roof.

[@um4668]

You can get deca and anavar prescribed for trt

[@thegoldenthread-greatstori6795]

Didn't find him to be joking at all. That's a very realistic stack for a bjj guy like that

[@Sigrdrifaz]

@@thegoldenthread-greatstori6795 from what I know about deca, it's for life, once you're on it you will always need exdrogenous test. I guess I find that a joke if you're saying it's just trt. At that point why not go all out and use a test stack?

[@musiccue6087]

What is the point of taking steroids bjj pays nothing unless you are a 5% top person - most white belts quit before purple belt

[@Yeahbruh200]

false reap accusations lmaoooo

[@reactor4]

200-250 a week...LOL.. I know guys take more way than that.. but come on that's double threptic and be probably more like 300. But man, Craig is refreshing with his honesty

[@seamusmcinnes2678]

"Double therapeutic"? OK, doc.

[@harvestblades]

Well knowing Craig this should be an educational & wild podcast. I'm looking forward to listening to it.

[@syntropy3020]

250/wk is no small stack

[@AJ-fp5uz]

Haha it’s literally as small as it can be without being trt

[@syntropy3020]

@@AJ-fp5uz well considering a healthy male only makes an endogenous amount of ~50mg/wk, and most see noticeable gains when only dosing 80-125mg/wk exogenously - which is the typical TRT dose range, this makes 250mg/wk quiet a lot at more than double what most people take for TRT.

[@AJ-fp5uz]

@@syntropy3020 50mg per week with no ester weight so it doesn’t directly translate plus not everyone responds the Same to testosterone and need up to 200 just to reach normal levels. Either way 250 is more than trt but it’s still a small ass cycle

[@tougeattack123]

250 might put some people above normal range but not all. If you don't have experience with testosterone or steroids its better to dont talk things you dont know

[@DanielDurham121]

Yeah 250mg will put most people at double (or more) natural levels. It’s not crazy compared to what many PED users take but still makes a huge difference.

[@MBRETION]

Yes... the answer is yes

[@crankpump8444]

Always been told to not take Anavar and deca at the same time

[@thlee3]

craig jones, supreme sensei of mexican ground karate

[@Snorlax-th6tl]

Did you guys see the response to IBJJF placing more strict testing protocols? So many athletes pulled out & protested so ibjjf never did it. I do BJJ but the community is meh.

[@stevengardner9564]

I can only imagine how sore and beat up you'd feel from doing BJJ 2 times a day 6-7 days per week. I feel sore after 5 days in a row doing only one class a day. Just from the recovery standpoint it makes a lot of sense, strength to a much lesser degree though maybe once you're competing at that high a level where everyone has great technique, strength could be the determining factor in who wins certain positions.

[@chriswaldron843]

The Bomba is cheaper there than supplements are.

[@matheuslara5380]

Straight speech my parça

[@kevinpeterson511]

And it actually works.

[@mastersmmaandfitness7661]

Craig is the honest guy

[@ACEOFTHEBLITZ]

The answer is yes lol

[@tededo]

Guilty as charge so they wont answer shit straight away

[@jonkayak5307]

All of them are juiced

[@realkrakenjiujitsu]

250/week is therapeutic for a 300 pound powerlifter that actively competes and his body no longer creates test on it’s own. He has to be trolling…

[@glenoh88]

Of course not…same as not all TDF cyclists aren’t on PED’s, same as Olympic weightlifters but A LOT are..

[@LC-hv1qn]

Harm reduction is just an example of a failed judicial system.

[@Grumpyoldman666]

100% if from Brazil

[@shannonsteven3982]

I was taking 250mg per week, but now knowing this I'm gonna take a ml a week... that basically guarantees I'm going to win ADCC against the 3 plumbers that are still competing

[@ho2673]

No

[@emoxvx]

I can't genuinely tell if Craig is on gear or not. He knows enough to be on it but he also loves trolling.

[@lordad]

he is.... the 250mg test is true... the rest is joking the benefit of such a dose is mostly way faster recovery and thats it

[@ButteredPecan17]

@@lordad "the rest is joking" - didn't sound like he was joking about the anavar and deca

[@zemm9003]

Yes

[@dynamicsoulslayer]

Craig obviously not hyper responsive to pharma grade hormones, because that would be gay.

[@paulg3397]

Meth before matches???

[@nakrak8847]

Many thai smoke It before fight

[@dalehall-bowden1083]

It was common to take before tae Kwan do matches back when I competed decades ago.

[@BillyCarrington-d3t]

“The gentle art”, huh lmao.

[@RobFinn-f3w]

YES

[@putopoveda]

People who think players of MLB, NBA, and NFL are not on PEDs are delusional. I respect his openness and his cycle mentioned is nothing crazy. Just keeping his hormones at optimal level to compete at the highest level. His cycle is probably similar to other pro athletes in other sports.

[@Notbobby159]

Probably

[@dasshape00]

What clinic he use in texas.. I'm looking for a clinic. Family doc has me on trt. But a tiny amount. I want a good clinic with expert. Family doc knows very little. And keeps me around 350. He'll avg for my age is 250 to 1000. So he won't get me to the 1000.

[@saradastrickman6406]

No. There aren't plenty of people who practice-regularly-who Aren't!

[@maxpflughoeft6806]

They are talking about competing though

[@bobby858]

Low dose stacks are just really good for maintenance and recovery. You're not really going to get off the chart performance enhancements

[@whiskyweasal89]

Magic mushrooms for an edge?!?! How does that work?

[@SapperRJMorgan]

Ooooo oooo oooo I can answer this one. Yes.

[@MP-db9sw]

Lets just say USADA aint invited

[@CageFreeLowFatSugarFreeRange]

Bjj might be the dirtiest sport of all time for peds and there 100% be tons of documentaries about it when these guys are old

[@rumchata6569]

Yes they are and that’s why they always suck in MMA. Can’t compete without the roids in real fights

[@PhilSophia-ox7ep]

The notion that MMA fighters don't use PEDs is absurd.

[@mavka.chorna]

Diaz brothers are BJJ guys and their entire camp was on steroids during their UFC career (including Jake Shields and Kron Gracie, who are also BJJ guys in MMA), they were just honest about it. Nate Diaz even famously admitted that everyone is on steroids. Other notable BJJ names in MMA, (UFC, Strikeforce in and Pride in particular) were Demian Maia, Luke Rockhold, Jose Aldo, Urijah Faber, Nogueira brothers, Matt Serra and many others, thus rendering your point about BJJ invalid. While Luke Rockhold and Urijah Faber might have been naturals, judging by their appearance, that doesn't mean they were naturals, they were just never caught.

[@josephmcmillion882]

Dude 250mg/week of cypionate test is very high....im 43 and take 100mg/wk to get my levels around 650. Add anavar on top of that you're definitely on a cycle not a "therapeutic" dose.

[@gnqan00]

Maybe for normal people but if you were to compare him to a bodybuilder that ain’t shit. Remember he’s using it to exceed his normal limits…not to supplement an imbalance.

[@josephmcmillion882]

@@gnqan00 I'm basing my response on the fact HE called it therapeutic.....which it isn't. Body building is a whole other discussion. What he's doing will catch up.

[@gnqan00]

@@josephmcmillion882 I get what you mean though. I was training 2-3 hours a day everyday from white to purple. Shit was grueling. I know the world class guys train more than that. I took therapeutic as he takes enough gear to recover from training hours everyday without breaking down. He’s not purposely blasting insane amounts other than what’s necessary.

[@josephmcmillion882]

@gnqan00 man I trained hard for 15yrs, someone that young doesn't need as much to "recover" he's doing it to get a competitive edge. I'm not judging, just don't call it therapeutic.

[@karikarisworld2693]

EXACTLY the reason why I wouldn’t compete. I’m not a druggy. Love bjj but don’t love the idea of doing drugs to be bigger better faster stronger sharper. Can’t do it naturally why bother n I’m over 40. So I’ll leave the conpeting to the druggies UNLESS I know there aren’t many druggies in my category when I’m ready

[@matthewreed2614]

therapeutic nose beers

[@youmang]

Is just trt considered “on steroids”

[@adriansonos7790]

Not this topic specifically, but I found this a hard watch. Chris behaves like some sycophantic individual which dilutes the key moments Craig talks about. A shame as this had potential.

[@blantant]

In the medical field, multiply by at least 2x

[@johnharris3335]

Because they don’t test

[@williamadamsbjj]

yes

[@anuragsinha2013]

Captain America takes super soldier serum while others take Steroids.

[@business_time2610]

Normalizing this does no favors to anyone...

[@timjenkins6049]

Not "all", just 100%..........

[@mbdulka]

200-250 a week is a bit more than a TRT dose .... but it's not crazy.

[@saljewsteinbergowitz]

No it's literally a therapeutic dosage buddy. Anywhere from 100-300 mgs is considered therapeutic btw. Go watch more plates more dates and get back here.

[@atticusvice3180]

No, only the good ones

[@tamamalosi]

2025 World IBJJF Division. Natural division. WADA tested. No athletes attend. Complete failure as a division.

[@liamscannell7387]

Where did you get that sleep token shirt from ?

[@magicalfrijoles6766]

Stacking 3 types of gear and downplays it. Yes, he's funny. He's not a good spokesperson for the sport though. Poeple will look back on these guys like Mack, Sosa, and Bonds in the 2000s.

[@BadgerBJJ]

This is no longer BJJ… It’s sports grappling on drugs.

[@AlphaToOmegaXG]

All dahastani Samba athletes seem to be.

[@LS-sx5qo]

Use of performance enhancing drugs is for wimps in any sport. Embracing the struggle is what forms character and skill. Says alot about the BJJ community.

[@deankruse2891]

Meanwhile USA wrestlers would ragdoll these broscience goofs with just good old fashioned sports performance and hard work

[@ptcosmos]

5:35 I love your channel and your audience, I'm gonna comment on ALL your videos for years until I reach your level of subscribers.

[@will_lagrone]

200 - 250 weekly is a high dose

[@jeffee1933]

More like steroids have a BJJ problem

[@bigtuss7482]

Does Craig love a bit of packet ? lol that’s what I thought the interviewer trying to say anyway

[@drain9993]

Imagine encouraging your children towards BJJ when these are the role models. Test injections, Orals, Coke, Mushrooms. WTH

[@devon4444]

A drug addict told me stay away from pills and powder

[@RaveyDavey]

Does he not risk being turned away from the US border by saying all this? Pretty sure the rules are that you cannot enter if you are convicted of drugs crimes or admit to breaking the laws?