Why China Thinks Its J-20 is Better than the F-35 or F-22

It’s not surprising that China claims that its J-20 stealth fighter is superior to the U.S. F-22 and F-35.
All nations like to claim their weapons are better than those of their adversaries (and if they don’t, it’s because they want more money for the defense budget).
But a Chinese defense magazine has gone a step further by describing how Chinese experts view the J-20 as superior to American jets in many - but not all - categories.

[@mastersuper7149]

As a Chinese, I haven't seen any (0) media saying it is better than F35 and F22......

[@rogersmith1408]

Ya it's not a true

[@user-mn1os2vg5c]

百年战忽，毁于一旦

[@spitfire7151]

战恐狂喜

[@lunaticcosmos5962]

Master Super As a Chinese,I have heard all of the media believe F35 is shit

[@mastersuper7149]

@@lunaticcosmos5962 I mean official media. Not those "self-made-media"

[@Allen-ih1fc]

I watched many Chinese military TV show, Actually No one (?) think about J-20 is better than F-22.

[@gassesv]

zhuonan that punctuation (?) I love it.

[@mikewonghongkee4480]

zhuonan ☝️only Chinazi 😎

[@wooz8804]

@@mikewonghongkee4480 傻逼

[@wzbmitbbs]

Mike Wong Hong Kee you dickhead

[@asianbabies]

Mike Wong Hong Kee shut up，sb

[@ershenlin1774]

The so-called "Chinese defense magazine" is actually a Japanese defense magazine, although it uses Chinese characters and looks like a Chinese magazine to the uninitiated. Is the video maker an idiot or is he trying to mislead the viewers?

[@xhotweb]

It's actually a Canadian magazine printed in Chinese, Japanese and English.

[@ershenlin1774]

@@xhotweb The editor 平可夫 is a Chinese, but an anti-government type of person, while his magazine 漢和防務評論 has a Japanese title (漢和 is a Japanese word, not a Chinese word; it means 中日 in Chinese or Sino-Japan in English), obviously targeting Japanese as well as Americans and dissidents in China. Since its title is in Japanese, I consider it a Japanese magazine with Chinese and English versions. On the other hand, if a magazine is published in Chinese with a Chinese title, I consider it a Chinese magazine, no matter where it is registered. The word Chinese/Japanese here refers to the language, not the country of publication.

[@shrek_2_on_dvd699]

@@xhotweb it's actually a gay magazine

[@xhotweb]

@@shrek_2_on_dvd699 😂

[@silentnomad84]

bllah blah blah

[@ronniedai3683]

Fun fact, non of the Chinese officials think J-20 is better than F-35 or F-22. They are very humble and just happy they can make stealth fight similar like US with a small portion of the budget.

[@JC-gf4sj]

Yep mostly with stolen tech

[@KK-cu1un]

@@JC-gf4sj Yeah, like, America builds all these mighty fighter jets on stolen land by killing native Americans.

[@JC-gf4sj]

@@KK-cu1un thats another topic, but since yoi brought it up, how about china taking tibet? Taking lands belonging to indians, and having the 9 nine dash line? Funny right

[@KK-cu1un]

​ @JC You do know a few things, but you only listen to one side of the story. That's sad. Tibet has been a part of China in a very particular way for at least a few hundred years, even though it enjoyed a very short period of independence in the early 1900s. I know you're gonna start the argument that the CCP never owned it....Yeah...brainless westerners. There were countless regime changes throughout Chinese history, but regardless of the regime, this land is still called China. And Indian lands? I thought they were taken by barbarian Brits back then. There were no clear borders between China and India. The UK drew a stupid line and created all the problems. To sum up, your western ancestors or masters, whatever the case may be, created all these problems and now stand at a moral high ground and pretend to be the nice ones who care about human rights. Yeah...tell this to the thousands and millions of lives claimed by Europeans and the US and they'd show you their middle fingers.

[@JC-gf4sj]

@@KK-cu1un lol, tibet was never part of china, its an empire on its own, your greedy ccp wants to claim everything in asia, no im not a westerner, im not anti chinese or china im anti ccp, and yes i know about maginot line. Dont lecture me,

[@james-huang]

A Taiwanese *expert* said: "Although J-20 is invisible to radars, it can be seen by people's eyes."

[@tliew3846]

Yes, Taiwanese experts also said they can bring down a jet by throwing rocks at it.

[@hygog]

taiwan expert said chinese can’t affords boils egg, no it is not a joke

[@tliew3846]

Taiwan experts also said they warned WHO of covid-19. Their claims are not a joke, but they are themselves a joke.

[@d1.004]

@@tliew3846 They have a greater standing regarding truth and honor to the rest of the world then the mainlanders controlled by the ccp. Once the ccp runs out of money what use are they ????

[@SW-dg9us]

如果说中国制造的东西和美国制造的东西一样好，那是因为这些设计被中国偷走了。但是在这种情况下，F-22猛禽可以击碎J-20

[@pnwclosetrider6658]

India says the j-20's stealth doesn't work. "we can see them with our existing radar with no modifications"

[@GHOST-yf2vb]

lol india their prime minister said he used clouds to hide their planes from Pakistan's radars they can't be trusted

[@nonyobussiness3440]

saqib wani because Pakistan doesn’t have good radar

[@shailz25]

@@GHOST-yf2vb Modi was right when he said about hiding in cloud because the only RADAR that Pakistan has or can afford is their eyes. Their military officers said it was night time so they couldn't retaliate.

[@sourabhkarkala343]

@@shailz25 that's the reason they sent their f16s in the day ..it shows they don't have the tech ..

[@darko8894]

@@shailz25 I remember that he said "we're ready to retaliate but unfortunately the attack happened at night"

[@skibumrx]

The f35 was kept small to keep the radar targeting down. Even if the plane is stealth does it’s size make it easier to radar lock? I also remember the reason why the f35 used single engine and slower speeds was to keep the heat signature down for missile lock and stealth. I’m assuming these planes aren’t as stealthy as they could be if equipped with a better engine, which is why they went ahead and made it a bit larger for multi role capability.

[@opcon3155]

Underestimating an adversary can be fatal China got some serious tech

[@dragonboy718]

trash

[@isjsb1235]

No, China's military is very backward

[@opcon3155]

@@isjsb1235 china’s military balloon scared the shit out of Americans I wonder what the dong feng missiles might do? 😂😂

[@The_Woodss]

​@@opcon3155🤣🤣🤣

[@slashlightning3261]

@@opcon3155 usa won't understimate anything, even if it's a fly. they will use a nuke on it if they have to.

[@gavinwang4731]

The magazine is a Canadian magazine😂😂😂😂so you should say the Canadian think the J20 better than F35 or F22

[@sanzhang975]

汉和！那谁战忽局的！真怀念！

[@dxw8180]

@@sanzhang975 哈哈

[@gavinwang4731]

@@SaltyPirate71 Do you mean the PLA pays people to scold themselves in front of the world? 😂😂😂

[@Gglsucksbigballz]

Gavin Wang You are clearly a WANG!

[@LockheedC-130HerculesOfficial]

Man idek what jets Canadas RCAF uses cus its so small..

[@SingleCelledRetardigrade]

Looking stealth and being stealth are 2 totally different things.

[@Al-hb2wo]

so what exactly are you trying to point out?

[@ThomasLee123]

If you look at closeups the Commie airplanes have huge cracks in their skin. Makes them an easy radar target even on old systems!

[@Al-hb2wo]

@@ThomasLee123 so are you trying to say that the j-20 has cracks on its skin?

[@akltom]

@@ThomasLee123 human eyes radar? new tech?🤣

[@jkjkhardcore666]

@@akltom some people are retarded.

[@svy292]

0:39 Kanwa Asian Defence is a monthly Canadian military magazine published by the Kanwa Information Center. It is published monthly in English and Chinese versions

[@michaelchristenbury552]

Thanks for the video, I needed a laugh!

[@mvisperas]

The J20's have favorable ratings in Alibaba.

[@reigak6599]

lmao

[@jadoofpv3462]

xDDDDDDDD

[@defyboom1153]

For people who wants f22 knockoff

[@seunosho4946]

Lolz

[@tituspaulus8639]

Hahaha

[@lwty]

On Chinese media, it was reported that J20 still has a long way to go to catch up.

[@davelowesky8054]

I don’t believe that for a second. It’s not in chinas nature to admit something like that

[@lwty]

@@davelowesky8054 Check the facts instead of making assumptions. And I am quite curious about your understanding of China’s nature.

[@cristianzeta9616]

@@lwty 自己艘国内的新闻。J20吊打F22好吗，不要光嘴？

[@cristianzeta9616]

@@lwty check facts instead of making assumptions? Who makes assumptions now?

[@lwty]

@@cristianzeta9616 如果认为个别自媒体就代表了中国媒体，那我无话可说

[@johntaylor762]

Do you get the great plastic leather seats and fittings as the China great Wall ute including 7 year warranty. 👍

[@Matthew-Anthony]

What are the songs at 5:23 and 9:41? Shazam is malfunctioning and giving me random, wrong answers.

[@Thori-bt8cx]

5:25 when you want that 10 minute mark on youtube.

[@predatorplays7156]

Underated comment..😂🤣😂🤣 LMAO

[@GlitchedBot]

hahaha

[@metdelta1]

Lmao😝😂😂 Exactly on point👏👌

[@crushfruits2660]

Yeah not even trying to cover that up lol

[@yoshibald8958]

3 ads in a 10 min vid how

[@308_Negra_Arroyo_Lane]

0:37 Kanwa Information Center, a news organization registered in Canada, was first established in 1993 in Toronto. Kanwa publishes two monthly magazines (Print/Online), the Chinese language Kanwa Defense Review and the English Language Kanwa Asian Defence, and operates one publishing house.

[@ohbogey]

Holy sh!t a good aerospace docu narrator!! Good pacing

[@scobiesview5137]

They sound like they are defensive platforms defending their assets from an offensive airborne assault.

[@getstuffed2391]

As soon as you said the f22 and f 35 were 4th gen and completely forgot about the f 22 getting it’s electronic warfare suit upgraded with f 35 tech I knew this video wasn’t properly made

[@saucejohnson9862]

The F22 isn’t getting F35 upgrades, its getting its own upgrades which are classified.

[@getstuffed2391]

@@saucejohnson9862 sorry I should have clarified some of the upgrades the f 22 are receiving are modified f 35 computers mainly processing systems and encryption technology

[@getstuffed2391]

@Christopher Schotts or is that what they want you too think do remember much of the aircraft is kept classified back when Australia made the Collins class submarine it was called a colossal fail by the media because all of the details on capabilities were kept classified some still are today but now that the information is declassified and the RIMPAC results are in it has been declared the most lethal, stealthy and effective submarine of its type and the same is happening with the short fin barracuda never judge a book by its cover until you read it and also no aircraft has a perfect streak the f 22 lost a dog fight with a French raffael a few years ago so of course dogfights have been lost just because you invested money into what should be a superior fighter doesn’t mean your fighter will win every time their are always weaknesses

[@getstuffed2391]

@Christopher Schotts so why didn’t the YF23 win furthermore why are countries still buying the f35 do you honestly think countries like Britain and Australia would buy it knowing the issues involved render it useless when has a system ever worked without falter the answers is never the Russians couldn’t develop the su 57 correctly so India left the program Britain’s type 45 destroyers engines were experimental and when exposed to warm water like that of northern Australia the Middle East and the pacific caused a complete engine failure requiring the ship to be towed a perfect system will never happen the engineers can complain all they want but the fact still remains this is what we have to work with and we have to adapt to it

[@getstuffed2391]

@Christopher Schotts one problem their not stealthy which means Russia’s a 400 anti aircraft missile will tear them to shreds it’s the reason why countries are trying to get their hands on stealth aircraft because Russia’s anti air capabilities are almost unrivalled you can call me naive for it but it still doesn’t change the facts s 400 is highly resistant to 4th gen aircraft electronic warfare excluding dedicated ew aircraft, can travel Mach 14 and has enough range to cover most of Europe and China is getting its hands on it too you want a good aircraft sweet but reality is now a good aircraft is one that is survivable also you seem to be forgetting that that one engine provides more power than an f 18 which probably explains why their testing lasers on the bloody thing warfare is a lot more complicated then it was 10 years ago and unfortunately now electronic warfare and cyber warfare are more powerful tools than speed and firepower you might want to start getting current instead of living in the past

[@penemuelwatcher2378]

I always thought the Chinese intended for it to be some high speed long range stealth interceptor. Its size reminds me of the Mig-31.

[@zoka7108]

It is smaller than F-22

[@penemuelwatcher2378]

@@zoka7108 It is bigger... even compared to the SU-57

[@sergeikorolev922]

@@penemuelwatcher2378 it's longer, but just a little, 21meters long, and SU27 is 20m and F22 19m. it's because the shape, like the short width, make it looks longer than it actually is.

[@capitalism2096]

The entire plane is designed around large missiles such as the PL-15, and its large body is for doing missions un the South China Sea.

[@marcelosoian]

a link to Aliexpress please??

[@hhudler]

I'm very happy that you think this aircraft is such a threat to the USA. Keep thinking that!

[@timothy740]

@hwangdi zhang lol the f22 isn't ancient, just because it was built a longer time ago doesn't mean its worse. Its still best air superiority fighter. Besides, the j20 hasn't even started full scale production yet. Keep dreaming, keep dreaming

[@timothy740]

@hwangdi zhang the rap does have aesa radar, and its getting a update for its electronics. Most of the stuff about j20 electronics and radar is classified, so its hard to compare on that area. Based on the size and shape, the j20 is probably less stealthy than the rap, and is probably less manuverable.

[@Obsidian-Nebula]

IMO, from the design point of view, it doesn't actually look that bad tho

[@user-qz5uo9so4u]

What do you know? You know shit and eat

[@chain2mnm1]

**Next: Why Iraq thinks its Mig-21 is better than F-22**

[@sessiztepe3350]

Hahahahaha 🤣

[@j1qqlydixkurayami72]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@Shubham_Bahirat]

@Ahmad Awad 😂 95 thousand Pakistani soldiers surrendered in 1971 All of them said same thing.

[@gautamshukla4433]

@Ahmad Awad we have got better jets then old scrap jf17 and f16....forget the mig21..😝😛 Do you remember 93000 hijdas and the four wars you lost..stay in your limits....my dear half dick..

[@fakhrialibol5139]

@Ahmad Awad Its hard to come out of Mig21. They will never forget it. lols

[@clipstube9827]

so... whats the name of music?

[@klt479]

So the f35 and f22 are 4th generation, lol. Now that's hilarious. I stopped listening when I heard this.

[@vandarkholme4745]

Actaully, the Russian and Chinese classification is 1 smaller than the American. They call su 27 and f 15 3rd generation too.

[@pangzhiyu8098]

There is a difference between the Russian/Chinese system and the NATO system. Please, read up before you embarrass yourself.

[@klt479]

@@pangzhiyu8098 I'm well aware of the differences. The post is in English not Chinese or Russisn. Let understand the intended audience before dropping combative posts. This video is clearly a propaganda piece intended for Chinese and Russian audiences with the appearance for NATO audiences. Watch it again with this understanding and nearly all the inaccurate, missing, and odd points will fall into place. Make sure you make an attempt to understand the source and agenda of thise dropping web posts before simply and blindly believing the content.

[@pangzhiyu8098]

@@klt479 Not really, from the source it sighted, and conclusions it made, the video is very clearly trying to establish the message that although J20s are a threat, the F22 and F35 are all round better platforms.

[@pangzhiyu8098]

@@klt479 Besides, what has that got to do with your ignorance of the difference between the two grading systems? I am attacking not because you displayed ignorance (everyone is ignorant, it is human nature for us to not know about things we are unfamiliar with), but because your use of language suggests that you have an arrogant mindset and completely refused to listen to the subsequent arguments made by the video because a certain peice of information was mismatched with yours and you are certain that you are the one who's right. Being ignorant is completely ok, in fact, I made a mistake in my first comment, the 4 gen grading system only applies to China and not to Russia. What is not ok is completely refusing to acknowledge the opponents view just because he or she cited peice of source that did not match your belief. I am not suggesting that you should follow the argument of the video. Just like you, the content maker also has insufficient knowledge in certain areas, demonstrated by how she literally cited the wrong origin of a source. But we should still listen to the argument first, then do our own individual research, then proceed to refute with our arsenal of sources.

[@departmentoftheeruseanroya9106]

The only thing I can say about the J-20 is that I think it looks really cool.

[@vkqtran4721]

Really? I think that jet looks like it’s trying too much to look like the f22 but instead ends up looking like an over-designed mess.

[@redfalconvfx7050]

@@vkqtran4721 no actually that design is fantastic for a supersonic stealth fighter... much better than F22... that design will let that fighter to fly faster than F22 with better maneuverability.... it looks like F22 I don't think so... but it has edges and some shape look-alike F22 you know why??? cox both of them are stealth fighter... for stealth purpose, they have to design like that.... look F22, F35, Su57, & J-20 has a very similar design for one reason(stealth) you can see most of all other jets are deferent from them.... it is not ether copying cox it is the only way that they can get what they want.... for exp: do you know that Russia also try to build a vertical take-off jet,(Yakovlev Yak-141) way before the US even try to build its vertical take-off jet,(F35)...Yakovlev Yak-141 and F35 are very much look-alike cox they both vertical take-off jets build for the same purpose unlike the UK vertical take-off so the UK one has a deferent design... as I say it is not copying

[@sovietpineapple7938]

@@redfalconvfx7050 The J-20 is speculated to go faster and possibly have a better turn rate, but it sacrifices BVR capabilities. The canards at the front and lack of parallel angles are the most obvious flaws. The YF-23 is a much better design for the purpose the J-20 is attempting to fill.

[@redfalconvfx7050]

@@sovietpineapple7938 yes your right

[@topgunablek]

Soviet Pineapple F23 dont even have a weapon bay yet

[@AnonymousSong]

Actually, no Chinese media even thinks that J-20 is better than F-22 or F-35. We are chasing the US's unbeatable capability and regarding that as where we are fighting for. We admit even after 20 years since F-22 was ever made, it's still the best 5th gen fighter in the world. No fighter else can compete F-22 in whichever quality and quantity.

[@Maverick_1887]

Everyone's a Gangster until the Russian Fighter walks in 🤣🤣🤣

[@bo1tyboi508]

U mean the su57?

[@Neptumtauri]

I only have one question: Chinese said J-20 is still in its "infancy" stage. And its engines and avionics could be replaced very soon for example the WS-15 engine

[@michaelwestmoreland2530]

"And if they don't, it's becuase they want an increase to the defense budget." *nods* A man of culture. /like /sub

[@RaicoRosenberg]

J-20 is made from parts available on AliExpress

[@Nadanparinda301]

Try out once..

[@krishnendusamanta2900]

🤣🤣🤣

[@ambarishboradewri9086]

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@pcbiex3334]

make your own

[@edwardchen3229]

我觉得这是友军，局里同志们谁告诉我这个同志的代号是啥，下回给他二营长意大利面来一碗

[@alan133]

Despite its size it can only carry 4 pl15s internally (fox-3s) and 2 pl10s (fox-2s) externally. Weird thing about it is it didn't even have a cannon. Thats as much missiles a f35 can carry except the fat amy have a cannon too. Seems weird to give it super maneuverablility without giving it a gun, making that feature useful for air shows only (its not going to stick around in bvm) The thing it has going for it is that it have a much larger range and thats about it.

[@MrUser1million]

This isn't the factualy important video I was hoping for but was definitely expecting.

[@michaeld1170]

The most common definition of super maneuverability is post stall maneuverability or the ability to maneuver below the stall speed. in that regard, the F-35, Su-27 and F/A-18 can do it and thus can be considered super maneuverable.

[@Wilderweincd]

pretty sure the us considerd super maneuveraility nothing thats desireable because once you are at stall speed your aircraft is pretty much dead in combat with multiple threats

[@PBMS123]

given the F22 has thrust vectoring its far more maneuverable.

[@MA-kr6yv]

@@Wilderweincd depending on the situation most of the time you dont want to be close to stalling speed it can have its uses

[@Perry_dAccard]

@@PBMS123 and tjen a Russian jet shows up and is even more maneuverable due to its multi axis thrust vecroring and all of a sudden maneuverability is not relevant anymore 🤷‍♂️

[@KiltedVeteran]

@@PBMS123 True, the F-22 does have thrust vectoring, it is only two dimensional, up and down. The Russian SU-57 can thrust vector in any direction and independently from each engine.

[@thenubbro4976]

I am really amused by the fact that the editors of the magzines found this many pros .

[@chandick1620]

so bigger is better, US should use B52 instead of F22 then, longer range, more capacity lol

[@mydearfather5192]

Just count how many patriotic Chinese youths loyal to their communist lord have and are studying STEM in America's top universities, thirstily absorbing latest western technology in mega multinational firms, applying its already sophisticated AI in military systems while their American counterparts are indulged in crabs like gender and diversity studies and creating race wars, then you won't laugh. Remember J-20 prototype has its first flighting test more than 10 years ago back in 2011？ It took china only 7 years from flying its first 3rd gen jet-fighter to next gen. Guess where are they now?

[@potatonoodlebear8035]

@@templarroystonofvasey I mean sure. If you wanna test it with your nation's military, we Chineses are very happy to oblige. 😊

[@potatonoodlebear8035]

@@templarroystonofvasey Well you can try. We will see who will be the loser. 🤝🇨🇳🤝

[@potatonoodlebear8035]

@@templarroystonofvasey ??? Do you even know China? Do you really expect Chinese Military to collapse in one day??? What is it? Alien invasion??? Bruhhhh. Ahhh, some westerners are just plain stupid for sure. It is fine.

[@user-wf4kq1st8z]

I am Chinese, and I have never heard a Chinese mainstream media mention that the J20 is more advanced than the F22 or F35.

[@johnlow3749]

低调低调

[@19822andy]

It's all fun and games until the flight control stick comes off mid loop and the cheap plastic breaks when you're trying to eject 🤣

[@jasonlee148]

Literally no one: This channel: "China thinks J-20 is better than F-35!"

[@jambonfromage8878]

USA as well

[@user-ue7kh9pj5h]

delirium 45x u sucks as f

[@Insert-Retarded-Reply-Here]

delirium 45x trump made US suck, and I’m not a commie so don’t bring that in here

[@jadoofpv3462]

@@jambonfromage8878 ton pseudo 😂😂😂😂😂😂 génie approuvé 👌

[@yanderemira293]

@@Insert-Retarded-Reply-Here actually, it's just you suck, don't bring trump here.😆

[@foofoo1445]

So i looked up the so-called "Chinese defense magazine" that you showed at the start, here's the wiki description: Kanwa Asian Defence is a monthly Canadian military magazine published by the Kanwa Information Center. It is published monthly in English and Chinese versions, the latter entitled 漢和防務評論. Umm, you see the problem here? The umm... *Canadian* part?

[@charlottexue8023]

@@dixonhill1108 could you link an article?

[@limcheating1]

@@dixonhill1108 Kanwa Asian Defence is well known for anti china stand

[@webber8581]

Man! The target audience of the video don't read Chinese, or know nothing about the magazine. So in the video they just need something looks like Chinese and name whatever it is as they want, as they always do...

[@szeyuanlee2517]

@@dixonhill1108 Its cute to see people like you who just love to make statements like "paid by CCP", "stealing tech", etc for facts that is too uncomfortable for you to swallow because it does not conform to you lack of open-mindedness.

[@raywhitehead730]

Well how many did they make so far?

[@stephenpatterson8031]

I didn't think China had a Airforce! And now they have experts? Lmao 🤣

[@dannywryt275]

Does anyone have any SAAB 21, Kenya is likely interested

[@Ayybob]

Did he just say "Thank You"?

[@peterbruno657]

Hopefully we never find out which jet is best.

[@shaunkong62]

I want two, I think I can link them to my mobile phone with an App..Problem is where to park the plane once I buy them...

[@bobross6869]

Lmao this was the same plane that got detected by Indias radar

[@phangchinhau]

and u believe india can detect it. u r india then

[@grandaurore]

When a F35 departure from US, a RCS reflector would be installed on it. So, it is the reason to see a F35 by radar, overseas.

[@pchu6695]

Bazinga

[@jjc4232]

@@phangchinhau lol 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@lykangaming9373]

@@phangchinhau commie bastard spotted 🤣

[@califinn]

A bunch of engineers at Area 51 are laughing their asses off...

[@szeyuanlee2517]

Yeah because their sec. of state said China is the only country now to challenge the US in terms of economy and Military? I think China would be happy if they are laughing, because the west has been so full of themselves the past decades that now they feel threaten by China's growing influence and strength. So keep it up, mentality like yours is what most western countries suffer from which lead to their downfall.

[@speedbagboxer7451]

In regards to fighter jets there’s gotta be a sweet spot in reference to size. For a bigger aircraft it’s true they hold more fuel.. but the added weight also burns more fuel. Is the trade off worth it considering u can always refuel in flight. Also the Raptor being smaller is way faster any more maneuverable. The Raptor can always get more fuel… but the J-20 can’t get smaller and faster.

[@stevenmrk7983]

Actually J-20 is lighter than the F-22 raptor…

[@MinhLe-fx9lf]

Another dot on F35’s radar. Then red button presses J-20 will become forever stealth.

[@jiokl7g9t6]

You've missed the point: they're not using unreliable engines; they're sitting on weaker but reliable interim engines until the ws-15s are ready.

[@Eleolius]

Some issues with the script... its is J20, not J22 (Mistake a few minutes in). Around 3 minutes the J20 is said to compete with "4th generation fighters like the F22". These are 5th gen fighters... not 4th gen.

[@Ep1cSh0tz1]

they are classified by china to be 4th gen... I think that was the joke. china 'obviously' created the 1st 5th gen fighter. Too bad it will be worse than the 4th gens.

[@toughwang2820]

@@Ep1cSh0tz1 4th or 5th is different standard that Russia and US are used to call,different definition but same meaning

[@kiketve2]

Those who think like that are mistaken, the aereal refuelers could be or should be armed with extra long range stealth misiles, lasers and other defensive measures

[@tbone7353]

Don't need mid-air refueling when you have carriers lol

[@DY-fy2jh]

What if the target is inland?

[@tbone7353]

@@DY-fy2jh point is china had a joke of aircraft carriers and the j20 can't be used from them so they would have to be coming from land bases US can park multiple aircraft carriers off the cost and destroy everything within about 500 miles inland after that they can pretty much do what they want also the j 20 is a POS that has been tracked by the Indian airforce with Su-30MKI using a radar almost 20 years old

[@paulking8707]

When I read the headline I instantly looked for the 😂

[@pauljs75]

Apparently they don't know that a side project of one of the new flying wing bombers is that there's also a KC based on that platform being considered too. Means stealth can be maintained along with range extension, so the lower endurance for the fighters on paper really isn't an issue.

[@pmnichols10]

Being stealth doesn't avoid detection and never did, the only advantage is that it's harder to target with self guided missiles. This is a definite check mate to the US invaders. Any attempt to threaten China will end with thousands of dead American sailors and pilots who never saw it coming. The Chinese will be back at the base toasting to victory before they hit the bottom of the ocean.

[@jimzeus7761]

very interesting point of view... Try to persuade those congressmen and senators of US.

[@gideon360]

It's not about the Plaine. It's about the experienced U.S. Pilots.

[@7521eric]

There's no way that delta style wing doesn't have big radar cross section.

[@totifernandez9532]

It cannot be a point-for-point comparison. Each country has a different strategy, depending on its geography, technology, and economy. Each weapon system is designed to play a role in that strategy, not for making comparisons. The lesson for America is try not to bring your war to distant shores. Or try to win without fighting or risking a fight.

[@user-kr7de7zv5j]

我同意

[@icedancer2370]

I mean, we are not going to let China invade Taiwan period. If that is American imperialism then I am fine with it.

[@SSS333-AAA]

glad to see a lot of people who watch this guy think objectively, there is wayy too much misinfo whenever it comes to vehicles meant for war. jesus don't get me started on the war thunder players.

[@fleetadmiralhazen]

Jet Fighters are a thing of beauty.

[@noway57]

I can always tell when flying over. So much power. Definitely can hear, feel the difference between that and a jet airliner

[@bedantagogoi281]

Do u know something j20 is not stealthy or the first one with cannards Its at most 4.5++

[@ryandow6213]

We're about ready to find out

[@jonasbarbery7193]

The first engagement between either f22 or f35 should cure them of their misconception.

[@zzirSnipzz1]

Typhoon will walk all over them kek

[@davidbertrand7069]

J-20s are so under powered they can’t get off the ground with a full compliment of weapons and a full tank of fuel. They have to pick.

[@andrewlim7751]

They've already fitted their own ws15 engines.

[@pangzhiyu8098]

@@andrewlim7751 It is WS10C. The WS10C met the original specs of the WS 15, so the new WS15 that is to be fitted on the newer J20s in 2022 will have a higher spec.

[@ABCDEFG-cj7mr]

More ignorant comment ever... F35 VTOL takes like half the fuel tank, talk about that

[@stokesbradley]

They might think its better becasue they don't know the specs of the F22 or F35..

[@tedchyn]

It depends whether it lives up to the advertisement. Just make sure it does not fly off the sky into the deep ocean like F35 did so many times during the training session.

[@dollarquantums]

I just bought one from Alibaba, a little bit of scratch here and there and occasional breakdown, so far so good, 3 stars.

[@hardtyme3]

Nice one!!😂😂

[@gregoryhall2967]

I'm waiting on mine I bought from Nigeria.

[@MasterGamer-gk9gc]

i bought one F 35 from ebay but unfortunately engine was not working properly 🥴

[@dollarquantums]

@@MasterGamer-gk9gc Of course, the engine is made in China.

[@yliang1688]

@@MasterGamer-gk9gc Is this TRUE that F 35 in on sale from ebay ???

[@rainie229]

0:37 Those 2 magazines in left is from Taiwan lol Maybe it’s bcuz we want to buy more advance weapons from the US

[@user-wd8wx5md5z]

Excellent observation.

[@kelvinmoses7777777]

Atleast you agree US has better weapons than you do.

[@ath_i]

U know bro Chinese products have no varaney it will stop working whenever it want to

[@SuperHyee]

Thanks !

[@charlestredway8253]

Like I have always said, Our F-16 pilots can annihilate China’s best fighters because it’s our pilots and their training that make the difference.

[@lukasbauer586]

and technology

[@_Chad_ThunderCock]

Yeah in an f16 I doubt they would be able to win against j20. Yes pilot experience plays a huge role but if there is also a huge technological Val between jets it matters just as much

[@traveler8052]

No . China did not say that. speak for yourself

[@hudrobin1671]

As a Chinese, we know our country is a developing country and what we did just try to protect ourself, we don't want to compare J20 and F22 or F35, F22/F35 is a big tory of superpower but J20 is not

[@hudrobin1671]

@Digvijay sandhu of course, why not? those place are below to China since 7 century.

[@wenjiewang6426]

The South China Sea belongs to China

[@wenjiewang6426]

Why do American soldiers come to Asia

[@largelampard3721]

@@hudrobin1671 7 century? China has a history less than 100 years. Know your history wtf. Do you also want to claim the land of Kazakhstan, Thailand, Korea? Oh wait, at that time "China" were being ruled by the Mongolians. So to your logic, Mongolians nowadays should claim and rule all of you.

[@AA-wd2or]

I wish to see what will MIG 41 change

[@hasanjohnh]

I use to think J-20 was just average until I witnessed it during one parade that thing is lightning in the thunderstorm.

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

J20 seem more like an interceptor than a actual strategic strike jet.

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

Correction i. Meant fighter jet as it is strategically designed to bring down USA logistical lines mainly to intercept refueling planes. The f35 and 22 are not good on fuel efficiency and distance they depend heavily on air refueling

[@Dennis-ns1yx]

@@dadsonworldwide3238 but is the J-20 that much better with fuel? It's not like it's massive compared to f-22 and fuel tank is also a thing.

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

@@Dennis-ns1yx I know there goal and strategy were to build j20 to go attack transport logistics and the refueling planes of America and not to challenge air superiority of America's fighters. Fuel efficiency was key to getting them to reach mid pacific and back. Therefore it is an interceptor more than a fighter.

[@Dennis-ns1yx]

@@dadsonworldwide3238 that make sense but wouldn't that be hard because fuel tanker fly far behind?

[@dadsonworldwide3238]

@@Dennis-ns1yx Well that's what military analyst have said. And I'm not sure that even china hadn't said as much. But our f22 and f35 both heavily rely on refueling. The f16 is the longer range mid size bomer roll. J20 is a land based plane .

[@ksingboy3262]

Probably we'll see it pretty soon in the Indo-pacific region. All these r world class fighters. Pilot skills will matter a lot.

[@grimeyflip]

None of these video talk about the pilots. There is no way they can match the US.

[@MM-wt2oo]

Good video. US has aggressively been working on drone fuelers lately. Also J20 needs a better engine to fully exploit its potential, but it is a formidable platform, especially the dual seater version which can be used in electronic attacks.

[@manveerghuman5276]

It's honestly a copycat design, the entire front end is a raptor rip-off and not to mention the sleep delta wing design.

[@nikhileshsingh8706]

@@manveerghuman5276 This is how you know the person knows nothing when he says one stealth plane is copy of f22. To achieve stealth, planes have to be shaped flat like that, if you look at other 5th generation planes, they all look similar. Just because your plane has two wings, one central cockpit and two engines doesn't mean it is copying others, it's the only way to design a plane.

[@manveerghuman5276]

@@nikhileshsingh8706 um that's why the SU-57 looks different to the F-22 right?

[@avrocat80]

@@nikhileshsingh8706 the j 20 is not a copy of f 22. it's a copy of the f 35. chinese government hackers stole the files from some australian defense company since us runs a lot of its jet tests in australia. which is why it looks like the autistic little brother of f 35.

[@Sam-vs2vw]

@@manveerghuman5276 and thats also why the Su57 is BARELY considered a 5th gen fighter.

[@dodoubleg2356]

CORRECTION...@2:40 you referred to the F-22 & F-35 as "4th generation aircraft." China can classify 'em however they want, but I thought at least this channel would refer to 'em correctly as 5th gen fighters. 🤔

[@fielddaysg07]

"made in china" missiles targeting F-35. ... I can see the US pilots quaking

[@sataka2546]

J 20 is designed for long range air interceptor mission. With its Long-range AAM all support aircrafts (non stealth) will be eliminated leaving behind F35 or F22 looking for place to land before they when out of fuel. In real war scenario they will most likely be force to ditch in the ocean, hence, it’s a 1 stone kills 2 birds tactical design.

[@EpochUnlocked]

So they Chinese are using old style fireship tactics with jets.

[@robertzendejas8349]

F22 & 35 can get refueled with low observable drones, a lot harder to target and hit than the KC tankers.

[@Matthew-Anthony]

@SATAKA The Chengdu J-20 Mighty Dragon is superior at air-to-air combat than the Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning II, because they were designed for two different roles. The J-20 is an air superiority fighter, whereas the F-35 is a multirole fighter. They are very close though in air-to-air performance. So close, in fact, that a battle between the two depends mostly on the pilots of the aircrafts. However, the Lockheed Martin F-22 Raptor is still the best air-to-air fighter in the world, and is better than the J-20 by a significant margin.

[@willng247]

Can’t wait to see these fighters in action.

[@michaelnolan6054]

Wow. Look at all those non-stealthy angled surfaces. Has the radar signature of skyscraper.

[@C4_LosCar]

Apple iphone vs Knockoff iphone

[@yzh2340]

对不起 你的ipone 现在没有人模仿，因为华为已经把ipone打趴下了~

[@nocolo123]

y zh lol this kid still thinks this is 2009

[@nocolo123]

LosCar Delgado thats why you are losing kid

[@ganlinxia706]

Apple vs Huawei, 4G vs 5G.

[@bojanvukobradovic2504]

@@user-uc5wm8dv8y so what's the point

[@bingyangyu6327]

I think the world should make a fighter jet competition, like the world cup where fighter jets are put on show in front of the TV. By then we don't need to guess who is better anymore and it would be a hell of a show, I can't wait to watch that.

[@JadyGrudd]

Perfect world, right?

[@Matthew-Anthony]

That kind of world cup would be especially useful for obtaining information about the specifications and effectiveness of fighter jets.

[@m1a2sepv4zplrgt]

jets are secret…

[@Matthew-Anthony]

@@m1a2sepv4zplrgtIf "jets are secret", how do you know about them? Are you a spy?

[@m1a2sepv4zplrgt]

@@Matthew-Anthony do you know any detail about f22, for example, the code of its control system?

[@bud389]

The day a J-20 can rival the F-22 is the day I piss thumbtacks.

[@user-rs3lm3ci2n]

Ws15 not even in service yet, is it already tagged as unreliable? That is the way out for f35?

[@dannygelbart6827]

F-22 is a 4th gen now? *thinking emoji*

[@randomasmr5238]

No, Chinese have different categories. J-20 & F-32 are 4th gen. su-30, f-16, j-10 are 3rd gen

[@josuad6890]

just the usual govt propaganda machine at work. no need to think about it too seriously.

[@douginorlando6260]

Two different missions ... j 20 is optimized as an ambush plane especially over the ocean. It will quickly sneak up from a great distance and release large missiles then run away. After the J20 is upgraded with thrust vectoring engines with more power, then that variant will also be used in close contact dogfights

[@waynefrench9314]

I believe that it's just to big for dog fighting. I don't think it was built for it. Only long range to protect there man made islands and there coast. It's made to sink our aircraft carriers. 🤔🤔👍😎

[@dbp_pc3500]

Dude there are no more dogfights. We are not in Top Gun.

[@james_l4337]

J20 have no guns, can only shoot missikes far off

[@cortney3280]

@@dbp_pc3500 well China does have alot of mig 21s still

[@GeneralBlorp]

Perfect weapon for an Asian army 😅 Running away has a rich history over there haha

[@dukethotness]

Yeah J20 is so stealthy that it got caught in the radar of our ancient flying coffin Mig 21

[@NoobNoobNews]

From a pure Geometry perspective, the J20 should be better in many things. The delta wing configuration should provide better lift and range. However, as is with many things in China, the question is if they actually built it correctly. There are a lot of under the hood materials that need to be in place for the J20 to do what the paper design says it can do, but no one knows if it any of it is real.

[@michaelngan99]

"but no one knows if it any of it is real." Actually, the J-20 is not real. It's all CGI and ChiCom propaganda to fool the American.

[@Battlegris]

Stealth my ass. That thing has a cross-section like the moon

[@indoroyale7848]

An indian SU-30MKI detected it across nepal

[@lilsweeny1678]

@@indoroyale7848 that one which got shot by a jf17 thunder? Hehehehe

[@shubhampatil.6861]

@David Lu your English can kill su 30 and me both

[@indoroyale7848]

@@lilsweeny1678 you F-16 didn't fare any better against our mig 21

[@indoroyale7848]

@Show Bobs and Vegana dude look at that thing su57 is only slightly more stealthy than f 18 hornets and look at this this it's cross section would be huge

[@kramnhoj42]

Their claim is yet to be proven unlike f22s and f35s which are already in service and are already tested. Is it me or does the j20 look like a counterfeit mix-mash of a f22 head and a euro Typhoon's body?

[@Mike-ry4mg]

I thought the same thing. Its a knock off. Works once then throw it away.

[@bojanvukobradovic2504]

@@Mike-ry4mg like f22 cost billion of dollars and after one flight must go on maintenance 😂😂😂

[@kasedunn3895]

@@bojanvukobradovic2504 actually that's incorrect...

[@bojanvukobradovic2504]

@@kasedunn3895 From what source don't use propaganda just attack that countries your policy is small countries never tried to atack enyone who is stronger even Iran oil my friend Petro dollars that's all about just a small group of people making money on you" Patriots" how many people are from different countries in yours army just because citizenship

[@bojanvukobradovic2504]

@@kasedunn3895 why do Russia need planes it's obsolete one rocket cost 70000 us dollars and yours plain 135 milion so don't go stealth whith f-117 like in my country

[@megane230f1]

might order one off wish to see if its anygood 😂

[@MrZZooh]

This seems better than the Sukhoi 35.

[@speedster1269]

Only way to know the answer: Dog fight!

[@John-rn1nm]

Actually not really. Dogfights are often a last resort in modern air combat.

[@LRRPFco52]

Dog fights are accidental if anything in modern air combat, at least among nations who have purchased F-16s, F-15s, F/A-18s, Su-30MKs, etc. and are equipped with Helmet-Cued HOBS missiles, have AWACS support, and good BVR missiles. Nobody wants to fly within visual range and hasn't wanted to do so for many, many years due to the proliferation of all-aspect IR missiles back in the 1980s, followed by the proliferation of HOBS missiles in the late 1980s and onward. Throw AESAs and ASPJs or the new era of digital self-protection suites from the US, France, Russia, and Israel into the mix and stand-off ranges have increased significantly, not just because of BVR missiles. 5th Gen stomps all over all of the above and negates the advantages of 4th Gen +++ with the mentioned modernization cat & mouse game of capabilities and countermeasures. None of that crap is going to help you when F-22 or F-35 are hunting you as part of a combined 5th Gen/4th Gen multi-mission fighter force.

[@toughwang2820]

No,they don't have to.It's not designed for dog fight,Maybe Su-35 is better in dog fight.

[@LRRPFco52]

@@toughwang2820 The J-20 is very maneuverable for its size. I'm trying to think of a fighter in that weight class that is even close to that level of maneuverability. Given Chinese materials science, I won't be surprised if they bend them though. They censor all their news, so we don't know about any crashes or mishaps with the J-20.

[@user-pe3uh8rn4v]

You let two snipers with ghillie suit to dog fight?

[@leogonzales4634]

Not gonna lie, the j 20 looks sick

[@grand_scope808]

The DeLorean looked sick too but.......

[@GIN.356.A]

@@grand_scope808 DeLorean was not made by China though

[@ogc9649]

NITIAL JIANY yes sick man of Asia.

[@blothe5457]

US already flying 6th gen jets: I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you

[@ABCDEFG-cj7mr]

Yeah right, only in ur own imaginary universe does the US have 6 gen fighters.