Why conservatism failed & Douglas on ‘workaholism’ - The Week in 60 Minutes | SpectatorTV

[@samcad-ho3ze]

Douglas Murray is always a joy to listen to. The truth shines.

[@simonlakin5067]

Agreed Douglas is great.

[@thediscokidd]

Has he had Botox?

[@tocsa120ls]

he's delightfully mean :)

[@mantabond]

A cracking end. We utterly enjoyed the programme, not for the politics, but for the manner the politics was discussed.

[@taslimsadiq6892]

I forwarded to the end only to listen to Douglas Murray, I am his number one fan, could listen to him all day every day. What a brilliant mind this man has, truly a towering intellectual.

[@neilmccabe1498]

Just did exactly the same

[@foxtrotjulietbravo5536]

Same here except I AM his number one fan! ;)

[@babylongigolo]

But of an odd one this week

[@FindAReason-mi7go]

If this was a music festival then Murray is the only headliner.

[@ClaireGarrard]

​@@foxtrotjulietbravo5536 No, you're not. I am 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@triggerhappy3034]

Freddie and Douglas are fantastic, could listen to them all day long ✨

[@AndreeaLupea]

Yes!!!! Ditto! ❤

[@zoot4358]

Freddie's the top boy at the Spectator nowadays (in my humble opinion). Smoothest presenter & always kills it with the US coverage 👌

[@HamishBanish]

@@GQ2593 But Fraser is King Kong

[@monsieurgrigny]

You're not wrong.

[@pippipster6767]

He needs to speed it up a bit. Too slow with too many ums and arrrs. Irritating.

[@peterb5549]

Good program, Freddie and Dougie great finale, laughed out loud.

[@MiddleAgedBrit]

Douglas is right. When you are given a challenge always say yes! Then go back to the requester for detail if needed. Youngsters nowadays shy away from this stuff?

[@manusha1349]

Forwarded to Douglas Murray ❤ I'm addicted, I'm a Doug-laholic 😅 I'll show myself out .....

[@iwasglad122]

.....be right behind you! But we don't need therapy!

[@DJRockford83]

​@@iwasglad122i could make a ghey pun about your right behind you comment but I'm not going to do that

[@iwasglad122]

Gotta say it....letting the grey emerge is a really good thing, Douglas! Looking very distinguished and stylish. Like it!!

[@mikegray8776]

If a vote against the Tories would count as a vote against the WEF and the histrionic catastrophists, then I would happily subscribe. But everything in recent years would lead you to believe that Klaus and Greta will become ever more influential under the Islington mafia.

[@realMaverickBuckley]

Every Politician in the Western World has something to do with the WEF

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

We celebrate Sunak, as our first Prime Minister to lose his Party Leadership election. He was an active part of the draconian measures employed to fail to combat the mildest pandemic in human history while bankrupting the nation. Having learned those lessons, he now proposes banning smoking. For the record, I have never smoked but I have had a man brush his cigarette against the sleeve of my brand new jacket. Having put a burn mark in my jacket, he mumbled sorry but did not offer to pay for the replacement jacket that I had to purchase. I find smoking in public deeply unpleasant and anti social. I would never think to ban smoking.

[@EnglishTMTB]

Couldn't agree more... it'd be nice to have politicians with positions built on principles for a change, instead of driven by what polls well. In this regard we have no real choice at the next election at all... both parties present a united front as authoritarian and culturally left wing - the ONLY real significant difference then is how they'd handle the economy... Rishi's only saving grace being that Labours authoritarianism means they can't attack him for his reckless furlough spendathon. I couldn't agree more about the smoking ban plans, as a fellow lifelong non-smoker - it's a habit that's dying out anyway and will continue to decline, why compromise yourself morally unless you're desperate to make a show of being more authoritarian than the other guy?

[@spm36]

Wait till they find out the harms alcohol does! Put that vodka down hands up face the wall!

[@JckSwan]

What kind of jacket was it? I had a similar experience with a brand new fleece and a dog with muddy paws.

[@EnglishTMTB]

@@JckSwan that does it! Best get pooch up against the wall! /S

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

@@JckSwan It was a Berghaus fleece. I wasn't impressed.

[@NicholasStevensDrBiscuit]

I do love Douglas, but at 49.30 he says that something 'does not quite pass mustard any more' when of course the correct phrase is to 'pass muster' meaning to pass an inspection in a military setting.

[@pedazodetorpedo]

Yes I thought I heard mustard too and replayed it to confirm. Quite surprised that Douglas would make that mistake, as he is far more widely read than I will ever be.

[@mouseketeery]

Yes, I think he got "passing muster" and "cutting the mustard" smooshed together!

[@daviddawson9333]

Human idiocy laid out like a great buffet....................beautiful!

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

It is sad to hear in another podcast that Lionel Shriver, who loves our culture, is leaving to Portugal. Meanwhile, Kate Andrews who thinks that what the UK needs most desperately is open boarders to people with other cultures, is staying.

[@j.harrison6744]

All this rags cares about is the sacred GDP line going up. It's laughable that The Spectator is considered "conservative". Like the party it conserves nothing.

[@rioj14]

Love Douglas Murray! Could listen to him all day. 👏🏻

[@markl5990]

When Douglass moved to the US he seemed to buff up, start wearing polo shirts and colouring his hair. Pleased to see this was largely a phase, as sharp suits and distinguished grey suit his personality.

[@LS-xs7sg]

Conservatism did not fail it was abandoned and replaced with free market ideology. It is relatively easy to argue in favour of tradition from a philosophical, religious and scientific standpoint. It is just that nobody does it because conservatism is a kind of “natural” outlook that until now need not be positively argued for.

[@TheOrphicLyre]

You're correct, and I say this as a market liberal. Tories were traditionally protectionist, rather than free marketeers.

[@adtastic1533]

LOL! Since when have these Tories done anything free market? They can't even get rid of the EU regulations off the book and we ain't even in the EU. They're pro-bureaucracy, tax and spend, centrally planned, net zero, open border, social democrat centre Left. Just slightly less woke than Labour.

[@kenthhamner2641]

There’s nothing wrong with a free market as long as government: prevents monopolies from forming, ensures no collusion amongst players (price fixing) and doesn’t try to control which company wins! In a capitalist system with healthy competition the consumer has options and rewards the best value with patronage. If someone comes along and with no subsidies can give consumers a product or service they are willing to pay for its voluntary.

[@EnglishTMTB]

And when you look at cultural issues that abandonment becomes even clearer. We have a "conservative" party that's been consistently to the left of Blairite Labour (itself firmly centre-left) for its entire innings, minus maybe a few short weeks under Truss, but even then economics took the front seat. No wonder the working classes who are typically culturally conservative don't have a clue who to vote for!

[@LS-xs7sg]

@@kenthhamner2641 I also want the free market contrained by borders and questions of culture, aesthetics and morality. The National people comes first

[@pnewman8]

I love the way Freddie says "Hullo!" at the start. Worth watching just for that.

[@christinehirst317]

Every single section of the programme was brilliant tonight thank you

[@markthemovieman]

Great rockabilly quiff Dougie M is rocking these days.

[@peterdockerty8077]

Sir Anthony let’s not forget wrote 3 books on how bad Boris was, he is also a remainer and thinks illegal migrants are not relevant at the election. Therein lies the problem for the tories and Spectator

[@tcm81]

Well, he was sacked from his first job at the Times for making up a quote. His boss at the Telegraph, Max Hastings, famously has nothing good to say about him. Michael Howard sacked him for lying to his face. His own colleagues were so sick of being sent in front of the press with another tall story that they got rid of him. I would say he is a very difficult man to work with and someone who makes few friends.

[@jacksonmiked]

He’s a terrific headmaster. The kids look up to him.

[@peterdockerty8077]

@@jacksonmiked 100% agree and I admire him as a person but his politics are questionable just like those of The Spectator. Mr Nelson wants all illegals given amnesty, Ms Hardman married to a former Labour MP, Ms Balls married into the family of a lefty activist. Ms Andrews worked to get MIT Romney elected and he is a Republican in name only. It’s turned into a New Labour organ so a soft left liberal publication

[@caracalla6472]

Why? Is Sir Anthony Seldon a regular? Does anyone seriously imagine that his world view coincides with Freddy Gray's or Douglas Murray's? The Spectator is geared to the right of British politics, but it does not confine itself to a small thinkalike bubble, and long may that continue.

[@nightwingtrp7399]

I find it rich that the Speccy is finally asking "what have the tories been doing for 13 years?" since the Speccy has been at the forefront of tory apologism of failure to address critical cultural issues for the past decade. YOU ENABLED THIS!

[@gosiachaaban2484]

Fully agree about concerns around A levels. It's so limited, so early.

[@jonathandnicholson]

Thank you.

[@catintheuk]

I believe Elba spoke about feeling more relaxed to sit alone working in his studio than to be with his family on the sofa after coming home from working on set for a long time. I do think that's unhealthy, or at least neglectful of the family. Perhaps the question to ask is should driven people who devote a large amount of time to work have children?

[@GreenMorningDragonProductions]

You've gotta love Douglas. He talks bollocks with such authority.

[@okiwatashi2349]

When was this conservatism? It hasn’t been in the UK since the early 90s.

[@bentleycharles779]

Stanley talking hard sense, apu.

[@ChrysanthsMum]

Excellent! Thank you!

[@helentarry2692]

Wonderful programme

[@brianholmes3547]

For gods sake, why should bishops get a free seat in the lords?

[@christophermarcone5504]

The art of irritability. And work. And other addictions .. 🙃 an ongoing welcome & sober view on these bizarre times.

[@jezebeljones]

Tim Stanley not getting the trans issue at all. Those of us who campaigned for same sex marriage understand that Rishi's position is with us not against us. He needs to acquaint himself with the issues - just looks kinda ignorant otherwise.

[@Marktb363]

Great stuff 👍

[@God-dt7om]

Douglas brilliant as always!!

[@joseph_donovan]

I say, has Douglas Murray ever written about the abuse and misuse of apostrophe's in his working life? I only ask because I've trained my dog Boo to spot misplaced apostrophe's in signs and labels. I love that dog!

[@musicman5075]

Well its always true that talking about different types of qualification at 16-18 is much cheaper than the mundane process of recruiting enough teachers at all age groups, making sure they are properly paid, making sure they have sufficient teaching resources and making sure the school roofs don't fall on the students. All things that have been sorely lacking for the last 13 years and not mentioned by Sunak in his speech.

[@briangable08]

Bring back chalk n talk, dump the computers and screens, no wonder they don't hold onto or get teachers if all they do is scroll down the pad. There is too much tech and not enough passing on knowledge, a simplification I know, but I bet Douglas's knowledge did not arrive by means of a screen.

[@bonniejordan8192]

You two are funny. Thanks!

[@juliaogara8794]

Douglas hit he truth. Too many think they are owed, that they have a born right to something. You get what you want from hard work. Yes if you are made redundant then it's good to have something to help smooth the near future but beyond that well, get another job. I've clean toilets in hotels, cleaned house for a single male, run an office for a furniture manufacturing company and be a trained jeweller, and that's just a bit of my work life over nearly 40 years. Didn't always like what I was doing but it paid my bills and bought my children through to adulthood. I was made redundant in early 20's and retrained because I could type and I did agency work before getting back into a full time post. You have to be flexible and accept the only given thing in life is death.

[@dimitrikorsakov2570]

Great ending!

[@christopherbrookfield4785]

I want to see Douglas Murray in a Superman outfit. Singing the American national anthem. I reckon that would be even more hilarious than some of his comments. ❤❤❤

[@JohnLumgair]

Douglas "eloquent rants" Murray - is world class at being irritable.

[@pauldavis3460]

Superb

[@MarcusCorbett]

Dear Douglas, also point the finger at GPs who just don't want to return to work post lockdowns, or the dentists who left so many to suffer and still refuse to work harder and justify their Porsche cars leaving many in pain and having to pay extortionate costs for plain extraction, post the inevitable & unavoidable £70 check up and then X ray cost. Utter disgrace.

[@adixon6237]

Most GPs worked the same hours or more during the pandemic helping run Covid centres as well as their surgeries. We didn’t see many people face to face because of regulations on spacing. Most GP waiting rooms were not big enough for 2m spacing and working as normal. All GPs I know are now working as before the pandemic, there just aren’t enough of us so some sort of rationing system is necessary as you can only see so many patients a day and bea safe and sane doctor

[@cambo4156]

You clearly know nothing about the dental contracts within the NHS.

[@adixon6237]

We're not discussing dentists, we're discussing GPs. No one mentioned dentists. Are you replying to the wrong comment? my dentist is working as pre-pandemic again. No idea about other dentists, never claimed to be a dentist expert. @@cambo4156

[@roders007]

Another great show

[@frederickmiles327]

By the 1950s in both Britain and the United States the railways had ceased to fashionable or that important with most citizens, voters and politicians looking to the car for personal mobility and privacy and the airliner for future business and medium distance travel. The premature and flawed introduction of the jet and prop jet Comet and Viscount did enough in 1952 to be more impressive to the British public than the High Speed Mistral Electric rail tests in France which saw the wires rip at 205mph, which actually was seen by the French engineers that a successful post steam railway would actually have to be built on new lines and a tarted up steam railway even if electrified would not be fast enough. However in Britain as the Beeching report of 1962 showed almost all British rail passenger traffic both passenger and freight did not move more than 250 miles and the longest real high volume passenger corridor was London to Newcastle , 4 hours on a Gresley steam express. The 1954 Rail Modernisation was built on a political myth and ideology which saw electrification of the two main lines to Scotland. as the main aim. Beechings figures showed the actual English Scottish transnational rail traffic in numbers, tonnage, volume and profitability was a very thin line between Newcastle and Edinburgh and Carlisle and Glasgow and he doubted if there was any point in continuing the Manchester Glasgow electrification ( In 1960.Glasgow was the second city in the Commonwealth by the time electrification to Glasgow was completed in 1974 the city population had halved, it shipyards closed and it was a red row of slums rather than a red wall of potential conservatives. Churchill and MacMillan even in 1954 viewed the railways mainly in survivalist terms as a social service to be preserved with cheap diesel and railcar modernisation against the possibility that in a post nuclear war scenario it might be useful.Certainly MacMillan as a former GWR director on the board as Stanley Baldwin had been saw that the Railways indebted by 1956 and could never be profitable again. Simply not paying dividends in bad years as the old GWR did was no longer possible and neither was it possible politically to terminate half the permanent loss by closing the Cambrian or Highland lines.Wilson whose Oxford and bureaucratic career was started by a brilliant thesis on the Nineteenth century railway economics understood Railways were no longer fashionable an better never mentioned and Blair and Thatcher saw that. So as usual Tony Crosland was wheeled in to pen the 1977 Orange paper on transport which was the core of the railway model from 1978 to 2010 of abandoning rails role as a common freight carrier and rather than building airports or new raills using the existing railway system as a high priced alternative to domestic air travel and we th the intercity 125 railcars for a long time it was done extraordinarily cheaply in capital expenditure.

[@eddsnake]

I love Douglas Murray but did he say ‘pass mustard’ rather than pass muster at 49:29?! 😂

[@5lowburner]

The otherwise outstanding Tim Stanley at 22’52” inappropriately suggests that gay rights and transgenderism are or should be part of the same political position. They are not only different, but almost diametrically opposed and, except for Trans activists, the vast majority of the public understand Trans identification as primarily a psychological, not civil rights issue.

[@BoojayDeeth]

6:00 It's nice to see the Child Catcher has successfully re-trained for a new career.

[@irenelancaster3242]

Judaism is thoroughly thriving and I have converts lining up in Shul to improve their English.

[@dandantheideasman]

Really cool, though would be better if the used the Cosworth Catalyst than the diesel engine I guess 😊

[@monsieurgrigny]

As I have said before, this is the best political show of the week. James Heale is very good but he gabbles on and is difficult and tiring to listen to. I always have to rewind. And I'm not entirely an old git. Take a leaf out of Freddy's book who makes a point of holding his horses and has got it just right. Slow up, man!

[@harrying882]

Katie the best she’s adorable 🥰

[@prepping_essentials]

Why do all of the people trotted out and being presented as being "experts" keep blaming the Ukraine war as being the main cause of inflation? The root cause is government money printing and mismanagement and has nothing to do (except perhaps for government imposed sanctions) with current rates of inflation.

[@richarddelanet]

So good politics, is not necessarily good policy. Who knew... Our Collective business at heart.

[@bengray4149]

I know Doug Murray is a controversialist by profession, and likes to test boundaries, but to boldly assert that Idris Elba is a good actor is surely taking things to a new level. It is not so much a case of Idris Elba being a good actor, but more a case of Douglas Murray knowing f all about the acting profession.

[@skymanifest8339]

Good to see Freddy has bought some Head & Shoulders. The dandruff was distracting me from his brilliant insights.

[@rocketpig1914]

Looks like he slept in his suit though

[@daisyhobbs7500]

Is no one listening to the monotonous droning by the political media class who like Katy seem to talk as if she is lowering herself to talk to us. Her tone is really condescending. I'm bored with these 'commentators'. I too will fast forward to Douglas Murray. He has a grounded perception & insight....a rare quality in the chattering classes these days.

[@colinfarren8326]

HS2 is decades behind schedule, in looking at European and Far east countries such as Japan (Bullet trains) there are no new trains that can run on it, Its billions of pounds above the estimate given, people have been bought off and in some cases sued for not giving up their property because "its in the way" and now they figure on scrapping one of the main routes that were proposed. The whole scheme was an utter farce from start but yet to finish in about another ten years (estimated). In terms of UK infrastructure we are decades behind any other country and I thought when it was 1st proposed this is going to be an absolute waste of tax payer money. Which seems to be proven.

[@sifridbassoon]

Hey! I love Doritos! But I'm retired. 😁

[@bigbarry8343]

and what would Murray advise to young people on typical professional London salary of 28K? share bunkbed to accomodate in office work?

[@TheOrphicLyre]

'Populist neoliberalism' is an oxymoron, populism has always been aligned with more economically collectivist ideas. Economic liberalism is the natural bedfellow of moderate social liberalism (but not of course the illiberal neosegregationist leftist stuff we for some idiotic reason insist on calling 'liberal').

[@cinhh]

That the UK has a conservative party, is news to me.

[@benphilips7235]

@32 mins - unless you promote private enterprise and lower taxes in order to grow the economy you won't ever have the resources to pay for schools and hospitals. The one is necessary to fund the other.

[@seanpidduck]

Anybody else tune into Centrist TV just to get an idea what the hacks in the Westminster bubble are thinking currently? Remember former editor James Forsyth is Rishis best mate and current Chief of Staff so what the Spectator tell us is pretty much straight from the unelected horses mouth

[@paulpenfold2352]

I watch it as research for a collection of fan fiction I'm currently working on.

[@FizuliAbilov]

Инвестиции + торговля это более американская линия, построение+торговля это более британское

[@theinngu5560]

It’s fine to not work and put your feet up as long as you are not expecting anyone else to pay for it.

[@FizuliAbilov]

Только церковь не ищет легких решений в их глубокую концептуальность я склонен верить

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

It is disappointing to hear The Spectator debate on Refugees/Economic Migrants crossing our border illegally. All views are about where the deckchairs should go on the Titanic. Not one person was arguing that in helping Refugees, it is not necessary for any of them to come & live in the UK. We can help far more of them by only helping people in Overseas Refugee Camps. If people want to come & live in the UK, they should apply to Immigrate to the UK. It has never been easier to immigrate to the UK. As we see in Pro Hamas demonstrations around the Wester World, it is possible for someone to need help, while being entirely undesirable.

[@FindAReason-mi7go]

Conservatism? Having an Indian guru as the national leader was the great counter-culture hippy dream.

[@williamvorkosigan5151]

Disney Lemmings had a greater survival instinct then C of E Bishops who welcome in Islam. That went so well in Buddhist Afghanistan. Christian: Turkey, Egypt & Palestine. Zoroastrian Iran.

[@harml3ss28]

I'm off to feed some other addiction

[@jamessheedy8933]

Tim is bang on.

[@TheOrphicLyre]

When he's not in a muddle over economics, maybe.

[@stevehowell231]

Tim Stanley is wrong.

[@FizuliAbilov]

У меня такое было пока один пенсионного возраста индюк из Вашей страны не сломал мне карьеру своим резким и далеким от реального разбирательства решении.

[@peterbettell1361]

I Thought that geezer looked like Parker out of thunderbirds I was hoping he was going to say yes ma lady to Katie 😂and I prefer Freddie to that other boy that sounds like he’s got a spoon up his jacksy obviously Douglas Murray is top drawer as usual

[@jimbomac555]

Anthony Seldon starts his sentences with “so”…

[@hooligan9794]

Offices are soul-suckling misery. I wonder how much time Douglas has spent in a cubicle doing mind-numbing empty work.

[@soviet9366]

20 min in: Brexit was 'not the tories fault'? For good or ill, Brexit is a tory project and it was 2 tory governments that negotiated our terms of leaving

[@daisyhobbs7500]

'Negotiated'? Huh. Took the knee and took their orders from the EU, you mean. Our Brexit was hijacked; as will be the next GE. Voting merely fools the ppl into believing they have a say.

[@anglosaxonbreed]

Boris could have won the next GE. Its good by tories

[@niknikmoore]

Don't forget to LIKE the video

[@hcsanli]

Douglas Murray, the economic migrant complaining about other migrants is typical of conservatives. Hardcore conservatives have to take the lead. They are not Braver an, Patel or Badenoch!

[@tobias1075]

I don't agree with the Cameron clegg alliance. It was the start of the end as Cameron thought he could take the youth vote away from the libs. All it did was make the Conservatives left of centre and is why the party is dead. The reason why the right leaning government failed post brexit was cause of Parliament, house of Lords, and the civil service being politically left. Hard to govern when all the apparatuses of government will fight against the government.

[@uk145]

Braverman as a leadership contender??? Please god no.

[@FizuliAbilov]

Брексит это шаг показывающий дальновидность, типа мы не с ними, мы знаем большую динамику.

[@arthurmetaxas4653]

Douglas does embellish his …. Facts

[@DamienWalter]

Freddie has the voice of a 178 year old man but looks like a middle aged baby.

[@AdnamsBrewery]

Why does Sir Anthony Seldon think it appropriate to start answering a question with “So”? It is a very irritating trend and grammatically unnecessary. It is more often than not followed by bland waffle as he went on to prove.

[@jaynespearin71]

Don't ya love them!?

[@richarddelanet]

Is that a Piraeus jug, in the background? (21mins). And casual American disingenuousness! Did anyone notice? Not a good idea the last I heard. Perhaps the game has changed over the years.

[@9hawklord]

Theres no need for a new word ie workaholism when greed covers it exactly. Sparauncing like that is see through since the internet.

[@FizuliAbilov]

Программа для правительства, где максимально подробно была бы ясна судьба каждых политически активных слоев и игроков это есть классическое решение

[@bobberdown7647]

Douglas Murray hasn't labored a day in his life.

[@mouseketeery]

He never claimed to do manual labour, which I presume you mean, but he's been writing books and articles constantly since the age of about 17. As he's a thorough and active (not just looking things up on the internet) researcher of his material, he's certainly been working.

[@FizuliAbilov]

Програмные речи и предпочтения больше не говорят ни о том, как это будет исполняться, ни к чему это приведет

[@_permanence]

Murray looks like he’s also addicted to facial fillers

[@specialistcarmarketing]

Radical,? Change?all his policies as admiral as they are too long term, nearly all deliverable in the next decade or have I missed something?

[@steebee1841]

whats going on with them ears?

[@zoot4358]

Tim Stanley seems like a bit of a gimp. Who agrees?

[@rocketpig1914]

He doesn't seem to talk much sense but how about we attack his ideas rather than the man?

[@zoot4358]

@@rocketpig1914 wait a second. It sounds like you might be a gimp too!! Who agrees?

[@brigittapayne6203]

The Tories have done better than Labour if they had been in power for 13 years. HS2 needs to be scrubbed , smoking for young people is the right thing to do , I would have never started to smoke as a Teenager if it had been illegal.

[@bobkat8765]

Pick better allies. “Since the fascist route to power has always passed through cooperation with conservative elites, at least in the cases so far known, the strength of a fascist movement in itself is only one of the determining variables in the achievement (or not) of power, though it is surely a vital one. Fascists did have numbers and muscle to offer to conservatives caught in crisis in Italy and Germany, as we have seen. Equally important, however, was the conservative elites’ willingness to work with fascism; a reciprocal flexibility on the fascist leaders’ part; and the urgency of the crisis “that induced them to cooperate with each other.” Excerpt From The Anatomy of Fascism Robert O. Paxton “Fascists often cursed faceless cities and materialist secularism, and exalted an agrarian utopia free by from the rootlessness, conflict, and immorality of urban life. Yet fascist leaders adored their fast cars and planes, and spread their message “by dazzlingly up-to-date techniques of propaganda and stagecraft. Once in power, they forced the industrial pace in order to rearm. Thus it becomes difficult to posit the essence of fascism solely in either antimodernist reaction or in modernizing dictatorship.” The Anatomy of Fascism Robert O. Paxton “Fascism’s ideological underpinnings became central again in the “final stages”, as the accompaniment and guide of wartime radicalization. As the fascist hard core acquired independence from their conservative allies at the battlefront or in occupied enemy territory, their racial hatreds and their contempt for liberal or humanist values reasserted themselves in the killing fields of Libya, Ethiopia, Poland, and the Soviet Union.” The Anatomy of Fascism Robert O. Paxton “The strategy of the Germans and their French police cohort was stealthy, predictable, and almost successful. Until mid-1942, when anti-Jewish operations became more violent and the rumors of a Nazi Final Solution had finally reached Paris, most well meaning and generous Parisians were aware in general of the laws restricting the lives of their Jewish co-habitants, but had convinced themselves that the government was only trying to control immigration and terrorism.” Ronald C. Rosbottom, When Paris Went Dark: The City of Light Under German Occupation, 1940-1944 “We want to burn out all the recent immoral developments in literature, in the theater, and in the press - in short, we want to burn out the poison of immorality which has entered into our whole life and culture as a result of liberal excess during the past ... (few) years.” - Adolf Hitler, quoted in: The Speeches of Adolf Hitler, 1922-1939, Vol. 1 (London, Oxford University Press, 1942), pg. 871-872 “A state that once again rules in God's name can count not only on our applause but also on enthusiastic and active cooperation from the church. With joy and thanks we see how this new state rejects blasphemy, attacks immorality, promotes discipline and order with a firm hand, demands awe before God, works to keep marriage sacred and our youth spiritually instructed, brings honor back to fathers of families, ensures that love of people and fatherland is no longer mocked, but burns in a thousand hearts. ...We can only plead with our fellow worshipers to do as they can to help these new productive forces in our land reach a complete and unimpeded victory. - Easter Sunday Blessing from Protestant Pastors in Bavaria, April 16, 1933 “It is the press, above all, which wages a positively fanatical and slanderous struggle, tearing down everything which can be regarded as a support of national independence, cultural elevation, and the economic independence of the nation.” Adolf Hitler “The organization of our press has truly been a success. Our law concerning the press is such that divergence of opinion between members of the government are no longer an occasion for public exhibitions, which are not the newspapers’ business. We’ve eliminated that conception of political freedom which holds that everybody has the right to say whatever comes into his head.” Adolph Hitler “They [Fascists] enforced with the utmost violence and thoroughness their threats against socialism. Street fights over turf with young communists were among their most powerful propaganda images. Once in power, fascist regimes banned strikes, dissolved independent labor unions, lowered wage earners’ purchasing power, and showered money on armaments industries, to the immense satisfaction of employers.” Excerpt From The Anatomy of Fascism Robert O. Paxton My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. ...Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed his blood upon the Cross. ... -- Adolf Hitler, speech on April 12, 1922 "Today, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people." --Adolf Hitler, in a speech on 12 April 1922

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