Why Dumbledore WANTED Harry to Reach Voldemort in the Philosopher's Stone - Harry Potter Theory

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@HarryPotterTheory
@HarryPotterTheory 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching guys! What do YOU think of this Dumbledore theory? Let me know in the comment section below!
@Shadow-sq2yj
@Shadow-sq2yj 3 жыл бұрын
The quote at the end was by Dumbledore when he caught Harry at the Mirror of Erised.
@ChetNotJet
@ChetNotJet 3 жыл бұрын
Hello
@denzelklarenaar5883
@denzelklarenaar5883 3 жыл бұрын
hello, I have an video idea: could you please make a video with the topic: what if Voldemort got the sorcerres stone in Harry Potter part 1? Thx!
@yitziyyb
@yitziyyb 3 жыл бұрын
Super Carlin bros have a whole theory series on this
@faeces_puffs3524
@faeces_puffs3524 3 жыл бұрын
@@denzelklarenaar5883 philosopher's stone.
@barackobama5867
@barackobama5867 3 жыл бұрын
Probably just to test him, because he knew Harry was safe, and he wanted to test his bravery and loyalty.
@PascalLuchs
@PascalLuchs 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah it‘s not like the dog, the devil‘s snare or the fire could have killed him😂
@barackobama5867
@barackobama5867 3 жыл бұрын
@@PascalLuchs there is a great video from SuperCarlinBrothers regarding Dumbledores plan for Harry every year so u should watch it, they explainn it better :)
@tinnemaibohm7635
@tinnemaibohm7635 3 жыл бұрын
@Ayden Park No the Colors are different
@ExploringAndMe
@ExploringAndMe 3 жыл бұрын
But the teacher could have used avada kadavra
@TheSmizzy
@TheSmizzy 3 жыл бұрын
I think dumbledor didn’t care about Harry just his purpose he used him as a tool like he was a target an objective that’s how everyone treated him a weapon
@danielrainford2417
@danielrainford2417 3 жыл бұрын
Just imagine voldy being like “cmon quirell you got this it’s chess “ and “move the pawn there” and they have an argument on where to move it , would of been funny I think 😂
@willdenman999
@willdenman999 2 жыл бұрын
You should watch “A Very Potter Musical” on KZbin, a parody where a similar comic arrangement exists between Voldemort and Quirrell 😂
@robertsobotka3725
@robertsobotka3725 2 жыл бұрын
Never thought about that, it's hilarious hahaha
@kcquitano1525
@kcquitano1525 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if Voldemort didnt know how to play chess, cuz he had better things to do, and he couldnt understand why quirrel wasnt just killing anything that stood in his way
@angellight4183
@angellight4183 Жыл бұрын
Yeah but I see Quirrell more intelligent in those games than Voldemort; Quirrell was very cultivated person
@rustydaboyrobot
@rustydaboyrobot 3 жыл бұрын
This was a test for Harry, with it including a wide range of factors. 1. Did Harry choose his friends wisely? Does he show care for and need of those friends? Are the friends Harry chose a strong benefit/support to him in dealing with extreme circumstances? 2. Test Harry (and his friends) for wisdom, thinking under duress, logic, when to lean on another's strengths rather than your own, ability/cooperation, problem solving, and lastly, test Harry's protection from his mother. 3. Test the prophecy. There was risk, of course. But Dumbledore was there quickly when Harry needed rescuing. And there was Snape AND Dumbledore looking out for Harry specifically the whole school year. Did it get a bit TOO risky at the conclusion? Yes. I believe so. But Dumbledore was actively looking to mitigate any risks, so not a "bad" guy move, but a necessity.
@rustydaboyrobot
@rustydaboyrobot 3 жыл бұрын
@G E T R E K T 905 I would disagree. Dumbledore kept secrets, true. But he always felt Harry had a chance to beat Voldemort. And he worked beyond the grave to make that chance as good as possible.
@jkrause365
@jkrause365 3 жыл бұрын
I certainly do think that Dumbledore was supremely manipulative. This, I think, is finally revealed in The Deathly Hallows in one of the final chapters where Harry views Snape's memories in the penseive. The truth of the collusion between Snape and Dumbledore finally came out.
@Art-st1yi
@Art-st1yi 3 жыл бұрын
He doesn’t trust anyone with the knowledge of Snape’s true allegiance. This puts Snape in danger. He orders Snape to kill him, and says that he has too, using his love for Lily against him. He manipulates Snape constantly, and then leaves him in an awkward position where his friends think that he’s evil. Dumbledore could have at least told McGonagal, as McGonagal could have learnt occlumency. Dumbledore could have even left a letter, instructing her to not open it till after Voldemort was defeated. He didn’t have to leave Snape in such an awful position
@emankcin1701
@emankcin1701 2 жыл бұрын
@@Art-st1yi He didn't want to risk it, and there was always the chance that Snape's loyalty was leaked somehow. He wanted bulletproof protection. Only Snape and Dumbledore himself were the only two people in the whole World being able to conceal their thoughts from Voldemort. Maybe he could have written a letter that would open after Riddle died, surely that wasn't beyond his abilities, but he wanted to be absolutely sure.
@petercarolan9416
@petercarolan9416 2 жыл бұрын
yeah I only know it from the movie but the memory of snape and dumbledore telling snape harry had to die. though he made up for it when harry was in the state of limbo after voldemorts avada kedavra
@dr.chaimaabaaloudj2608
@dr.chaimaabaaloudj2608 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely ridiculous his interest is not to protect Harry only but the entire world from voldmort if demboldore was lead by his feelings no way in hell would they had won even Harry himself went to die when he thought it could potentially could save the world that is what argue leader is he puts the interest of the greater good above anybody
@joshsims9642
@joshsims9642 Жыл бұрын
​@@Art-st1yiwrong snape could have said no
@rixtgeertsma2119
@rixtgeertsma2119 3 жыл бұрын
I have a nice theory: if you would put a part of your soul in a Phoenix to use it as a horcrux, will your soul will be reborn with the Phoenix after it died?
@hippopottermus9856
@hippopottermus9856 3 жыл бұрын
Wow good theory
@aes1373
@aes1373 3 жыл бұрын
Nah I think the horcrux would still be destroyed. Fawx was hit by the killing curse so if there was a piece of soul it would be destroyed. Similar to how when Harry was hit by avada, the horcrux in him died, even though Harry came back. A phenox does initially die and get destroyed before being reborn. So the souls inside would perish initially, but won't regenerate as the body does.
@albertotorres7746
@albertotorres7746 3 жыл бұрын
@@aes1373 movieflame or this channel already debunked the idea that voldemort killed the horcrux inside harry in the forbidden forest. you should check it out.
@aes1373
@aes1373 3 жыл бұрын
@@albertotorres7746 yeah I've seen it Harry survived BCS his mother's protection lived inside Voldemort. But it still killed the horcrux inside him.
@yomommasofatthanoshadtosna3479
@yomommasofatthanoshadtosna3479 3 жыл бұрын
*I don't need sleep, I need answers*
@JenneeB927
@JenneeB927 3 жыл бұрын
I think Dumbledore's goal was to prove that Voldemort was returning. If he made it easy for Harry to confront Voldemort to A) see how Harry handled this 1st important battle and B) he thought people would believe Harry that Voldemort was returning
@connoradams2351
@connoradams2351 3 жыл бұрын
Video idea: why didn’t Harry see Dumbeldore when Harry touched the resurrection stone?
@AmateurHEROduelist
@AmateurHEROduelist 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe he chose to stay in limbo until the dark lord was defeated and to guide Harry back to the world of the living
@zokora3656
@zokora3656 2 жыл бұрын
As the other one said. He was in limbo for the time beeing most likely + it just wasn't his place to be.
@johnslade9751
@johnslade9751 3 жыл бұрын
For all of Dumbledores achievements and for all of his intelligence, the biggest thing he had against him was his fear. I will say this, Harry needed to confront him, had Dumbledore kept him the dark entirely and made him never to confront Voldemort Harry would have failed in the end. Harry needed to have that courage and strength, Dumbledore didn't have a lot of time to get Harry truly prepared for what he was facing for each year of Harry's schooling except the Third Voldemort was preparing to get strong again and he never truly knew when the time would come but each confrontation made Harry stronger and braver and more prepared. Yes Dumbledore never truly had Harry safety in mind his priority was stopping Voldemort but Dumbledore always gave Harry what he needed to face his Destiny when the time came.
@yash1756
@yash1756 3 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore did love Harry, like Snape, but he loved the Wizarding World more and was ready to sacrifice himself and Harry and anyone else he had to save the that world, which was the difference between him and Snape.
@johnslade9751
@johnslade9751 3 жыл бұрын
@@yash1756 Dumbledores love is a strange thing, he was like snape said raising a pig for slaughter. I'm not 100% convinced that Dumbledore truly loved Harry, was it love or just caring for him?
@SOLO.SHAD0W-HAWK
@SOLO.SHAD0W-HAWK 3 жыл бұрын
Yup to prepare Harry for his destiny that is until Voldemort took Harry's blood in the graveyard dumbledore saw a chance for his survival and took it
@grantwalter2243
@grantwalter2243 3 жыл бұрын
@@johnslade9751 remember he’s really old and has seen a lot of people he knows die. In his age and wisdom he probably never saw Harry’s death as a super bad thing. He definitely cares for Harry though, he tells him how proud he is of him in book 5 or 6. He also talks about how people with age forget what it’s like to be young (I.e. forget that you don’t wanna fuckin die lol). But he knew that if Harry were to die he’d have to do it willingly. My big question is did Dumbledore ever duel Voldemort before OOTP? And how come Dumbledore never killed him during the first wizarding war? You’d think it be easy for him alone to just capture and interrogate a death eater and then move up the chain of command rather then found an “order” (13 people against millions isn’t much of a war).
@elenastanica4621
@elenastanica4621 3 жыл бұрын
@@grantwalter2243 Dumbledore did not duel him because he knew it was pointless, Voldemort would have returned by using Nagini as a Horcrux. Dumbledore rejected Voldemort's request to teach DADA at Hogwarts because he knew that Voldemort wanted to use the students from pure blood families to steal magical items that would become horcruxes in the end. Voldemort got angry and upset, but avoided Dumbledore. Voldemort stole expensive artefacts anyway and Dumbledore knew what he was planning to make more horcruxes, at that time he could not get to him because he had no proof that Voldemort was evil and the ministry of magic did not support Dumbledore anyway. The last time a dark wizard showed up, Dumbledore was suspected to work with him, and he was prohibited from teaching DADA. Dumbledore knew that if he sorted out the problem in time he would have been jailed (given his dark past, it makes sense). He preferred to wait for Voldemort to make the 1st step and get dangerous enough, so he would not be jailed for stopping him. Voldemort worked for Burke and Borgins when he graduated from Hogwarts and this is how he got so many valuable items. Pure bloods were fascinated with dark magic and did everything to collect more dark items. Dumbledore interrogated Snape when he graduated from Hogwarts, he knew that plain interrogation would not work with Voldemort, but made the Order of Phoenix while Voldemort was gaining power and a crime file. Dumbledore needed to wait for Voldemort to get a crime file in order to be allowed to stop him legally and under safe conditions. BTW he wanted to punish him, not to kill him, to some people being jailed is worse than death. Dumbledore is not a murderer. He jailed his ex-best friend to save the Wizarding world. Grindelwald preferred death instead of his imprisonment, as a result, he decided to make Voldemort angry with him, so he would get killed.
@DarkIFaith
@DarkIFaith 3 жыл бұрын
I take this one step forward and theorize that Dumbledore leaked the location of the stone to Voldemort himself, to lure him out of hiding just in time for HarRys first year. Otherwise it’s such a coincidence. It’s established in CoS that Dumbledore has sources keeping tabs on Voldemort’s location in Albania.
@minniemcgonagall139
@minniemcgonagall139 3 жыл бұрын
Don’t think Dumbledore did. Dumbledore knew Voldemort would return at some point but he possibly didn’t know where Voldemort would be. And why go to a dark wizard and say ‘do you to return again?’ cause that would cause damage to the Wizarding and Muggle world if Voldemort managed to succeed in getting the Stone
@imqqmi
@imqqmi 3 жыл бұрын
I get the impression that it had 2 main goals: preparing Harry & co for the challenges ahead and forcing Voldemort to gain his own body. Voldemort discovered the problem of Harry's protection. Dd knew this of course, but it was more of an impedement to killing big V, without a body there's nothing to kill. And Harry had to die to kill the horcrux in him. Voldemort fixed the protection, gained a body and killed the horcrux in Harry. Kill other horcruxes and V is done. The real question is: did Harry meet Ron and Hermione by coincident or was DD already involved? Harry Potter books should've been called 'How Dumbledore manipulated and exploited the heck out of Harry Potter'.
@carolinpurayidom4570
@carolinpurayidom4570 2 жыл бұрын
Ron and Hermione were a coincidence.
@kumarishreya2285
@kumarishreya2285 3 жыл бұрын
harry told in philosophers stone ( in the books idk about the movies ) to ron and Hermione in the hospital wing about Dumbledore :" it's almost like he thought I had the right to face voldemort "
@samaccardi
@samaccardi 3 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Dumbledore INTENDED for the obstacles to be easy, to throw Voldemort off his guard. He gets to the mirror in a breeze, only to realize he has absolutely no way of ever getting it out of the mirror. Dumbledore knew why, but Voldemort might never figure out how to get it, because he always wanted to use it. And by the time he went and grabbed a Death Eater for help, Dumbledore would probably have showed up and whooped him.
@sonofposeidon9450
@sonofposeidon9450 3 жыл бұрын
The more I watch this channel, the more I'm starting to believe that everything Snape told Dumbledore in "The Prince's Tale" about Dumbledore raising Harry to die is true. Dumbledore not only asked Harry to die at the end of Deathly Hallows, but he also put Harry in danger on purpose multiple times during the series.
@joshsims9642
@joshsims9642 Жыл бұрын
No he didn't harry chose to of his own free will
@Doctor_Odin
@Doctor_Odin 3 жыл бұрын
The simplest traps are usually the best ones especially when dealing with the pompous and arrogant. He could’ve wanted to see the level of influence Voldemort had over Harry and whether or not it could be used both ways. Essentially in the words of Internet Dumbledore was trolling Voldemort. While more than likely doing an experiment with those two as the subjects testing potency of the influence and its current.
@MonkeyBarGaming
@MonkeyBarGaming 3 жыл бұрын
These videos are just amazing, you get so much info and it basically creates another story to learn which is so great in my opinion!
@atripathi7063
@atripathi7063 2 жыл бұрын
Even Harry and Ron figured out this theory by themselves. There is one more point in favour of this theory Why was the mirror of erised kept in some place other than the chamber And why was the invisibility cloak given to Harry again after he lost it Plus , Dumbledore knew that Harry had her mother's protection so there was a chance he could again defeat the dark Lord, being inside Hogwarts, voldermort couldn't gather an army so it would be 1 on 1 for Harry and voldy , that is why I appreciate if this was really Dumbledore's intention What was Edit . When ron and hermione were going to the owlery , they met Dumbledore and he said, Harry has gone after him hasn't he? He already knew....
@jameswest981
@jameswest981 3 жыл бұрын
I absolutely agree with your premise, I just completed this book again for the 13th time, reading the text it sounds like Dumbledore killed quarrell when he was attacking Harry.. that would indicate that he was there. Dumbledore knew everything that went on that night
@yash1756
@yash1756 3 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore has been actually wrongly judged in my opinion. I know he was somewhat ambitious and hungry for power(there are some proofs for it within the books), but at the end of day his intentions were NEVER BAD. He wanted good of the Wizarding World, without even caring for his own life. And he knew from the starting that he might've had to sacrifice Harry for it, and he prepared Harry for it all the years he could. He was not selfish or evil by doing this to Harry. He was just doing this for a better good. Just think about it, what would've been the point of Harry existence, if Dumbledore managed to save Harry but the Wizarding World was lost? Would Harry himself prefer this or giving his life to save the Wizarding World? Harry and Dumbledore were quite similar characters with the possible exception of Dumbledore being a bit power hungry. Dumbledore did not want Harry to despair or live his life knowing that he will die while trying to save the World, and therefore decided against to mention to Harry his true plans.
@alizargani3029
@alizargani3029 3 жыл бұрын
For the Greater Good perhaps?
@barackobama5867
@barackobama5867 3 жыл бұрын
Voldemort hated his life so he made himself immortal. Thats kind of contradictive....
@metrostatistics9807
@metrostatistics9807 3 жыл бұрын
Nah it's like Ban's philosophy, if you live for long enough something good is bond to happen eventually
@christophg.6339
@christophg.6339 3 жыл бұрын
@@metrostatistics9807 I‘ll write This down. Might come in handy some day...
@SquirrelASMR
@SquirrelASMR 3 жыл бұрын
He did nearly change the world forever though
@barackobama5867
@barackobama5867 3 жыл бұрын
@@SquirrelASMR Yes i know and i might have been mistaken... He probably hated his life until Hogwarts
@AVDONE
@AVDONE 3 жыл бұрын
Well, if you think about it, maybe Jk thought of Voldemort as a total wounded soul, and that type of people subconsciously seeks pain and suffer, because they can't escape from that feeling. Harry/Dumbledore actually liberate him from that with his death.
@arthurg5966
@arthurg5966 3 жыл бұрын
I think he wanted to test Harry if he was good hearted or go down the path of Tom and team up with him. Because if he did that there would be no way of stopping Tom.
@marlaiskander
@marlaiskander 3 жыл бұрын
" Strange how nearsighted being invisible can make you " - Albus Dumbledore , Philosopher Stone PS: I agree, he wanted to test Harry and to make sure he was truly [ The boy who lived - The chosen one ] PS : I love your videos so much
@nahor88
@nahor88 3 жыл бұрын
He's late to the party on this one though.... Super Carlin Bros. already made a vid on this topic. I quit watching Harry Potter Folklore though cuz HPT usually beats him.
@marlaiskander
@marlaiskander 3 жыл бұрын
@@nahor88 I agree I used to watch Harry Potter Folklore and stopped . HPT is WAYYY better.
@arc4751
@arc4751 3 жыл бұрын
No dislikes and 151 likes that shows that your content is really good
@eugeneruby433
@eugeneruby433 3 жыл бұрын
Here's an idea for a video topic, because I don't think I've ever seen it explicitly stated in any official Harry Potter material: What exactly does a Horcrux do to your body once you've made it? I don't mean the gradual degradation of your appearance, like how Voldemort slowly became more snake-like as his soul became more and more mangled. I mean, how does the horcrux function to serve its purpose? Obviously it ties your soul to the mortal plain, but how does it work? Do you just effectively stop aging after one is made, and stay the same age forever? Or would your body continue to age, but never die? Nothing is ever stated that implies horcruxes also grant youth or stop aging. For that matter, why was original Voldemort's body seemingly destroyed when his Killing Curse rebounded off of baby Harry? There's no mention in the books or movies that his body was found crumpled and lifeless on the floor of the Potters' house, just that his spirit was wrenched from it. If his body was left dead on the bedroom floor, but his spirit still tethered to the mortal plain, why couldn't he just re-inhabit his original body on the spot?
@rpowell20139
@rpowell20139 3 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore was a warrior wizard and battled for the defeat of Voldemort. This was the unifying principle for all the books.
@celtictarotreadings333
@celtictarotreadings333 3 жыл бұрын
He wanted to test him, because he knew hed be the one to fight voldermort. He kind of confirmed this in snapes memories when he says something about keeping him alive to try his strengths etc etc
@isaacdestura7495
@isaacdestura7495 3 жыл бұрын
This is much cooler than just answering everything with interviews, imo
@pratt_and_whitney_f119
@pratt_and_whitney_f119 3 жыл бұрын
Hey harry potter theory please don't think I am spamming the comments section because I have been commenting about this topic for nearly every video now. As you replied to one of my comments you would make the video on the "most intelligent harry potter characters" in 1-2 weeks, 2 weeks have already passed so when will you give the video on my requested topic? And also please don't think I don't like your channel, I absolutely love your channel to me your channel is the best harry potter channel and I am subscribed to your channel for a long time too. That's why people like me and marvelous pokefan think you are the only one who can make a video on such a complex topic as this. And my favorite harry potter character is Snape too.
@HarryPotterTheory
@HarryPotterTheory 3 жыл бұрын
I haven't forgotten about it, I just want to do a proper job of it and it's quite an involved topic. I am planning on making it soon, I will try to get it out ASAP!
@pratt_and_whitney_f119
@pratt_and_whitney_f119 3 жыл бұрын
@@HarryPotterTheory thank you very much
@raghavparanjpe9556
@raghavparanjpe9556 3 жыл бұрын
the last quote was by dumbledore to harry while harry was watching himself in the mirror of erised the third time.
@alanaalbarado2357
@alanaalbarado2357 3 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it takes other people (good and bad) to influence our course of life to get us on the correct path because it’s our light that is meant to ultimately overcome the darkness in our small corner of the world that holds onto the vast purpose of life❤️
@danielpriest1142
@danielpriest1142 3 жыл бұрын
I reckon Dumbledore must've known something was killing the unicorns in the Forbidden Forest. So when it just so happens that Harry and trio get detention, Dumbledore sent them into the forest with Hagrid to perhaps confirm his suspicions that the unicorn killer was Voldemort. This would also give Harry a motive to chase after Voldemort, to stop him getting the philosophers stone. Otherwise it seems mad to send first year students into the Forbidden Forest, regardless of what they did wrong.
@Shadow-sq2yj
@Shadow-sq2yj 3 жыл бұрын
"Dumbledore took the job of protecting it seriously" that is one of the biggest jokes I have ever heard.
@jaypatankar4391
@jaypatankar4391 3 жыл бұрын
That only . 3 , 11 year olds got past it
@LandJYT
@LandJYT 3 жыл бұрын
The films made it look so easy.
@asmiaryal3942
@asmiaryal3942 3 жыл бұрын
er, i guess the mirror of erised was enough
@MrDanfra
@MrDanfra 3 жыл бұрын
The obstacles weren't designed to stop intruders. But to slow them down. And the stone would only show hemself true the mirror of erised to somebody with good intentions.
@grantwalter2243
@grantwalter2243 3 жыл бұрын
Lol ikr. Who puts a frickin giant chess board and a riddle to guard the stone.
@catlinappleyard2251
@catlinappleyard2251 3 жыл бұрын
I thought at first dumbledore would want Harry to face Voldemort while the was still at his weakest however now I’m sure that he would have know that defeating Voldemort at this stage would just leave him to latch onto someone else
@yitziyyb
@yitziyyb 3 жыл бұрын
Triwizard tournament challenges were harder
@snowysobsessed
@snowysobsessed 3 жыл бұрын
I have a video suggestion : What will voldemort see in his boggart? I am very curioud about this so It will be better if you explain this☺
@Timberwolf69
@Timberwolf69 3 жыл бұрын
I think he did that one already. Not 100% sure, though.
@snowysobsessed
@snowysobsessed 3 жыл бұрын
@@Timberwolf69 No he didn't. I have searched it on youtube and none came from him
@hippopottermus9856
@hippopottermus9856 3 жыл бұрын
He would see Harry
@UziMan-Science-Math
@UziMan-Science-Math 3 жыл бұрын
The reason Voldemort solved the Potions Riddle cuz his name is Tom Marvolo RIDDLE
@EBGamez1
@EBGamez1 3 жыл бұрын
Bruh🤣🤣🤣
@UziMan-Science-Math
@UziMan-Science-Math 3 жыл бұрын
@@EBGamez1 Ikr
@FrantzVissarionovitch
@FrantzVissarionovitch 3 жыл бұрын
hahahahaha oh man
@hippopottermus9856
@hippopottermus9856 3 жыл бұрын
Woah what a joke 🤣🤣
@Wi-Fi-El
@Wi-Fi-El 3 жыл бұрын
I think this also explains Hagrid's shortsightedness in telling the trio how to make Fluffy the Cerberus sleep. Dumbledore probably wanted Hagrid to tell them so they could get through there when the time was right. All the other trials make decent sense considering the aptitude of the three protagonists, but research probably wouldn't have given them an acceptable answer to the Cerberus problem
@surferdude4487
@surferdude4487 3 жыл бұрын
It was Hagrid that gave Harry the flute he used to charm Fluffy.
@MDILeon
@MDILeon 3 жыл бұрын
YES!!! Definitely true! I re-watched philosopher stone during Christmas and just thought of the exact same theory! it gave me goosebumps at the time! it only makes sense that all the first year was a carefully planned test designed by Dumbledore... No doubt! he showed harry the mirror during the year, also he invited Quirrel to the castle for this exact reason... to test harry, his friends and how the protection works against voldy! great theory! I amazed how I didn't think of this years before... but it all makes sense... those defenses for the stone are not ever for Voldemort if they are designed that a first-year student can get trough... that would be ridiculous...this is one of the best theories ever, it sheds much light on the dumbledore character showing his calculative and emotionless behavior and perfectly ties with what Severus says to him in the last book. It was his plan all along... man Dumbledore can be cruel yet it had to be done for the wellbeing of all
@haneeen7579
@haneeen7579 3 жыл бұрын
I LOVE YOUR VIDEOS!
@blackl.dragon
@blackl.dragon Жыл бұрын
Your theory makes so much sense. i was confused as to why the obstacles were so easy, considering that they were placed for Voldemort. But now it makes total sense... ❤️
@noveinrembert9885
@noveinrembert9885 3 жыл бұрын
If there is only enough potion for one person, how did Harry get to drink it after Voldemort made it through? If it just refills itself hermione could’ve just came along too.
@DarkIFaith
@DarkIFaith 3 жыл бұрын
There was only a little left BECAUSE Quirrell had already drunk most of it.
@thor9517
@thor9517 3 жыл бұрын
Fire freezing spell? I doubt there isnt one... Magic can do almost anything, surely stop some flame if it isnt fiendfire.
@StepDubUp
@StepDubUp 3 жыл бұрын
​@@thor9517 I think I listened to a story from 'Harry Potter Theory' where there was this witch who let herself get captured by 'muggles' in the time when witches were burned on the stake and she would charm the fires so it only gave her a tickle while she screamed and pretended to be burned alive I think. And the number was mentioned of how many times she let herself get captured and it's dozens of times if I remember correctly. She of course changed/hid her identity every time. So I guess fires can get enchanted to not hurt you and that might have or might not work on these fires as well.
@craigbrett2992
@craigbrett2992 3 жыл бұрын
If Voldemort had already gone through the potion obstacle, how did harry get through if there was only enough for 1?
@lamablushes6427
@lamablushes6427 3 жыл бұрын
The tasks resets after the person that took the task pass or not...
@craigbrett2992
@craigbrett2992 3 жыл бұрын
@@lamablushes6427 oh yeah that makes sense now. I remember that the chess reset
@slytherinprefect
@slytherinprefect 3 жыл бұрын
He knew that if Harry got the stone Voldemort wouldn't stand a chance to possess it. Yet I find it interesting about how Hagrid "sold" fluffy's information in trade for a dragon to a stranger, knowing it was the entrance to the stone's chamber. (?)
@Azaghal1988
@Azaghal1988 3 жыл бұрын
Harris is a really nice guy, but as harsh as it sounds he's also stupid as hell. He gets outwitted by everyone and more than once endangers people over his love for strange creatures. I can't think if a reason why Dumbledore trusted him with sensitive information over the course of several decades.
@Azaghal1988
@Azaghal1988 3 жыл бұрын
*Hagrid... Stupid auto correct.
@juliie007
@juliie007 3 жыл бұрын
To add to Harry Potter theory, I felt as though Dumbledore planned for Harry to reach the philosopher’s stone to possibly get rid of Voldermont. Dumbledore knew that Harry carried the sacrificial enchantment passed on to him by Lily and that Voldermont wouldn’t pass off an opportunity to get rid off Harry using Quirell. Dumbledore hoped that once Quirell lay his hands on Harry the protection magic in him would be awakened destroying Quirell alongside Voldermont who had taken possession of him. Quirell was stopped but Voldermont survived because of his hocruxes though he was severely weakened. I believe this was the moment that Dumbledore also realized that there was more to Voldermont because he shouldn’t have survived Harry’s touch and decided to uncover all his secrets.
@MrPoem-rq7pz
@MrPoem-rq7pz 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve got a good theory! Can polyjuice potion fool the marauders map? Reference to Snape’s office break in in goblet of fire.
@VGPorage
@VGPorage 3 жыл бұрын
Nope the map showed Barty Crouch and not Alastor Madeye
@tammydaveson6161
@tammydaveson6161 3 жыл бұрын
I find that your videos about the Harry Potter book and movie series along with the prequel book and movie series very interesting and intriguing to be honest and I think that some of my family and friends might be interested in seeing them as well. Keep up the good work that you are doing with this content and your very I formative theories about the series and any thing else that you might like to do and share with us on social media sites.
@maryjotansy8149
@maryjotansy8149 3 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore knew Harry was the object of the prophecy as soon as Voldemort decided to kill Harry's parents - he didn't need any further confirmation about Harry's destiny than that. DD also knew that there was only one way that Harry would survive his ultimate confrontation with Voldemort - and that was if Voldemort reincarnated with Harry's blood. DD arranged things as best he could to make sure that happened. It appeared heartless on DD's part, but that was Harry's only path.
@arinjoyy
@arinjoyy 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome bro! Love you videos✌️
@rhueoflandorin
@rhueoflandorin 2 жыл бұрын
in secrets of dumbledore, i would have LOVED to see Dumbledore planning/executing this exact course of events. Dumbledore telling hagrid to take harry along with him to pick up the stone, try and peak harry's interest but not reveal that it was the stone... That hagrid ought to make a flute for harry's christmas present similar to maybe one dumbledore had seen hagrid make in the past "that was a good flute you made, hagrid...you should make another----for Harry! You two have grown quite close this year as I understand it. I think he'd really appreciate it." ... Dumbledore casing invisibility charm on himself to watch harry discover the mirror of erised, before relocating it as the final obstacle for the stone, certain Harry would be able to best Voldemort at this last obstacle....
@liamnachmani4353
@liamnachmani4353 3 жыл бұрын
Amazing video! I thoroughly enjoyed it. I suggest you do more Who Said It at the end of your videos
@robertdeffenbaugh9004
@robertdeffenbaugh9004 Жыл бұрын
I would think Dumbledore knew Harry Potter had his Mother’s protection that he didn’t need to test Harry.
@Shadow-sq2yj
@Shadow-sq2yj 3 жыл бұрын
Quote at the end was by Dumbledore when he(Dumbledore) caught Harry at the Mirror of Erised.
@Baker7of10
@Baker7of10 3 жыл бұрын
Super Carlin Brothers' Dumbledore's Master Plan videos bring a version theory to life through the whole series. It's really interesting and I'd love to hear your take on it, Silas. Thanks for the video!
@first_m3m3
@first_m3m3 3 жыл бұрын
This video made me wonder, why Voldemort made Horcruxes rather than creating another philosopher's stone? or making Horcruxes is easier than a second philosopher's stone?
@edopronk1303
@edopronk1303 3 жыл бұрын
Ooh, someone mentioned this, but where... It was something about not being dependent on one thing.
@GanonGhidorah
@GanonGhidorah 3 жыл бұрын
Well you make good points, but honestly your biggest point debunking this is actually the _real_ reason why everything remains in-tact... The Obstacles would be _no challenge_ for Voldemort...Being such a powerful dark wizard, he'd literally breeze through them all... However...it's _not_ Voldemort that going through them all, is it? Like you said, the obstacles would probably be a challenge for an ordinary Witch or Wizard. Voldemort was just a malevolent spirit possessing someone at this point, with hardly any magical power at all - he wasn't "back" yet. He was diminished, not just in body but in strength; the Unicorn Blood was literally used to keep him from fading into nothing, but he hardly had any magic left nor could he use it without a body. So yes, Dumbledore knew that Voldemort had not yet returned; cause if he had, then he'd have little need for the stone. Dumbledore was expecting a mere servant to enter the castle to steal it and probably _not_ the man himself. The obstacles probably would've slowed down the average Death Eater that might still be kicking around. But Quirrel, who was an undercover agent and had studied the previous Teachers all throughout the year while planning these traps, probably had enough prowess or the inside-information to how to get around them...The only one that was tricky for him was Hagrid, which is why he spent most of the year bribing Hagrid to get the scoop on Fluffy.
@joshuahallett6235
@joshuahallett6235 3 жыл бұрын
I think yes he intended Harry to reach The Dark Lord, however, I do believe he was nearby ready to step in if he needed to.
@rossington1680
@rossington1680 3 жыл бұрын
It’s the same way with the wizards cup. Dumbly know that mad eye was a fraud. He let it play out because he needed to have Voldy to come to back his body to finally defeat him for good. When Dumbdore hears voldormor comes back to his body he gives a slight flash of a smile. He needed Harry’s blood to be used to bring back voldy. That way the love protection and horcrux mix with both of them, allowing the final face off to go down like it did.
@jeevanpreetham562
@jeevanpreetham562 Жыл бұрын
i do believe this makes complete sense , a controlled experiment if you will to test harry's character without ever realising his character was being tested
@Dumbluckk01
@Dumbluckk01 3 жыл бұрын
i think these “tests” or each room/ challenge was made for each one of them, hermoine had the potion riddle & the devils snare, harry was the youngest seeker, ron was the best, amazing at chest, it all adds up
@IcangChelios
@IcangChelios 3 жыл бұрын
Off topic dude.. But you need to make a Harry Potter Character Power Tier List. You are so ridiculously good in ranking each character's power. I want to see every HP character ranked from D tier to God (or S tier)
@manwellO7
@manwellO7 3 жыл бұрын
I’m here so soon Harry still has a mom and dad.
@pochinki8035
@pochinki8035 3 жыл бұрын
Loll
@jacenskywalker507
@jacenskywalker507 3 жыл бұрын
The damn old codger *always* had to manipulate everything.
@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning
@JoshuaGanoTyraxLightning Жыл бұрын
Wow... this makes it sound like Dumbledore spent years playing the Wizard equivalent of 5D Chess...
@Animei9
@Animei9 3 жыл бұрын
This is a brilliant theory. Very well thought out. It makes these events make a lot more sense
@Kyzalas_
@Kyzalas_ 3 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore knew the fate of the boy,that he had one day to face voldermort so he had one way or another to make harry mentally stronger
@julianfrey1303
@julianfrey1303 3 жыл бұрын
Where do you get the Music from?
@Superavghuman
@Superavghuman 3 жыл бұрын
Makes sense, like why would the Mirror have been in some random room for Harry to find rather than already inside that dungeon protecting the stone. Dumbledore definitely had to have known. And I think the obstacles were meant to separate him from his friends so they didn’t become unnecessary casualties when Harry and Voldemort met face to face
@mannattyagi7797
@mannattyagi7797 3 жыл бұрын
Please make a video on the ronbledore theory and tell about it
@raghavparanjpe9556
@raghavparanjpe9556 3 жыл бұрын
really liked the video
@atrumluminarium
@atrumluminarium 3 жыл бұрын
Regarding the key room, Voldemort can fly unsupported so the keys flying erratically when touching the broom was also pointless
@jinpachibobochan3532
@jinpachibobochan3532 3 жыл бұрын
Well, it's a bit strange... 1. Hagrid introduced Harry to the wizarding world and became good friends with Harry. Hagrid owned Fluffy, the first obstacle. Hagrid is rather careless and made a lot of hints regarding the Philosopher's Stone, and he gifted Harry a wooden flute - which can be used to make Fluffy (the Cerberus) enter a deep slumber (any music can do that). 2. The second obstacle would have been for Neville - if Harry ended up being friends with him (who is also the second choice in the prophecy). But it ended up being Hermione that solved it, as she knows a lot of stuff, etc. 3. The third obstacle was made for a seeker, and Harry is one. 4. The fourth obstacle is a huge game of chess... and guess who's good at chess? Ron. 5. The fifth was a mountain troll. Harry, Hermione, and Ron had experience with trolls. 6. The sixth test was a potion's riddle that tested logic or whatever. It was most likely suited for Hermione. 7. The Mirror of the Erised. Dumbledore introduced it to Harry in a rather strange fashion. Blah blah blah... Anyway, these tests were Dumbledore's way to mold Harry into a curious/adventurous Hero. There are too many strange coincidences... Like, why would Dumbledore fly to that meeting when he has the Floo System/Phoenix/Portkeys?! Obviously, there is a puppet-master at work.
@JuanMataCFC
@JuanMataCFC 3 жыл бұрын
i have 2 questions about Philosopher's Stone. 1. if Voldemort won the chess game and drank the correct potion to get to the Mirror, how did those obstacles "respawn" themselves when Harry, Ron & Hermione encountered them? 2. wasn't Dumbledore risking Voldemort getting the Stone by trying to get Harry to the Mirror? Voldemort would NEVER manage to get it out of the Mirror by himself, but if Harry was able to get it wouldn't Voldemort have a better chance to just take it from him than the Mirror?
@thomasodell9328
@thomasodell9328 3 жыл бұрын
The theory that I subscribe to about the traps: I agree that most of them were not intended to actually prevent Lord Voldemort from reaching the stone, instead, they were intended to give the appearance of protection while not granting much at all. I disagree, however, that they were intended for Harry specifically. I think that it is much more likely that they were weak on purpose to provide Quirrel with a false sense of safety. The thing I feel most people overlook about the stone's protection is the presence of the Mirror of Erised. Why was the Stone contained within such a powerful magical item? Could Dumbledore, a renowned Transfiguration Master, really not have conjured a more secure place to store the stone? Something, perhaps, that could not simply have been picked up and moved to a secure location by the thief? Surely, he could. So why then didn't he? I think that that can easily be answered if one assumes that there was a unique property of the Mirror that he wished to take advantage of. The known effect of the Mirror is that it shows the viewer their strongest desire. It also seems to inspire obsessive thoughts about it, as seen with Harry's reaction when he first encounters it and has been noted to drive people insane if they stare at it for too long. I believe that the Mirror's original purpose was to serve as a means to safely exorcise people who have been possessed by evil spirits or incorporeal entities. It does this by showing the possessing spirit their heart's desire, just like it does living viewers. However, unlike the living, the Mirror, if this theory is correct, would allow free passage for the dead or incorporeal, at least one way. This is supported by the prevalent supposition in our world that mirrors are doorways for the dead. The theory behind the Mirror is that any possessing spirit would be entranced by the life they see in the Mirror and immediately rush through it, only to find themselves trapped behind its glass for the rest of eternity. I believe that Dumbledore did not think Quirrel was directly possessed by Voldemort but was instead working for him. He probably thought that Quirrel would endeavor to steal the stone for his master, and eventually succeed at defeating the 'obstacles' in his way, given that he was, by all accounts, a skilled wizard. However, it would undoubtedly take him a good portion of the school year, especially as he would have to do it in secret and without arousing suspicion from his colleagues. Dumbledore could also both hinder Quirrel as well as monitor his progress by using Snape to directly interrogate Quirrel about his actions. This would ensure that by the time Quirrel reached the Mirror, not only would his teaching term almost be complete (ensuring that Dumbledore got the most teaching out of him as possible), he would be pressed for time and need to escape the scene as quickly as possible. What is the most logical thing to do if you're stuck in a place you're not supposed to be and the thing you want is locked in a chest you can't immediately open but can lift? Steal the chest to open later of course! Dumbledore expected Quirrel to do this, breakthrough to the Mirror and, failing to break its protection, steal it to present to his Master later. Voldemort would immediately look in the mirror to see if he could operate it, and be immediately entranced by its magics and locked away in his own pocket dimension. The one flaw with this theory is that we see Voldemort looking in the Mirror without ill effect at the end of the book. This doesn't necessarily invalidate the theory, however, as this can be explained as an effect of Voldemort's Horcruxes tying him to this plane of existence. Horcruxes work, after all, not by halting aging or preventing the destruction of the physical body, but by rendering it hard or impossible for the soul of the wizard to leave this plane even after the destruction of its body. As Dumbledore did not have proof that Riddle created Horcruxes until a full year after the Philosophers Stone incident, he could not have been prepared for this eventuality.
@nathz11x47
@nathz11x47 3 жыл бұрын
Top quality video as always!
@wolfknight412
@wolfknight412 3 жыл бұрын
One problem in your line of thought... You are assuming they were trying to keep Voldy away from the stone, when they did not know he was a threat to it. Some of the obstacles may not have been good against Voldy, but the combined knowlage to get through all of them would be rare in any one person. They were protecting it from any power hungry person that may come after it, not specifically Voldy.
@lewisbull891
@lewisbull891 3 жыл бұрын
Video suggestion, Was Voldemort a talented flyer like Harry and James?.
@genostellar
@genostellar 3 жыл бұрын
I doubt that a broom was provided. I think that Quirrel brought that broom with him and the keys just react to anyone making an obvious attempt to grab the key for the door. Even so, the defense is far too simple. The door could have been blasted open, or the keys rendered immobile by a spell. You jump right from obstacle 6 to obstacle 8. You skipped a number there.
@GhostG0981
@GhostG0981 3 жыл бұрын
I would recommend for you to watch the series "Dumbeldore's big plan" by Super Carlin Brothers
@raghavparanjpe9556
@raghavparanjpe9556 3 жыл бұрын
dumbledore was a man of intelligence, but one thing i m surprised is what kind of enchantments were those that gave the possesion of stone to those who didn't seek it for their own purpose. coz this is a part of behavioural aspect how can that be influenced by some enchantment.
@hippopottermus9856
@hippopottermus9856 3 жыл бұрын
Hey I have a theory....... What was the basalik doing during those 50 years? And where was it hiding? Also u inspired me to make my own channel about Harry Potter!
@priyachouhan1817
@priyachouhan1817 3 жыл бұрын
I think when voldemort died their were no heir of slythrine so it is possible that he goes to the hibernation and when ginny opens the chamber of secret he activat and yes he eat rats...
@hippopottermus9856
@hippopottermus9856 3 жыл бұрын
@@priyachouhan1817 yeah he defo ate rats
@goblin2850
@goblin2850 Жыл бұрын
one thing I don't understand about the flying keys obstacle is why you could not use accio to summon the correct key.
@jorgecarbajal8076
@jorgecarbajal8076 6 ай бұрын
If three first-years were able to get past the traps designed to keep out Voldemort (which clearly didn't), it would seem to undermine the efficiency of said traps unless that was the true intention.
@eevvaann11
@eevvaann11 3 жыл бұрын
I think Dumbledore did set it up on purpose to test the loving protection and if it was still there, I'm sure Dumbledore would have stepped in if Harry was in real trouble. If they can place charms on places to know when people enter them I am sure Dumbledore had one on the chamber and knew everything that was happening.
@ashleyalexander2847
@ashleyalexander2847 3 жыл бұрын
My question is, in the first wizarding War, why Voldemort didn't acquire the stone? As a back up to the horcruxes
@SOLO.SHAD0W-HAWK
@SOLO.SHAD0W-HAWK 3 жыл бұрын
From what I've read it seemed He was full of himself and thought himself invincible that combined by the fact that he was winning the war, in Harry Potter and the Half Blood Prince Harry asked dumbledore why Voldemort didn't use a philosopher's stone or the elixir of life to gain immortality to which dumbledore said that Voldemort saw himself above it because he would have to consume it regularly to keep his immortal status that didn't seem to catch Tom's fancy
@lavenderflowersfall280
@lavenderflowersfall280 2 жыл бұрын
Yes the trio basically says so in the book first book
@generalbutterscotch4887
@generalbutterscotch4887 3 жыл бұрын
Well the whole "Lamb for the slaughter" line from Snape does imply that Dumbledore had questionable motives from the very beginning, but on the other hand, it could be that the Hogwarts staff is really just that bad at enforcing security... which would honestly explain how most of the terrible things in the school's history even happened in the first place lmao
@landonletterman831
@landonletterman831 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea; Dumbledore, being a skilled ligilimaz (I'm not even gonna pretend I know how to spell it, but he can read people's minds), knew Quirrel had Voldemort (or, at least, suspected it when Quirrel suddenly returned able, and wanting, to block Dumbledore from something in particular), and more or less hired him to trap him in the school with the only person in the world with a literal charm against him on their person
@ClockworkMan13
@ClockworkMan13 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think any of the obstacles were necessarily easier or harder than the others. Rather, each one focused on a different skill/virtue. Depending on the person, some would seem easier than others, but by design no one person could get through all of them alone. It was only through the combined efforts of everyone involved that the stone was accessible.
@jackiewepps4694
@jackiewepps4694 3 жыл бұрын
I personally disagree with the fact that Dumbledore ordered Hagrid to pick up up the stone while he was with Harry with the intention on bringing it to Harry's attention. He could just as well have ordered Hagrid to pick up the stone as soon as possible, as it was an urgent matter. What I do think is plausible is that he, as is very obvious, wanted Harry to be able to get the stone out of the mirror. It can be argued that there was another obstickle. That would be Harry Potter himself. In this theory, Dumbledore relies on the protection that Harry's mother placed upon him, to ensure that Voldemort would not be able to get the stone, as he would not be able to touch Harry
@sgsalmon5100
@sgsalmon5100 3 жыл бұрын
Theory’s Can u forever make more and more horcuruxs until ur the only living being If Harry never drunk Felix Felicis would he still gets slughorns memory What If draco did kill dumbledore? What if Neville actually was a squib What if mad eye never took away Harry in the goblet of fire What if mundungus never apparated in the deathly hallows What if voldermort never met hebziba smith
@zachlangable
@zachlangable 3 жыл бұрын
Well for the first one it’s been stated that Voldemort had pushed it to its limits. I think maybe a few more could be made but not an infinite amount or even close to more than 10 maybe. Just my thought
@denisriver7088
@denisriver7088 3 жыл бұрын
Well..I guess it was absolutely Dumbledore's intention to make Harry meet Tom to (sooner or later) kill him when the time comes. Because Voldemort has always been afraid of Dumbledore, and the last knew it for sure, but he was also aware that his death is walking around and there might be someone purely wise to push Harry to the right way; but I don't think that any other professor could ever do that. Even Severus..
@amanahmed4256
@amanahmed4256 3 жыл бұрын
Dumbledore isn't as innocent as he is shown in the movies.
@Smokey223
@Smokey223 Жыл бұрын
Dumbledore knew that the prophecy said neither could live while the over survived. And if Dumbledore was watching, he could have stepped in at any time to protect harry and the others. Plus Dumbledore knew when Voldemort returned, Harry would be Voldemort's number one target. So really, tasting Harry and his friends and also preparing them to face Voldemort was always a good thing. Cz they would have to face Voldemort either way. It is much better if they are prepared cz that gives them the best chance of surviving and defeating Voldemort. I also think Dumbledore knew that Voldemort would use Harry's blood to come back. Because Dumbledore knew Voldemort well and knew he would want to somehow get thru Lilly's protection of Harry. Dumbledore may not have been 100% sure thay Harry would survive. But i think he was fairly certain he would. So really everything Dumbledore did was good cz it was all to give the trio the best chance of surviving and defeating Voldemort.
@SpecialOrder_937
@SpecialOrder_937 3 жыл бұрын
What happened to fluffy … from what I remember he is only mentioned once outside of the first book He would’ve been useful during the battle for Hogwarts
@officalr4flecter715
@officalr4flecter715 3 жыл бұрын
Its scary to think one day hp theory will stop making therioes because they've gone through every :( Great video btw
@xmikachirifu
@xmikachirifu 3 жыл бұрын
Not if jk keeps tweeting lolol
@Didymus20X6
@Didymus20X6 Жыл бұрын
The thing about the Philosopher's Stone: it takes thousands of souls to create one. That's why the Elric Brothers refused to use one to restore Alphonse to his true body.
@aarongreene9382
@aarongreene9382 3 жыл бұрын
They answered this question in the book. Well as long as you read the book. Something about how Dumbledore always felt Harry should have a chance.
@Matt-zq1gi
@Matt-zq1gi 2 жыл бұрын
Here's a question and possibly an idea for a video why is making hogroxes not an unforgivable I mean for one you obviously have to perform and unforgivable curse to make one but then at the same time as Moody says there's many ways you can kill someone so they don't have to use the unforgivable curse to kill someone so why is it not outlawed outright to make one
@Treli1011
@Treli1011 3 жыл бұрын
I don't think he intended for Harry to go after it. We have no proof he told Hagrid to go WITH Harry to get the stone. But I think he knew IF Harry went through all that that he would get the stone because he would not intended to use it.
@BrennySpain
@BrennySpain 3 жыл бұрын
I really don’t remember the trolls or potions rooms, even when I read the first book a long time ago. Sounds like I might need to give it a reread soon.
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