Why Eternals is NOT GOOD... | Video Essay

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Between Dune and Shang-Chi, I've really felt like I've just been on a different wavelength from people as it pertains to the biggest releases and now Marvel's the Eternals is only adding to that feeling. Eternals felt like the MCU was ready and willing to go in a new direction, take creative risks, allow an artist's vision to be fully realized on screen and bring us something creative and fresh we haven't seen now 26 films in. Unfortunately, why trying to create a fresh original and new mcu movie, it seems as though they forgot how to tell a story. Chloe Zhao Eternals is undoubtedly a Marvel movie with ambition, unfortunately ambition alone, does not equal a good movie especially when your characters, are as uninteresting and shallow as the heroes of Eternals. With Phase 4 of the MCU already in full swing and about half or so of those Disney plus shows or new MCU movies have been bad to fine at best, phase four of the marvel cinematic universe feels a bit lost in what exactly it wants to do following the events of Avengers Endgame. Eternals or Marvel's Eternals is directed by Chloe Zhao and it stars Angelina Jolie, Gemma Chan, Richard Madden, Kumail Nanjiani, Lauren Ridloff, Brian Tyree Henry, Salma Hayek, Lia McHugh, Don Lee and Kit Harrington. Marvel Studios' Eternals features an exciting new team of Super Heroes in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, ancient aliens - Ikaris, Sersi, Phastos, Druig, Sprite, Kingo, Thena, Gilgamesh, Makkari, and Ajak - who have been living on Earth in secret for thousands of years. Following the events of Avengers: Endgame, an unexpected tragedy forces them out of the shadows to reunite against mankind's most ancient enemy, the Deviants. Griffin (@griffschiller) is joined by @OwenLikesComics to not only discuss the history of the Eternalsm, stemming from creator Jack Kirby, but why eternals is bad or why eternals is a bad movie or why eternals is not good in this mcu video essay explaining sadly, why Eternals doesn't work!
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[@FilmSpeak]

What did you all think of Eternals? Am I just crazy? 🥴 Also HUGE thank you to Skill Share for sponsoring this video, don't forget the first 1,000 people to use this link will get a 1 month free trial ➡️ skl.sh/filmspeak11211

[@superwatto941]

Please see mission impossible

[@Derek4k]

you are crazy. ive seen it twice now and its great. maybe time skips are hard for you, or character story telling isnt what you want in a movie, but i utterly enjoyed it, even more so the second time.

[@TheNerdWhoKnocks]

Crazy

[@saharasafari9]

Your just crazy

[@beeochg4]

Bro I think your trippin, the movie isn’t bad it’s just different and I liked it. Compared to Dune I found it more interesting and I was more invested in this than Dune. I liked Dune but it felt a bit dull and boring at times.

[@DragonHotCoffee]

"And when everyone's super.... no one will be" - Syndrome, the Incredibles

[@vikkidonn]

I literally said to my brother after watching this, “I’m shocked there are any actual humans in the MCU.”

[@cfan12]

@@vikkidonn Giving Thor's powers to a mortal fits this narrative to some extent.

[@summertyme5748]

No it does not. It’s amazing that Stan Lee’s genius still goes over the heads of fans. Lee is the genius writer - Kirby was the artist. It’s Lee who wrote…. _“Whosoever is worthy and wields the hammer, shall possess the power of Thor.”_ This is from the original Journey into Mystery comic. *The entire foundation of the Thor character in Marvel is based on this.* This is WHY Thor and the Asgardians worked and the New Gods and Eternals didn’t. This brilliant idea from Lee leads directly to the moment where Steve Rogers wields Mjolnir - perhaps the most powerful moment in the history of the McU. -> A mortal who is *worthy* can have the power of a God. -> A God who is *not worthy* can be stripped of his power. So it’s not really about power. It’s about character. Get it? Just…genius. And it’s amazing that people like you, and Zhao and Snyder *still* don’t get it. Eternals is a film that doesn’t even understand what it’s about.

[@camishavilme7402]

Do people not realize the comics exist…like…

[@marcusisrealious1255]

God wrote quote

[@kelliling28]

At the very least, this should have been a Disney Plus series so they could focus on each character or time.

[@fahrifarizan2338]

Agree

[@bcm3938]

That would’ve made too much sense.

[@xomi_el]

Enough with the excuses. It would be bad either way

[@ohyeah2066]

Then what would be at the very most?

[@bloomsberg7008]

That should have been better

[@captainvader921]

I honestly didn't realize there were 10 characters until I actually counted them. I'm now curious why this wasn't a Disney+ series. I mean yeah, GOTG worked, but the team was literally half that number in the first movie

[@susanamendonca1949]

I think it's because a serie with so many cgi would be too expensive

[@CaulkMongler]

Not to mention Groot doesn’t require a fully fleshed out backstory nor an arc like normal characters. And we didn’t need to know their entire life stories, we only really needed to know that all their lives were tied to the power stone/Thanos on various levels, and the mutual agreement that the universe would be in immediate danger if they didn’t do anything.

[@jinx-1]

Simple answer: Money.

[@emma9705]

+ even though gotg was just one movie, it introduced us to that set of characters gradually. eternals just threw us 10 power rangers who all came from the same place and are the same type of ‘being’. gotg had.. 5 or 6? but there was variety in their stories and each individual was memorable

[@BlueBlazeKing]

@@emma9705 Not just that but they literally have thousands of years worth of history being on earth and have shaped it to a huge extent. With Shangi Chi it’s believable how him and his father probably wouldn’t get involved with the Avengers. But with the eternals it would make zero sense for them not to help out as some of these situations would endanger the population and therefore their mission

[@Blackninja-en5vm]

Yes! Finally Thena & Gilgamesh had the best chemistry to me. She's sharp and swift and he's a gentle fist. He smoothes out her edges while ultimately being stronger while she's witty and headstrong while being deadlier. Honestly I would have pushed to have them together despite people valuing their platonic affection because honestly it looked like he was in love with her and it would have been great to see an Asian man be shown to be Eternal husband material and be married. Especially this movie wants to throw relationships at us. There's like 5 already and Sersi is in 2 of them.

[@vikkidonn]

Those two made the movie and honestly should have been the main focus. Don and Angelina were the highlights. Overall they made this.

[@via45]

Yeah if they were romantic that would be awesome, even if not shown obvious kissing and flirting like the others, I swear people are denying the possiblity like it's a crime. Like they lived together for centuries.

[@anaknangfilipina5846]

No surprise that Hollywood would prefer the stereotypical WMAF over AMWF. Sersi and Ikarus got so many close, loving gestures. Yet, Don and Angelina got literal arms-length expressions of love.

[@anaknangfilipina5846]

@@via45 People are denying the possibility of love since its AMWF. Look at how the movie shows WMAF over Don and Angelina's relationship.

[@vikkidonn]

@@anaknangfilipina5846 exactly. But I love don and ang. I’ll take that arms length over that uncomfortable (seemingly forced) sex scene any day

[@bmvthemoviefanatic7282]

After watching the film, I did find it weird my favorite character was Karun, one of the only people apart of the crew who wasn't an Eternal. Damn that guy was hilarious 😂

[@deadlypyre]

You watch MCU movies for the comedy ?

[@zac606]

@@deadlypyre When did they say that?

[@racool911]

@@deadlypyre Pretty much. That and among other things

[@ManVsBisaya]

Mine too! Literally the only entertaining part of that 2 1/2 hour long shit show.

[@fighterwho]

@@deadlypyre whats wrong with that? The films would be depressing DC failures without any humour

[@rafaelorona1395]

If you ask me, they should’ve introduced Ajak by herself and truly give her the role of a leader. She has the most interesting arc and ultimately she’s the one that went against the Celestials when she decided to abandon the mission. So it would’ve been fitting to see her come to that conclusion, it could have been a period piece film and also it could have explained why they just didn’t interfere because Ajak abandoned the mission. We could’ve had also better and smaller arcs for all supporting characters because they all would’ve had a purpose that made Ajak evaluate her stance time and time again. For me the biggest issue is that their struggle spans thousands of years instead of focusing on a part.

[@vikkidonn]

I agree but my head cannon is that they blew their load on Wandavision and didn’t want it to be similar in anyway. Also all the random marvel shows about to drop so.... the eternals got shafted hard.

[@liamphibia]

Yeah, still can't believe how much they wasted Salma Hayek.

[@rafaelorona1395]

@Lenny corrected. Thanks. 🙏🏽

[@ztartop98]

One of the reasons the Hobbit did poorly was that there were so many dwarves that each had little to no character development and it was hard to feel for them.

[@gregap8282]

No character development... in 3 movies.

[@sussysambhogi]

Yup

[@dantefromdevilmaycry9857]

@@gregap8282 Thorin is about that only character who had an Arc apart from Bilbo in that Trilogy

[@autobotproductions1244]

To be fair, that was also an issue of the original book

[@ggt47]

Funny how the 7 dwarfs had more character Development in Disney's original masterpiece.

[@TheOnlyAnglicanintheroom]

Personally my dilemma with the MCU is that it is on the road to being too big, too grand. The celestials make Thor, iron man type characters irrelevant.

[@JayXan]

Its good, because it shows that no matter how strong one character is, in this multimeter everybody is insignificant

[@autobotproductions1244]

@@JayXan because everyone likes the idea of feeling insignificant

[@professorhistoire5349]

why is that a bad thing? there are characters more significant than the original six, and it's about time people realized this.

[@bluevegeta4565]

@@professorhistoire5349 your not wrong the main 6 are not as good as the other characters in the Marvel universe. However what that person meant was that they make those characters look weak and no use in using. However having a strong character isn’t bad….you just need to make sure they can still have the potential of being beaten, because if you don’t then there’s almost no point into the story.

[@gavinmillar]

Meanwhile the new Captain America doesn't even have superpowers, but they think adding more gods is a good idea.

[@Klayhamn]

The meaning of the word "risk" means that you can fail. Otherwise there is no risk.

[@carokann4244]

In this context of film where Eternals are supposed to happen thousands of years before avengers then the risk felt naught since we already know what the future would be. Post-thanos timeline felt boring as well.

[@TommFoolery]

@@carokann4244 ... No it didn't. There are flashbacks to thousands of years before, but the main plot (and main threat) took place after Endgame. They bring up Thanos multiple times, did you actually watch the film?

[@TheCreed1217]

@@carokann4244 blatantly untrue considering this films events extends into a post thanos present. The risks are as high as ever

[@terogates1]

@@TheCreed1217 I think the op meant film risks not stakes

[@spongebobsquarepants2981]

​@@TommFooleryok....l

[@tylergracyne2511]

Actually they did explain that they succeeded with the Uni-Mind because their powers were amplified by Tiamat’s awakening, specifically giving Sersi almost Celestial-level cosmic power

[@truthoftheuniverse4179]

IT NEED TO HAVE 7 ETERNALS LUCKY NUMBER

[@tylergracyne2511]

@@truthoftheuniverse4179 lmao 😂

[@undeny]

Which maked no sense.

[@tylergracyne2511]

@@undeny respectfully, I disagree

[@officerspider7996]

@@tylergracyne2511 It doesn’t make sense but in a way fit kinda does. What doesn’t make sense is why that Deviant didn’t become a Good guy and help kill Ikarus like I’m never gonna get past that

[@bennyhoward1391]

I honestly find it so weird that a movie that is all about humanity and how good people can be I never felt that humanity. When Sersi’s boyfriend was introduced I expected him to join the Eternals and go along with the journey. He’d be a character we can relate to because he isn’t some godlike being or a super soldier or even a regular soldier, he’s just some guy. I expected him to come along and over the course of the film start relationships with the other Eternals. I expected him and Ikaris to have a almost jealous rivalry since they both love Sersi but that becomes a friendship and would then add onto Ikaris betrayal as not only is he betraying his friends but he know has meet humans and knows how good they are and his choice to let them die is more impactful because of that friendship… Instead he disappears and is replaced by the camera dude who doesn’t even serve a purpose but to be comedic relief before he too disappears. There’s so much wasted potential in this film man

[@BoozyBeggar]

There's a reason you didn't feel any humanity in this movie; it's because it's all about devilry. Research Tenochtitlan a little bit, and then remember that all the mains were angry and sad that these people were being killed by Cortes, yet they seemed to completely approve of everything else they did in this city.

[@willl9046]

Actually, Yes! I liked the movie and I hope the Eternals return for more but this was my biggest complaint. I was thinking “Wait, maybe humanity isn’t worth saving” because I didn’t get why they cared so much. I know I wouldn’t if I was an Eternal. Seems like the director trusted the audience as humans to know why we are worth saving??? But at the same time, I’m in the shoes of an Eternal and from what I can see, we’re not worth it in comparison to the broader purposes of the universe.

[@joshualally2883]

I think this movie needed Dane (Kit's character) to tag along with the quest to find the enternals as the audience stand in. This way he could ask questions as he is the outsider and give a human perspective (also while hinting to the black Knight). It would also add more depth to Cerise via there relation ship and could lead to a rivalry with Ikarus. He could still accidently treat Sprite as a child trying to protect/coddle her, which would add to her own insecuritys of her being in a child's body. I know we have Karun as the human but he already knows about the enternals via Kingo. He comes across as more of Kingo's yes man (or maybe in a subtle relationship). He doesn't really have any connection to the others or questions them to much about there stand point which is why Dane should of tagged along. The only issue I see is him being useless at the end, but some one who is smarter than me could make it work. Also ideally in this version of the movie the deviants are saved for the sequel with Ikarus or Druig being the primary "villain". With the entire conflict being derived from oposite ideology on the disposability/control humans depending on which is the "villain". Also it might be beneficial to have the entire movie set in the present no flash backs, only hints, and save the back story for the sequal then tie it with the deviants. With the sequel being more comparing and contrasting the eternals with the deviants. All while debating if the deviants have the right to live/is it wrong to hunt them. With the answer being vague cause on one hand they can wipe out all life on planets but on the other hand that is what they was evolved/created to do and are becoming sentient.

[@pika7623]

Perfect. They should’ve 100% done this. Would’ve felt more connected to the characters if Dane went through it with us.

[@markgarcia8253]

The scene when the conquistadors are slaughtering the Aztecs and Druig stands up to Ajak is my favorite moment. He’s a man who is reserved and does not show his emotions. But the millenniums of watching genocide ate his soul away knowing he could single-handedly stop it. It hurt me personally because I feel like that know about all this political culture war for the last 20 years in the US. But the line when he says “Do you know what centuries of seeing this does to me?” made me feel his Immeasurable grief

[@oscarluckin1625]

That scene reminded me so much of many episodes of doctor who where he isn’t able to change time or save someone and it tears him up inside. He is able to do so much good in the world with his powers but moments like that break them. Druid was by far the most complex character in the story, it’s a shame he gets thrown aside towards the end.

[@markgarcia8253]

@@oscarluckin1625 Imagine how torturous the afterlife is by seeing your loved ones suffer thru life

[@Avenging_Archer]

Yeah as a Mexican it rings hollow that they're so torn apart by that but apparently were super fine with the genocide the Aztecs inflicted on all the other Indigenous nations around them for generations. Classic politically correct over simplification bullshit, they didn't have the BALLS to address the complexity of the issue and instead went for this black/white buzzfeed version of history.

[@AlvaroPrieto76]

What do you know about what connects with audience or not? This movie was the best that has happened to the mcu in a long time. All the “give me more of the same” people are the ones crying. We are a movie away to burn the super hero genre just like Star Wars 9 burned Star Wars. 45 minutes spent standing in front of a work made my hundreds of people just to stand out explaining the movie to people. Pfff

[@wtxcrazydonut]

@@AlvaroPrieto76 The Eternals is one of the worst blockbusters I've seen in a long time. You want something bold and new watch Dune.

[@TomPolymathPR]

This should have been a six part series instead of a film.

[@mrtrollmc1]

That’s exactly how I felt after watching this.

[@alexuvakov3390]

They tried that before with Inhumans and it sucked way worse than this

[@tomlawal7991]

@@alexuvakov3390 That was made by ABC not Feige so it would be better

[@mikegarrens5286]

I'm worried about phase 4

[@Twofix]

How would you segment this movie to 6-part episodes?

[@alli_lee]

Chloe Zhao literally said in an interview that her biggest inspiration for the film is Man Of Steel.

[@Uglyweezer]

That’s actually really makes sense and it might be part of the reason I liked it. I still think Man of Steel is probably the only good Snyder DC movie.

[@aishaarshadalam3412]

@@Uglyweezer Zack Snyders Justice League was pretty good. But I know Snyder isn't to everyone's taste.

[@barry2349]

@@aishaarshadalam3412 snyder is garbage,dude doesn't know how to create food movies

[@armyofuno8196]

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[@aegnor2102]

@@barry2349 no, he just don't want to do ridiculous movies without soul

[@carlmurphy2416]

45 minutes of valid explanation about why film isn't good. Screenrant: Trolls can't deal with Eternals female director.

[@jasondashney]

As soon as anyone dips into racism/misogyny/xenophobia excuses as to why a move didn't do well, I'm instantly out. Wonder Woman did well, Black Panther did well, and most of the movies are about aliens. Woke ideology has no grounding in reality.

[@avanishdutta2658]

This is a foolish excuse. Chloe zhao herself pitched the eternals to kevin feige. Marvel greenlit the movie and said you direct it. There is nothing sexist or misogynistic in it. She made it herself. Now, that's no excuse, but i think some have gone too far and have mistaken political agenda for constructive criticism. Some critics are salty about not being able to be filmmakers. It's wrong and egoistical to criticism. These people, who are saying eternals bad becuase female director, should see that she is a great director and is being acclaimed by audiences and critics alike. It's idiotic and harmful how criticism has become. It's not criticism anymore, it's hatred and ego. That's the truth, like it or not. And i am tired of this outrage culture. This monetisation of hate. People like fandom menace do that. They monetise on people's hatred towards hollywood rather than providing solutions to curb this PC. It's wrong and shows hypocrisy. Agree or disagree, this is what it is. Not everybody might be bad, but nerdrotic, heelvsbabyface, geeks and gamers, mecharandom42( her audacity to say that snyder sold his daughter to pedowood! He lost his daughter autumn and grieved for her. He didn't return until his fans called him. She also called him father of the year! She is the worst garbage i have seen. She took shots at his family, let alone his daughter who died.), mindless entertainment, midnight's edge, that star wars girl( she is a good artist, but monetises on hollywood hatred). These are the only members who i think are the worst. Granted that i know people want good storytelling and filmmaking, but it will come at a cost. This is a weird phase hollywood is going through. It will take 15 years for this to end. I still remember joker being pryed upon by critics for its depiction of mental illness and patients, but there is a video by Justwrite who discusses whether or not movies should teach morality. Go watch it, his points are great. The movie is amazing though. A flawed masterpiece. Yes it's paying homage to taxi driver and king of comedy( or copied?), but this movie is produced by Martin Scorsese, so he has a hand in the storytelling along with Todd Philips. Makes sense, you know.

[@danthovict381]

Did you watch his video about eternals and connecting it to the bible? Lol i just like...dude seriously?

[@Figgy20000]

Half of the essay is saying it's too similar and based off Synder's films which is complete horseshit. Long doesn't mean good. Eternals wasn't great but at least attack it for the right reasons, this film was nothing like Snyder has ever done they are completely different styles in every single way.

[@olivernguyen1709]

@@danthovict381 huh?

[@jackall-trades6149]

In one of the Final Fantasy games, there is a group of people known as "The Gifted". They're born with supernatural abilities, yes, but the story focuses on their agelessness. The first one you meet mentions how he couldn't hold his psyche together watching his friends and loved ones rot while he lingered on, so he decided to live as a hermit. You meet more throughout the story and each has their own trauma in regards to this ability. One even commits suicide. The girl traveling with you is also Gifted and she decides by the end of her arc to try living with people as best she can, but it's left ambiguous as to whether or not she'll eventually succumb to grief. When you give people powers, talents, abilities, tools, or authority, you have to consider the path it would lead them on. These days they just slap qualities onto characters without any depth or development.

[@youareloved4226]

but it's the first movie and not everybody has to have trauma from their special abilities

[@jackall-trades6149]

@@youareloved4226 very true. Trauma is just an example. Asgard tended to look down on Midgard for their short lifespans. In Mass Effect you have Asari and Krogan with long lives, and Salarians with short ones, so you see both perspectives. Even outside that, in Kingdom Hearts there's the unwritten rule against meddling in affairs private to other worlds because you're coming in with a lot of power and potentially affecting the outcomes of conflicts while possibly missing crucial context. That seems to be how they handled the infinity saga conundrum in the script, but they still interfered with humans anyway. Repeatedly.

[@RosieSquall]

@@youareloved4226 true, but at least half of them already do. It would have been very interesting to delve deeper into each character. That is why the movie format simply doesn’t work for Eternals in particular.

[@mochiyeosang1908]

Don't Druig and Phastos already embody that though? And you could even argue that Sprite and Thena were affected as well.

[@sophiaruizuvalle2523]

This wouldve been AMAZING with two seasons on Disney+, and then the movie I just want more

[@rnsw4572]

No one is even talking about salma Hayek’s character, is she even relevant in the film lol and even Kumal nanjiani.. I feel like they were hugely wasted..

[@4deleDaz33m]

Salma Hayek was completely wasted imo. She did great but the material she was given. I didn't care a single bit about Ajak's death cuz it felt so rushed and forced

[@driquea4739]

@@4deleDaz33m She wanted to stop the Emergence and tell the rest of the team about it. If Ikaris didn’t kill her (or rather lead her to her death), the rest of the movie wouldn’t have played out.

[@YouStolemyJoke]

“I don’t like comparing filmmakers” then proceeds to spend 10 mins on Zack Snyder during a video about Cloe Zhous movie. >.>

[@Batman89057]

Because she herself directly said that Man of Steel was a massive inspiration for this film. He has every right to compare when the filmmaker herself did so... Her words, not his. Next...

[@Eliza.HawkeyeJane]

Just watched Zack Snyder’s Cut. 😎😄DC Heroes are also based upon Mythology, Philosophy and the History of Humanity - just like the Marvel Heroes. 😎 To each his own.

[@AlehGea]

@@Batman89057 She never said Man of Steel inspired this movie, she said Zack Snyder direction of Man of Steel was what make her to like superheroe movies.

[@purejade2094]

@@Eliza.HawkeyeJane depends on which heroes, Superman is not.

[@pochu9506]

@@Batman89057 that wasn't the criticism here. the criticism is he didn't need to lie about him not liking comparing filmmakers when it's apparent that he has no qualms doing so and he actually seemed delighted to do it.

[@shannonpotratz489]

I loved Eternals. I loved how it embraced the larger, more bonkers concepts of the Marvel comics universe. I can't wait to see it again. This was a refreshing break from the standard Marvel formula and I welcome it... And I disagree that you can't deconstruct characters you've just met, after all, that's exactly what Watchmen was...

[@BrogiNaric]

That's a very good point about the WATCHMEN characters.🤔💯

[@AustinPPutnam]

The very beginning. Couldn't agree more and it fits this movie to the tee. I admire what Chloe Zhao was trying to do, but I felt like she bit off way more than she could chew.

[@FilmSpeak]

100%

[@MrDrProfessorSir962]

She directed a beautifully shot movie. Biting more than she can chew is almost sexist and hilarious since the movie is also not a lot to chew lol so please make it make sense

[@antona.1327]

@@MrDrProfessorSir962 what??

[@sammy3347]

@@MrDrProfessorSir962 sigh

[@arpitakodagu9854]

@@MrDrProfessorSir962 Crying sexism is a good way to get ignored. GTFO, the grown ups are talking.

[@thedefinitive6296]

I also wanted the MCU to go inward and explore the characters more. That's one thing I really enjoyed about WandaVision and, to a lesser degree, Falcon and Winter Soldier. I'd be stoked if Chloe Zhao got to do a quiet introspective Disney+ series focused on Steve Rogers. I think she'd be perfect for something like that. Great essay!

[@3rdegree13]

It’s amazing that you articulated everything I felt about this film. It is indeed missing the most important piece of a good character driven story, emotion. I felt empty afterwards.

[@nshaw2311]

I feel like this really would have worked better as a show. Focusing an episode on each of the elements that were underexplored in the film. Every plot seemed rather disconnected and small the way they were presented in the film, so there was never any time to get invested.

[@meamaximaculpa5810]

I was mostly let down by the ruined potential of Sprite , Druig , Kingo and literally anyone who isn’t Icaris and Sersi. If everyone is so great why did they only focus on those two? The rest were practically useless and therefore coudln’t have had development. I’m especially mad they made Sprite a backstabbing school girl (albeit with a redemption arc) and Kingo just a shallow dumb movie star. Druig should have gotten a better role at the climax of the film. I love how he stood up to Ajak because it shows how much suffering of people knowing he can’t interfere has messed with his head. I wish we could have seen more scenes where he cared for the people and not just the one in the rainforest and babylon (?). ALSO A HUGE LET DOWN IS THE ROMANCE. The film should have focused more on Thena and Gilgamesh cuz their affection and chemistry is so much better than the rest. I also don’t like Druig and Makkari’s relationship cuz it was so sudden and unexplainable , they’re an amazing couple but I wish we saw more : ( I was also let down by the cinematography , especially next to the brilliant Shang Chi that came out two months prior. Overall Chloè’s style is evident and we can see her desire to experiment and add on with this project but one movie can only fit so many storylines.

[@catherinerosa644]

I felt like they had more interesting backgrounds and personalities. Why did the film focus so much on the 2 most boring, flat characters is beyond me. Ikaris being just another superman, and how everyone just treats him as the boss cause his the most powerful. Was just so cliché, they did try to show how everyone stood against him, like overcoming the person they looked up to. But it just felt soo flat and srsly overdone. It's 2022 we've been over this. Sersi was just soo boring, and the fact that she has 7 thousand years of memories and was so unsure of herself was extremely discouraging and annoying. To the point that Thena had to tell her we don't have time for this bull, get up. It was funny to me how Icaris actually had chemistry with ajak and thena (I thought he was flirting with them all) but none with sersi. That intimidade scene was the most awkward thing I ever seen, it was painful to watch. Thena was a really interesting character that left me wanting to see her story, her battles and suffering through so many years until she became what she was shown as. And her relationship with Gilgamesh, how did they become so close and thrusting through the years. Druig seemed like the most interesting of all, does controlling minds give him some insight into the person's mind? He could've built his own paradise, maybe the Aztec empire was his doing? How did he live the last 2500 years since he parted from the group? Kingo was great, so funny, I would've love to see how he became a star and his funny interactions over his life. Though his power is kinda blah so he could be blended with someone's like sprite? I feel like most of them could be smashed together as few characters. Like what was the point of Makari? Loved Phatos but he had so little time, it was impossible feeling any connection with his character.

[@dianneriverq3064]

As someone that had watch the MCU but isint really a fan. I came out of the theater liking this film, all the points you make are valid but I personally enjoy this more that other Avanges film. It feels like something unique and I wasn’t mad about they telling me stuff instead of showing it because I’m just open to get to know this characters and knew word . They are basically robots, being shields of character is kinda reasonable. It’s honestly, not a bad film, nothing amazing, but it was actually pretty good 😂

[@lellan1288]

I gotta agree. I had no expectations going in, no background with them at all. I only really started paying attention to the MCU after Infinity War, but didn’t bother watching all the movies I had missed prior. Needless to say I’m not all that concerned eith the MCU. I mostly expected to forget about it with the end of Iron Man and Captain America’s stories. But from the moment the trailer dropped, I gravitated to this movie a lot more than any other MCU movie that ever came out. And while I see the technical issues, I felt attached to these characters. The movie brought me to tears several times, something none of the other movies did strangely (with the exception of Tom Holland’s death 🥲). So strangely enough, this didn’t feel like an MCU movie and I actually really liked it. In fact, it was the first thing that made me anticipate the future of the MCU. It didn’t feel too girl bossy, and left me asking a lot of interesting questions. Sorry for the long response! 😅

[@kiranaanugrah1411]

Oh my... me too. I'm not really a fan of Marvel in general but I do watch all of MCU movie and series. And for me personally, this movie is a perfect stepstone before we enter MULTIVERSE. MCU already mentioned several times on multiverse. For me before we know the concept of multiverse, we need to know who they really are.

[@mochiyeosang1908]

I'm a huge marvel fan and loved this movie. Sersi was my favorite and Sprite was my least favorite by far.

[@TheMoodyfire]

Same here! i walked into the theater blind, and came out quite liking it and sort of understanding the lore. i was actually pleased that the normal citizens weren’t super mindblown by what was happening - of course they’d be desensitized by the blip 😂

[@quinsonggames1612]

I also agree. Eternals is so different from all the other MCU movies that it is super refreshing and I really appreciate that the movie is dealing with more matured topics such as morally grey areas and where people with relationships with each other can stand. I honestly find myself really thinking deeply of the themes of the movie during the slower drawn out scenes, and that's something I had never done in any of the other MCU movies before this. The other MCU movies had always been "yeah ok, tell me what happens" but in Eternals I find myself asking the characters "oh gosh what are you going to do now, you're stuck between a rock and a hard place." The characters are vastly more dynamic because they make active decisions instead of the world happening to them (looking at u Shang Chi). I really feel a lot of these reviewers are just trying to "follow the flock" of other reviewers on rotten tomatoes for fear of being cast aside or losing audience. MCU is over a decade old now, that means youngsters who watched the first Iron Man are now in their twenties or thirties and possibly working and paying bills and are matured now. This is the right step and even though is not an episodal series, I think it deserved a cinematic movie, and was presented fantastically. I hope Marvel reads all these comments because they shouldn't keep making too kiddy shows for their matured audience.

[@pablor491]

I liked it. I was happy to see MCU actually take a risk in the films. I hadn't felt that way since Infinity War and that was a while ago.

[@dime1012]

The concept, scale, and visuals were top tier, could’ve def been better but it was cool

[@xl6941]

I loved it too

[@jinx-1]

Right? It's fresh at least. The story itself is super epic. The last couple of MCU projects all felt the same. It was starting to get boring so this was a positive surprise. Also I'm super exited for the whole multiverse storyline to kick in with Spiderman No Way Home and Doctor Strange 2 and I couldn't be more excited for phase 5. I really want to find out how they'll introduce the X-men. The MCU is finally starting to get interesting. Eternals was the first step and I'll take it. I hope Disney doesn't ruin it.

[@klimero271]

That ad for skill share was endless

[@Viktor-Vaughn-Doom]

Even skipping it was long

[@turtleanton6539]

Right rigjt

[@TheGragsel]

You could have said eternal, but somehow didn't..?

[@Vaajraath]

As far as deaf characters go, Millicent Simmonds has been a rockstar in the two Quiet Place movies, front and center as a heroic lead. So at least there's that.

[@FilmSpeak]

Amen to that! She’s amazing!

[@justingary5322]

@@FilmSpeak AGREED WHOLEHEARTEDLY SHE'S DOPE GREAT PERFORMANCES BUT SERIOUSLY THIS MOVIE SUCKS NONETHELESS 😔🤣

[@jimjambonks4205]

So how are you supposed to scream for help if she cant hear you 🤔

[@alexm.c.312]

she's also still currently killing in the walking dead too. The movie still wasn’t that good

[@JaykeoSaurus]

I'm not against Disabled people at all but to give the disabled person one of the most op powers which is speed makes no sense. The celestials can create beings out of nothing and if a defect did happen in creation they can just blink it out of existence and do it again. But hey it's Disney so im not surprised by representation. I also get they tried ro say she can feel vibrations but if you need her help she aint hearing your vibration from the other side of the planet.

[@sirenfang1179]

tonally this movie feels like a sequel for an ensemble cast we *should* have been introduced to individually before. it's as if we had skipped right over iron man's, thor's or captain america's solo movies to start with the first avengers film.

[@user-ci4ip9wq5f]

But with the Eternals, their only enemies are the deviants (and now celestials). Whilst Thor, iron man etc… have endless villains to fight and have their solo films. Idk about in the comics but these eternals don’t have much depth, as they have one purpose to kill deviants. I think it was over hyped pre release but now it’s over hated

[@nailinthefashion]

that's the point, so you at least caught that much-- but more importantly, you can't introduce just one of the core eternals at a time. they can now introduce dozens more, and you'll understand generally what they go through. you'll be able to watch a full hour about Ikaris as he's resurrected and builds a family, and is taught new lessons about grief; or Sprite learning what it means to be human.

[@dirkdar1]

This isn't a movie about heroes. The eternals aren't heros they are tools. This is a story of nature vs nurture. The greater good versus morality. This isn't a super hero movie, it's a thought project.

[@alexvu2549]

SPOILERS I thought this video was very well said. If you asked me a thumbs or thumbs down for the movie, I'd say thumbs up. I enjoyed the film overall, but I didn't think it was anything great. But one of the biggest things that I wanted to echo from the video was the lack of connection and emotions the film has with the audience. Take Ikaris' decisions and "betrayal". You see his inner conflict and turmoil at having to go against his "family" in order to continue serving his masters and continue to allow millions of races to form in the universe (I also think Richard Madden did quite a good job - and being honest, it's a genuine moral dilemna). You see how hard it is for him. You even see his mind change after the flashback. But you never FEEL it. What should be an incredibly emotionally charged moment just doesn't hit And I think that's true of most of the film. You see all these things happen. You're told to feel this way. But you don't FEEL it. It lacks that connection and I do agree that it felt shallow and just... Empty in many ways. And yes. The Ikaris death thing was a bit too on the nose for me

[@Deeptimay]

It's just introduction 101 to eternal verse, you lack connection because it's 10 charaters, and this movie is charater buildup movie, in the next movie you will connect and shout at the entry of these charaters

[@MrDrProfessorSir962]

@@Deeptimay i was connected. Being lied about your purpose hit home. Thena being vicious murderer and her protector dying was worthwhile. Idk lol some people actively want to hate it.

[@alexvu2549]

@james Deer I didn't personally see anything pandering to the LGBTQ+ community, BUT I will agree the sex scene felt very weird to me

[@Deeptimay]

​@@MrDrProfessorSir962 exactly, Thena was conflicted, go and watch a schizophrenic patient you will understand

[@zawthantkyaw]

It seems like the lack of depth in the characters and the relationships is going to divide opinions about this movie. As you mentioned, you didn’t feel the ‘emotionally charged’ moment, whereas I did. The scene where he couldn’t bring himself to shoot sersi with his laser eyes paired with the flashback really hit it for me. I was able to relate to him in a sense that he couldn’t bring himself to hurt or kill someone he loves to follow his belief.

[@mochafrappawhat]

I thought Chloe did an fine job given how much characters, plot, world building, and development/character construction she had to do in 2 1/2 hours. It has weird pacing problems and chemistry between characters (*cough* ikaris and sersi), but overall it was enjoyable. Solid 7.8/10 for me.

[@kamialexis4831]

Exactly

[@mistercat5300]

True and you can also see her style in it. I would give it a 8/10. The slow pace of act 1 is no problem at all.

[@plzgege]

i’m replying really late but i’ve seen lots of people say that the relationship between Ikaris and Sersi was weird and i think that was intentional. Sersi is essentially the mc and as such, we see a lot through her eyes and i think the weirdness between the two was made to show how she viewed their relationship. but idk

[@pochu9506]

I see what you did there (7.8/10)

[@alien1299]

As a person who really really loves eternals, at the same time eternals is incredibly frustrating for me because honestly, it could have been Marvel's Magnum Opus, a classic mythological story mixed with the world of superheroes and sci fi. The potential this movie had could easily put it above infinity war in terms of a movie, if it were executed that way. I loved Eternals and still do but honestly, it missed it's potential.

[@Brendan.C]

I honestly think this was one of the Marvel films, because it makes it seen the world so small, and it kinda felt like a DC by how powerful the characters are and I love that!! The worldbuilding of how stars, planets, and galaxies are born is amazing, and yes the middle part is kinda boring but it brings your interests right back in no time and just brings in nonstop action. The only thing that was kinda bad is the power scaling. There are these powerful comic dmeon beasts that can beat other comic beings, but can be hurt by a gun

[@KingOfMadCows]

I think they should have tried doing the Eternals more in animations first. Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes was able to add a lot to Marvel's cosmic side and if they had continued, they could have done the Eternals. Similarly, look at how the New Gods were really popularized by Superman: The Animated Series and the DCAU. Lots of people want to see the New Gods now but go back to before Michael Ironside's iconic Darkseid in the DCAU, no one outside of comic book fans knew who the New Gods were. The DCAU basically did for the New Gods what RDJ did for Iron Man. Also, I have to point out that the Eternals are very different to Superman. Superman, despite being an alien, was raised by humans and is very human. The Eternals were always alien and godlike, some try to fit in with humans but others still retain very alien perspective. I don't think Chloe Zhao was trying to deconstruct them at all. She's portraying them as looking at humanity through different, often, alien perspectives.

[@truthoftheuniverse4179]

YOU KNOW THIS NEED TO HAVE 7 FEMALE ETERNALS GAIA ANGELINA JOLIE

[@marcus2271]

Watched it earlier tonight and to be honest it wasn’t as bad as most critics are saying, but it’s not as good as MCU fans are trying to make it out to be. Solid 6/10 for me

[@bluepearl_22]

Same

[@TheNerdWhoKnocks]

Same

[@NTEDOG561]

Yep

[@imanigordon6803]

Agreed

[@yosyherr1591]

Exactly

[@thabreez456]

Chloe Zhao recently talked about the Zack Snyder Man of Steel inspiration in a Interview. Yes it happened boys.

[@FilmSpeak]

YEP and everyone is like “why’d you bring up Snyder there’s no similarities!” She so obviously took inspiration from Man of Steel and that’s fine, but that’s a why I made the comparison…because it feels like it.

[@ChimenExpress]

I think people are asking for too much by wanting everything to be a TV show because of shows like Game of Throne, and the MCU mini-series. I personally think it works as a movie. The characters are there for the right amount of time to served their purpose.

[@langreeves6419]

I don't want everything as a TV show with loads of details and back story. This movie developed each character enough for the story without bogging down. Good movie!

[@jordansweet8054]

Thank you. People need to stop acting like they know better than the studios. They do sometimes but not always.

[@artwithlaur]

I still don't think this would've worked as a show. All it would've done was make characters better but I don't think it would've helped my thoughts about the story as a whole. I would've probably got bored by the third episode. This movie is just bad and could've been brilliant. Sad to see as they had such a talented cast

[@BrogiNaric]

As someone who shit talked this movie since it was announced, I absolutely enjoyed the hell out of it! It was easier for me to think of The Eternals as superhero archetypes in their own universe as opposed to being a part of the MCU. But, this movie is not as bad as other MCU films. 💯 Also, I feel Chloe Zhao did some of Zack Snyder's schick, but better.🤣🤷🏿‍♂️

[@edenmckinley3472]

I think the key to getting past the jaded audience problem is to do exactly what the eternals failed at - go deep into the characters and explore their personalities, their ideals, their struggles, and how those things interact with the world around them.

[@dougmcboat7276]

That's *exactly* what the film did. It introduced characters into the present day cast one by one so that their personality could be explored. Their ideals and beliefs were practically the focus of the whole third act, with Ikaris doing anything at any cost to preserve the birth of a Celestial, Kingo feeling the same way but disagreeing with his methods, Sprite agreeing for personal gain instead, and then Phastos disagreeing because of a personal stake, Sersei out of general empathy, and Druig and Makkari because of love. This is the least valid complaint I've seen this entire thread

[@barbiquearea]

I thought I would have to wait until Filmento puts out a video to see a comprehensive breakdown on what Eternals did not work. But honestly I don't think anyone could have done a better job than you taking a crack at it.

[@FilmSpeak]

Cheers man!

[@rexeshd5759]

Damn right!

[@ij7957]

Giant lifeless & hollow characters preaching life & humanity was excruciating to watch to say the least.

[@anyawood2098]

there’s so much passion out into this movie, it’s a shame people are overlooking the refreshing approach this story takes toward story telling, especially within the mcu

[@surreal9239]

haha so true fellow human being with flesh and skin who breathes!!

[@thekingsson1757]

It’s kinda lame

[@davidgeldner2167]

I loved it, bro. But at this point…nothing but respect.

[@FilmSpeak]

Glad you dug it dude! I genuinely look forward to hearing your takes 👊🏻❤️

[@paoloaccomando4778]

Here's the mistake, This directors talent is in character development she should have been saved for the rebooted Wolverine, or Doctor Doom ....this is an action movie, that doesn't work...give this to an action director, that was the key mistake...clashing visions is so clearly the issue, that its horrible

[@Uglyweezer]

What are you talking about? This was a completely character driven story.

[@scaryhours2220]

I thought the guy who had the cyclops power looked super cool.

[@iluvbabiepanda]

He flew like superman

[@BlueHooloovoo]

I liked Eternals. It's big, ambitious, and weird. But also small, intimate and human. It feels so different to every other Marvel film, right from the first scene. I really admire the ambition of Chloe Zhao, and I doubt anyone else could have done this type of material justice. I hope she comes back for the sequel, and she gets bigger, stranger and weirder. I also admire her gumption. She could have easily gone with the safe bet and directed Black Widow. The surefire hit. But instead she went "Nah, I want to direct the one about the immortals and the space gods!" Mad respect for that.

[@goolumf]

This! I couldn’t put words to it but the intimate, human, and weirdly artistic part sets it apart from the ol avengers

[@youarein1ov3]

Except for the part where Chloe Zhao was the reason her movie continued to perpetuate the age old Hollywood brown stereotypes

[@moon1night7]

Sure its "human" lol they dgaf about the humans

[@alenjoju2661]

@@moon1night7 wasn't that the whole point of the movie? some eternals risking everything to save humans!

[@goolumf]

@@youarein1ov3 I haven’t thought of that, me and my friends loved kumail nanjiani’s performance, aside from him being by in bollywood, what stereotype did he perpetuate?

[@OwenLikesComics]

Thanks for watching, everyone! Hope you enjoyed the video, and thank you to Griffin for having me on.

[@FilmSpeak]

Thanks buddy for joining me on this! Video wouldn’t be what it is without you 🙏🏻

[@summertyme5748]

So far there are two Eternals in the MCU that I have liked: 1) Wen Wu 2) The One who Remains. Yes, they are actually Eternals...immortal beings living amongst mortals with all the fascinating paradoxes of such an existence implied. As for Zhao's Spandex wearing Robot Gods.... I have no idea of what the h#ll those things are, or why I should care?

[@milanhvozdik3379]

I had zero interest in this movie, trailers didn't grab me at all and I was expecting it to fail. So when reviews came in I wasn't surprised at all. But after watching this video and learning who is actually directing it I said to myself that I have to watch it and make my own opinion. And I am so happy I did. I absolutely loved the movie. It was much deeper and more mature than any other Marvel movie. I liked every character and had no issue understanding their struggles and empathizing with them. Didn't mind the length and it didn't drag for me at all. I would actually prefer if it was even longer since some parts felt a bit rushed. I also don't agree that there was a weak villain. In my opinion, there was no villain at all. Only the cast of powerful characters tormented over centuries facing impossible choices and their consequences. I feel people are just trying to fit this movie into a mold it doesn't belong into. It might be my favorite Marvel movie now alongside Ragnarok and Infinity War. Have to watch it again.

[@milanhvozdik3379]

I just watched it a second time on IMAX and it was amazing. Not so emotional since I knew what was coming but I could focus on cinematography and details more. Every story point makes sense, is perfectly explained, and foreshadowed in the movie. You can see everything on characters from the beginning if you know what is really happening. Every interaction and emotion makes sense even more in context. The acting is amazing whole movie is beautifully put together. Even grand plot of Celestials, the existence of Eternals and Deviants makes sense from how it is set up and explained. I am so full of dumbed-down movies that don't trust viewers with any kind of thought process (and sad to see they're kind of right seeing the reception of this movie). This was such a breath of fresh air. Also how you could miss that Sersi loves humanity "beside someone saying that" is beyond me. The first third of a movie is basically scenes of Sersi loving humanity in different variations.

[@rui5421]

100% agree. people keep applying these cliche superhero tropes when mcu movies are moving toward genre films featuring super heroes. There is no big bad in eternals because the eternals themselves ARE the big bad. Their conflict with their mission is the problem. None of them feel the exact same about the mission and whether its right or wrong. It doesnt even resolve the conflict. The characters make a choice, and the consequences have yet to come. This movie wont appeal to everyone, fine, but i reckon that a narrow view of what MCU movies should be is often the complaint for this movie and most recent mcu movies that try to let the filmmakers vision shape the style. It’s the most comic book thing we’ve ever had on film. Like comic editions crafted by new artists who put their style as the filter for stories and characters we’ve known and seen before. Eternals was a win for me.

[@rui5421]

@@milanhvozdik3379 your point about sersi is spot on. People don’t seem to realize that from her first moment seeing earth, to her choice at the end, she was always in love with earth. The thing i think most people miss is that, the love between her and Ikaris is mostly one-sided. While sersi loved ikaris, she loved the other eternals and earth enough to put them first. Ikaris ONLY loved sersi and his mission. Their first interaction was Sersi saying how beautiful earth was, and Ikaris ignoring earth and admiring her and introducing himself. He could have killed all the eternals, except her. That conflict between his mission and her made an almost impossible decision for him until the very end. That love toward sersi, is what I think sprite was in love with. Not Ikaris, but rather the love that Ikaris and sersi had, that she couldn’t have. Then living with sersi post ikaris breakup only taunted her more because they had something she wanted, and they let it go.

[@zunaidparker]

Damn right! This movie is FANTASTIC and a clear Top 10 MCU film.

[@wade13murphy]

@@rui5421 and explains why Ajak gave the lead to sersi, she knew ikaris would kill her, but knew sersi would do the right thing when she found out the truth, and Ajak just couldn't do it. Flew away like Omni Man.

[@salt.2650]

I disagree Makkari and Gilgamesh we're kinda underdeveloped in my opinion but other than that all the other characters are so well rounded and developed. The acting is fantastic the climax has an amazing payoff where all the characters end their disagreement within and decide to come together for the greater good. Sersi and Ikaris were obviously fantastic but I actually also really enjoyed sprite and her conflict was really relatable and I almost got a bit of a Romeo and Juliet vibe for her and Ikaris. Which is so fantastic because everyone knows the best thing to do to confidently show romance is tragedy. The fact that she would rather become mortal than live another Day as a child, unable to do anything is just amazing. But by far, my favourite character in the entire movie, was druig. He. Was. Amazing. My favourite scene in the whole movie is the scene where they are all at the war in the past, right before they all break up. I loved it because druig is the only one there that is like no. You people are blindly following this arishem guy. You're blinded by loyalty and I'm not going to sit by and watch these people kill eachother. And the only person opposing him is Ikaris. It's just so good. Like I wouldn't even really call it a marvel movie, I mean the powers and the giant climax and the CGI aliens definitely felt like marvel, but at its core, this is a story about conflict within. How people with different allegiances and different beliefs, people who fight for different things and do it for different people. And the people themselves, the people that have been told one thing for thousands of years, never told to believe anything else, suddenly realise that they have a choice, the internal conflict you see as they struggle with this epiphany one by one, all in different ways is honestly poetic. I honestly feel like the reason people don't like this movie, is because they don't pay attention, they don't sit down and are like "today I'm going to watch eternals" they go into it like "oh let's check out this marvel movie I bet it will be bad." And then they are surprised that they had a bad time. Throughout this 2 hours and 30 minutes you need to be invested, you need to listen and really think and take in and philosophise as to what you are seeing. I never do this in a marvel movie, ever. The only other marvel film that made me feel this good, was spider verse, and that's a Sony movie so it barely even counts. This movie isn't really for the average mcu fan, this movie is for people that really care. And that is why my love for this movie is *Eternal.*

[@travis_mitchell]

One double edged sword here, is the choice to have the characters behave like people, as opposed to movie characters. Kingo leaves the movie in the third act, and it makes sense for his character, but is unsatisfying and jarring because he’s simply gone. We never cut back to him during the action to get his perspective on what’s happening. It’s the same with Dane who is introduced as a major character in the opening of the film, only to kind of disappear aside from a few phone calls until the very end. He’s not around otherwise because he’s only a human and can’t be in on the action. That said, we once again lose emotional investment because we’re not getting perspective from a character we were told to care about. Imagine if in Return of the Jedi, when Lando goes to blow up the Death Star, we never cut back to him. We just see him pop in at the end after it’s destroyed. It would feel very bizarre, Awkward, and unearned. The movie is full of characters and character arcs/choices you’re meant to be invested in, but simply aren’t shown enough of on screen to be fully invested.

[@cbrreezzyy69]

Why all this walking on eggshells when it comes to criticizing Zhao? She wrote and directed the movie, she 100% deserves criticism.

[@Sugarcoatedcandy101]

Everyone's afraid of being called racist. But a shitty movie is a shitty movie no matter who made it.

[@oisinmckenna1054]

I’ve said this a thousand times now. The Eternals trailer made me think ‘huh that’ll be a cool tv series’. I swear to god I genuinely instinctually thought ‘TV series’ when I saw it’s first footage etc. I think it’s fair to say many of our favourite tv series wouldn’t work as a film. ‘Big little lies’ was originally a feature film until an exec Producer suggested to make it be a tv series at last minute and it worked beautifully. This would’ve been a fantastic tv series giving each character time and all the nuances a greater amount of time. Imagine a full episode covering Icarus and that thing he did (spoilers).

[@StephanieRoestel]

"And when everyone's super, no one will be." - syndrome from the Incredibles

[@dejuanhickman3175]

This was one of the few marvel movies that felt like a film, to me.

[@micmorgan84]

Yeah I saw it last night and was surprised how much I enjoyed it. It kind of makes me feel like if this wasn’t an mcu film people would say it was great film.

[@trekkiedave7910]

@@micmorgan84 I agree - this film transends both MCU and comic book films - it’s a cinematic experience in my opinion - can i say a humanist science Fiction masterpiece tackling deeper themes of Morality, theology and mortality This film as a deeper film absolutely does not disappointment - i fundamentally disagree with this reviewers take on this film - I think he’s wrong !

[@theseus2776]

So true. The movie was something. On my way home from watching it and definitely gonna watch it over the weekend again. The movie was really magnificent

[@firstlast9846]

Mic Morgan - nah I feel the people say it’s a great film IF it’s an MCU movie not the other way around

[@ki11aqueen5]

Lol

[@trekgreenwood6743]

My problem is that it’s a “Get the band back together” movie, but there’s too much people in the band. Three people in the band MAX and you could do a movie like that. This needed at least an 8 episode tv show before a movie.

[@nikeee318]

I really hope Marvel sees videos like these. All these characters are so important and so interesting and they need more. They just need more.

[@dootdadoot2278]

I feel like they should've split up the eternals up, similar to infinity war, one group focuses on stopping the deviance (Gilgamesh, Thena, Kingo, druid, and makkari) and the rest focus on the emergence. And have all the characters team up right before the middle of the movie so that we arent't going to wait the entire movie makkari and phastos to join the conflict. I feel that would've made the movie better. If infinity war could juggle 20+ characters like that, then eternals could juggle 10 .

[@haroldvazquez2614]

Zack Snyder managed to take a piece of work such as Watchmen, copy it 1 to 1 at most points, and still, somehow, strip it of all the substance it had. There's very little, to anything, that should be taken from his "contributions" to making superhero films.

[@RosieSquall]

Honestly, it’s a convoluted, poorly developed mess that had a lot of potential. This should have been a series in order to develop all the ideas, concepts, characters and interactions between them and those already introduced. Unpopular opinion: they could have swapped Eternals with The Falcon and the Winter Soldier. Made Eternals a series and Falcon a 2 hour movie.

[@whitespyder9]

I’ve been saying that for months! TFATWS should’ve been a movie.

[@donalone]

After checking the reviews before I watched it, I unexpectedly and unprepared to have enjoyed it so much. The emotions, love for family and friends, the motivations, and story telling as the observers to watch how human beings progress deeply touched me in every aspects. And it’s a beautifully shot with great music. I was so moved toward the end and cried as if it was a movie from Pixar. Understand the review can be very subjective thing and everyone can have different views. I’m not a Marvel fanboy, I think Shang Chi is very disappointing in story telling with the logic flaw. But Eternal really impressed me.

[@bijikedelai]

32:50 i think the failure of Inhuman series kinda make them reluctant to do another new big superhero group series. But personally I also think Eternal would develop better as a series.

[@jermainenowels9511]

I don’t like how they did Ikaris towards the end. For a character that’s one of the key Eternals I thought that was weak ending. I expected more from the characters. They probably should’ve started with the Main 6 Eternals to work with.

[@ddwow566]

It was weak and predictable

[@ApolloPlanetary]

@@ddwow566 Ikaris’s development was not predictable. He did what he thought was right after following Ajak for years, and almost killed his family because of that. He struggled his his sense of purpose, and what it meant to be a hero. That is storytelling ground Marvel has never touched until now

[@jermainenowels9511]

@@ApolloPlanetary well flying into the sun is predictable lol

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yooo! Like this review? Check out my rant on Eternals!!

[@liuwang9899]

@@ApolloPlanetary It was predictable as hell, movie was decent at best.

[@wllngtnjhnsn]

Funnily enough Zhao has since come out and said MOS and Snyder’s Superman were inspirations for this film. Also funnily enough, it’s that, the visuals, and DC references that make me want to see the film at all. Zhao is truly trying to do something with this film that the MCU has failed to do, and that’s worth supporting alone

[@danielcamachofrancabandier8392]

Man of Steel is one of the best superheroes movies that I've ever seen. Brilliant wokr by Snyder.

[@doinitwell67]

I had no problem with the movie. The story was coherent. I liked the characters. Although I believe this movie was more of an introduction. No real issue here. Not to me.

[@xm1746]

i searched eternals review because i just needed someone to tell me what the heck i just watched and why i didn't like it i couldn't pin point exactly what it was that didn't sit right with me all i could say was all the relationships felt nonexistent though in other marvel movies it's pretty easy to tell whats wrong off the bat this helped

[@bemasaberwyn55]

I can honestly say this, "oh look it's a god fight" blaise attitude is something that I felt watching the few trailers I actually did watch. This feeling has been prevalent since Civil War for me. The problem that I see with the mainstream mcu is it's ALL about humanity. I know you mentioned you hate doing comparisons with the Snyderverse, but showing humanity through the eyes of the gods(As per the line from 2nd part of the title of Injustice......Gods Among Us) is a much better execution (when johns, tsujihara, yamada and sarnoff interference).

[@randomname191]

It did show humanity through the eyes of the gods I think. Arishem explained that people are just the energy that celestials need to be born.

[@bemasaberwyn55]

@@randomname191 that makes it sound like humanity is a battery to sustain them. Not a great message to people

[@randomname191]

@@bemasaberwyn55 to the celestials that’s what we are. It’s a cool cosmic high stakes story that really shows the power of the celestials

[@bemasaberwyn55]

@@randomname191 since civil war, I've been checked out of the mcu emotionally. A prevailing feeling of "if the characters don't care(eh alien invasion is just another Tuesday), then why tf should I care"

[@randomname191]

@@bemasaberwyn55 but the characters do care. I don’t understand why you would think that since every movie is about stopping those things from happening.

[@PurpleFilm922]

"I could've just read the cliff notes" is exactly what i would apply to most MCU projects....ecspecially Black Widow, which i thought was completely abysmal. Eternals is going in the right direction. sucks we might end up reverting back to easily absorbed blockbusters that gets forgotten within days. The biggest issues with this film is defintely the pacing, but it's far more scifi rich than most MCU films and the characters are filmed here with far more humanity than we're use to in this universe. It works for me on so many levels that it outweighed the bad. I think it is a good film, confused? sure. Exposition heavy? defintely. But then again.....i'm the type of guy who like lengthy scifi epic with character. I'd like to challenge people on this whole "Characters aren't fleshed out enough". I felt each character was given appropriate amount of attention to serve the story and it's resolution.

[@emmanueldaniel3218]

I feel some of reasons you bring up for it not being a good story about being too many characters, I feel you miss the point that the Eternals come as a unit of 10…the avengers movies have the luxury of solo movies to establish individual characters arc…Eternals is certainly ambitious in expanding the MCU universe in bringing the idea of cosmic beings and Gods into the mix. If there was a movie of the 12 Olympic Gods (Zeus, Hera, Area etc) would people complain there’s too many characters. I feel that this being the first Eternals movie we are introduced to a lot of new characters and concepts, and characters we did not enough to spend screen time with, but the film made clear their individual motivations especially their conflict when it came to choosing sides. Some characters we know in other future films we will get to know more. Kingo made it clear that he may not agree with the others decision and has complete faith in Arsheoms plan…but would not fight against his family, and he is true to his character. I personally enjoyed every character the film gave us… I wished we were able to explore more about the deviants as they were evolving…As time passes I feel this movie will be appreciated for how good it truly is.

[@SauravTiru]

Yes!

[@sentient.studio]

The argument is that there was too many characters with not enough time to tell about them, they could have easily made this film a 2 parter with the first part being a character piece, and the second parter being a by the books mcu movie. But they decided to cram a story about not just 10 characters but the lore of the celestials, and throwing in the random side characters that are set to appear in other movies. They could not accomplish a well written story with the timeframe they had set.

[@sentient.studio]

Also comparing Eternals to Greek Gods is a bad thing because literally no one knew who the eternals were when they were first announced. Everyone already knows the greek gods from popular culture, or at least knows some of them.

[@emmanueldaniel3218]

@@sentient.studio I found the film easy to follow, even with the 10 characters, I understood each characters motivation, and felt as an ensemble each got time to shine, admittedly more than others, but I liked the chemistry of the Eternals. I feel as their story continues more will be revealed about other characters. I personally don’t think it needed to be done into 2 parts, admittedly maybe some scenes cooks have been shorter or edited differently to help the pacing…. The real 2 actors that really got their short hand if the screen time was Kit Harrington, although this was just a teaser for his real marvel character. The second being Bill Skasgaard, as his Deviant character literally gets cut short as he was evolving. The concept of the Celestials was already mentioned briefly in Guardians of the Galaxy 1&2, and we are starting to see that they are fallible, as Arshem deceived the Eternals. I compared them to the Greek Gods, because they have said to have come from Olympus, the way the they influenced humanity, is similar to how the Greek Gods are said to help humanity…the squabbling amongst the gods… One thing I really appreciated about this film, which is similar to Civil War, no one is really a villain, because even the deviants, like Druig says is fighting for its existence and what they believe their purpose is. Like I said with time this films ambition will be appreciated

[@sentient.studio]

@@emmanueldaniel3218 You know im mot gonna argue with some npc that feels marvel can do no wrong

[@racool911]

I absolutely loved the characters and concepts in this movie, but the story and pacing fell flat, especially at the end. I remember Cersei turning the celestial into stone and I was like "That was it?". I wouldn't watch the movie again but I would love to see the Eternals in future movies

[@tiaamdunord7817]

This video was less about Eternals and more about how you love Zack Snyder

[@josh-qj2zu]

One more thing I have to add, it would’ve been really cool to see a first person perspective kind of viewpoint. Like, what if we were in the head of sersi the whole movie and learned about the other quirks and ideas of the eternals later? That would be so engaging for me

[@artiepov512]

Now that! A cool idea!

[@janandreiquebrado3380]

The Gifted series (Thai series) formula could have worked for the Eternals. The series is about highschool students with special gifts. They focused on one character per episode then made episode 8 as where they came together to solve a conflict then in episode 9 they focused back on one character and used the last 2 episode for their revolution against the school director. This made the audience love and understand each character more in this way unlike its movie version where the students had no proper character development

[@jeagerkej3171]

It genuinely surprises me that someone can think Shan Chi is boundary pushing and Black Widow is compelling.

[@callmestorm23]

Just watched the film and I gotta say that this film was amazing. 8/10 movie for sure

[@computerstuff8352]

lmao these low standards. How is this an 8 out of 10?

[@Mr_Cinematic]

Yooo! Like this review? Check out my rant on Eternals!!

[@CallmeCunti]

It’s wasn’t that great in my opinion definitely a 6/10

[@tnl-warrior3218]

Wow that's bad taste

[@joelunderhill126]

Stormbreaker is right. The movie is great. I saw it twice

[@DiscordedHaru]

In my personal opinion Love WandaVision, Loki, Falcon & Winter Soldier, HATED Black Widow, really enjoyed Shang Chi, and ended up hating What IF. This movie I can kind of take it or leave it but I never really found it that offensive...though I can't exactly blame anyone for feeling the way they do. It's not a movie that works for everyone. My biggest gripe is the horrendous editing the first act of the movie contains, since I feel the rest of the film more than makes up for it.

[@aga11ah]

Yeah, black widow was so 🗑

[@sonicdihedgehog1]

What If was Brilliant. What the Heck are you even talking about?

[@FernandoGastelo]

Seeing the actors on interviews there is so much charisma yet on the movie everyone was so robotic, kingo and makkari being the only ones that smiled and felt a being human

[@wrymehexin3885]

I thought the movie was bad, the Score was AMAZING and I can't get it out of my head it's Ramin Djawadi what do you expect and I also did like Sprite.

[@kendrickawesomeness]

Hmm I think I disagree w most of this video but it’s okay. I honestly loved the movie and had a blast with it. I didn’t feel like I needed to relate to the Eternals and I thought they were still interesting people. The humor and dynamics between them I thought was really well done so I still enjoyed the characters.

[@dereknunn2699]

What was your favorite moment in the film? Curious

[@superwatto941]

@@dereknunn2699 Personally my favorite moment was the flashback at the end wbu?

[@kendrickawesomeness]

@@dereknunn2699 I think my fav part would the end fight w them fighting Icarus and all of that

[@dereknunn2699]

@@kendrickawesomeness I didn't enjoy the film as much as you did, but my favorite was all the world building stuff with the celestials and the post-credit scenes. It was 75% dialogue and I didn't care about the stakes. Hard for me to believe the world would end without a single Avenger (Doctor Strange) knowing about it

[@dereknunn2699]

@@superwatto941 All the Celestial stuff cause I'm a comic nerd

[@jeebs621]

Infinity War was marvels magnum opus, and the only reason it worked was because 10 years of films led up to that film. Marvel worked hard to humanize and break down every hero before they made infinity war. From what I’m gathering from this review, Eternals suffered from not having that classic Marvel Studios characterization. 🤔

[@kola213]

NO do not believe this review it is wrong on so many levels. This film has the best characterisations in any marvel film and it fully fleshes them out and makes us care about them. Please watch and form your own opinion

[@elmoryakane]

@@kola213 worst casting of all marvels movies... best characterisations is just a joke: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iaCYZp2set-UaaM

[@magicavocadoproductions]

@@kola213 you tell me not to believe this review yet you tell me stuff that I should believe instead? Hm. (My apologies for being maybe harsh, I just found it quite odd. But if you enjoyed the movie that's good.

[@kola213]

@@elmoryakane you’ve never read an eternals comic in your life stop pretending to care about comic accuracy

[@kola213]

@@magicavocadoproductions no your right but this review straight up lies about things to suit his own points. Like how he says that they don’t bother to make you care about the characters, this isn’t some justice league kinda film it spends the entire film making you care about them. If you didn’t then don’t try an act like it’s a universal thing

[@zackarydecicco3919]

I totally get what you are saying, Griffin. My dad probably agrees with everything you said in this video. As for me, I liked the movie I thought it was a good MCU movie, but frustrating. I can get both sides of it, I can see what you are saying. But I can also see when people call it a MASTERPIECE.

[@sahilsehdev4235]

Theres just too many MCU films one after the other. Shang chi released in september while this came out in november. There just an overload of mcu films every single year, films that hardly take risks and are extremely formulaic. This should have come out next year in the summer. It would have been a nice breather. Its just the same stuff again and again i.e. save the world. There needs to be a breather. Allow films like The Last Duel and Dune to get the recognition it deserves

[@racool911]

Eh, I'd rather get more Marvel content faster, I don't wanna wait a decade to see where the overall story is going lol

[@ajg1616]

It wasn’t bad but it essentially good I’d say 6.5 out of 10

[@ammarkhan6913]

nah it was bad

[@gonhunter3994]

@Oddwolf 799 yes

[@Brenda-xy8eu]

I felt it was lazy how when they needed to explain something they would just jump to a flashback 🤷‍♀️

[@julianxamo7835]

I disagree, in a visual medium showing is almost always better than telling, so the flashbacks are way better in my opinion than just have the characters explain things to each other

[@davidgoodman4996]

Am sorry how do you explain something in the pass

[@lanyardodo]

I think the flashbacks were definitely needed just to keep up the pace of the movie… to fill in some action scenes or drama to those who don’t really care to follow the story particularly closely

[@EcopiuM]

@@julianxamo7835 Except the flashbacks were quite literally TELLING, it was a flashback to 10 minutes of narration.

[@cammte5471]

@@EcopiuM yes, which is better than JUST telling. That’s the point of the person’s comment

[@socialdeviant13]

I liked Sersi's character. She's passive (which could be a CRT analysis on its own). Her power, by design, is defensive. She's not SUPPOSED to be able to affect living beings, so she revels in being in the presence OF living beings, but she's also been abandoned - both by her team members, and the people and cultures she came to love. I think all of them, except Ajak and Ikaris, have compelling characters. And the end split them up. I'm hoping that means each team will get more time as a smaller group.

[@himynameis3664]

This review is 5 months old and I can honestly say I didn't even know that this movie existed

[@gsentinel4821]

Sometimes you have to wonder if the parties that make these films based on a Comic source ever even read a comic book and I'm really talking about the screenwriters. This film was Such an embarrassing tribute to the Legend of Jack Kirby and terribly miscast.

[@rs5352]

Love this channel. But I also loved this movie. I was enthralled the whole time, and each turn of the plot just stepped it up for me. It started as expected, and then just kept getting better. Great acting, great strategy for introducing each character in such a way as to make each one interesting. And I loved the story. Everything made sense, and I cared about what happened. Plus the theme - is humanity worth saving? - kept me thinking throughout the journey. Loved it all. Sorry some people didn’t.

[@serendipity4346]

That's another thing i love about this movie, the opinions are soooo diverse. [I liked it, for me, it was a 7 of 10]

[@metalliholic]

I felt exactly the same. Even though it was long. I didn’t want it to end. I loved all the characters and felt for all of them. It’s crazy how diverse the reviews are, but I get it. I love slow brewing stories.

[@manbreezy5324]

I agree the movie amazing

[@carokann4244]

It felt very opposite for me. It felt like they're trying to squeeze in a story that has no impact on the whole present avengers universe, as if just to tell its universe is "rich" and "diverse" in its history. The risks in this movie were all pointless and I couldn't care less, since we already know how the future of this universe looks like. Story was pointless and felt boring, full of plot holes and plot conveniences, pacing was terrible and confusing. In conclusion, not good enough. 6/10

[@metalliholic]

@@carokann4244 wouldn’t that be true for any Mcu movie going forward? What’s the point anymore.

[@daweithisisdavidinmandarin6121]

Thank you for your video essay. I think it comes to the target audience. This is a movie that does very well with kids and with people that did not have any expectations. The movie provides snipets that people digest easily and can have fun with. For example there are people that complain about the 4 hour Justice League. For me, it is my favorite Comics-based movie and I am so glad that it was done. In the case of Eternals, I do not find any of the philosophical concepts that other see. I do not find it a dense movie, complex o even remotely mythological. My problem with Eternals is that it lacks focus and therefore it wastes potential. I think this movie could have been broken down into 3. One movie about their family relationship. A second movie about the deviants evolving. A third movie about the celestials purpose. Instead we got 2 deaths and 1 human.

[@lurkzie]

They actually do explain how they were able to stop the emergence without Kingo being around

[@BriantheWolverine]

They did my boy Ikarus dirty.

[@sagarvishe3463]

Exactly

[@snowforest1998]

I'll say it now and I'll say it again, it should have been a tv series, it was way too rushed not because they couldn't tell a good story but because their was way too many things they could have done which they didn't have the time to further explore and extrapolate on

[@jervin8132]

I find it interesting that u used the Snyder movies as a good example of what eternals tried to do. I felt that eternals problems really reminded me of what I didn’t like from the Snyder movies. The “ambitious doesn’t mean it’s good” aspect of the film is exactly my problem with bvs. I think the Snyder cut was a good version of eternals tho cuz at least 3 of the characters had introductions beforehand (however good or bad they may have been)

[@norrad9978]

I had a feeling this was gonna be a okay movie it looked like a comic hard to pull off personally they should’ve went with the Inhumans and this should’ve been a show Black Bolt and the others are far more interesting characters

[@alexleroy9464]

The Eternals is not a bad movie, it’s actually a good movie, not amazing but good. I did think it was a bit too ambitious, most characters are pretty good and their relationships too, the deviants are not that interesting. But This movie had one the most visually pleasing scenes in the MCU. The action was pretty cool and the twists are logical and surprising. This movie was worth the watch. 7,6/10

[@AlexanderTh3First]

I hope none of the people you know actually take your advice when it comes to films 😂

[@alexleroy9464]

@@SPDRM well I didn’t think the story was bad, I just think they could have went deeper in some ideas that felt only introduced in this movie.

[@wxwxeric9857]

I think its more like Age of Ultron , too many things to shove inside one movie ----- and the Deviants' role just like Hulk in Age of Ultron . But at the end , the movie actually not that bad , its story telling even better than Age of Ultron .

[@alexleroy9464]

@@wxwxeric9857 totally agree 💯

[@alexleroy9464]

@@AlexanderTh3First Well… what did you think bout the movie then ?🍿

[@kayladominique4789]

I watched this movie and it was absolutely amazing.

[@surreal9239]

haha so true fellow human being with flesh and skin who breathes!!

[@procopio_sagalpot1242]

Druig and makkari shows the "love for humanity" more than Seri. Its such a shame they didnt have much screen time.