Why Five Words Destroyed Tanzania

[@GeorgeDoughty-m8e]

Schools should teach students about wealth creation and why without it disaster must follow.

[@fridaybuchholz4517]

Where's your comment section. Nobody can see anything. Maybe because you are right

[@acem82]

Those schools are State schools. They are built after the Prussian system to make good cogs for the State/war machine (look it up). There is an Iron Law that the State only ever seeks to protect or increase its power. Learning properly about wealth creation (economics) as well as things like critical thinking will teach students that the State is utterly counterproductive to wealth and freedom. That's why these aren't taught in State schools. It's a feature, not a bug. -An Economist

[@johnwillimott8122]

B I N G O ! 🤬

[@weaksause6878]

Thank goodness we outsourced all the manufacturing in this nation

[@303machine]

​@@acem82 If "state" (we talk about it, like it is some entity) is utterly counterproductive to wealth and freedom, than there is no need for state. By the way, I am all for small communities, because sooner or later all civilisations collapse. Civilisation is not natural environment for human beings, and humans beings, creators behind civilisations can't create sustainable civilisation. By "state" you mean politicians. State is not entity, it is concept. Politicians as parasites and governors, "rule" over their compatriots and are servants to them, in ideal situation. But people are not perfect and so called democracy is the worst civilisational system in the world. It is not the "state" utterly counterproductive, but politicians. If ("democratic") politicians knew there would be consequences for their treachery, corruption, they would think twice before screwing own nation. Kings dependend on their people, peasants, because they knew their head is at stake. Today's politicians in "democracy" are puppets and work for interests of big corporations and masters from shadows against own people, because they are not affraid of consequences and rage of people.

[@CarlSteyn]

The latest casuality in Sub-Saharan Africa is South Africa where a Government based on socialist principles and rampant greed is causing the country to be relegated to a failed state.

[@user-vm5ud4xw6n]

Kind of like America!

[@tananari47]

@@user-vm5ud4xw6n We're not there, yet. But Signs Point to Shit.

[@joyholtzhausen8976]

In less than 30 years South Africas ANC led government corruption and ineptitude has reduced a once thriving country with world class infrastructure to a disintegrated poverty stricken mess

[@fmagege]

Take your head out of your ass before speaking. How is Tanzania a failed state?

[@shauncameron8390]

@@fmagege Tanzania may not be a failed state, but socialism did plenty to make it one.

[@JamesThomas-gg6il]

Beautifully said, and any time one can quote the great Thomas Sowell is a great day.

[@fmagege]

You used the word "great" and Thomas Sowell in the same sentence 🤣

[@littlecatfeet9064]

Wow, I was a child and lived in Tanzania in the 1970s. Beautiful country, but so many people had diseases brought about by malnutrition and where I lived it wasn’t safe to walk around day or night. Ironically Julius Nyerere was considered a pan-African hero by people in neighbouring countries with much better economies.

[@mlech6634]

Indeed, thanks to propaganda and other misinformation. Just like Che Guevara is hero to so many of the ignorant & misinformed.

[@judithkirenga9977]

Living in Tanzania all of my life and never been robbed, I can walk whenever I want or go wherever I want at any time without any fear

[@citizenoftheearth6]

I help a school in tanzania and I've lived there ,,too. It's politically one of the most stable countries in Africa, they have free health care for all children (and capitalist super-rich US doesnt!), the crime is minimal, people are poor but happy, and they help each other . Just compare it with a capitalist, rich Kenya next door, with huge crime disparity problems, and all this discourse about "bad,bad socialism" falls apart.

[@judithkirenga9977]

@@citizenoftheearth6 very true

[@littlecatfeet9064]

@@citizenoftheearth6 well, it wasn’t great in the mid-70s but I’m glad there is still free healthcare and that it’s better. It’s an absolutely beautiful country and the villages in the countryside were much safer than Dar es Salaam, but I always saw people with elaphantiasis, goitre, rickets, beri-beri. I later lived in Malawi and though it was desperately poor it was safe everywhere and people did not suffer as much with malnutrition related diseases.

[@skreelthebarbarian]

"BUT THAT WASNT REAL COMMUNISM" someone teach these people the purpose of goalposts because they keep digging the things up and relocating them

[@augustsunflower771]

It wasn’t, it was worse ! He tampered the whole constitution with Marxist principles

[@mlech6634]

Look closer, friend. They have them on small wheels.

[@GameplayTubeYT]

Bruh they Govern by Authoritarian 😂 you see they Crackdown to those who oppose them!

[@JacobNeff-oq5km]

The funny part is that people who say that are ironically correct. It hasn't been tried because it can't be tried. Communism is like a square circle; fundamentally impossible with any "attempt" necessarily being something else.

[@ieronymos9265]

@skreelthebarbarian, like you capitalist? “Oh, it’s only crony capitalism, not REAL capitalism.”

[@mattfoltz7752]

"Socialism's great until you run out of other people's money". Maggie Thatcher

[@billrosenstein]

What is money?

[@silverjohn6037]

​@@billrosenstein Money is a token of wealth who's value is controlled by institutions that benefit by decreasing it's value over time. For example they offer $100 dollar bonds at two percent interest. If inflation is flat they actually lose money because of the interest. If inflation is 2 per cent each year, they break even. But if inflation is 12 percent per year they actually make money because they can pay it back with less valuable currency. Since governments control the supply of money they can control what the rate of inflation is so it's in their interest to borrow money then make sure that inflation is higher than their promised interest rate for the loan. This is good for the government but bad for anyone trying to save money for a major purchase like the down payment on a house or for their retirement.

[@davidkomakech9769]

"Banksterism is great because you never run out of other people's money"

[@redtobertshateshandles]

It's proof of contribution to society. Marx was a middle class grifter. He had no idea.

[@keithjurena9319]

​@@billrosenstein Money is an abstraction of the ability to reduce scarcity on a finite planet.

[@GlidingZephyr]

One word: Angola. Why is it that so many African leaders fail to take the political history of their own continent into account? I know it's a really big place, and I know that any tangible differences are usually more along ethnic or tribal lines more than political ones. But come on. So many promising nations in Africa have dissolved or imploded for no good reason because their leadership made the worst possible decisions.

[@CharlesCurran-m9p]

It’s because these leaders really want to be dictators and the romantic notions of socialism make it easier to fool the citizens.

[@user-vm5ud4xw6n]

Those who forget history (and it’s mistakes) are doomed to repeat it. George Santayana The actual quote is Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it! Which is why the destruction of so many statues, artifacts, books , etc is dangerous. You cannot erase the past and by removing/destroying it removes and destroys anything with which to show our children and teach them Never Again! Whether it is the Holocaust, slavery of any kind, war memorials, whatever the reason, STOP DESTROYING HISTORY!!

[@shauncameron8390]

@@CharlesCurran-m9p Pretty much.

[@Anti-CornLawLeague]

Julius Nyerere and Kwame Nkrumah show that extensive private sector experience should be required before a person is allowed anywhere near political power.

[@pinchebruha405]

Maybe being poor having a family of your own and working your way up should also be considered

[@shauncameron8390]

Nkrumah set a bad precedent for post-colonial African leadership.

[@shauncameron8390]

@@pinchebruha405 Venezuela had that with Hugo Chavez.

[@1wun1]

​@@shauncameron8390 Zaire/DRC fared worst than all while being capitalist.

[@shauncameron8390]

@@1wun1 Zaire wasn't capitalist under Mobutu. He was inspired by and got his model from Mao.

[@Tony-mw-533]

Tanzanian are my neighbors( I am from Malawi by the way). I only knew some of the points you made. Great presentation as always

[@themole4369]

Said he would prevent the accumulation of wealth and he prevented the accumulation of wealth. Good to see some honest politicians for a change.

[@28pbtkh23]

😂😂😂

[@shauncameron8390]

I'll give him that. Too bad he left the country impoverished in the process.

[@l33tninja1]

Gotta love how many in our western governments want to repeat this process on our lands.

[@melaniesmith1313]

This should be shown in all schools and colleges. Too many marxist teachers not allowing reality to be shiwn.

[@MrKirby2367]

Trouble is the Marxist teachers love the democratic life. Funny old world.

[@shauncameron8390]

@@MrKirby2367 Those Marxist teachers would have got jailed in the very Marxist utopia they advocate.

[@Colinpark]

Met a young Tanzanian solider at the Officer Training School in Chilliwack back in the mid 80's, nice chap, was amazed to see snow for the first time in his life.

[@Dilbert-o5k]

He should have gone to look at Kilimanjaro, there is snow on the summit visible for miles in clear weather.

[@eamonnmckeown6770]

Came for the farmers? Holland. The Bundy family. Trofim Lysenko. Pattern recognition.

[@Diogenes425]

Envy & resentment got an Angel cast out of heaven. Envy and resentment cause poverty.

[@nnamdimusic1]

Are you a satanist? Who envied Hêylêl?

[@oddbird5825]

Ahh, yes. It’s your fault your poor. Feels weird saying that though. After all, it’s a very Prideful thing to say and the sin of Pride is represented by whom again? That angel mentioned earlier.

[@BWolf00]

Interesting video with a lot in a small time frame. I get the impression that this will never be pushed by the YT algorithm.

[@chucklesthered2338]

You can bet your house on it.

[@allenmaa7064]

In the mid eighties Julius Nyerere said another five words: “Let’s face it, I failed.” He meant that his project of African Socialism had failed. He had the dignity and patriotism to step down and allow for multi-party elections and a turn towards capitalism. He did not fail completely because he created a sense of national unity and a strong state. The future is very bright for Tanzania today because of that u-turn.

[@frederickmartin6998]

Sounds like Cambodia under Pol Pot's Khmer Rouge - minus the killing fields.

[@r.guerreiro140]

Thanks for this historic pearl Another asset on the fight against totalitarianism

[@beeamerica5024]

Exactly what they're trying to do to us

[@augustsunflower771]

Well put. As Tanzanian I love Nyerere , he was many things, but not an economist. His economic reforms were some of the most outrageous but I’m glad he was man enough to step down after the aftermath of what he started became evident. For that, I respect the man.

[@davidvonallmen19]

I spent two weeks in Tanzania in 2017 and the people there were delightful. Everyone I met seemed to be friendly and good-natured.

[@citizenoftheearth6]

exactly. This guy is perpetuating the old trope of "socialism bad, capitalism good", while we are witnessing all the consequences of bad capitalism.

[@davidvonallmen19]

@@citizenoftheearth6 I wasn't making a comment on socialism and capitalism, I was just sharing my experience. These are good people and I wish the best for them.

[@Dilbert-o5k]

​@@citizenoftheearth6except he is correct. I spent time there decades ago and the difference between socialist Tanzania and capitalist Kenya to the north was obvious , even to retarded pseudo socialists.

[@allananderson949]

​@@citizenoftheearth6Socialism is bad. Didn't you watch the video?why would you think having no private property rights won't lead to starvation?

[@modelka222]

@@davidvonallmen19 i am from Tanzania and all i can say is that the president mentioned in the video was extremely intelligent but the call for socialism was a miscalculation. We have always been a peaceful county, maybe the only country in africa that had never being involved in internal conflicts plus we are one of the most popular destinations for tourist, we have lots of minerals including gas, urenium, tanzanite(only found in tanzania), gold and dimond. If it wasnt for socialism we would have been one of the richest in the continent or maybe the world. He himself admitted to his mistakes and push the country towards capitalism later on. We are doing okay now but we missed the opportunity to be up there with the big boys. Capitalism is not bad greed is

[@nadogrl]

Always appreciate your wisdom, Sir!❤

[@CharlesCurran-m9p]

As Milton Freeman said: For socialism to work you need people to be saints and most people aren’t saints.

[@MsAgent067]

Foreign aid has also stopped Latin American countries from reaching their potentials as well.

[@jackdeniston59]

the biggest damage from colonialism was caused by leaving.

[@robertmccabe8632]

Development by more knowledgeable people; when greed is controlled, will result in prosperity. The key is actively controlling the greed.

[@UtubeH8tr]

Boom right there. Controlled greed.

[@garryrichardson4572]

The free market works better in Christian countries. Mutual respect goes a long way. Greed is not the only thing that keeps the free market moving . The west has shifted from its earlier Christian influence but is still running on the fumes of previous generations. I have read of the different revivals in Europe that restored and revitalised, even South Korea went through something in the 80s I think.

[@ChuckChen-bi4wc]

😂Stop the trade war, plz believe in free market

[@elduquecaradura1468]

@@robertmccabe8632 the key is use greed in a good mean Most progresses in history had a base on greed or competence, use them well and you're going places, kid

[@ckoritko]

Oh, that’s right I do need to work on securing more seeds for…… reasons.

[@raphaelshan4905]

I'm a Tanzanian 🇹🇿 I'm confirm this is, it is true what you say . One guy has introduced bad policy and it has cost all of of us since then. Unfortunately the party which had introduced all that trouble still in power 😢

[@davidanselmo4041]

Wewe ni mjinga sana 😮 yaani huna akili

[@bmacaulay18]

Hard to believe a bunch of people from the city had zero idea how to farm. Nice work. 😂🤣😂🤣😂

[@Fallout777]

Lessons that people never learn.

[@Tronathon242]

I've seen this movie enough times that I could call the outcome the moment these policies were mentioned.

[@deborahgrantham7387]

Productivity isn’t going to happen when you work to food on the table of government officials.

[@mudnducs]

Thank you countryman Freitas. Americas founder got it right.

[@darrennew8211]

I visited Kenya and Tanzania 20+ years ago, and Tanzania was doing much better than anyone around them.

[@getreal6595]

I don't think so ! Kenya was and is still better off Industrially

[@1wun1]

​@@getreal6595 Kenya has both more riches and more misery, Tanzania has more of the middle ground.

[@kushkingla7385]

Just remember this on QVC next tanzanite smack down. FYI, tanzanite can only be found in Tanzania

[@Motoguzzi2231]

"But this time it will work, we just need to pursue these failed policies harder"

[@ClayFalcon135]

Honestly, kudos to the socialist leaders of the world for being able to STILL get people to believe it's the solution. You can't call them stupid. Just dishonest, greedy, warpigs.

[@iambob6590]

My guess about the 5 words was sort of correct. My guess for the 5 words was "Socialism is a good thing". Sigh, another Nations name to add to the unfortunately still growing list of Nations destroyed by the Cult of Socialism.

[@atlanteum]

I thought he was going to talk about the U.S. and the five words were, "I voted for Joe Biden."

[@seanturner1197]

Other African countries trying to emulate Botswana's system of governance and economic stability. Difficulty setting: European Extreme.

[@pinchebruha405]

How did they start off on the right foot?

[@sharonleis1365]

Cambodia. Same. 😢

[@samuelmuthui4699]

Tanzania fought a war with Uganda... Worse was nationalisation of private property.

[@mcc5901]

You’re bang on the money. Socialism even held India back after independence until the 1990s and still does to a certain extent today. Huge bureaucracy which stifles innovation and business. As for colonialism in Africa the Europeans did not leave these countries in ruins. They built infrastructure and introduced political systems of governance as well as introduced medicines and technology that the rest of the world possessed but never made it south of the Sahara. Contrast that to the utter devastation wreaked twice upon Europe in two world wars and each time the continent rose from the ashes. If the colonialism argument is supposed to be a good explanation for African poverty today, then Europe , by the same measure, should be destitute today and by a far greater degree.

[@mlech6634]

Sadly, that may be Europe's future as it slowly commits demographic /cultural suicide. Probably the greatest genocidal crime of human history. Our masters are actively forcing this replacement upon us in the West. We can still overcome and reverse it, if we have the guts, if we unite and have an iron will of self preservation. If we let ourselves fall, Europe and eventually America will decay in a great darkness. The darkness brought by the dismantling of our millennia of achievement by the backward m*hammedan hordes. It is the perfect perversion of religion that summons the most barbaric elements of human nature. Inherently regressive, and like a cancer upon the earth. Like Marxism, show me where the dominance of the m*hammedan religion has ever brought anyone prosperity, enlightenment or happiness.

[@Dilbert-o5k]

I spent some time there, decades ago. You could see the difference between the socialist tanzania, with its shortages of everything , and the more capitalist kenya to the north which didnt have shortages , and people seemed to have a better life. It was very evident the difference in economic model.

[@asserimsechu7872]

Relay? Why are there still very poor people in USA? Why is your economy owned by just 1% of your population? and isn't China having a greater economy than Europe?

[@shauncameron8390]

@@asserimsechu7872 Yet the US's poverty rate is 11.5%. And its 1% account for 45.8% of all taxes paid.

[@asserimsechu7872]

Well time always tells, let's see how you guys handle the MAGA first then we will talk about Nyerere.

[@iamdunat0s795]

Wow! It's like he literally took Stalin's dekulakization program and tried to repeat it. Surprise, surprise, he got the same results. How did he not learn THIS at the University of Edinburgh?

[@ReveloProject]

Love the content. Just made a video on this same subject.

[@jeandelenfant]

That is a page from Mao’s book

[@pesterburr1]

Death is true equity and anything else is a variable of more or less

[@atherae4600]

This totally downplays Nyerere as one of Africa’s greatest and most respected leaders. Also, a major part of why Tanzania were poor is because they had been colonised for the British, and only grew cash crops (e.g. sisal). There was no industrialisation and no economic development during the colonial era. When the British eventually left, although they did a bit of work to help off boarding, they left behind a country that relied on the exports of a single crop - and raw material - without anything else for their economy to function off of. This condemned them to poverty, even before Nyerere. Nyerere implementing African socialism wasn’t entirely a failure - he majorly improved the lives of millions with his educational reforms and concept of ‘Ujamaa.’ African socialism failed as a result of human greed - which Nyerere did not partake in. Unlike other leaders at the time , like Sese Seko in the Congo, he banned receiving more than one salary and lived in equality with the civilians. Thanks to Nyerere, 97% of Tanzanian children received access to primary education. Adult illiteracy decreased from 80% (1961) to 20% (1981). This rate of change is practically unheard of! Furthermore, I believe this depiction of Tanzania and African socialism is an extension of the American fear of communism and all things vaguely related to such. Such a negative click bait cover like “why African countries stay poor” - then absurdly followed with an *incorrect* portrayal of events - is a testament to the unfortunate ingrained oblivion of America and the West of all things outside of their own country. Whether a failure of the US education system, or a failure to care, it is evident that you’ve retold this as an American story from an American perspective, influenced by American beliefs.

[@pamelahall7614]

I missed the 5 words ??

[@mikeyh0]

Remove the motivation and reward of hard work and you get apathy and little effort. To the actual point of self-destruction and starvation. People are amazing - they can be lead into lives of abject poverty and never even fight back.

[@belstar1128]

almost every country that was founded between 1945 and 1990 made this mistake. i wonder what would have happened if they were independent before 1940 or even better before 1900 or after 1990. at least some of them have realised their mistake but it will take a long time to undo the damage

[@knine8154]

These are the results many Americans want

[@EliSkylander]

No, these are the processes they want. The results are part of the package with them, but proponents try to hide that up. And some people want to be fooled. It's a tragedy either way.

[@cherylwade264]

It's chaos when the Dictators are in charge ,in any country. The betterment of the society is not the goal.

[@carmelopappalardo8477]

But we'll get it right the next time.

[@nonyadamnbusiness9887]

People still haven't learned.

[@Darrell1019]

What did Maggie say?

[@dmw7320]

Coming to America soon!

[@dbiedler]

Thank you.

[@heatchills4093]

He doesn't explain how that happened, though. You'd think that recruiting more workers to the farming industry should actually increase food production.

[@tonyohalloran8817]

Is that really the reason or is that the "non offensive" reason?

[@kradius2169]

... Wasn't it Magufuli's COVID test, goat & papaya ridicule that temporarily got them in trouble, until his heart attack?

[@juniormichael354]

Magufuli established SGR railroad construction from Dar es salaam to DRC Congo, built tarmac road Tanzania is now in top 10 of the countries in Africa with good roads across the country. Established free secondary school, fought corruption Tanzania now is amongst the least corrupt countries in Africa now when he started fighting for re negotiations of mining contract with western companies so that the country benefits off of it's minerals he suddenly died. The new president she has not touched the minerals issues since taking over why 😅

[@kradius2169]

@@juniormichael354 ... If you hadn't already, perhaps have a look at Gary Null's "A Second Opinion" and/or Brent Leung's "House of Numbers"

[@stephaniejooste3879]

Africa's slippery slide. South Africa is already slipping.

[@henryfhenline6316]

Cambodia comes to mind. (Anybody have a link to the stop motion video about Cambodia?)

[@zeake13]

No insintive for prosperity. See anything Maggette Wade has done. She is essentially the Queen of Africa. She is likely the only hope.

[@anthonyburke5656]

You mean besides South Africa?

[@donlebo6824]

The five words "I thought communism would work".

[@aleabdalla77]

There is more to this

[@GP-fc2xx]

Very interesting

[@mustang607]

Prosperity is actually good. And freely trading to obtain it is even better.

[@raymondmordi7937]

Ujamaa helped destroyed African tribalism though - a reason Tanzania is stable politically

[@timothyjones5959]

Excellent.

[@adrianqx]

Socialists furiously typing their response on their Macbooks as they sip lattes in a Starbucks

[@JimKalpa-qd9zr]

The other famous words are: "they didn't do it right".

[@sawhite27]

Not surprised.

[@buckgulick3968]

I really wish I could say I was shocked.

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

Botswana is a nice place.

[@tradeprosper5002]

They were one of the few African countries to get their population growth under control. It turns out that not doubling your population every 20 some years is a huge plus.

[@Smarterthanyou-mthrfkr]

@@KingdomofZarius never been, is it good?

[@thunberbolttwo3953]

Prevent the acumulation of wealth. That gives anyone a reason to not work hard.

[@LeighAnderson-mr]

Run for president.

[@elizabethl6187]

That's the socialism we know and hate.

[@Magneticlaw]

Humans never learn......

[@rainynight02]

*PREVENT THE ACCUMULATION OF WEALTH?!* So when do we just point and say "these people just want to make others suffer."

[@gabbyhayes4561]

Just another feather in the hat of socialism. Someone NEEDS to MAKE AOC and her partners in crime watch this video. Better yet send over there for a long vacation. Go Brandon!!🇺🇸😎

[@pebblepod30]

Aren't you making the same ideological mistake here that the President of Tanzania did? He said "anything that fits this economic ideology always good, no discernment required". You say the exact opposite very rigid ideological statement without checking what has worked or makes sense first. When actually the HISTORICAL FACTS are that Natonalized banks have done EXTREMELY well for the publiic interest, before being sold for corrupt reasons (Australia & NZ comes to mind, NZ got theirs bank). But nationaizing small business like agriculture does not work well to the best of my current knowledge. Also Nationalized military, post offices, Police Force, schools etc all have done very well being nationalized (which isnt sociaism per se, but how you are using the term**). Just not small business, like agricultire. Just not when nothing is allowed to compete with the Nationaized thing, and it is not voted for. As far as i know, Marx did not advocate for nationalizing small busines (not sure on that).

[@pebblepod30]

**original defintion of socialism (still used today): democracy in economic matters. "The democratic govt nationalizing stuff" is one solution to that, arguably, but sometimes a bad one depending on the field, as history shows.

[@gorkyd7912]

@@pebblepod30 Why should anyone care about your definition? The definition of socialism is determined by the people who actually implemented it, not some whacko on the internet comments. The definition of a bulldozer is not your kindergarten-level drawing either.

[@windrunner6145]

Actually no, that is not how definitions work or are determined at all

[@pebblepod30]

@@gorkyd7912 No it isn't my definition, the definition of words that change definition - how to determine them? Well first know what the original definition means, then what its adherents mean today (often the same thing), and then how the definition changed as politicans hijacked it for their own power. And this is seperate to political groupings - i say this, yet I consider a lot of what the average self identifying loud "socialist" seem to believe in, in culture war , to be impractical and crazy (e.g. racial guilt, grievances & power emphasis). Yet I am just pointing out that socialism originally means "democracy in economic power". I AM NOT SAYING all solutions for that worked either.

[@pebblepod30]

Natonalized banks have done EXTREMELY well for the publiic interest, before being sold for corrupt reasons (Australia & NZ comes to mind, NZ got theirs bank). But nationaizing small business like agriculture does not work well to the best of my current knowledge.

[@_nobodyxi]

This is so misleading its sickening And naturally people will believe it because nuamce is a foreign concept

[@cdrtej]

Special mustache too

[@erniebuchinski3614]

And collectivisation worked so "well" in the USSR, creating a famine in the early 1930s in which millions died. But as any good socialist will tell you, "We're going to do it right next time!" Whatever you say . . .

[@moopius]

It is a tricky subject because rampant wealth accumulation leads to the power to control Government and the legal system and big corporations eventually squeezing small players out of the game by fair means or foul. This leads to less than 1% holding 99% of the wealth and the rest struggling to get a home and food on the table. But even this grizzly scenario is better than communism.

[@citizenoftheearth6]

Tanzanians didn't do communism (nobody did) , but socialism, which in its milder forms is pretty good for the people.

[@Dilbert-o5k]

​@@citizenoftheearth6socialism is just communism with training wheels on. It still has to be enforced on people who don't want it by people who rarely know what they are doing, but want to be the aristocracy anyway. Socialism never worked in the past and will never work in the future. It causes suffering wherever it is tried. You either don't understand economics or you are one of the power mad aristocrat Wannabees if you support socialism. Socialism may sound good in theory, but it is the reality where it always fails. One big fundamental failure of socialism is that it fails to take into account the deep seated desire of most people to want to better themselves, to improve their lot. Even feeding yourself is part of that desire, it really is that fundamental to our psyche. Even thieves are pandering to that desire to improve their lot (not condoning thievery). No one wants to do a load of work to improve the lot of themselves or their families/communities, just to have the fruits of that hard labour confiscated and arbitrarily given to other groups who haven't worked as hard or at all, by the neo aristocrats favouritism. Capitalism needs its checks and balances , but how much of the stuff that you own (shouldn't own anything if you are truly socialist) comes from socialist countries? How is your russian car or north Korean TV set or phone? Oh and china is economically capitalist , and socially socialist/communist, so no prizes for any consumer goods bought from them😊

[@talesferreiralimadossantos8806]

​@@citizenoftheearth6 Dude, didn't agriculture nearly collapse because people who had no experience of planting were forced into the farms? Or you mean to say everyone liked being thrown in the rural areas and forcefully being farmers?

[@sciencefliestothemoon2305]

Ujamaa was a clear failure, but the country was bankrupted by its war with Uganda, after Idi Amin invaded and the world as usual gave a crap and the Tansanian army defeated the Ugandan, occupied the country and ousted Amin. Then Tansania was adminished for doing that. After that minor event the IMF gratiously granted loans, which really helped to privatize the education and health sector. I recommend reading at least the Wikipedia page first.

[@liamrmorgans921]

So Julius didn’t implement socialist policies that lead to the things listed in the video? When did the war with idi amin happen?

[@georgegravette1132]

Because if it's Wikipedia, it must be true.

[@sciencefliestothemoon2305]

@@georgegravette1132 Not really, but it is at least a basic for many details and reasonably well referenced, which you would recognise instead of snide comment, if you actually would have to deal with referencing and information.

[@liamrmorgans921]

@@sciencefliestothemoon2305 ?

[@sciencefliestothemoon2305]

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[@modelka222]

i am from Tanzania and all i can say is that the president mentioned in the video was extremely intelligent but the call for socialism was a miscalculation. We have always been a peaceful county, maybe the only country in africa that had never being involved in internal conflicts plus we are one of the most popular destinations for tourist, we have lots of minerals including gas, urenium, tanzanite(only found in tanzania), gold and dimond. If it wasnt for socialism we would have been one of the richest in the continent or maybe the world. He himself admitted to his mistakes and push the country towards capitalism later on. We are doing okay now but we missed the opportunity to be up there with the big boys. Capitalism is not bad greed is

[@destrygriffith3972]

Well at least now we know what your basic religious ideology is (not that it makes me dislike you or believe all your analyses are incorrect, of course - your exposé of the basic tactics Hamas vis a vis provoking Israeli overreaction was very enlightening).

[@mustang607]

So in order for a country to succeed it needs to have a stable government. One that's not gone insane.

[@corrupt1user]

Imagine if the Earth was invaded by aliens, who cured most of our diseases and brought advanced technology, but they kept the lion's share of wealth for themselves and at best saw humans as primitive beasts that needed their superior guidance. Seeing this, we revolt... but we have no idea how to use the technology, and so we collapse into chaos. That's basically Africa in a nutshell.

[@BABAthaYAGA-kx9fu]

I think you just explained colonialism way way way better than teachers ij schools do. 🍻🍻🍻

[@28pbtkh23]

This is a false analogy. In the British Empire there was a lot of migration of various peoples who moved to seek a better life. Many of these migrants were poor and became labourers. But some of these people were entrepreneurs. For example, in Singapore, Raffles Hotel was set up by some migrants from the Middle East. These were the Sarkies brothers, ethnically Armenian and born in Iran. This type of thing happened all over the Empire. Indian merchants set up in many African countries such as Kenya, Uganda, South Africa and so on.

[@Alex_FRD]

"Hey, let's try communism again." "It will work this time."

[@cliff5752]

Kinda sounds like what’s happening here

[@genewilliams617]

Sounds vaugly familiar!!!!!!

[@jameswoodard4304]

I guess they didn't teach about Mao in Edinburgh.

[@richhauxwell7848]

Coming to The Country you love unless "We the Real People" fix this mess

[@markgarrett3647]

As a multi-millionaire politician from Vermont once said: FEEL THE BERN

[@victoriabokanvsky2674]

In Cuba, this was called “collectivo.” The difference is it was started before the agents introduced Castro. These collectives of farm lands started in 56-57. Moreover, the poor farmers were both white and black but more white. Race was never the issue as media sites like to push in the tiny psyches’. A lot of what we are seeing in the USA is a more sophisticated version of the step by step events that occurred in Cuba and in the rest of Latin America. Why? Because Latin American nations have been ardent Christians and the center temple/monastery/basilica/little cathedral in every town. Unbeknownst to Americans, the USA was Catholic Christian because of Spain and France. Leninism not Marxism would own and destroy life and inspire fear through live execution and torture. Today we see the exact same tactics with extreme Muslims however there is a problem with a religious book that pushes death even unto its own adherents because they are not for revolution and death unto the hated group of the week. Communism what Americans know as the nicer word as socialism really means tyranny deceit obliterate life extreme hate injustice and ownership by the placed leader of whatever government. We are there and there are collectives in the USA except they have a nice business name

[@HomelessWhiteMaleStartingOvera]

And yet most of you support and defend Israel. Frankfurt School. Understand who is doing this to us and what is their endgame.