Why I Keep My Mouth Shut About The Street Triple...

[@spitescorner]

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[@cramerfan04]

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[@romie6466]

If you could choose only one bike between the CBR 600 F4 and the triumph, which would it be?

[@kenbowlus2995]

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[@LorandBL]

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[@spitescorner]

@romie6466 I'd take my F4i all day.

[@Damiv]

I’ve never understood this mindset that a good bike is a boring bike. It seems insane to me. I like bikes that are reliable, do exactly what I tell them to, and are smooth and sleek.

[@FlatoutF82]

sounds like you need yourself a MT09 SP or Duke 890 R :)

[@Damiv]

@@FlatoutF82 I have a BMW F850GS at the moment.

[@lakaiskates8064]

@@FlatoutF82 Both of those bikes are hot garbage compared to a Street Triple RS in both looks and performance imo

[@FlatoutF82]

@@lakaiskates8064 you tripping ? if raw performance the duke 890r will destroy them on a track . looks is to each their own .

[@lakaiskates8064]

@@FlatoutF82 Destroy? Not a chance lol 😂 If anything the Duke is a better street bike but on track the Street Triple RS is a straight up weapon.

[@ziqaustin]

When I watch these types of reviews saying the bike is too perfect, power is too linear etc all I hear in translation is “any bike that doesn’t make me feel like I might die is boring”.

[@flip_moto]

not in spite's case - it's too spicy for his skills - probably never gets the tires up to temp.

[@michaelcoffey5447]

@@flip_motoexactly not a bland bike just a bland rider

[@Maxim0W0lf]

Having once owned one as my only transport for 2 years....they get boring, I'm sure most bikes would in fairness but repetitive amazing performance has its limits (either the standard moves higher).

[@ChrisScales17]

​@@Maxim0W0lfwell considering these are one of the best canyon carvers you can buy off a show room floor explains why it was boring to commute with. I have an engine swapped Crx on wide tires that is manual everything. It's an absolute blast to drive when I want to. But it's a terrible daily and I wouldn't dream of commuting it to work daily. It would be boring and terrible

[@impaledface7694]

All it means is he has ridden something more suited to his riding before, and this isn't it. Some bikes are fun just commuting. Others need to be pushed in real twisties. Some are awesome 8+hours into a tour on a new road.

[@loztagain8278]

Hi Spite, I suspect you already knew this, but here in England, roads generally have lots of corners and aren't very straight. Also, you need the handling to avoid all the potholes. I.e. It's not built for the USA. Your's sincerely, An Englishman

[@casterofchaos]

My thoughts exactly 😂 I'd be bored out of my mind as well riding their version of "twisties"

[@chrispekel5709]

@@casterofchaos Anywhere in the Rocky mountains or west of it has fantastic roads

[@casterofchaos]

@chrispekel5709 haha granted, I was being a little facetious 😅 but he doesn't ever really ride anywhere I'd consider twisty to be fair...

[@loztagain8278]

@@chrispekel5709 yes, but do you have our incredible potholes?

[@fizzyridertoo]

@@loztagain8278 Plenty of potholes. The road outside my house has been dug up for the past 3 weeks while they completely resurface it, it having gone way beyond a joke. When I'm in Dallas I wish I was on my Tiger 1200 rather than in my GTI because the suspension tries it's best to destroy my car. As for twisties, they are here but not really close and the good ones are full of traffic at the weekends. I'm guessing this guy is in the Hill country around Austin. Anywhere that looks like fun has double solid lines up the middle, just in case you want to enjoy your ride too much. There's not too many A6006s, A68s or A93s around here. Road surfaces have a very high stone content due to the extreme temperatures so grip levels are extremely low, especially if it's raining.

[@jl9161]

Your problem with perfection certainly explains your love of chinese bikes😂

[@chrispekel5709]

The funny thing about Chinese bikes is seeing the same gear switches on aliexpress or trying to make sense of the some of the language....in that sense they have a lot of character. In terms of rider excitement they're usually pretty boring

[@bulthaosen1169]

​@@chrispekel5709I mean you might get excited for something in your bike failing. Not the good kind though.

[@derp195]

​@@bulthaosen1169 The excitement of not knowing if your bike is going to get you to your destination is too gnarly for me.

[@tarnishedsquid2967]

Best comment here 😅

[@chrispekel5709]

@@derp195 Most reliable bike I've had is Chinese LOL

[@SWTrailsAndWheels]

Imperfect bikes: "This bike sucks, it's flawed." Perfect bikes: "This bike sucks, it's boring." No bike can win.

[@mikerider58]

The insect headlights are really annoying. A single round headlight and half fairing would have been very cool 😎

[@mikewanamaker7352]

This is the problem with reviewers after many bikes, the flaws become character while perfection is boring.

[@spitescorner]

This is 100% true. When watching reviews, you need to take into account reviewer and their baises. I try to be transparent with mine.

[@ricardolourizela5961]

​@@spitescorner He was criticizing you, mate...

[@spitescorner]

@@ricardolourizela5961 So? He's right. I have bias because I've ridden almost every single production motorcycle from big manufacturers from the last ten years. Most people haven't.

[@theseriousmishra]

@@spitescornerrespect for this❤

[@Talishar]

It's the BMW effect. BMW has long been known as having generally the most boring bikes around. The Bavarians are known to make bikes that generally feel like appliances but work and perform really well. It's also why when they let something like a S1000RR slip out, it gets a ton of attention for a bit. He wasn't dogging this bike for no flaws, it was mostly that the motor itself was tuned specifically to be as linear as possible which usually isn't a characteristic people look for in a motorcycle. The MT-09's torque curve was designed that way on purpose. Engineers for passenger cars for budget or commuting tune their motors to be as linear as possible. This creates a soulless, appliance-like feel. It wasn't until relatively recently that automakers started putting more time into purposely making the torque curves on even their basic car engines interesting by tuning in little dips and peaks in the torque curve and then curating the automatic transmission to better utilize that curve.

[@MuddyTubMedia]

I have a 2021 RS (as seen in my pfp) and it’s everything I want in a street bike. Perfect amount of power, handling that makes me feel like a better rider than I am, great sound, great looks, comfortable yet aggressive ergos, brembo brakes, fully adjustable suspension, up and down quick shifter, and more. And I got it for an insane deal. $10,900 out the door.

[@IN_ZANE_]

What about the shift lever, is it weird like in the video? 9:27 Everything else he says in the video is meaningless, but that shifter feel would actually annoy me given other bikes I've owned feel solid there.

[@MuddyTubMedia]

@@IN_ZANE_ I have no issues with mine. It has a very positive, obvious “pop” when you shift up or down. Not spongy or vague at all.

[@IN_ZANE_]

@@MuddyTubMedia But that extra movement after it's already in gear?

[@suckalamink]

Yeah, i agree with you its a great bike. The only thing that throws me off is the looks... The googly eyes really bother me lol. But legendary bike nonetheless

[@MuddyTubMedia]

@@IN_ZANE_nope, nothing like that in my experience. It feels great

[@impreza99rs]

Me and my 2024 street triple RS respectively disagree. Naked bikes aren’t about highway cruising. I love the looks and refinement. It’s as fun as can be listening to that triple howl. 😎👍❤️

[@stefaandeswert377]

So, you are going to complain about the street triples insectoid headlights but won't mention the Yamaha's projector box headlight at all? That doesn't seem fair.

[@SHIIFUTO]

Totally agree. Most people complain about Street Triple's headlights but won't mention how boring and weird new MT models look, specially 2017-18 models. I may be biased cause I own one, but I really love the Triple's mantis eyes, very different from what we are used to see.

[@stefaandeswert377]

@@SHIIFUTO I myself also think the front of the street triple is it's least appealing feature. But the Yamaha just isn't any better.

[@tyranid05]

The headlights are definitely either you love them or hate them. For all the people complaining about how ugly they look, I think they're awesome. And the wasp/mantis comparisons also come into play, Google a top down image of a Street Triple and it is VERY smooth and tapered like a hornet or wasp.

[@hiddendragon415]

I own a MT09 SP and think the front ends of both bikes looks bad. The 765 headlights weirdly sticks out almost separated from the bike. His criticism was focused more on the engine character of the 765. In that department the MT09 CP3 engine is a gem.

[@Reginvalt]

@@SHIIFUTO For me Street Triple is the best looking naked. Headlights resemble Mantis shrimp eyes) I think naked bikes design is complicated topic since they lack perfect sportbike shape and are always some kind of industrial design with all the bits on a display.

[@Alex_mkII]

This has got to be the worst review of a Street Triple on KZbin

[@bukinnear]

I dunno lol, he basically gushes over it. "It's a perfect bike! I don't want a perfect bike!" I fucking love my striple, but it really feels wasted on anything besides twisties or the track.

[@Alex_mkII]

@bukinnear I test rode the Striple RS back-to-back against the MT-09 SP, the Duke 890R and the Ducati Monster, and found that the RS easily had the best gearbox of the three, as well as suspension and power. It's also a lot better looking than the MT-09 or the Duke.

[@isaaccruel3994]

@@Alex_mkIIword

[@FuriousGerbil5]

@@isaaccruel3994I also am a str owner 2018 and smoked a mt09 couple days ago idk if he just wast good at riding but yeah I whipped him off the line like bad

[@aluisious]

@@Alex_mkII You're lucky you got one that was assembled correctly. My Street Triple R had the worst suspension of any bike I'd ever ridden, including a 99 Ninja 250 that was running on one cylinder.

[@tyranid05]

I cross shopped the Street Triple and MT-09. I eventually decided on the street triple for a variety of reasons, both in the overall fit and finish and i actually like what was described as lacking character. I like how it does exactly what i want, when i tell it to, how i tell it to. I enjoy wringing it out too, the MT-09 is absolutely a beast but i personally like the more sporty experience of the street triple

[@BlakeLarsen3]

Same here. I was absolutely dead set on buying the 2024 MT-09 SP and called all dealers around me to put me on the waiting list. After months watching videos and comparing the Street Triple and MT-09, I decided on the ST. I currently own an MT-07, and while it's an awesome bike, it's clearly budgeted around the engine. Smoothness is last on the order of importance for the MT's. It just left me wanting something more premium and less (hooligany?). The ST is exactly that, from the top-notch build quality, throttle smoothness, premium spec components, and of course the looks and eye-catching color options. I really dig the updated headlight with the twin strip LED's on the ST. It looks mean and aggressive compared to the older models. There's no doubt in my mind it's the better bike, unless low-down torque is on top of your needs list. Everything else, the ST does better. Picking up my Carnival Red RS next week and couldn't be more excited. I've never heard anyone regret buying a Street Triple.

[@dextroustrout9531]

I can’t afford a striple. That being said I absolutely love my fz09 especially coming from an fz07. Still want a striple forsure though

[@tyranid05]

@@dextroustrout9531 it's definitely an expensive bike if you get the RS like I did. It was actually several thousand dollars above what I considered the top of my budget, but the dealership threw the keys at me after I test rode the bike I went to look at and from minute two I was absolutely hooked and had to have it.

[@rileystanek]

I haven't seen or rode a Street Triple in person, but I can say I have been on a '23 MT-09 SP and I did not love the small dash, riding position, or cheapish feeling buttons and switches. Build quality felt just OK. That said, awesome bike for sure 😃

[@JoeStanek-vu7rl]

​@@rileystanekI like your last name.

[@cmajaa1]

To be fair, Triumph designed this as a narrow focused machine, the solid handling and the smooth power delivery gives you precise control in the twisties. If you have the funds the STR can be your sports car experience and you can have a different bike for touring/commuting.

[@TheMachRider]

This video seems like it was designed to be controversial solely for views. "Wrong tool for the job" but "does everything so well". Normally think you have decent input but this was a contrived take. Reviewers tend to want to be excited with "character" once they've come to realize they aren't owning a bike and just need a brief reason to become excited.

[@erikjansen8597]

I strongly disagree. I had a 2018 Street Triple 765 (RIP), that I loved. That thing was so damn fun. I am still tempted to purchase another one, but I do not have the room. I also took it up from San Diego to Monterey. It's not a touring bike, but it is so much fun.

[@pillionperspectives2231]

Buy the 2022 it has a larger tank and can do 180 miles to a tank, I do some long rides with mine in the mountains with no problems, However being tall and heavy set I understand how this bike would shit spite on the street as a daily. But with me, I'm 5'8 and could not buy a better all-rounder.

[@motoguy1]

Amen. That’s why I love my Buell. Why I loved my Guzzis. And why I have no desire to own a Honda street bike aside from my 25 year old VFR.

[@wlt3585]

That hornets nest has been KICKED 🤣 I dont understand what you mean by lack of character, while it isnt super rowdy like the MT09 is, the way it goes from its light whistle to SCREAMING in the twisties is iconic. It also doesnt help that the bike feels way more at home in twisties/canyons/mountains rather than straight streets or highway. If that makes up majority of your riding and you dont do track days, Id probably recommend some other bikes as well.

[@Talishar]

It was mostly a complaint against the motor itself. The motor, while sounds good, was tuned too linearly, so it suffers from BMW syndrome. The engineers made it an appliance unlike the older street triple which had a little mid to top end hit. The older bike felt linear at first, if not a little lacking in power until you just get past mid-range in the RPM band and then you get a slap in the ass. That's what a lot of people look for on a naked bike and why the MT series from Yamaha is so popular.

[@Stratocasterhead51]

@@Talishar Its a shame that litterally the only thing going for the MT bikes is the engine. And to be honest, having tried them, even the engines are not so special. The 890 duke has more punch and is more rowdy whilst the 765r has so much more power and is smoother. Only reason people get the MT09 is because it is cheap and reliable. The MT10 on the other hand.... THAT is what i call an engine. CP4 one of the top 5 engines ever created for motorcycles.

[@iansmith237]

I had so much fun riding the very model you're talking about that it inspired me to finally part ways with what was my favorite motorcycle ever, my Vitpilen 701. So, yeah I think it's safe to say it's got a ton of personality.

[@tommy605]

I think you kind of explained it while on the highway. The bike isn't made for going straight, it's meant to carve in twisty roads. Yes, an MT will do the twisties just fine for us mortals, but even us mortals can tell the difference on curves between the two. So, if your rides mainly contains straight highway miles or city streets, get the MT all day. But if you have a fun twisty commute, the 765 is your bike. And if the headlights are that big of a deal, you're not riding the bike, you're off of it watching it.

[@JaffaJannu]

This must be the most paradoxical motorcycle review I've seen in a couple of years 😄

[@ThePurpleSquares1]

"its too perfect. its boring because it has no character or flaws." "The gearbox is flawed and its buzzy on the highway. The instrument cluster is bad and the headlight is ugly" ok.

[@DaySleeper403]

Let me tell you, I can’t help but take the smile off my face every time I swing a leg over my Street Triple.

[@toethumbmorris9]

Is that sarcasm? 😆

[@tjmanifest]

The problem with discussing 'character' is that it almost always becomes an abstract, philosophical discussion. One could argue that 'linear and smooth' is a most desirable characteristic. Great vid, just my 2 cents.

[@elevationmoto6208]

What makes a race bike fast and a street bike fun may not be the same things.

[@currycel470]

​@@elevationmoto6208racing is fun too and racing bike on street is definitely better

[@Stratocasterhead51]

You see, this is the problem with youtube. Any cretin can start reviewing products which he has no clue about. He lists the difference between the R and the RS as 5 extra horsepower, 1 more Nm of torque and a tft for 2000$. Any chimpanzee with a computer can fact check him and see you get a lot more for the RS model. Lets casually gloss over the TOP OF THE LINE brembo stylema brakes that cost probably a good 600-700$. The PREMIUM ohlins rear shock which probably sets you back another 1500$. The higher footpegs and more aggressive riding position. The more hyper aggressive tyre (Contiroad vs Diablo Supercorsas). I would say the extra power, tft dash, premium brakes and suspension for just under 2 grand is a sweet deal. In fact there is almost no point in purchasing the R unless you really cannot afford the RS.

[@ryemill7787]

I had a bmw 1200rs and this was the exact same problem. So refined I often felt like I wasn't on a motorcycle anymore and got bored.

[@erikjansen8597]

I had a Street Triple 765, before I had a BMW R1200RS. The BMW bored me too. I cannot stand keyless entry. The Triple was just so much fun.

[@Big_DT]

Dude, I test rode the R1250RS last year and had the same experience. It was simply too good, predictable, smooth, plenty of power and great brakes. It was just too refined for my taste, and I own a couple of Triumphs.

[@RestlessMule]

I had a BMW 1200R and I know what you mean. It was boring because it felt like there was no threat of losing control at any point.

[@NatsWright]

As with everything, a bike is subjective. I've wanted a Street Triple for a long time, and ironically its the first modern bike i've owned and been able to afford! My last bike, was a classic Yamaha Fazer FZS600, from the year 2000. This bike was more than the sum of its parts, and the upright riding position from that transfers over to my 2022 765 Street Triple RS. You have to work the gearbox somewhat, and while the power delivery is linear, just hold off that gear change for a moment and let the bike scream, you'll feel that exhilarating power kick in. There is a definite linear increase as the revs rise. Its fun and can give a nice boost out of a corner. Handling wise, the brakes are superb, with lots of grip and feel, although the rear brake is maybe a little too soft, its very forgiving when you just want a touch of speed shaved off. The bikes flickability is great and the chasse feeds back everything you need from the road. It flicks like my old CBR 400RR (NC23) did in fact, pretty good going when its 40kg heavier! Plenty of power on tap when you need it and the quick shifter/blipper works well, especially on down shifts. The bike has its issues, fuel tank is small, wind noise and buffeting without a fairing, but hey, its a naked, part of the experience. You can fit a screen though. Yes, my Triple is also set up for touring, I can attach luggage and can attest that its comfortable enough for this and is far more fun than a lumbering sports tourer! But I can only afford one bike, so it had to do everything and it turns out it can. Sure, on UK pot hole ridden roads, the suspension can feel harsh, but even then, the bike handles well. Give it a nice twisty road with good surface and its so much fun to ride. Its not a perfect bike, it has its quirks, but its so much fun and ticks all the boxes, I can forgive it for having some issues. Now Triumph, where is the front USB kit, for my bar mounted action camera power!

[@dshall442]

Rhett Shull made this same point with PRS guitars... so perfect there's no inspiration. You know, in case anyone was wondering...

[@mikein60fps30]

Yeh its a strange phenomenon. I have quite a collection of guitars. Well heres the issue, nomatter what you do, riding, sports, playing a instrument on and on, if you are doing a awfull lot of it you absolutely want a tool that dosen't fight you, i have a few "collectable guitars" very unique but now playability; thats a whole dif question. My take; i have held beautiful very expensive high end Gibson les Pauls and all great, BUT they weigh a ton, (there called a battle axe for a reason). If your sitting there for weeks writing a song, literately playing for untold hours , absolutely a PRS all day long. So my take/ do you want the best tool for the job? or is your main goal to look cool/be cool? 🤷‍♂ its a no brainer for alot of us out there. Best of luck, -Cheers

[@JasonRidesmoto]

Street Triple has always been one of my dream bikes... even the older 675... I will have one someday

[@j4zzx297]

Guessing you would be a fan of a street triple with a bad map on it. Just surges of power. The linear power is one of the best things about it when filtering/ commuting. I know that isnt a thing in the states, but accross europe its a pro.

[@mikein60fps30]

Ha , hear that throw some random exhaust from some random perf company , bolt it on and viola! plenty of "new" character AND that wonderful poping people seem to love when you ease off the throttle ( i myself cant stand it). Now the headlight em yeh thats a tough one, im a big fan of Triumph (have a trident) myself, but yeh the old school dual rounds look way better. Maybe some aftermarket solutions out there but I haven't seen any yet. -i just love the triples, good low end and decent high, its just obvious 3 cyl right in the middle of 2 and 4 right? boring? em i say not, but to each his own. -Cheers

[@FactsMister]

I test rode this exact bike back to back with an '23 XSR 900. The CP3 engine had more personality, kicks up the front wheel easier and leaves an stronger overall initial impression. But after getting on the side of the tire on both bikes the Striple won me over. Totally agree that it has a very bland flavor when pottering around, but I really like that its extra chill and easy to get along with around town. However any and all problems and niggles all evaporate as soon as I find any curvy road. It is just so damn good.

[@JOEBOWERY]

No mention of the linked brakes? What was your experience with them?

[@2alphacpa374]

The brakes are race track good….I can attest.

[@ExpectoDeleto]

Biggest problem with the Striple is that it's TOO perfect. What we call "character" is actually just interesting imperfections. Iron those out, and what you're left with is an fast, excellent handling motorcycle with awesome specs that doesn't give you the fizz.

[@spitescorner]

Said in two sentences what it took me 14 minutes say... But THING NUMBER 6 WILL SHOCK YOU!

[@ChrisScales17]

It's funny because that's how I felt about the z900se when I was riding it. It felt too tame and wanted to go straight more than anything. I was actually a bit bored on my test ride compared the the Triple I rode just an hour before it on the same road. Turned around early, went and purchased the street Triple because the 3cyl just felt so raw in comparison. I'll also mention, the z900 has an Sc project exhaust, the street Triple was stock and still sounded better

[@Sinister_fartbox]

But it’s really ugly. Uglier than anything out there. Triumph 🤮

[@RestlessMule]

@@ChrisScales17 there’s something intoxicating about the sound of a triple.

[@ChrisScales17]

@@RestlessMule people think my bike is supercharged because it's whistle while idling 😂 but I agree, a large part of the reason I bought it was the sound. I have a factory arrow with baffle removed now

[@jamesstephenson3733]

I do work for triumph so I'm potentially bias here but the RS is 100% worth the upgrade. Power wise theyre more or less the sane, but for that extra cash you get much better fully adjustable suspension, better brakes, and essentially a few factory accessories that everyone gets anyway like bar end mirrors, belly pan, seat cowl etc. Theyre both great bikes, but the RS does get much more bang for buck than the R. Love from AUS ❤

[@tremolony4924]

Looking to upgrade to a STR. Which year models are the best & which year models to avoid? On a $12K AUD budget, thanks

[@jamesstephenson3733]

@tremolony4924 they only make the 765r/rs new anymore. If you're on your full licence or going onto it, then you can pick up the older 675 striples for less than 12 (give you wiggle room for mods, roady etc). Up to 2017 they had cable throttles and the older gen look. My personal favourite generation due to the throttle response but 2017 onwards is an objectively "better bike"

[@jamesstephenson3733]

@tremolony4924 also, if you're on your restricted licence, any of the 660 street triples are awesome, especially when derestricted 😉

[@tremolony4924]

@@jamesstephenson3733 Thanks for the insights bro! Those derestricted 660s look absolutely absurd 😀

[@jamesstephenson3733]

@tremolony4924 trust me, they are 😆

[@rightwingsafetysquad9872]

I love my 2020 Striple. It handles by telepathy. The perfect tool for connecting rider to speed. And it's comfortable to ride all day. If it lacks character, I don't think I want character.

[@saunatakkijumala2190]

Yea street triple is probably "better" bike but damm if that mt09 dosent make you laugh like a joker i dont know what does

[@MrWolf2212]

Yup... Any MT bike is a hoot to ride

[@iansmith237]

I've had plenty of fun on MT09s but I genuinely enjoy the new Striples more. Maybe that will change if I get to ride the new MT09 though.

[@Matt-fu9wx]

Duke 890r

[@wlt3585]

Exactly this. The STR takes itself more seriously and is more sporty, but the MT07 and 09 are amazing hooligan fun

[@killerdeviant]

Yea and you could get the sp for the same price as the triple

[@FridaysWithMark]

As a 765RS owner, your review is pretty spot on and you hit my major complaints more or less (buzzy bars @ 8k, muddy shifter feel, aggressive foot position on longer rides). That said, it's the perfect motorcycle for the Santa Cruz mountains where I live. I'm not sure if there's another bike in the class I'd take over it. Throttle linearity is amazing, suspension is great, brakes are awesome, riding position is perfect for the twisties. I've put 3600 miles on it in 3 months and it's been almost entirely highway 9 / Skyline / 84 / PCH. I'll put 10k on it this year and see how I feel come next spring.

[@KiwiMoto72]

Respectfully, I disagree. I own an original Speed Triple from 1993, and it's the speed triple that I think has actually gone backwards a bit. The STriple is a wonderful machine, ESPECIALLY on the track. If you want pure soul in a bike this size, then look for a twin not a triple. I agree that the triple engine has become so smooth that it's easy to confuse as too refined, but for me its a perfectly balanced Moto on the street and the track, but that's just me.... You do you.

[@chrispekel5709]

He does say it's just his opinion at the end. He's purposefully making the titles a bit argumentative to get views. But can't blame him it's a job!

[@aidens04]

I had an older 675 version. What a bike!

[@lateknights1]

That‘s were I have to disagree with you. The suspension alone is worth the extra for the RS IMO. Combined with the dash, paint, tyres and the possibility for cruise control it‘s not a bad deal

[@iamguy9471]

I agree, having recently rode a ‘24 r vs a ‘24 RS back to back, hoping that there wouldn’t be much difference. After one corner it was obvious that the RS was on another level.

[@justinthomas3696]

I just had this issue. I owned a 675R and loved it. Wanted to get back into something similar and was looking at the 765RS. Ended up going with the MT09 SP. I think overall I prefer the triumph but by the time I add cruise control (which isn’t standard on the triumph) it was a good bit more expensive to get the 765RS. While I love the MT09s torque and ergos and the fun factor, I think overall I prefer the triumph for how serious it is and it personally looks better. Don’t regret my decision but it is hard to argue for the Triumph with everything you get on the Yamaha for the money. Great video!

[@lazzygnome4060]

"This bike has been crafted to be the most precise, well designed road bike on the planet. Now let me explain why all that is bad, and you should instead buy a worse bike." - Spite, as he turns into a motorcycle Boomer.

[@RaceWithTime]

I agree with two things, a new ST3 R/RS should have cruise control, and the ST3 R should have the analog dial tach. I disagree with almost everything else though relating to character…but hey that’s just me, I’m pretty sure there are bikes Spite would find characterful that I would find bland.

[@Stratocasterhead51]

You see, this is the problem with youtube. Anyone with a camera can start reviewing products which he has no clue about. He lists the difference between the R and the RS as 5 extra horsepower, 1 more Nm of torque and a tft for 2000$. Any chimpanzee with a computer can fact check him and see you get a lot more for the RS model. Lets casually gloss over the TOP OF THE LINE brembo stylema brakes that cost probably a good 600-700$. The PREMIUM ohlins rear shock which probably sets you back another 1500$. The higher footpegs and more aggressive riding position. The hyper aggressive tyre (Contiroad vs Diablo Supercorsas). I would say the extra power, tft dash, premium brakes and suspension for just under 2 grand is a sweet deal. In fact, unless you only ride around town, the RS is the better option. PS: A yamaha MT09 does NOT accelerate anything close to an R1. It doesn't feel as fast, and ISNT as fast. Please dont spew bullshit around. Controversial review is controversial just for the sake of views and stirring the pot. Job done i guess.

[@mariokalanja7408]

Hi there I really had to smile, because I tend to agree to what you say. I did test ride Duke 890 (2023), MT-09 (2024) and Street Triple R (2024) lately. The ergonimics on the streety feels next to perfect for me (1,8m tall 82kg) gear lever handlebar everytghing seems very well placed for me. The Duke gear lever is too short and I did sometimes miss it while riding, and the MT-09 lever was a bit too much up for my taste. But both things you can fix easily. Also the quickshifter seems to be a bit smoother than the one on the KTM or Yamaha, but I miss the punch of the engine of the street triple. It revs perfectly smooth up, and the power delivery is abolutely linear, but I really miss the punch at something like 6000rpm that the Duke 890 or the MT-09 deliver. The streety is very nice motorbike and I like the looks of it better than the look of the MT-09 or the Duke 890, but if I spent something like 10kEUR+ on a bike I like it to be better than my 21 years old Yamaha FZ 1000 Fazer. The Fazer has 143hp and about 105Nm of torque, but it also has about 40kg more than the other bikes. I you boil it down to Nm/kg the Duke and the MT-09 clearly have the edge over the others. And that parameter Nm/kg is the one that is responsible for the acceleration feeling that feels so good for me. I'm not a racetrack driver and so the Duke or the MT-09 would be my choice. But everyone likes different motorbikes so I don't want to "convert" any happy street triple riders to the hooligan bikes Duke 890 or MT-09. Let there be the gentlemens in their perfect suits as well. If they would bring a streety with 900ccm and 90-100Nm I would really have a hard time choosing which to buy, but as there is the speed triple, I don't think that will happen anytime soon. And the speedy is too big, too powerful and too expensive for me.

[@crash5811]

After uve ridden a few miles and 2-300 bikes, its all about the character of the bike and how it makes u smile. As badass as my zx14r and turbo-busa are, my xs1100 and gs750L (w apes and bags) r still my favorites. W their carbureted shennanigans n piss poor mpgs. They do nothing great, but theyre a blast to ride the whole time.

[@_TimTurb0_]

I want my xs1100 running again 😩

[@Skikyro]

Spite quick question. MT09 or MT07 for first naked bike? I already own an R3 and GSX-R1000R and I want a naked bike that I can whip around and still have reasonable power. Is the MT09 as sensitive on the throttle as my 1000?

[@Hybrids4meok]

Mt-09

[@stedibear]

Notice how the pitch goes very high when Spite knows he's just trying to be contrarian, yet pretends to have a point. Made a choice not wanting to gush over a bike everyone's gushing over before the "review". But you got your engagement, another dollar in the bank huh. Wish I got what I wanted out of it as a viewer too.

[@viamoto8486]

True.

[@hizzy731]

This bike isn't really designed for North American highways, buy a Harley for that. These bikes are naked sports bikes, the tech is groomed and honed on Moto2 aimed at the more twisty commutes that we have here in the UK. I have the 2023 RS and having come from the mk 2 Speed 1050, this is a far better all rounder, better power to weight and bags more fun. I've ridden sports bikes for over a decade and moved over to Triumph Triples 14 years ago. They do it so very, very well. Each to their own, but I get bored on motorways in any vehicle, not just on a bike.

[@leudwigc6000]

How would this bike be for a tall person? I am 6'6" with a 32-34" ish inseam. Are there any mods (taller seats, lower pegs) to make a tall person more comfortable?

[@SoulReaper599xx]

The Striple is the best bike. I had a 2019 765 RS with an ex project can, and boy it sounded nice. It had tons of character . And yes it sucks on the freeway but that's not what I bought it for. I have never ridden a bike where I was as comfortable as I was on the striple

[@rayman1230]

My new and first motorbike, 2023 Street triple RS in carbon black, gives me the feeling of ME more then any other bike I’ve checked out previously. Is it the most comfortable? No. But it’s quite comfortable for a sporty naked bike. The light weight and easy, sharp maneuverability actually caught my interest most. Then the engine with its wide powerband. It’s got grunt but not overwhelming amounts that make slow, tight turns questionable. Lean into the throttle hard around 5000 and the smooth power builds fast. Then I notice the strong brakes, yet not overly touchy. I have confidence trail braking my turns. And lastly, after all that, I see how sleek yet still individual the styling is. It’s not overly done, and still incorporates nice rounds features. All in all, this bike delivers. Period. I don’t want more, and I’m not looking for less.

[@StrawDragon]

When the MT09 finally uses Brembo brakes outside of their SP variation

[@Jake23115]

I'm a 1:13 in and already I've got to stop you. I've owned 3 of these, starting off with a 2018 R 765, upgrading to a 21 RS, and then lastly a 22 RS, I have recently traded it in for a 23 S1000XR M Sport. I rode the absolute shit out of all of them, did 2 separate track days on each of the RS's and couldn't have asked for a better bike. At the particular track I went to the fastest time around was a 1:17, the fastest time I had (before I fucked up and low sided) was 1:22. The guy who had the fastest lap was on a full race spec ZX6R, I had essentially a standard RS with an Akra slip-on, race air filter. Before I traded it in, I bought a BrenTune kit and tuned it. To say that these bikes don't have any "personality" is laughable. If I could own 2 bikes I would have kept my RS.

[@Derpderpson123]

100% agreed, I don’t understand what he means with lack of character- maybe he needs to stop riding at 3000 rpm in 6th gear?

[@ethanwallis4910]

I always loved how Triumph transmissions and gear shifters have felt… way nicer than a lot of bikes I’ve ridden. odd take.

[@jonathanlongworth4463]

I just got a 2019 indian ftr 1200 s and I absolutely love it. I know you think the 19 18 wheels are too much of a compromise but it feels really great to me. Plus I got a killer deal on it. It's not perfect as a canyon carver. It's not a great cruiser. It's not a great adventure bike. But it's perfect for me

[@joaopedroejarque6566]

Perfect bike. Owned two, the S and the RS. As you say, bike perfection. Absolutely love the headlights. The finish is 1st class and the price quality relation is among the best in the market. Sold my RS with a cry but I needed a bike more travel oriented and could not afford keeping two. But I can say I had a Street Triple, in its category of price, quality, looks and performance probably the best Sport naked around.

[@gilbertoalvarez29]

The chicken strips on the rear tire are pretty self explanatory 😂

[@SuperRider-RS]

7:14....Triumph is known to deliver power linear, can be fixed with basic tune.

[@monaro34]

you got mine back from a tune with 136hp not a whole lot gained down low but quite a bit up top

[@blakehawkins3296]

I mean maybe I’m just coping with my new purchase, but to me the striple RS has way more character than the mt-09

[@ReefHeater]

I love my STRS, it has character. This is his opinion on his character preference, and I have mine. Funny how he says flaws make character and that this bike has no flaws, then goes on to list several flaws he found, lol, so which one is it?

[@FuriousGerbil5]

@@ReefHeaterI also own str 2018 and compared to mt09 str is much more refined power and in my opinion just a better quality finish all around

[@ultimatemassive9501]

Everyone's entitled to their opinion. I have a 22 R and absolutely love it. Feels like an SV650 on steroids.

[@Khrenan]

Why is a speed triple a bad upgrade from mt07? Seems logical if you want to -UP- grade? What bike do you need to upgrad to a Speed Triple?

[@graylunsford]

Wow, Spite. I agree with you wholeheartedly! In fact, I came to essentially the same conclusions just last month when I visited Austin for the MotoGP races. I rented a local guy’s XSR 900 and had a BLAST riding it around parts of the eastern Hill Country. That engine is so fun and SOUNDS so good that it almost made traffic bearable. Then I took a demo ride on a Street Triple RS and was blown away at how sorted it was! It was so planted that I was able to do things on the demo ride that I had never done before just because the bike was SO good! and the brakes and brake feel? OMG. O.M.G. The smoothness of the throttle was something i’ve never felt on any other bike. It changed my understanding of what is possible, gave me maybe a teeny insight into why the Moto2 racers now are going as fast as the two stroke 500 MotoGP racers back in the day. The Street Triple is ABSOLUTELY the bike I would want to ride in the mountains, BUT… as good as the engine was, I kept thinking, “This is a triple. Maybe it would sound good with a straight pipe and good muffler. Why isn’t it fun like Yamaha CP3?” The mid-range rush and roar of the Yamaha are so satisfying! If the new MT-09 SP or the XSR 900 have improved handling even a little over 2018 model I rode in Austin, THAT is a very strong candidate for next bike due to the all-around experience. When I hear that engine and feel that torque, I think: THAT is how I want riding to make me feel.

[@hiddendragon415]

I own a Gen 3 22 MT09 SP and the handling certainly is improved over a 1st or 2nd Gen MT partly due to the stiffer frame. It a great all rounder and lots of fun.

[@Banditmanuk]

Possibly the worst review of a Street Triple ever. Never have I heard so much b/s talked about a bike. Complains about how the bike is on a highway 😅 who buys one of these to ride in a straight line? Think I'm following the wrong channel here. 🖐

[@softbeard8854]

I have a street triple RS. And I generally agree to some extent. But what I can tell you is, I'm not that young any more. I had an R1 in the very late 90's and now that I'm in my 40's I like that my street triple makes my ride so dead easy. The leg position is aggressive but I don't find it uncomfortable. I do feel like at least my bike has a personality. But the personality is more cold and calculated than many other bikes. I completely agree on the headlights and replaced them with a single LED unit that makes the bike look amazing. I love mine. But that's me.

[@chewie8]

How do you find the size? Do you find it small overall?

[@danco6010]

Had a 2023 MT-09SP, i ridden it 23k km in almost all conditions in under 1 year(upgraded the brakes), it was a great performer; the problem for me was the bumpy roads in my country it killed my back. Upgraded to an BMW R1250GS but i miss the naked feel and also would like to have a bike to do a few track days per year, do you guys think the R model is enough? I wouldn't buy the RS because of the bumpy roads again.

[@diptenkrom]

not sure is riling up the masses was the goal here, it is April Fools Day... if not, then some food for thought. While I don't disagree with some of the points here, I think maybe replace "character" with something else. not sure what, but maybe "attitude" fits better. in the MT-09 comparison, i think that fits the analogy better. the STriple is composed and linear, and the MT is wild, peaky, and less predictable. I am not the ideal consumer for either of these bikes - i like analog gauges and less tech. taller than you, and the newest bike i have is a 98 VFR800Fi.

[@kennethjarrett158]

I'm curious about your opinion on the honda xr650l since you have a KLR. When can we get a video comparison of the two

[@leandroflaherty]

The Honda is an old school, barebones dirtbike with high ground clearance that does the street well. The klr is a road bike, heavier, better highway tourer that can do dirt. In short dual sport vs adv bikes, whats your goal? Long miles or more technical miles? Personally I would get the xr650R ;)

[@PokerMuppet]

I think some of the data is out of date anyway... the RS has 10 more HP than the R... for a start. Then... I'm not sure about your riding style anyway. You shouldn't ride on your toes, especially if you're riding 'sporty' as you need access to both the rear brake and the gears without needing to replace your feet all the time. It could also be argued that no bikes are comfortable on highways. Even adventure and sport touring bikes get achy and painful... You also criticise the headlights, have you seen the lights on the 09 or 07? The lack fo cruise control on one of their premium bikes is a bit negative but that is about the only one that I can see really, it's even cheaper than the 09 too.

[@AJax7886]

I just bought a STripR a month ago. It's perfect for what I want and use it for.

[@shawnhunter4092]

These are the same arguments that every Harley owner gives. "our bikes are best because they are flawed"

[@MikMotor]

I can't comment on the Street Triple R. But your observation of the foot pegs is spot on. My experience started with 2020 Street Triple RS and the upgraded to the 2024 Moto 2 limited in 2023. I will say this the higher up in the model, you get the more refined the machine becomes. After feeling the difference between the 2020 RS and the 2024 Moto2. There is a night and day difference. I could only imagine what the difference in ride feel if I knew what an R model felt like. The RS was my first bike. I bought it a few days before my MSF class. What I've noticed is that it is frequently compared to MT09, MT10, KTM 890. That says a lot for a 765 triple. Credit where credit is due it is an unbelievable machine.

[@jpaube1]

have you tried to fit the new 45mm cardo speakers in your helmet? so keen to know if its worth getting the cardo pro or not but worried the speakers wont fit

[@jeremyvahle5861]

The 2013 Street Triple was my first bike and I love it. As a little guy it’s very comfortable to ride and reach the ground yet had enough oomph to keep it and grow as a rider than starting on a smaller sized engine and getting bored. Hoping to get another one and build it into a track bike because the handling is superb.

[@ama55]

Hello. Can you tell me what is the mount you have for the camera in the helmet? Thanks. ✌️

[@Kindred101]

I currently ride a 2016 ST Rx. I love it. Daily it in warmer months. also replaced the headlights with a single round. To me, that’s what it needs. Great bike.

[@Roaddog420]

It is refreshing to see you reviewing the experience and not hyper focused on stats and top speed. I find it amusing that in present times we have such categories of bikes and distinctions such as "great in the twisties" or "a good commuter". I can remember when there were only two categories, street and dirt. I still think Yamaha and Kawasaki make the best "ride it everywhere" bikes. I have been enjoying your adventure and frustrations with the VMAX, I have been down that road many times with the max, I would have wanted to check 2nd gear before taking on that much "weather" on a max.

[@camt2626]

I agree with you about the decision of spending money on the Yamaha triple. In 2016 I was cross shopping the 675rx and the xsr900. There was just something special about the XSR and it is what I eventually chose. 8 years and 16k miles later and my XSR still brings me the same joy as it did on the test ride.

[@moabushahba4687]

The only problem I see here is that this dude is way too big for this bike.

[@FABM27]

I noticed it too...as he said "not for me"

[@sylvainletang8645]

765 r is 118hp at 11,500 rpm 59lbs/feet at 9500 rpm... 765 rs is 128hp at 12,000 rpm 59lbs/feet at 9500rpm. Wet weight 415 lbs. Power to weight ratio 0.31. MT09 is 117hp and 69lbs/feet with 425 lbs wet weight. Power to weight ratio of 0.275. So triumph is more nimble and has better power to weight ratio... yammie is heavier, underpowered but has more torque. Guess it just depends on what floats your boat! But the rs would definitely float mine! Just get rid of the original exhaust put a full titanium line and voilà!

[@Speedytrip]

I had an MT--09 and a Street Triple 675. In both cases, an exhaust makes a huge different in the grin factor. With that said, the grin factor to me was greater on the MT-09, it was also more comfortable, but that howling 675 was fun as well :) If everyone was looking for the same thing in a bike, we'd only need one brand and one model.

[@cornelgr]

How's the comparison between the RS version and the Duke 890R?

[@adnaanebrahim]

I had a 2017 765R and I called it the iPhone. It worked and everything was flawless and when I parked it, I never looked back at it. Funnily enough the 2017 version came with the excellent TFT dash and they took it away later. It also had a different cam profile for more torque lower down. Anyway I swapped it for an R nineT and a 999S.

[@gmc3578]

the RS has substantial suspension improvement for Sport Canyon riding and/or Track Day outings!

[@oofskzy]

Comically bad review, obviously spiteful of yammie's love of triumph.

[@axelotl86]

I respect this take on the 765 but I’m not with you in the conclusion. Had the 765, went to the CP3 and went back. Funnily I would say that the CP3 is just hooligan and nothing more . The 765 fells like so much more. But as so said we all have our opinions.

[@junjuncrookiemonsta]

All of those “perfections” you hate are all of the same reasons you should try the 675. Same bike, just without all of the killjoys (and a little less power). I live in ATX. Wouldn’t mind if you wanted to swing a leg over mine sometime. Loved the video. Keep it up homie.

[@RadDadisRad]

I have a 2024 765 RS. It needs different rearsets. The shoe saver on the shifter is problematic when really getting after it. I also think the bars a touch too tall when riding aggressive.

[@Steveman61]

What a waste of time, within 4 minutes I see a lot of utter BS, couldn't look further... sorry. (no I dont own one).

[@squiretomasie7003]

I had a 2018 765 RS and sold it for almost the reasons you dont like about it. Being 5'6" it fit me great. The handling and suspension were awesome The engine has no character,,feels like a electric motor. I only enjoy twisty roads so I replaced it with a 2018 KTM 690 Duke. I have been ridding 62 years and cant remember how many I have owned. Being 80 now I needed a light bike that I could up right on my own. The KTM is the most entertaining and pure fun I have ever owned. The engine is a Jewel! My back ground is I was a AMA Expert Flat Tracker and Road Racer At 80 I still have fire in my belly.

[@churchofbrap876]

Most stock bikes are corked up these days. I even thought a new xsr900 was boring compared to my older modded one. Put a pipe and tune in these new bikes and they come alive.

[@Coolamon]

I get your point. I've been playing with sports tourers for a while I went from a VFR800 (I never was happy with the suspension), to a BMW R1250RS (great bike, did everything well but missed some playful character) to now on a KTM Super Duke GT. That KTM does have its flaws, but what a joy to ride.

[@smnlcu]

I own this bike and I like the fact that it curves amazing. That it does not force me to accelerate like crazy to have fun (and lose my licence), is exactly why I bought this bike.

[@pfroo40]

I agree the Street Triple is just a little too refined of a ride, and the engine is a little buzzy for around town riding. Last year I was deciding between the ST and a Street Cup, since most of my riding is city riding, I ended up going with the more characterful Street Cup. I may still buy an older Triple eventually as a second bike...

[@phillittle5890]

I have the RS. It’s my fourth bike and by far the best bike I’ve had. I started on a SV650 then a Z900 then an old gsx1400. I bought the street triple in June this year and it’s f-kin awesome. By far the best bike I’ve ever ridden on the road

[@texassparky]

Thanks for review. Enjoyed it. Seems like your biggest complaints were headlight shape and it's to predictable. I like the looks and truthfully, as just an amateur rider I appreciate that. I've had a CBR 600 and a Harley 1200. As just an average street rider I can't imagine anybody being disappointed with the power of either of those. Only problem with the CBR was if I had someone on the back. Doesn't have the torque for that. By myself, I never thought once "this thing needs more power"!! I did get it up to 140 mph once and all I thought was Shut it down!! If I hit a pebble, I'm gonna die!! I'm sure there are people out there that can push the limits of these machines, but most can't. Get one you are comfortable on and you like seeing in your garage. They are all pretty close far as the average dude can push it on public roads...

[@TheMotoShaman]

I LOVED my striple…. Your points track, but honestly I would buy another one without hesitation.

[@papatorr3669]

I swapped my Thunderbird 900 triple for a Thunderbird sport 900 triple. My experience went from comfortable with inadequate brakes to somewhat uncomfortable lower half with slightly more than adequate breaks. This street triple reminds me more of the T-Bird sport with two decades of improvements.

[@thehomeless_trucker]

I pulled the trigger on the 2024 street triple RS.... I was actually going to just get the R, but the yellow makes the bike IMO.... I actually love the look of the bike and never really cared for the MT-09. The bike is so easy to ride, and I love how perfect it is. Both my bikes are purely for fun as I dont have a traditional daily commute to work. We'll see if i ever get bored with time, but i dont believe i will.

[@ChrisScales17]

The headlight is something you genuinely grow to love. I was going to do the single conversion before actually purchasing. The headlight grew on me hard and I love it now

[@Mykhos]

I was perplex when i first get to know the triumph headlight, now i "like it"

[@blakehawkins3296]

Same, I was looking up single headlight conversions as my first mod for the bike, but as after picking up my striple rs, I couldn’t imagine changing them (although I think the new headlights are the best so far)

[@ChrisScales17]

@@blakehawkins3296 I was all about the brogue conversation before my bike was actually in the garage. The bike constantly looks like it's ready to attack, almost as if it's an arrow. I was in love with the mt09 and z900 until I got on this thing. Now both those bikes feel bloated to me. I am entertained that the 765 is in the same class as the 900s with more CC or cyl's. Just shows how good triumph did here. The issue I have with this review is that if you want some lumpy high tq wheelie machine you get a ktm, if you want something where you're chasing the power you get a zx6r Both those other bikes will have the same complaints "it's too raw, you can't cruise" or "you're constantly winding out the throttle, waiting for the power" So when you get torque and hp in a light bike, now it's boring? My wheel comes up in 2nd constantly under throttle and the bike doesn't stop pulling at any point in the rev range

[@wlt3585]

​@@blakehawkins3296Agreed, I geuninely just cant see myself putting a single headlight onto it, though I love the bug eyes now

[@malachii420]

@@ChrisScales17 I have a 2024 Street Triple RS, and it comes up like crazy in first, but not really in second. Is your bike stock?

[@henriverbrugghen8715]

I have a 2024 street triple R (that exact bike) I love it to death and it's such a fun experience when I compared it to my trident 660. The trident 660 was a good bike but the shocks felt cheap and couldn't handle bumps that well, and after about 2k miles I got bored of it and got the street triple. I love how the street triple feels premium where to me the trident felt like a cheap street triple. I commute to school on the highway on the street triple and love it but when it comes to long distance or just going out for a nice cruise I'd rather take my Meteor 350 from royal enfield. Like you said the street triple is such a perfect package that it makes you notice the small things and one of those things is how the bike does not make you feel the sense of discovery or exploration like the meteor 350. The street triple is a weapon of a bike that makes you want to go fast and hit corners fast and hard and it will do it all perfectly but for me when I want to have my relaxed days and go even on a tour and put down a few hundred miles in a day I will take my meteor 350. And the trident was also a nice bike but not for me (felt like a lackluster street triple), I have my go fast quick bike and my slow basic meteor 350 and to me that's the perfect balance of motorcycling.