Why I'm Against Anti-Doping Part 1

[@clarence0]

Hey guys, I made a follow-up video because it was definitely needed. You can really talk about this for hours. If you have any doubts about my arguments in this video then I highly recommend checking out part 2 Link to Part 2: kzbin.info/www/bejne/gaqoqqyoeMiembs

[@bumpercoach]

heres a possibility -- just require a responsible party like a doctor or nation-state certify the athlete isnt getting into a dangerous state of overuse and be responsible for their life-long care if his/her liver suddenly fails

[@bumpercoach]

simple reality -- as long as winning is better than losing people will find ways to improve their odds

[@jakesimmonds5043]

Do a video on why you became vegan.

[@hhfbko]

Yup

[@incorectulpolitic]

Only a person below the age of 10 believes that ANY elite sport is clean... or the mentality of a 10 year old. Even at national level junior ages, i.e. ages of 16-17, 18- 19 they are using PEDs. I am in the industry since 2001. ;) ....

[@yannickp.2430]

Clarence talked more during this one video than all the videos combined from the beginning of his channel.

[@AskEpic]

such a tease

[@Solidfreeman01]

Clarence trains so much, he has no energy left to speak. That was true marathon.

[@DUES_EX]

Facts

[@disk38]

lmao

[@harleyzeth]

And yet somehow, he's never wasted breath. Only talks that good shit

[@KazeN64]

As a natural lifter, I 100% support abandoning anti doping. Making the public believe competitions are won by nattys just makes everyone else look worse unfairly.

[@suppositionstudios]

Agreed, I have a healthier outlook on my potential and how i'm developing as a lifter now that I can stop comparing myself to people who are doping

[@seamie997]

Mario cycles tren romhack when?

[@zomvex6027]

Yeah, I mean that is kind of discouraging, but that should not stop you from trying your hardest every day at the gym, just know, that if you are willing to compete internationally, it's going to be unfair.

[@Deathsquadstudios4]

Same thing with the bodybuilders and Instagram dudes who very obviously take steroids and lie about it. If you want to take steroids, fine who cares, but I don't understand the point of claiming natty when its obviously a lie. At that point, your just misinforming people who don't know any better that it's achievable naturally when it's not.

[@monoflea6851]

The general public doesn't even know whether or not prime Arnold was natty. If you're a natural lifter, anti-doping or no anti-doping, you're being made and will continue to be made to look worse unfairly, but the best hope of changing that in the future is to maintain anti-doping and try to make it more effective, not abandon it altogether.

[@sinsho-k1523]

"Someone who's talented can't beat someone that's talented and uses drugs" well said Clarence

[@virginboi4654]

It's nature.

[@tacticalchunder1207]

This is why it’s very easy to figure out that everyone at the top of every sport, is on PED’s. Why? Because if they weren’t, someone else would, and they would be at the top instead.

[@dhdhsjajdjdhsjajs5601]

Wrong ..... Jesus christ is my strength in my weakness. All things are possible with God .

[@virginboi4654]

@@dhdhsjajdjdhsjajs5601 lol

[@llamaryder1]

@@dhdhsjajdjdhsjajs5601 "so jot that down"

[@gregdoucette]

Outstanding video and research.

[@rage6224]

can't wait to hear your squeaking about it

[@clarence0]

Thanks Greg!

[@rikkertteuge]

If my doctor says so it must be true

[@JewStudios]

you make people believe using PEDS has a miniscule effect on sport performance. you make people think that genetics are the only significant driver of differences between people and everything else produces a very minor advantage.

[@JewStudios]

you have also displayed the exact opposite sentiment of this video in your old response to phillion in which he said most top athlethes are using PEDS, and you have strongly opposed that. you should make a video about how you were wrong the 3000th time

[@juanvrunovillanueva8536]

This should get more attention than divine protein shakes, tricep/pec injuries, and comment dramas.

[@jz8184]

Yes! Geez

[@crashyyy4116]

online fitness is mostly a bunch of teenage gym bros, tho.

[@questionableethnicity2268]

I dunno, divine protein shakes need to be explored by science.

[@juanvrunovillanueva8536]

@@questionableethnicity2268 pornhub has done so much already and literally no pornstar has become jacked from swallowing it.

[@ada0015]

@@juanvrunovillanueva8536 I think the guy was joking my dude haha

[@beastmanx9865]

i showed my sister Larry Wheel’s latest video and she asked me “do you think he might be on steroids?” she was shocked when i said of course

[@solomonanczarski5402]

I saw people arguing that the rock was natty on an instagram post. Their argument was that picture of him at 15, and how he trained everyday and it was his "job". Most people have no idea what they're looking at.

[@tacticalchunder1207]

It baffles me how blind the general public are to roids.

[@juanburgueno3274]

@@solomonanczarski5402 a friend of mine told me it was because of good genetics lol

[@andrewnaumann8688]

Hahah i told my roomate that brian shaw was on steroids and he was like "What!? No way!!". It broke his heart just a bit

[@Ibrahim-vx5kq]

@@tacticalchunder1207 because thinking that out of 7 billion people, a few people can lift insane amounts makes sense, that's why and because no one wants to be told they were lied to

[@fanboy680]

Who else remembers clarence saying he will make this video like 4 years ago in a qna, well I'm still here

[@mbeezy6947]

exactly what I thought!

[@CristianDumitru]

yep, I remember that :D

[@mbeezy6947]

he actually said this a year ago in his 4th Q&A, always wanted to hear his reasoning behind it, I wasn't disappointed.

[@alexandrudumitru2435]

Its been a loooong wait

[@Luxonism]

Im here since he had 600 subs or somethink like that lol

[@vetlevelle840]

To fix a problem, the first step is to admit that there is a problem.

[@djrandlev2864]

Didn’t they already admit there was a problem and try and ‘fix’ a problem already and that’s why we are where we are?? 🤔 this would be fixing the fix or unfixing the fix 🤯😆

[@Lolp821]

It's not a problem, it's an aspect of human behaviour. It'll always be there. Clarence seems to be very sjw on this subject.

[@JR-wj9bh]

.lol

[@LOLLYPOPPE]

What a moronic quote

[@dooby1445]

@@Lolp821sjw 💀 what a loser opinion

[@abhisheksathe123]

As a street philosopher and a practitioner of the art of MMA Nate Diaz once said _“Everybody’s on roids”_

[@thegrinderman1090]

"You were playing touch-butt in the park with that dork with a ponytail" lmao

[@mindasb]

@@thegrinderman1090 LOL :D

[@vincentmoon9187]

except him haha

[@mikeoxlong4588]

I thought that was nick ?

[@deankruse2891]

But they arent.

[@thelongbow141]

Damn I just love Clarence so much. He's intelligent, ethical, and honest on top of being so fantastically strong. The world needs more athletes like him.

[@laughterman805]

Great. Go on then

[@laughterman805]

No time to waste. Inelegance, ethics, honesty and strength are pursuits that are best undertaken immediately

[@sgarnev9776]

He wasnt always honest. People have been asking him if hes natty for years., but only recently he confirmed hes not

[@Ron-gq4yl]

@@sgarnev9776 he didnt say he was natty though

[@fmls8266]

@@sgarnev9776 He never denied and even lowkey confirmed it many times with jokes and memes. He's always been honest.

[@rancen6]

Clarence is really the goat of KZbin fitness. It's a real show whenever he posts

[@ooy5596]

Don't forget about alpha destiny

[@trillhennyson2245]

@@ooy5596 lmao

[@manumaster1990]

I like Clarence but the real goat is Ryan Humiston!

[@dontreadmyname4396]

@@manumaster1990 lol

[@nbyfceryhxet]

Amen

[@nagabro5770]

I don't really care if any top athlete (or anyone) uses drugs, but I do want them to be open and honest about it.

[@paraglidingnut26]

Good luck! I've been around weight rooms for almost 40 years. Very, very few men & women would actually admit to taking a muscle enhancing supplement.

[@ataraxia2894]

@@paraglidingnut26 partly because it's illegal without a doctor's prescription in the US and demonized so such an insane extent.

[@kermitthefrog2578]

Just like the legend rich piana

[@jemazondo9331]

Why? What’s the point? You know already.

[@ProfShibe]

@@paraglidingnut26 And how many are doing it legally? You're essentially asking "what illegal activities do you partake in?"

[@webapp31]

Didn't expect this type of video from you Clarence! I love how much more open you are now. 6 years ago I could not imagine hearing your voice as much as we do now. Thanks for posting this and speaking on a controversial, yet very important topic.

[@oskarrask9413]

Agreed!

[@matthewmckee6289]

He’s so damn well spoken as well. Just the cherry on top.

[@matthewmckee6289]

@the_bearded_schlub what?

[@paulstone8066]

Blows my mind when people think the Olympic sprinters don’t dope

[@JudoMoniz]

Most top athletes on any sport are on something. It's fine, they are still much more talented than the average guy at whatever sport they do

[@lionlepine2945]

@@JudoMoniz the more a sport relies on pure strength, the more athletes need to dope in order to win

[@raupenimmersatt6906]

@@lionlepine2945 Road cycling doesnt need strenght but stammina- and the field is full of geared up guys. The only sport I truly believe is mostly drug free: Downhill MTBing

[@lionlepine2945]

@@raupenimmersatt6906 I just put that under long term strength, but of course one could call it stamina.

[@cali6601]

@@lionlepine2945 Maybe physical prowess is a better term

[@deficitstifflegzercherdeadlift]

2021 has absolutely been the year of Clarence uploads thus far.

[@clarence0]

Maybe this is the peak of the anime

[@bondymagnomous3544]

@@clarence0 Might be a bit controversial, but it would be my favorite.

[@GeneralArmorus]

@@clarence0 I believe you can eventually top this one

[@jsem94]

"People shouldn't think of sports as something healthy." Exactly. Been saying this for years. At least top level sports and athletics.

[@clarence0]

@@Svetty00 I meant and should have said "professional" sports.

[@jsem94]

@@Svetty00 That's what I mean too. Recreational sports is extremely healthy.

[@Chris-hz8lj]

@@Svetty00 You may have been the only person who didn’t understand what he meant.

[@heassik3088]

Recreational sports are healthy, pros are not

[@maxamillionphillipbeckett3237]

@@Svetty00 cry more... put two and two together you know what he was referring too. And you’re claims aren’t even right. High schools use dope and cheat 😂😂😂

[@ChadX]

30 minutes of Clarence? On a Friday? Looks like my birthday came early this year

[@matthewg4882]

i came early too

[@AbombOO7]

"Everybody's on steroids" -Nate Diaz

[@Moorishsultan5]

Nick

[@Project0061]

So casual

[@IvanM272]

Including him, like his teammates.

[@jaimeromero2924]

Where I’m from ppl like you get slap. -Nick Diaz

[@christianforce5511]

He's right, i'm take creatine too

[@anddudewaslike]

“This is going to be controversial video” 99% like to less than 1% dislike ratio. Nah I think we’re all on the same page here 😊

[@elhomo6406]

I mean its a very well put together verbal essay. Even if you disagree with the overall point you have to respect how well he communicated and backed up his opinion.

[@maxpowers4436]

Bootlickers more like, its all well and good to point out the flaws. But its only substantial if you can provide a solution. Reminds me of staunch criticizers of capitalism, with its hundreds of flaws but when its comes down to it they dont know or have and answer to fix it.

[@elhomo6406]

@@maxpowers4436 except he did provide a "solution". With the current state of anti doping, it would be better to simply not enforce it and instead adopt a system similar to how drugs are treated in Amsterdam allowing for a safer, more controlled environment. This isn't remotely similar to critics of capitalism, this isn't nearly as consequential.

[@elhomo6406]

@@maxpowers4436 there is no concrete solution to the problem and having no anti doping isn't exactly ideal, however in the current state of anti doping it would be far better if it just didn't exist.

[@saversaan777]

Sorry but its currently at 18000/219 which is 98.79% to 1.21% like to dislike ratio. We are not all on the same page.

[@kolosals]

The saddest part of this video is the fact it clearly reflects Clarence's own disappointment in the dream, especially as he reflects on his youth. Almost sounds like death of spirit.

[@manofgod7622]

Part of me died when I’ve found out that my favourite athletes like C. Ronaldo or Usain Bolt take steroids. It felt very similar like when I’ve lost faith in god

[@brunosabrito2]

@@manofgod7622 wtf

[@cartoonhanks1708]

@@manofgod7622 Yeah, there are a handful of amazing natural athletes. Many of which are 1930s boxers, and the world record Javelinist. Some gymnasts. Honestly 1950s> is mostly doping.

[@corrmick]

@@manofgod7622 you’re just overly cynical! It’s painful for you I’m sure and I hope you get some faith back. Not all; not even most top athletes dope outside weightlifting, by far the most corrupt sport on earth. I doubt Lasha dopes and he’s the best of all time, so even weightlifting is capable of change and has cleaned up significantly with the biological passport program. It’ll still either go through a cycling-esque reformation or die off in the next two decades.

[@matthewmckee6289]

@@corrmick i’m sorry what, are you trolling? Lasha has literally been popped before. He literally got popped, then added 80kg to his total in like 2 years despite having already been lifting for his whole life. Out of all the athletes you could have said you didn’t think dope, you picked the single athlete who has absolutely smashed recent weightlifting records out of the park and is so far ahead no one can even touch him. You seriously think he’s clean? He’s probably one of the most juiced lifters on the platform right now.

[@Hellshot773]

Im close to 8 years lifting weights and like you as a kid, I was brainwashed thinking that elite level athletes were clean. Watching what effort, discipline, perseverance and sacrifice could achieve was beyond incredible. But just having the idea that they "cheated" would destroy this dream. I still feel the same way about top tier athletes, I still admire them and find them as a source of inspiration. The difference is that now I know that the body and mind can only do so much, and that is fine.

[@georgereynolds338]

this is one of the most important videos in the last decade of fitness videos

[@Justin-ph6rx]

Denmark and Belgium randomly drug test people in commercial gyms?! what the heck... 😂 that is the most shocking statement in the video

[@erikjohansson4999]

Same in Sweden

[@FK-we1dp]

That’s absurd

[@aidancone5226]

@Jesse Hoffman he’s not saying it’s fine, he’s saying as a result of Anti-Doping people are forced to dope to get on par with those who live in countries that have been doping since 12 years old. He even said he wished nobody would dope

[@HaloDude557]

Thank God for the 4th amendment

[@HaloDude557]

Jesse Hoffman it’s not cheating if it’s your hobby and you just want to exceed your physical limitations...

[@fritzfxx]

I always forget how Irish he is until he says the number "tree". Beautiful

[@jicudi]

This is basically a college paper + international sports competition history lesson regarding PED's.

[@Jotaromilktea]

I can see why he’s going to college, to make videos like these. Hope he knocked out two birds with one stone and turned in for a research paper

[@ChinkRoy]

@@Jotaromilktea Straight up; What higher education offers is the ability to research. They teach you how to research, they teach you how to write as it pertains to the research which you have done. However, research is the key - the credentials are only the ability to regurgitate information; the ability to teach yourself and apply knowledge you have acquired is the true take away

[@corentind3379]

No it's not.

[@brianmccormack3621]

Doctorate level thesis

[@living4adrenaline]

He has a PhD in doping now

[@adashudfr]

Hafthor Bjornsson: “Quick - I need to pass this drug test - find me a Doppelgänger” Doctor: Umm...

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheritrix5733]

For real

[@TheGorgojolaEffect]

He scheduled an exhibition match with Eddie's Doppelganger though....

[@ElPeejerino]

They don't drugs test the WSM or (most) other strongman competitions. No Doppelgänger required.

[@lonewolf604]

Peter Dinklage: Hi Doc I'm here for my urine test.

[@ThomasShatter]

@@ElPeejerino Well... They do "test" but only for recreational drugs so... xD

[@Safari_Guide]

The world record in men's shotput was set by a man that failed a drug test only a few months after, but his record wasn't stripped. There are tons of examples of this in track and field with many athletes having failed tests covered up at Olympic trials.

[@oisinofthefianna3246]

Rich national organizations can afford to pay compensation for failed tests. This is why Lance Armstrong won in spite of failed tests. Compare his treatment to Karem Gaber, the great Egyptian Greco-Roman wrestler. Because of a "whereabout failure" Gaber was suspended for two years by UWW; I guess the Egyptian federation didn't have enough cash to make it go away.

[@awmlawoffice]

I find it hilarious that some of my friend's will say "I can't stand weightlifting, sprinting or even powerlifting or strongman...it is all about drugs." Then in the same conversation ask me if I watched last week's Falcons or Steelers game. Obviously, no one in the NFL, MLB or NBA uses PEDS. I mean they "test their athletes".

[@rafaelrandom500]

2 meters and looks like a bodybuilder but all natty bro ! 😏

[@jaggeriscoughmedicine]

NBA is the one i cannot find evidence of them using steroids. Like they are extra tall,work insane amounts of hours and still look buff. Something doesn't add up. Of course they don't have big backs or legs but still. HGH although is a valid one

[@manofgod7622]

@@jaggeriscoughmedicine NBA players work insanelly hard. They need something to prevent overtraining, something to increase endurance, and something that will increase their tendon strength, because if you wanna jump higher during a run you need strong achilles tendon. My guess is they take TRT to prevent overtraining, EPO to improve endurance and recovery, and HGH with corticosteroid to increase tendon strength and prevent tendon injury, because TRT increases risk of tendon fracture. Basketball is not that much different from other team sports like football or something, they take pretty much the same drugs

[@giannibowling6725]

@@manofgod7622 they also take peptides to help out their overall shape

[@justina9914]

@@manofgod7622 how does testosterone prevent overtraining?

[@PortlandSawMill]

I spent some time in the sport of weightlifting .. been to a few worlds, euros .. Myself and my circle of ex lifting friends share everything you said in your video .. We’ve seen this shit up close and personal .. Its a frustrating BULLSHIT scenario that only you dare talk about. So fair play Clarence . You’ve just achieved AAA Legend Status 👍🏽

[@hansheinerkohlhoff7607]

what about german weightlifters? they seem doping free but dominate the c&j in the euros

[@hansheinerkohlhoff7607]

@@maricebrown8961 why do i need to explain this? there are no signs that Max Lang or Jon Luke Mau take peds

[@woffe8094]

@@hansheinerkohlhoff7607 i sense a national bias.

[@hansheinerkohlhoff7607]

Jon Luke Mau was my boyfriend. Further i trained with him together. This guy is as natty as it gets!

[@MrVanhoden]

@@hansheinerkohlhoff7607 ich will ihm nichts unterstellen, aber habt ihr zusammen gewohnt? Der Umstand, dass du seine Freundin warst hat ja mit natty oder nicht erstmal nichts zu tun. Grundsätzlich kann man selbst der Partnerin fast alles verheimlichen.

[@GurneroMaelstrom]

Huge mad respect to Clarence. Rarely people talk about this. I'm tired of the brainwashed masses respecting the corrupted industry of the Olympic institutions, and fitness. It's all hypocritical and ruins many people's lives

[@alexhoffmann3002]

'This is definitely going to a controversial video' 200:1 like to dislike ratio. Preach it Clarence!

[@vladanr74]

But we are fairly educated bunch. At least in this area.

[@FlyTour69]

It’s a crying shame Gabriel was robbed of his Bronze medal.

[@papuhdave9643]

Yup and they want us to think tao or lu are clean LMAO

[@james100kg6]

I agree. Let us not forget the way anti doping utterly crucified Ilya. I believe he would’ve continued into undisputed goat status had things been different.

[@GilBatesLovesyou]

​@@james100kg6 What's ultimately the point of that, though? Ilya gets to be GOAT while Bedzhanyan doesn't because Russia and US have bad relations, while Ilya was balding at 15 from blasting drugs and gets to stand in front of WADA Clean Sport signs? Even on the Kaz team, there were multiple people in pissing distance of Ilya who also popped, like Vladimir Sedov, Zhassulan Kydyrbaev, Almas Uteshov, and of course when Ilya was a 105, Alexander Zaichkov, who got sent to Worlds as they thought Ilya had no chance of passing tests. Ilya spoke in the past of getting the President of Kazakhstan (not the federation president, the actual President) to intervene with him in team matters so he was obviously politically favored enough that he got to do what he needed to do to get to where he got. While I feel sad as Ilya seems like a kind and very personable guy, he got the opportunities even his teammates didn't get from the corruption. The corruption didn't just take away opportunities from a Clarence Kennedy or a Donny Shankle in a Western country who arguably could make better money doing something else (or as Clarence already is making money doing what he does now) but he took food off the table of other athletes on his own team from the corruption.

[@olli77hajnal]

it's a crying shame if he'll ever get to compete again.

[@RobLipsett]

Incredible video man

[@clarence0]

thanks rob!

[@WeightliftingHouse]

There are few things I am more interested in than this topic. Looking forward to hearing your reasoned opinion.

[@scottessery100]

having watched it seb .... what do you think?......

[@WeightliftingHouse]

@@scottessery100 I'm going to spend some time collating my thoughts and then I'll respond properly. I think he has thought it all through more than many of the 'all dopers are bad' type people

[@oskarrask9413]

@@WeightliftingHouse will you make a video on this?

[@WeightliftingHouse]

@@oskarrask9413 I will

[@matwinner9708]

I agree Clarence; it's a corrupt system!

[@Lolp821]

Some would be all for corrupt systems, just an opinion

[@petecabrina]

I don't think it is corrupt, more about the public's inability and societies inability to face a harsh reality, along with probably a well intended attempt to try to fix a problem which is not fixable.

[@matwinner9708]

@@petecabrina kind of a description of corruption, no?

[@petecabrina]

@@matwinner9708 I think deliberate corruption and denial are two different things. Even the drug testing agencies are probably mostly in denial still and unable to accept the realities of the situation. Humans are simply great at denial and pretending situations are better than they are, sometimes it can be just bullshiting/corruption but others they actually believe it.

[@markchorny7607]

I have a feeling this video is far more important than we know.

[@lonewolf604]

Repeat after me: CLARENCE DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF

[@FlyTour69]

🤣

[@denzel9455]

😂

[@Menaceblue3]

*[News headline]* "Clarence Kennedy, famous Irish weightlifter and youtuber, was found dead in his home under a loaded barbell. Friends and family state that he was having suicidal tendencies after uploading informational videos about steroids in professional sports."

[@bg2junge]

As long as he doesn't end up in an American federal prison.

[@LuisCruz0138]

FACTS!!

[@chief5002]

Shoutout to how Flojo* still holds the women’s world records in the 100 and 200m dash despite clearly being on drugs

[@kaisersion7003]

she almost had a beard didnt she haha

[@chief5002]

@@kaisersion7003 her voice dropped like 4 octaves in interviews and she dropped a half second in the 100m in a season which is absurd for an elite level athlete

[@manofgod7622]

Forget Jojo, look at Jarmila Kratochvilova, that’s a whole new level.

[@AerinQQ]

@@manofgod7622 And Marita Koch 400m record...like no1 has even come close to this in the last 30 years.

[@bardscape]

Many women have attempted to break her world records, with many of them being even more doped than she was. Look up videos explaining her pacing and form as those are the reasons they've been untouched. She was maybe the most technically perfect sprinter ever up there with Michael Johnson.

[@chrisroman4312]

You really turned me around on this. I was in the "ignorant about anti-doping" camp, and felt that anti-doping was a means to level the playing field. It doesn't take long to realize that it's a thin and ineffective means of appeasing some individuals without actually solving any problems.

[@SimonLi]

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[@Mr___f]

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[@tian_ht]

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[@SomeoneOnceBefore]

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[@davecom3]

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[@VerticalSh0ck]

This video really opened up my eyes. I used to think that athletes caught on doping tests were cheaters, but actually everyone is cheating, some get caught and others dont, thanks Clarence

[@geekstomper5562]

that 16 year old kid u see deadlifting 700 pounds on instagram is totaly natty bro. he just eat higher quality chicken and rice, is key to victory!

[@Deenuhhh]

Consistent 1 gallon of water a day!!!

[@AleksanteriR]

Dont forget nofap too

[@Buttsorcerer]

So you’re telling me, all these youtubers that bench over 405 and claim natural are lying? I’m shocked, flabbergasted even

[@eskay6666]

@@Buttsorcerer i mean i can bench 365 as a natty and am still making strength gains. 405 is by no means a lift that in itself indicates PED use

[@mensaswede4028]

@@eskay6666 That’s not the point. The point is that the vast majority of people who show off their ability to bench 400+ pounds on KZbin are on PEDs. Can a genetically gifted person bench 400 without the PEDs? Yes. Are the KZbinrs that Buttsorcerer is referring to in that genetically gifted category? Most of them are not.

[@ThatsControversial]

Clarence you’re so based, thank you for existing

[@wilmerstall3933]

He is PLANT based

[@hhfbko]

Based Pakistani

[@laughterman805]

What good is a persons thanks and reverence when they are lazy AF

[@supernoodles908]

I was an international level swimmer for years when I was younger 14-18 I got in an international final once. I never took PEDs and refused to as a result I got left behind

[@full-timepog6844]

Rip. Do u still swim?

[@supernoodles908]

@@full-timepog6844 nah, I got an injury when I was 19 and had to stop. I'm now a rower for fun :) You can definitely reach national level and even international clean but to win an international comp is very difficult

[@Libtardo123]

@@supernoodles908 when I swam in high school, there was a kid who always got lapped and was in terrible shape. During meets he was several seconds slower than me on the 100 m. But during regionals he dropped 4 seconds and 2 years later he swam a 21 second 50 m free. He admitted he took testanterone pills

[@supernoodles908]

@@Libtardo123 21.00 for 50m free? You know the world record is like 20.91 long course?? But tbf if it's a 21 high on short, that's doable. People that come to mine are Duncan Scott or Benjamin Proud but they've been rapid for years I was a 100m back swimmer mostly and I know a couple of people on the team that were taking test. It was really really tempting. Don't get me wrong, they worked hard but it would have been nice to get the boost

[@Libtardo123]

@@supernoodles908 I think it was a 21 high on a short course. The thing was he got injured 3 times during the season and skipped a lot of sets. I am not at your level but I was able to get to 23.10 on the 50m and a 53.10 on the 100 m

[@Tucker0]

As a young (22 years old) competitive weightlifter from the UK, this really spoke to me on a personal level. Such a interesting & hard to rebut perspective! I am in deep thought, thank you Clarence amazing & interesting video.

[@ArminEghdamiDrums]

Nothing about professional sports is healthy or natural. The drug testing system is absolutely ridiculous.

[@ashleigh3021]

Then just increase the length of bans and size of fines, it’s not hard.

[@ArminEghdamiDrums]

@@ashleigh3021 if noone gets caught what is the use in that?

[@hungryorphan5975]

@@ashleigh3021 doesnt make sense

[@desfhtdsf]

@@hungryorphan5975 looks like we found the WADA plant. Commenting on every post thats pro drug/ anti antidoping

[@ashleigh3021]

@@ArminEghdamiDrums People do get caught though. And it improves the incentive not to use. Everyone else involved in the chain of events should also be given extremely heavy fines or prosecuted (i.e. literally everyone from suppliers of the drugs, to coaches, team-mates etc). Watch usage go through the fucking floor when you ban a national team for one persons usage. Giving people some sort of monetary incentive to report users would also help massively.

[@Slatterin]

This was so well made , I felt like this was a documentary

[@Yellow.1844]

Dr.Clarence on Netflix

[@tuxmode]

Because it is in itself a documentary.

[@HomageBeats]

genius video clarence, thank you for talking about this.

[@devynstroshine8817]

@Lum inosity Huh? He's openly stated he's not natty before. This isn't his secret coming out video.

[@lawrencelim9331]

DEREK THIS IS CONTENT

[@davecom3]

He'll continue to churn out vids that are overlong for that tasty ad revenue. I dont think I've seen a channel drop in quality so quickly

[@manu3939393]

@@davecom3 Somewhat true. I can't watch Greg Doucette and I only watch Derek because I like him. Most of the content made by channels that make a video a day are bland as fuck and you don't learn anything from them

[@absolutewanker9384]

@@davecom3 First Greg plummeted , became a snake oils salesman that has some really stupid takes. Derek seems to be following . At least Derek still has some good videos.

[@megasmashxD]

I can already hear his delts fibers contracting

[@apathak34]

Derek talks in circles and takes too long to get to the fucking point

[@bondymagnomous3544]

This should go viral. Amazing video Clarence.

[@Tom-vu1wr]

It will slap the algorithm in the face unless yt doesn't like the message

[@JohnSmith-om3dk]

Even if PEDs never existed, top level professional sports still wouldn't be fair. It would just be about who can pour more money into specimens to make them as strong as possible and then flex their creations for the rest of the world. 100% agree about educating kids about the dangers of top level athletics. Tell them how the athletes are tools that get used until they're broken and then discarded. Teach them that sports can make you happy in more ways than just being #1. That staying healthy can help you enjoy activities you live for your whole life.

[@luckylollermodmaster6283]

I dissagree

[@Clueless41]

Thats literally the point. We're trying to see who's the strongest without drugs.

[@thebkstank2095]

Lol the footage for Ireland was a guy from Kerry who was completely incomprehensible

[@matmul4850]

Right. I seen that too 😂😂😂😂

[@ubermenschbrent]

Clarence just casually dropping the Zeitgeist of the Weightlifting community 🤜

[@thegrinderman1090]

This is more like a scientific review of the biggest open secret in sport. Zeitgeist is conspiracy theories supported by underwhelming evidence and full of errors.

[@Gushick]

i love how "official" weightlifting olympian community just ignoring the fact, that there is a guy who did a nearly world record total in commercial gym.

[@JayMoonify]

@@thegrinderman1090 half of zeitgeist is true. The 9/11 part is.

[@borgusmaximus]

You used the non-understandable irish farmer as a reference video while talking about the irish, fn gold man!

[@evanhoyt6282]

Alright I’ll catch you guys later in the afternoon when Derek posts his reaction 🙋🏻‍♂️

[@bonkersdonkers7381]

Lol, see u there

[@paulthy2844]

me too

[@jowo__]

it seems we are reaching the arc in the Clarence anime where all the secrets of the anime are being revealed

[@Sealed_Chamber]

Lmao well said.

[@castlecallahan1769]

As a track and field athlete this really opened my eyes and I'll have to do a lot more research on doping within my sport. Makes me a bit sad but I'd rather be informed about the reality of it than blissfully ignorant

[@jmarth523]

Good luck on your newfound PED use!

[@castlecallahan1769]

@@jmarth523 lol. Nah, I'd rather be natty and not extremely fast than take steroids to push my body to an unnatural extreme.

[@unomacaron1076]

Dereks reaction vid to this is gonna be like two hours long 😭

[@chanthao1060]

And I will sit through it at 1.5x video speed

[@tamaninesauc]

@@chanthao1060 do you reckon he decreases the playback speed by like 5% so it lengthens the video yet is basically undetectable?

[@daleflynn4984]

Turns out it's only about 47 mins!

[@Sinisterg60]

I'm 37 but can remember being in high school and my wrestling coach telling that every top competitor in literally every sport was on PED's. All of them. There are networks of people employed in all college and pro sports in the US to dose and track athletes levels, then make sure they pass doping tests. In the NFL nobody likes to talk about it. Most of them are on PED's during season for recovery alone.

[@fritzfxx]

Taking juice for recovery is like taking cocaine to study. It sounds nice, but isnt the true intent.

[@username6333]

@PogChamp Because as soon as you admit you're on PEDs, you can say RIP to all your sponsorships... I guess. There are some athletes that have casually mentions that "everyone is on drugs" when talking about PEDs, and others have specifically avoided saying they are drug free and instead say they "passed all the drug tests" when talking about PEDs. IDK, I think the whole thing is ridiculous, all I know is I am definitionally getting on TRT in my 40s under a doctors supervision of course.

[@apathak34]

@@fritzfxx That comparison makes no sense. Enhancing recovery is a big reason for PED use.

[@fritzfxx]

@@apathak34 how often is someone using PED where speed, size, or strength is not an advantage? Sure, they help recovery, but if someone claims that's why they're using them, they're lying, because "I cant grow big without them" doesnt sound good, even if it's the truth. It's something people claim when they want to be lauded for their hard work.

[@apathak34]

@@fritzfxx But speed, size and stamina is an advantage in NFL. Also recovery directly effects your speed and stamina in your next game so it's all connected.

[@JohnLee-dm8jf]

Realllyyyy!!!!!! I thought some here and there did but I didn’t think most of them were taking drugs.....I really appreciate you taking the time to letting me know.....thank you!

[@mz8802]

There are still people who say: Naah Football Players arent dope because they dont look that big 🙄

[@full-timepog6844]

That makes me mad because they'd say bodybuilders are on it. Like football players' paychecks are reliant on their performance! Why won't they be on it?

[@MrDofusplayer]

I was always aware of doping in pure endurance and strength focused sports. I am still struggling to find an answer if in sports like tennis or football doping is as widespread. Knowing some professional tennis players, I would be very disappointed if they cheat secretly.

[@Joe-ki7og]

@@MrDofusplayer Dude, not trying to be rude, but all elite athletes dope to some degree. You can't have that longevity of elite performance naturally, especially when you look at someone like Nadal. The prize money and sponsorship money is so much, as well as the egos involved that they will do anything to maintain a competitive advantage. A low dose regime of testosterone injections is enough to improve performance massively, and almost impossible to detect as displayed by this video. I personally believe it takes nothing away from their achievements. Everyone at the elite stage is in the same boat regarding doping, with it being so widespread that it's not even cheating, it's just a necessary thing to partake in in order to compete at that level.

[@Chris-hz8lj]

@@MrDofusplayer Anyone at the absolute top of almost any sport is doping.

[@thegrinderman1090]

@@MrDofusplayer It is absolutely widespread at the top level. Clarence's video and documentaries such as Icarus explain how easy it is to get away with cheating, either with using undetectable substances, or paying bribes. Now despite that, here's a list of tennis players who have been CAUGHT cheating: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Doping_cases_in_tennis including John McEnroe, Richard Gasquet, Andre Agassi, Martina Hingis, Maria Sharapova... These are the ones who still couldn't beat the tests despite all the loopholes. At the top level there is so much money and prestige that people will do anything to get there. You are wrong to be disappointed in people you know for cheating, it's literally the only way to compete. Depending on the level they're at they aren't necessarily doping, but perfect genetics and rigorous training can only take you so far.

[@jessg1437]

334 dislikes are from top level athletes that get away with doping

[@hhfbko]

Exactly

[@volodyamihaelovich4576]

So succesful people?

[@anteapic8527]

@@volodyamihaelovich4576 you are the type of a guy that thinks hes cool just because he managed to kill all his friends in cod using aimbot

[@volodyamihaelovich4576]

@@anteapic8527 No, that doesn't make me get paid.

[@makaan699]

@@volodyamihaelovich4576 By those standards corrupt politicians are also succesful people and you can't criticise them because then you'd just be envious of their success. Nah, that ain't it chef, your standards are just dumb.

[@blizzard3728]

From the bottom of my heart, thanks Clarence for this research and information that you shared with us. I can feel the sadness that this has caused you and i really hope that one day the brainwash will stop.

[@abouthammertime]

Honest, intelligent, articulate, you Sir are refreshing and just the kind of person we need in the world. Good work, keep it up 💪

[@IDiggPattyMayonnaise]

The amount of corruption in just weightlifting is crazy. It literally was at every level.

[@seanseanston]

Well it's either that or don't have a sport.

[@paraglidingnut26]

A great book I read in 1984, "Death in the locker room," discussed how the majority of Olympic athletes were willing to die earlier in life just for the sake of an Olympic Medal.

[@grumpycroissant8712]

I love listening to Clarence talking. It's like a bedtime story, in the best way possible

[@blammela]

Clarence is his own brand of ASMR

[@grumpycroissant8712]

@@blammela ClarenSMR

[@culpritdesign]

17:21 Clarence says “DMT” (Joe Rogan has entered the chat)

[@Quandussy]

LMAO I lit up when I heard him say that

[@rooolllo2459]

So what

[@CraigCastanet]

This fact is what makes Clarence so heroic. He is a man among men.......sincere, humble, quiet, temperate, wise.........I think I know him.

[@selenophile410]

Damn tophat cringe

[@SjefeNoverSjef]

I personally believed most athletes in the olympics were drug free. This documentary really opened my eyes.

[@MrDofusplayer]

I was always aware of doping in pure endurance and strength focused sports. I am still struggling to find an answer if in sports like tennis or football doping is as widespread. Knowing some professional tennis players, I would be very disappointed if they cheat secretly.

[@SjefeNoverSjef]

@Censored Censored Please explain

[@unnaturalatrophy5377]

@Censored Censored sHeEp

[@sticklebacketienne]

@@MrDofusplayer Sports like F1, Tennis, football are the MOST likely to have athletes doping solely due to money. Just look at Serena Williams. How many women have you EVER seen who look even remotely like serena Williams? Professional women bodybuilders who are the most genetically gifted for building muscle in the world and use the most effective steroids available to humankind for building muscle and have been devoting their lives to building muscle for decades upon decades. Serena Williams is about the same size as most of them. It is absolutely genetically impossible to look like serena Williams without anabolic steroid use.

[@adriangodoy4610]

@@MrDofusplayer tenis is a high endurance sport. Sports that may have less doping problema are things like skateboarding, skiing, etc. Really high skill but little to no body requeriments

[@vortexdaidade]

32 minutes of high quality content.I,like many people in your channel,follows you because of your impressive feats in weightlifting and tricking,but this type of video suits you perfectly in my opinion.If possible,do more of these,and thank you!

[@VadimPakhutkin]

God, this is so good. My thoughts exactly, and it's great to hear this from an actually experienced athlete. So tired of hypocrisy. And I'm a fan of all the "dirty" lifters regardless - it just saddens me that they can't just say "yeah, I take drugs; except all my main opponents do too, so I'm still the best in the world" (Ilya, for instance). Lasha, Ilya and other greats would win on ANY playing field, PED-enhanced or perfectly clean.

[@sidmenon8470]

"It's obvious top level athletes use drugs" Greg: That's not true, they just have good GENETICS!

[@joemfahey]

Sometimes, he is an idiot

[@shadearca]

Tbf Greg also always says that way more people than you think are on steroids not only in sports but everywhere.

[@user-workingdog]

Honestly I think he says it to encourage people to not take steroids imo.

[@absolutewanker9384]

So true!

[@gankt]

Yeah I remember Phillion made a video saying that all top athletes are on PEDs and Greg made a long video saying the opposite. Greg is a moron

[@tuomask3384]

DAMN clarence entered the conversation with some facts, this was probably the most well thought out idea about the whole situation

[@andrew66769]

I'm glad there's people like you out there that are willing to speaking on these topics with respectable authority. Your kind only gets rarer and rarer over time.

[@luisdatreta]

Can't wait for More Plates More Dates to react to this video!

[@atg_stickman6716]

This was really well put together, Clarence probably aced every PowerPoint presentation in school

[@mapleknot3]

You've really opened my eyes to the reality of PED use. Well researched and well done.

[@Astrokidd69]

The man of few words, the man who didn’t speak, was still heard around the world.

[@JinnDante]

Was not expecting this type of video from Clarence for sure. It is interesting to tackle these topics being yourself in this sport for more than a decade. Especially since we are used of seeing you just lift insane numbers. Keep doing those.

[@peanutz972]

Great video! In Denmark, I just want to point out, it's optional for commercial gyms to cooperate with the organization "Anti Doping Denmark", and thereby, be subject to random drug tests of the gym members. The particular gym sign, showed at 6:38, says "We do not cooperate with Anti Doping Denmark", and therefore, random drug tests will not accur at that gym. The gyms pay a small yearly fee, if they want to cooperate with "Anti Doping Denmark". Cooperation with Anti Doping Denmark is pretty widespread among the larger chain gyms though. I just wanted to share this small datail for those interested.

[@melvinschilder6946]

Christ, this video is so well researched and so clear. Kudos to you, Clarence!

[@plantybara]

From internet lifting meme to Sundance Film Festival worthy documentary- nice Clarence.

[@ZJ9242]

Thank you for this video. Agree with everything except your conclusion. I feel like we should still encourage kids to follow their dreams, but obviously tell them truth of the situation in elite athletics. Competition is a good thing as a kid, regardless of the doping problems in elite level athletics. And to discourage them completely away from competition in sport could take away valuable lessons like discipline, hard work, commitment, passion, consistency, etc. While they can learn these same lessons in other areas, for me personally, I learnt them through sport. Anyways, thanks again for the well done video.

[@henry7001]

This is actually a REALLY well made video, good job Clarence!

[@mvyper]

It's the non plus ultra of hypocrisy. Those guys are all juiced up their arses. The heads that roll are just those that are sentenced to.

[@kh-wg9bt]

My girlfriend was shocked when I said arnie 100% used lots of steroids. Lol! This video is top class. Been following you for many years and never seen you produce anything like this. Respect.

[@kaylinpillay2313]

9:38" some athletes shorten their lifespan "then its cuts to Brian Shaw eating food hehe lols

[@manumaster1990]

Of course 🤷

[@CrouchingGrandpa]

If you weigh 400lbs you'll die younger regardless of your body composition.

[@gaby9009]

Brian also uses a massive amount of drugs...

[@EtienneYT]

I've been waiting for this video forever now. I can't wait to watch this.

[@LucaGas]

Bro wtf i would have never expected to see you here ahahaha

[@rot.eyesore2473]

Yo etienne ??

[@noobcayk]

worlds fastest gamer pog

[@braedensmith7625]

That's why I think trying to become a top level athlete that competes internationally is a fruitless venture because there will ALWAYS be someone out there that will out dope you and take bigger risks in order to become the best of the best. For the 99.5% of people out there, just be happy with the small achievements that you make in the gym, you don't have to be the best in order to live a healthy/ fulfilling lifestyle.

[@Omar-tt4fd]

I was just gonna say that weightlifting was way more better 5 years ago then i saw Ilya hitting a WR at the beginning. I miss these days

[@finncoyle8508]

Its sort of like the authorities are saying "cheat, but follow these rules when you're doing it".

[@5zazen]

bingo.

[@HkFinn83]

Depending on the country you’re from

[@OJayOG]

This video was so good I finished it in its entirety, took off my ad block, refreshed the page and left my pc running. You deserve the 0.1p KZbin will give you for my view.

[@YaMbIc]

Could some Netflix guy please contact Clarence and ask him to produce a documentary on this so that more people can hear what he‘s saying?

[@manu3939393]

Netflix documentaries have no credibility whatsoever. Better not to associate with them

[@tappajaav]

@@manu3939393 So good to have change to the usual pace?

[@manu3939393]

@@tappajaav What?

[@tappajaav]

@@manu3939393 If they have no credibility whatsoever wouldn't it be nice to have credible one mixed in?

[@manu3939393]

@@tappajaav No, because they will never care to get good information, only views/exposure, eg. see the Gamechangers documentary. It'll just water down what Clarence is saying.

[@Kenny02120]

i’ll provide a story and an anecdote during my 10 years in the Olympic sport Sprint Canoeing: I have competed at various World Championships and as i’m lining up on the start line, i will look left and right sometimes to see my competition. when i see a russian, belarusian, ukrainian, romanian, etc next to me, i always shake my head on the inside, because i know that they are more likely than not using anabolics. i have a ton of story’s about talking to my competitors over the years and doping. one that is burned into my head was at the Junior World Championships. we shared the same hotel as the russians and it’s often you hang out/party with the other countries after the races were over. i remember being invited into this russian’s room, and i was jaw dropped with what i saw. easily 50-100 bottles for pills were on every surface of the room. bedside table, TV stand, bathroom counter, window sill, cabinet, desk, etc. And there on the bed, i see two coveted medals - a gold and bronze. Back then i was just shocked, but now i realize the intricacies of using supplements and drugs to mask the illegal anabolics to avoid a positive result. this was just one story, and i have many more about romanians, ukrainians, hungarians, etc. that said, countries that i have found to be very clean and good anti doping protocols are germany, the USA, canada, denmark, sweden, belgium, and great britain.

[@angrygoldfish]

This was an incredible video Clarence. I learned a great deal and am grateful for all the effort you put into it. I think everyone who's passionate about high level sport should watch this video.

[@emin4704]

I was aware of most top-level athletes using drugs for a couple years now, but damn, not to this degree. I learned something new today, and wouldn't mind watching more vids like this 😤👍

[@Zahed9327]

Ill leave my grain of salt. I was an Olympic weight lifter for one of most prestigious universities in Mexico city. The coach got to panamerican podiums he was really good, trained with the Russians and the Cubans mainly. I started when I was 16. There were other even 14 and 15 year old. Test use is pushed since the beginning in most cases, it's ridiculous. But it was rare that someone trained there for more than 3 months without starting to inject themselves. 250 m g of test a week. They played on that dose almost all season which was about 9 months. More advanced athletes would pyrimd the way up to up to 750 m g a week. Our coach used to say how when he was in Russia they even injected with up to 1ml a day! Dianabol stanozolol, and all the other steroids were NOT rare. Literally everyday thing, you would walk to your training session and see the guys pinning right there in the "lifting hall" . I was thrown out eventually after refusing to pin myself! Even tho I lifted more than half the juiced guys. The crazy thing is they all competed in things like pan ams and world's... got medals and all while being "tested" I had some kind of moral and health worry issue with it. And it was crazy to watch it all from the inside. How normal and actually encouraged it is.

[@Zahed9327]

Also crazy extra fact, 4 months after y was thrown out, our coach passed away because of a heart attack, can say if it was steroids or the overweight, he used to weigh 405lbs when he competed. And he definitely wasn't in shape after retirement....

[@Zahed9327]

@PogChamp we are almost all coaches now, there was one guy who did end up going to rehab because of drug use i do remember he had a really explosive personality and was one of the ones who pushed ped use the hardest. Great lifter, one of the best.

[@1baby]

@@Zahed9327 interesting comment and aligns with what I’ve been told regarding drug use in different sports too. If you don’t mind me asking do you know what type of testosterone or injection frequency was being used, if other injectables were being used and if there was an oral drug of choice, and lastly whether there were any safety measures in place for the athletes (blood pressure drugs, echocardiograms, blood work)? I find it exciting to hear about how much drug use differs between sports and countries.

[@afafadsbbrs5503]

¿Eres de la UNAM?

[@Zahed9327]

@@1baby yes the test used was a really cheap and famous test overhere, you can buy testoterone over the counter here. So the most common was a mix of 200 mg test enantate and 50 mg propionate. You can also get Bayer and sostenon 250. They really could care less about the type of test. It was almost always weekly injections. Eq was also used. Winstrol, deca pretty much everything they could get their hands on, & I mean it I remember once in the "lockers" this was one of the skiniest guys he was pinning test, winstrol and eq. And taking anavar and dbol orally I couldn't really understand how he ws so small taking all that stuff, he obviously didn't eat much... No kind of health test or measurements were taken AT ALL. No lab work or anything like that, was just like hoping on whey protein haha this was at college level I'm sure once you make the national team they start to monitor your health in other ways

[@brainiacRo]

this video is golden... saved it, shared it, learned it.