Why I'm at War with Sims 4 girlies | PARALIVES

[@yee8332]

I did the math. Over 120,000 people have wishlisted the game on Steam. A common indie game price is $20, but they could go higher than that. Based on the wishlist numbers (they asked people to wishlist the game if they'd ever be interested in buying it), they will have gross sales of at least $2,400,000, which is more than enough to pay a team of their size for long enough to make some great free DLC. Being realistic, they'll easily sell more than 120,000 at launch if it's a good game due to the hype and lack of options in the market. Not to mention with games that make all free updates and DLC, game sales increase when a really good or big update comes out. To emphasize that last part, even Minecraft, most sold game of all time, still sees a significant increase in sales (not including Bedrock's microtransactions) when a great update comes out. The Paralives team has NO damn reason to worry about only having free updates instead of putting out hundreds of dollars in DLC. Anyone familiar with games outside of the Sims would know this.

[@AdamantGremlin]

If it was really solid and we got free content update, I'd pay 60-70. I'd rather have a higher upfront cost than 10 years of content roll out to half a grand.

[@VannaMae]

Well there's people like me that don't have it on their wishlist and will be buying the early access. So there's probably a ton of people that are not accounted for.

[@powerpill]

wonder how many of those wishlist are patreons

[@oceanegougeon3025]

I agree with a lot of your point, but we also have to keep in mind that Steam will take a cut from each sale, and they will have to pay taxes. That being said, I still think it's a totally sound financial decision, and I trust them to have researched their options thoroughly.

[@pizzaroneee]

Thiss!!! minecraft is a good example, all minecraft (at least java) update is free!! and you have the game forever

[@MayLina]

I 100% agree with you. People sholuld understand 👏Sims 4👏is👏a👏plague,👏not👏a👏standard👏

[@paulaseidl2108]

same I stop play sims4 boring game

[@aquaabouttogetfunky]

Agreed. And they act like they are right. They are brainwashed.

[@blueblack3591]

I have to be honest i was worried as well. Just for the fact that they announced it. What if they cant follow up on it? I hope it works out i am looking forward to this game

[@kld6]

I have no problem with paid or free dlc, but the fact people think its normal to have a truck ton of dlc or microtransactions might need to take a step back from gaming in general. 😅

[@steggopotamus]

The only reason why I want paralives to have extra paid anything (DLC or cosmetics) is so I can throw more money at it while EA watches.

[@angelicgalaxy4534]

Same ​@@steggopotamus

[@noriii]

@@steggopotamussame but i hope it’s the usual indie dlc like just more cosmetics or basically just stuff that you don’t *need*

[@steggopotamus]

@@noriii i agree

[@kittenchristmas4194]

I think the people who find the Sims 4 dlc model normal are probably people who were: A) Introduced to the Sims by the Sims 4 and have no previous experience with the franchise. Or B) Have little or no previous gaming experience so they don't have the knowledge to know what gaming practices are predatory and what aren't.

[@evest7829]

I keep saying the Sims community REALLY needs to get out there and play others games (I know some do, but a large portion doesn't) - maybe then they'd finally see how bad EA is ripping them off. I genuinely think they have no idea how bad it actually is because they have nothing to compare it to.

[@fransmith3255]

Exactly!

[@ivlisu2080]

I think the sims 4 diehard stans are eager to see this game flop so they can feel they are right about the sims 4 but the thing is... they aren't. Their delulu is not going to become trululu

[@NotMalcolm]

couldn’t have said it better!

[@eloeden2056]

Trululu lmaooo

[@tailsprowerfan2729]

Sims 1 2 and 3 is better then 4 even the Sims console version of 1 and 2 and 3 is better then 4

[@parrot998]

​@@tailsprowerfan2729But is The Urbz for Xbox PS2 and Gamecube better than 4? Or The Sims 2 Pets for GBA? Those are the final bosses.

[@emirys9790]

I was also pretty skeptical about the 100% free expansion announcement until someone pointed out the fact that Stardew Valley, an indie game that started out with just Barone and Barone alone for four straight years, has been shelling out new updates and free expansions since the games initial release in 2016. Now obviously Stardew Valley and Paralives are two very different games with two very different workloads...However, if Stardew Valley was able to accomplish this, I'd like to believe that Paralives can as well.

[@MmmmmSpamMusubi]

Don’t forget No Man’s Sky as well! Made by indie developers and waa really bad at launch, but kept giving free dlcs and updates to improve and its now become one of the best space sim games out there. Sims 4 girlies are really looking a gift at a horse’s mouth.

[@fransmith3255]

And most games on Steam are standalone without DLC... DLC is not the norm. The norm is NOT to require DLC.

[@bunniixbee]

Someone needs to sit the ts4 girlies down and explain that *FREE* updates are better than spending 2k on a free game just to add more bugs and half the content previous games had

[@meltedprincess]

Is it next year yet? Call me Spongebob cause I'm ready.

[@jhy8212]

Lol I'm so using this phrase in my real life from now on. 😂😂

[@meltedprincess]

@@jhy8212 Hehehhe 🖤😁

[@Aleals7777]

I think they disguise feeling threatened by being “concerned”. They feel threatened because their mediocre game has real completion now

[@GenericUsername1388]

Imagine still being loyal to Sims 4 in 2024 💀

[@NotMalcolm]

Ts4 Stans are riding 10mph on the back of EA’s scooter headed straight toward a cliff and then still wont get off

[@Ghs6]

I still play it but i dont pay a single penny for any of the dlc, thanks pirates

[@Flooffy]

I can't help it. I just don't understand previous The Sims games. They seem so weird for me... I just play TS4, but I pirate it

[@kendalroyco]

finally someone said it, ive been fighting w ppl in comments constantly that theyre brainwashed by ea and similar companies. theres plenty of games out there that do and are still doing amazing without any paid dlc, hell even back in the day youd just buy a game and that was that. also considering sims and other coming out competitors have and will have paid dlc its a smart move to make a game without any. it puts them above the other games and will automatically garner more players. also piracy is a thing and when a game becomes too much like sims 4 half the player base has it pirated. but if u only have to pay once a lot of ppl wont pirate and even if they do they might buy a legit copy in the future (the way ppl have done w stardew valley because the game is amazing and they felt guilty)

[@jasmina-bina]

My favorite game is Stardew Valley and I have bought the game on many different platforms. The dev always goes over and beyond to expand the current game and is highly successful at it. It can totally happen with Paralives! I don't know why some people are so hesitant about this type of model. It's an indie game, first and foremost.

[@oceanegougeon3025]

I also bought the game on several platforms, and gladly so! I thought to myself "oh I want to play on mobile as well, I have to buy it again... No problem, because this game is amazing and the dev deserves it!"

[@ShadyMilksYoutube]

i keep seeing people bring up stardew valley but not the fact that it was made by 1 guy who put almost no money into its development

[@wojciechostrowicz]

The more I work in the game dev, the more I realize that there is something fantastic going on in the industry right now. It's how making a game starts being super accessible to many, so just making a game is not enough anymore. There was a moment, when games stopped being born from passion and started being mass-produced (ahem, the sims 4) and I think now we are ✨healing✨

[@jhy8212]

Lol Everytime I make a comment anywhere on the Internet about Sims 4 being less than other entries the Stans always come for me. Oh, to be young and have Mom's money again.

[@kryw10]

I never thought about it this way before but yeah. It seems like more people are complaining now that they’re old enough to have to pay for it themselves. I’m an old, so it was always coming out of my pocket and Sims 4 isn’t a quarter of the game Sims 2 is.

[@jhy8212]

@@kryw10 I'm an old too, and that factors into a lot for me. I don't want to pay for...horses in its own pack when I can play horses AND cats AND dogs AND small pets in 3. (that's just the first example that came to mind). And personally I just enjoy Sims 3 more. That's not to say I haven't touched 4, and dislike just play devil's advocate. I've dumped about 1200 hours into 4. There are things about 4 I enjoy, but the predatory dlc is too much.

[@kryw10]

@@jhy8212 I would absolutely play sims 3 if I had a machine that could run it. But I’m very much over EA’s Sims at this point and ready to see what else is possible.

[@nedrane297]

I am so very excited for Sims 4 to have a couple serious rivals. Life By You and Paralives both look AWESOME and I expect to probably get both. Now, I had abandoned sims 4, metaphorically since I still own it, and gone back to Sims 3 and recently been playing Sims 1 and I am having so very much fun. Honestly, I've stopped watching most sims 4 youtubers because very few of them acknowledge the problems they had with an expansion during their early access to it, or just in like 30 seconds at the end of a 30 minute video where they gushed over it basically negating those problems. Worse lately a certain youtuber who's name begins with L and ends with sie, was saying about past packs she seriously gushed over but now says was never good. Most have become EA shills. I've been watching smaller youtube creators that play all the games and acknowledge the problems with all of them. Because they are there, we know they are there, for any of them to pretend they are not is gaslighting. So I watch you and a few others that just enjoy the game and don't shill for Sims 4.

[@_The.Queen.In.Pink_]

That's why I watch SatchOnSims, he actually calls out the issues with the packs, having a whole series of videos reviewing them, and saying what they do wrong and what they don't and what they could do better, I may not agree with everything he says, but it's still a refreshing sight from the usual toxic positivity of simmers.

[@nedrane297]

@@_The.Queen.In.Pink_ Exactly! Love Satch!

[@LimitedByThem]

I really feel like Paralives is gonna heal me from the Sims 4/EA trauma..😅 I'm so excited for it!

[@westanimesims]

I for one had "concerns" on how are they going to make money with free DLC after selling the base game. Then I think about they are alternatives to earn money WITHOUT microtransactions (keeping Patreon up for example) and having less people to pay for, I guess the base game sales is enough for them. Still, I am rooting for Paralives to succeed. This war with the Sims 4 stans is a fun one in the life simulation genre.

[@qetsiyah1766]

The same way Minecraft has made money.

[@mayaha200]

how did stardew make money even today? It's simple people love it and they love the free updates! The creator still earns a lot from this game with nooo paid dlc Yeas shocking I know😂

[@SimandSassy]

Those YT Sims4 girlies…. All EA creator network 😂😂😂 All paid employees of EA -- EA has the power of social media on their hands with "influencers" to put Paralives down.

[@jayjay5485]

Truly, I'm rooting for Paralives' success, if only to shut up the naysayers and those that say it's gonna crash and burn. It's mind boggling really.

[@Lovlyb35]

I said the same. Some simmers are just lost to believe that it have to have paid DLC. Tbh, thats just how EA has condition and indoctrinated their minds. Im happy Paralives is doing it free and I celebrate it, I think the game will do very well.

[@Sirensscales]

After years of unfortunately giving Ea all my money honestly I’ve forgotten how it feels like to be treated nicely,thank you truly Paralives

[@thenewell4446]

IVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO ADDRESS THIS. WHY ARE PEOPLE WORRIED ABOUT FREE DLC?!

[@yunabrooks]

about the free updates: minecraft has done that for a decade and nobody would dare to shit on that game. I didn't like Sims 4 when it released and can't stand the Sims 4 girlies. BUT I let them be! AND they should to the fucking SAME!

[@valintera]

I think there's a lot of Sims players who don't realize EA's monetization isn't necessary but focused on maximizing profits.

[@amarevicina]

I really wish all of the upcoming life sims will check our expectations, its about time EA stop scamming people.

[@honeycoffee5]

I gotta say. Even my fav Sims 4 simmers are constantly shading people who speak up against EA ripping us off. And it’s like, it’s easy for you to shade them because you get all the DLC for free, tf? Like if you’re part of the EA Creator Network you need to stfu about people speaking up against how much the DLC costs while it’s sooooo lackluster. You have no place to speak on or mock people who are tired and expect so much more from their favorite game to play. You get to talk about how much you love the sims but when other people do, and they complain because it’s so expensive and glitchy, you talk sh*t about them? Like hello?

[@Oct.c]

is amazing that Paralives is still developing and seems to have less bugs than sims 4

[@skaiiravenom]

i'm a big fan of the sims franchise since the first saga (and life sim games in general), but i totally agree with you in this video; i understand the worry of people about an indie game that wants to do all free, because i'm an indie gamer too and i met a lot of promising games that ends up being abandoned. so we can't deny that it is an existing risk. However, the sims franchise and EA are well known to be the greatest money grabber predators of gaming. and that's a fact. we can't deny that the sims's DLC are too much in an uncessary way. So, I'm very biased in this controversy because I want to wait and see how the situation evolves. and we must stop to do these stupid fandom wars. we are all right and we are all wrong until proven otherwise. (but it is still undeniable that EA's strategies are among the worst, and those who defend them vigorously don't know what they are talking about)

[@FalconFern-e6r]

Nice video, EA has always marketed stuff at younger players that are new to videogames so dont have as much experience to understand that their business practices are so bad. Its brilliant that Paralives is going in this direction, i cant wait for it to demonstrate that this is possible with life sims (probably) and standard practice for many videogames in general. Something ive been thinking of is they may release other life sim games in future, with full set up as a fantasy or sci-fi or supernatural game. One of the reasons TS4 keeps releasing paid DLC is that they have no issue making a bloated and chaotic game (think when people with all packs are hit with a bunch of stuff the second they start playing a new save). I am not about that and would much rather see a fun polished game that can one day be called "complete" without trying to fit everything into the same game.

[@JulianNS]

Thank you for this. I dont understand that people 😩

[@malevaistudio2105]

Im so happy to see more games revealing how sims 4 standards are lame

[@NotMalcolm]

honest facts it’s so enlightening

[@ste6098]

I clicked fast because I knew the tea was hot and the drama was on. Even before you said I imagined the Sims 4/EA stans would be the ones saying something against it, to them I just have to say worms for brains. Anyways, I love love love Paralives approach and can’t wait to play it myself.

[@TheDawnofVanlife]

I am NOT a Sims 4 stan and am concerned about this promise of no paid DLC. I in no way think the EA model is the right model. And I do think game basic updates, major ones, being free is fine. But upon rereading what they said on Patreon it also says no PAID DLC just free Updates so it seems instead of pack addins, it seems like there will be no packs at all, it’s just gonna be updates to the game. That being said I am happy not to have to pay for my Paras to get crushes…like Crushes are literally locked behind the HSY paywall in Sims 4…which I don’t own btw. But if I don’t know, a year after the 1.0 release of Paralives they want to add a vacation world that’s like a full Safari pack with Safari specific things I would want to pay for that because that’s gonna fund good work moving forward. If I got things like that as DLC AND continued good updates to the base game that are basic Para life improvements I think that’s the way to be better than EA. I am happy to pay for good, beefy, expansion packs in the far future. Good work deserves to be paid for, especially FAIRLY priced. Which unlike EA, I would trust Paralives to do.

[@fransmith3255]

Have you played other games besides The Sims? What Paralives is proposing is actually completely the norm. This is how most games operate - they make money from the game with no DLC. It is EA with it's ridiculous overpriced DLC (about 5 times the price they are actually worth - literally) that is extremely abnormal.

[@letsbekoii]

I feel like the sims 4 and Paralives are in their own lanes to where you really can’t compare the 2 together. To explain I feel like if you’re a cozy gamer who likes 100% real life(including mods to make it more real) then I would recommend the sims 4 but if you’re a cozy gamer who likes a Life is Strange: True Colors vibe with a sims style of realism when it comes to relationships and skills then I would recommend Paralives. I feel like Paralives went old school with their design and gameplay as well as the free packs and sims 4 went new school with the micro transactions and realism. Oh! I wanted to add that Paralives may have a small team but with their gameplay + the free updates it will show how games used to be and still should be developed. I remember buying a game in the early 2000’s for $50 and could play it for 6 months before needing to buy any dlc and with sims 4 you have a months worth of gameplay before needing to buy more to keep the game interesting.

[@xoxo_noe]

People are still calling the game a scam over in the comments section for The Sims on IG. It's wild, smh. And YES, all the folks freaking out about unpaid dlc really are wild, too.

[@CaitlynJohnson-qu2zz]

Can’t imagine being concerned about free updates for a game….like how do you come to that conclusion?

[@AdamantGremlin]

This art style has really grown on me including the paras.i think they are looking better than lby and sims. Sims 4 is trash. Every time I think about playing it some scandal happens. Recently they had a weird mod malware problem. I still worry about how small this team is though. Lby keeps having setbacks under someone who is competent, so I’m skeptical until I get both of these in front of my face. Yay for competition though.

[@NotMalcolm]

The art style has really grown on me too!

[@BreakingGaia]

LBY and Paralives are completely different games. I'm sure Humble has many more resources because his game is so ambitious, but that also complicates things.

[@fransmith3255]

Rod Humble is a well known and loved life sim programmer, but I doubt that he's necessarily making all the decisions for Life By You - even for the game studio. He's just a programmer. And it's the publishers, Paradox, who are making a lot of the stupid decisions for Life By You, unfortunately. Publishers (not the devs) are the route of a LOT of stupid decisions for games, like releasing them waaaaaaaay too early before they are half-baked...

[@lemontea.mp3579]

Yeah! Most dlcs in steam are cosmetics, artwork (process behind the game) + soundtracks and the dlcs are not as predatory

[@crazygamer_1082]

Listen, I am one of those girlies. Who got Sims 4 for free 😂 But listen, I genuinely would not be mad if they made certain things paid. Like Fantasy packs and extra worlds/towns. That makes sense because it’s so extra. That’s where I stand on paid DLC for Paralives

[@morighani]

this!

[@ddwhaley1304]

A WORD! I was thinking the exact same thing to say I was Gobsmacked at how the only thing EA was good at was that 2 n 1 they got SLATHERED ON AND IN peoples Brains.... GOODNESS

[@elvingearmasterirma7241]

I was concerned about Paralives because of my past experiences with grab and run schemes or actual passionate devs getting burnout and the game just... Not happening So imagine my glee when I saw it was in a playable state!! Im still tentatively hopeful as things can change quickly for the worst. But I am ready to grab a goat and a dagger to make sure Paralives comes out good

[@Braulyoko]

I mean, if Minecraft could then why not Paralives 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@UndeadR]

I think people just affraid that without paid content game will die fast becouse devs will not have funds for long term game development.

[@PinkRosie-jw2dz]

I can't believe that so many people are complaining over free stuff. It's ridiculous. you people should be happy.

[@CeruleanSun]

Okay CONTROVERSIAL but; After everything we have been through with EA forcing Sims 4 content down our throats for dollars, I can totally understand the caution exercised courtesy of the general public. We have been conditioned to be careful and expect the worst courtesy of the EA conglomerate which will overshadow anything creative outside of this company (such as Paralives), but I absolutely agree that content creators of Sims being a one sided piece of toast and chatting shit about an EA competitors is fundamentally wrong just because they might be de-monetised. I hope that everyone (us the community) can see past this and realise that there are people out there who just want to create a life Sim game without the shadow of EA above them. We must learn to stop comparing, and compartmentalize everything that a new creator of a small team, which isn't going to happen overnight just because something we dared to see (a company who cares about the thoughts of the consumer) come to fruition. It's unfair to question it when our experiences (with Sims) for the last 10 years have been naught for profit.

[@annininiee]

Totally!! It's time to give chance to other small dev who is willing to do an effort to make a game accessible to all players without paying thousands of dollars (yes i'm talking abt uu EA!!)

[@spacegroove2896]

I harbor genuine concerns that upon the game's release, there may ensue a decline in patronage toward the developers on Patreon. The absence of any forthcoming DLC announcements adds a layer of apprehension, potentially unsettling certain individuals within the community.

[@NotMalcolm]

that’s fair but if they believe they can make enough money from base game sales alone to continue their operations without selling dlc then there’s no reason for me to doubt them. I also think the game doesn’t need to survive for 10 years like the sims 4?

[@qetsiyah1766]

Lmao I love your editing.

[@jandlou]

Seriously, playing Sims 4 drained my bank account of at least $1000+ before I cut it off like a cancerous addiction.

[@NotMalcolm]

i’m so happy for you ❤️ as a fellow survivor i’m so embarrassed to look at my sims 4 library

[@boltcore._.]

I fully agreed with you and i follow you on twitter and people are boiling over this. I really love the fact that they will keep dlcs free and sims 4 is really just overpriced for no reason and im never gonna pay for a game s dlcs ever again because i already have the sims 3 dlcs which are actually worth the price but i just hope it wont turn out like disney dreamlight valley because in early acess they said the game will be free with free updates but with moonstones (kind of like simpoints to compensate the fact that its free) and now ddv launched and they did not keep their promise with the game being pay to play with an expensive first dlc and still with currency that costs money.

[@wangdangatomictango]

It's the misplaced concern for the free dlc and not giving criticism on the trailer's gameplay. I have quie a few for what's been shown, but it's geuinely annoying how much of a non-issue this controversy is. Developers can make promises all they want, but all the have is their word. This is subject to change, so until it happens, it's just another marketing move. There's nothing wrong with that, but the community still never divorce the mentality of "developers are your personal friends."

[@fransmith3255]

The most knowledgeable common sense public opinion I've seen on the matter.

[@Adlwinger1719]

Long comment incoming: I get annoyed by the ‘dlc’ discourse surrounding Paralives by the Sim girlies which ties into my bigger issue with simmers looking at Paralives as a ‘replacement’ for the Sims and not an ‘alternative’ you can play in your game rotation. For people who complain about corporate greed every time a half baked Sims pack drops, you would think they would have supported enough indie games to know what has long been practiced in that space; a single purchase which continues to be fine tuned for as long as they can. I highly doubt that Paralives will be as big (and hopefully not as hollow) as the Sims 4 is. On top of that, when it comes to expansions, what more will the Para-team need to add to the game if everything that is essential to a life sim (but EA decided to slap into a dlc) comes with the basegame like pets, seasons, CHILDREN etc., and with good functionality. Do they want them to release a $10 pack full of t-shirts and chairs? Earth to simmers: no, it is not normal to pay $10 just to be able to make your pc people do laundry. Most Sims DLC is just a single feature with mountains of stuff that most people will never use. Why do they want an oversaturated game that can’t run without making your pc a jet engine even if there isn’t a single mod installed? And even if things that are in the Sims aren’t implemented in Paralives like occults and active careers, they can go play for the Sims for that. Then there is the issue of Sims girlies being unnecessarily critical of what the Para-team devs have shared so far instead of providing constructive criticism, which the devs would have probably liked. There was a comment on the gameplay showcase talking about how boring it looked because it ‘wasn’t wacky enough and looked too normal’ and another about how ‘they play the Sims to live wealthy in a mansion and not grind for cash’. The Sims is not going to disappear off the face of the earth, they can play both or just the Sims or none at all. Point is, they need to stop treating Paralives like it is trying to go toe to toe with EA. They are a team of ten people. Let them make a cozy little life sim for the rest of us that want a realistic feel instead of a grandiose dollhouse simulator and we will judge whatever issues that will pop out of the game once it comes out. Like damn! The simmers have bigger fish to fry like overpriced broken packs, 10 kits a year and a CC cartel being run by the big modders than to be critical of a game that hasn’t come out yet.

[@rowenn1729]

people want to PAY !!!!! please take my money or my life is meaningless 😭😭😭

[@NotMalcolm]

😭 me at the McDonalds drive thru

[@VibrantVenus]

I always keep in mind that most of the sims 4 content creators on YT (with larger followings) are on EA's payroll. So, they're probably not going to express much excitement over a game that can ACTUALLY compete with the franchise that's paying their bills.😂

[@carrinwhitehurst7397]

Im excited 🎉 it's funny... i think were more worried about how theyre going to maintain 😅 and thats because I LOVE THIS GAME! ❤ im so so so excited about this game. Plaid sims for years... i dont need dlc... im all for it being free. Cheeper for me😂

[@dianastc3710]

I will be there for early access, and yes we sims players are very brainwashed by a shity company that ruined our favourit game

[@youforget1000thingsaday]

I've been at war with Sims 4 ever since I dropped $60 on this piece of sh*t back in 2014. Unacceptable.

[@rivanvking]

What a great video, loved it ✨✨

[@Kaipochama]

As a ‘real’ sims fan we wanted something like sims2 or 3. Not the broken trashy cash grabby scam sims4. Those who defend sims4..i dunno what they are thinking and probably just kids. I’ve boycotted sims4 since snowy escape, soooo disappointing and unworthy even with 50% discount.

[@lllamaface3047]

I wouldn't mind paying money for worthwhile DLC-s for Paralives ... I see the passion in their game already... The balance in between cash and content which is the problem in the Sims 4...

[@teocranium]

best example of making up a person to be mad about

[@Moss_piglet13]

The only thing im thinking with free dlc just means, we arent going to get as much things like vacations, hotells, landlord and tenants and all that. I feel like the game will be mich more focused on just livingyour para's life and while you wont be able to do as crazy things as in the sims, the things you will be able to do will be a lot more fleshed out. I wont lie and say that the "will NEVER have paid DLC" isn't something im not sceptical about. On one hand im happy that the game will be affordable but on the other hand, this has me thinking that the game will be really fun for a year or two but then after that will start to die off due to there not beeing new content. I feel like the vest way for them to go would have been to have all the big updates be free but then sell outfit and furniture packs for a small price tag

[@nocturna76]

i know OF paralives of course, but i haven't really followed much of the development since i was worried it'd never actually be finished/released, considering how many other life sims have died before even being finished. so this is the first time i've even heard about the no paid dlc thing. but if they actually ARE going into early access, then i will definitely be checking it out. i'm not a huge fan of the art style, but if the game actually does happen, i can't say i'm not curious 🤔

[@LouisianaCityboi]

Free DLC is the difference between independent development and corporate owned development.

[@nerdychocobo]

My only concern with the paralives trailer was that I'd like there to be things that can cause things to go wrong and create drama, and I didn't see anything that could cause that from what we've seen so far. The idea of being angry that there's free dlc is ridiculous

[@kryw10]

I just assume all game companies are liars at this point.

[@mewletter]

Not all game companies are like Blizzard Activision and EA. But a healthy amount of skeptism is okay. That's why NEVER Pre-order and wait for user reviews 😎

[@Miochh]

There's also a big difference between AAA companies and Indie studios/small teams, one most likely releases games for monetization other in most cases releases games for the passion of making games.

[@randomlysammy9856]

Have you thought about making a discord server so people can send you sims they've made? I made a sim who I think would give Angelina a run for her money..that girl kept slapping the butler for no reason! 😂

[@alkv7604]

I will try my best to buy paralives, but everything in my country is VERY expensive! But hopefully until there, i'll be able to buy it...

[@silkisnothere]

Hot take: some of these people want more DLC so that they have bragging rights for being able to own them all. They want to keep up appearances as a type of “collector” of all the Sims stuff or whatever, particularly some folks who have been playing the games since before the Sims 4 came out and also feel morally superior for being the most “diehard” fan. A game without such a DLC model won’t have room for this kind of fandom elitism and they dislike it.

[@lucila2332]

the only opinion that matters

[@nokuno]

I'm just happy that us life simmers are eating 🤭🤭it's about time the Sims got competition and in different ways. Like I really like that paralives is doing the no paid dlc cause like you said not all of us got money to pay for 70+ dlcs.

[@s18uwu6]

Free DLC is great and all, and I get yee8332's perspective but I think it's important to financially support good developers. Especially indie ones. It's their game and more power too them but I think it's less sustainable than people think, not just funding Paralives ongoing support but also any other projects they want to explore. I think indie games are mostly passion projects, which is the backbone of gaming as a whole. Just mostly free DLC is good enough. Even if they go back on that promise and have reasonably priced DLC(unlike EA) then I'm absolutely not going to be mad. Back in the day DLC as a concept wasn't really feasible, what with physical copies and consoles not really having access to the internet, one and done. And DLC is often done in bad faith and extremely greedily these days, but people take continued support for a game and updates for granted. Frick how EA does it tho... anadius is good for more than just leaks btw...

[@YazzyJ718]

I really want others complaining about this to see this video. Some games company’s fiancés isn’t your problem. Don’t worry about how they’re going to make money.

[@synthalics]

It's official The Sims 4 Community have Stockholm syndrome if there's anything they should be concerned about is why some of their mods have malware? or why they're still buying broken overpriced DLC for a 10 year old game that's also broken? ifykyk.

[@heroinasytumbas3346]

Ppl don't want to see the free DLC as a good thing because they don't want to admit how much they've been scammed by EA. Yall are VICTIMS 😭

[@sanecatlady]

I'm glad I watched this video because I was skeptical about the free DLC updates for Paralives, but it's better those updates are free rather than paid for. The Sims 4 makes you pay for DLC and they STILL release them broken and glitchy. To my knowledge they still have not fixed My Wedding Stories and that came out almost 2 years ago. If Paralives releases broken DLC at least we don't have to worry about our money being wasted. Hopefully they'll carefully test their updates before releasing it (which is the bare minimum!). We have all been traumatized by The Sims 4's greed 🤣 and this is why I refuse to buy any more packs from them and play the older games.

[@sarayb.5083]

I’m not a Sims 4 Stan. I’m concerned about free DLC because I’m not sure how sustainable that is for indie devs specifically. Don’t mind being wrong lol I care because I like what I’ve seen so far and want the devs to do well long term. Planet Zoo and other simulation games I play all have reasonably priced dlc. I wouldn’t want to work for free and don’t expect devs to. Small updates should definitely be free.

[@calencor]

have you tried Vivaland? its also another contender!

[@ShekinahSims]

I feel… attacked 😂

[@lasgin99wif]

I still have yet to see something that really excites me about Paralives sadly. I understand that the footage is not the final product but the game looks a bit lifeless to me so far, I don't know why. Now this doesn't come from a Sims 4 fanboy POV as I barely even play that game anymore and I also have mostly critiques for the game, but I really hope Paralives gets some more personality. It seems like it has the Sims 4 problem of being a mostly millenial y/a simulator but even more extreme than sims 4. It's the truest version of the words "life simulation" instead of a "life simulation game".

[@Sovereign-Gaming]

🤣. LOVE DIS.

[@NotMalcolm]

haha love youu for watching 🥺 June is cominggg!

[@Sovereign-Gaming]

LOL 🤣. Honestly, I think that the ultimate winner in all of this will be the players 🤷‍♂.

[@NotMalcolm]

absolutely! i can’t believe it’s taken this long to get some variety in this genre but so excited for players to finally have ✨options✨

[@carrinwhitehurst7397]

I will say my only concern is what if I don't want the free DLC an update.😅😅😅😅 Like I'm not really a horse person. And if they're gonna add horses to the game. Well I just said to make sure to horses😂

[@cryingwatercolours]

Oh my… a sims 4 video and comment section with common sense?! I didn’t think it existed! How anyone is still paying that company I have no idea. And dragging down the other games at the same time? I urge them all to play literally any other non major title game

[@RapNB2011]

Even with all the pros, the parafolks art style is horrible enough for me to never touch that game…sorry not sorry

[@jbonesteak2476]

I had to stop playing the sims 4. As cool as the mods were they still couldn't fix the mountain of problems that game has. Well, not permanently, all the updates from the pantom support of EA kept breaking my mods. Got fed it. And just quit.

[@cibram230]

Honestly I find myself a little worried about the fact that the game's content is updated through large free updates. I feel like it's going to be a bit like other games, where in each update the game receives a lot of content that might not be used or wanted and this will somehow oversaturate the game experience or make the game heavier. I would be worried about having a game that gets heavier and slower the more they update it. I really hope that they are completely optional and eligible dlc, where I can choose what content to include and what not, as if they were official, easy-to-install mods...

[@Hunnypooh18]

I'm honestly confused about the so-called "concern" about free dlc. Stardew Valley did just fine giving free major updates. It brought people to the game and they were overjoyed to pay one price. Seriously, simmers are WILD.

[@NotMalcolm]

completely agree, the “concern” from simmers is so confusing!

[@aarachnophxbia]

finally someone said this out loud!! thank you so much, i’m so excited for paralives and now i just can’t stand sims 4 stans

[@ninjakiwigames5418]

Why did you unlist this video?

[@NotMalcolm]

no reason! lol just organizing stuff ig

[@zenaiwilson405]

ea is the toxic ex. paralives is our joe alwyn

[@LouieLouLoo]

imo, there should be paid something such as cosmetics per se as this will help with future development of the game. But with or without those dlcs the game should be playable.

[@parrot998]

Minecraft has free major DLC every single year for nearly a decade and a half. Often twice a year. And they are owned by Microsoft, another notoriously greedy company. Terraria has been updated so many times despite the devs saying it's the last update that the "final update" has become an injoke in the community. Free content is not only doable, but commonplace at this point.

[@Vhmvd]

I'm a bit skeptic about "all future dlcs being free", if EA overpriced dlcs more or less shitty, I'm not sure if working on a dlc without getting financially motivated is right, talk about half-assed dlc with no passion. but i want to be wrong ... so I'll wait.

[@Miochh]

Paralives team does get funded by Patreon for example, they have quite a bit of supporters so they probably did the financial accounting and came to the conclusion they don't want to release any paid dlcs.

[@danielkay5555]

Also the game is already set to come with pets, weather, cars, boats. That's the major thing that ea splits into packs. I don't mind if the other stuff come out in a simplified free dlc like the vaccations or uni.

[@fransmith3255]

"without getting financially motivated"...how about instead getting motivated to simply make a wonderful product that gives pleasure to a lot of people. That's the kind of motivation that Paralives has, and that's faaaaaar better than any financial motivation. Financial motivation leads to companies like EA... Passionate motivation to make a great product actually leads to...great products. And there are a lot of games that are great products on Steam.

[@estelladee]

The Sims has always been special to me, but I am honestly done with it. I will forever thank TS1, 2 and 3 for all those wonderful memories. But it's time to move on. TS 5 will NOT be a competitor of Paralives and LBY. And if EA and Maxis has any decency, they will let that game rest in peace instead of shamelessly milking it like there's no tomorrow.

[@zebruh2794]

bro, sims 4 stans are dead brain, watch as Andrew is suing Paralives because he thinks it belongs to him when it's doesn't.

[@totakoke]

CLOCK IT

[@eduardogurgel7324]

🫶🏻

[@antoniot3734]

Promo-SM 🙄