WHY I'm NO LONGER With VIC FIRTH - The Whole Story

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

*HEY Y'ALL! I'm going to be completely transparent here and say that I've considered changing the name of the video, just because I don't want to disrespect VF sticks in any way. But after flip-floppin back and forth, I decided to just leave it. Y'all know me anyways! The straight truth is that I DID think they were great sticks when I was using them, and STILL think they make great sticks! It was just time for a change for me. So...check out the video for the straight scoop on why I decided to switch and to see what I'm hittin' with now!* 🤓🥁🔥

[@Jerrodbdrums]

@rob very inspiring!!

[@Simonewhitesim-1music]

Right on. I'm with pro mark.

[@undermeslengting]

Interesting. I made the same switch about a week ago to the Promark Active Grip rebou d 7A's. Absolutely love 'em.

[@dreamopeth]

Might consider the fire sticks. I'm using Benny Grebs sticks I really rate them.

[@MrPistons4life]

I've had these sticks going on 3 weeks and they're sick and everything you said was spot on I'm back playing promark.

[@flooper8441]

I use to play with Vic Firth, then the Vater sticks attacked.

[@psychoticmane20]

Vater stick are very durable. I had a mix match pair I have been using for a couple years

[@ArrowThrills]

Vater sticks suck in my opinion there cheap.

[@ArrowThrills]

Mine end up breaking after 2 or 3 weeks of usage.

[@aristotle5698]

I used all brands Vic, Promark, now Vater, and man.....Vater rules. I used three pairs of promark, felt like those were the ones, but then I tried Vater.

[@windexfighter77]

Same here. I started with Vic and I always thought all sticks were pretty much the same. I was always trying new models because nothing ever felt quite right for my hands. I ended up trying a pair of Vaters (my first) that I fell absolutely in love with feel-wise and they ended up outlasting all of the Vics I ever tried. That was 10 years ago and I haven’t looked back.

[@mattydread6618]

Rob, I have been following you for years, and although I do not personally know you I feel that seeing you through your videos I can tell you have a lot of integrity. Although it was not easy for you to come to that decision, I appreciate your honesty and openness. I am also a Vic guy, but now I have to try these sticks! Thanks Bro!

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

Thanks, man 🙂👊🏽

[@austinfarris7205]

Big fan of the Kashi Oak ProMarks. Try em out. Even more durable than the FireGrain's believe it or not...

[@DavidWinterDrums]

Yeah I love the Kashi Oaks... Not only are they super comfortable to play, but their durability blows me away! Best sticks out there in my personal opinion :)

[@JCordoba1001]

Those are the only sticks i use 5Aand 5B wood. Love my oaks

[@JDKrug]

Just picked up a pair to try myself a few weeks ago. Love them already

[@ChurchOfTheHolyMho]

I'm not a drummer but love to play. I also recently discovered the Kashi Oaks and love them.

[@johncuscaden2021]

They were my first ones actually

[@progression_decibel]

Over the past few years, Promark and Evans has really upped their games with drumming product and as such I have found myself switching to their side. I am currently loving the 5B Shiri Oak sticks or the Thomas Pridgen signatures. I've tried the black ActiveGrip Portnoy model and that was cool, I'm interested in grabbing/trying a pair of the newer "clearer" ActiveGrip they just came out with. Good luck on your journey Rob, what a great YT channel.

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

Thanks a lot, man 🙂✌🏽

[@BobSchoepenjr]

At 3:20 ...LOVE AT FIRST STICKS ! Haha 😂

[@jonthan8914]

Please send me your old Vic Firth Sticks 🙏

[@jedfriedland1520]

One of the coolest and most consistent drum related channels out there. Thanks, Rob for this one. Love your candor and your delivery. Drumming is first rate too!

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

Thanks man 🙂👊🏽

[@MattyWill1]

I knew it was promark before you said it. I've been using pro mark for years now . I love them. I'm a hard hitter and can break sticks . They last so long .

[@gbirdo4718]

Promark is the shit. I love my active grip sticks. They get even grippier when they heat up from your hands. But at the same time they don’t feel sticky.

[@Darrylizer1]

I've been using Vic Firths for a while now and I'm tired of replacing sticks. They feel great but they just don't last. I'm gonna go back to Promarks.

[@thedrummerdude777]

I'm gonna be THAT guy and say, "when I played Pro Mark, they broke after playing a single set on stage" but the truth is that I actually really like Pro Mark but why the hell are they so expensive??

[@pjones8404]

I am a drummer of 49 years and I landed with those exact sticks as well. Promark sent me prototypes of the forward and rebound sticks when they were in pretesting stage and I instantly fell in love the rebound model. But the prototypes were a 5A which is too small for me. When I tried the 5B everything felt perfect. I really love em.

[@gaboogablah]

I started using promark in the 80s and never changed. They have a certain feel, and the way their lacquer gives a better grip the longer you play, from the heat of your hand. They just feel more solid or dense, and the firth always felt like pine or a dry wood. The fire grain are harder than normal sticks. So you don't need nylon tip for harder tip like on the bells, rides ping, etc.

[@rufusdavis137]

As a HUGE fan of Promark I can honestly say that the Japanese white oak 747s have never let me down! Gotta love the length and durability of em’

[@ricklang_drummer]

As a HUGE fan of Promark I can honestly say that their oak stick is the only stick I have ever used for the past 25 years that split through the entire length of the stick within 5 min rehearsal with the big band, Needless to say, I will never buy oak sticks again.

[@jjmarcos]

Promark sticks are freaking 15 dollars. The Japanese oak are like 20. Idk how anyone not endorsed can keep using promark.

[@robpennington9237]

I've used ProMark since 1993. I started using their black color coated 5b then I went to the 727 ball tip. Then eventually I was turned on to the Neil Peart 747 signature model and have used them till just recently when they discontinued it. And I loved those sticks, Shira Kashi oak is the greatest. I hammer the shit out of them and they last for months. Now I'm using the 747b SKO in nylon tip. Half an inch longer slightly thicker but awesome

[@andym28]

The Danny Carey sticks the best I've tried. Weighted in the front. Very powerful and much better for rudiments.

[@yeetfeet1878]

I was thinking about getting them.

[@sinankececi4041]

Other than Vic Firth's poor selection at .580 size of sticks thats true actually, still Vic Firth is way comfortable

[@Cpayne30]

I played Vic Firth for a while, but once I switched to Promark I never looked back...

[@Cpayne30]

Wadsmitter - I love my Larks shirt. Good for any occasion!

[@dannylugo5016]

I used to use Promarks then went with Vater

[@kevins5473]

I will give them a try. I use Promarks 5A and 747.

[@yeetfeet1878]

I use 2 companies Vic Firth and Promark

[@tbone8358]

I use 747 Neil Peart Promark oak sticks

[@Hadrorex]

Rob found something better. I've never taken the word of an endorser. I gotta see for myself.

[@vt6spd]

I like the design of the ProMark sticks, but I love the Vic tips- nice round (5A). Not oval shaped. Does ProMark have something with similar?

[@JakeStaffin]

Promark's classic forward line has the old school Promark dimensions with the oval tip, but their Rebound line (which Rob uses) has the same dimensions as Vic Firth and a similar tip shape. For me, the only difference I feel is that sometimes, Vic Firth sticks feel like the lacquer is a bit more noticeable. Vater also has a stick line called the classic series with the Vic Firth dimensions and tip shapes as well which I'm looking to try.

[@MattGarwood777]

Just ordered a set of firegrain 5b rebounds... as a traditional grip drummer, I'm always looking to find the stick that lets me grip it further back for more power without sacrificing the balance. Hoping the weight being shifted towards the back end to be just the thing. You're my favorite YT drummer, man - keep up what you're doing. I dig it!

[@padistedor]

I knew it was promark before you said it. I love the way their sticks feel but they always broke on me too easy so I stopped using them. I will try the ones you got and see how it goes.

[@faultycow8307]

There's something weird about Promark to me, like the density is off. They never feel heavy enough to me and I'm a light player

[@everettspears8036]

Yes I switched as well. Promark Firegrain sticks for me. Can't pick up another pair.

[@zim1966]

I switched back to Vic's 15 years ago from pro mark because I was having trouble with splitting the stick when playing the only brand I EVER have that problem with. BUT Hey Beatdown you do that voodoo You do Bro'

[@jaytaylor965]

I use the Firegrains also. I jump between the 7a and the 5a. Absolutely love them. I was trying every stick out there until I decided on Promark. Glad I did.

[@Ghost3789]

Congrats on the new partnership with Pro-Mark sticks.

[@miguelruiz8183]

I went to Pro mack, well balanced sticks for sure!!!

[@miguelruiz8183]

Pro mark I mean lol

[@ruelsmith]

I just recently went the other way. I played Pro Mark for many years. Personally, the quality was far better years ago. I bought a pair of Vic Firth at Guitar Center because their selection was poor for Pro Mark, and I LOVE THEM! I'll be sticking with these 5Bs...

[@CrazyLG72]

Agreed. Quality,grip and price were better years ago with Promarks. Seems like every Promark stick I've tried over the last couple of years I have to use grip tape. I moved on to VF and Vater

[@mileslinus]

"It was love at first stick" lol I've been a Vic Firth guy for many years. My only complaint is that the wood tips tend to chip pretty quickly, which gives me a mushy sound and feel on my cymbals. I have lots of Vic Firth sticks that are in great shape but I don't use anymore because the tips are chipped. I should try these fire grain sticks to see if they hold up any better.

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

I'm seriously not into gimmicks, man. But the claim was that the process makes the wood a little stronger, and so far, no lies. But Yea, I've also had sticks wearing down to pencils.

[@treylnmiller285]

To me Vic Firth 5a sticks feel like pencils wen u start beating really hard but Promarks will give you a challenge tho

[@noegarza4746]

I'm actually thinking about "sticking "with VIC....been playing Vater 5B but had a 5A's laying around of VIC Firth and can't seem to put them down!!! Hey! No MATTER WHAT STICK YOU CHOOSE....U DO U!🤑

[@purpledc1]

too bad vic firth couldn't make you a signature set. I tried promark sticks and found the overall quality to be lacking compared to vic firth.

[@jwebby85]

Promark has a 5A and 5B Rebound Long (16.5 inches long). If they would make a 55A Rebound Long, I’d be all in on Promark because for a long time my stick of choice has been the Vic Firth X55A. I like the feel of the long rebound 5A, but 5B just doesn’t feel good in my hand. If the would make this stick, they’d have me 100%.

[@jpolls233]

I got turned on to Vater Fusion sticks. I have not broken one stick yet. A matter of fact I haven't seen a chipped tip off of their sticks either. Normally all wooden sticks by firth etc break off the tips. Not Vater. Sorry,..... not sorry 😉👍 They're only around $7.99 a pair.

[@davegarciaofficial]

Why on earth, in 2020+ would anyone intentionally choose to play traditional grip?? Let alone full time!! It’s undisputed fact that traditional grip hampers one’s playing, especially around a full kit, and hurts their body through compromised body mechanics. One can obviously play this way and some of the greatest on earth played this way. BUT it still doesn’t make it the best way. I’ll never ever understand traditional grip in 2023. 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@curtisvasseur9785]

My first pair of sticks were ProMark nylon tips. I remember them well from the 80’s. The logo would rub off in time. Unlike today’s sticks. ProMark is always my go to. I’ve played with and have Vic Firth and Vater sticks also. Played with Zildjian sticks also but don’t really care for them. I have have some Firegrains also. I’m partial to nylon tips, but I’ll play wood tips.

[@TheSirse]

I've recently switched from Vic First 5AN Extreme to Vater VH5AS. While they're not quite as good in terms of rebound, they just feel that little bit better in the hand. I also really like the ProMarks, they're just way out of my price range here in South Africa.

[@b.p.879]

Haha, man just for the heck of it I guessed "Promark Rebounds", since that's what I've been using for the past year and was surprised to hear your answer! They really are well balanced. I've mostly used Vic firth 5a and 5b, but I'm really liking the 5a Rebounds.

[@chrisfournier6144]

A novice drummer but I like Vic Firth sticks and Promark. I would be happy to have only Promarks for the rest of my days. Every player has his own feel and touch. There isn’t a wrong or right is there?

[@jfkdrms]

Other way round for me with select balance my man, always played rock but wanted to use a 5a and always felt small, so stuck with 5b and 2b bit they are too big for my hands... so for me its FORWARD 5A FIREGRAIN!!!! LotsI of power from a smaller stick, Im with you bro 👌

[@GrassRoots-fp4ty]

This stupid pandemic has had me so out of it, I didnt know this video existed. Wow. I have always played Vics. But, I had always played Remo, until I tried Evens, and now prefer Evens by far. Even did an A B test, cant really go back. Might need to give promark a look to.

[@am_i_sam_i_am]

aren’t the Vic Firth American Jazz sticks comparable to the rebound balance? the AJ1 seems like a really comparable stick to what you were looking for originally

[@UPdan]

I just switched to ProMark 2b and 5b firegrain. The Vic Firth were feeling like balsa wood for maple. Didn’t waste them, turned them into wood chimes.

[@ampdrum1]

ProMark 727 oak wood tip. Down from NP 747. Love for me. Try them all. God Bless Rob.

[@Darrylizer1]

Vater Fatback 3As are hands down the worst sticks I've ever used. They hurt my hands, feel like logs and just don't bounce well on the heads. No rebound, no finesse. I used to use Promarks but switched to mainly Vic Firth 5As and 5Bs depending on what I'm playing about 10 years ago. I may switch back to Promarks as Vic Firths while feeling great are not durable.

[@matthewsherman9765]

What’s funny is I recently switched from Pro Mark to Vic Firth and then eventually discovered Vater which I’m using currently. If a particular stick inspires your playing than that’s your stick. If that changes over time that’s fine. Always keep experimenting and improving. Pro Mark still makes great stuff, just gotta trust your gut. I think the Vater LA.5A and 5B have great balance and high moisture content which makes them more durable IMHO. Again this is just my preference after playing Pro Mark for 20+ years and then checking out the other brands. They all make great sticks.

[@Mizman76]

I use only Vater. I absolutely LOVE their sticks. They just feel so quality to me. I'm not endorsed and can/will play other sticks when the need is there. But my money goes to Vater ALWAYS.

[@jakethepitador2558]

Clearly you've never played with Regal 5B sticks. Just sayin'.

[@dereksmith9025]

Congratulations. A Change is good

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

Ultimately and always ✌🏽

[@CrazyLG72]

Vics have some great sticks just like Promark do. I use the 747 oaks great sticks but I still pick the VF 5a nylon grip and the American classic sticks and 5ab ones and they last me longer than the Promark oaks which tells me Vics use strong hickory and better lacquer. And are cheaper in price than Promark but you cant go wrong with either brand

[@AMusician11]

You moved from Vic Firth to Promark. What's next? VATER?

[@christophereverett276]

I like zildjian sticks, probably just because of dennis chambers

[@marchiesmusic]

Promark is really amazing but the X5As from Vic will never be topped in my personal opinion. That’s just my truth.

[@rolandedrummer9723]

I've played the same model of Vic Firth sticks since 1990. I don't think I could stop if I wanted to. Before then it was a mixed bag of whatever. haha

[@menzerroku4708]

Love ur video!!! At least you are respectful😎 most people would trash talk Vic firth and talk crap. Your respect full and have my respect is. Love the video😀

[@rosejuliette9180]

TBF all the stick brands are good and have different strengths. I keep a variety. I'm very light on my sticks though as I pretty exclusively play jazz and very chill beats. I have sticks that are more than 10 years old in my bag and people are always so confused about it. Like yeah I've not broken s stick in years and I don't know what to tell people other than find your surfaces and volume. I have different sticks if I want to really beat the hell out of the kit which is rare.

[@solidwaterslayer]

I'm a noob drummer. And I have a 5A & 8A and I can't tell what the difference is. So I don't know how you can tell a stick is between 5A & 5B.

[@davidmcaninch4714]

I’m gonna stick with Vic Firth, but I’ll still remain subscribed to your channel. You’re a cool cat, you know that?

[@christophersmyrski8568]

Vice firth makes the best sticks for me. Feel better then all competition in the same sizes.

[@jamisbillson4872]

Oh my fucking gosh...I just wrote about this to you and now you’re using them. They last for ages.

[@larkstonguesinaspic4814]

I used to think Vic Firth is the only drum stick brand I didn't care about the others. But once I needed a pair I went into a drum shop that had just ran out of Vic firths.. so I bought a pair of Vater Fusion stick... And that's what I've been using since then!

[@SurviveTheDay]

This video is moving very slowly. Wake me up when the music starts.

[@CB2CRE]

Dayum, I too love ProMark… never knew why other then just a you said, they just feel right.

[@Diesel0807]

Love the weckl evolution sticks but the tips are too fragile especially on rides that are heavily lathed and hammered like the Constantinople

[@ginojulius297]

I used the ative grip their good bro. But i ALWAYS GO back 2 Vic. well what the hell i have bo ties

[@francisphilipsphilips2829]

Honestly I quit in Vic firths long time ago I use los Cabo’s 5As red hickory sticks

[@Mari000]

Do you think these sticks would be good for metal drumming?

[@michaeljorissen4988]

I started using the Mike Portnoy activegrip 420X last year and have not played anything else since. Great company to change to.

[@leighjo70]

I may need to take a closer look. Need a more comfortable sticks to choose from when giging. Thanks

[@GolfKahuna8]

I love my FireGrain sticks but I too also play the Kashi Oak.

[@julieheinzel499]

Try the Jason bonham signture promark drum stick

[@rockmanalternativemusic738]

Where did you go during the blank screen? To get some Regal and Pro-Marks.

[@krusher74]

Sounds like the vic firth NE-1 are what you wanted, maybe they were not out then.

[@ArrowThrills]

I think zildjian drumsticks are better.

[@Pure_KodiakWILD_Power]

what had happened was.... 🤔😂 just when i went back to the original deep red weckl sticks, here this happens.... man, i've missed those sticks....

[@tdrum21]

Love his orange ones

[@gabepalumbo6733]

I switched the Pro-Mark fire grains as well. They provide a beautiful sound on the drums(although it’s all relative). For me it makes the drums sound darker.

[@yoelmaimon6626]

dude , you should have tried the benny greb sticks, they are exactly what you wanted weight wise

[@drumcorelovor3039]

I support ya dude! I personally don’t enjoy promark, but ya know music is all about what you like so I hope you enjoy the change!

[@anasaseruvatu5688]

It was love at first grip for me when I held my first pair of promarks man...

[@leonardsmith2170]

This is a stand-up display of integrity! I'm proud to subscribe to you channel, Rob! Take care.

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

Thanks for that comment, man 🙂👊🏽

[@leonardsmith2170]

You are always welcome and thank you for making me a better drummer.

[@buzjohnson8546]

Hey Rob, love your videos and back in the day ProMark was all I used to use. Kind of hard to find here in SC at the Music Stores, but plan to go online to buy. Thanks for the info! Keep it coming.

[@legacyShredder1]

Can't lie; Due to this video I had to try out the Select Balance line. I ordered the two different 5a sizes in rebound and forward balance, although they made a mistake and sent me a pair of 5b rebounds. The best happy accident to happen to me in years. I love the 5b rebound.

[@soccermom6189]

i'm new to this channel and dont know much about drumming, i thought "vic firth" was his girlfriend and was really confused when he started talking about drumsticks.

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

Fair assumption 😄

[@keysbythenumbers]

I changed to the ProMark LA series. All the drummers at my church really dig them. For me, it's a great stick and I enjoy using them!

[@creetan9997]

What do you think about the shira kashi (japanese oak) pro mark sticks?

[@Iamadrummer]

I used to use Vic Firth sticks. I tried all kinds of sticks from all kinds of companies. I even tried all kinds of Pro Mark sticks(but not the firegrain ones). I hated all the Pro Mark sticks I tried. This made me go back to the Vic Firth sticks since those were the best I have found. One day it all changed. I was at the store I buy sticks at and I saw this reddish brown looking stick in the size I like(7A). I picked them up and they felt great in my hands. I tapped around on the demo pad they had and liked the sticks. I then looked over the sticks and was surprised to realized I had picked out a Pro Mark stick. The sticks were the firegrain series sticks. I bought them and brought them to my drumset. Now I mostly only use the Pro Mark firegrain sticks. I found after testing dozens of sticks from all kinds of companies, even other Pro Mark sticks, that the firegrain series sticks feel terrific to play and seem to be more durable than any other wood stick I have tried. For me and it sounds like you as well the Pro Mark Firegrain sticks are phenomenal and all the other Pro Mark sticks are just garbage.

[@obijuan8466]

Vater Nylon tipped Fusions.

[@bradparra2630]

vic firth to me is the best , ive been playing steve gadds wood tips for tears will never switch

[@andrewmagee8868]

You should check out the Todd Sucherman Signature stick. They’re chunky, .600, but light because they’re made out of maple

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

They did give me a pair in my welcome package. Haven’t played with em yet but they feel pretty cool for sure. I used to be way into maple sticks years ago but the ones I was using kept snappin up on me

[@dahhmlife]

It's a good feeling when you find the sticks that match you personally. Happy for you!

[@jamisbillson4872]

And love your honest philosophy too mate. Brilliant. I’m a Firegrain convert.

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

Them sticks are seriously cool, man 🔥

[@richardgoldman8761]

I wouldn’t cut ties, I’d just tell Vic I’m trying something different for awhile, bc who knows, you might be back w/Vic.

[@yeetfeet1878]

That’s the thing about endorsements you can’t use anything else but that company. While they can be fun you can get pretty limited

[@bigdaddy5150sh71]

I will give promark a try too. I play vic's mostly. 🤘

[@openyoureyes4799]

I use the Promark Classic 5A, and the Rebound 5A. I love them! Although mine are pretty chewed up now!

[@ToomanyFrancis]

D'addario has become more innovative in design than any other company. I don't know a lot about their products in other categories, but Evans and Promark are making strides. Most other companies are just releasing the same products with another ply on the head, a stick that has a taper that starts a little bit sooner or something that's really arbitrary. The UV heads were a huge step from Evans, and firegrain is a bigger one from Promark. I don't know if a lot of people here keep up with marching percussion, Evans just released the "system blue" marching snare head and it is the best feeling marching snare head I've ever felt. It has almost the same exact sound as the hybrid head (because it is pretty much the same head), but it has a much softer feeling. Shortly after that Tim Fairbanks and Tim Jackson released their signature Promark sticks, both firegrain. Tim Fairbanks firegrain feel better than any marching stick I've ever felt, Tim Jackson Ralf changed it up. Tim Jackson firegrain are pretty much the same design as Sean Vega's quad sticks, but the nylon bead is actually a wooden bead that is coated in nylon. It's genius.

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

They hooked me up with both the Fairbanks and Jackson models. LOVE em. D’Addario takes chances, man. I dig that a lot. They go beyond just dipping the butt end of a stick or using coloured mylar on heads for the cool factor. Like, ‘let’s create a thin dip and cover the whole stick. But one that won’t mark up cymbals.’ Or ‘how can we create a coating for drumheads that lasts twice as long as our current coating’ or ‘what if we heat treated a stick like they do with baseball bats’.

[@singaporeghostclub]

I am more inclined towards Pro Marks too

[@gerodshaffer3046]

I’be been drumming for about 7 years now, but I’ve only recently joined a band. I’ve got my first gig coming up at a local bar opening for another band. Any tips for my first gig?

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

Don’t suck. lol Seriously, tho, just relax, man. Take the gig seriously and give it 100%, but don’t put too much pressure on yourself. And remember the most important thing about bar gigs. Hot chics make you play better. Unexplainable fact 😉

[@stixxnstonerz3450]

I played the Vic Firth 5b extreme for a long time. Do to budget issues I picked up a no name bag of sticks from guitar center. Those are now my favorite. Sticks are overpriced.

[@JakeStaffin]

Get yourself a pair or two of the Firegrain 5B's if possible, they will definitely last a lot longer than those. Store brand sticks are cheap because they aren't created with the same level of craftsmanship of other drumstick companies, so they will break easier and over time they will be more expensive to keep buying than a few pairs of the firegrain sticks.

[@mr.d7429]

Nice and wise decision bro! I’m sure your next move will be to switch out to Tama!

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

Mmmmm 🤔 Naaaaaah 😉

[@mattshay9393]

I used to be a Pro-Mark fan for years, but after a while, I just encountered too many sticks that felt terribly balanced, split after minimal use, and were clearly NOT pitch matched. I really love all of the stuff that Rob is talking about here as far as the Pro-Mark features (select balance, their innovation with the firegrain, etc.), but I just never felt like they really delivered. Anyone else feel the same??

[@louisvarga7282]

The Promarks of the past broke too easy. I can't speak for the present. I'm more of an assortment of Vic Firth and Regal Tip sticks myself. I've been using Aquarian composite 5b's on electronics.

[@signals34]

i used vf, but they started snapping on me...went to pro mark oak, awesome....

[@rippindrummer666]

Vic Firth have the shogun oak 5a and 5b just sayin

[@the6ig6adwolf]

Sticks are just sticks, lots of companies make good products but unless someone is sending me a paycheck for using their stuff I'm going to try everything that is available.

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

Unless they’ve made you a signature model, nobody’s sending you a paycheque to use their gear

[@LextechLighting]

I use pro mark fire 7a and love them