Why I prefer Concepts over Procreate for drawing (feature set compared)

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[@StephaneDesnault]

Hi Teoh. Great vid as always. At 1:20 you say "Procreate", when you really mean "Concepts".

[@teohontech7141]

Oops

[@omaior20]

True, it made the video unwatachable for me and I want it deleted from internet right now.

[@ssddpost]

I really did not notice that. I wonder how many other things I failed to notice during the course of my life. So sad. 🙁

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@@omaior20grrr

[@killjoy1056]

For anybody watching, his Skill Share class is fantastic and has helped me a lot. I love using concepts now when I used to only use CSP!

[@teohontech7141]

Thanks for the support and recommendation. :-)

[@killjoy1056]

@@teohontech7141 hey, you deserve it. Thanks for the great helpful free content here on KZbin!

[@AdityaRaj-cu5lk]

The way colour palettes come when you click on the centre was so cool on Concepts...

[@KevinTspirit]

Thank you for this great comparison. I have both, but didn't know their differences.

[@FrenchGrey]

Literally the best and most reliable channel out there ! Thank you very much for your content ✨✨

[@PeterJCarlone]

Teoh, I just want to say I absolutely love each and every one of your videos. Not only did I get that mouse you reviewed, but I've also gotten in to concepts because of your recommendations! Now I'm learning to draw! You have one of the best voices on KZbin, it's just so soothing and clear. I can't wait for your next videos! I works love to see you do some learn to draw tutorials, using concepts! I'd pay for a teoh drawing course!!

[@PeterJCarlone]

Omg haha I just got to the end of the video. Off to skill share to start your course!

[@clarkejones8090]

Delightful drawings/images.

[@BianicEpicVideos]

I never even knew about concepts! 😳 Thank you

[@rhoda4621]

Thank you for introducing me to Concepts, it's great!

[@suzalasuzala1135]

great video, thanx Teoh! I have been using Procreate on the ipad and Affinity photo and designer on both the windows desktop as well as on the Ipad ( gave up PS 4-5 years ago and never looked back!)

[@azumi5929]

Very informative. Thanks for the video, Teoh!

[@fonsalvarado]

I ended up using Concepts for architectural design, it has tools that help me keeping measurements and perspectives, and the new update is great!

[@TheKevphil]

Clip Studio Paint has both Raster and Vector layers, and almost every tool and brush can be used as either.

[@wizard1189]

Wait until you hear the clip studio announcement 😁

[@Player-gv5lp]

@@wizard1189 that's just for new version.. you can still use the old version like before..no need to subscribe some pass

[@TheKevphil]

@@Player-gv5lp Terms are better defined now and much more lenient. They gotta make money somehow.

[@alexandergranados1718]

Vectors in CSP are very limited. I prefer Concepts for that reason.

[@chinois299]

I sometimes replace good notes with concepts since I discovered their pen brushes and the infinit canvas, it's the most " paperlike" app for me

[@icetraya]

I really like CSP for windows because it’s much cheaper compared to Photoshop and it’s still very functional. On my iPad, however, I normally use procreate because it’s cheap and simple to use while being able to export the files in PSD and use them in CSP afterwards. Great video Teoh!

[@nurikkulanbaev3628]

Exactly what i do. I like to sketch everything and lineart on procreate. The in CSP I color the page, add effects, add text and etc. Procreate never gets in a way of ideas

[@MAXRAY-bw9kv]

BS have fun with lags because csp is so outdated.

[@MohsinKhokhar1]

@@MAXRAY-bw9kv Who cares. If it works for them, it works for them.

[@blasgarcia1454]

Concepts create vector lines, this benefit artist and designers. When exporting your art or design, you don't lose quality your lines stay fresh and clean without pixelization.

[@MAXRAY-bw9kv]

@@MohsinKhokhar1 lol work because you are drawing under 4k resolutions and like tracing. Smart people use "better’ software that have quality and got developed every year and more stable. Unlike people who justifies CSP because it’s "cheaper’ and want “trace" 3d models. In fact photoshop is "stander’’ because how outstanding this software unlike that Japanese software when most Japanese programers code their website like 1990 lol.

[@KiteoHatto]

Thanks for this, saved me buying an ipad just for procreate. Have a surface pro already and it's nice to have something with helper tools(symmetry, grids, snaps, etc) on it other than clip studio and adobe stuff.

[@vwood2]

Thank you for such an excellent overview. I use Procreate on my iPad. Since all my devices are within the Apple’s system, it works very well for me. However, the smaller file size of Concepts sounds like a great benefit! ( FYI, It’s interesting that the Essentials pack is only $10 where you are - it’s $28 here in Canada.)

[@kellylaher7512]

How timely! I have been wondering about this Concepts app! Thank you!

[@thefloorhasgone]

im downloading concepts right now! great review! :D

[@PauliePizza]

I use both concepts and CSP and infinite painter. I like concepts for architecture drawing and quick sketches.

[@ahsanulhusna]

Agreed! I love concepts app!

[@strangegames198]

Great vid. Thank you.

[@Raven5563]

I liked Concepts, but wanted more versatility/functionality with the shape tools/rulers. I love their palette.

[@darinj941]

I initially used Morpholio Trace, and I still like it for the super scaling feature, but the vector aspect of Concepts is the best. I love the clarity and sharpness, and it looks like it was done on procreate. I’ve never been too concerned over having endless brushes, so if there’s the essentials and some variety, I’m good. It’s much more streamlined. I’m a landscape architect student and this helps so much in my workflow.

[@createinside4613]

by the way. beautiful drawings!

[@AnnaKincaid]

I LOVE concepts!!!! I combine concepts with fresco so I can use the love watwr color in fresco but concepts is the best! 😍 I do have the same dislikes for the app such as no bucket/fill tool, bo blending modes amd so on.

[@dalescott3942]

Let’s hope concepts will address all theses issues soon !

[@Zilayza]

I will defininately check out your drawing class on Skillskare! Thank you

[@teohontech7141]

Hope you enjoy it!

[@dimasyudopratomo]

Thanks, very informative. I like the way you describe it.

[@alexandergranados1718]

Hello Teoh. I love your videos and I love Concepts as you. Thank you for spreading the word about it. Actually there is a fill tool and a workaround to fill your shapes. Let's say you draw a circle with the cable tool. Then select the circle with select tool and then choose the fill tool and your shape will be filled out with the color that is selected. Hope it works for you. There is not a lot of info about this workaround.

[@teohontech7141]

I've thought of that before. But limitations included having to always draw enclosed shapes, and you have to duplicate another set of lines just for the fill colours.

[@santanusk2853]

" No fill bucket tool " that could easily be the best punchline at a stand-up comedy show 🤣🤣🤣

[@CemilAL]

yeah, not as much as your life though 🤣🤣🤣

[@debojitmandal8670]

can u also compare procreate vs clipstudio

[@tracybrown6004]

I really like Concepts, but there are major omissions between the Windows/Android and IOS versions. The Win/Android version does not allow you to create palettes or custom colors. A workaround is to import a color wheel or palette into the drawing from which you can choose a color. For my urban sketches, I just import a JPG picture from my phone of the scene I'm drawing and I can select a color from it. Still, it would be nice if the developers would bring the two versions on par with each other.

[@teohontech7141]

The developers say they are trying to match the features for Android/Windows Concepts. Hopefully that can happen in 2022. It's a long time coming.

[@Dawson2011H]

For architecture, concept is better in that the auto measurement and snap to grid are great. But for creative art, procreate is far better, there is just no comparison. Procreate can also be used in place of photoshop which I personally did a lot.

[@junaustria0119]

I'm from Brunei. I can't seem to get the pro version. Any idea? You got yours in your current location?

[@corgikun2579]

14:12 omg I recognized this landmark right away

[@killjoy1056]

I love my Tab s7+ and my Tab S8 Ultra, but I have to be completley honest. Apple Penci (2) is so incredibly superior to S Pen in everyway. After using Apple Pencil with my iPad Mini 6, I hate drawing with the S Pen. I hate the squishy rubber tip because it trails and rolls around. Although I did find a nice hard white tip for the S Pen which feels so much better. It also feels too light and cheap and its hard to control because its so light. Apple Pencil is a great thickness and weight. The only Big negative about Apple Pencil is that it has to be charged to be used. I dont even use the bluetooth features on my S pen so i feel like the apple pencil really doesnt need Bluetooth when it doesnt even have wireless features like the S Pen. But the Apple Pencil has perfect pressure senses and draws directly on contact, you dont need to put pressure for it to recognize, unlike the S Pen. Oh, and Procreate is the best Pixel Drawing app out of any operating system, i like it better than Photoshop, and Adobe Fresco has both regular pixels AND vector too, and not available on Android. So as far as art goes, iPad with 2nd Gen Apple Pencil wins by a long shot.

[@gammyalade9896]

For now am using CSP on my galaxy Tab

[@alfaridarizka865]

Do you use external keyboard for shortcuts? I'd like to know

[@Raven5563]

I'm also using CSP on a Samsung Galaxy Tab s7, I use my stylus ONLY, no external keys.

[@alfaridarizka865]

@@Raven5563 Thanks for the info! :D

[@runi2453]

Me too! But procreates have more fonts and other stuff so… for now I think both of them are fine..

[@killjoy1056]

Surface Pro 8/9 really is a fantastic device, but iPad 10 and Air 4 give artists much more affordable options for making just as good artwork. i7 Surface Pro is almost $2,000 where i could get the M1 iPad Air for $499 or 1/4 the price. I really would love to get a surface pro someday, but for now, iPad and Android fits all my needs

[@teohontech7141]

True. The previous iPad models are now even more worth the money with the price drops, and the performance is still real fast.

[@deveshdaksh]

I'm planning to buy it today so please reply asap....i want ipad for procreate only....does it make any markable difference in drawing if I buy iPad air 4th gen instead of ipad air 5th gen.

[@mindwhacker]

Great video! There's no build in time-lapse recorder in Concept right? Have to manually record the screen with another app. Time-lapse feature is very important for artists as additional content.

[@teohontech7141]

Not timelapse record. I use REC Screen Recorder. It works well and records up to 1440P resolution, but doesn't seem to work with connected microphones. So if I want to record and talk, I will use the Samsung Voice Recorder, then combine the video and audio during video editing.

[@jobizs2196]

Hello Mr. Teoh, I really enjoyed watching some of your videos. I watched your review of the galaxy tab S9 FE+ and I decided to buy it. I'm an interior design student, so most of the usage will be taking notes ( in Samsung notes probably cause I use it in my S22 ultra ) and some sketches and interior designs. But am really wondering if you may help me with the best drawing app that will be very useful with my major 🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@teohontech7141]

If it's just drawing, you can go with Sketchbook, Infinite Painter, Clip Studio or Concepts

[@danieguia9289]

Hi Teoh, enjoying your tutorials! ... I recently bought a Huawei Matepad11.5 tablet and transfered the Concepts app from my old android device. Since my New device does not have Google Playstore, I can't purchase the the Essentials pack. Is there a work around for this?

[@teohontech7141]

Search for the app from Huawei App Gallery. Otherwise, you can install Gspace to get Google Play Store

[@danieguia9289]

@@teohontech7141 thanks Teoh, I was also able to watch your review on the Huawei Matepad11 while waiting for your reply and saw your recommendation about Gspace. Appreciate it!

[@rosythistle99]

hi Teoh, 🌻 thank you for reviewing stuff for such a beginner illustrator (me,obviously) anyways, I do confused about which 2in1 laptop (i need laptop for work but I love to draw too) between asus vivobook or hp envy which one do you prefer? I want a portable one but good in things that I love to do :")

[@teohontech7141]

2-in-1 laptops usually don't have good drawing performance. Personally I don't like how the keyboard folds to the back. As for choosing laptop, go with 100% sRGB screen, then consider the ports and weight. I've only tested Vivobook Pro but not Vivobook and HP Envy so I can't say much.

[@rosythistle99]

@@teohontech7141Wow, you're answer help a lot. Thank you 🌻🤸‍♀️✨️

[@tannymin4922]

@@rosythistle99 I own an hp envy 360 and it works well for doing my schoolwork. I use a Dell active stylus to draw and the performance is acceptable. Palm rejection works well on apps that have it integrated but will leave stray marks on other apps. I use concepts and have never had marks from my hand appear. I have had no personal experience with the other laptop mentioned. I hope this helps.

[@NISHUROX]

Use Asus rog flow z13 or x13

[@viciousviolet3783]

Could you put concepts on the z fold 4? Do you have any other recommendations on good drawings apps for android?

[@teohontech7141]

Concepts should work on z fold. I have a review unit.

[@viciousviolet3783]

@@teohontech7141 do you know of any other good drawing apps that would work as well?

[@viciousviolet3783]

@@teohontech7141 would love to see a video of you using concepts on a z fold 4.😊

[@vladimirsaenko215]

And what You think about Infinite Painter vs Concepts? What is better?

[@teohontech7141]

Painter is more similar to Procreate

[@macroid7206]

Hey Teoh, is the iPad Pro better than iPad Air even if they both have M1 chips and 8GB RAM? So many models so I'm confused. Also, can I use an external hard drive with my iPad? Thanks!

[@teohontech7141]

All the iPads have roughly the same drawing experience. Main differences is actually not in the drawing performance but other features. You can use external drive with iPad

[@macroid7206]

@@teohontech7141 Thank you very much

[@younqzoe]

There’s just something’s that procreate can’t do that csp can and that is why im unfortunately paying 4$/month

[@fapstronaut3671]

Hello, Teoh!, I have question for you, I have samsung tab s9 and concept seems running well, but when I zoom/ rotate etc its not really smooth experience - thats when its lagging a bit, I remember ipad pro being very smooth in procreate, although when working on larger pixel canvases, it was laggy too.. My question is, do you experience any smothness difference with concepts on an ipad? Im an architect and I zoom in/out , rotate all the time. I kinda prefer the the whole samsung ecosystem but this might be more important. Thanks!

[@teohontech7141]

For Concepts, when Android tablet zooms out, there will be white areas before the screen is redrawn. That’s the main difference from iPad. Other than that I don’t really mind working on either tablets.

[@kachima3641]

which device are you mainly using for drawing? :)

[@teohontech7141]

Surface Pro 8 and Samsung Tab S8 Ultra. Mostly using Concepts.

[@michaelzouzoukov6936]

Hi Teoh.Hope you're fine.When opening Concepts project on my surface pro 8 , a message pops up and warns me about my graphic driver.It need to be updated but through the intel website and not Microsoft update.Was there any risk to do so?

[@teohontech7141]

You can ignore that warning. But if that warning keeps appearing it's quite irritating. I can't remember how I removed the warning. I may have installed Intel Graphics Command Center www.intel.sg/content/www/xa/en/support/articles/000055840/graphics.html

[@aumbarge1236]

Teoh would you prefer ipad pro or samsung tab s8+ for illustration. I am trying to figure out which one do i get.

[@teohontech7141]

For drawing, both are on par. Samsung has more features. iPad has more graphic design apps.

[@alexandergranados1718]

​@@teohontech7141What do you mean with more features on Samsung?

[@teohontech7141]

@@alexandergranados1718 SamsungDex, desktop-OS-like file management, pen included, microSD card slot

[@spacemonkeyfighter]

As a vector art program can you export in a file format that you can open in Adobe Illustrator?

[@teohontech7141]

PDF will get you closest to how the art will look in Concepts. SVG will disregard pressure sensitivity and make all exported lines the same width. DXF does the same as SVG but has problem exporting colours. All three file formats have problems exporting textured brushes. So to get textures to look right, you have to export rasterised versions, e.g. JPG, PNG, PSD.

[@spacemonkeyfighter]

@@teohontech7141 did you see it's no longer $10 it's now only a monthly subscription for the only option so they want to just charge you forever?

[@teohontech7141]

@@spacemonkeyfighter The app should be free to use with certain tools locked behind paywall. There's the Essentials Pack (one time purchase) which will unlock more tools. You should get the Essentials Pack and not subscribe. Are you saying they are also not selling the Essentials Pack anymore?

[@spacemonkeyfighter]

@@teohontech7141 I am on the iPad and i did not see any offer for essentials pack. I only saw to have them drain your money every month for eternity.

[@spacemonkeyfighter]

@@teohontech7141 I did just find the essentials one time purchase on the windows version. It is now $14.99

[@thanhthanh5613]

Can you please give me the brand name of the black pen?

[@teohontech7141]

Microsoft Surface Slim Pen 2

[@thanhthanh5613]

@@teohontech7141 Thanks!!!

[@TheKevphil]

Teoh, have you used Adobe Fresco?

[@teohontech7141]

I've tried that but not used it often. It's a good app, it's just that it's a monthly subscription app.

[@DevilerServinal]

so you prefer it cuz the file size and it's vector based. idk if I would sacrifice other nice features of Procreate tho

[@teohontech7141]

I like the vector quality and infinite canvas.

[@teohontech7141]

I only miss the Fill Bucket and Multiply blend mode

[@VickiSchwarz]

How would you replace the Procreate Speedpaint recording part?

[@teohontech7141]

What do you mean? If you want to record Procreate speedpaint, make sure that recording is turned on in the settings, and make sure the video quality is set to highest possible (unless you have no storage space). If you want to remove the speedpaint video, just go into canvas settings for each artwork, delete the timelapse recording.

[@VickiSchwarz]

I should have been clearer, if Thu want speed paint on concepts, hit would thou do it

[@teohyc]

@@VickiSchwarz I use "REC Screen Recorder" app to record timelapse with Concepts.

[@handridesign]

is the concepts application available on laptops, windows 10, ..and my account is on android, can it be used on windows and still in pro condition

[@teohontech7141]

It can be used with Windows. But this app is best used with touchscreen devices

[@Crissybooable]

why can't I see the names of my artwork?

[@GnougnouA10]

Hi ! What tablet are you using at 12:22 ? What pen are you using ? Thanks !

[@teohontech7141]

Surface Pro

[@archer201977]

Is there a one time fee to unlock the features for this app? Like procreate has one a time fee.

[@teohontech7141]

Concepts is free to use but some tools are locked behind paywall. You can buy the "Essentials set" which has 95% of the tools. That's USD 10

[@trenton9]

Concepts has both a subscription based and one-time fee purchase option. You can buy everything for a one-time fee but not in one bundle. For one-time purchases you can unlock most things for $15. And then you can purchase each special brush for $2 each. As of now, this comes to about $40 for everything. Your purchases are platform specific, so if you purchase on Windows it just applies to your Windows version. Same thing with iOS and Android. With subscriptions, everything gets unlocked upfront and accessible to you cross-platform - Windows, Android, and iOS. You can pay $5 month-to-month or $30 for the year.

[@macroid7206]

What are the other 2 tablets called?

[@teohontech7141]

iPad Pro 12.9 and Samsung Tab s8 ultra

[@fapstronaut3671]

I was wondering how does concepts run on an ipad? On tab s9 IT seems a bit laggy. I liked how procreate run on an ipad And Im looking for the same experience with concepts.

[@teohontech7141]

Both run smooth enough for me. The zoom in and out will have white area appear first before art shows again. Happens on iPad and Android tablets.

[@ninjagruntkil5819]

Are both these tablets ipad? What is the windows tablet?

[@teohontech7141]

iPad run on iPadOS, the other tablets run on Android OS and Windows OS. The one with the little icons at the bottom is Windows tablet Surface Pro 8.

[@harunji]

Would you recomend lenovo p11 pro with precision pen as a working instrument for artist?

[@teohontech7141]

I've a review here www.parkablogs.com/content/artist-review-lenovo-p11-pro-precision-pen-2

[@nkdlive]

which windows tablet are you using?

[@teohontech7141]

Surface Pro 7

[@papamuerte5752]

Love Concepts, but I find it quite limited at tools. Infinite Painter and Sketchbook are better choices imho

[@teohontech7141]

Concepts has a very different workflow than other apps. It really comes down to which workflow you prefer. I like the absolute simplicity

[@northerngiant2915]

This is so close to helpful, but when you’re mixing up the names it makes it hard to trust which information is correct for which app.

[@reitei1756]

Hi Teoh. I was thinking of upgrading my android tablet to a huion 24 display. But i like concepts app. Do you think i can use concepts app without the touch gestures? Is keyboard shortcuts can handle all?

[@teohontech7141]

Concepts is not very usable without finger gestures. E.g. To move you have to choose move tool, then draw tool to draw, then move tool again. There are also no shortcuts for zoom in and out. There are some keyboard shortcuts. But just go download the app and try to draw with your mouse to get a feel of what you can and cannot do without finger gestures.

[@reitei1756]

@@teohontech7141 ok thanks for the reply

[@Kevin-sw7bx]

Concepts looks great, but the subscription model leaves a bad taste.

[@teohontech7141]

Just get the one time purchase Essentials set in Concepts intead

[@Nobody1332]

Could you tell me what's the model of the windows tablet?

[@teohontech7141]

Surface Pro 8

[@Nobody1332]

@@teohontech7141 thx for replying

[@omaior20]

To be honest, no offense but with your art style, you could literally draw in MS paint and your work would still look like your work (in a good way).

[@Artofizanagi]

Ngl I'm not a fan of the interface.

[@shadimurwi7170]

Zamzam water from mecca saudi arabia is so amazing tasty

[@jcsfx710]

you can't compare them both... is like comparing Illustrator against photoshop doesn't make sense... if you want to compare properly compare Affinity design against Concepts which both happen to be vector based so is a fair comparison.

[@teohontech7141]

It's a fair comparison because both are drawing apps. Illustrator can't be compared to Concepts even though both are vector apps because Illustrator is nor a drawing app, and neither is Affinity Designer.

[@jcsfx710]

@@teohontech7141 Illustrator on the iPad has the ability to draw and as a matter of fact the first iteration of illustrator on the iPad was called "illustrator DRAW"... and Affinity Designer has a vector section with a "vector brush tool" and has a second persona called Pixel so that you can draw within the vector space with pixel brushes.. so yes they both are drawing and vector programs.. I think you need to look into the iPad eco system more before making uninformed videos.

[@teohontech7141]

@@jcsfx710 I know Illustrator very well, both the desktop version and Illustrator Draw which was recently discontinued because it's so lousy. Yes, Illustrator Draw can draw but is not an app I can recommend to anyone for drawing. When I talk about drawing apps, those apps should at least have a decent selection of brushes. I don't use Affinity Designer and just discovered it actually has a huge selection of brushes. So thank you, I really need to use that more.