Why Is Kratos Aging FINALLY Revealed | God of War Theory

[@abdbay]

Solid, concrete, UNDENIABLE proof that Athena made the mask and gave it to Odin - kzbin.info/www/bejne/qJqnmqB4i5yJoLs

[@johnnyhorton2508]

Does this Technically mean that the Immortality Curse Can Be Removed or Diminished if His Powers Diminish

[@Warrior-Of-Virtue]

Part of it might be down to sheer will. In the Greek Saga, Kratos's will to live was very strong because he needed to get his revenge. After the Greek Saga, when he had no one left to fight and the full weight of his crimes came crashing down on him, he began losing his will to live.

[@arciere9986]

I like this, as if as a God he's able to self actualize and choose his own abilities, not handpicked abilities, but rather subconscious abilities

[@BellaKarim23]

He's actually older. You're forgetting Kratos himself in Ragnarok said he had once regretted not being in the Battle of Thermopylae because he was elsewhere at the time as a young general. Also, yes, Spartans married at 20, but they never left the military until they were too old to fight so 30 just meant that was the age they were expected to have reach rank in the military. Also his daughter Calliope is about 11 years old when she died, is said to have been nearing womanhood as she became a great flute player, so he had been older than mentioned at her death. Having made a deal with Ares, it is logical that he had been given extended life by the god so he could serve him. Kratos served Ares for a number of years, around 5 years or so before the murders of Lysandra and Calliope. This means that Kratos would have been about 10 years older. And we don't really know how long he was on the throne for before he started his war, but it was most likely at least a century since he STOPPED aging when he entered Olympus and dined on godly food. Would make more sense as the gods were born knowing their powers but Kratos had to learn, BASICALLY ON HIS OWN, how to be a god. Given the math Kratos is more likely 1150-1200 years old

[@abdbay]

I like this

[@kayvisioned]

So Google is right

[@TrelarysVT]

Not just that. During GOW Ragnarök, Kratos mentions briefly taking part in the Trojan war which was during the tail end of the bronze age. It's during a passing conversation when Mimir asks what his favorite piece of poetry is.

[@pimpbrothers3847]

Ambrosía and nectar were food of the gods, not the source of their immortality. You're confusing the two immortals even further. Now each food of the gods had massive regeneration abilities but only for the gods. It wasn't the source of their immortality. The food mortals eat is sustenance, just ambrosia and nectar but it's not the source of their power

[@mr.breadman4181]

I think he confused the Norse and Greek mythology version of immortality because the Greek gods are always immortal while the Norse gods had to eat the very same apples kratos had collecting in the 2018 and Ragnarok to stay young

[@Eyejrbdysk]

Depression and stress can have a physical toll on anybody, I bet if old Kratos shaved his beard to his goatee, he would resemble his younger self more than we realize.

[@nightlasher]

I personally think how gods aging works is that they’ll stop aging at some point in there lives and it’s random for each god but I think there age is just appearance and don’t affect there power and magic kinda like how Thor being fat or Balder being skinny doesn’t affect there strength

[@Theoryus636]

Check this out In gow ragnarok if you choose to do the quest of freeing the creature in alfheim's desert with atreus mimir says “ great GEFJON'S GHOST” gefjon is a goddess but not a GHOST and in a real poem odin says to loki that she knows the fate of every man even him self And mimir says that the voice told odin to get the mask across the seas and he got it from the silent matron herself Witch gefjon was a matron but ghost is something unique to her in the game so may be a goddess that is a great ghost = ATHENA In wiki “Gefjon glosses the goddesses Athena and Vesta” Maybe I’m wrong but her being described as “great ghost” is weirdly specific.

[@DigitalPand3mic]

Part of it is because hes cursed to just keep living and never die, but hes aging also in part due to him not having anyone who worships him. Thats what gives the gods their youthfulness. Which is why in the end of ragnarok, he starts crying. Seeing the image of himself in the future, except once again youthful and had people around him bowing in worship. We also see that the norse gods were all young and youthful, and we also know the norse people worshipped them. However, oden was the only one we see who looks not only old, but almost frail. But the entire story is about how awful and cruel he is, so the likelihood of him still being worshipped as much as the other gods are slim. Hence his appearance.

[@gregorysmith1402]

Also you have to think that Odin has the power to change the way he looks to present himself how he sees fit. I seen one video that Odin presents himself as an old frail man to Atreus and Kratos to come off as less threatening as possible.

[@DigitalPand3mic]

@@gregorysmith1402 While there is that, I dont think he was changing his true appearance to that extent if at all. No one else at reacted to his appearance that would lead to us believing he was doing anything to change it. Especially freya, who would be able to tell them in an instant.

[@gregorysmith1402]

@@DigitalPand3mic you’re right i didn’t think about that…freya would’ve instantly pointed that out once laying eyes on Odin.

[@emanueldargan]

@@DigitalPand3micthat doesn't really make sense Zeus was one of the most know and worshipped Gods but he aged

[@DigitalPand3mic]

@@emanueldargan He was the oldest of them so yes he looked older, but aside from grey hair he still looked youthful.

[@godbearxd]

Him having infinite revives also makes the gameplay make way more sense too. I died so many times fighting Valkyries & Berserkers I lost count.

[@manansehrawat5400]

Bro your intro hits so hard

[@Eknowledge7]

Love ur vids, never want the amazing story of god of war to ever end

[@vikrantburde8870]

From a theory I read on reddit where a redditor was doing a QnA with one of the devs, the ddv said that the Greek/Olympian gods (including Kratos) age till they reach their physical peak and then they just don't and forever stay in their prime and live forever unless they're killed or something. Kratos just has not reached his physical prime ATM, he will stop aging after he gets a whole white beard like his father Zeus and then never age after that coz he wld have reached his physical prime, other Greek gods like Hermes Poseidon etc just happened to reach it earlier and then stopped ageing. On the other hand Zeus and kratos ended up/will end up looking really old before they reach their prime and hence will be tremendouly stronger than the other Greek gods. But after they reach their prime the rate of their increase in strength, stamina magic and powerups in general will decrease. I can't find the exact article and source rn but if I do, I will link it here

[@Duriel123]

Yes. Or, something much simpeler. It is chained to emotions. Kratos feels old because he lived his past, and even tried to end it a few times. But he is not older now then Zeus was in GOW 3. But Poseidon was around the same age as Zeus. Yet Zeus seems older, aged. Poseidon was still young in itself. The same goes for someone like Hera. Who isn't older then Zeus, but aged like a grumpy old wine. Hephaestus looks not only beaten and bruised, but stripped of his youth. Its a bit of a theorie. But I believe that the negative emotion of sadness and fear have a real impact on the aging of the gods. And the same goes for happy ness and relieve. Maybe thats why Thor looks old and rugged. And heimdall looks like he just closed off puberty.

[@xFeedGamingx]

Its most likely their own way of seeing themselves. Zeus saw himself as wise and as the king of the greek pantheon. Kratos was young and rageful so he didn't really have much to say about himself. Now hes old wiser and more collected which is why we see him looking much older and probably why we hear and see him 'weaker'. Remember Kratos has tried to hide his godhood and live as a man that has to effect him like it did with Atreus when he got sick because he thought he was a mortal when he was indeed a god.

[@nathanmorefield567]

Gods could shapeshift into all types of things.

[@gregoryellory9760]

I wonder what would happen if a vampire drank some of kratos's blood

[@alexandarpetrov1275]

The book ,,Lore and legends" covered his timeline or at least he was mentioned (I haven't read it but there are explaining videos). My point is that there you can see how much time Kratos has spend in the norse realm and one of the points was: 150 years ago - Kratos arrived in the norse lands So you got it right without that info

[@darkwulf4862]

I think Kratos is a Demi-god, who rose to a god gaining immortality like the rest of the Greek gods. However, I think the ash curse was something similar to the curse placed upon Cain for killing his brother Able, he may die, but won't stay dead. Then the curse was strengthened even more by Athena at the end of 3 when she said that he would never experience an end to his suffering through death, thus even after leaving his homeland for what could be centuries, his curse will remain because Athena who has become an "Ascended god" I guess, still exists to keep his curse strong. And as we all know, greek gods are masters of holding grudges.

[@chekurirushisekhararaju3187]

Can u give me link for intro music?

[@NoCluYT]

I think their faces may age, but their strength and power only grows.

[@pimpbrothers3847]

And Kratos is cursed to never die because of his past sins. But he can still be killed by another person of equal power. He just won't fall dead like mortal means. People confuse invulnerability and immortality. Immortality is the ability to live forever while invulnerability is the ability to never be hurt. Now both ability's are impossible to have because if you were truly immortal you could die by no means at all and if you were truly invulnerability you would never get hurt, like Baldurs curse. All gods have a form of Psuedo-immortality, where they can live forever with the prospect of not just dropping dead like mortals but can still be killed by other being of equal or more power. They also have stronger durability so that lesser things can't kill them but can still be harmed. Kratos has a similar type of immortality, except he's not dependent on any type of external source. He's just cursed to walk the earth forever, because of his sins of the past. Only another being stronger than him will be able to finally kill. But because he's Kratos and wants to live for his new son, that's going to be hard. As he says in Ragnarok, "Death can have me, when it earns me". I pity anyone who tries

[@kingshinobi3501]

Who cursed him again

[@silverash896]

He can't die even if he wanted to, that's why he said “death can have me when it earns me” meaning Kratos have nothing against him dying, it's just the curse that won't let him die. Every time he dies, the universe will work themself out to make Kratos alive again, just like when thor revived him at the beginning of GoW Ragnarok.

[@llucif6r]

“kratos is cursed to never die but can still be killed”

[@woftar]

Can you make videos about Next Gow game set in Egpyt with different theories ?

[@globackx]

great video, keep it up :)

[@valdr2286]

Idk how it is in the games but to my knowledge ambrosia and nectar stop aging only if its consumed regularly. Also pretty sure hope had something to do with his immortality

[@timexyemerald6290]

NO I DISAGREE!! why is everybody forgetting that ALL Gods realm is actually resides separately from than human realms(it means only human realm, realm where modern civization exists)(also god realms have humans too). Their time line is completely separate. Kratos at least close to 1000 years old but can be waaay older. our human timeline doesn't matter to GOW lore timeline. proof: when Kratos became God of war after killing Ares. there are clear cut scenes where Modern Warfare happening in the watchful eyes of Kratos the god of war.

[@Gyeru37]

Kratos is 1055 years old

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

Gow1 ending is technically not even really what ended up happening. Considering they went on to make more games. And that doesnt necessarily prove anything anyway. We already know that gods can and will outlive mortals by hundreds, if not thousands of years old.

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

​@@Gyeru37is that the actual age or are you guessing based on the timeline?

[@vincenzoaquino8299]

Cory Barlog has confirmed that the Norse Saga is much before than Vikings Era and he even say that when Vikings will come to Scandinavia , the gods will be long gone.

[@duckgamer9449]

Alot of people forget that immortality and eternal youth are not the same thing

[@gabe7631]

i mean we've seen gods "age" they wont die from it but odin wasnt born an old man and he certainly never wanted to die. pure conjecture.

[@NoeloCard]

This is a nice theory and all, but it just doesn’t work like that in the God of War universe. Gods age. They live forever but their appearances change exactly like the humans do. Nothing overly complex about it. Also, in God of War all of them are immortal without the need of any external thing like Ambrosia, nectar and Iddun’s apples

[@gilbert60453]

Even Norse gods age look at Odin. Have never seen Odin young in any media

[@slyrith]

i wonder what will happen in the next god of war game, Great vid AbdBay

[@abdbay]

Thank you

[@Masakrealm]

What’s the name of this backround song??

[@philippchristel7637]

I thought it was normal,even the other gods did get older not just the half breeds.

[@rebelkid2373]

Black swan in the beginning

[@carlbman]

If we go to Egypt mythology he could be before the north games

[@nathanmorefield567]

gods can shapeshift

[@zackmarkham4240]

Immortality means you won't die of old age, not that you can't be killed. That's why Thor could kill Kratos. You may not die of old age, you might not even age, but that bus speeding towards you can still kill you. Invincibility is the flip of that. You cannot be killed through damage or illness, but you will die of old age. That bus won't kill you, it'll hurt and you may have a broken body when you try to get up, but you'll live. But you'll die when you get old enough, say 98 years old. Invulnerability means your body cannot be damaged by any means. Swords, bullets, illness, poison, they wont' damage you. Getting hit by a bus? Nope. But, it can still be torn apart and you can still die of old age. Indestructibility is the flip of that. Your body can not be destroyed by any means. Torn apart, joints dislocated, etc. But it can be cut, pierced, and crushed. You can still be killed by all means and will die of old age. People often combine two or more of these, but they are separate things. Immortality often means you will not die no matter what, but that is wrong by definition. Kratos won't die of old age and immune to mortal illnesses and poisons, but can can still be killed by godly illnesses and poisons, and pretty much every other way someone can die.

[@rabcoyle3408]

Hey abday ive always liked your theories, but lets be honest, the reason kratos ages is because he is demigod not full god. He has morals and principle is key. If he was ares then imagine how big the difference would be?

[@chrisdiokno5600]

Um, he IS a god, just one by apotheosis, not by birth. He's still a god

[@MSalem7777]

He’s getting older because he had a kid…these things are life sappers!

[@SwiftyWright]

wait i thought deimos was just an normal mortal.

[@MaikDreijer]

he was, this dude made a ton of mistakes this video all together lol

[@SwiftyWright]

thats what i was thinking.

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

​@@Gyeru37demigod is part god and part mortal...

[@TheSkyrimps3]

No… he and kratos were demigods.

[@martolbg2184]

You know that Zeus is the youngest Olympian, yet he looks the oldest-that's because he wanted do look older, because he can't be the leader of Olympus and look like a teen, while his siblings are in their middle age and above, so Kratos may do the same trick by aging on will

[@hitz4754]

What if it was stress 😁

[@Grey11s]

Nah all Zeus did was grow a beard like what Kratos did.

[@thanos1335]

AbdBay: Why does Kratos age? Me: Kratos has immortality so im pretty sure he ages but just doesnt die AbdBay: Yes Kratos is immortal but hes a special kind of immortal Me: Special? Wdym "Special"? I thought it was straight up immortality. What makes his special? AbdBay: Well theres different types of immortality. Me: What? AbdBay: See theres Greek immortality and theres Norse immortality and then theres Kratos immortality... Me: This is stupid! It doesnt make any sense! IMMORTALITY IS IMMORTALITY!!

[@nicolamastromarino1108]

Why should Kratos not age? He is a Demi-God and even Gods age, like Zeus, Hera and Odin himself. Kratos, as Cory Barlog said in an interviene, sinply ages extremely slowly. When a God reach his oldest form, he simply stop aging but remains immortal in that form forever.

[@Enemy_OfDaState]

In lame man’s terms, “Conditional immortality and unconditional immortality.”

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

The greek gods grew stronger the older they got.

[@demon_x9099]

Abd who would you think would win prime zeus VS prime kratos no holding back

[@morijinsbrother]

THIS is prime Kratos. he's got the age buff now, so even the version of himself in GOW 3 with all the different weapons isn't as strong as this version. same for Zeus, the younger you go, the weaker he gets.

[@theevilonerises]

the answer is simple, gods need worshipers. In Greece Kratos was a war god and had worshipers to keep him young. when he destroyed the pantheon mortals stopped worshiping him and he started to very slowly age. Now that he's the new god of peace people will start worshiping him again and he'll stop aging again.

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

No, that's not why at all. I have no idea where you got that from. They didnt need worshippers to be young. That makes no sense. If that was the case, zues would've remained young. But he didnt.

[@theevilonerises]

@@chefboiardeeznutz9881 Yeah but Zeus' hair was always white so it made him look old and he never shaved or cut his hair so it gave him a deceptively or in this case accurately old look to him. Shave his beard off and he'd look like he was still did when he fought the titans.

[@chefboiardeeznutz9881]

@@theevilonerises no. It's pretty self explanatory in GOW2 when you see him as a young man, leaving the Gaia and then showing him being a lot older, in age as well as physicality. Again, having people worship you has nothing to do with your age in this universe.

[@kingshinobi3501]

He’s more likely a god of justice than peace

[@faelock12]

I thought Kratos got his immortality from absorbing the soul of hades in god of war 3. Or was he always a god

[@Grey11s]

He was always a demigod at birth since Zeus was his father. However, after he killed Ares and took his place; he became a god. He got some of those god powers stripped from him in GOW2 but he still is far from human.

[@hitz4754]

I thought deimos was human, is zues deimos' dad too?

[@Laith_Shahin]

They're twins i think

[@hitz4754]

@@Laith_Shahin oh

[@emanueldargan]

@@Laith_Shahintf no they aren't if you actually did your research Deimos was kratos younger brother

[@Laith_Shahin]

@@emanueldargan "i think"

[@mehdiboudj5044]

Thousand not hundred

[@thedragonchannel8864]

I thought he was 906

[@brokemono]

How is he getting even stronger. Something is happening in Greece if he's getting stronger, have they started advertising Kratos to reach out to more people? They sending missionaries to other countries to talk about Kratos? Is Kratos's power fueled by the Jehova's Witnesses??? Oh my god, oh my...GOD. I think Kratos will fight Jesus next.

[@chrisdiokno5600]

It WAS planned for Kratos, Thor, and an Eygptian boi would become the Three Wise Men

[@jordanschooler3581]

❤

[@anthonybalderas6912]

Dose nobody read books godS... olny get more powerful with age

[@Midnight_x_Sin]

I guess you can say that kratos is a millennial ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@oddballzebra2776]

You do realize that the developers already answered how old he is right? They said he’s 1055 by the time of the new games.

[@abdbay]

The TRUTH Behind How Kratos Was Cursed With Immortality FINALLY Revealed - kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5THnqmPnc6IoNE

[@namelessvoid9725]

@abdbay also just want to point out that as far as the lore only the greek gods got stronger naturally the older they got but they all seemed to have a point where time didn't seem to make them look any older aka zeus looking old but jacked and poseidon and hades being older than him but looking alot younger.

[@namelessvoid9725]

@abdbay unless they changed it in the god of war verse this didn't apply to norse or other pantheons so odin and thor would die of old age one day. So imo the kratos we see in gow 4 and ragnarok will be his final look and he won't look any older than he does now and will only get stronger since he's a greek god and immortal.