Why Is Slipstream Good But Dirty Air Bad?

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@BlueAustralian
@BlueAustralian 5 жыл бұрын
Slipstream : Driving very close to the car in front of you What does it do? Reduces downforce, sends the wind over your car, helping you go faster, but also reduces stability around the corners, where this wind turns into dirty wind. On straights : Less downforce required for more speed On corners : More downforce required for more stability
@Frank-jg4tq
@Frank-jg4tq 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙏🙏
@tzalwelweetwel
@tzalwelweetwel 3 жыл бұрын
This was so much better explained
@А.Перекход
@А.Перекход 3 жыл бұрын
^ agreed
@pankaj3711
@pankaj3711 3 жыл бұрын
Ll
@dcrey7
@dcrey7 3 жыл бұрын
killed it
@timzy4395
@timzy4395 6 жыл бұрын
Now I can see why Vettel keeps shouting "BLUE FLAG"
@lwmartinez
@lwmartinez 6 жыл бұрын
HAHA
@timoficatalin3445
@timoficatalin3445 6 жыл бұрын
well he has a point
@StarryNightGazing
@StarryNightGazing 6 жыл бұрын
Not sure that showing a McLaren while saying "allows for higher top speed" is a genius idea
@spongeproskater
@spongeproskater 6 жыл бұрын
Stargazer ,Alonso "it's a joke"
@loek3577
@loek3577 5 жыл бұрын
Nowadays it kinda is
@cw0058
@cw0058 5 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍👍👍
@vs-id9yr
@vs-id9yr 4 жыл бұрын
This didn’t age well
@abramo7700
@abramo7700 4 жыл бұрын
can someone explain?
@kabelosehanka8302
@kabelosehanka8302 5 жыл бұрын
Dude, thank you for this. These two things really confused me, but you explained it so well
@aslamnurfikri7640
@aslamnurfikri7640 6 жыл бұрын
Next one should be tyres. How they work, how they are manufactured, and how they are treated during race weekend
@robinvertuinsophangconstru7488
@robinvertuinsophangconstru7488 6 жыл бұрын
Treat them with respect
@jamieplaysagamie
@jamieplaysagamie 6 жыл бұрын
For the next one do how the halo will affect the performance of the cars
@kingieav
@kingieav 6 жыл бұрын
probably wont do much apart from a little extra weight
@AtotehZ
@AtotehZ 6 жыл бұрын
+Kingie AV That's not true. We already knows that it disturbs the air flow and air intake above the head of the driver. I don't think we'll see anything definitive before the teams give their own assessments however.
@kingieav
@kingieav 6 жыл бұрын
oh yeah myb forgot about that
@mpaco9112
@mpaco9112 6 жыл бұрын
The halo also makes the center of gravity slighty higher.
@Random63R400
@Random63R400 6 жыл бұрын
That's something we can't answer for the moment the Teams must give their answers To your question
@vettelloab705
@vettelloab705 6 жыл бұрын
Great video keep this series going
@tees6675
@tees6675 6 жыл бұрын
very informative video WTF1. Well done!!!!
@Malwontae
@Malwontae 6 жыл бұрын
Matt: Top Speed... McHonda on screen... Thinking
@sebastianespejoloyaga7603
@sebastianespejoloyaga7603 6 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: Downforce differences with the Halo.
@LightSightTCR
@LightSightTCR 6 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: minigun on Halo
@sebastianespejoloyaga7603
@sebastianespejoloyaga7603 6 жыл бұрын
Eerik L According to Mercedes' video "F1 explains: The Halo" at 1:29 it says: "This thing is quite bad aerodynamically".
@jimutjayadev
@jimutjayadev 6 жыл бұрын
Eerik L anything around which air passes on the car affects its aerodynamics
@jimutjayadev
@jimutjayadev 6 жыл бұрын
Eerik L lets see what aerodynamic appendages the teams come up with to better utilise the halo
@jOoomOooo
@jOoomOooo 6 жыл бұрын
WTF DOES THAT MEAN ITS HARDLY DOING ANYTHING TO THE FLOW AT ALL I honestly doubt it would effect the downforce a lot but if anything it would help the air over the cockpit
@chainbear
@chainbear 6 жыл бұрын
Hmmmmmm
@kienpham4382
@kienpham4382 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Chain Bear
@user-cg7tj7cu4m
@user-cg7tj7cu4m 4 жыл бұрын
Get verified my dude
@souravtambe5743
@souravtambe5743 3 жыл бұрын
Woo not yet verified ☹️
@colinbriggs8998
@colinbriggs8998 3 жыл бұрын
Thought of chain hair when I saw this video
@LorenzoCorrado19
@LorenzoCorrado19 3 жыл бұрын
Richer
@benabdi
@benabdi 6 жыл бұрын
Please explain safety car restarts to new comers, and what adventage they gives in terms of pitstop and so on
@lucasvdh1938
@lucasvdh1938 6 жыл бұрын
Ben Abdi you should check out chainbearF1 he has extremely detailed and informative videos about f1 rules and aspects!!!!!
@benabdi
@benabdi 6 жыл бұрын
Loescaas i said to the newcomers man. I've been following f1 since very young man. Newcomers don't know shit yet won't care about the truth. Have you seen current Interlagos curves? Curves are meant to be attacked, not watched behind a line
@Wingbar
@Wingbar 6 жыл бұрын
Guys I really really love your videos. I always click of the thing I’m doing to watch your vids! Keep going 💫
@kian72olner
@kian72olner 6 жыл бұрын
The goods and bads of refuelling
@10babiscar
@10babiscar 5 жыл бұрын
Good: Keeps the engine running Bad: Makes your hands smell
@wizsharif1357
@wizsharif1357 2 жыл бұрын
idk how i managed to make it here but this was the most interesting thing i’ve watched this week.
@YannickMX2
@YannickMX2 6 жыл бұрын
For the next one I'd like to know how much force there is on the steering wheel, torque levels generated by the wheel and comparision to a normal road car. Simracing steering wheel are becoming a lot stronger lately, but does stronger always mean that it is closer to the real thing?
@AdrenaLukeYT
@AdrenaLukeYT 3 жыл бұрын
All toasters toast toast
@bjr2966
@bjr2966 6 жыл бұрын
I was actually thinking about what the difference was and 2 days later, this video is born.
@superstar5042
@superstar5042 3 жыл бұрын
There is no difference between dirty air and splitstream. Its the same effect called by different words. Less air helps you on straight line with more max speed, but makes you slower in corners becouse you have less downforce.
@Ramraj07Manutd
@Ramraj07Manutd 3 жыл бұрын
Best F1 channel on KZbin
@AbhishekDantale
@AbhishekDantale 6 жыл бұрын
Your best video till now. Keep it up
@armands3153
@armands3153 6 жыл бұрын
Atleast i know, when Chain Bear F1 goes to another hiatus unexpectedly, I can count on you for simple explanation videos, though I'm more interested in more complicated mechanical things.
@garethbartlett3076
@garethbartlett3076 6 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video really enjoyed this 👌👍
@ntst22
@ntst22 6 жыл бұрын
You guys can try Undercutting, or getting Free pitstops under the safety car. Or even try explaining the new tire rules or Grid penalty system for 2018
@666CaptCarnage666
@666CaptCarnage666 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid man. I also recently got my "Bwoah" shirt I ordered from the store, love it.
@sambitparida4370
@sambitparida4370 3 жыл бұрын
This was literally the first question I had in my mind when I started watching f1
@x_rod
@x_rod 6 жыл бұрын
Glad that I can watch a video that isn’t on Buzzfeed levels from your channel.
@silviomp
@silviomp 3 жыл бұрын
Now that makes sense to me. Thank you! I get off the track every time I tailgate in curves at high speeds. Games are really realistic these days.
@acruzp
@acruzp 6 жыл бұрын
This was a great opportunity to do a collaboration with a channel like Real Engineering, and you guys missed it.
@joelcontreras604
@joelcontreras604 5 жыл бұрын
Great post!
@githice
@githice 5 жыл бұрын
Trying to understand this slipstream drama from Monza to Sochi.... I shall catch up somehow
@steveellis7916
@steveellis7916 6 жыл бұрын
@WTF1 I would be interested in seeing a break down of a F1 tire, and the varying differences between the selections (wet, soft, extra soft, hard) etc
@emperorlelouch5696
@emperorlelouch5696 3 жыл бұрын
Wow, this all makes sense now. I was watching an anime and they mentioned this, so I was curious and now I understand. It's pretty cool.
@billiejean6520
@billiejean6520 6 жыл бұрын
I just love the work and effort that they put into F1 cars, for us fans to watch in enjoy
@samratsaha6029
@samratsaha6029 6 жыл бұрын
Cool animations...keep this going
@davidayona2037
@davidayona2037 6 жыл бұрын
I just grabbed a great interest in the sport of F1and i want to understand a big more of it. Why do drivers start in the place they do at the beginning of the race? How the season works? And how are the champions decided?
@weatherfan1925
@weatherfan1925 6 жыл бұрын
Next, you should cover how a dry line forms.
@GavinHitchens
@GavinHitchens 6 жыл бұрын
Do some detailed stuff about operating windows, could be for breaks and tyres or even about turbos and how the electric power torque fills to keep that operating window open
@wafflesmartano
@wafflesmartano 6 жыл бұрын
Please explain how to use the safety car to make up a place/ save your lead and in general how to use it as a race strategy.
@Matt231985uk
@Matt231985uk 6 жыл бұрын
Nice video! More like this please! Why not make a video on pit stops, race starts, crashes, strategy, tyres and more science!
@nicholascharles4399
@nicholascharles4399 6 жыл бұрын
My suggestion is: The different types of track surfaces and how they impact tyre choice.
@RayyTunes
@RayyTunes 6 жыл бұрын
That's was awesome I didn't even know there was such a think as dirty air.Thanks man.
@AshwinDivakar007
@AshwinDivakar007 6 жыл бұрын
I finally understood dirty air. Thank You
@natjohno02
@natjohno02 6 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this 😁😁😁
@rapid_tine_roddo
@rapid_tine_roddo 6 жыл бұрын
Great vid but a question what do u think is the best and worst livery and u can do a top 10 list when all the liverys come out
@armands3153
@armands3153 6 жыл бұрын
Point Blank Well, all I definitely know that Haas won't be in the last place. :) Simple and not overdone that works very well.
@ollieoxley7382
@ollieoxley7382 6 жыл бұрын
Love this series
@nigelswan1018
@nigelswan1018 6 жыл бұрын
Wow love that intro
@iamdanyc93
@iamdanyc93 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the insight; didn’t figure out there was a difference
@SheetFiber
@SheetFiber 5 жыл бұрын
Slipstreaming in straight is good, slipstreaming in corner you loose downforce.
@johnchampion6926
@johnchampion6926 6 жыл бұрын
Ground Effects - Should they return to F1?
@johnchampion6926
@johnchampion6926 6 жыл бұрын
Subi_fan I wouldn't agree fully with that, but definitely there has been some pretty dull races
@vjollila96
@vjollila96 6 жыл бұрын
Yes and make wings simple kinda what indycar is doing for 2018
@johnchampion6926
@johnchampion6926 6 жыл бұрын
Oh definitely, also it would be nice if they were brought inside the front wheels so they dont break off at Turn 1 every race
@jakobkienast
@jakobkienast 6 жыл бұрын
ground Effect takes place in present day Formula1 - it produces a quite big amount of Downforce of the car
@johnchampion6926
@johnchampion6926 6 жыл бұрын
Technically, the cars at the moment don't have ground effects. Ground effects has been banned in F1 since the early 1980s. The cars do produce downforce underneath the car but it's a minimal amount as most downforce comes from the front and rear wings
@gclarett
@gclarett 6 жыл бұрын
Do a vid on G-forces and lateral loads on tires, body roll and drivers neck.
@ryanford5387
@ryanford5387 6 жыл бұрын
Another way dirty air works is the hot exhaust fumes from the car ahead. Hot air is less dense than cold air meaning there is a less 'surface' for the wings and so on the 'push' on.
@mazehew3946
@mazehew3946 6 жыл бұрын
For the next one could you explain the difference between the nosecone shape most 2017 cars had, and the one that the toro rosso and mercedes had? (I know they have names, but I can't think of them, hope you understand what im asking) cheers!
@jacklundy4344
@jacklundy4344 3 жыл бұрын
Suggestion: How much does wind affect the car?
@sgxbot
@sgxbot 3 жыл бұрын
In short and not so complicated: Dirty air and slipstream are the same. Reduction of downforce/drag due to another car clearing the air in front of you allready which results in higher speeds on straights due to less drag/downforce and and lower speeds in corners due to missing drag/downforce.
@sgxbot
@sgxbot 3 жыл бұрын
Drag and downforce are the same just called differently depending on the situation and if its good for the car in the situation or if its bad. Same with slipstream and dirty air. Its the same thing. Its simply less air pushing the car down and back which has different results depending on what the car is doing
@superstar5042
@superstar5042 3 жыл бұрын
Yea. Explanation in video is really poor
@_VHwK
@_VHwK 5 жыл бұрын
basically you could have just said, its the same thing, its only called dirty air in corners and slipstream on straights, because you use different traits of the air blowing against depending on where you are, and what you are doing
@jamesplaysgames9901
@jamesplaysgames9901 6 жыл бұрын
I haven’t watched the video yet but it’s simple logic. While behind another car the affect of downforce is significantly reduced which is a benefit on the straights (higher top speed) but through corners you’ll lose time behind other cars because you need downforce to carry as much speed as possible through the corner.
@maykues
@maykues 5 жыл бұрын
This guy sounds similar to the guy who gives me advice before a race in Gran Turismo Sport
@hoelefouk
@hoelefouk 5 жыл бұрын
Just letting you guys know if you, WTF1, don't get this often, you guys are amazing.
@klouczech
@klouczech 6 жыл бұрын
Nice informative video. And low cooling in slipstream!
@quintenhendrickx8086
@quintenhendrickx8086 6 жыл бұрын
Explain each tier and the pro’s and cons’s of each tier plz 😃
@strikeagario997
@strikeagario997 6 жыл бұрын
Could you make a video about Ground effects for the next F101 episode?
@a.l.e.x8118
@a.l.e.x8118 6 жыл бұрын
explain what an undercut or overcut is basically the importance of strategy
@f1visionary866
@f1visionary866 6 жыл бұрын
Alexander Schlecker check out this channel, ‘Chain Bear F1’ they have lots of really short informative videos about all this stuff
@satyaashokdowluri1129
@satyaashokdowluri1129 3 жыл бұрын
Can you explain the rules of f1, what all changes have to be made in the cars each session
@DanielZellmer
@DanielZellmer 3 жыл бұрын
Next Question: How many tasks have a driver to do since one lap? how many different settings for the wings, the gears, the pedals, besides the driving (spinning the wheel and look to the opponents), to drive as fast as possible?
@Walker_41279
@Walker_41279 6 жыл бұрын
What do I want in the next F101? Tyre degradation or Setup effects
@Mike1-
@Mike1- 3 жыл бұрын
Great video thank you i was wondering how dirty air worked
@ralph0x
@ralph0x 6 жыл бұрын
You should do the difference between understeer and oversteer
@rreichertnhs
@rreichertnhs 6 жыл бұрын
You guys should do a video explaining camber
@NANGSGARAGE
@NANGSGARAGE 6 жыл бұрын
Difference between undercut and uppercut and which one should Webber do to Vettel 😝
@natteharry391
@natteharry391 6 жыл бұрын
NANGSTAGRAM TV You still in about that? Its almost 5 years ago
@simonsmashup
@simonsmashup 6 жыл бұрын
I finally realized this channel is called "wt-f1" instead of "wtf-1" :)
@evelozbert1851
@evelozbert1851 6 жыл бұрын
Next one are the tyres please Matty!
@acypher3096
@acypher3096 3 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see "DRS Explained" with animations like those used in "Why Is Slipstream Good But Dirty Air Bad?", and videos of the DRS engaging.
@swezeyauto
@swezeyauto 6 жыл бұрын
How different tire compounds are made differently
@imp4ktth
@imp4ktth 3 жыл бұрын
tldr getting behind your opponent in straight line is good, but in corner is bad
@Bazzookie
@Bazzookie 6 жыл бұрын
F1 needs to make it so more downforce comes from the underbody like what they’ve done in Indycar to improve the racing. With the ridiculous budgets of F1 they probably could produce a lot of downforce underneath the car rather than rely on a front and rear wing (for the most part).
@pikestance4219
@pikestance4219 Жыл бұрын
So the term "Dirty Air" is mostly a misnomer. Outside of the air being heated, it is really more of a lack of airflow than heated air. So low downforce tracks (faster corners) would actually promote more passing (racing) than high downforce tracks. It makes you wonder why here aren't more tracks with mostly high and medium corners. How different would racing be if it ran in late fall to early spring, rather the late spring to mid autumn.
@TheYosiFTW
@TheYosiFTW 6 жыл бұрын
0:57 **Mclaren Honda on screen** "Higher top speeds" Oh... the irony
@shauncook9987
@shauncook9987 3 ай бұрын
Slipstream is very interesting racing technique.🏎️👍🏻
@Thrashmetalkicksass
@Thrashmetalkicksass 5 жыл бұрын
That's quite clear. So basically slipstream works well on the straights because it's a "predictable" environment in terms of wind but not in the corners, 'cause the wind goes all over the place, is that right? But there's one thing I've never understood: why is increased downforce always an advantage? Doesn't downforce create friction with the ground by making the car "stick" to it? Shouldn't this slow the car down? Thanks to those who will answer, if anyone will.
@samthompson2130
@samthompson2130 6 жыл бұрын
RIP xMattyg1, I miss your F1 career commentarys 😭
@uyhu24
@uyhu24 6 жыл бұрын
ITS RACETIME ITS THE CHINEEZE GRON PROC
@thatsidewaysdud7623
@thatsidewaysdud7623 6 жыл бұрын
MAGYAR NAGYDÌJ
@jw8599
@jw8599 6 жыл бұрын
perseus 'There's a prick on pole and a prick in 8th ... On prick tires'
@snipasean7069
@snipasean7069 4 жыл бұрын
I used to think dirty air was just the exhaust fumes when I was little
@qsr6838
@qsr6838 4 жыл бұрын
Your not wrong that also make dirty air
@johnvanoevelen2
@johnvanoevelen2 6 жыл бұрын
For the next oneyou should do Mechanical Grip 101
@filipgalis252
@filipgalis252 3 жыл бұрын
2:04 110 °C
@Rishi3404
@Rishi3404 3 жыл бұрын
I like how he used his channel name on the cars
@JR-cm9sh
@JR-cm9sh 2 ай бұрын
I was looking this up to find good info for nascar racing. funnily enough a formula 1 video explains it best.
@latostime9849
@latostime9849 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure if this video still has valid argument cause i dont see this thing happen in actual F1 race in nowadays. Every driver are racing closely behind each other in straight line and even when in corner.
@afcreative22
@afcreative22 6 жыл бұрын
I'm the 101st like on an F101 video. I find that pretty funny.
@ChandlerSeita
@ChandlerSeita 6 жыл бұрын
you should pair up with ChainBearF1, he does the kinds of videos and i don’t want you to take over these types of videos so it would get hopi. more exposure and keep you guys on equal ground in the informative videos
@josefwinter3097
@josefwinter3097 10 ай бұрын
Hey AJ it's Joe dad has been watching your videos
@frdrcojerry
@frdrcojerry 6 жыл бұрын
0:36 any video of this ?
@nicholasjohnson7104
@nicholasjohnson7104 6 жыл бұрын
Basic geometry of a modern F1 car
@JosephGamer20
@JosephGamer20 6 жыл бұрын
I would like to see and know how “telemetry and sensors’’ work for a Formula 1 team I have have always wanted to know about that
@jebus89
@jebus89 6 жыл бұрын
If you want a better explanation watch chain bear F1's video on this. He talks slower and gives better diagrams which are easy to follow
@mohammedteleb598
@mohammedteleb598 3 жыл бұрын
The video doesn’t reflect your explanation. You plotted both the dirty air and slipstreaming on the same scenario
@wingerplayz420
@wingerplayz420 6 жыл бұрын
Do on how halo will affect the 2018 cars compared to 2016 or 17 cars
@kabirf1670
@kabirf1670 3 жыл бұрын
If so, then why is DRS zone on straights and not while cornering? DRS is much needed in corners than straights, as on straights the car behind is getting the advantage even without DRS. Please explain
@Hairyson-g5j
@Hairyson-g5j 3 жыл бұрын
Drs reduces drags AND downforce, as in if you use drs in corners, you’ll be even slower than not using it
@JerryCrow
@JerryCrow 3 жыл бұрын
Isn't it obvious? Downforce is relative to drag.
@NGXII
@NGXII 6 жыл бұрын
Does anyone know if there has been an effort by any team to optimize their aero package for running in dirty air?
@looktothefuture84
@looktothefuture84 6 жыл бұрын
You've been speaking to Alex, haven't you? He's bascially a racing driver you know.
@strikeagario997
@strikeagario997 6 жыл бұрын
I think to make F1 less boring or dull, the car had to be less draggy and so on the overtake could be more possible, They need to reintroduce ground effects. The ground effects works as the wind (or dirty air) from the car behind suck to the beneath of the car creating more downforce as a result. It also reduce the dirty air that comes to upper side of the car meaning the car could still close by even though it's in corner. Other things to do is to make rules about aerodynamic simplistic, front wing that simple like the formula e and indycar 2018 may had work to navigate the slipstream more efficient that way the car behind could following the car at front easier than before. The very usual thing that every team ( especially ferrari and mercedes) would do is to add extra aerodynamic hardware on the front wing, the undertray, or even the rear wing. Because there's no rules in f1 to mandating the universal bodywork. meaning the teams are not allowed to change or add some or more thing in the car to make them had more advantages. If you see formula e, they all had different engine configuration but had the same chassis without any modification because there's formula e rules to banned any chassis modification on the car. meaning the area that the teams could only work at is on the engine or so you called motor. This rules also reduces cost a LOT because the teams are only work at the motor components. Meaning they would spend their money to buying the chassis and the parts of the chassis without having spend it again to developing it. F1 Really need to be attractive again, and by making the championship had less restricken and the revenues to the teams are prevalently distribute. that way making the championship are equal and thus the only thing that work is the drivers an the mechanics.
@lewisrundle4367
@lewisrundle4367 6 жыл бұрын
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