Why is this so expensive?!

Today I check out the new EKWB Quantum Magnitude Waterblock which they claim is the best waterblock on the market! So let's tear it apart and have a look.
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[@afinney88]

Welcome back Jay. Hope you’re doing well!

[@davionwest9300]

I should ask you what happened to him you seem to be a bigger fan than me and have more info

[@tippiebekfast]

@@davionwest9300 surgery

[@davionwest9300]

@@tippiebekfast ok thx for telling me

[@Totem9519]

@@tippiebekfast what surgery?

[@desmofan1864]

As a machinist, I appreciate the massive over-engineering of this block and all of its intricate new features. As a consumer, I'd absolutely shop further down the product stack, and I really like EK's stuff 😐 The few potential degrees gained aren't worth the price to me, nor do I flex the costs of my rigs. There's beer to buy, dang it!

[@Tiger313NL]

I don't drink beer, but I perfectly get the sentiment. :)

[@computaterjones]

I definitely grinned when he mentioned tapered holes. But I'm definitely not gonna spend 200 bucks for it though.

[@RichWhiteUM]

You could always switch to Bud Light. I hear it's relatively cheap right now. 😁

[@gcl2783]

Please elaborate on this beer cooled rig you've built.

[@Miles7955]

@@letalissonus Personally I prefer the Acetyl variants, as I don't want something that's going to blind me, when I look at it.(I get you can turn RGB off, but anyway) I specced both my GPU and mobo block are Acetyl, as whilst RGB 'can' add a nice theme to a PC (Via fans, or strips) I don't feel every. single. component should be lit up like a Christmas tree. Edit (5 seconds later): My own build (In a Corsair 900D) only has RGB strips around the inner part of the case, Nothing internally, fans/mobo/coolers/RAM, or anything else has RGB.

[@dawilko1982]

i would love to see a waterblock comparison from like bargain to top range just to see what temp savings you get for the extra money.. simple setup like mid range cpu, 360 rad and maybe a graphene thermal pad to try keep paste variations out of equation so only main variation is the waterblock.

[@rvman3359]

This is a great idea. Show us the difference between bargain, mid range and expensive on the same cpu so we can understand just how much better a cooler block you get for your money. Where are the diminishing returns compared to bucks spent.

[@vasiliosf2091]

I LOVE this idea! I just built a new pc and went with AIO for now but want to look into doing a custom loop later on down the line. That would help me A LOT!

[@StarStrider09]

I want this to happen too. I just bought a thermaltake pacific w9 and finding comparison temp data between waterblocks is almost non existent.

[@alvabravo5655]

I bet that waterblock aint gonna give u a huge different of performance compare to my $50 bykski waterblock.

[@warpedphreak]

FFS, this has been done to death and SOOOOO DAMN EASY to locate via simple google search for... what... a decade??? Bottom line, typically 1-4C range depending on block. CAN this make a difference? of course. Will quality make a huge difference over time? OF COURSE!... and Bykski is certainly not known for quality LMAO

[@cyclechris6591]

Would love to see a temp comparison with this block and the v2.

[@ChrisWijtmans]

I was expecting it but got nothing.

[@mromutt]

@@ChrisWijtmans Yeah I was also kind of expecting a quick temp test. Maybe thats the next video haha

[@cadetsparklez3300]

would love to see against a heatkiller and also a cheap one and see it lose in performance and get embarrased on price

[@112Famine]

You mean EKWB's EK-Quantum Velocity² - It hides the screws & looks like an 1980s audio cassette tape are the only changes I think, & yes I like the looks of the Velocity² much better, I was a kid during the 80s & everything was cassettes before CDs came out. LOL we'd put 8-tracks out in the car to been seen from outside so no one would want to steal our car stereos... back in the day when every car had chrome bumpers.

[@ChrisWijtmans]

@@mromutt nah its just his style to leave us hanging. happened to me before.

[@blindphotographer7636]

Glad Jay is back, I hope the rest of the team keeps putting up videos too! If you guys split up the workload, I know your videos and channel will get even better than ever.

[@mikemoran98]

Good to see you back and healthy Jay. Phil and Nick did great! Would be great to see them host stuff more regularly. Y’all make a fantastic team. Cheers.

[@rustler08]

Well, minus that horrifically-stupid 4060 Ti video. Absolutely shocking that they reached a conclusion that reflected a sentiment shared about absolutely no one. Even Linus, trying to stay as positive as possible, didn't agree. They need to learn how to do more research and communicate with other reviewers, because that's the only reason I can see them reaching such an ill-draw opinion.

[@gamerhemanth2369]

Which surgery did Jay undergo

[@Sgt_SealCluber]

Looks like you can get that exact block direct from EK for roughly $197 shipped to the US currently. Still pricey, but I think it's at the upper limit of what most people would spend. Current prices I personally wouldn't spend more than $150 unless I had to have a specific block for the look, or it was one of the VRM+CPU blocks.

[@doubleas88]

If their cpu blocks are pushing $200 I don't even want to know what they are charging for their mono blocks now...

[@rustler08]

I would pay $150 max. It's $120 for Optimus, and EK usually performs at the bottom when compared to the best of the best for waterblocks like Optimus, TechN, Heatkiller, etc. You're just paying for looks, not performance

[@theironangel767]

I agree Jay, I think recent waterblock pricing is beyond insane. I would also LOVE to see someone test the difference between the older model and the new one.

[@OutOfNameIdeas2]

There is no difference.

[@adhdturtle37]

DazMode lab does a lot of water cooling tests

[@stevekristoff4365]

completely agree. would never spend that amount of $$ for a WB. you don't need it at all to remove the heat, you just need a decent flow rate and radiator. And the comment on DD waterblocks, lol, I still have a bunch of of them and still use them. They work just fine 20 years on. :)

[@Banditt42]

What isn't expensive these days. I will be holding off on a new build for a long time.

[@cl4ster17]

RAM and SSDs are getting cheaper and cheaper.

[@diamondheat9]

At this point it feels like Ekwb is the Nike equvalant of Watercooling. Paying mainly for the name.

[@diamondheat9]

@@cl4ster17 Ram and SSDs are probably getting cheaper because manufacturers/ distributors need to get rid of inventory to make room for PCI-E 5.0 RAM/SSDs.

[@cl4ster17]

@@diamondheat9 The manufacturers are currently sitting on months worth of inventory which they can't get rid of as there is way less demand than they anticipated. Hynix, Micron and Samsung lost tons of money because of this.

[@TheJomoe1]

stuff isnt gona get cheaper. especially if your gonna be waiting a long time. thing dont usually get cheaper into the future. just saying....

[@irdmoose]

YAY! Welcome back Jay! Hope you're feeling better and the recovery is going well. Nic and Phil did a great job covering for you, even with the whining about the 4060 review (which I felt was pretty balanced).

[@VeritasEtAequitas]

Yeah, that was overblown too

[@Unboundiing]

Mmm I disagree personally but eh

[@sopsopfifi]

It is what it is. Things happen and we all make mistakes. But we still love you and will move on, to watch another awesome video from you and your team 😊

[@davidellis1355]

I didn't have a problem with the review, just a different view point

[@imgonnacream]

​@David Ellis a view point out of touch with reality

[@silvereagle6985]

I'm glad to see you back! Hope you're feeling better!

[@MalcontentYouth]

Glad to see you back, don't worry your guys had it under control. Love your channel.

[@FixCongress]

Welcome back Jay. Hope you’re feeling well. Yeah man, almost everything has skyrocketed in price of the past few months. Especially anything pertaining to water cooling

[@sergentboucherie]

As Jay was reading the description from the EK website I got flashbacks from the turbo encabulator The kids did a good job while you were not home, I would love to see more custom keyboard.

[@Cragun.]

Welcome back ... and great, in-depth review. Nice to see inside an expensive waterblock like that - you know what you're paying for.

[@jayjayspcbuilds]

welcome back Jay.. glad to see your better... awesome vid... 👍👍👍👍

[@Krashulka]

For that price I think it should include the pump, hoses and radiator. With todays CNC machines being easy to reproduce stuff like that very cheap, it should be a lot cheaper, or include what I mentioned above for the current price they are selling them for. BTW, I hope your feeling better mate, Cheers.

[@bricktronics]

Welcome back Jay. Looks like it is well constructed and very high quality but unrealistic at this price. If money wasn't an object, it would be my first pick.

[@TheJjjoj]

Nah, buy an Optimus block and you won't ever want this. Better performance and build quality and even the unibody signature blocks are less expensive than the overpriced magnitude series from EK.

[@bricktronics]

@@TheJjjoj great suggestion, those look nice and love their prices

[@TheJjjoj]

@@bricktronics Well, their prices aren't great either but at least optimus actually uses materials and processes to warrant their prices. Cast acrylic, electroless nickel plating, and ceramic coatings like cerakote are all individually 2-5x the cost of EK's extruded acrylic, electroplated nickel, and anodization.

[@pavelgajdik7486]

@@TheJjjoj Optimus or Watercool Heatkiller IV Pro, depending on your location, both perform similarly, just Optimus is not available outside US. My 1st block was Heatkiller, then I Tried few others and eventualy went back to Heatkiller which I am currently using with 7800x3d.

[@malphadour]

@@pavelgajdik7486 The Techn blocks seems to be the best on the market at the moment, beating even Heakiller IV's buy about 2 to 3c, but they are hard to get hold of outside Germany - a good price at 130 euros and the reviews all say the same thing, their build quality is unbelievable - also don't use with Pastel. Personally I would probably go with the HK IV because availability is great in most regions and pricing is excellent - also EK's build quality seems to get more questionable year on year.

[@TheLambo5]

its good to see you back jay ! i watch atleast one of your videos a day, ive been so incomplete without you. i am whole.

[@nonyabusiness7639]

Welcome back Jay! Good to see you are back and kicking! 😀

[@cmraz]

My Barrow 3 in 1 with LCD and manual pump controls was $150 and has been solid at 100% for 2 years now. Also welcome back Jay.

[@samthemultimediaman]

You can still build budget water loops, the am4 corsair block is still around $75 you can get a rad for $25, you can get pumps/reservoir for $25, but their reliability isn't that great so its probable best to spend more on that.

[@candlesticks5438]

Welcome back! Its nice to see youre recovering well.

[@454firemanblaze]

Glad to see that you are back in the SHOP and that your recovery is going well.

[@silviofernandes69]

Jay you need to compare that block with a budget block from alphacool ir barrow where on europe you can find them 40/50€

[@stamper810]

Good to hear Jay not afraid to call things out as too expensive after a fair evaluation of the block.

[@N1c0T1n3__]

I didn't know this, but most watercooler enthusiasts consider EK as the "Apple" of watercooling.

[@Xenoray1]

you should look up for singularity computers, thats the expensive stuff, ek more like google vs apple

[@DanielFrost79]

Good to have you back Jay. Hope everything is great. 👍

[@tonyfoxley]

hey jay hope you are taking it easy and are on the mend nice to see you back :) all the best

[@th0m]

I've been struggling to figure out where the $100+ upcharge comes from when compared to something like a heatkiller or optimus block. Honestly kind of confusing to someone saving up for and trying to rationalize my first custom loop (7900x, 360aio isn't cutting it though derbauer's offset bracket helped)

[@ChrisWijtmans]

still better price/performance/quality than AIO.

[@glebglub]

have you tried undervolting your 7900x? iirc, you lose 5-10% performance but bring its power (and thence, heat) down by 100w

[@icedreamer9629]

Here's an idea: Don't buy the absolute top of the range for your _first custom loop_ maybe? Maaaaybe just be sensible and, I dunno... Buy something cheaper? This is the halo product, you're clearly paying for aesthetics and badge. If you have to keep track of a budget _this product was never intended for you_ and that's OK.

[@th0m]

​@@glebglub absolutely! slowly getting there.. Was tuning it between the oh-so-wonderful weekly uefi updates until asusgate news started being more than a few people getting downvoted into oblivion for stability complaints. Kicked on 100w eco mode and disabled expo until this past weekend, slowly working on stability testing the per-core CO. At full defaults without eco mode though you're totally right it was much, much worse.

[@BleepBlop-rh9lm]

Plus, Heatkiller is better in every way LOL

[@Elvewizzy.]

That block has been out for years and never really sold well. It's been on sale for a good while now, still always in stock.

[@lafuriag8932]

Welcome back Jay wish you the best in health Thank you for every videos You the man

[@Linuxgurugamer-vr1vw]

Welcome back, glad to see you are doing well

[@radugrigoras]

With all the manufacturing that’s involved and CNC machining I think the price is very fair. Is it worth it compared to some simplified stamped parts I don’t know, without a performance test it’s hard to say, but from simply a component manufacturing cost to selling price I don’t think they are gouging at all. So for a cost to sell price then yes it’s worth it, from a performance to price ratio, don’t know.

[@remcodekker2783]

Most people don't understand that machining things that need to perform and look nice will cost a lot to make. The smaller the tolerances the cost will go up fast. It takes better machines, tools, programming and time

[@eliadbu]

EK prices have skyrocketed in several years. While I really love their designs I can't justify spending that much (plus from what I've heard quality control went down). when I will upgrade my old system that has custom watercooling I will probably go for parts from aquacomputers and/or alphacool.

[@paulgilbert9346]

Hi Jay!! Glad to see you back 😊. Hope your surgery went as well as mine has! Keep up your great content!

[@chrisb1352]

Welcome back Jay! And kudo's to Phil and Nick for doing such a good job holding down the fort! ;)

[@MiddleofKnowhere]

The best thing about Performance PCs is they have sales frequently. You can reduce the ludicrous cost of water cooling components by taking advantage of those sales. For instance, they just had a Memorial day sale and you get X% off based on how much you spend--usually ranging around 10-15% off + free shipping. Every bit helps. Glad you're back Jay. Hope all is well.

[@motorcharge4025]

The 10-15% codes are a bait and switch. You lose the free shipping when you use the codes and they charge shipping based on order amount rather than actual shipping cost. Unless you're placing a very expensive order the codes are usually a worse value than the regular free shipping is.

[@MrVlodato]

This type of thing happens with R&D and pricing. The problem with a company like EK doing it VS Nvidia is their products have no intellectual property hurdle. You cant reverse engineer a GPU like you can for something like a water block. Eventually other companies will just make the product for far cheaper, it just takes time to catch up. Look at keycaps for example, companies like GMK were charging a premium and no one was really in their league at all, but now other companies are now within reach or even better then GMK and are charging a fraction of the price.

[@letalissonus]

Ironically, EK is one of those that used to be notorious for creating cheaper knock-offs, preferring always being the first to offer products and being known to have them in stock over creating actual quality products. There's sadly only very few reviews comparing water cooling blocks, but of the few I encountered EK's blocks always tend to be on the lower end - abysmal flow and bad to mediocre temperature deltas seems to be a very common thing with them. There's even been a few occasion of them stealing design ideas straight from pictures of other manufacturer's prototypes. Not to mention their preference for extremely cheap acryl glass - it might be the better choice for slapping RGB onto everything due to its transparency, but compared to e.g. acetal it's a really bad choice if you want durability. Acryl glass cracks easily and will develop micro fissures after a few years, which may at some point cause leaks. If you're like me and don't like replacing your entire PC every 3 years, using an excessive amount of acryl is a really bad idea. Just as a reference, Watercool's TR4/SP3r2 Threadripper/Epyc block is just half as expensive as that EK cooler, while being a single massive chunk of over 1kg of copper that covers the entire giant heat spreader. It performs extremely well, especially compared to EK's TR solutions, because they still put actual engineering into that block instead of just throwing more copper onto the problem - many of their products are actually follow-ups of custom designs developed for industrial customers. The difference in material cost is so huge that trying to explain these EK price increases with R&D is just pure BS, they're just money-grabbing.

[@malphadour]

@@letalissonus This. Watercool, alphacool, XSPC, all making comparable products that sell for less than half the price.

[@adt1391]

Glad you are doing good Jay! Welcome back!

[@jad1920]

Good to see you back Jay. This is like those times that we would need to test to see if the extra thermals are worth

[@jimmysilviotti9098]

Glad you’re back! I love PPCS, I always buy my watercooling stuff from them. Luckily I live in Florida so shipping only takes like 1-2 days…I like minimal wait time haha

[@toddsherman812]

Warms my heart to see you back Jay. Hope you're doing better. Praying for you.

[@ryzenlaboratory487]

Welcome back Jay !!!! Nice to see you 😊

[@ChrisLaneification]

Glad to see you're back man!!! We've all missed you.

[@johnmccann1960]

Welcome back Jay, nice to see you mending well.. take care of yourself man.

[@TheAngelOfDeath01]

Hey old man. Welcome Back! Glad to see you are up and about, properly and well.

[@susantompkins8810]

YAY! Missed you Jay, I hope all is well and you are doing better❤

[@camshaft989]

Good to see you back at it !!

[@josephalavazo6547]

Welcome back Jay Glad to have you back

[@aaronmcneal1698]

Glad to see you back. Hope everything went well and you're fully recovered

[@bryanwhite433]

Welcome back Jay!!! Glad to see you healthy and back in front of the camera!

[@stephenbaillargeon296]

Welcome back Jay glad to see your back. Nic and Phil did a great job when you were out

[@zodwraith5745]

I had a Danger Den block. Those are the days we were using eheim aquarium pumps, medical tubing, and radiators taken from cars for oil or transmission cooling. That's when we used cold cathode tubes for lighting too. Open loop components are so stupidly overpriced now day's I've just gone to AIOs.

[@brandonroeder2461]

I'm still using alot of those things. Tygon 3603 lasts forever, my Eheim Innovatech pump/resevoir is still silently chugging away, my modified CoolIt Freezone keeps up with a 5800x3D, and even the liquid (Feser1 transparent blue) has only had tiny amounts of distilled water added to it over the years and has never been replaced. Only the block has been replaced to match the CPU. The original was a Danger Den MC-TDX 775. On top of all that, it was the first loop I ever built back in 2007. 😂 It's practically an antique but still works great.

[@zodwraith5745]

@@brandonroeder2461 It helps that pumps and tubing are cheaper. It's just those blocks and fittings that are insane anymore. My 360 AIO costs less than most blocks today alone. I miss having a reservoir though to have that extra mass to soak heat.

[@brandonroeder2461]

@@zodwraith5745 luckily the older fittings I have are G1/4, and screwed right into the newer Corsair XC-5 block I bought on sale for like $45. I'll probably have to pay more than I want to replace this pump eventually, but that's how it goes. Those AIO's are nice, but I like building my own stuff.

[@zodwraith5745]

@@brandonroeder2461 We didn't have dedicated fittings in '00. It was barbs and hose clamps baby!

[@brandonroeder2461]

@@zodwraith5745 I missed out on that, thankfully! 😂

[@Im_MarkS]

Good to see your back Jay

[@RohitSingh17219]

Good to see you back Jay ! I hope you're doing well. Delighted to hear your voice again.

[@Chef_-xv7ms]

Welcome back Jay hope you are feeling much better! and this is an amazing video where you explain really well about water cooling and thanks to you and your team we don't have to buy it before we know what's the diffirence in cooling and price diffirence! but Jay it's so EXPENSIVE! l done my fair share of custom loops but the way the prices are heading l am more happy to use all in one closed loop!😜 but thank you aging was a great Video as usual!

[@disguiseddv8ant486]

There was nothing wrong with him. I've said it in the video that he made talking about he had under gone a "major surgery" and will be recovering for over a month. It was all to "save face" and redirect the viewers attention off of Phil 4060 Ti video that was taken down to the viewers being sympathetic because he knows that the majority of male viewers are like emotional females.

[@DominicVizor]

Good to see you back Jay!

[@Lando_Cannabissian]

Welcome back Jay!!!

[@KamikazeCaleb]

Glad you're back, Jay! :)

[@wrathreborn0]

Glad you're doing good! I love that MegaMan figure in the background. It was a Kickstarter launch a long while ago. I have the Kickstarter exclusive color and the New York Comic-Con variant.

[@deanmorse9628]

Glad to see you back. Hope you feel better.

[@ScottGrammer]

Nice to see you're back. Especially after seeing your front! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 J/K, glad you're back, Jay.

[@richardpinter4688]

I was (finally) able to get the 216 RGB black( white was in stock for a long time but not my taste), and I love it, a very nice looking case.

[@wile-e-coyote7257]

Welcome back, Jay! Hope you are healthy and doing well!!

[@robertosorio7919]

Good to have you back, Jay.

[@sopsopfifi]

Nice to see you Jay Much Love..!

[@BigMasterSabre]

Hi Jay :D Glad that you are back.

[@Salfordshire]

Thanks pal keep them coming.

[@karanbedi270]

Welcome back jay !!!!

[@Dan-Simms]

Welcome back Jay! Darn it sucks your surgery lined up with Computex, I would have loved to see you there, oh well, such is life. Glad to see you back though!

[@lordhades9736]

Glad to have you back Jay.

[@kenwolf6842]

Welcome back jay!

[@bijiont942]

Welcome back Jay!

[@stevenanderson3205]

Nice to have you back Jay.

[@marksadler4457]

Welcome back Mr. Jay!!!

[@navarropuff187]

Welcome back, Jay!!!

[@davekelloway3337]

Welcome back, Jay! Nick and Phil did a solid job in your absence but good to see you feeling up to getting back to work.

[@randallgreen4084]

Good to see you are back, your cohorts did a great job while you were slacking.

[@oleksiilisovyi3832]

Welcome back man!

[@bpmiller87]

Welcome back! I hope we get to see more of Nick and Phil in front of the camera for their own segments.

[@hbdude155]

welcome back Jay!

[@axatassabrae]

Welcome back, Jay. Keep up the recovery. Heal well

[@akirafan28]

Welcome back Jay! :D

[@ph0t0dave]

Glad to see you back Jay! I've been watching your channel since nearly the beginning and greatly appreciate your honest opinions. So thank you very much for your honesty! Kind of like you, Im an old dog and I have been building computers for a good 30+ years and water cooling for the last 14 or 15 years. As for EKWB I think they are trying to be the "Apple" of the water cooling world, but at some point given how much competition they have, they may learn a hard lesson if their stuff stops selling as much as they would like. Don't get me wrong, they have some nice quality products but they are quickly approaching a point where their products are not accessible to the vast majority of builders. After my last issue with one of their products and the insane hoops they made me jump through to warranty a blatantly obvious factory defect, I have washed my hands of EKWB and will probably be a very long time if/when I buy any more of their products. Even that aside, these new blocks would be a hard no for me.

[@marcm.]

I know that because of the way you measure pressure in a hydraulic system in any form of liquid system, you consider it a pressure drop. It's actually a pressure gradient, more specifically pressure is theoretically produced by something being in the way. So on the side above the obstruction from the direction of flow you see a significant increase in pressure whereas of course on the other side you see a significant decrease in pressure. I know I'm being pedantic but it really bugs me because the design is not to reduce the pressure drop the design is to maintain laminar flow, and it's often indicated by a pressure gradient difference but not always... This technicality actually matters in so much as what their designing and how they're achieving the heat transfer

[@user-ld2og4zf8j]

Glad to see you are back and okay

[@midoribushi5331]

I am glad you are back and healthy, Jay. Good vibes, dude. Should definitely bring nick and phil to do more videos though they did a great job.

[@DoNotFitInACivic]

Welxome back, Jay. TBH the crazy price increases to do a custom loop is why i have an Optimus CPU block, 9 feet of ZMT hose, and a 0.93 hp chiller. Upfront us cgeaper and even with the power usage, i can buy a lot of electrons for the delta.

[@juanrondon3797]

Completely agree, prices for most ek blocks are out of control lately, sure it’s a nice block and someone said to me it’s not the cost of the materials, it’s the design that drives the cost up but still pretty steep imho.

[@Mr3ppozz]

Welcome back Jay! Hope you're doing well!

[@samrec]

Welcome back Jay, I hope your recovery is going well.

[@redmacechaosborn]

Welcome back, Jay. This is clearly a premium niche item. However I question the mounting on this design. That rubber gasket will "relax" over time a lot quicker than metal would, especially under a heat/cool cycle. It means you would probably have to regularly check the torque on your mounting screws. (FYI there are Torque screwdrivers to do this, that click when its tight enough without damaging, although I am unsure of any standard)

[@GrandAdmiralHamilton]

Great to see you back Jay! 😃👍 Would love to see a comparison between the Magnitude block and the Velocity2 as I thought the Velocity2 was EKs top-of-the-line block when I got it. 🤔

[@gordyboy01]

Welcome Back Jay. Phil and Nick did an awesome job in your absence 👍

[@andymelbourne6269]

welcome back jay looking well

[@tommyblack4564]

love the water cooling vids.

[@WilliamSmith-hi5zi]

Welcome back, Jay!😀

[@alvabravo5655]

jay, glad to have u back and can u compare that block to cheap bykski or aliexpress block

[@TheRoamingbison]

I have fond memories the golden age of overclocking and the early water cooling market. I've still got a box somewhere in my closet with various blocks including Danger Den and a 24v industrial water pump and its separate power supply. I used a 12v automotive relay to start the pump when my computer powered up. Nowadays the gains from custom water cooling are so small I just slap on a CLC and call it a day. I get my tinkering fix from other hobbies like 3d printing.

[@fredjohan1666]

Happy to see U back 🙏 Jay We missed U.. hope everything is ok now.