Why JENSEN ACKLES Left SMALLVILLE Early

[@FatimaTomsEnough]

Hoping Jensen will be on the podcast before Season Four wraps!

[@annamcuthbert3993]

That would be good

[@scottwilson3741]

They've got 4 episodes left. Maybe the finale

[@Trekapedia]

I’d love it but he may be busy doing the show with Justin Hartley I think it’s called Tracker?

[@FatimaTomsEnough]

​@@annamcuthbert3993 It will be awesome!

[@FatimaTomsEnough]

​@@scottwilson3741 I think they can fit him in "Forever" too!

[@lindamawdsley6130]

Love the way Michael asks Al whether he thought they had “dropped the ball”😄

[@5150crazyfun]

I loved Jensen in Smallville and even more in Supernatural. By far one of my favorite episodes in season 4 is Transference because of Tom and John having to act like each other lol 😂

[@kman20]

I love the honesty that comes out of Al. I wish he was part of the podcast on a permanent basis.

[@jflores85]

Jensen just getting waisted by the asteroid what cheap but it was also funny. The big picture of him being in Supernatural was worth it.

[@heatherrosetarot]

Good segment with Al. I think he cleared up a lot of questions

[@_MrLee]

I hope TalkVille continues after the Finale... There's way more Fan content out there to be discussed amongst the actors and Ryan.

[@alexandersison2030]

I would love to see Michael and Tom go through some of the comics, novels and other tie-in stuff created for the show. Especially stuff like the Chloe Chronicles stuff. See them interview and call up some of the creatives involved with coming up the stories for that stuff. Because it was always interesting seeing the "resolutions" for characters like Emily Dinsmore's clones which you were never sure would ever pop up on the show again, have some resolution in a sense. Also pretty interesting that all those tie-in stuff about the Luthor machinations with clones, etc. that kept happening actually pay off eventually with Lex's return in the finale.

[@TheJjcczz]

Going near anything Chloe related is playing with fire. You’d have to be crazy to do that because the second you do people are gonna bring up Allison Mack. They need to stay as far away from her as they can

[@bryanismyname7583]

@@TheJjcczz : which is sad, because she contributed a lot to the show.

[@Eternaldarkness3166]

I'd love to see Michael, Tom, Jensen and Jared in a series together.

[@Carloszavalalol]

Charlie's Angels reboot

[@danielanderson8322]

Interestingly, season 5 of Supernatural was the show at it's strongest

[@Maca494]

well, yes, cause it was suppossed to be the actual last season, so it all was being threaded to a wrap. They clearly were following from point a to b and not only doing "ok, this season baddie this"

[@josephnolan8217]

I really do love these shows discussing the show. It's amazing to hear how things work out and sometimes its logistics timing and the projects people are working on.

[@Chandler.C_1993]

Can't wait for season 5, I agree with Al, I always felt that was the strongest season!

[@ryandeffley7652]

I actually disagree with Al here. 1) Rehashed Clana again. 2) Johnathan risked anonymity to be in politics, which was totally out of character. His main priority was always protecting Clark's secret. 3) Lois had no real purpose. 4) Johnathan's death winds up being irrelevant because nothing changes in the end. At least if Clark had used his future knowledge to stop the accident and still tell Lana, it means something changed. But Johnathan dies for no reason. 5) This season started up the Clark, Lex, and Lana love triangle soap opera nonsense, which was the worst decision they ever made.

[@PropainBringer0737]

​​@@ryandeffley7652 Agreed. It's wild that Al said that.

[@Chandler.C_1993]

@ryandeffley7652 Yea, the Lana drama was the main thing I didn't like in that season, I agree with you there. I just liked all the action and character building in that season, it's kind of a building block for the ones that come later.

[@ryandeffley7652]

@@Chandler.C_1993 - The Johnathan politics angle almost bugged me more because he's always been so paranoid and a hard ass about privacy/secrecy. So it made absolutely no sense that he'd suddenly want to be a state senator and put his whole life in the spotlight and public eye.

[@Chandler.C_1993]

@ryandeffley7652 Very true, I think my brain just completely glossed over that part lol definitely out of character for Jonathan.

[@flameofelijah]

They DID, without question, ' drop the ball ' ...

[@husky3g]

S4 had it's highlights. You really need to take the show at face value and not try to look too much into it. They did just fine writing them all out of the show. It sucks they couldn't expand upon it more, but I feel like it gave an interesting story for that season and started to show a bit more that Clark is vulnerable to magic, which really sets things up for Zatanna in the later seasons.

[@BlueLantern96]

Smokin’ hot Zatanna Zatara

[@Moviefan2k4]

Its also something that comes directly from the comics. Our hero's first encounter with magic was in a story called "The Undersea City", from the Superman #14 book published in February of 1942. But this tale features the only appearance of an ocean sorcerer named Akthar, and the way Superman reacted to mysticism varied in the source material for about twenty years after that. It wasn't until Superman #171 in August 1964 that the story "The Curse of Magic!" was told, featuring the continued schemes of inter-dimensional prankster Mr. Mxyzptlk.

[@seanhoude]

Was also a common trope in the Shazam comics (a.k.a. Captain Marvel), that Superman didn't fair well against magic.

[@BlueLantern96]

Smokin hot Grace Caroline Currey aka Mary Bromfield from Shazam 2 my goodness folks!

[@kyleellis1825]

S4 is better than S5.

[@low0820]

That's crazy because season 4 is one of my favorites. My wife and I have been watching episodes just this week.

[@denniskelly3110]

Love the show guys🤙 looking forward to seeing you in Washington Summercon. Take care.

[@ginger00022]

I'm so Jensen Ackles got Supernatural. I too hope Jensen Ackles is a guest on Talk Ville Podcast.

[@miyadeen5867]

So didn’t Margot kidder was she’s emotional about the Christopher reeve’s death that’s why she’s never came back for season 4 arc with Clark’s stones stuff I am just wondering if it is or not? Also that witch storyline was mess if they wanted to do a stones they really didn’t need Lana’s connections with her witch ancestor moments in my opinion. Also that’s explains a lot that’s why they rushed through Jensen’s arc to be a hero and in love with Lana to villian siding with his mother or was that planned because he didn’t know if that is or did he though? I don’t know randomly thinking and overthinking season 4 as always. And thanks Al for explaining season 4 in a nutshell.

[@clairemendoza8082]

For me the best season was 6. Loved all the episodes! Despite the Lex and Lana couple. I really hope Jensen gets on the podcast before season 4 is over and Jane Seymour. I am a huge Chloe fan and I know Clark never felt the same way about her but season 6 really hinted at times thar Clark wanted to drop the friendship thing with Chloe and pursue something more with her. Especially in 6x1 “Zod.” Feel free to disagree but that’s my take on it. Jensen at this time during season 4 was offered the role on SPN. His character on Smallville wasn’t really going anywhere so it was a good send off for him. I am a huge SPN fan and I know some die hard Smallville fans can’t really invest in SPN but give it some love and a chance. It’s an amazing show! ❤️❤️ Always hold on to Smallville!

[@Johnny82Utah]

I still love s4 the introduction of Lois for me is all i needed to see.

[@y2empleh]

As much as I love Erica Durance and Lois Lane, I wasn't a fan of them bringing in Lois, especially relatively early into the season. I feel the show should have been a prequel and not had Clark in Metropolis yet. The whole mythos around Clark and Lois is that they meet at the Daily Planet.

[@Johnny82Utah]

@@y2empleh she was great and to this day the only reason I can get through seasons 8-10. Her being there early just adds to character development for me.

[@y2empleh]

@@Johnny82Utah There is some validity to what you said, I wouldn't have minded had they introduced Lois in a later season... just not Season 4. Overall I just think they jumped the shark in the mid seasons with introducing too many characters of the mythos.

[@y2empleh]

@@Johnny82Utah but I've heard in a few interviews from the creators that the original plan WASN'T to introduce them that early but after raitings started to dwindle around season 3, they had to do things to boost ratings. It was the same issue that Gotham ran into where the original concept was for a prequel series centered around James Gordon but declining ratings forced it to become Batman and the villians by season 2.

[@September_Rains]

@@y2empleh But the ratings did not improve in season 4. Season 1-3 remain the highest ratings of the entire series.

[@colinmx.]

Michael is the greatest lex and tom is the greatest clarke kent ever, Smallville made my childhood incredible, i still remember staying up late and watching it on Cw man , god bless these guys 🙏🙏

[@sirmustardofhousemayonnais9907]

Tom has no respect for his character

[@nooby165]

@@sirmustardofhousemayonnais9907 what do you mean?

[@schan263]

I thought season 4 plot was a bit awkward, now I know why.

[@jedsithor]

One of these days Tom will realise that whoever Michael is talking to on the phone can't hear him lol

[@ericlingley7951]

Love Season Four. My favorite season.

[@Moviefan2k4]

I love how no one blatantly addressed in this clip, that the best thing they could come up with was for Jason to be literally smashed by a meteor, and then no one ever mentions him again. They couldn't even get Jensen for a small moment to play his body, or show a death certificate - nothing. Its like the entire character never existed...so aside from his mother's obsession with the Stones, what was the point?

[@kyleellis1825]

How many times was Pete mentioned after he left the show?

[@johnnym2069]

David Nutter? I burst out laughing. That sounds like a porn name. 1:28

[@lauracurriero303]

That’s the same guy who directed the Red Wedding in Game of Thrones btw

[@Nehasupnfan]

He's actually a prolific director on TV.

[@dealinginfiction]

This explains so much.

[@AdzzieMac]

You made those words up 🗿

[@halomultiplayermoments]

I loved season 4

[@t-virusterrance4734]

Jensen Ackles leaving Smallville was a great decision, because he got Supernatural. Which is one of the best shows of all time, that captured horror storytelling PERFECTLY. TERRANCE OUT

[@redhood6345]

Can we get a mini series already?!

[@thenationaltimelyactionhou9328]

Season 4 wasn't as good as season 5, but it was still fun.

[@mattsayler-s4n]

I never knew that Michael had a tattoo on his bicep

[@GauravMahajanAvaron]

Cuz he had to gank some demons

[@cheese1ak]

Underrated comment right here! 😄

[@TommyRayzer]

Really annoys me when we find out that someone couldnt be in something because of a scheduling issue. If someone is that important peoole should put more effort into making it happen.

[@fernandaalvesdefreitas1965]

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[@flameofelijah]

Season 4 was decent at best

[@r0bw00d]

Outside of his introduction, I don't remember Jensen's character at all.

[@Alrokako]

Wasn't there very long just remember he was dating Lana

[@Damateos-pn8ct]

Actually, magic can harm Superman so you guys weren’t too far off

[@kingstonshacklebolt1431]

I'm watching the reason why he left right now lol

[@ericpeterson8732]

2:53 No, It was the fact that brain-washed Kal-El could fly, but Clark couldn't. It made Clark look developmentally challenged, and the longer it went on, the more I saw it as an insult. It's my biggest pet peeve about Smallville: the fact that you guys never wanted Superman. So you gave him a mental block. You gave him a prototypical superhero identity. You wrote the story in circles to avoid allowing Clark to become Superman. The slavish devotion to the "no Tights, no Flight" rule really upset me as a fan.

[@FREE-lw4lb]

Well its supposed to be a prequel to Superman so yea you don't want Superman until the end lol

[@sm5574]

​@@FREE-lw4lb, then you plan a certain number of seasons and you end it. Or else you make sure you don't tease elements too early. The flying made it feel like the writers were desperate to find stories to keep the show going. However, I will say the writers had hurt their cause long before that when we saw Clark hovering while he was asleep. They should have just kept it at leaping tall buildings in a single bound until they were ready to go full flight.

[@jamesonsperling8551]

I think we all know why 😂

[@ryandeffley7652]

If we're being real, Jason got stale, and there was less reason to keep him around. Even if Jensen hadn't gotten SPN, I can't imagine he would've had multiple seasons.

[@alishagibbs2113]

Chris reeve hero love ❤️ so

[@alishagibbs2113]

Ha ha suger cake lol love u too mick

[@jimmythe2820]

Margo said in a interview she refused to return as she felt they was exploiting Chris reeves death.

[@kyleellis1825]

Which was weird, since they already had an arc going on.

[@RJ_Cormac]

"Logistics" was a lie, Margot Kidder refused to be the Christopher Reeve villain role.

[@alishagibbs2113]

I love u tom

[@BobbyMoore2-mp8wb]

😎

[@FastDuDeJiunn]

obviously he left cause he a looser lol

[@mattmccullough1093]

I didn't like the season 4 storyline with the crystals either.And it kind of Is comfordictate. season nine in some ways.

[@kyleellis1825]

I just didn't like how S4 ended with crystals being useless/forgotten. But it had a lot of potential with the magic being brought in. Lana should have had to leave to figure her life out because she's suddenly at risk of her mafic ancestor taking over.

[@mattmccullough1093]

@kyleellis1825 I'm still trying to figure out how the crystals ended up four hundred years in earth's pass when Jor El sent them 20 before the destruction of Krypton. Through a portal, which I like to call a stargateight, and it was revealed in season 9. In season 4, they said that Clarks great great grandfather brought the stones of knowledge to earth. One of the stones ended up three thousand years in the past in egypt. I think season 4 storyline with the stones of knowledge would have been way better if they were in the ship when clark destroyed it and they got scattered all over the world and he had to look for them. I think that would have been a way better story line but i'm not the director. It was also revealed that the Orb was sent to earth thousands of years gos but in season 9 they Compredicted that too. Cause they said that Jor El sent them at the same time. The stones and the Orb.

[@clairemendoza8082]

For me the best season was 6. Loved all the episodes! Despite the Lex and Lana couple. I really hope Jensen gets on the podcast before season 4 is over and Jane Seymour. I am a huge Chloe fan and I know Clark never felt the same way about her but season 6 really hinted at times thar Clark wanted to drop the friendship thing with Chloe and pursue something more with her. Especially in 6x1 “Zod.” Feel free to disagree but that’s my take on it. Jensen at this time during season 4 was offered the role on SPN. His character on Smallville wasn’t really going anywhere so it was a good send off for him. I am a huge SPN fan and I know some die hard Smallville fans can’t really invest in SPN but give it some love and a chance. It’s an amazing show! ❤️❤️ Always hold on to Smallville!

[@henrypeters5291]

To be honest my biggest issue is how they never tried with Clark and Chloe. Clark basically bitched for three seasons straight about how he could not be with Lana because she did not know his secret and at the same time Chloe had not only his secret, but she knew and did not tell him and unlike Lana in _Reckoning_ she proved that she could keep his secret and take care of herself (unlike Lana who could not last a day). I know the writers wanted to keep Lana and Clark endgame at the time so I think part of the problem is that they could not think of a way to break of Chloe and Clark had the relationship. In general, relationships in the show usually break up because of Superhero business. No one broke up because the couples just did not fit. Also, personal opinion but I actually liked Lex and Lana. While I was not the biggest fan of the drama it caused between Lex and Clark, I liked how the built up the attraction Lex had for Lana and vice versa. That said after hooking up with Lex, I thought her character was unredeemable.

[@clairemendoza8082]

@@henrypeters5291 Lex always wanted what Clark had. The mom and dad. The loving son. Lex never had that. All his money, mansion, cars, etc couldn't fill what he truly wanted. Love. It did make sense for Lex and Lana hooking up. Clark shattered her heart in a million pieces in 5x16 when he said he didn't love her. He said that because he felt that was the only way he could protect her. Too bad the writers couldn't have written it so that Lana loose her memories of ever knowing Clark and planting her with fake memories. That would have been a very interesting story line IMO. After Clark broke up with her she turned to Lex for comfort. He was the shoulder to cry on. Chloe remained such an outstanding support for Clark during that time. Then again I think she was still secretly pining for him. What I admired about Chloe is that she never lost faith in him and remained constant and by his side. She handled all the Kryptonian stuff incredibly well. Chloe never stopped loving him. The writers should have at least allowed Clark and Chloe to date for at least 1 season. I believe the closest that ever came to that was the "Lexmas," episode. Oh and the famous kiss in the season 5 finale. That kiss was amazing. No spells. No one under the influence. I jumped up from my couch and clapped!! I thought "finally now maybe this will go somewhere." Then Jimmy comes in in season 6 and I slap my forehead with my hand and I'm like "oh boy here we go again." LOL! Chloe would follow Clark anywhere. No matter how deep the ocean or dark the abyss. She would always be there. Her heart will always belong to him. I think Clark always regretted not telling her he wanted to explore their feelings past friendship. What could have been. That's why I'm writing fanfic of my own lol :)

[@henrypeters5291]

@@clairemendoza8082 So my issue with Lana and Lex is not that they fell for each other, it is that they basically needed to dumb Lana down and rewrite her character in seasons 5 and 6 for it to work. Two of Lana's core character traits have always been her intelligence and her independence, traits that she actually developed over the first three seasons. But when she dated Lex she basically disregarded several of the sinister things he did in the first five seasons, including the fight she had with him in season 5 after Clark got shot. She would defend him to Chloe and Clark despite knowing some of the things he did in the past and then flip her switch on meteor infected people so that she was closer to him. Like I said, after everything she said to Clark after hooking up with Lex, I really felt there was no redemption for her. As for Clark and Chloe, if we are honest, the perfect opportunity would have been season 7. If we are honest about it, Clark and Cloe hooking up right after he and Lana broke up would have felt forced but again, I think the writers realized that if they put Clark and Chloe together, they never would have been able to break them up. And again, I know that the writers mistakenly wanted to make Clark and Lana endgame.

[@kyleellis1825]

@@henrypeters5291 Chloe betrayed him by revealing the secret to Alicia. Clark never could have trusted Chloe in a relationship after that. He put up walls then. Of course, I still think Pete, Chloe and Clark had a threesome during the Red K stuff.

[@TheJjcczz]

I’m surprised people can remain fans of the character after everything, fruit of the poisonous tree and all. Plus she’d already joined those sadistic fucks by the time they started production on S6. Personally I can’t get past it and would be staying as far away from anything related to Alison Mack as possible