ROSENBAUM Shares His Blow Up On Set of SMALLVILLE

[@archiestrategos7700]

Love the behind the scenes stories. I had a supervisor at work do the same thing to me (not an actor) and honestly it's more embarrassing for them than it is for the person getting yelled at. Successful leaders don't need to yell to get results. Thanks for always keeping it real!

[@mattb6369]

Right there with you. I once trained for a supervising lead position for the better part of a month and the lead training me had this absolutely horrible, narcissistic, assbackwards habit of 1: critisizing us in the most passive aggressive guilt tripping ways, 2: ALWAYS trying to shake up crap by asking people to do unexpected different stuff at the last minute, 3: making his job (seriously one of the easiest there and I've done just about everything there) sound like the hardest in the place, and 4: outwardly lie to me (about stuff I obviously knew he was full of crap about) to make it seem like others are trying to manipulate me when in fact he's the only one doing that. That's an uncalled toxic work environment. If you stand up for yourself you're damned, if you take it on the chin with a super calm "Yes sir ok yep" you're still damned.

[@damouze]

The best managers / supervisors don't dictate your work, they guide you to a place where you feel comfortable doing your work. An employee who has his (or her) manager's / supervisor's breath in their necks will always perform more porely than an employee who is given a certain amount of freedom to direct (for lack of a better word) their own work. Planning is not just a talent, it's a skillset.

[@aavila1206]

It shows a lack of emotional control, and lack of developed professional problem solving skills.

[@jesseperry9602]

Yeah....I HATE when there are these unspoken expectations at work. I had a job once and I arrived 10 minutes early and was about to clock in and my manager came up to me boiling mad and said, "If you're 10 minutes early then you're 15 minutes late!" And I said I will arrive when you tell me to. If I'm supposed to be here at that time put it on the schedule, but don't expect me to be a mind reader That job didn't last long.

[@progfrogg]

@@mattb6369 in a lose/lose situation like that, i think i would prefer to stand up for myself. not saying it would be an easy choice. but at least i can walk out of a tough situation and being able to look back at that and be proud i did the right thing.

[@cynthiaw.3321]

Love seeing this addressed so honestly. I'm really tired of hearing excuses for people who mistreat other people. .

[@jazieh1986]

Man this story Michael...you'll be surprised as to how many actors have clashed with producers, directors, writers, etc. some actors get fired just by speaking their minds. That took a hell lot of guts to call out that dude I applaud you for standing up for yourself. Mass respect to you Michael

[@5150crazyfun]

I love hearing the behind the scenes stuff from the show. I think most people can relate to this story because everyone has that one boss or co worker with delusions of grandeur that thinks they have the right to treat people badly or condescend to them. It's always crazy to me because if you approach me calmly I will help figure out the situation. But if you scream and are rude I'll lose my temper quickly and put you in your place. Good for Michael for putting the guy in his place.

[@ktpinnacle]

Happens in every business environment. In 40 years of working with others, I've had a couple of situations like this, where I or my business partner were disrespected for no reason at all. And I went off on the guys. Completely called for and refreshing.

[@hellomark1]

I feel like this is the best way to handle it too, because you're letting them know what you won't tolerate, also you don't have to internalize all the stress they're putting on you.

[@jackablamo]

It happens, it’s a stressful work environment at the end of the day

[@richardyork7556]

You guys are awesome! I just watched an episode where your line was I'm not in a cult to Allison

[@HD-gw4wf]

😬🤭

[@deandavis4766]

.....and then he went on to direct Madame Web.....and the rest is history 🤣😂🤣

[@HeismanHerbo]

Lmao if only this was true, that’d be the worst kind of karma

[@LaurieHansen-h4h]

Wow so sorry you had to go through that. How terrible, you are awesome Micheal Rosenbaum.

[@lovemissle]

Definitely right! That went through a bunch of directors, Directors were a dime-a-dozen

[@KarenKarn]

Another unintentional Christopher Walken impression from Tom Welling at 04:31 😂

[@elliepay3763]

Thanks for the time stamp, now I can play it on repeat a few times and get a real good giggle

[@Ben82077]

You don’t tell Lex Luther he’s late. Lex Luther tells you you’re late when you’re on time!

[@coreywashington5440]

😂😂

[@GeomancerHT]

Luthor.

[@gerrydooley951]

This story just reminds me of high school and the kind of stories people used to tell about how people had to hold them back. Martin Mull described show business as high school with money.

[@leannepritchett6323]

Wow. Love hearing these bts. I can so relate. Had a former boss treat me like that..

[@danielb8153]

Oh man they’re talking about the director of “Run” aka the episode where the Flash is introduced. That’s such a great episode with such a crazy backstory now

[@georgethomas4367]

Are they? They mentioned Erica was in the episode, and I’m pretty sure she didn’t join until season 4.

[@relentlessrescue260]

Like you said - even if I was late you don’t do that. I’m a man, don’t disrespect me publicly. Disrespect is an automatic no tolerance zone.

[@brentt6714]

Not accepting an apology is a power move. Lots of assholes act like assholes, say they're sorry, then engage in the same behavior again and again. For that type of person it takes a reaction like Rosenbaum's to really get through to them that they need to fundamentally change how they interact with others.

[@matthewdunham1689]

Does not matter the business you just don’t disrespect people if you want to be successful.

[@TheIrishSicilian]

Awesome u spoke up Michael your job is already demanding enough shouldn't have to put up with such unprofessional behavior. Good for you.

[@IAMYAMAMA]

Demanding? To go out and play pretend??? 😂

[@spermario645]

What’s crazy about this story is I’ve had many managers/bosses/supervisors for many jobs that talk like this to not only me but other staff employees

[@Terrysrabbittholes]

Love these stories, my only complaint is Michael not always letting Tom finish his sentence on other podcast shows, aside from that awesome stuff

[@nflr92]

If you want "doesn't let someone finish" action, watch any Gayle King interview. I've always thought there could be an SNL skit about her proclivity to never finish her question and as the interviewee starts to answer, she'll interrupt to add more and then more until the subject of the interview will have a look on their face like, "are you done? Can I answer now?" "We have Linda Jones on who wrote this book which I found to be interesting. Tell us about how you came up with the idea..." "Well, I realized at one point that.." "...because as I read it, I thought that it was so relatable" "umm, yeah, well anyway, the idea first came to me as" ".....and it spoke to me in a way that I had never experienced" "that's terrific. So....what I was trying to" "....so I thought all these things you wrote about must've really happened. Is that the case?" "Will you let me answer the damn question???!!!"

[@BillCosbyTouchedMyDoodle]

I was a file clerk at a law firm where I had to deal with a partner who was very neurotic. It was a very hostile working environment where staff members (male or female) would cry from getting yelled at. So my guess is that the senior partner whose surname is first in the title of the firm, was constantly jumping down the neurotic partner's throat. Thus, the domino effect. The yelling incident occurred when I was searching high and low for a file folder that the partner needed. About three minutes after he first told me, he came to me (while I was still searching) to ask if I found it yet. When I told him I didn't, he said, "Find the fucking file!" Another time regarding a different file, when I again was having no luck, he said, "If my ass is on the line, your ass is on the line!" Around that time, I saw him being very belligerent to a paralegal. After the partner walked off, the paralegal was holding onto the file cabinet, taking deep breaths. He looked like he was channeling Carl Winslow on "Family Matters" when he used his mantra against Steve Urkel, "Three two one, one two three. What the heck is bothering me?" Unfortunately, like when Carl proceeded to attack Steve Urkel after the mantra didn't work, the paralegal (according to what he told me had transpired just one minute prior) stormed into the partner's office to tell him off. This was concluded with him saying "Go fuck yourself" as he left the partner's office. The paralegal preceded that story by saying to me, "It was nice working with you," because he knew what was about to happen, and he didn't care at that point. After he was fired, another partner told me that she witnessed what happened (when the neurotic partner was being belligerent), and she said that he was in the wrong, not the paralegal. Seven years after that incident, I was fired as well, but instead due to my performance, as I held my temper until the very end. I bounced back four months later and am still at the same job (law firm as well) for nearly 12 years, at a much more friendly and pleasant environment. However, for the first time ever at this firm, I was yelled at. About two weeks ago, one of the senior partners (again, surname in title) angrily threw a printed document across the room after I handed it to him, exclaiming that he was already given that document. About a minute later, the secretary came in with the correct updated document. He then skimmed it, and then said to me in a calm tone while holding up doc, "I have it," like nothing happened. Apparently, I was just at the wrong place at the wrong time. And he just typically has his moods sometimes. This was evident from about a week later when I handed him a document and he looked at me with a staight face for a few seconds and then winked at me, e.g. just messing with my head. At the end of the day, it's all gravy. NGL though, when I came to him with the document, I had Vietnam flashbacks. LOL I don't expect to never get yelled at, as no employee in general shouldn't have those expectations. But if it's going to happen every day, that is uncalled for.

[@TimL-nr4hr]

If blooper reels included the actor looking at the camera and going fuck as they yelled at the director I'd watch them.

[@manoftomorrow79]

Rosenbaum: I think we had another moment where.... *links start to pop up* Me: No, No, No. Don't end the clip there I want to hear about the other altercation this is some juicy storytelling.

[@thomasstengel7356]

These are the sorts of stories that make what you folks do relatable to the masses. On more than one occasion, I've said to a boss or boss-adjacent person, "Say that same thing to me outside of work. I dare you." Moral of the story: there are shitty people in every industry.

[@MS-tl6hc]

😂 @1:16 🤣 And simultaneously my inside voice blurted out, "Lex Noo!!" With all due respect to whatever trauma you went through that day.

[@robertt9342]

Michael was right that you do not talk to people that way. I get there a lot of pressure, but that is crossing the line.

[@jaybro7370]

Omg so this is the first video I've seen. so when he said we have s guests i was like oh maybe they'll bring out Clark. so not long after that i look closer and realize he's hosting lol

[@jbonaful]

Holding your temper is a gift especially in this industry. I learned quickly the key to making a living in filmmaking is don't be a dick.

[@peterharrell7305]

This shit dont fly on the lower rungs of society, thats for sure. "If youre mad at me now, i wonder how mad youll be missing your front teeth." Something ive actually said yo a manager before resigning.

[@ColeEdits]

1:02 Fuck me - it’s Star Wars Theory.

[@AzguardMike]

a sexist bigot? Where!? No wait.... its just Tom

[@apok1980]

Never a good idea talking to people like that. Even if you’re right, you won’t accomplish anything. Best to take a minute then find a constructive way to go forward. You never want people thinking you’re the worst

[@CraigAnderson-ru9fi]

Hell Yeah #Rosenbaum 🤘🏾

[@knightknight3453]

David Baran was a teacher I had

[@nicktubara]

Did he yell at you and accuse you of being late 😂 you were weren't you 😅😅😅😅

[@dhackdaddymac]

Were you in kicking it old school?

[@BrandonDuckett]

Honestly whomevers fault it was that things were running late, if you think yelling at them is gonna fix what's happened, you shouldn't be in a leadership position.

[@HD-gw4wf]

Dont mess with Lex Lutherbaum

[@johnrogers6047]

Look at Micheal reminding us all hes an actor haha

[@MazterP28]

Lex became the flash at that moment

[@matthawkins6361]

This is literally a moment of seeing actors who also do more than act with their career try to figure out how to describe a shitty person who hasn't done the craft and try to direct them. People with power without putting in the 10,000 hours should never try to make someone feel belittled.

[@monsieurprince1499]

I like how he doesn't say if he was late or why They thought he was late. Seems to me Rosenbaum was a diva from day 1 from what he says on this podcast.

[@troybeardjr]

rosenbaum describing me at work. im always doing everyone elses job and one day my boss came up to me and was like why are you going slow. i never go slow. im always just cleaning up after everyone or doing their job plus mine. so i just walked away from her and she was shocked because im probably the most professional on my team. but i still feel insulted that she said that knowing that i do all that too. when i dont have to do anyone elses stuff im always lapping multiple times

[@Michael-rp5pv]

Then maybe that taught you a lesson not to do anyone's else's work for them they probably didn't even ask you to do it. Just worry about your own job and not someone else's. That's just an excuse for you not to do your own work

[@nunyabidnes6010]

I hope you stopped doing extra work. Only do your own work and always get credit for it.

[@Michael-rp5pv]

@@nunyabidnes6010 I wouldn't do someone else's job for them. Im not getting paid to do someone else's work. If their so damn lazy that's on them.

[@miyadeen5867]

I’m sorry about that

[@TekkLuthor]

Why are you doing everyone else's job?

[@marywright7111]

Yes

[@HD-gw4wf]

Yo Rosenbaum is hilarious! Hahahaha

[@dsalvatier]

I had my boss come into the office one morning to dress me down while he walked into his office. He did it right in front of my co-workers, who were taken aback and stayed eerily quiet. I sat for a beat and got up, walked into his office and closed the door. I told him if he ever spoke to me like that again I’d walk. No matter what the problem is he could talk to me with respect and if I’m at fault I’ll take responsibility but I didn’t need to be talked to like I’m some asshole. He was so surprised I stood up to him he stayed quiet until I finished and then proceeded to apologize. He never did it again and we worked for 11 years together.

[@secularbelt]

Sometimes yelling is effective. Only after you’ve tried talking to the at fault person rationally and nothing changes.

[@jekw23]

Really. Yelling just tells me the person has lost control and I lose respect

[@Black2KGSR]

I want to know what the story was with James Marshall

[@miyadeen5867]

I’m sorry you had to deal with it at least you told him how you feel and move past it

[@bretthallahan9294]

It's what's called "foot-in-mouth disease," I have had a few bosses that did that and every time they just looked incompetent after. I feel like we've all done it, but to what degree, and how much did you blame or project onto other people is really what matters.

[@bartok1378]

Michael and Tom telling their stories of blowing up on set reminded me of Klaus Kinski's tantrums. These guys are probably a walk in the park compared to that madman.

[@MRJK87.]

This sounds like a certain Christian bale story

[@Mitzrael-yk3pu]

The reason this guy plays Lex Luthor so well, is because he has that face...that makes us want to smack in real life lol

[@gerrydooley951]

I bet that would've been a terrific slap fight

[@jakewolf9495]

hes so right. its not remotely about whether he was right or wrong. you just dont treat people that why

[@mikemarquette924]

My Lex Luthor

[@AdamT-88]

Wait hold in a sec. Granted I'm only a casual listener to some clips people make of your show. But your Lex Luther!!!

[@r0bw00d]

Please learn the difference between "your," "you're," and "yore."

[@6ix-El]

Which episode were they talking about

[@kimitellez]

“Run” and “Lucy” were the only episodes directed by David Barrett. It’s Lucy (4x16) for sure.

[@ronaldkishna8319]

Guess I understand what Tom means , dictating takes away the actor’s creative potential … it depends on what the director wants.. maybe it’s of value at a certain point for really underscoring a core scene 🎬

[@Catrell]

You'd think that emotional regulation would be a requirement for directing an incredibly successful tv show

[@scottalderson4708]

I worked at Deseret Industries for almost a year. And in that time I and a lot of us on the Dock had issues with this truck driver who technically wasn't an employee, he works for a trucking company stationed in Utah that works either for or with Deseret Industries, but try telling that to a trucker with a big ego. I was being taught some techniques on the forklift by my department manager and he is so cool, I idolize him still to this day. This trucker is messing with my head saying one thing and my boss is saying another. I finally lose it and say hay (I'll call him Waylon) Waylon, shut up, do you wanna do this? We talked about it the next day but I never listened to him after that

[@lindamawdsley6130]

These sorts of triggers are meant to elevate the soul but they are painful to receive, but I think you passed the test with flying colours😀

[@ronineditor9920]

I DPed a film like that (for a Friday the 13th director doing his own horror film, but his Friday was the 2nd or 3rd worst film in the franchise) where the director was a dic-tator. Just an absolute tyrant and acted like it was a $20 million set for the horror film but he was the Fyre Festival of films; ended-up being zero money, not the crew he promised, 14 hour schedule, SAG violations all over the place. Some directors really get off on that "power" and wanting people to fear him. However... I'm a gym nut and I was the ONLY guy he didn't do that to because he was afraid of me, even though I wouldn't hurt a fly. But, as predicted... he ruined the film; absolutely crushed my footage (added tons of contrast, super red look to everything) and jacked the audio, terrible VFX, etc... and then blamed everyone else. Some directors act like tyrants because they know they're not talented and have to be the 'big shot', knowing nobody will respect them based on their work.

[@LukesVintageRC]

yup he was late on set again lol!

[@gerrydooley951]

turns out the director mistook Rosenbaum for another actor

[@TheIrishSicilian]

What did u blow up over James Marshall about?

[@adamtifone6788]

now we know why Lex quit

[@Hawkgirl719]

This isn't why.

[@alishagibbs2113]

Smallville is lex and clark Mike and Tom

[@landonpoindexter114]

I’m on season 8 episode 5 Lex you better not come back as a villain you better come back and work side-by-side with Clark

[@davideastman4336]

He was behaving like a dam Nazi with a power trip. You can say it. I had that happen a couple of times. Only once from each boss. No one got in my way or held me back. It was handled and we became good friends. And I wasn’t fired.

[@ConernicusRex]

Real people don't call other people that in real life. You may need to delete your twitter and touch a bit of grass.

[@davideastman4336]

@@ConernicusRex Not only would I call someone a Nazi. I nick named one boss little Hitler. And it stuck.

[@ConernicusRex]

@@davideastman4336 I'm sure it totally did. And then everyone clapped and carried you out on their shoulders.

[@davideastman4336]

@@ConernicusRex Ya, Naw.

[@kit55kat55]

Violently reacting is just as bad if not worse! Why is no one criticising Michael, here? Someone shouting at you isn't justification to escalate and physically attack them. 🙄 The real power move is to stay completely calm and say 'The way you are speaking to me is completely inappropriate, especially for a director. You have disrupted the entire set. Apologise.'

[@UnoThatYouKnow]

A DIRECTATOR ... if you will

[@wellesradio]

Don’t shout at work. That’s just it. Don’t shout at work. Don’t know why Americans are like that. They accept their bosses shouting. That’s never okay. Boss needs to can someone? Fine. But just do it without the histrionics.

[@jeremyroberts8822]

Idk why you’re acting like that’s just an American thing.

[@SepRoyle]

Wow that sounds terrible 😕 😳

[@hawkyhawk]

shave ur head and face for the reactions

[@byroneveson]

Guys, being triggered, no matter how big it is, is on you. People can be jerks, but loosing your cool is on you alone.

[@jekw23]

Very true.

[@JrunkJesus]

Rosenbaum seems like a cool dood.

[@alishagibbs2113]

Whale coz smallville would not be if it weren’t u and tom

[@mockingjay4776]

The first time I came across this podcast, I thought cool. Until I remembered Smallville ended years ago and these guys are still going on about it like it happened yesterday. So now it's just sad looking at these guys.

[@Murdock13]

Lazy definition of "director" that only the leads (especially of a long-running TV series) would come up with.

[@lPHOENIXZEROl]

How does a TV director, especially with zero clout think they could do that with a star of the show? not that they should anyway but just the gall of it.

[@KrisBryant99]

Probably upset about something and taking it out on the star because of the title.