Why Kim and Khloe Kardashian are Turning Away from the Black Male Gaze

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[@evispalmer]

I noticed Kim and Khloe’s tans have gotten lighter too. Interesting indeed.

[@tmarie69]

I said that too. They aren’t tanning nearly as much as they use to. They are leaning hard into full yt woman.

[@thirstaefortae5057]

Tbh their natural tone is pretty light but yes, they’re definitely not tanning as much as they used to. Just look at their hands in the Hulu Kardashian trailer and that chicken feet meme 😂 I think Kourtney is probably the darkest one naturally

[@mythilivenugopal746]

Even Ariana Grande has stopped tanning as much as she used to

[@jayatidave2864]

They're white again after years of appropriating

[@Yosoydom]

@@mythilivenugopal746 yup, Ariana doesn’t want to look Hispanic anymore, she’s leaning more towards trying to look Asian now after Kpop has become so big

[@ajm935]

Love your commentary Kim! The Kardashians returning to whiteness will also help them dodge the "baby momma" stigma associated with single motherhood from the black community. White single motherhood is seen as a powerful choice tangential (in a neutral way) to her life pursuits, while black single motherhood is viewed as consequence of both poor choice and dereliction. There are TONS of single white mothers in Hollywood and social media and I have noticed that people never question "where are your kids?" (ALWAYS implying neglect when directed at BW) or "Why does she always take all of her kids everywhere?" when we see them ALL OF THE TIME EVERYWHERE especially at events where one would not expect a ton of kids to be brought to (a la Angelina Jolie - imagine a BW star bringing their 6 kids to every red carpet event and gala). We also never hear complaints about how they are ruined as women for having children or how unfortunate it is that successful men have to take on the burden of their children when they marry them. It's a very smart move for them to make.

[@sodamnsexy16]

This is good

[@KIJO2696]

Thank you for this

[@nataliegraham3287]

Excellent and I mean excellent observation!

[@lollymagg]

It’s not they go through the same things that other races go through.Being white doesn’t make them exempt from real life problems.Life is life to all of us....

[@thandekamlangeni5341]

This! It’s how they can opt in and out of “blackness” for me. It is an accessory to them. They take what’s desirable from the community, discard it as soon as it doesn’t match their aesthetics.

[@jubilantsleep]

As a black girl who has always been “white girl skinny” black men never missed a moment to inform me that I have no ass. Used to have a super negative effect on me. Used to yearn for a bbl. Now I see that it was a blessing in disguise all along. Happily married now to a man who loves my “white girl skinny” body.

[@SewRena]

Amen to this

[@florencee3324]

Thats so cute🥰. I too was “white girl skinny” ,and was constantly told by grown people that 7yr old me looked anorexic and no man wants a toothpick. And now that i’ve gained weight people sexualise me🙄.

[@jubilantsleep]

@@florencee3324 Ugh. I’m sorry you have to deal with that. People can be so weird

[@NowIknow24345]

I felt the same way with natural hair. I have always been a big fan of my natural hair but others would make fun of me. But now in 2022 I have long sisterlocs hair that go all the down to my butt. And the women who would make fun of me are now dependant on weaves and wigs because they now have alopecia and no edges

[@begood4786]

Really? I’m skinny and I get niggas coming at me daily 💀

[@Naomi-xu4hq]

Interestingly enough Kendall has always appealed to white and Asian women and was praised for her “timeless” beauty (having the closest Eurocentric features out of the family) and even with surgeries claimed to be “natural”. I think Kim has really noticed the respect Kendall has from white/Asian young women and now want to appeal to them

[@luphelele]

Absolutely infuriating that a group of people can buy in and out of black women's bodies like this. This family is so insidious. I don't understand why people support anything they do.

[@paradiseblue3124]

To be honest it's black people's fault for putting them on. If people ignored them they wouldn't have had a platform.

[@Help_me_understand]

I always wonder “ who is buying products, who??”

[@extrashotofespresso_]

I am ashamed to admit that I bought those kylie lip kits back in 2016. I thought because we were both teens at the time she was cool but when I tell ya'll I stopped buying those products in 2017! I still used what I had lol but I never purchased anything from any of them ever again. And I never will now more than ever.

[@paradiseblue3124]

@@extrashotofespresso_ I understand and no judgement from me. Life's a journey and its good you're learning and growing as all of us should including me xxx

[@jooddart9736]

GET OUT in real life

[@annamaria9073]

I think there is something about the fact that they both started trying to appeal to whiteness when they started being single mums to Black children.

[@Christelleee96]

Comparing their bodies to being a “fixer up” home is so spot on. They treat everything like an experiment, even when having kids.

[@IsSalvationReal]

That’s what happens when your use to being in Hollywood’s cult. They are the embodiment of past slave owners daughters. They want to be superior in all things, especially in race. How they move is scary and it’s impacting more of black and whites than any other race. Shows who the real targets are. Especially for white women, the surgery, online from young women is crazy. They look so old and there face looks like it’s melting, just like Kylie’s face.

[@bop8149]

I think it’s affecting their health a lot more than they’re letting be known. I saw Khloe in a commercial for migraine injections & in my mind I’m like “all that surgery comes with side effects from the operation to the medication to the recovery” This stuff is making them sick I think they’ve been able to afford the necessary medical maintenance but long term it’s tearing these women up. Pros & cons of pioneering things, you’re also a test dummy in a way

[@JNYC212]

I always thought about that... I wouldn't be surprised if they suffer from some sort of disorders mentally & physically. Can u imagine the amount of "pain killers" prescribed to that family 😬

[@AnaTheFairy]

That’s a huge reach

[@JNYC212]

@@AnaTheFairy I wish it was... I know 2 women who have had surgery and became users of prescript meds and one doesn't even get them prescribed no more. She buys from ppl who sell, that is extremely dangerous. Not to mention the psychological damage some of these women endure after these procedures. 😕

[@marquitashiver6141]

@@AnaTheFairy How is that a reach? Getting your body cut open often and unnecessarily, anesthesia, not resting/healing properly afterwards as I'm sure they don't because of so many engagements and filming and countless other things that they're doing all for an image....that's wear and tear on the body. Just like regular people doing way less and getting sick and/or dying.

[@Stopthisrightnow560]

You're actually kinda onto something. They're all actually nearing middle age despite how young they look. The body cannot handle procedures at 40+ like it did when you were 20. Your skin also loses elasticity, liposuction permanently removes fat from areas which leads to more sagging of the skin and once skin starts to loosen and sag, the blood supply is compromised. In short, they've probably run out of procedures they can safely do without botching their bodies entirely.

[@LorryHill]

Great video ! Imagine my shock to hear my name as I’m watching your video to unwind for the night haha; keep up the great commentary 💗

[@Randy8878]

I love you Lorry! ♥️

[@ToriUptown]

you are the goat, tho!!

[@prettylittleinvestor]

Lorry Hill is the goat 🙌🏽🤍

[@kittensvsdragons6193]

Lorry Hill love your channel 😸

[@ClaimedQT]

Lorry!!! 🤩

[@brittanyteiko]

kim's recent allure interview was very eye-opening for me. she is unabashedly chasing youth and the "in-look" and it proved to me that the response to Andy's question about feeling any responsibility about perpetuating unattainable beauty with "well we work out. we eat well" etc. was b*llsh*t lol. she does laser treatment after putting her kids to sleep. it doesn't get more unattainable than that.

[@moniquebrasil213]

And she's using her black daughter to appeal to a youth audience and being connected with youth somehow

[@bellababe8526]

@@moniquebrasil213 her daughter is biracial.

[@sakinaalia1067]

The whole, I would eat shit everyday if it made me look younger truly was disgusting to read. Like it’s so degrading as a woman that youth is valued to that extent.

[@iamsol4916]

@@moniquebrasil213 she is I feel so sorry for north & all their children really. I knew for a fact Kim was gonna use her fetishized kids as props and accessories when she was trying to match North’s SKINTONE to a STROLLER before she was even born !!!! between that , their family’s narcissism , entitlement and failure to discipline their kids , I feel sorry for them & anyone that has to come into contact with them that isn’t rich like them. I don’t get humble vibes from them so how can they teach their kids to be kind to those with less than them, when they don’t. Miss Kimberly “won’t pay my employees” kardashian .

[@nawal10]

She's coming off desperate and the harder she tries makes her older actually!

[@josiebee9437]

I hope that this will be a turning point of people deciding not to stan celebrities like the Kardashians. As a curvy Latina, it sucks that their version of “slim thick” was never attainable and now their “skinny” is even more unattainable (‘cause I’m not built like them). I grew up in the skinny 90s-2000s- been there done that. I think it’s important to talk about how unrealistic celebrities bodies are and how we can’t compare ourselves to them.

[@crystalcovington1733]

Thank you for this video. As a Black/Puerto Rican woman, I have always had a curvy body. I was also made fun of for my behind by kids my age. At the same time, my body was a distraction for older dudes. I remember receiving "cat calls" in middle school while passing a gas station. Now I'm 42 with 2 kids of my own & I just got a cat call today!! Thank you for speaking on the reality of this experience!! Keep shining your light on the world!!

[@roter13]

I always appreciated Kourtney because she never changed her body drastically like Kim and Khloe. She also never forced herself on black people.

[@thatgirlbrinna7927]

I agree! But it’s because she is secure in herself I think that is why I have always found her attractive

[@southside-hornbaby5325]

Kylie too

[@mahlatse8605]

@@southside-hornbaby5325 you can't be serious lol

[@southside-hornbaby5325]

@@mahlatse8605 😂

[@BlacKWidoW70s]

@@southside-hornbaby5325 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@_PixalatedCvnttery]

The privilege and power to not only build a massive platform but monetize the image of a black woman without being a black woman. Whats worse is seeing black women try to emulate a caricature of themselves. Why is the bLaCk GiRl AesThEtic on non black women so highly profitable and beneficial ? 🤷🏾‍♀️💁🏾‍♀️

[@Sunflowers_220]

Because black men are filled with selfhate. Same as the 'caricature' black women. Our community is sick ... Its sad.

[@tamarastone141]

@@theeladyj exactly which is why BBLs are so common in our community....cause the men desire it

[@VintageToilet]

Because the aesthetic is seen as novel or “rare” on them. Black woman does it? Well that’s just everyday life. White woman does it? Well we gotta cherish it because it’s out of the norm. Ofc I don’t actually abide by this but I think that’s generally the idea.

[@benedictevi5007]

caricatures of themselves, exactly that!

[@naomicampana]

The day we stop giving them time, and be proud of all body types, we’ll be set free. I’ve always been skinny and been asked why I’m not gaining weight, that I look like a child, men will NOT look at me cuz they want meat not bones. I must gain weight to look more woman like... Sooooooooooo… great question but it’s time to stop and accept that they our not the standard. We can look from afar, appreciate or not. Clap or not. But they’re not the standard at all. The world is not the states.

[@MsIs3]

The distraction... that hit hard. I have been getting catcalled, harassed, accosted, you name it, since I was TWELVE. Fifteen year old me was harassed by my MALE math teacher because my uniform pants (all girl Catholic school) couldn't possibly be from the uniform company because they were too tight. In hindsight, I'm like, "why was that man staring at my *ss??" Etc, etc, ad nauseum. Also, thank you for acknowledging that other racial groups suffer from this, as I'm not black, and yet have in many respects, suffered similar setbacks, and had my character misjudged because I'm thicker. I found teenage girls to be especially vicious. JLO hitting it big and becoming mainstream, was groundbreaking for me. Here was this light-skinned woman, with my body type, giving zero f*cks and living her life. It gave me hope as a teenager, that I too would be ok.

[@SKOLAH]

That teacher, though...😔🤢 ❤

[@akundel]

I wonder if they had medical problems from their surgeries. I’ve heard of many people reversing their procedures due to chronic pain, inflammation, and even possible sepsis. But, of course, I agree with you, changing your body to stay on trend is a sad reflection of what we value :(

[@fatpinkteddy]

I think they must coz the amount of surgery they have had is not good for their bodies.

[@HyphenatedHistoryUK]

It’s funny because I remember how mainstream media used to drag Kim for being short, “fat” and ethnic looking. White people were not checking for her pre-surgery, but Black people took to her immediately. She leaned into it but her past never indicated that she had any real interest. Coming up with the likes of Paris Hilton and the rest of the aggressively white west-coast aristocracy. She has the respect of the white mainstream now, but still has to surgery her way into white aesthetics. But whether she appeals to Black ppl or the mainstream, she can never be “herself” because there is no market for that (unless she actually makes a meaningful effort to connect with Armenians/Persians/middle easterners - which she won’t)

[@GS-xs3we]

Totally agree! People gravitate towards celebrities they see their image in. The middle eastern community is simply not big enough if the US.

[@CMM726]

Middle easterners will never accept Kim bc of the tape. They don’t like sexual immorality

[@Kickinthescience]

White mainstream accepted J-Lo and she aint built like the typical white girl

[@diabloakland]

@@GS-xs3we it’s very big actually

[@imParisthoee]

kim was dating black guys since a teenager. she dated one of the Jackson’s.

[@KAMROXX2K11]

It's mind blowing to me that people can actually become someone else and then go back to being who they were before physically. Like it's mind blowing fr.

[@charlybrown5264]

particularly if blackness or poc is/are involved it is so tasteless

[@mrsce3906]

Right! It's like "ok.. I'm done being black...now I'll be white again". Whew....THATS ghetto!!

[@luphelele]

The highest form of cheapening other people's existence. Buying people's literal bodies and then discarding of them when you're done getting what you wanted out of them

[@loveinthematrix]

It reminds me of the whole Miley Cyrus debacle- she just went back to white girl in the wilderness after years of capitalizing off of black culture in every way. They forget, a lot of people don’t though

[@GS-xs3we]

She never had the skinny white look before. She was wayyyyy to ethnic for that traditional white look. This is a new costume.

[@h4618]

the way they've reverted back to whiteness is sinister, and not only because aligning with blackness does not match the way they're trying to rebrand, but also because it undermines whatever concept of blackness they've adopted because people will look at the time they were black fishing as an 'era', and a bad/controversial one for that. this means that when black culture is appropriated by white people (whatever there is left that black people can still claim because most of what is understood to be black culture in this generation has been whitewashed much like everything else) people will now assume the person appropriating is promiscuous and going through a troubled and confused phase. think of Miley Cyrus' twerking era, Ariana Grande's RNB baddie era, Justin Bieber's egging houses era. observe the ways they hyper-sexualize themselves, observe the 'ghetto' portrayals of themselves (that are only digestible because they are portrayed by white people that must be troubled or must be so misunderstood or so cool), the blatant disregard of the deep culture and history behind the ways they choose to culturally appropriate that they gaslight people out of believing, the list goes on. i know this isn't new, whatever is deemed black has always been demonized, however, the kardashians (and many others) reverting back to whiteness speaks volumes on this generation's failed attempt (for the most part) to completely whitewash the last generation of black art and culture, like hip-hop, RNB, street fashion etc.., although they've heavily profited off of it, they are trying to undermine its legitimacy, so nobody can take it seriously. think about it: when something is aligned to whiteness, it is deemed timeless. most of American culture and civilization comes from black culture, but in order for something to garner the kind of support that would give it longevity, it must be white, or at least aligned with white values or thought of as white. think of the origins of rock and house music as a simple example and how they are thought of today. think of how long this has been going on. they just simply couldn't checkmate. it's easy to say blackness was just a trend to them and they're just hopping on what's cool now and doing what they need to do. but the real reason why all these people are reverting now back to whiteness is because no amount of whitewashing or sabotaging the black culture was enough to finally deem it white, so they now have to undermine it's legitimacy by trying to rebuke it and unclaim it and go back to their roots to fit the way they want to rebrand.

[@Dave102693]

💯💯💯

[@neneosei7168]

It wasn't bad at the time as made them money. They have now saturated black men and the community that they no longer relevant as seen it all before.

[@Lulu060986]

💯💯💯💯👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾

[@chiarac3833]

Rock and roll has its roots in the blues, and even gospel music. Elvis sang gospel before rock. If not for the African American blues artists of the early 20th century, there would be no rock music. Artists like Leadbelly were the true pioneers of the genre.

[@h4618]

@@chiarac3833 👏

[@iThiink]

Can we acknowledge it's not just the Kardashians going back to the "skinny" look, Doja cat, Adele, Coi Leray and a few other popular female artists are very slim now. It's slowly becoming a trend

[@beckystewartson6371]

Coi has always been thin

[@LifeisaBeautifulting]

This a reach. Coi is naturally thin and Adele was overweight, so she likely lost weight for her health

[@marinavasquez8813]

Agree

[@K.D-Gaia]

The fact that this has influenced how women view themselves worldwide and the fact that they can just step out of it just like that, is wild to me. In our community curves have always been desired&praised. But let's be honest, they have helped largely to put our natural silhouettes on the map for acceptance. You have a rise in BBLs because of this. And now you mean to tell me they're tired of it and wanna appear differently, I wonder what this is going to do to the masses. It's crazy the influence someone can have. And I'm not saying to want to change is not allowed, there's just so much into this, it's kinda exhausting

[@paigenotfound2696]

I think the first thing to acknowledge is how troubling it is that these women specifically targeted bm by getting BBL just to lure them in. What Kim and her sisters did was intentional manipulative. They went through great lengths to alter their bodies to attract bm, which reveals how they really feel about bm. Once they extracted what they wanted and needed from being with these bm, ( money, social status, fame etc) they moved on back to what is familiar to them. They are set now and can maintain within the dominate culture. I'm not mad at them though. It is a day old game and they played it well.

[@charlienchocfact]

Right! It's not like bellbottom jeans and the jeri curl.

[@melw9147]

It’s wild because so many people claim that no one cares about them yet they continue to be popular and you see real life people idolize them. So what’s the truth!

[@lindavelo3103]

Girl ...Yas 💞🤣

[@aronmos5527]

why are you Americans so obsessed with race? y'all so weird

[@Naxx0o0]

I saw someone comment in twitter that as the United States moves more towards a fascist country, the Kardashians & Ariana Grande are moving more towards whiteness and distancing themselves from the communities that will go down first, and I think that is so true

[@cbiii3201]

Very interesting

[@rellie_90]

🤔

[@ErinLMiller]

Who knows. It’s a theory. Just as good as any theory but very interesting

[@brujadel069]

Kim wants to be as skinny as Ariana Grande because it’s Pete’s type

[@anyahalevi8239]

Absolutely 100 percent true. Most don't realize this!! They absolutely have handlers telling them to see the political writing on the wall and aligning themselves with black folks will not be a good look. I think everything said in the video is true too but this statement is probably the foundation for the about face on both their parts. I think all the Al Jolson's are about to slowly stop because of this. It will be interesting to see nonetheless.

[@denissevargas3313]

“Is it better? Is it worse? It just is…this is where we are.” She just explained life.

[@starzzzy22]

Holy s***! That part about Black women being expected to "not distract" with their bodies is dead on! I was raised by women with the ""slim thick" body naturally and that was exactly what they preached to us! Always make sure you're covered up and not showing too much. But here are the Kardashian women using these body types like a trend, being able to opt in and out of it whenever they want and dealing with less stigma when they got surgery to have the BBL body. (I also wonder if Rob was pressured to fade into the background and out of the public eye because his body has not always fit their family's standards- no way that family isn't fat phobic).

[@maryann2970]

They can't opt out as much as they'd like to do so. Kim still looks ridiculous, the weight loss has not undone the diaper butt.

[@seunshobitan75]

Great commentary. The one thing I’d clarify is when you mentioned big butts weren’t always desirable. I had a non-black coworker say the same thing, “the Kardashian’s made big butts sexy.” I felt that statement disregarded the black community. In our community, throughout history; big butts were always sought after. The Kardashian’s made it acceptable to others outside of our race.

[@tamaranadinecoyle]

And J Lo to an extent, just before the Kardashians hit peak exposure.

[@luphelele]

Nothing makes me sicker than the idea that the Kardashians made big butts sexy. I want to lose my mind when I hear that. They've always been sexy. The Kardashians stole and caricatured these features for profit to an audience that prizes anything white, exclusive and celebrity. They didn't make it sexy.. They manipulated the ills of society for money and access, as is their brand.

[@tamaranadinecoyle]

@@luphelele I'm inclined to agree with you. And they don't appear to have ever used their wealth and status to give black women a leg up business wise and collaborate. They steal, rip off and pass off as their own instead. I think their relationships have become so toxic and until now, exclusively with bm and they've decided to cash out and move on.

[@luphelele]

@@tamaranadinecoyle completely agree

[@justcallmebon2684]

Agreed!

[@m0mmy2aStar]

Who else is just happy that they're finally leaving us alone 😂

[@moniqueloomis9772]

🙋🏿‍♀️

[@naimalee1046]

🙌🏾

[@nateshaclarke9984]

This

[@Adriana-pn8ml]

Let’s hope so🤞🏾 they should’ve stuck to their natural features since the beginning…😒

[@annadimples7599]

I like them

[@viviemorton14]

It’s so weird that women’s body sizes are commodified for trends. It’s not normal to be able to change body shape drastically and vulnerable people are going to think this is natural and can just be achieved like it’s nothing.

[@osunyeye]

It’s giving “chew you up and spit you out,” how other demographics just dance in and out of blackness.

[@xxxTacoJuicexxx]

Gotta jump on here and say I agree with your statement “curvy bodies are a distraction everywhere….. even McDonald’s” as I literally lived that experience while working at McDonald’s, I was not allowed to wear skinny jeans and would be reprimanded if I did so,and yet others were wearing them and no one bat an eye at them. I think there is a sort of negative perception around the concepts of curvy bodies and appropriateness especially in the workplace. You’re kinda made to feel bad or in appropriate for your body.

[@Fannyyyyy_]

Chile youve been blessed like me baby ! I've even had haters in church! I just had this Convo with my daughter this morning 💯🤞🏾

[@CathDaddy]

I remember wearing a bikini as a younger girl and my mom saying thin girls could wear those and be fine, but when I did it was “pornographic”

[@michellelucas7985]

My neice went through that at a young age. She at 12 couldn't understand why she couldn't wear what other kids her age wore.

[@mammajamma4397]

This is a million percent true!!

[@sandirichard5461]

I think hourglass girls, natural hourglass girls, have the worse position. They're always sexualized even though they're usually the most conservative. I hate that for them.

[@autumnjade815]

I think they have exhausted everything they needed from the men and our culture. They can now move on. They started dating these guys being a joke in the fashion world. Due to Kanye, they are now _invited_ to the Met Gala. Kim just walked in a Balenciaga show for Paris fashion week. They don't need to piggy back off these guys any more. It's so Kartrashian strategy 101.

[@RationallyMe]

And that Kardashian curse is real because right after marrying Kourtney, Travis Barker was hospitalized with pancreatitis.

[@Steph_M_L]

@@RationallyMe chile Travis had his own issues prior to getting with Kourtney lol! Same with Kanye…they been had problems.

[@BB-ty6iy]

Balenciaga is a joke and has been.

[@Leally704]

True.

[@RationallyMe]

@@Steph_M_L Girl, it was sarcasm. I don't believe in curses, voodoo, bad luck... none of that. I was playing off of the long running joke of Kursed Kardashian Koochie.

[@HaylaSA]

I am SOOOO happy to have come across this video!!! Could not have been articulated any better. 🙌🏾🙌🏾 My younger self really felt the, “distraction” part. Growing up being made to feel like you need to hide your curves. Protecting yourself from being commented on negatively.

[@kelsiemcveety999]

Such a good video, I really appreciate your perspective. As a large chested person I really resonate with the "your body is a distraction and you have to minimize it." I got a lot of hate from other women about it, especially when I was younger

[@baby_ghoul]

Outrage culture fuels the Kardashian empire. Look at how many white people lost their minds on social media over a dress, and while I do agree she should have had her own copy made, it was so clear to me that she chose to wear Marilyn's original dress to cause upset. She knew what she was doing when she was stealing Black women's aesthetics and she knew what she was doing when she tried to trademark Kimono. Nobody is that socially unaware. I actually find her to be acutely aware of cultural shifts. You can trace it back to the death of the skinny white girl trend in the late 2000s. White people would make a spectacle out of Kim for simply being a little thicker while her contemporaries were flaunting their protruding bones, trying to out-starve one another. It was actually PoC and women that originally stood up for Kim and specifically her body type white media was attacking. She then turned on those women, specifically Black women, and started culturally appropriating. Not only did she make bank from repackaging an aesthetic for white women through the illusion of racial ambiguity, but she also was constantly on everyone's timeline due to how ridiculous and absurd the level of cultural appropriation was. I hadn't seen Kim on my feed in a minute, then the Met Gala happened and to my surprise it was actually white people leading the conversation. I think she's realized that well has run dry and is looking for a new source.

[@empressme8681]

Right looking for a new narcissistic supply… how big do you have to be to need a whole culture to feed your narcissism? I guess as big as a family… #TheKardashians

[@Consciouskithequeen]

Big facts and not only that but she and Kylie tried to market those newly formed bodies as Gym bodies. Their whole aesthetic was a how to get black features for dummies. I still can’t believe white women actually fucked up the blood flow to their lips over some lip liner and fillers. The KarJenners have been profiting off of creating black aesthetics for white people and fetishizing blackness through there children. Hence why Khloe wanted more children with TT. She wanted to create a starting 5 it ensure preservation. Same with Kim and Kanye. The kids are accessories to them and so are we. However now that they back white with the exception of Kourtney, every thing about them white white. The dating choice, the entitlement of the dress, the bodies, etc…

[@girlonfire2.076]

So what

[@vl2663]

@@empressme8681 lmao this should be the tag line for their show

[@starchildofthe90s7]

Narcissist

[@sodamnsexy16]

I enjoy Lorry Hill as well. It’s mind blowing that they can get all of this work done with seemingly no “down time” in the public eye

[@marceejohnson4113]

Night surgery. Or those vacations they go on. Or they are not on social media or new pics for 2-3wks. That's how.

[@thatgirlkells5505]

Lorry Hill needs to slow down on the surgery herself. Starting to look unnatural

[@BlacKWidoW70s]

@@thatgirlkells5505 Her face started looking un human.

[@Mareewashere]

@@thatgirlkells5505 !!

[@cashmoneychanel1209]

@@thatgirlkells5505 I want her to make a video on herself if she hasn’t already

[@blj1523]

This is so so beautifully put. Thank you!

[@joannweikel3892]

You hit the nail on the head with now anybody, teachers, nurses, cleaning ladies can get a bbl and they no longer want to be associated with that “class” or demographic. Now going for the super thin model aesthetic but that’s not their genes either! Eek! that’s hard to maintain long term without anorexia.

[@mimiandy1683]

Yeah, I totally agree. I just hate how acceptable it is: the "thin with subtle/no curves is classy and worthy of being treated with respect" mindset. And as a Black American woman, I am noticing how some of my fellow Black Americans are picking up that mindset too... which is absolutely trippy.

[@jennifero3883]

Some of us are built that way.

[@thekalenichannel1812]

@@jennifero3883 not most

[@crystalcastillo7575]

I don’t think the Kardashian’s will every fully achieve that legitimacy they so desperately seek. I think she will always be known as that “trashy reality star” , I mean I remember a a few years back when Kim & Kendall presented an award at the Emmys.. they called their show “acting” or made a comment about “how hard they worked” and everyone in the room laughed. Like the entire room full of real actors & stars laughed. I remember how taken aback they were. They will unfortunately always have that clout thanks to black media & their mixed children. But, they will not be considered respectable. And it’s clear as day. Even her choice to date Pete Davidson. White ....yes. But he’s a low level comedic person , I don’t believe that an actual respectable career person would want to be apart of that clout chasing family. Especially with their notoriety & infamous fame. They aren’t respetable famous they are infamously famous. Especially since they are constantly pushed down our throats.

[@iamyoda1980]

THIS! Their peers whether white or black don’t respect them.

[@labelmeposh]

Well read.

[@schmaelepaulection1431]

Perfectly stated

[@ms.ellenlevy5667]

I was about to say the same thing. There is even a class system in wealthy circles. Any respectable person of wealth would never except her or her family, old money considers new money a classless bunch. They would most definitely snub there noses up at her.

[@schmaelepaulection1431]

@@ms.ellenlevy5667 Shoot, I'll even go as far as to say some new money folks would look down on her and her family depending on the industry and background of the person

[@leoniemills4918]

It's not a coincidence that we see this body type trending when y2k fashion is also back, as well as the feminity and luxury babes taking hold. It's this return to dainty, fragile white feminity.

[@triaverse]

🎯🎯🎯

[@tchew2545]

Yes as soon as i saw the low rise jeans and the “under the armpit” shoulder bags coming back, i said to myself “ah, i booties will soon deflate”😂🤣😂 i almost feel bad for all the BBL girls who still paying on their BBLS 😂😂

[@dextermoore278]

I'm glad normal bodies are coming back. Women who get the BBL look gross and unnatural.

[@BB-ty6iy]

Anyone can be dainty and fragile. People should be more mindful of what they speak into existence.

[@dextermoore278]

@@BB-ty6iy NO ANYONE CAN'T BE DAINTY AND FRAGILE IF THEY WEIGH 200 pounds.

[@bedazzlinbeauty]

i love your channel sis! youre so smart and witty n funny and on point at all times. Keep coming with the great content❤️

[@Nekole1]

Thicker ladies, please beware that there are ALOT of women who are intimidated by a thicker woman who looks good. They know you will be a magnet to men.

[@jonathanmilton5726]

If I was a black woman or any of these women get off of Instagram and Social Media!! Trust me it’s dangerous you can still live life without Social Media. Social Media needs you, you don’t need Social Media. You will be much happier without it

[@rosseryankeegirl]

I agree...YT is my only version of social media. I'm good on that SM nonsense, it's wicked.

[@jonathanmilton5726]

@@rosseryankeegirl agreed! It is toxic especially for these young women it doesn’t make sense they need to get off because it’s messing up their identity especially black women and women of color and women in general if God created you as a beautiful creation you don’t need the worlds view or perspective on what beauty is because God already created you and made you beautiful in his image forget society

[@rosseryankeegirl]

@@jonathanmilton5726 So beautiful that "other" woman are getting surgery to have what WE were born with!!lolol!! Could you imagine..being jealous of women like that.lololol!! We are the prototype 🙏🏽💁🏾‍♀️

[@jonathanmilton5726]

@@rosseryankeegirl that’s crazy! Being a prototype shows every women wants to look like you, knowing you were born with that naturally but also as well a black woman who doesn’t have curves still gets later on in her 20s or if she has kids her hips legs and butt she gets all of that and with working out. So yeah I agree with you! Back then they would look at a black women with big booty and get jealous or call it “ghetto” because deep down they wanted to be like you guys how curvaceous Coke bottle shapes because of our Ancestors being passed down. So they want that

[@tfkdandsvkc]

I use social media for my business and i follow important stuff related to my fashion career thats it,,,i blocked all influencers and toxic people from my page

[@CyberStockholmSyndrome]

I also feel like the Kardashians want to fit in with the upper crust of society so badly, that they’re willing to do any and everything to shake their nouveau riche reputation.

[@candicechruscial8885]

Perfect presentation!!! There are 1 million Kardashian channels and I love a lot of them but you just bought a perspective so educated and so fresh while also being a lady and not throwing Shade thank you so much for these thoughts

[@genzillennial]

As a naturally thin black woman I deeply resent the narrative that being thin has anything to do with whiteness. I travel often and know many black westerners and African women alike that are also naturally thin. Sick of black women not being “black enough” for having a small frame. It’s gross.

[@aviannachannel]

Black women get invalidated every damn time. We are everything and nothing to "society" simultaneously.

[@alleyinn1]

Agree with many of these points but ... 1. I think its actually black WOMEN'S gaze that made Kim famous. WE were the ones who saturated her with coverage in the early days of YBF, FashionBombDaily and Media Takeout when mainstream pub wouldn't touch them. Black women set the trends and she is the biggest one WE ever set bc WE were fascinated and sadly, it ties back to OUR insecurities and what she represented to US. Black men/men in general do not drive social media consumption- especially in the early days. They were content to look at a new woman in Maxim, Smooth, or Black Men magazine every month and keep it pushing. So like it or not, WE built her and then THEY bought her. 2. Even regular-schmegular white women get skinnier and skinnier as they get wealthier & more elite. I will say that traditional skinny white mainstream beauty is not something they felt they had before so I think they're simply trying on this costume like they do others and commanding new rooms they weren't invited to before. It will NOT be permanent.... especially not as their daughters get older. Like it or not, they will re-affiliate. I think Kendall's modeling career, mainstream acceptance and beauty play a role in this as well. I think Khloe, in particular, is obsessed with Kendall's looks/body and they recognize its different than what they have. .. so they're trying to master that too. These are personal challenges of discipline and a desire to defy their own stereotypes. Trust- Pete won't last, the blonde hair won't last, the super skinny body won't last with Kim. She's just trying to prove to the world that she doesn't need appropriation and gimmick to be beautiful/accepted anymore. This is her subliminal clapback (remember her recent Nina Simone/Nefertiti spread) They're still trolling and they are using this temporary costume to prove to the world they are EARNING their fame via restriction and making it in the white world. They knew it would be a liability to immediately get yet another black man... so they're trying to prove they can do both. Don't continue to fall for any of it.

[@Alexis-wp7tf]

YES with point number 1, within society, women police patriarchial standards and men enforce them.

[@donnaclinton991]

Trolling and temporary costume...👍👊👌...exactly!

[@coursecorrection4105]

Exactly. Black women consumers have put them on. The moment Black women dead them like we did Justin Timberlake is the minute it ends for them. Kim supported one of the conservative candidates for Mayor. Her rhetoric of just work, her mayoral support all show a disdain for Black people

[@Frosting1000]

Well said! And the thing about the old Kim seeing she didn’t fit in with white mainstream beauty and wearing another’s aesthetic like a costume-so true!

[@alleyinn1]

@@Alexis-wp7tf Agree. I don't mean to let the Black men off the hook bc we were channeling their ideals which became our ideals. White supremacy and patriarchy have done a MFer on us all. That is why I at least, cherish these spaces where it can be discussed.

[@erinmarie6736]

“they view their bodies the way a lot of people view their home” whewww that is so true. That mindset is insane to me.

[@aspenanya4421]

Wow I appreciate this commentary & glad to have found your channel!

[@Bekind94]

Yes yes yes. I remember being called out for my curves in middle and high school. It wasn’t the trend in the 90’s at all! And yes yes to you saying curvy women know we are a distraction. Yes yes yes! It’s so ridiculous that they can just take it on and take it off. When those of us with real curves that they faked don’t have that option.

[@Seeingisntbelieving]

I’m from the south and the more developed girls were praised and us thin girls were ignored😂😂😂.

[@megbro10]

“they view their bodies as projects that are never complete” wow, you really summed it up well there!!

[@katualfaro5811]

Looks like being with Kanye has traumatized Kim to run the other way from black men. And Khloe is traumatized as well after being with Tristan and Lamar.

[@tamaranadinecoyle]

Let's not forget Kylie's appropriation with the big lips obsession and her relationships with Travis Scott and Tyga.

[@TheJazzy1980]

I agree. I think they are just tired of black men's fuckery.

[@monember2722]

But both have dated black guys since they were teenagers.

[@clareh954]

Fantastic video, thank you so much for analyzing this!!

[@guruuvy]

I just shared this video with my co-workers! It is profound!!!

[@jetunnadine]

I didn't even think about the mothering aspect that is so spot on! Also, in Kims black-ish era the whole use of neutral tones; browns and tans seemed very intentional to me...from her skin color to her clothes. It just all makes sense!

[@princessm8977]

Can you elaborate on this. How did the browns and tans of her clothing choices correlate with black culture?

[@jetunnadine]

@@princessm8977 I'm not sure if I'm using the right terms or if there is even a term for this. We (I) saw this shift of people wanting to align themselves with Black culture and features. For example, more recently Instagram came out with filters that almost always have a tan/brown hue which makes users look more brown or tan. Another example would be lighter skin people buying shades that are two to three times darker than their skin tone. Because of this new acceptance of blackness in mainstream culture it now looks like darker skin tones and hues are in. Maybe I'm tripping and people actually do love the color brown in their clothing, but it seems intentional (or maybe its unintentional) for your clothes to match the current trends. Like Kim talked about in this video, Kim K is obsessed with aesthetics so going full force with trends-- down to your clothing makes sense. I hope that I worded this in a way that you can understand. My apologies if not.

[@marceejohnson4113]

They are the darkest white chicks I've seen. Trying to pull out all the Armenian roots they can

[@Speakup117]

I honestly think so. I love brown and I love wearing it cause I'm beige and I look great in it (I'm Mexican) and all of a sudden while at the height of bw being appropriated I can find almost any article of clothing in brown? Definitely not what it was in the 10's and I always figured cause ppl were okay with brown and black all of a sudden >.>

[@jetunnadine]

@@Speakup117 Yes! Now it looks like Kim (and everyone else) is going back to colors like pink, black and colors outside of brown and tan. It may not be intentional but there was definitely a shift towards this all brown everything aesthetic.

[@DavidMiller-cu2xq]

A very dark prediction/realization i had after reading the allure interview is that in the next 7-10 years when North will be positioned as the next "it girl" of the family we will see Kim shift to start to look/compete with her

[@holigatis7588]

Yes! The same way she was competing with Kylie and now with Kourtney.

[@Jewel_Screaming_Chango8387]

I doubt it , doubt any of their kids will be famous for what the kardashians are but if they go down the musical path due from Kanye’s skill and influence they can blow up in that area

[@thatgirlkells5505]

Kim is afraid of North. You can see it in her eyes. North is a loose cannon and is liable to say/do anything.

[@theeladyj]

Doubt it … mix kids will be of the norm

[@APTTMHYforever]

North might become the “it” girl out of all the children BUT Chicago and Dream are so pretty, they’ll probably become the models What I can’t wait for is one of their “tell alls” mommy dearest style book😂

[@Cedsbestwife]

Khloe can’t deal with the fact that she’s being treated like a babymama… for whatever reason, she really expected her kids’ father to do right when when he knocked her up, but he’s a rich man. He doesn’t have to. He doesn’t treat her like the fiancé she describes herself as. He treats her like every babymama who chose wrong gets treated. She’ll be hooked up with one of the members of Limp Bizkit or a prank KZbinr soon

[@NowIknow24345]

Bingo !!

[@freddyzsis]

I love this conversation. I look forward to when Black women start looking to each other for validation because we love and support who we are naturally. Darker skinned Black women, especially, can not follow non- Blacks, for how to be and feel beautiful. The colonizer will never be our safe haven. Let’s be that for each other. We even realize we are being copied and still want our hair and bodies to look like others/tends . We are good! We don’t “need” anything to be great but to be healthy, intelligent, clean, and strong. When we build on our foundation, and cheer each other on, whether we are kinky, curly, wigged, weaved, and all sizes, we win and excel.

[@marinavasquez8813]

Agree

[@lovetotravel9399]

The debate competition at Harvard should have been a celebration of your accomplishments but this incident of a boy making a ghetto booty comment shows how comfortable people/society feel about making a comment on a woman’s body. It blows my mind that he feels okay saying this to you. There is too much value placed on a woman’s body and not on her intellect. You said it perfectly, your body is a distraction at work, and at the store.

[@rjb9239]

A lot of Black women were already predicting this change when she started dating Pete. Lmao turns out Black women really know how these people function

[@LimeyRedneck]

Love your videos 🤠 One reason being I can keep up with the Kardashians and continue never seeing, or hearing them otherwise. I'm interested to hear what you have to say about them (and pop culture generally) because I recognise how influential they are and you're so insightful 💜

[@TSUNAMI-MAMI]

It’s wild this family has such a hold on the American aesthetic. It’s sick. They commodified Black fashion, culture and it’s sad how much they’ve erased in the process.

[@monimuppet6132]

The little shoulder shuffle on "shimmy over into whiteness." 🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@cherishoneal9108]

I cannot wait for the Kardashian lookalikes to end. I know that there are women whose looks are naturally similar to Kim’s (pre-fame), but it’s like clones. The usual look of instagram women is a physical fusion of today’s standard, and I’m weary. Instagram isn’t ruining the fun for me, but it is tiring seeing the same thing.

[@rattaxi9645]

Just found you and um so excited and yes. Lorry Hill is so insightful, too.

[@msmelodythomas]

This is such an interesting take! I just LOVE all of your commentary, Kim!

[@quransunsolicitedopinion5708]

I remember the start of the BBL era distinctly…I’d say it was roughly 2012-2013. Slowly I saw the (yt) girls who despised curves start to desire them heavily and then the year I graduated (2015) it was an extreme change. It’s sad how a body that black women have had forever just came in like a fad and now could potentially be phased out once again because culture vultures have decided they no longer need it🙃

[@keyshaw5015]

Phased out for them but some black women that didn't buy our curves have no way out of them. In conclusion: Love thy self ❤️

[@accidentsafe]

It actually started around 2004.

[@musicabelle68]

@@accidentsafe it was definitely 2010s

[@dieu5041]

I hope it’s phased out. I’m tired of seeing non black woman trying to be black

[@jlt001928]

@@accidentsafe true def after 2010.

[@Cheree_Wright]

The female stripper King magazine body type is out. The trend is now moving towards the high fashion slender body type. Or at least a more natural body type. The Kardashians are getting older as well. Grown mature women are now their audience/ fan base and they have to evolve in order to be taken seriously. Besides, bbl’s attract a certain type of man. Im smart enough to know I don’t want that type of man .

[@namkia205]

Which men if I'm allowed to ask?

[@shebe3314]

Kimberly! you are so elegant girl ! i love hearing you breakdown this complicated topic with ease, thank you for your honesty ❤️❤️

[@bubblegumsugga]

As someone who is tall (5’10) and considered skinny in any community. Who has hated my body for over 20 years (I’m 30) and had made several, sometimes risky attempts at gaining weight , but only managing to achieve a pre-diabetic looking body (big stomach and upper arms) definitely not an aesthetic that’s glorified in any community, especially black. I’ve got to a point where considering the health risks presented in my family , my lack of interest in even impressing anyone because I’ve never managed to. I’ve gotten the odd pretty face compliments here and there but no one compliments my body. Always criticism ever since I was a child. Giving me unwelcome “advice”. Making very hurtful comments and thinking it’s okay because I’m skinny thus must lack feelings. I’m skinny and don’t like it “just eat” 🙃Then being surprised to the amount that I eat. Etc etc … I’m not getting any younger and at this point , it’s no longer about aesthetics but actually considering the health implications of trying to get an acceptable look as a black person within the black community . But only achieving a big stomach and arms. I don’t have hips , no matter what I eat and drink (high calorie special drinks) or how many squats, they don’t seems to want to come. Even my breasts don’t get bigger despite my stomach being on an exponentially growth. I’ve gotten to the point where I’ve accepted that skinny is what I am , and skinny with a huge stomach , chubby face and arms … is not what I want to be. It’s sad that people will see me and assume im trying to be white or have some disorder. However , if I continue to try and achieve the unachievable , I’ll definitely be left with long terms health issues any moment from now. My health is more important than appearing desirable to a any man. Because when you’re sick , most time these men will up and cheat or leave then make you feel bad for not being good enough, no matter how great you once were to them. Because their will always be someone better. Especially as you age.

[@poppagBallZ97]

Hope you’re doing okay 🫂 🤍

[@Champagnepapi252]

Me as a gay man I was 400 lbs i to this day go through body dysmorphia and I workout 6 times a week and I can honestly say it’s because of ppl like celebrities because I was obsessed with shows like keeping up with the Kardashians they’re the reasons I drink certain waters lol I had to stop watching the show and get a therapist honestly

[@charlaydamcgriff3136]

Let’s be honest, they see how happy kourtney is with Travis and want the same thing.

[@amab1853]

Absolutely 💯

[@The_torero]

I think they might be done with BM too. I think it might be dawning on them that they never got treated any better despite being "exoticals".

[@aspen1713]

Thank you for bringing this up and articulating it so well! I had the exact same thoughts over the past couple months of 'oh well, Khloe's going through a very tumultuous time in her life right now', but skinny Kim is freaking me out - especially all the newer beach photos she's been putting out. I feel weird making comments or even paying attention to someone else's body like that, but I've found it so weird how completely different she looks after 'dieting really hard and losing 15 lbs'. Like Kimberly mentioned here, their butts and entire bodies look so different.

[@vict6131]

You put things into perspective like no one else! Love watching you ❤️💜

[@jetradaniels9528]

I heard another KZbinr say she was using Pete as a stepping stone in divesting from black men/people, as SOON as she started dating him.

[@AlexciaWHY]

Love to hear your thoughts as always Kimberly. But also!! Can we all just collectively acknowledge how sick and disturbing it is that this sort of mutilation to the body has become normalized. Those before and after pics shocked me. Like they’re celebs so they can cover their scars and get treatments and what not to hide the evidence of surgery, but that ish is no small feat. It’s really sick how people really felt like it was okay to transfer fat, get implants, or injections just bc these women were doing it. So much death and pain. So sad. Hopefully women will stop mutilating themselves for social approval from men. :( I don’t believe there’s any other reason to physically adjust hypsexualized body parts. The cognitive dissonance is real.

[@theamateurconnoisseur]

💯 Agree word for word.

[@aronmos5527]

why are you Americans so obsessed with race? y'all so weird

[@Dee_Dee216]

I agree with you for the most part but I think there is more reasons than men to get a bbl. As a black woman with zero curves, I have always appreciated the curvy aesthetic and always wanted it. I will never have it because I can't afford a bbl and I hate pain but I understand the desire to have one independent of the male gaze.

[@ayannabranchcomb7535]

@@Dee_Dee216 yeah. I truly want a bigger ass so I have summ to shake with my friends 😂😂😂 but I also hate pain so il settle for naturally perking up the pancakes so they have a lil more fluff

[@Dee_Dee216]

@@ayannabranchcomb7535 Right?! The big boots girls always look like they are having so much fun on the dancefloor😄 Sigh, I guess back to the gym we go to get our fluff on

[@clegs8356]

ohhh you know what, something just TOTALLY clicked when you made the connection between their apparent appeal and return to whiteness and Kim's very deliberate choice to wear a famous *white* woman's dress...! it absolutely IS so symbolic of their new direction and ideal, and i almost feel stupid for not seeing it immediately instead of thinking "Marilyn? Why? That's kinda random..." (never mind the whole BS around the decision to even allow that dress to be worn - not just because it didn't fit and WAS permanently damaged, but because it turns out Marilyn actually REQUESTED that no one else wear that dress !! honestly super innovative how we figured out how to disrespect Marilyn's wishes both in life AND death! /s ugh i hate it here!!) ... anyway, great vid! ty! 💕

[@darrengordon-hill]

Marilyn Monroe - "white woman", YOU RACISTS ARE A FUCKING JOKE!! Because ALL HER OTHER DRESSES used to belong to Oprah!!?!!

[@GirlDo3]

Nah I don't think Marilyn is random tho. She said Kanye would compare her to Marilyn and I kinda see the parallel between Kim and Marilyn seeing as both of them highly impacted their generation's beauty standard and made curves be celebrated and were famous for being portrayed as airheads when in reality they are both smart women that can read ppl well.

[@scorpionoir4952]

Bravo for this commentary. This was so spot on. I was saying this the other day. Kim Kardashian and her sisters are taking off the costume because they want to be taken seriously. That silicone is starting to be taken out subtly but it's definitely obvious.

[@msliberated3899]

They’re getting old that’s why!…Thick doesn’t look cute when your old and white woman

[@tresvegan3633]

as an overweight child Kim was one of the women I aspired to look like along with Beyoncé but all my fat accumulated up top which I was usually called bad built because of and so as I got older and even now I started to lose weight but still I had to struggle for confidence because my hips ass and thighs would always go first and most black people don’t like that chile. You can’t walk around with skinny legs and fat up top even though I lost a lot of weight I still have a gut and no ass and this has caused me to go to extremes to try to get the desired shape, one like Kim and Beyoncé had when I was growing up. I suffer from severe stomach pains now from years of waist training and unhealthy crash diets that never worked. It sucks that skinny black girls that look like Khloe now and even the girlies with body types like mine we aren’t celebrated in the same light when losing weight and curves as Kim and Khloe seem to be.

[@IssaRaeOf10S]

I feel you. I don't have a butt or hips. I feel like no one talks about the pressure/shame/exclusion Black women who don't fit into this aesthetic have felt. Pushing us toward BBLs and waist training.

[@sandirichard5461]

I am a 40 HH bra 5'9 200 pounds. I love my inverted triangle shape! I celebrate myself! Nobody can't tell me s*it! You're a bad b*tch, own THAT S*IT!

[@sakuralein1]

Skinny body is mainstream beauty standard not the internet standard, I’m happy that I’m skinny but I live in Europe 🤷🏾‍♀️ maybe that’s why I don’t care about thick body

[@crazyfurbabieslady]

❤️❤️❤️❤️

[@imxel2193]

@@sakuralein1 you didn’t really add anything to the conversation here.

[@davidrich7782]

I love the fact that you mentioned the Harvard debate tournament lmao!!!! Yo speech and debate coach here whoop whoop 🙌🏾 🏆🎭

[@WandafulWrldWide]

Wow! First time seeing you. Great content-loved it! Thank you!

[@geminienergy]

People have to realize that trendsetters aim to be unique. So the minute everyone hops on board they hop off. Then Soon everyone follows (them to new trend) and the cycle continues. No point in trying to keep up just be you and do what looks good on YOU. I personally look a mess in long eyelashes. So guess what? I don't wear them. I refuse to force a style knowing everyone looks good with different things.

[@lawsome2068]

This is a very astute observation, the fact that now "EVERYONE" is thick and curvy, boom the Kardashians are all spotting trim figures. And they're all blondes being white is in again gone are the days of racial ambiguity! Lol.

[@darrengordon-hill]

Having seen the woman in this video, it's OBVIOUS why she's big mad! Because it's STILL NOT ABOUT HER!! KimK IS NOT "just a nice ass" but overwhelming attractive!! Woman in this video looks like a horse when she laughs and isn't pretty in the face so I don't care how big her ass is!! Guys had shaved heads like Onyx then braids like Allen Iverson... TRENDS CHANGE!! Clean shaven was "in", the beards, then moustaches, then stubble, then goateees... ADAPT OR DIE!!

[@monember2722]

I think the insecurity in these women sounding off, won't let realize what you have. They seem to personally feel rejected. If the Kardashian girls have a booty, it's about them trying to be black and if they don't it's about black girl beauty being erased/rejected.

[@Frwill126]

Kim did what Jennifer Lopez did. Used Puffy and all those remixes and then went to the Latino population but now she found the White man she really wanted all along

[@chrisman3431]

Exactly, and that's why I don't really care about JLo deep down even tho she has hits for days and classics. At the end of the day she was and will always be fraudulent. She is a culture vulture no matter what

[@chrisman3431]

@@gc.96 It was Diddy. He can only represent himself and not black men as whole TF 🤦🏾‍♂️. And Tommy Motolla is white Italian man as far as I'm concerned. He was the one who weapanized her to take down Mariah Carey after she dumped him. He was the one who made her dress like Butterfly Mariah era when JLo came out with her debut album On the 6. It was a collective effort obviously. JLo used a black man for a come up (Puff Daddy or P. Diddy or Sean Combs or whatever what is name was in 1999), an hispanic/latino/Puerto Rican man for building a family (Marc Anthony), and ended up with the actual type of men that she ALWAYS wanted from jump ie a white man (Ben Affleck). That's her story

[@icefairy514]

You're right...JLo definitely used our culture to get put on...

[@chrisman3431]

@@gc.96 If it's how you feel I guess 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@imxel2193]

@@chrisman3431 ok doesn’t change the black men that were featured in her songs. As well as the black men praising the ‘spicy latina’ stereotype

[@KatieLuxe]

This was so insightful. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

[@readit_onreddit]

I’m so happy I found your videos! You have a new subscriber in me 🙂

[@mariejane1567]

Shout out to all the black women who knew this ten years ago...... I guess I'm familiar with how WW move since they are in my family....

[@Blahgirl283]

Black women will chase this ideal the same way that any other group will. Super skinny was a trend so many desired to be in the 90s and early 2000s. Media and dominant culture shifts are powerful. Will all black women go that route? No. But a good number of the 30 and under? Yeah. If not full skinny- then at least slimmer.

[@micronotsoft6891]

Skinny was never run out of trend. I remember in early 2000's when JLO first came out, many have realized that big butt is good for non black women. It was also in 2000's that Angelina Jolie made famous of her thick pouted lips and again many have realized it was good for a non black women. All of these feature are present to many black women only it was not praise bcoz not all big butt and thick lips are good for black women. Some are too excess amd out of shape. Same goes to non black women, not all want to attain BBL and thick lips only those who can afford

[@scarletonyx1]

That distraction point is so true! I've felt self conscious about my butt since I was 13 and as I've gotten older I have been made to feel like I'm fast and loose or just "unprofessional " because of this thing I can't control. It's very frustrating.

[@TheMorganMay]

This breakdown was phenomenal. Instant follow

[@kiranholt3296]

You may want to rethink your soft spot for Jennifer Lopez. Shes no longer Jenny from the Block. Shes repping Latina now. Jennifer is another one who copied Black culture to get ahead.

[@moniqueloomis9772]

👍🏾

[@thatgirlbrinna7927]

I have to disagree she has always been a proud Latina and proud to be Puerto Rican. Also she grew up in the Bronx so of course hip hop has always been around her

[@lilwilogurl]

youre clearly not from nyc lol

[@themostbeautifulisraw4561]

Facts

[@imxel2193]

@@thatgirlbrinna7927 she litterally said nigga in her ‘i’m real’ plus she had cainrows in her ‘love don’t cost a thing’ video AND she stole the vocals off black women and had black men in her videos. She knew what she was doing.

[@vrichards4363]

I was told in the 90s that these wyt girls can clean themselves up and present as wyt but us blk girls can't do that. That was in the 90s.... Lololol. So I'm not surprised by the AUDACITY at all.

[@moniqueloomis9772]

It's the CAUCASITY for me! 😂

[@nix2747]

I think Kim K's law career trajectory is helped along a lot because of the goodwill in the California legal industry left by her father. People who knew him still love him and probably like the idea of one of his children wanting to follow in his footsteps. I think that's why she got so many endorsements.

[@actual______criminal]

Yes girl I noticed this but never made the connection, but I totally agree- great commentary!

[@sepharcallwood2422]

I really do feel bad for their kids.

[@catchupwithlee4084]

That’s a strong comment. If I may ask why?

[@sepharcallwood2422]

@@catchupwithlee4084 I feel bad for their kids because to grow up with that level of fame is already hard and on top of that your parent and her sisters are constantly going under the knife to achieve a certain look. It sets an unhealthy example to the kids. Idk how much self love is engrained in them as biracial little kids (cuz idk these people. I just worry about them as little kids growing up in a family that surgically changes their looks like they change clothes.

[@casslac1981]

@@sepharcallwood2422 Do you honestly think them kids will give a damn about that? Lol. By the time them kids are older, it will be an entire different trend that will be going and they will follow. Another path in the world of the industry will be set and that is what they will be on. Feel bad for the kids who parents keep leaving them in hot cars dying left and right and wandering off, drowning etc. save your compassion for them

[@sepharcallwood2422]

@@casslac1981 jump the F off my post with that shit. We are not talking about kids in hot cars, so stop redirecting the conversation and let’s not compare the two. I said what I said. The kids are ingesting all that’s going on with their parents NOW and it’ll shape their future selves.

[@mimiandy1683]

Well... Kris _did_ tell Khloe, when she was a 10-year-old girl that she will need a nose job when she grew up. Soooo... I can definitely see your point.

[@f3042]

Kim played the game and won. Married and had kids with a hiphop billionaire. In her world (entertainment) there is nothing higher. She beat the final boss. On to a new game.

[@lifeisgreat4220]

Giiirrrlll that’s the painful and ruthless truth about it all. Unfortunately they left a lot of casualties in their trail where women died or are deformed because of the surgeries they were getting to look like them.

[@f3042]

@@lifeisgreat4220 Who told them to get surgery?

[@iamyoda1980]

THIS

[@lauren2108]

Yep!

[@themostbeautifulisraw4561]

This is exactly what it is

[@samantarizzi248]

As a more skinny type woman, I appreciate the fact that this body trend is calming down. However, I am also thinking how different body shapes should never be a “trend” to begin with. I think they look much more natural this way. Even though they’re not natural and probably never will be. At least not fully. But I’m glad they decided to calm down a little bit with surgeries.

[@LortsJailsus]

This body is not a “trend” for Black women though.

[@mariavirginiagonzaleztavar7187]

This analysis is another level 👏👏👏👏

[@moustik31]

Kim and Kloe are embrassing the Kate Moss level-of-thinness. The same, that got us Millenial Black girls bullied in highschool. 🙃

[@AashaBiancaB]

Kim may not influence black women to be skinny, but Lori Harvey will. BW are obsessed with her and the pull that she has over men. Everyone is Pilates obsessed and eating 1200 calories/ day after she did that red carpet interview.

[@thecommunity1102]

Considering that the black community suffers from hypertension and obesity, I hope we catch the slim girl craze. So tired of being called skinny when I'm average or being looked down upon just cause I don't crave to be fat.

[@sevengodsstark7966]

I just subscribed, this was a good vid! Best wishes from London 🇬🇧

[@sugartub]

Your commentary in this is perfection!

[@SPQRKlio]

I’m saddened by their pursuit of aesthetics coming from using the body characteristics the rest of us are often rejected and punished for and mocked for as children and teens, and using our genetics as exchangeable accessories. I’m getting the same sadness from the woman from Serbia in this season’s 90 Day Fiancée. Her looks are her choice, but I’m still exhausted.

[@jordansthoughts54]

Very true they get praise from the thing features we are hated for. They can change themselves back and forth between our features and there’s and we are stuck ignored.

[@khanyimguli904]

That girl from 90 day fiancé from Serbia (Miona) is a blackfish she is white that’s it

[@darrengordon-hill]

NO!! You're JUST JEALOUS cos you're UNATTRACTIVE!!! Being fat gets you a big ass. DOES NOT make you attractive!!! "Fat chix with big tits" are ON EVERY BUS!!!

[@monember2722]

@@jordansthoughts54 honestly, who hates you? Who hates black women? Who hates curvy women? Why do you feel so put upon? No one is hating you for your curves and no one really cares in society. Men will continue to look. What's going to change in your life?