Why Mrs Flood is THE RANI

[@CandygramMongo]

Rearrange RANi and you get RAIN, which is how you get a FLOOD

[@forcedalek]

OH YOU COOKED

[@OrbitalCookie]

If you do that, you can also get POND and RIVER

[@SilverStrumer]

So she’ll regenerate into another actress later!

[@davrosdaleks1]

I’ve actually thought about that “rain” thing.

[@rickasheyelabs5662]

@@OrbitalCookie i doubt its river the personality is too deep and evil-like. not motherly like how river song is. possibly ever so could be amy pond aswell maybe, but that also cant make sense.

[@HWPat]

Saying "never seen a TARDIS before" with her house and door clearly visibile over her shoulder is hiding it in plain sight too. Really hope she is The Rani

[@forcedalek]

EXACTLY, if she isn't who else do you think she could be tho?

[@DavieBoy1500]

Her house also looks similar to the house 11 have to Amy and Rory in the god complex and also Amy is the girl who waited. But then wouldn’t the doctor recognise Amy even being years later and her being an older age is what puts me away from this theory

[@db5094]

​@ReeseVancouverwhat

[@db5094]

@ReeseVancouver why would it be rose Tyler she's not even in this universe or a god

[@db5094]

@ReeseVancouver not really man sorry

[@TheRantingCynic]

Worth mentioning the Rani was also supposed to be namedropped in the Giggle. Just before the Doctor bi-generates, Mel mentions the Rani, even saying she was more "amoral" than evil. This was cut from the final release because it felt clunky, but it's still in the script. Now multiple mentions of the Rani within a few episodes of each other is probably just them flexing they can do it now, but who knows, maybe it's a portent.

[@forcedalek]

They are definitely telling us they have the rights back, question is do you want her back?

[@horacioestebanherrera4582]

@@forcedalek I would like to see The Rani. :D

[@stacyp2186]

When she was walking down the sidewalk, she dropped her groceries when she saw the Tardis disappear. Later she knew what it was and not surprised. Sounds like someone had opened a fob watch in between scenes.

[@jamz9245]

Bringing back Fob Watches as a plot point is definitely something RTD would do

[@OrbitalCookie]

@@jamz9245 And also lie that this is soft reboot 😂 There is no emotional significance of seeing a fob-watch for anyone who has not experienced the "human nature" before... Doing proper reboot means being welcoming to the new audience and introducing everything properly, aka 2005 "Dalek" episode. I swear if the daleks start exterminating the next week without a proper intro I will write a very angry youtube comment.

[@fudouakio4759]

'never seen a TARDIS before' and not 'never seen THE TARDIS before' rules out a ton of non-timelord options tbh

[@jamz9245]

This is one of the most likely theories, along with The Trickster's return. Perhaps they're both coming back...

[@forcedalek]

Do you think they'd team up?

[@jamz9245]

​@@forcedalek It's definitely possible, but that raises the question of what their common goal would be...

[@dwf12gamez58]

And RTD liked one of my theory’s on insta when I stated miss flood could be the Rani

[@moonmower5575]

I posted “Yabagoobie” on one of his posts and he still liked it

[@forcedalek]

If she wasn't the rani who else would you like her to be?

[@forcedalek]

real

[@dwf12gamez58]

@@forcedalek alternate valeyard

[@coppergolem9444]

​@@dwf12gamez58I actually love that theory and just the little things about the tardis being blue. Well, when you think about it, the only reason the doctor's tardis is blue is because he got it stuck on the police box setting pretty much every other tardis you see in doctor who looks nothing like a police box. I think the ranis actually looks like a pyramid. On the other hand, you never see the valley yards tardis to the best of my knowledge/ memory

[@tmage23]

Rule #1: The Doctor lies. Rule #2: It's never the Rani

[@forcedalek]

Rule 1: until he doesn't.. And Rule 2: Until she is.. In all seriousness though, who do you think her to be?

[@tmage23]

@@forcedalek The Rani is a decent guess. But also...Pond, River, Flood??

[@sebbysanity]

​@@tmage23 also rani - rain - flood

[@PallysCafe]

Rule #3: the first rule is cringe.

[@chrispy3369]

Why wouldn't she recognize the police box as the Doctor's TARDIS. Whoever she is, she definitely knows what a TARDIS is supposed to be, but she only clocks on to it after it dematerializes. She might be a Timelady, but she's not someone we've met before.

[@matthewhegarty2873]

Feigning ignorance

[@matthewhegarty2873]

Feigning ignorance I reckon!

[@retrogiftsuk4812]

Unless her memories are locked up in one of those pocket watch things. They are an RTD creation, so he could bring them back.

[@matthewhegarty2873]

@@retrogiftsuk4812 Chameleon Arch is what it’s called! Usually in the form of a Fob watch but can be used in other forms too!

[@chrispy3369]

@@retrogiftsuk4812 Still doesn't explain the biggest elephant in the room. She breaks the 4th wall. This is not something the Rani or the majority of timelords tend to do. The only people we have seen do this is the Doctor and The Maestro, and possibly other members of the Pantheon or whatever Godlike races exist.

[@TheokelAgain]

I think it’d be really funny if The Rani never came back again just to see how much longer people can speculate if it’s the rani or not for

[@forcedalek]

Would also be down for this ngl, who do you think Mrs Flood is tho?

[@TheokelAgain]

@@forcedalek I’m not sure! It seems Susan twist is meant to be the big twist (no pun intended) character we all assumed Mrs flood would be! I could see her being just a whimsical Christmas special character who turns out to be nobody at all, or for her to be the one tying everything together

[@C.F.R.-nl8hz]

Also raini is an anagram of rain, rain causes floods.

[@lucasoheyze4597]

Also an anagram of "I Ran"...who ran? Jenny, The Doctor's daughter...

[@NoFormalTraining]

Just giving the video a second watch, and I don't think Mrs Floods front door is number 4. Around 1:04 she's seen going down the steps to the basement flat below number 4, whose door we can't see in any of the shots. Might mean nothing, because it wouldn't be the first time an entire building, or part of one, turns out to be a spacecraft of some sort.

[@owenwildish331]

Better yet, a reformed non-villionus incarnation of the Rani, maybe...?

[@hanlee3345]

Remind me of Missy’s redemption arc till SIMM’s Master showed up

[@TheManInBlueFlames]

The Rani is the only one who could not be villainous.

[@SilverStrumer]

She’ll likely regenerate to the Rani with a new actor that they have yet to hire. I wonder who could play her? Moffat and Davies are gonna be going on a casting spree again!

[@f-zilla7347]

They’re always the Rani until they aren’t.

[@forcedalek]

Or until they are.. how likely /10 do you think Mrs flood is?

[@itsalexney]

The heartbeat in the trailer for the finale uses a timelords heartbeat.

[@vwes]

I agree, very possible she is the Rani. Why ? She cant be the Master, hes still a gold tooth while shes around. Even the Master cant be in two places at once. She knows about the Tardis. In the final episode she says on the bed just before being turned to dust "Just as I was going to have some fun" a line the Rani has said in her previous appearances. Last, yes, Mrs Flood, Rain, Rani.

[@buzzybeepopman2009]

I agree plus even though I love the master/missy I think we need a break from that character

[@whophd]

MEL & THE RANI …

[@josephryan362]

I agree with you she is the Rani see reckons the doctor and her door is blue and she is the Rani a time lord and she never changes her clothes and she is the Rani and is keeping tabs on the doctor I know she is not the master because she is the Rani

[@quintessentialquinten3346]

"justice for this poor man" has me wheezing for some reason lmfao

[@forcedalek]

Credit to my editor for that one

[@YoungButRetro]

Hehe that's my fault

[@raffausfaus]

Damn, can be her. But I prefer my theory that she is a descendant of the Ponds (water related surname). Let me dream hehe Or: Susan Foreman (who was also mentioned in this season)

[@mrstephen43084]

But she saw the tardis earlier in the episode and complained to the landlord about it as if she didn’t know it was a tardis.

[@forcedalek]

Perhaps she didn’t know it WAS the TARDIS, she would assume the doctor is dead and maybe thought it’s just an annoyance, ORR she had her memories lost and it taking off is what opened her mind

[@Sir_Gerald_Nosehairs.]

The Rani can't come back. The rights to the character are currently unknown after both Pip and Jane Baker died. Maybe they've found out who owns them and made a deal, but as far as I'm aware, that remains the case.

[@Paul-vt6tx]

It's possible they tracked down and negotiated the Rights to the Rani. I'm not sure how name checking works for rights issues, but it would be good to bring back the Rani as the Master is Parked for a while unless she's Rassalon and that would just be a headache

[@philnewton-england7795]

Rights have now been sorted out.

[@Hellosidney123]

Considering you got the suetek thing right I’m not doubting you got this

[@forcedalek]

In force we trust

[@theunknowneditor63]

We'll come back to this video in 2025, whatever happens. 🙃

[@forcedalek]

Yes, we will come back and see if I am correct (I am!)

[@supersecret4390]

If we say this about enough characters we'll eventually be right

[@forcedalek]

My thoughts exactly

[@shannonsmith924]

No this is unlikely. Whats more likely is she’s disguised as Mel as no one suspects her from her coming back, she’s also infiltrated unit and the Rani has disguised herself as Mel once before, perhaps now she just has better disguises.

[@forcedalek]

That would be SUCH an epic scale plot twist

[@ryanlamb2636]

Hi mate when is your next what if videos out mate?

[@forcedalek]

Soon

[@ryanlamb2636]

@@forcedalek ok mate.

[@zarrg5611]

My heart wishes for this, but my brain still doubts.

[@forcedalek]

TRUST

[@ZioName]

After the Sutekh shitpost, watch this being correct too.

[@McMomfaceplustwo]

Appearance wise too, the actresses have very similar distinct cheeks and general facial expressions

[@Jm649]

omg that would be so cool! i didn't think about that...

[@Leon-gv5ih]

She COULD also be Clara with the finale out. She wore claras clothes from Face the Raven (im pretty sure). Clara has her own TARDIS. And Jenna played 4 versions of Clara and Mrs flood lives in house number 4. Plus in the finale Flood calls the doctor a "Clever boy". However all of this could be RTD trying to hide the fact it is the Rani seen as though Mrs Flood seems sinister

[@vwes]

I was convinced she was the Rani. But having seen the last episode, Mrs Flood was sporting a white fur coat...its identical to the one worn by Romana

[@shazprothero7912]

something I just noticed watching you video. In your video at 2.00 exactly look at the top of Mrs Floods door. look at the shadow. their seems to be no reason for it. It almost makes it look like 2 doors. The Tardis has 2 doors

[@Twillek1019_]

I’ll laugh if it ends up being the master, lol

[@NinGamer01]

This is such a grasping at loose threads/straws theory

[@forcedalek]

Perfect 🥸

[@NinGamer01]

@@forcedalek I feel like she’s more of a watcher type character something akin to the MCU type character

[@JunkratCake]

Maybe her house could also be the memory tardis 🤔

[@forcedalek]

Would make sense, did you enjoy tales of the TARDIS?

[@Jack-hr9xw]

Mrs flood could be the rani and her house is her tardis

[@Jamesalec63]

Doesn't she live in the basement flat below that door of course she may own the whole building and may even rent the flat Ruby's mum and gran live in. But her being Rani still has an intriguing plot I agree with, but here's another wildcard she might be another time lord one called himself The Monk of course he did regenerate now called The Nun. Mrs Flood actually or either of them? Or possibly alternatively an old companion of the doctor briefly the third doctor or fourth there is a possibility of this I recall Antea once before appeared in Doctor Who 48 years ago when Sarah Jane left or something similar a new reporter turned up and I think it was Antea? But I might have been wrong. The Rani wore red or green-like gemstones red like rubies?

[@SukruKaydak]

But what would they get from making Rani an old lady? Because we're not getting a regeneration soon, seeing that she's in season 2.

[@Cats1357911]

The doctor and the master have both been old before.

[@TheRantingCynic]

@SukruKaydak Back before Kate O'Mara passed, she had expressed an interest in coming back as the Rani for NuWho, and pitched the idea of playing into her age: “To have a much older woman as your adversary, there's something interesting about that. She's learned so much over the centuries-it would be like in the fairy stories, where it's always the old woman who is the most frightening."

[@jasons-jungle]

But is that her door? You see her going downthe stairs to the bottom flat, but do you see her using that door? The Rani also knows what the Doctors tardis looks like so why be shocked enough to drop her shopping?

[@MrsFloodIsTheRani]

Rain - Rani After the rain, you get a flood.

[@rgreed20081]

If Mrs. Flood is RANI, she is much what I will call a Gray Character. A gray character is both an anti-hero and anti-villain. She is likely watching over Ruby as well as the Doctor. She may play a very important art in stopping Sutekh. The Doctor Who Doomsday Trolls seem to having a field day over the 15th Doctor. They say that the Doctor Who series is coming to an end. In reality, it seems that the D. is playing with the Trolls. Basically if D. is trying to return to the roots of Doctor Who as a Space Opera, he is doing a good job by teasing everyone. A space Opera is a series which had a long arc. Each of the episodes can either be a sub-arc a critical part in the main arc, or a good filler which provides relief from the arc. Oddly the Arc do work. Best arcs to date are Bad Wolf, Amy's child, and the Girl who wonders thru time.

[@NoFormalTraining]

There's just one thing that wouldn't make sense for Mrs Flood to be The Rani. The Rani is a mad scientist who obsessively conducts her own scientific tests with no regards for things like Health and Safety. Granted, we've not seen inside her house, yet, but I can't see the Rani settling down to hide on Earth, without going somewhere secluded where she can still get ahold of unwilling tests subjects, and dispose of their mangled corpses.

[@ABCDG13]

Could she be the Doctor’s partner in the Key to Time Arc, Romana?

[@maxcardun]

Hmmmmm I'm afraid I'm going to put this one into a bit of doubt. Unless Russel T Davis is generalizing what a TARDIS should look like, and you are, that door to her apartment may not actually be a TARDIS. Since the reveal of "Missy" we've seen Time Lords regenerate into an opposite gender, making it possible if Mrs Flood is a Time Lord for her to be "The Master". However I didn't hear much about this rights issue, and Gatwa name dropping The Rani, apparently Big Finish didn't have this problem. The name dropping in of itself could be the better signal seed of this plotline. But if Flood is The Rani she has apparently changed her MO seeing as The Rani was more of a Mad Scientist than a prophet of doom.

[@danielwilliamson6180]

Rani Rain Flood. That is genius.

[@TheManInBlueFlames]

I reckon Rani is the Rani... Figure that one out...

[@TheManInBlueFlames]

The Rani is Rani from SJA

[@flopius1]

She's the meddling monk.

[@nodatastored684]

Look at the Toymakers door too

[@MinhTran-qe3nj]

Is there a chance that's she's susan?

[@forcedalek]

Of course, do you think she is then?

[@MinhTran-qe3nj]

@forcedalek Well they talk about Susan in a very big way in the devil cord, arguing even more than the rani name drop. I think we're getting either susan or the rani back as either mrs. flood, Susan twist or ruby's mom.

[@gregevigan]

this is RTD2, she'll just be normal person.

[@elvynbirch795]

I just wondered if Mrs flood she might be Rani and for Susan Triad or twist she might be Queen of time one of the pantheon of gods

[@shoogamoogaman]

Wait... how did they not have the rights to the Rani??

[@OTGGame]

Also, her door looks like a police box TARDIS.

[@forcedalek]

Nice catch! How likely do you think she is the rani /10?

[@OTGGame]

@@forcedalek I've not gotten up to that point in the classic series, so I don't know enough about the Rani to make an assumption based on what little we have seen of Mrs Flood so I say 5/10.

[@KadeSmash]

I doubt she's the rani. She was also wearing Clara's outfit that doesn't make her Clara

[@archief1783]

Could she not be Susan tho?

[@forcedalek]

She could but why would she be hiding from the Doctor?

[@susaniacuone5758]

I think Romana is also a possibility

[@yeOldeThorne]

Ok but if she's the Rani why is she so friendly?

[@racerunner1234]

She is pretending

[@yeOldeThorne]

@@racerunner1234 oh yeah that makes sense

[@forcedalek]

The rani was always more friendly than the master in general, but she would probably keeping her cover while she schemes

[@yeOldeThorne]

@@forcedalek huh, interesting I haven't actually watched those episodes so I wouldn't know, but the Rani's always given me a "doesn't give a shit about you" vibe while the Master always seemed more of a "sweet talking you to manipulate and backstab you" vibe

[@kaydog2450]

Anyone thought that mrs flood could also be romana

[@phil__1097]

Maybe she’s the master!

[@imperadorsupremofonsecaex4623]

Nah, she probably is just a new character or ally!!!!

[@forcedalek]

An ally would be cool, do you think shes human though?

[@gabrielcoventry4586]

@@forcedalek She's either a Time Agent or a Timelord. I can't see any other way she'd know what a Tardis is. Either that or she's part of the new pantheon and has had experience with timelords before or something but I that would feel a bit lame to me

[@timecontroller8800]

Aaahhh it’s always Susan, omega or the rani the rani isn’t even that good of a villain also surely if the rani was back she would immediately recognise the tardis as the tardis as I don’t think she would think it was anything else

[@forcedalek]

Unless she didn't have her memories or assumed the Doctor died in the time war

[@marshallwood2968]

Joan collins should play the Rani

[@SodorWho]

I think she’s Sarah Jane.

[@steve8510]

Or she's Susan's mother out for revenge

[@forcedalek]

Is she a timelord ?

[@brandoncattermole9403]

I hope she is the Rani

[@edmundprice5276]

I think it's more likely that she is susan, Or maybe even river song

[@forcedalek]

Who would you pick?

[@edmundprice5276]

@@forcedalek flood as river, or possibly Susan, hmm, well one thing is for sure, I think that whoever it is can regenerate, maybe a past version of river, but a little farfetched. Susan, makes sense that she would travel back to the 1960s. Thing is, it's like someone walked into the doctors timeline like Clara did. I'm stumped really.

[@hanlee3345]

@@edmundprice5276i personally think River’s time is over. I think Ms Twist is Susan( Doctor’s granddaughter) and Ms Flood is Rani or a spy working under the Pantheon(a new original character)

[@josephcooter5763]

Um I don't think that Mrs Flood is the Rani. Since here creators, Pip and Jan Baker, died without leaving a will nobody knows who knows owns the right's to her. So it's doubtful that she is the Rani. Maybe she is Romana or Susan.

[@Colin4763]

Mmm I'm not convinced. still time will tell. as it usually does in the Tardis.😊😊

[@steffanballantine5904]

One problem! The husband and wife who created the Rani both died they didn't have any children and nobody knows who owns the rights to the Rani! So the BBC can not bring her back because they don't own the rights and nobody knows who does!

[@nodatastored684]

And Creator of the Meep

[@Bird-Birdy-Love]

Yeah her being the Rani is no brain teaser, who has so lost so much originality even its writing the build up is not even clever anymore.

[@CJ-qp7hi]

Rani Rain Flood

[@charliesarasyoutubeadventu7539]

But she does change her clothes.

[@TheInedibleHulk]

Obviously she's the wife of Mr Flood

[@Vamtrix]

It is absolutely not the Rani. Steven Moffat is on record as saying that there is no point in bringing her back. Additionally, BBC cannot get the rights to the character from the estate. I will 100 percent be here when you are totally wrong to hear you say I am right.

[@vwes]

Never say never in Sci Fi and TV. Where theres a will theres a way and a pay cheque ;-)

[@buzzybeepopman2009]

I also think the same

[@tomimpala]

Why can the Rani suddenly break the fourth wall lol

[@forcedalek]

I think beings that have timey wimey heads can now sometimes break the fourth wall ever since the toymaker broke the rules of reality, we’ve seen the doctor do it in devils chord too remember

[@mattthesilent777RED]

And why I couldn't care less about a non-canon character

[@doctort1899]

I think She dress Looks like a Clara Cuz Clara dress Same

[@JazneoGaming]

it Romana

[@thewhitewolf1156]

Doctor Who ended in 1989 so, no, she isn’t

[@orwellknew3408]

Way past caring .... Doctor Who RIP

[@forcedalek]

If you don't care why click on the video