This Is Why You're Wrong About Zelda

Finn McKenty (aka ‪@ThePunkRockMBA‬) joins Josh and Mort on the Garagecast for a game of Over/Under where they rank #zelda, #sonicthehedgehog, #retrogaming staples like old tech on new tech, and more!
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[@ThePunkRockMBA]

Thank you for having me! I stand by my opinions on CRT shaders and OOT 😇

[@MortsGarage]

So glad to have you on!

[@Woodmanclassics]

I strongly agree with you over Josh’s opinion. But I have to add I like to do research on what the designers used to make the game. For example, NES and SNES at Nintendo headquarters they were using Sony PVMs (2030, 2530 and 3230 line) that’s what I prefer to play on. I like seeing exactly what the designers used and what their eyes and minds intended them to look like. But I can appreciate RF terrible crt’s for a childhood nostalgic experience.

[@AmericanMe]

👏👌🤘

[@OGeniusTheFirst]

The collab the world didn’t know they needed

[@aaronsparks819]

It was so amazing to see you this team up!!!😮😮😮

[@7thangelad586]

I didn’t experience OOT until four or five years ago; and I had the real joy to play it with my eight year old niece. I marveled the entire time at her unadulterated reactions. That to me made it a wonderfully timeless story.

[@MortsGarage]

Love this!

[@kevindie]

*_Two people I’m subbed to and never thought I’d see collab! This is awesome!_*

[@MortsGarage]

No, you're awesome!

[@diplenski]

Ocarina of time is s tier. I have the ‘hey listen’ for my text alert right now.

[@MortsGarage]

Hahaha - that would drive me nuts

[@diplenski]

@@MortsGarage i don't get texts often enough that it would annoy me

[@JRPGLife]

I liked the part where you mentioned an N64 game was overrated. This spoke to me.

[@MortsGarage]

Hahaha

[@Enlacealpasado_]

Wow, I disagree very hard with these people, Ocarina of Time is a huge jump for the gaming industry and a great game to play even for nowadays standards.

[@JebberGamingJaws]

I played Ocarina of Time for the first time on my 2DS in 2015. Absolute banger, I finally got to see what all the fuss was about, and it was mo than warranted. It’s not overrated, or underrated, it’s just about perfectly rated.

[@MortsGarage]

I still love it!

[@vivithegr8389]

lmao horrible takes pretty much all around. oof

[@MortsGarage]

I am definitely out of touch :) Would love to know your thoughts!

[@Woodmanclassics]

Couldn’t agree more about Zelda Ocarina of Time. Link to the Past is and will always be the pinnacle of Zelda. Josh has redeemed himself after letting me down with the first question about HDTVs

[@MortsGarage]

I feel so alone in my love of OoT…

[@Woodmanclassics]

@@MortsGarage to be fair a majority of Zelda fans agree with you on this one

[@NeonPizza80s]

A Link to the past is peak top down Zelda. It's straight up magical and 100% stands the test of time. My only critique is that I wish it were a little more difficult, but it's still an easy 10/10. Experiencing it at my best buddies house in 92 was unreal, and made my Sega Genesis look 3rd fiddle. ;) Meanwhile, Ocarina was quite the stunner back in the later 90's, and it boasted one heck of a soundtrack(Deku Tree theme comes to mind). But the gloomy depressing dark green & brown environments, clunky controls, less intuitive 3D combat, and slower gameplay mechanics never hooked me. But at least there's no time limit like in Majora's Mask. The 3DS version is definitely a lot easier on the eyes and Nintendo made the environments a lot more colourful and less depressing this time around AND it's in stereoscopic 3D. But playing it on a tiny screen just doesn't do the game justice. That's the big trade off, and it's still extremely dated and clunky when sided next to something like BOTW.

[@Xavi_oh]

@@MortsGarageyou are defintely not alone. lets remember OOT has been made, remade, re-released. far more than any other zelda game becuase it simply still sells and holds up more value than any other zelda game.

[@DecimatedPlague666]

Damn the amount of hate for OOT here is astounding. It’s ok that they are wrong tho, OOT is the GOAT. I said what I said.

[@MortsGarage]

My man - I love the game!

[@DecimatedPlague666]

@@MortsGarage “LISTEN!” I played it and finished it as a teenager, it was ground breaking, there wasn’t another game around like it… and hyrule field is colored just fine. lol it’s grass… it’s grass. lol I have been replaying it now and it’s still so good. My wife has been watching and loves all the songs and fell in love with the game herself. I’ll defend OOT till this day, TILL THIS DAY! 🧚

[@MortsGarage]

@@DecimatedPlague666 Same - glad to know we are in the same boat on this one :)

[@Fassads_Interpretor]

I prefer the gamecube titles OoT and MM are cheap and dont have that much difficulty its all about hiding enemies that will knock you back as you jump platforms shitting you out near the beginning of the dungeon, ive never been a fan of cheap games that consider that "difficulty"

[@maryldemilo]

Yeah, I could NOT figure out the Ocarina of Time... nice intro guy!

[@MortsGarage]

👊🤘

[@KayFabeMedia]

Talk about over rated Zelda, its gotta be Wind Waker. Sorry, but any game where I can just look at my phone for several mins as my boat takes me where I need to go, isn't super compelling. Everything in between the ocean stuff is great, but people complain about the empty pointless hyrule field in OOT but the ocean in Wind Waker is much worse.

[@MortsGarage]

It's my least favorite from a gameplay perspective, but visually it's still a marvel :)

[@deathisaprimitiveconcept]

Ocarina of time... for me I played it at the time not knowing all the hype about it being the greatest game of all time (I somehow missed those issues of Nintendo Power/EGM etc)... if I had known how highly regarded it was, I may have persevered with it... as it was, my experience with the N64 was "this is a massive mixed bag, they're still trying to figure it out, there's some hits and some misses." So you had the absolute masterpiece that was Mario 64, and then you had Castlevania 64... when I played Ocarina of Time, I thought "okay this is on the Castlevania end of the spectrum" and I just never got that far in to it before abandoning it (much like Castlevania 64). Looking back, I wish I had persevered with OOT but I still think it is overrated. It frustrates me to no end that there is a generation of kids for whom OOT was their first Zelda and they are absolutely maniacally fixated on it being the template for what a 3D Zelda game is forever and ever ("BOTW is not a real Zelda! Give me the OOT template again despite no one actually wanting that as indicated by the middling reviews and sales [citation needed] of pre-BOTW 3D Zelda games and the huge success of BOTW/TOTK!"). Sorry, I usually keep this bottled and hearing Finn and Josh's thoughts has empowered me to find my voice lol.

[@MortsGarage]

We are glad to empower :)

[@HoonAgain]

What?!! Punk Rock MBA?!! How awesome. Did not expect to see him here but I’m stoked. His channel is next level. This is exactly what a gaming pod should do. Grab who you can and who you know that broadens the topic. Love it. Nice job guys!!

[@MortsGarage]

Really appreciate this!

[@johnsducks9816]

Haha thanks for being honest about Ocarina, it is easily the most overrated game of all time. Without nostalgia as a factor today it is a 3/10

[@MortsGarage]

BLASPHEMY! Lol

[@Eagleknight815]

Sweet conversation. But they are right Mort; LttP will always be the superior game to OoT. But BotW was the first Zelda that got me into 3Ds. Also, no love for the ATB?! Bah! Get off my Super NES lawn! 😂

[@MortsGarage]

Hahaha - Cheers!!

[@Woodmanclassics]

Great topics all around!

[@MortsGarage]

Thanks for being here ❤️

[@neilarnold5506]

This was a fantastic video, I loved every second of the discussion. I had a much longer comment - as I was going along with the conversation. Then I accidently went to a new video (mouse had the forward and back buttons where my thumb goes and when I came back, my comment was all gone lol - so I felt defeated and gave up on remembering all of it or trying again :P). Keep up all the great work Mort and crew, see you all for the next one. #Roadto30k

[@MortsGarage]

Glad you enjoyed it 👊🤘

[@Chriscras2]

Fire Emblem / Ogre Battle tactics turn based games are the best turn based battle systems 😄

[@Kswitchem]

Saying that Genshin Impact is a better game than Breath of the Wild is pure undiluted crazy talk. Imagine thinking a manipulative, free to play gacha game that preys on the player is better than a handcrafted deliberate world. 🥴

[@MortsGarage]

I don't disagree with Finn that BotW feels a bit empty.

[@iamLI3]

>the n64 die hard defending oot still claims god of war 2018 is better it's not

[@MortsGarage]

I forgot to mention that my opinion is objectively true

[@fireant353]

Wow did not expect to see Finn here lol, i haven't seen that dude in ages, let alone in the video game scene.

[@tannerpalm2566]

Was not expecting Finn on morts garage. I love it. Big fan of both channels! Thx for making this happen!

[@MortsGarage]

Finn is a real one - was thrilled he was up to the challenge

[@Xavi_oh]

finn simly has a taste like everyone else. its just subjective he is neither right or wrong about it. is funny beucase what he enhoys about windwaker which is mostlyt he art style is what i hate the most about it. the mechanics and everything else are basic zelda games in all of them. well except for the sea which also kind of bothers me. i like for there to be a big land mass. i dont mind sky and water compotents into it. but like i need my big hyrule in a zelda game. OOT no matter how you see it either objectively or subjectively is going to be at the top. objectively the numbers are just there and subjectively well we all know what the general opinon is.

[@MortsGarage]

I love that comments like this have come up more than once. It makes for a way more constructive environment. Thanks for being here!

[@HoonAgain]

Like and subscribe people!! So Mort and Josh can bring on more awesome guests like Finn to the pod!!!

[@MortsGarage]

❤️👊

[@NeonPizza80s]

It's just too bad that CRT's will never look as good as they once did out of the box. With age, they loose brightness, black levels get lighter, colours can lose saturation and whatever else. I'd say the best thing to do would be to find a 27 - 32" Sony WEGA Trinitron CRT(2005) with low hours off market place, whenever they pop up. Aside from these sets being almost 15 years old, people that owned many of them quickly made the transition over to those terrible LCD's and first wave plasma's at the time, so I'm sure plenty of the WEGA's weren't as abused anywhere near as much in the hour department compared to the CRT's that released throughout the 90's. I just hate the big boxy silver bezel aesthetic...There's nothing 90's about it. :P Oh, and another great option which has it's own benefits, although it can't match the blur-free motion clarity of CRT nor is it latency free, would be to buy a smaller QD-OLED(Samsung S90C) and pairing it with a RetroTINK4K, which has a wealth of options to tinker with that can easily emulate the look of a CRT. Those two things combined is the ultimate CRT alternative, but it's a much more expensive route to take as the TINK4K retails for a grand CAD, and then a QD-OLED will run you another $1500+. Strictly in terms of picture quality, you'll gain perfect blacks, high brightness, whiter whites & progressive scan, but CRT will reign supreme-O with perfect motion clarity and zero input lag, and won't obliterate the wallet by means. :D I'd personally would rather just roll with a Brand new fresh out of the box black bezeled' 27-32" Sony Trinitron CRT from the late 90's, but that option just doesn't exist anymore. They've all aged. What a bummer. lol

[@MortsGarage]

The amount of options is interesting to me, but I really wonder what kinds of solutions people will come up with in the future

[@NeonPizza80s]

@@MortsGarage Oh for sure. I think, a 42" QD'-OLED paired with a TINK4K is the best CRT alternative, when using it's 60hz black frame insertion to cut down 50% of motion blur. In the end, you're still gonna have 50% more motion blur than a CRT which is blur free, and a total of around 15ms of latency, while CRT has zero lag. :P So there's no perfect solution just yet, but things are definitely improving no doubt.

[@dragonslayer557]

Hearing finn praise genshin and star rail blew my mind

[@almighty_rivers]

OMG we got Ocarina of Time Sucks and is a smear of brown and green, Sonic is the encapsulation of Sega fans loosing the war and not wanting to take a loss and got a "not a fan of Jim Carrey" from Mort😭😂 So much blasphemy and I still enjoyed every Min. lmao Heading over to "Mort's Attic" to hear the rest when it drops:)

[@MortsGarage]

Hehehe - I appreciate your gracious comment!

[@almighty_rivers]

@@MortsGarage You're a Gem my dude thank you for all the hard work🙏

[@stevinharper3551]

If youre here cause of Finn to then leave a like please.

[@Triple_A_Gaymer]

Some of the worst takes ever in this video 😂 it’s so clear they didn’t play the game when it first came out

[@MortsGarage]

I specialize in bad takes :)

[@TheColehabo]

Why Morts Garage Is Overrated shoud be a better title:p

[@MortsGarage]

Hahaha

[@Tommyskylarr]

I wasn’t expecting the Ocarina of Time hate! 😅I’m not blindly devoted to it. It was great to get the perspective of view of someone who didn’t grow up loving it like l did.

[@MortsGarage]

I legit love it. Josh and Finn are wrong on this one.

[@Tommyskylarr]

At least you love it. They are wrong. That game was a revelation for me!

[@RetroGaming_07]

The legend of zelda franchise is one of the best in Nintendo's library. Ocarina of time will always be one of my favorites for the Nintendo 64.

[@CmPuke101_]

He can’t keep getting away with this

[@MortsGarage]

It's okay CJ. All opinions and beliefs are welcome at the table. Especially yours!

[@sethtanner1]

Also loved the Sonic movies more than I thought!

[@MortsGarage]

Riiiight??

[@popculturehero]

Sonic is definitely a case where people have dealt with the janky cameras and new player traps. Because that was one of the few games we had, and would play the first couple stages so much it was second nature. Emerald Hill zone is a sacred happy place. I prefer it to Mario because the levels are more ambitious, and its more themed around machines. Ocarina of time was a Mind-blowing game. It does not have the quality of life features we expect today, but basically people put up with games having issues, and just enjoyed having an action Rpg on the n64. Most Zelda games tend to be a lot like Disneyland when you think about it in there are separate themed lands to visit with a castle in the center. Ocarina just had a specific order to the adventure despite looking open world.

[@MortsGarage]

And to add - I love a great Disneyland ride, so that comparison doesn’t bother me

[@121bot]

the new zelda games after OOT are not so good (open world)

[@MortsGarage]

I want to love them, but they’ve never gotten their books in me the way the more linear experiences do

[@Sayzee_YFRWN]

Jesus, the guy in the hat has some of the worst gaming takes I’ve ever heard, but I salute to you for being honest😂

[@MortsGarage]

I aim for honesty :) The full length episode shares his favorites and it turns out he and Josh are twins

[@Sayzee_YFRWN]

@@MortsGarage that’s a beautiful thing about gaming. My favourite could be something he doesn’t even think is good , it’s like music its very opinionated❤️🫵🏻

[@MortsGarage]

@@Sayzee_YFRWN You seem to understand the balance of being critical of people’s opinions while keeping their dignity unscathed 👊

[@Sayzee_YFRWN]

@@MortsGarage love the vids bro 😎 keep it up

[@isaias630]

OOT THE KING 👑 I’ll die on that hill

[@MortsGarage]

❤️

[@DadsGameRoompodcast]

Loved this. I really enjoy hearing other content creators I watch talk about things off topic of what they normally talk about. The topics were spot on too. Great stuff!

[@MortsGarage]

Cheers! 🤘

[@TheNintendoDScollector]

Ocarina of time 3ds triumphants all.

[@MortsGarage]

I realllllllly wish it got an HD remaster

[@TheNintendoDScollector]

@MortsGarage when it does (if nintendo is smart), it'll take the spot for #1. The 3ds version can bow to it.

[@diegoarmando5489]

Honkai Star Rail is better than Genshin 😊

[@MortsGarage]

Haven't played either - they look crazy expansive!

[@vinylreckoning]

Allllll the hot takes! Love it. I think Stacey (Frank) argued with the TV a few times

[@MortsGarage]

Hahaha - One of the many reasons she (and you!) is loved!

[@CameronForrester]

Windwaker > OOT

[@MortsGarage]

No.

[@megamob5834]

Unexpected and awesome crossover! 😮🤘 (Despite the OoT slander… 😏) I will say Finn has the uncanny ability to remain totally engaging even when I completely disagree with him 😂

[@MortsGarage]

Totally agree!!

[@pixelsandwich4104]

Heres the thing...

[@MortsGarage]

Hahaha

[@paulgerald1985]

Extreme G was my JAM. When I was in my early teens in the late 90's I would race the campaign against the AI while listening to Nirvana's Nevermind album. The campaign was the same length as the album, and the mood felt right.

[@MortsGarage]

I just love everything about this post

[@bobbygarcia34]

Finn is such a great guy 🥺🥺🥺

[@MortsGarage]

He’s been incredibly generous and helpful to me (and many others). I am grateful for him!

[@diplenski]

I play my nes original hardware plugged right into the side of the modern tv with whatever the red, yellow, white cables are. Though there are only spots for 2 or them, audio and video input. I’m sure there are better options, but I use what I have on hand. Some look better than others. Legend of Zelda looks decent enough

[@MortsGarage]

I think that’s the supreme way to do it

[@isaacescalera9643]

Morts face of delight when theres an IMMEDIATE disagreement lol. Also, i did not have the Punk Rock MBA on ny Bingo Card for guest but I dig it

[@MortsGarage]

Glad you're here!

[@heatherfryling4868]

There is a business in the Seattle area, Retro Perception, that recaps, calibrates, and fully refurbished CRTs. CRTs around here will last forever. ;)

[@MortsGarage]

That’s rad!!

[@mjdf122]

Mort podcast time

[@MortsGarage]

🤘🤘

[@onbrokenwingsx1]

My opinion on ocarina is that if you played it during the time it was released it was an amazing story and experience but if you go back to it now it just feels too primitive. Ill just keep the OG memory in my heart

[@MortsGarage]

Love this take on things tbh

[@aaronbritton4563]

Papa Finn 🖤

[@samuelmartin117]

12:50 the funniest - the difference in video games players types of games gets overlooked too much. Video games have so many genres and opinions that should be respected. To many try and force gamers one way or the other.

[@MortsGarage]

Lol

[@jrockudont]

I’m opposed on almost every topic you guys mentioned but I’m glad we can all agree to disagree and be friends.

[@MortsGarage]

Not just saying this - being as sincere as can be - you are making the internet better for everyone. I appreciate you!

[@raywill2007]

Just say it’s the holiday weekend and you didn’t feel like making new content, Mort. 😂

[@MortsGarage]

Not even true :) Haha I have a handful of videos in the works and don’t want to rush anything, but i did put a lot of time into this edit. It was a fun conversation and have loved getting to talk with Finn :)

[@Tomb76ski]

Amazing; I feel like parts of my world are colliding in a beautifal way

[@MortsGarage]

❤😊

[@MegacoreTeamJake]

Awesome seeing older people's views on Ocarina of Time who grew up with ALTTP.

[@MortsGarage]

Which do you prefer between the 2?

[@MegacoreTeamJake]

@@MortsGarage I prefer ALTTP over OoT but I prefer Majora's Mask, Twilight Princess and Wind Waker over ALTTP.

[@startervisions]

I disagree with Finn... ...and yet I think he's right

[@MortsGarage]

😂❤

[@startervisions]

@@MortsGarage hot takes are a dish best served cold

[@psface22]

Jub Jub!

[@cleanhits8361]

Can’t wait to see if his opinions and knowledge on games are as bad as music 👍🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈🇵🇸

[@MortsGarage]

I enjoyed his take :) Thanks for watching!

[@cleanhits8361]

@@MortsGarage love you bae

[@jacobd1825]

@@kevindiehe’s deplorable.

[@startervisions]

☝️🤓🤳

[@Maxquaza]

What's up with the emoji's lol

[@RetroHoundGaming]

Gees after all that hate I wonder what games Finn ACTUALLY likes

[@MortsGarage]

We talk about that in the full length episode. He has some great choices!

[@RetroHoundGaming]

@@MortsGarage ok I believe in your Mortimus Prime don’t let me down lol