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[@a.lame.username.]

Who is going to vote Mark Wildman the best thing to ever happen to training with levers ? What a freaking legend!

[@SImonDeLikaeble]

Agree. Legend!

[@ankan.andersson]

I’ve been to 6 chiropractors the last two years, none of them could ”figure out” how to get rid of my neckpain. Tomorrow its day 14 of doing Marks neck exercises and most of my issues are totally gone. God bless this man. 🙏

[@pattysylvanbutterfly433]

UPDATE: So grateful to Mark for adding Indian Clubs to the TOI package. Was in cycle 3 of TOI, progressing well. Had abdominal surgery early March for new gyn cancer diagnosis. Turns out TOI got me in shape to recover quickly from that surgery. Had post-op lift restrictions so I did walking & Indian Clubs just to move & recover. Now I’m back to my Club Track TOI with KB & bat; & it feels good. I’m doing chemo & other treatments, but the FOUNDATION of my recovery is continuing the TOI program. These exercises are power moves, & much of cancer treatment can feel very disempowering. Most importantly, what Mark says is true…“if you can breathe, you can endure!” Thank you Mark, from the bottom of my heart. ❤️ 🙏

[@dragonortiz8741]

Man you have a very big heart, in a world that follows fake things (washboard abs, etc.), you look for the people that need to stand and face real life. Your name will always be remembered.

[@user-bq7jp2tn8u]

You are a good man, Mark Wildman! I’ll bet that your own injury long ago gave you such compassion for others.

[@shantanusapru]

Wow! Amazing!! Love your dedication! Re-shooting everything based on feedback from the intended audience:👌👌👏👏👏

[@steveo8015]

Indian clubs are a great way to initiate movement. I started with 1 & 2 pound and gradually worked my way up in weight. Gradual is the key word! I'm interested to see what clubs Mark ends up recommending as the best quality, value proposition for beginners or even more experienced. More light club vids would be appreciated by those who take the leap into the world of club swinging.

[@zanehuether6031]

I'm so happy to see this included in TOI, this is the subject matter that brought me to your content. I am more than a little impressed with your honesty in your explanation of the delay in this addition. I personally believe you have added a value to this program that is wholly worth it.

[@a0um]

I'm not overweight but I feel de-conditioned after a few years of high stress and physical inactivity. My desk-bound job doesn't help, of course. I liked the experience with kettlebells and I'll return to them asap. As I watch Indian Clubs exercises I have the feeling that's going to be an effective and fun way to get active again! Two ~1kg clubs are coming next Tuesday then I will start your program! BTW, I find your explanations of how to do exercises effectively and safely very clear and I look forward to learning the exercises.

[@pattysylvanbutterfly433]

This is miraculous timing! I’m going into cycle 3 of TOI & progressing well, but found out this week that I will likely need to have abdominal surgery in the next month or so. I would have to pause TOI training post-op due to weight lifting restrictions. I’m doing TOI to get in best shape possible pre-op, & then I can use the Indian club cycle during post op time. God bless you Mark! Appreciate all you do! Many thanks 🙏

[@annaz9655]

Hey. I am hoping you might be able to help. I am looking for the TOI program and can't seem to find it. I am only interested in the light indian club program. Can you purchase it or is it subscribtion based?

[@spencerbrainard2469]

@@annaz9655 Subscription based. Link is in the description

[@4000Wiggins]

Is this for abdominal hernia? I had that surgery a year ago.

[@bapbap22]

Thank you Mark. You are my fitness saint.

[@sreekanthrs3158]

Wow..what a motivational video...hats off...

[@kenfreeman8888]

I just finished my second month of TOI and I'm loving it. It was wonderful to see this light club program added, and I'm glad to add this rehab work to my routine. Clubs are my favorite exercise tool. Thanks Mark.

[@MarkWildman]

My goal is to get feedback and to keep adding at least 50 more follow along programs

[@maccadaccaboom]

@@MarkWildmanYou’re a legend Mark.

[@TokyoBlue587]

​@@MarkWildmanThat's fantastic news! I just got my Indian clubs today! Also ordered a heavy adjustable club. And that's because I am inspired by your videos!

[@litjellyfish]

I always have been and always will be a stiffy. Still I must say for my shoulders and neck Indian clubs has been the only thing I have been able to have the patience to do on going. I mean it’s so easy and convenient. Equipment is not expensive and take no space. You can do it always everywhere where there is a little wiggle space. And apart from some basic training video / exercise images you don’t really need and program or advanced stuff. Just learn the basics and keep going

[@oldkbellguy5156]

Posted on X. You’re doing a good thing.

[@chasmj3268]

I appreciate the work you do. It helps me, and I'm sure it helps others. Keep on.

[@crayzmarc]

Amen brother! Thank you.

[@jacobcarrick1182]

Top shelf mate!!!!

[@mountainstatebikeworks5578]

Those inexpensive plastic 1 lb. Indian clubs that are smooth on the grip end can be fixed. Sand down the mold marks with 150 or 200 grit sandpaper. Go over the entire smooth part with 000 or 0000 steel wool. Gives a wood-like texture that is "right" whether your hands are dry or sweating.

[@TokyoBlue587]

Even easier, just wrap the handles with grip tape, like they use on hockey sticks, tennis rackets and bike handles

[@MrBee-cp9pt]

❤❤❤

[@MrBee-cp9pt]

@@TokyoBlue587❤❤❤

[@BluegillGreg]

The fitness industry may be failing to help untrained individuals. It's also misinforming many fit individuals, nudging them toward injury through bad form, bad programming, drugs, etc. Caveat emptor!

[@TheToad-n9y]

appreiciate you advice Mr. Wildman ,thank you

[@schoolhse]

This is so brilliant.

[@hinakhodiyara7883]

Thanks for sharing. Appreciate it.

[@gerdsiebern9648]

👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏😉 for me, this is the very best video for humans, to reach functional fitness. If you have shoulderproblems, this is the best video. If you are to lazy to walk, this is the best motivation.💪💪💪💪💪😉

[@luthietin2]

Thanks Mark! I subscribe to the TOI program but I haven't started it yet. I am curious what is the recommended starting place now that there is the indian clubs, club track, kettlebell track, etc. I think I have analysis paralysis trying to figure out where I should start and how to progress with all the different options! The clubs look fun to me and I have the indian clubs, the adex adjustable club, cheap 5/10/15 lb kettlebells, and the classic PowerBlocks adjustable dumbells accessible to me. I walk 1 mile twice a day around my neighborhood currently but I've never done any kind of weight training or sports of any kind. I sit at a desk working from home 8-10 hours a day and I garden. My shoulders are achey and getting up and down off the floor is harder than it should be (I am a 45 lbs overweight 50 yo woman) but I don't have any significant injuries.

[@SilaYoga]

Sometimes the best place to start is with what inspires you. Do any of the programs seem more fun or appeal to you more than the others? With passion for an activity motivation often takes care of itself.

[@alwaysaprendiendo]

Pick just one or two options to start, start small, progress slowly. If you notice you're losing interest, you're overtraining. Be sure to warm up really well, and keep up the walking! I am a 64 yo female and find a good mobility program keeps me feeling younger and more enthusiastic about life than when I skip it.

[@BluegillGreg]

Re-watch this video from about 6:45. IMark describes doing the Indian Club Program for the first few months, then progressing to the light kettlebell program, then the heavy club program. Enjoy!

[@moirajevtic5527]

Brilliant , best thing in the world being fit agree ,and strong you a great teacher slowly but surely it can be done….

[@faberrugby]

Your work and your words are very inspiring.

[@giatonpeonta8071]

"Men can be distinguished from animals by consciousness, by religion or anything else you like. They themselves begin to distinguish themselves from animals as soon as they begin to produce their means of subsistence, a step which is conditioned by their physical organisation" the exact same thing you've been insisting on basically, humans distinguish themselves from animals as soon as they learn to use tools, which is made possible and dictated by the way they are built

[@shantanusapru]

Many, many animals use tools too...

[@giatonpeonta8071]

@@shantanusapru in isolated ways, not in a social scale and surely, at least until now, they do not transmit and accumulate knowledge over generations, leading to the capability of producing their means of subsistence

[@shantanusapru]

@@giatonpeonta8071 Actually, they do...this has been seen/'proven' over the last 10 years or so...

[@giatonpeonta8071]

@@shantanusapru there is some evidence that primates are in the beginning of this process but in no way near the scale and the level of early humans and humanoids, where manufacturing tools serving for the manufacturing of other tools dates back to hundreds of millennia (if i'm not mistaken). the key word here is the scale, the one that allows humans to "produce their means of subsistence"

[@shantanusapru]

@peonta8071 If/Since the keyword is 'scale', then, I agree. Otherwise, it's not just primates who have been shown to use tools. Even birds (crows etc), and even invertebrates (shrimps, octopodes, certain insects etc) have been shown to use tools, and even 'pass down' the info to their offspring... The point is: Tool making & tool use is *not* an 'inherently human' activity.

[@Alan-ct3bo]

thank you

[@Dowdyguy]

Would this be something for underweight individuals? I have difficulty gaining any weight (muscle would be good). Spinal nerves pinched. Shoulders uncooperative. Affects hands, arms. Down to 135 lbs from 165 lbs. after long 'immune reaction' illness. Can't seem to do any pushups/pullups, etc any more. Doc says try more physical therapy.

[@MarkWildman]

Yes. Then eventually move to 2 hand heavy club program

[@thelawfulgeek]

Any news/ETA for when that Intro to Kettlebell and TOI combination/integration is coming? I'm subbed to both programs, but still TOI is my main one and would love the guidance on how to properly integrate them

[@MarkWildman]

Currently, it’s the limits of the system we are publishing on. We are trying to get an improved platform but we keep hitting technical roadblocks.

[@maxpower8052]

👍👍

[@Дмитрийц-ш7э]

Здравствуйте.Что по вашему мнению полезней для здоровья,гиря или булава?

[@project1003]

Is this program suitable for a person with shoulder impingement? Will it help with the impingement itself?

[@chrismellon127]

Only you & your doctor can decide this.😊

[@Logan-ch2pj]

Would it make sense to accommodate this program for someone who needs to stay seated? I realize it would take out almost half of the program where the club swings in front of you

[@MarkWildman]

Yes. It is on the way

[@brendawilliams8434]

@@MarkWildman Mark I signed up for 10 cycles and realized that I am not able to do the standing portion. It is possible to save my cycles until you have the seated version available?

[@akshayde]

Hi mark. I am carrying about 36% body fat and I'd like to bring it down to 15-20%. I have no problem in getting up or standing straight or walking or running (apart from the feet pain and lack of stamina). I do have a lot of issues doing traditional core exercises though and some back pain when doing things like deadlift ing or squats. Where do I start?

[@MarkWildman]

Swings, clean and press, basis of strength

[@brendawilliams8434]

Mark I signed up for 10 cycles and realized that I am not able to do the standing portion. It is possible to save my cycles until you have the seated version available?

[@deepakpandey4357]

When I do shield cast my elbow hurts after few reps. I don't know what to do.

[@user-cp7gh8zj6b]

Is it the same with a lighter weight?

[@deepakpandey4357]

@@user-cp7gh8zj6b yes

[@panagiothsstaurou7569]

Hi Mark recently I full inside mill my 12kg club with left and with right hand equal and my 10kg full outside mill again with each hand the 12 for 8 reps and the 10 for 5 i think the outside for me at least is harder im planing to buying a mace or a hammer can you recommend me a proper weight for them???

[@a.lame.username.]

6kg Mace will be perfect for you. 4kg if you want more footwork oriented work.

[@panagiothsstaurou7569]

@@a.lame.username. little bit light i think 😁

[@BluegillGreg]

Why are you able to do more reps with the 12kg club and fewer reps with the 10kg club?

[@panagiothsstaurou7569]

@@BluegillGreg because with the 10 only i did the outside full mill ,and i think it's harder btw as for the inside full mill i can do 10 reps or more with that weight

[@fishbelly789]

Real men look good with their clothes on👍

[@MR-yp7mu]

You can do the same thing with a hammer.

[@MarkWildman]

Yes. Harbour freight has cheap mallets

[@juttah.4839]

POV of a real physiotherapist: The world cannot be squeezed into a simple, self-made theory: "The most important human activity is throwing patterns." If you want to know how motor learning works, look at how newborns begin to learn motor skills. In children, the throwing starts long afterwards: Rolling, pushing, standing, 4-footedness, crawling, walking and running. Imagine someone who is bedridden: it's almost the same task. The first and most important human physical activity is rolling. This requires core stability and core mobility. Next, you need pushing patterns of the upper extremities and stability of the scapulae. Only then can we talk about a bedridden person being able to sit up independently. Practicing throwing patterns with a patient like this does not help at all with these tasks. When someone finally is sitting, they have to squat to get up. This is usually only possible with aids, so the upper extremity push pattern is needed in addition to the squat. Again, no throwing pattern. The next major hurdle is climbing stairs. Immobile people may be able to walk, but any stairs can be a huge barrier. This has to be addressed. Step-Ups are needed. It is also useless to train throwing patterns with very old people when the biggest threat to their well-being is a fall and the subsequent inability to get up without help. This also requires rolling, pushing, 4-footed stance, and assisted standing. And I haven't even mentioned patients with neurological diseases such as MS, Parkinson's or stroke. Working with these patients is a huge challenge. We are talking about muscle spasticity, tremors and about parts of the body that are not perceived any more. They must train again and again, for the rest of their lives: Getting up, walking, climbing stairs backwards and forwards. Bending and picking up objects. For the upper extremity, it's grasping, holding, fiddling, picking up large and/or heavy objects from shelves or cabinets. Preparing and cooking food, putting food in mouth, brushing teeth... None of these is a practical use for a throwing motion. At a certain point, it's all about delaying deterioration, which can be frustrating for both the patient and the therapist. Throwing patterns will not help these patients in their daily lives. Eccentric muscle training can be very helpful against spasms, classic strength training and cardio are very usefull, too. Your disrespectful way of talking about my profession - especially in light of the fact that you obviously know nothing about real rehabilitation - really bothers me. At the end of the day, you are still only Hollywood fitness trainer with a strong snobby attitute. Very disappointing. Lost a subscriber.

[@MarkWildman]

I would love to Discuss this with you in depth. I’m always open to more info

[@MarkWildman]

I’d love to send you my programs and get your feedback

[@MarkWildman]

I disagree with you on several points and I’d but I agree with you on what you are trying to accomplish. It’s how to accomplish and track those goals. I’d be happy to discuss it point by point

[@MarkWildman]

If you would like to set up a zoom meeting, I’d be more than happy to learn from you

[@juttah.4839]

@@MarkWildman Wouldn't the proper order be to address the content of our curriculum before making a defamatory video about an entire profession? PNF is my personal focus. But PNF is not a secret, you can read about it and learn it. My teacher is Renata Horst in Germany - she is American, though. Google her, maybe you can learn from her online. She gives good examples of real patients and real physical therapy on her website. Motor learning happens in the brain, not in the body. Yes, we need certain muscles, and sometimes strength training should be targeted. But strength training will only help the brain to a limited extent to regain motor patterns, because most of them are innate. Impaired motor patterns of the upper extremities can only be improved with relevant everyday objects. If you want to be able to hang up your laundry again, you have to stand in front of a real washing line to train it. The brain then recalls stored patterns. Just the imagination doesn't do the trick. When it comes to club training after a stroke, it only makes sense if the person has already trained with clubs before the stroke. Otherwise you simply create new patterns in the brain. Our goal is not to create new patterns, but to recall old patterns - unconsciously. This applies to chronic pain, orthopedic damage, and the effects of aging, too. It also applies to all major daily activities: sitting, standing, walking, running, sitting down, going down to the floor and back up. That's why you were often right from a physical therapy standpoint: suitcase deadlifts, squats, lunges, TGU to a certain extent. Trunk rotation as the basis for free everyday movements. These are all extremely important daily activities that most people lose due to age and illness. Training them is brilliant! But you're wrong about the clubs for the upper extremities. Throwing patterns are ancient human motor patterns - but only for a select few: Warriors. Today they are mostly relevant to athletes. Your conclusion is wrong because it involves an inductive fallacy. Throwing patterns are irrelevant to most people today. You can have a good life without ever throwing a ball. But have a shitty life if you are not able the feed yourself. The latter has nothing to do with throwing. That doesn't mean you shouldn't train throwing patterns. It just means that for most people they are not going to improve lost everyday movements. They are on par with for example dumbbell exercises for the rotator cuff for frozen shoulder, to target weakened muscles. Doing them is better than not doing them. However, shoulder mobility must be restored by other means.