Why Pro Athletes Suck at Weight Training

[@StevenCrowder]

This was very, very well presented.

[@jdgiii2407]

Post your training videos Crowder

[@giovannidipierfrancescodim3058]

Am edging

[@robertmanolatos9690]

You're creepy

[@realguy7808]

I am very gay and black and edging with my husband.

[@anapinto8477]

why is the rp channel pinning Steven Crowders comment

[@tyaker1]

Starting to suspect Scott is being held against his will, & they only take his ball gag out when it's time to record. We need video proof that he has bodily autonomy.

[@perfectstranger1152]

Does it matter? Scott knew what he signed up for, and that was to be "the video guy".

[@feudist]

"Get the Gimp..."

[@SuperLio333]

@@perfectstranger1152 Absolutely , he gets what he deserves

[@BeingJermaine]

😂😂😂

[@mtbjason4]

I ran cross country and track at the D1 level and I can say that fatigue from our main practice was the main thing preventing good efforts in the weight room. It's hard running 90+ mi/week, racing every weekend, AND weight train. Weight training was VERY secondary to our main run.

[@gvngbvngiggy]

Yeah thats in every sport you gotta prioritize

[@oglocbaby520]

@@gvngbvngiggy I never competed in track, but wouldn't it make the most sense to prioritize lifting, strength and general conditioning work in the off season and just phasing over to more sport specific stuff as the season starts approaching and during it? Seems pretty common sense to me, the body can only recover from so much work and it can be detrimental to try to train too many different energy systems, modalities, etc.

[@DrSwole12]

Hard to compare cross country to other more explosive sports like sprinting, basketball or football. Vastly different training styles for distance sports

[@bosox1640]

@@oglocbaby520As someone who was also a D1 cross country and track athlete, but also had offers to play baseball. No. You wanna get good at running. You go run. You wanna get good at hitting a baseball go work on your swing. Weight lifting is almost completely useless in distance running. Baseball it helps for sure, helps a lot more to be able to hit a 95mph fastball and then be able to hit a curve.

[@oglocbaby520]

@@bosox1640 I'm not really sure if I fully agree with your statement, there. Virtually all high level athletes are doing some form of strength training at some point in their training year. Athletes that aren't doing this are honestly doing something wrong. Any type of explosive or power based athlete will obviously be doing a lot of lifting, this could be sprinting, American football, Rugby, throwing events, etc. Even in something like wrestling, boxing or MMA you'd find they are doing a lot of this same stuff in addition to a lot of conditioning work. An endurance runner for instance would benefit by incorporating strength work for the lower body in particular. Have them throw in some sled pulls and stuff for their legs and hips that are easy to recover from and tell me that doesn't help them. Stronger legs would help with running up hills for instance. I'm not saying you'd put these guys on a bodybuilding split or some powerlifting routine, but I just cannot see why any serious athlete would not incorporate lifting/strength work.

[@thepanmancoast]

I believe another big issue is the colleges. I have my masters in exercise science and it's shocking what some of my professors taught or didn't even know. One of the most shocking examples was a senior level class covering fitness assessment, the professor pulled me aside to ask how much a barbell weighs. The same program had another senior level class covering exercise prescription and never one mentioned periodization. It was a smaller school over 10k student population, but the exercise science major was the biggest major in the school.

[@nicholash3849]

the fact that a professor doesnt know a barbell weight which is universalized is very bad

[@ayahuascadog2346]

And then people wonder why no one wants to "trust the science" or "trust the experts" anymore.

[@ULTRAOutdoorsman]

@@ayahuascadog2346Well that's because rich people are fat as shit, not because conspiracy theorists are sitting around fact checking what small-college PE professors are saying in lectures

[@leo9982]

@@ayahuascadog2346gotta be your own expert by finding good sources and facts and keeping your mind open

[@VeteranVandal]

​@@ayahuascadog2346but that's throwing the baby away with the bathwater.

[@bubonicp1eb836]

Hi Dr.Mike, I am one of your few female audience members. Can you please make a video explaining how women can train optimally in reference to their menstrual cycles. I see a lot of conflicting advice on whether I should adapt my training according to my cycle or just power through it. I am also curious to know just HOW much does a woman's cycle actually effect their performance? I trust your videos because they are rooted in research! I know that your demographic is mostly young men, so it would be asking a lot.

[@chonzen1764]

Train and supplement and those wont even be a thing anymore.

[@robmarsh918]

@@chonzen1764🤦🏾‍♂️

[@yoeyyoey8937]

Figure out what days you are stronger and can recover better, and then your more intense training sessions around that. On days where you are weaker, etc then you can plan on doing more volume or frequency to make up for lack of intensity or recovery, respectively

[@springy9959]

Would love this too! Menstruation really knocks me back! Feel so weak during that time of drop and surge in hormones 😊

[@aethylwulfeiii6502]

One upside though up menstration is that it’s a sure for way to tell if you went too hard. Miss it and you went too hard or your pregnant. . (Men have a similar thing, missing the tall morning snake)

[@kayglifts]

man if my college had lectures like these

[@LUKA_911]

Well do i have a certain college for you.... Rhymes with Beeman

[@pricklycats]

“Why my students SUCK”

[@apxsports5904]

He's working on the RP college.

[@DylanPorto45]

almost like he professes at a college

[@leftylattin]

Even better, its here for free on youtube where you can watch it whenever suits you.

[@q_branch_]

Almost 20 years ago…I used to compete in powerlifting back in HS - I was ok, a state finalist. I had a good coach - a CSCS with relevant degrees. But looking back, periodization and deloads weren’t a part of the program. I can only imagine how much better I could have been if this information was available to me.

[@jmass4207]

Your competitors probably could have used better information too 🤷‍♂️

[@i.c.wiener2750]

@@jmass4207 your mom

[@kylespecter6580]

It’s crazy you had no deloads. I’m no powerlifter and even I need one every few weeks

[@RaspiRoope]

​​@@jmass4207even playing field

[@christawatson1688]

You should do a review of Olympic or ultra endurance swimmer strength workouts. In the last 15 years, the attitude has changed drastically from swimming more miles (swimming is pretty famous for overtraining) to focusing on building strength in the gym, and it's having a hugely positive impact. The Olympics is going to be wild this year with all the records that are about to be broken.

[@i.c.wiener2750]

Cardio detected, opinion rejected.

[@Nghilifa]

You're AGAINST training and gaining knowledge of the most important muscle in your body? Man, you couldn't have looked dumber even if you tried.@@i.c.wiener2750

[@aethylwulfeiii6502]

No one considers it “doing cardio” ever.

[@rogacz25]

Lowest number of records set in these Olympics since 1996. Probably too small a sample size to detect the effect of weight training. Genetics, nutrition, technique, training schedule, and competitive hunger add too much noise to that particular signal.

[@Zakaria-px2pc]

​@@rogacz25 that's mostly because of how hard it is becoming to actually break records for humans. However, we've seen the likes of Marchand, McIntosh, ledeckey and some other swimmers break records. So he was kinda right.

[@MozDivision]

27:47 Man, I'd love to see a dunking contest between Dr Mike and Jeff Nippard

[@FitLabb]

I trained several NBA players over the years with a somewhat bodybuilding style program with a strength building focus, and their performance on the court increased dramatically as a result. The exercise selection and their effort level and consistency were all great though, which definitely played a big role in their success as well. 💪

[@argonkrux9873]

I see you everywhere in any fitness video

[@cyclesdesu]

Can you kinda summarize the program please

[@user-xedwsg]

which nba players? when did you start training them?

[@KaizenWithRen]

Reminds me of a reverse version of this: David Goggins training Tony Ferguson (UFC fighter) Conditioning and endurance has never been Tony's problem.

[@Mrbrizzian]

The way you pluralize your pronunciation of hypotheses is very rewarding to my tism

[@Cmarshec8]

I did track at the largest university in the country. I can tell you the reason we didn’t get the most out of our lifts was because of the fatigue factor damaging our ability to practice our event at 100%. Tough balancing act when your coach is breathing down your neck to perform in a “what have you done for me lately” culture

[@its.eddiep]

Hot take, Mike! And…you are spot on. As a former D1 athlete, can confirm the accuracy of what you had to say in this video for the most part. Bravo sir 👏🏼

[@Peppy869]

I played D1 at 155 pounds. SEC. I also won state weightlifting meet twice (bench press, 40 yard dash, vertical, Brad jump, squat) and came in third national at the Arnold Schwarzenegger classic (clean and jerk / snatch) We did NOT train like what I see from pro athlete. We trained hard AF and I legit had times in which I cried at 5 AM… During the first three years, we had a HIGH level strength coach who eventually became a head NFL strength and conditioning coach. He knew his stuff. Every day sucked. And in improved significantly During my senior year, we got a new coach. Workouts were not the same. He was a “yes man”. And let people do what they wanted. He wasn’t hard nose enough. You could see it on the field as well. Our guys were just smaller and slower. . He was fired two years later. I think that becoming a pro changes things. Some workouts are not mandatory like they are in college. It’s all up to you. Most people don’t want to train. Same as athletes. We just have to in order to get an advantage. But once you become a pro, have money, and get a personal trainer, that trainer can become a “yes man”.

[@rm06c]

You can tell Dr Mike and the RP Crew are doing NNN with how much content they're pushing out on an almost daily basis. Be strong, we're gonna make it! Only 16 more days to go!

[@alamandrax]

Dr Mike’s staring at his Jason Mamoa and Pewdiepie posters longingly. “Soon”

[@misterbeach8826]

I have player experience with the NCAA and NBA. I can tell that basketball is not so much about strength but agility, mobility, and certain movements, and this is how LeBron trains. Jump rope, push-ups, and a lot of band exercises. This sort of thing. 80 % of the training is basketball-specific, such as jump shots, dribbling, free throws, left shoulder, 3-point, up & under, etc. It usually ends with mobility. We once met a Chinese Olympic weightlifter who was able to jump higher than us because jumping is apparently part of the Chinese weightlifting exercises, which honestly shocked me... So, yeah. There is room for improvement, for sure. It is also true that fatigue and injury risks are not just bullet points. It's a huge topic, not just in basketball.

[@cynd3930]

Olympic weightlifting cleans and snatches require crazy explosive power so it makes sense that some of them have impressive vert

[@2o3ief]

Yeah, people would also be surprised how many athletes hate weight training and enjoy playing sports if you can believe it or not 😂

[@-TK-]

It all circles back to periodization. There's a time and place for sport specific exercises and there's also a time and place for high intensity strength training.

[@Dill_doh]

Facts basketball strength is pretty low on the totem pole when it comes to performance attributes

[@AlphaLionTrillionaire]

That's why it's so hard to find people who are competent at S&C for fighting sports. You already have a couple bjj vids, but I think people would really appreciate it if also you do a couple of vids on strength and hypertrophy for MMA.

[@lededer77]

The YMH/Dr. Mike crossover crowd loves that you have a Lenovo. Looking forward to the Garth references.

[@kasey.chevalierfit]

I have been binging your videos all day while on my reverse diet, learning so much value that I’m applying to my clients and seeing way better results.

[@clintlitoris3629]

Before he passed, John Meadows was training Lane Johnson and some of the Eagles offensive linemen in the off-season. That was so good to see.

[@fps079]

The first person I have ever heard who wants his own dirigible. Dr. Mike you are priceless...thank you for these.

[@jamesj9744]

Growing up in the 1990s in a tiny town, we did pretty good weight training for off-season football, which is over half the year. We were doing trap bar deadlifts, pullups, barbell presses, incline presses, bench, squats, etc. Full range of motions. Progressive overloads. Each kid's max lifts were posted on the wall for all to see. T

[@TunnelvisionC]

Would love to see more videos about periodization and integration of resistance training for athletes in non-lifting sports

[@benink5690]

This. Because I dont trust others 😆 Mike's not gonna do it or care though

[@spohg2887]

This was great, especially the point about fatigue. One thing my coach/physio said before assigning my program was that it can’t be so difficult that I can’t train too hard, but he made sure to test my abilities, figure out where my failure was and tell me to go 2-3 reps away from that.

[@patrickcooney1725]

It's interesting that in the US, the pro athlete is in charge of their own strength and conditioning training. In Australia, the team employs coaches and outside of a couple of months in the offseason, players are essentially required to do the club's plan, which usually modulates load in the group as a whole, as well as each individual.

[@yatzyac]

That was a weird part of the video. Teams have sizable and well paid physical training staffs. It really just is someone like Lebron, who has a ton of money, that is going to have his own chef, trainer, and who knows what else.

[@3drees707]

I wish I knew about coach Mike when I was still hoopin in college and tryna go pro. This guy just breaks it down so simply even dummies can understand

[@datahigh]

Like linebacker, needs explosive power, short distance speed, strong pushing and shoving abilities.... quarterback, decent conditioning, arm strength to throw the ball a lot, like why do they need to put on more muscle? they don't...

[@gridiron8870]

They need to have Muscle to handle Contact and have the Durability but they dont need to Have ton of muscle and be huge Some quarterbacks choose to want to get more bulky and stronger

[@RobHawthorn]

It's because the athlete's main focus is the sport itself. If they have DOMS for 4 days and it affects their sport focused sessions, that to them is a backwards step. Especially true for cycling. If a cyclist can't hit the required power numbers for subsequent workouts all because they have DOMS, they're naturally going to shy away from leg day....As I'm writing this, I just heard 'fatigue conservation'

[@RichFernandez908]

Absolutely. Mike just believes that the net benefit of the athlete workouts he’s reviewed on his channel could be a lot better for their specific sport without added fatigue.

[@robertt9342]

There is such thing as off season training. The maintenance training as well as specific sport training take over during the season.

[@RobHawthorn]

There are also sports that are generally very good at strength training e.g. Rugby Union, check out 'Tuilagi brothers'. But all modern day Pro rugby players have a high level of strength training (even players from a past era e.g. Andrew Sheridan had olympic level powerlifting numbers). Rugby League was ahead of Rugby Union mainly because they went professional first. Obviously NFL is another example.

[@chucks222]

Athletes are often focused on speed and agility as much as strength. I'm sure there is room for improvement with athlete's weight training, but seems like big assumption here that the workouts for hypertrophy and power lifting will improve (or at least don't hurt) the speed and agility which are so critical for success. My acedotal experience is that big weight training rarely correlates to athletic huge improvement in basketball, soccer, etc.

[@morpheus2615]

13:37 100% my gf was big runner and wanted to try weight lifting. She did go 4 times a week (upper/lower split) and she told me that running after a leg day is really hard and lifting after a running day is also hard. Generally she was always down, then she looked into periodization and now she does 2 Times full body and 2 running days. With each 1 day of. Seriously lifting weights and then training a cardio heavy sport is not easy

[@montgomeryharr30]

Hi, there's aren't many videos but I think a reaction to Mohamed Salah's training would be brilliant. He's in excellent shape and shows no signs of slowing against contemporaries of a similar age. He's world class

[@SubHertz]

11:20 dont forget the third use of the computer, to watch videos that doesnt align with one of the commandments.

[@AnthonyMcqueen1987]

Love hearing Dr Mike in the background as I work at home soothing and very informative.

[@MrDjhealth]

Speaking of the 1930s ,it would be cool if Doc Mike would critique some of the old vidoes of famous lifters like Paul Anderson one arm press, Sandow, Grimek, and others

[@dawiedarling]

OH!!!! Yes! Please!!! I had the real pleasure of working at Loprinzi's Gym in Portland, Oregon. The dazzling Grandpas - regular guys who just kept lifting ( even with old-fashioned ideas ) - were/are my inspiration!

[@awmlawoffice]

Pick the right parents and you can succeed despite shitty or even no training. See: Bo Jackson.

[@JayPringleThis]

Love your videos Mister RP. I can't always watch the videos, but I love putting them on and listening to that smooth and sultry voice, and learning some stuff too. I am also totally straight by the way.

[@danieldarling6092]

I dont know why anyone would look at Tom Brady as a peak athletic specimen, has no one ever seen the guy run? Looks like a baby deer right after it was born lmao Dude doesn't get paid to be strong, fast, or agile. He gets paid to be a genius play maker, top tier leader, and one of the greatest clutch QBs to ever play. All Tom Brady has to do is trust the guys who DO get paid to be strong and fast to protect his ass while he throws the ball like a phenom. Anyone who thinks Tom Brady is a good person to watch in the weight room is either a beginner (no shame) or an idiot.

[@TacticalReview]

In addition to making injury LESS likely, proper strength training also tends to lessen injuries if they occur AND shorten rehab time. I had a high school sprinter tear an ACL during basketball season (sometime mid Jan, IIRC). His prognosis was maybe start doing warm-ups with the track team around sectional time. He was actually able to rehab quickly enough that he ran in 2 meets that season (he did, wisely I think, defer from running any hurdles, LOL), and then had complete soccer and XC seasons in the fall. His recovery speed was credited entirely, by his ortho team, to his strength training prior to injury

[@twistedstrength.]

For the top level ones that look awkward in the gym, it could also be that they are used to being efficient with their physicality. When you get up out of a chair, do you use only your legs to do so for maximal quad activation, or do you also use your hands to assist? The same concept could apply for how they train. Lebron will not do a proper, full range squat before jumping during a game, nor will he do a full range calf raise. He is doing what works in the court and what works is what's efficient. A general basis behind weight training is often to do what you are training for, but making it harder. You are purposely being inefficient with your movement in order to condition your body to handle more. Some of these super athletes may have a difficult time not being really efficient with their movement.

[@schultemeister6975]

Interesting

[@drewpy14]

this seems suspiciously on the verge of pseudoscience and exactly what dr mike was going against in this video.

[@Cogency]

I WAS EXPECTING A GAMING CHAIR.

[@Yupppi]

Can we define what is "hard" and "not hard" training in this context? Like I assume we don't expect the same intensity from middle of the season/towards playoffs in something like NFL or whatever, than we expect from off-season training or bodybuilder in their most intense phase. So what's our comparison line and context, what is the standard we expect? Are we talking about better effort but lighter training during that competing season's tight spot and that's what we call hard training, giving good effort depending on the context?

[@gibsonmw2]

Dang! Nippard v. Israetel! Short kings unite! You boys should have a dunk contest!

[@ryanmihaiu7327]

8:06 is perhaps the moment I agree with Dr Mike the most

[@testitestmann8819]

I just take away that I might be a pro athlete (cause I suck at weight training)

[@SuperhumanTroy]

Make a video breaking down how Michael Jordan trained with Tim Grover and your thoughts

[@EnzosBenzo]

Good video Doc. I also wanted to suggest that there are certain athletes that play positions e.g. corner/receivers in football where getting absolutely bodybuilder type jacked won’t necessarily make them better at their position. I say this in the case where a lot of these guys are genetic freaks that are the prototypical, build muscle by looking at weights. As someone who grew up as an elite sprinter, lifting to get huge traps and capped delts actually made me slower. I agree in most scenarios that proper muscle building is a net positive for performance

[@SPJD1984]

Then they should train for strength, as opposed to hypertrophy, but everything he's saying still applies.

[@christopherspohn8071]

Yes build for strength, and the best reciever will be imitated in body shape and speed. So, it would be dependant on type corner or reciever, some are vertical threat or are they speed on the angel threat.

[@yoeyyoey8937]

No one said to make them bodybuild but strength training is a must

[@EnzosBenzo]

I'm commenting in a bodybuilding channel. Also building strength = building muscle :)@@yoeyyoey8937

[@evec2022]

Oh I get this 100% even though I"m absolutely not a pro athlete or anything close. But I only got really strong in the gym when I quite competing. While I was competing, I was terrified of getting injured to the point where my strength coach, who was hired by an athletic director, told me that I was very slow at gaining strength. Turns out that's not true... But I only found out when I quit competing!

[@HeavenlyFloodofRegen]

I’d love to see videos about how an athlete can periodize hypertrophic weight training in synergy with their endurance/cardio training, dynamic strength output training, and specific sport skills practice. For example, I’m training for golf, a sport that at high levels of play needs a hybrid of skill, endurance, flexibility, speed, and power. I can already reach swing speeds of 120mph+ and launch the ball at 180mph, but I want to be able both maintain stamina all day/weekend as well as increase my maximum output. Bryson Dechambeau famously gained massive distance by increasing his mass in combination with overspeed training, but others, like Matt Fitzpatrick, have gained distance by overspeed training alone. Obviously training your body and mind to generate more power/speed in a particular movement is critical, but when your body has more muscle it will have higher capabilities of output that could be reached. So it’s better to have more muscle mass if you have muscles trained for a specific thing. What are the best practices/principles to synergize hypertrophy training with the other aspects of sport training? What does a week, month, or mesocycle program look like, particularly in offseason training, when an athlete needs to balance and manage stamina fatigue and recovery for hypertrophy, endurance, and speed (sport specific dynamic output) trainings? Obviously this will limit the total optimization of each individual aspect, like them sweet gainz or marathon winning endurance. But if the purpose is train for a sport activity that utilizes all these aspects in tandem, then the goal is to optimize the synergistic outcome of each at the same time. So the goal is to optimize the harmony of each aspect. What does training that harmony at or near optimum look like?

[@limitisillusion7]

Golf and endurance, lol.

[@extremea7974]

@@limitisillusion7nah fr i read that im like golf? Endurance? Enduring that walk to the ball

[@User-54631]

Any sport that a world champ came be 50+ in age, I question the athleticism.

[@HeavenlyFloodofRegen]

@@User-54631 Until Phil accomplished something incredible, the oldest major winner in golf was basically the same age as the oldest players to win the championship in the MLB, NFL, NBA, and NHL. Does Tom Brady make you question the athleticism of football? Once Satchel Paige was allowed in MLB he continued to pitch in the league until he was turning 60. Is baseball somehow therefore no longer athletic? My comment doesn’t have to be about golf. It can be any sport that needs multiple aspects of training. As compared to training for a marathon where all that matters is your ability to run long and fast or weightlifting where all that matters is the ability to push more weight, other sports -like basketball and football as exampled in the video - take a hybrid of outputs that help support a particular skill. Perhaps I should have just originally said basketball since Lebron is such a focus in this video. I assume nobody questions the athleticism of basketball. What does it look like to synergize the skill and conditioning training of a sport like basketball with weightlifting training? How does one optimally incorporate these elements into the totality of training? If basketball isn’t athletic enough then how about baseball, soccer, or football? Lacrosse, hockey, rugby, MMA, I don’t care. At some point there’s a sport people can agree needs a combination of endurance, strength, and skill. What are the best practices for training these elements concurrently?

[@frigidszn7510]

beating the morning snake or playing fn reqs more athleticsm then golf how dare u compare golf to real mans sports ur father would be ashamed@@HeavenlyFloodofRegen

[@Bork19]

The most frustrating kids I dealt with when coaching high school football was the skill players that also played basketball, “I don’t want to bulk up, get slower and mess up my jumper”. It’s very simple; you will get bigger, stronger, faster, quicker, more explosive, agile, etc. Will your jumper get screwed up? Only if you are lazy and don’t shoot! If you trained your jumper you will just get better range! But based on your lifting habits I assume that you don’t actually trainer your jump shot so it probably will get worse.

[@Viking_Raven]

Most coaches of celebrities snd athletes got to get they're at through nepotism, not qualifications.

[@santiagodelgado9101]

The second I saw “ y u no train Better?” I knew this video was gonna be a gold mine of information there was no time to waste.

[@aar0ncw]

Have to say this since he mentioned it. Prehab is NOT to prevent injury, it's to reduce rehab time following a medical procedure. So somebody with an existing issue strengthing/conditioning, under supervision, before a procedure. Yes, I am a physical therapist.

[@sniperyuout187]

Dr. Mike, you’re genuinely a person I look up to. Your intelligence and charisma shines through these videos and I can’t believe we get this info for free. Please never stop uploading videos. I’d wanna hear you just shit talk on a wide range of random topics too because I enjoy your takes that much. Thanks for changing my outlook on training and life in general. You’re helping a young dude become a better man fr ❤

[@DarthSpock9940]

Jalen Hurts (QB) squats 600lbs. So like you mentioned it is only some that don’t know what they’re doing

[@julianho3134]

I like it when tom hardy throws the ball

[@rafaelivancic580]

I would love it if he would do a review on throwers from track and field

[@robpalwrites]

Yes! I'd love to a bball comp between Mike and Jeff Nippard. The thought of it made me burst out laughing hard 😂🤣😂

[@May-qb3vx]

My school’s PT gave me personal training on the side of my volleyball team training. He basically was spending the time doing damage control because my coaches had no clue that what they were having us do was actually putting us at risk of injury

[@kennysoul8454]

Another excellent video thank you Dr. Mike and the whole RP team 🙏🏽

[@MercuryFN40]

do a video on James Harrison's the football player workouts !!

[@strongmansam289]

The biggest issue I think is famous coaches who have the “secret” - and once you get one good guy, you get more. To get the good guys you have to have a point of difference. If your point of difference is just squats, cleans, hinge, press, pull you don’t sell many programs. It’s boring, and it can’t be that easy can it? They’ve got the money, so why not pay for exclusive training that NOBODY else knows about.

[@fistpunchcrusher2472]

i think nolan ryan is a great example of using weights as a preventatory maintence sort of process.

[@LadiJ]

that 1920's voice has me in tears. Another great video by Dr Mike.

[@berkertugrul9055]

I have a friend he was a pro soccer player. he was always lifting small weights like doing leg presses with 1 plate on each side because his coach told him not to lift heavy cuz he would get injured. His teammate kicked him in the knee and he broke his patella in half during soccer training. Now he sells air conditioners. Coaches are the worst fearmongers... People also dont understand that you don't need to lift like a powerlifter or a strongman to get decent hypertrophy and strength gains. Just lift decent weights with good technique on the lifts that would carry over to your spesific sport. Really not that scary...

[@robertt9342]

So if he put more plates on, his patella wouldn’t have broke in half? Alternatively, if he listened to the coach, he could have used the time to become more educated so when his career was cut short he’d have more to fall back on. These are mainly jokes. But seriously, People also don’t need to have hypertrophy as a goal, that way it doesn’t negatively affect their performance getting used to the new body proportions.

[@berkertugrul9055]

@@robertt9342 I was trying to say that generally athletes get injured during their sport spesific training or in competetions. As for hypertrophy, depending on the sport or the role you are playing you want to have more muscle not for just functional strenght but also for presence in the field. You dont want to get pushed around and bullied in the field. I'm not talking about gaining 20lbs of muscle but more like losing some fat and adding some muscle while having a similar bodyweight. If the athlete is already at low fat% i dont see any reason why gaining 10lbs of muscle would be bad. In the end your body proportions mostly decided by what you eat. You wont get huge by mistake just with added weight training.

[@gur262]

I did kickboxing for a while. Not in a serious manner , for fun. Not looking to compete. Soccer is ridiculous in comparison. So many injuries, you hear more and more gruesome injury stories from soccer than from literal combat sports😂

[@lilguillotine]

I noticed you said there’s no prehab and also that weight training prevents injury. That seems contradictory.

[@fischi9129]

I think a big thing tho is, most sports don't really require weight training, it requires more cardio and sport specific skills. Let's say soccer for instance, pure strength isn't that important, basketball doesn't require a ton of strength. Weightlifting is a high risk high reward for strength/estetics because even if we all agree it's not great, we all ego lift for the soul :) (=more risk for injury). The truth is that a lot of sports and life doesn't really require strength, stamina and technique is way more relevant for most sports

[@exclamaforte]

Rate of force development (explosiveness) would improve performance in all those sports and can be trained in the weight room.

[@yumry2999]

many sports doesn’t require pure strength doesn’t mean strength isn’t important. Many world class soccer players doing strength training and at least for strikers , when you shoot from a distance that requires so much strength

[@fischi9129]

@@yumry2999 that doesn't really require crazy amount of strength, for most sports, the strength you gain by just playing the sport is good enaugh. Ofc strength training helps, but it's just not as important as actually learning the sport in itself, and in most sports, the stamina.

[@fischi9129]

@@exclamaforte never put in question, it can be, it doesn't need to be. Also, for most exercises you have alternative that are easily good enaugh, for the upper body, climbing is good enaugh for every sport tbh as a calisthenics exercise, for legs actually playing a game is leg training, rapid changes of movement are actually quite heavy on your legs and could be considered calisthenics. Like I said, you can for sure go for the weights, not a question, but most people prefere more fun alternatives (e.g. some activity)

[@stardestroyer19]

​@@fischi9129 Good enough is not gonna cut it whenever you're an elite. You need to be stronger and faster than your competitionm

[@Ben-zr4ho]

I dont know about the hypertrophy value of Tom Bradys wacky training and all that band stretching but the guy was able to play FOOTBALL into his 40s. Quite successfully. And after his ACL (I think) tear he started training with that guy and never got hurt again.

[@johncecilia4517]

Cool channel Would be great to see some videos on the different eras of body building and how they transitioned. Like bronze to silver the bench press etc

[@domepiece11]

Yes, cover the physique evolution- bronze, silver, gold. Or big names in lifting from each era, like Paul Anderson, etc.

[@zakarybowles2015]

Not Pro but made it to the collegiate level for basketball in Canada. I found is teammates were just too worn down and didn’t want to risk anything. We would practice 4 times a week and then 2 games one Thursday and then Saturday. They are just so gassed and for basketball they didn’t want to risk hurting anything.

[@_Mailman]

Basketball players strength training is an off season activity. In season is maintenance because….you go lift hard, you play poorly due to soreness, fatigue and lack of flexibility….you play bad in practice in games…you get benched, traded, or don’t get signed

[@vangelifestyle7315]

eric bugenhagen

[@robbentodd6824]

My nephew plays basketball for a medium sized college and he’s lean and strong as hell. He eats right, puts in the work and ain’t afraid of challenges.

[@tyaker1]

Tom Hardy: best at the sport of mumbling and having an intimidating on screen presence.

[@coolguyinc.1555]

Lol he really does mumble a lot

[@corvinking4996]

I know specifically for track, partial reps in the top portion of a squat or deadlift has been connected to higher ground forces and top speed

[@snoopyflick9519]

What are your thoughts on too much upper body work fucking up athletes who are high skill with their hands? I've heard of some like hockey players and stuff who dont want to mess with that getting super thick and stiff wrist from like heavy bench etc

[@schultemeister6975]

Sounds like bs, if you train properly you should have better coordination unless you start bulking 100 pounds and taking roids

[@DanDanDaaaaaan]

This video seems to have left me with a bit of a problem.. I love the channel and it means that I have become extremely good at completly screwing myself up at every gym session I have. As a result, I have seen huge increases in my size and strength (despite being 43 and natural). But my main sport is climbing, which I like to do at least twice a week (Tuesdays and Saturdays minimum) all year round. So now that I am sore for 4 days after every gym session, how do I set my training up so that I can be both a climbing god and jacked AF?? Most of my gym sessions try to be antagonistic training to the climbing (which works a lot of biceps and upper back) and I don't want gigantic legs because they are fucking heavy and difficult to pull up a cliff. Answers in a 'how to fit gym training in around other sports' video please :)

[@gur262]

Doesn't he say? Like. Minimum effective volume I guess. Perhaps one reps in Reserve Session one other session. Do pull those legs up there. Don't be just a climber.

[@DanDanDaaaaaan]

I guess I’m not very good at holding back now. I want to see the gains, but still want to climb hard within a day or two

[@dimitri9435]

Dr Mike has a video on balancing Jiu-Jitsu and weight training that is applicable to climbing. Should help you like it did me. kzbin.info/www/bejne/nGm5mZxtiNp5m5o

[@pieflies]

Being a climbing god and jacked AF are mutually exclusive if your at the far end of the spectrum of either of them. Bulk and body weight negatively affect climbing. You have to make trade offs on one or the other. So you might have to dial back on the weights to improve your climbing or vice versa, depending on what you want to prioritise. There’s no magic solution to be able to do both at the maximum at the same time.

[@PierceRandall-hf7vf]

This sounds like an auto-regulation issue. If you don't feel recovered by the next time you need to work out (either resistance training or climbing), then drop a set in that exercise next time. Ultimately, if you're having recovery issues, there's going to be a trade-off between training for hypertrophy and training for climbing.

[@alecrechtiene558]

About your comment on college: there has really been a push for better access to healthy foods because of its effect on academic performance.

[@conradgonzales1185]

NFL strength coach once said objective of weight training is to keep athletes maintaining their performance and staying injury free.

[@m14hh5]

The fatigue idea was my argument in comment sessions of some of your videos and I think it’s a very valid reason. I think very easy sessions can help with recovery as well. Train hard in the off season and maybe early season depending on priorities. Squeeze in some strength and power stuff in season when you can for maintenance. And yes some of the stuff a few of them do is silly. Also notice football plays 1x/week.

[@TrevorHamberger]

most of the best of the best athletes would all lift after games. Jarg would go insanely hard in workouts after games. Same for Zdeno Chara famously went insanely hard after games. Kobe too. There's tons of them.

[@m14hh5]

@@TrevorHamberger For sure. To me 1, maybe 2 high intensity workouts depending on the schedule, makes the most sense. Even just once a week can do a lot to maintain or even gain strength.

[@ianemory5800]

I also think you're going to see a lot of variance pending upon sport and position. If I'm a point guard I cam see thinking my time is better spent taking an additional 1000 3pt shots to get better at that than losing weights. Whereas if I was a center holding up to the strength of other guys pushing and against me is far more practical. If I'm a quarterback and I can either work on strengthening my body so I'm less likely to get hurt or work on my footwork and processing so I don't get hit in the first place is a pretty fine line.

[@dereksmith5934]

Over a full period, different sports and positions within sports will look different. Thats called specificity. But the weight training/strength training element of all programmes, should look the same (relatively), that is to say whatever the optimum way to improve strength is.

[@whiteflame24]

@@dereksmith5934 That's not true though, Read the book transfer of training by Anatoliy Bondarcuk who was an olympic champion hammer thrower and one of the greatest soviet olympic strength coaches of all time. His book shows very clear examples of sports specific movements being much more effective then just general weight lifting practice for all sports. He designed Alexander Karelins strength and conditioning routine and Alexander credited the way he trained in that way to being the reason he was so successful in Greco Roman wrestling and you can see he is doing hyper specific resistance movements that match the ranges of motion in his sport and very little general strength movements.

[@jmass4207]

I think most sports positions are variable enough that high athleticism (which results from weight training) will count for a lot. But you’re going to want someone who really knows what tf they’re doing helping to balance skill work, improving athleticism, and overall game practice, not just for your position but you in particular.

[@dsbeats5657]

I know my friends that are quarterbacks don’t really train shoulders because it actually makes it really hard to throw. If you have really big shoulders that’s why Jalen hurts is actually a anomaly. That most QBs are not gonna have crazy, big shoulders I know for me I was a lineman so I had to get strong I mean I’m constantly pushing people that are like 250 to 300 pounds every play so naturally, it makes you stronger

[@mario8833]

Please I NEED to see Jeff Nippard vs Dr Mike on the playground

[@dx5soundlabs939]

As a lifelong martial artist I did calisthenics for stamina and some strength training but I avoided hypertrophy training because I didn't want any more weight on me than needed as being heavier negatively impacts speed, stamina, and agility. And the training I did for strength was specifically geared to where I needed to be strong. Don't build muscle where you don't need it essentially.

[@RJStockton]

Athletes to one side, I still can't get over Brie Larson's workout.

[@robertt9342]

Marky Mark though

[@RJStockton]

@@robertt9342 Yeah, that one hurt.

[@jdankerdake]

Wilt Chamberlain was a supremely athletic 7'1" man playing against 6'8" guys. 5:43 Thank you.

[@XekTOr89]

This channel is a gold mine

[@jesseschumacher1047]

They suck at weight training bc they’re professional athletes, not professional weightlifters. It’s their job to be a pro on the field, not in the weight room.

[@bulldozer8950]

Wilt chamberlain was a beast. The dude wasn’t only a basketball player, he was elite in several other sports as well. Just insane, and I’m sure part of it was that he was a genetic beast and also trained better than most.

[@karsonmabou2024]

My favorite example is Giannis. Look up ANY video of him weight lifting, majority of it is simple lifting where he's pushes himself

[@HansPeter-qo9hc]

Dr Mike calling Tom Brady „Tom Hardy“ got me 😂

[@L3yL1n3]

This was a real Freudian slip amongst all his jokes 😂😂

[@peteralexis1446]

13:50 when you are fighting for a starting spot, there is no future to train for, its not that they dont know better, its that they choose to perform and keep their spot vs risking getting losing spot/getting cut but maybe being stronger down the line. Those who are serious just save the big weights for the off season. Also in general sports involve specific movements that are not the same movements as weightlifting. Usain bolt doesn't focus on squats to run faster he practices running technique. Always used to look at nfl rbs and think thats all they squat? But keep in mind they run 4.5's and their explosive power is insane they just train different.

[@Ohhelmno]

I feel like some of this is due to the perceived results of weight training and such as well. I think a lot of athletes don’t take it as seriously because they’re trying to stay kind of lean and agile and bulking up too much is a detriment to a lot of their success, so there’s probably some fear there that they’ll bulk up too much or become too muscular and lose a lot of the agility like you see for a lot of people who build to look like you do. Now, I’m not suggesting you’re saying they should all look like you, but a lot of the people who take weight training as serious as you’d like them to seem really love it and turn into something different and they don’t stay super lean and lanky and such which helps them especially in sports like basketball and football unless you’re like an offensive or defensive lineman.

[@asacloutier7530]

One quick aside here as a former basketball player: I went hard with the weights after years of playing ball and put on about 15-20 lbs of muscle over a two years and I directly blame that added mass for blowing out my knee. (I trained my legs) Been playing at my slimmed down weight in my late 20's and I have way more bounce and movement than when I was bulked up, never felt better. Larry Bird once famously said to Anthony Mason (look him up) "Look at all those muscles. Yeah all those muscles aren't going to help you tonight, im going to bust you up" and then proceeded to shout "MUSCLES" after every shot. Certain sports and positions dictate a slimmer build and sometimes adding an excess of muscles to your frame could hinder you in your performance.

[@Bdavis2475]

Lots of Olympian power lifters are tiny. If you want to be lean and strong, why wouldn't you power lift? Seems more productive than bosu ball training

[@dereksmith5934]

You can train full ROM with increased efficiency, developing strength, speed, power and joint stability without putting on 15-20lbs of muscle. All of the weight bracketed combat sports disciplines do it well. The best Judo players are elite at strength training without weight gain.

[@carcorr]

Best video related to fitness I've ever seen. This dude thinks critically. 💯

[@Alx-uq4mp]

New lighting. Looks great!

[@erickespinosa8240]

Your computer knowledge analogy made me think you really really should collab with Linus Tech Tips lol that would be awesome

[@Orbitalbomb]

The difference is, they are athletes, you guys only want muscle growth. If I looked like you (no offense) I couldn’t do my sport at all. I’d have no mobility and and no Cv endurance.

[@jaimenavar1409]

What does Cv endurance mean?? (Curious)

[@manasthara4656]

Facts , the stability of machines, to make up for lacking core strength ,aren't present during matches and don't replicate situations in a match

[@clam4511]

@@jaimenavar1409cardiovascular endurance

[@artbygilik]

@@jaimenavar1409cardio vascular?

[@aguy9512]

He's not really saying for them to train like him, more for them to train effectively in ways that will help their sport e.g. cleans and other movements that could help explosivity and stability movements as well

[@outdaboxtv]

Not gonna lie in college great strength training. Shout out to Greg Werner who’s at VA Tech now. Very basic very effective.

[@Roberto-de8xv]

Yeah the clips he's showing are pros with their personal trainers. Top D1 schools have amazing strength programs, if Mike is as good as he thinks he is, he should apply. Oklahoma's football head strength coach makes over a million BASE salary per year.

[@JonathanRollier]

Lol, Pinker, one of the "capitalism is great for humanity" apologists. Maybe look at people that don't manipulate data Mike...

[@enmorot]

Great comment! Spot on!

[@scottgeorge6923]

One of your greatest lectures yet, very insightful

[@rileyraspberries]

19:45 Mike hits us with Reason magazine's greatest hits.

[@gibbsm]

tReason magazine. what a bunch of tripe.