Why Robert Downey Jr. As Doctor Doom Works

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@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
Who would you have liked to play the MCU's Victor Von Doom??
@ncorrieri
@ncorrieri 2 ай бұрын
Hayden C
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
@@ncorrieri Interresting pick
@poykehmusic
@poykehmusic 2 ай бұрын
Somebody else, not RDJ.
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
@@poykehmusic Understandable. Who would you have liked?
@PockeyHuck
@PockeyHuck 2 ай бұрын
Holt McCallany Michael Shannon Alan Tudyk Charlie Hunnam I like the Cillian Murphy option too
@cbob213
@cbob213 2 ай бұрын
Some exec: Get the guy from Oppenheimer for Dr Doom. Feige: I’ll call RDJ right now and lock him in….
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
wrong one lmao
@L337Haxorz
@L337Haxorz Ай бұрын
@@CantinaTalkSWhe was in that movie tho lol
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW Ай бұрын
@@L337Haxorz yes lmao that’s why I’m saying that he got the wrong one. He wanted Cillian but got RDJ haha
@ASBMS2
@ASBMS2 Ай бұрын
​@@CantinaTalkSW Cillian is not perfect as Dr.Doom at all lol
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW Ай бұрын
@@ASBMS2 never said he was perfect.
@TheShockVox
@TheShockVox 2 ай бұрын
I’m not saying it can’t work. I’m saying it’s not nearly as exciting as someone else being Doom
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
perfectly understandable!
@PockeyHuck
@PockeyHuck 2 ай бұрын
It really depends if they go with existing source material of either, "What If? Iron Man: Demon In An Armor" or "Infamous Iron Man".
@RemyLexington
@RemyLexington 2 ай бұрын
I think marvel is understanding that they can go alt universes and switch it up. It gives them flexibility with their output. and movie direction. I don’t think people will care as much about the same actor as long as the movies are good. And who knows, now it makes seeing a different actor as iron man more plausible. And thats exciting to think.
@PockeyHuck
@PockeyHuck 2 ай бұрын
@@RemyLexington that's a good point. And I also really can't see RDJ agreeing to do something just for the payoff. I really feel he's only agreeing to do this because it's a great story to tell.
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
@@PockeyHuck which since they said its going to be fully doom I don't think they'd go for the Iron Man dude theme
@simbriant
@simbriant Ай бұрын
An alternate Tony Stark as Doom? Or even RDJ playing Victor, a totally separate character? This could have been an awesome reveal had they done it in the movies. But no, some exec probably thought it was a better idea to reveal it to everyone outside of the movies. They killed any hype they could have built for the mystery surrounding the Dr. Doom. And they made the MCU look desperate for attention.
@chinclucker
@chinclucker Ай бұрын
The thing is, they are desperate for attention.
@simbriant
@simbriant Ай бұрын
@@chinclucker yea, that's what really makes it stupid/sad. They are thirsty thots. 😆
@bookbookbook1
@bookbookbook1 Ай бұрын
marvel movies became dogshit after age of ultron the fact that you think them being desperate is new is pretty sad lol
@_ktkproduction_
@_ktkproduction_ 27 күн бұрын
@@bookbookbook1 naaah, I got bad when disney bought marvel….
@gateauxq4604
@gateauxq4604 27 күн бұрын
@_ktkproduction_ amen
@kit2770
@kit2770 Ай бұрын
As a casual Marvel fan, I find the RDJ casting to be confusing and odd. This isn't a knock on RDJ, but because of this casting, I'm much less interested in the new Doom character.
@donnybrook22
@donnybrook22 19 күн бұрын
Same here.
@ActionJacksNo1
@ActionJacksNo1 17 күн бұрын
I agree, we all love him and he may do a good job but kinda robs a new take on it....then again the odds of doing it well (Heath) again is difficult! Also the fact that they are obvious about it is somehow worse. Like Chris Evans as jonny was before marvel knew what they were doing so thats sort of forgotten about as it were. Everyones a bit casual about it, or trying to find ways to like it? The only way i see it being ok is if it is Tony Stark in some sort of new version where they combine both and disregard the comics etc. Otherwise if its just because its RDJ, that makes it less special.
@ProfessorGoon8
@ProfessorGoon8 14 күн бұрын
See? This is why I’m not excited. Doom is a great character, and I’m absolutely terrified Disney will fuck it up and put off casual fans like you by giving them the wrong idea.
@kit2770
@kit2770 14 күн бұрын
@@ProfessorGoon8 Yup. It's underwhelming and confusing for me, a casual fan, and it's frustrating for you, a more serious fan. Corporate buyouts and mergers... they screw everything up for everyone.
@zombiegroan3985
@zombiegroan3985 2 ай бұрын
If they picked someone else they could have used that extra money to make a good movie.
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
Who's saying its not going to be a good movie?
@innrchakra
@innrchakra Ай бұрын
@@CantinaTalkSW anybody with an objective bone in they’re body that’s watched any of the marvel content in the last 2-3 years 😂
@chanelfallon5248
@chanelfallon5248 Ай бұрын
I guess they know that the Marvel Universe has been a piece of shit since Disney took over. They must have seen this as an opportunity to get some money back from all of the flops. Downey is a great Actor, people want to see him regardless. I just hope they don't try to make him conform to all of their Woke bullshit. But as he always says "the things you do for your kids ".
@ItsMittensLife
@ItsMittensLife Ай бұрын
Have you seen the movie?
@IMP3TIGO
@IMP3TIGO Ай бұрын
Disney throwing money at projects (e.g. $180M for Acolyte) is a poor predictor of quality though.
@innrchakra
@innrchakra Ай бұрын
I’m genuinely curious as to what has Marvel showed all of you as of recent that would make you believe that they’re creative enough to pull this off? I mean if this flops they’re risking their legacy as a whole now..
@Warbaman
@Warbaman 27 күн бұрын
Deadpool x Wolverine
@jevilTF2
@jevilTF2 Ай бұрын
Most people I think are forgetting the fact that Doom's face has that Darth Vader crisp, and has a mask permanently attached to his face, plus he'll probably be doing a voice and vocal effects and such, so pretty good chance you won't be able to tell it's even RDJ
@kirkdarling4120
@kirkdarling4120 Ай бұрын
If they stick to that, RDJ will be fine...he's got the acting chops to crush it. But please, please, on Stan Lee's tomb, don't make Doctor Doom a multiverse variant of Tony Stark.
@long-lastingchew
@long-lastingchew Ай бұрын
Then why have him in it? They're just overpaying at that point.
@JR-Mystic
@JR-Mystic Ай бұрын
​​@@long-lastingchewtalk about missing the point. Because you want a great ACTOR to do a great job at, you know, ACTING in the role. You actually think his face or his voice is relevant for this???
@chinclucker
@chinclucker Ай бұрын
@@JR-Mystic Considering they took every opportunity in hero shots to show the actors' faces when they didn't need to, they will absolutely show Downey's face. Hell, even the posters for Infinity War and Endgame showed the actors face for no reason.
@ThatOpalGuy
@ThatOpalGuy 23 күн бұрын
@@kirkdarling4120 why not?
@eon001
@eon001 20 күн бұрын
Everyone bending over backwards to rationalise this. I'm sorry, it doesn't work no matter how you slice it. Stark variant would be good enough. No need for this.
@axelburns1453
@axelburns1453 Ай бұрын
WE ALL NEED CILLIAN MURPHY AS DOOM, ISN'T IT OBVIOUS?
@masonsundstad9464
@masonsundstad9464 2 ай бұрын
Mads Mikkelsen would be the perfect pick for the real Doom. He's got that Romanian energy that connects more to the Docs backstory
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
I think he was also criminally underused for Doctor Strange as Kaecilius
@chinclucker
@chinclucker 2 ай бұрын
Romanian and Romani aren't the same thing
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
@@chinclucker lol
@realtalkwiththeking7862
@realtalkwiththeking7862 2 ай бұрын
He’s already in MCU
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
@@realtalkwiththeking7862 so are the other actors/actresses I listed in this video
@gurnardherded3539
@gurnardherded3539 22 күн бұрын
THE REASON I do not AND WILL NOT watch your videos, is because you steal clips from other’s interviews and use them as YOUR shorts, linking them to your unrelated videos, rather than linking to the original interview
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 22 күн бұрын
Well if you knew anything you’d know that you can’t link videos that aren’t ones that are posted. So I cannot put the related video to the full interviews. Now, every video in its description has a link to the full video. I’m not stealing clips. It’s fair use and it’s exposure to the main interview because it peaks and makes you go out and search for it. So if anything I’m helping lol, but you already knew that.
@chanceneck8072
@chanceneck8072 21 күн бұрын
I'm excited. RDJ has become my #1 favorite actor of all time. I know he's gonna nail it!
@alexvaillustrations8689
@alexvaillustrations8689 2 ай бұрын
50/50 on it, just gonna wait till we actually see him as doom, I do feel like everyone is jumping the gun tho. Plus with the mcu making its own changes to things iv just always seen the mcu as its own comic book run instead of an adoption and the changes it makes works most of the time anyway.
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
That's exactly it. We just have to wait and see and luckily we will know in less than a year what his version of Doom will be like. If Chris Evans can do it with Johnny Storm, why cant RDJ do it with Doom?
@tonygorney9556
@tonygorney9556 Ай бұрын
No shutup! We already seen him as Ironman for literally 10 plus years. He is stuck as Ironman just like Johnny Depp is stuck as Jack Sparrow, these kinda guys don't know how to play bad guys smh
@tonygorney9556
@tonygorney9556 Ай бұрын
​@CantinaTalkSW Chris evans was Johnny storm for 2 bad movies, RDJ has been Ironman (the face of the MCU) for 10+ years remember
@SteveMcT
@SteveMcT Ай бұрын
All these simple people who don't understand why this is great. Subscribed
@Kaizu823
@Kaizu823 27 күн бұрын
You have to give credit to Jon Favreau. He was pushing to cast someone that “everyone” was resistant about back in Iron Man. Now, the push back is from the audience who is resistant to him playing Dr Doom (at least partly). If anything imo, Favreau sees something that the normal movie goer doesn’t which is the fascinating part. I’m sure he would be the first to say RDJ isn’t right for Dr Doom.
@LuigiHann
@LuigiHann Ай бұрын
I don't know how much of this will come through in the final film, but I can see how "Victor Von Doom as an evil Tony Stark variant" could have come about as an idea to structurally replace the "He Who Remains/Victor Timely/Kang" storyline set up in the Loki series.
@extremepop324
@extremepop324 2 ай бұрын
There will ALWAYS be someone that makes excuses for what sucks... Always. Never forget that.
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
this is true but unfortunately isn't the case here. I’m not making excuses for it. I’m providing a way it could work.
@skywalkersbutido6375
@skywalkersbutido6375 2 ай бұрын
@@CantinaTalkSWcope
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
@@skywalkersbutido6375🤙🏽
@JR-Mystic
@JR-Mystic Ай бұрын
Just as there will ALWAYS be someone that complains about what's good...no matter how great it objectively is.
@sandrales98
@sandrales98 Ай бұрын
the one thing R.D.J has is charisma... if they get him a script that works with his depiction of the charackter it will be a hit like iron man was in every single movie he appeared in... and i love to have him in the mcu again then i have a reason again to watch the movies... R.D.J. is for me personally the person that carrys the whole MCU therefore ill definetly look into his return to the movies
@SmokeyVoyage86
@SmokeyVoyage86 20 күн бұрын
I don't think people are understanding the potential of a Iron Man vs Doom fight happening at some point in the MCU. It would be Legendary
@JB-ez2jz
@JB-ez2jz Ай бұрын
None of those multiple character examples is even close to RDJ playing such huge roles as Tony and Victor. Not saying it can’t work but that’s not a great argument for it
@Warbaman
@Warbaman 27 күн бұрын
Im hopeful its a red herring to throw EVERYONE off and its gonna be someone way outta left field
@_krook
@_krook 27 күн бұрын
i think Victor Von Doom should've been Vince Vaugn💀💀💀 no but fr
@jarjarjargon
@jarjarjargon 2 ай бұрын
I don't think I ever realized how many actors have played multiple marvel roles, that's wild! I definitely see HOW this could work but I am cautiously optimistic for now.
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
Oh dude there is so many, I just barely scratched the surface with this video. It’s kind of insane how many there are
@donnybrook22
@donnybrook22 19 күн бұрын
Unless Dr Doom is an Iron Man variant, it is terrible to use the same actor in the universe.
@Realms.Creative
@Realms.Creative Күн бұрын
Donnybrook you may be onto something What if . . .you might be right
@Light-nq4rf
@Light-nq4rf 28 күн бұрын
Both are genuine about their relationship, and Robert is really tony stark same personality that's why It feels so good when we watch him feels so natural
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
Chapters: 00:00 - 00:45 - Intro 00:46 - 01:41- Favreau & Feige Interview 01:42- 02:10 - Kevin Feige RDJ Pitch 02:11 - 02:41- Is RDJ an Iron Man Variant? 02:58 - 03:41 - Fantastic Four Appearance 03:42 - 05:09 - Why it woks 05:10 - 05:56 - Outro
@KingLexus
@KingLexus 2 ай бұрын
I mean I’m not mad at him for being him but damn is he really tired of being iron man that bad 😂
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
Lmaooo
@twisterjohnson1007
@twisterjohnson1007 2 ай бұрын
This doom story is pretty cool and he really is Stark as Doom.. somehow Doom figured out a way to switch their consciousness in each other's bodies so Dr. Doom becomes Tony Stark and Tony Stark becomes Dr. Doom like his body or something I can't remember
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
@@twisterjohnson1007 Yea, its kinda confusing but its like that haha
@mitch4904
@mitch4904 2 ай бұрын
Doom is literally an all mask character. RDJ is an all face actor. They can’t do the zoom in on the inside of dooms mask. This will not work because I guarantee they won’t have him masked the entire time.
@n0thum4n
@n0thum4n Ай бұрын
Doom isn’t always masked in the other film versions of the Fantastic 4
@mitch4904
@mitch4904 Ай бұрын
@@n0thum4nyeah and those movies were dogshit. Let’s not measure how good Doom can be on the screen based on the past failures. Let’s use the comics as the reference for how he should be portrayed which is 99% masked. There’s no debating this.
@Ghostinthemachine47
@Ghostinthemachine47 Ай бұрын
Yea I really dont want to watch a maskless doom.
@frankthefrankfrank8138
@frankthefrankfrank8138 25 күн бұрын
You know it is a face, but technically, a mask, you should go watch Tropic Thunder. Figure out which one is RDJ in the first 20 mins😂
@mitch4904
@mitch4904 19 күн бұрын
@@frankthefrankfrank8138 not the same at all, unsure why you’d think that is a comparison. His face is permanently exposed in tropic thunder despite the face paint. There is a legal requirement to have the actors face exposed in the movie a certain % of the films duration. This is why Jon Favreau came up with the idea of Iron Mans inner mask camera shots to offset his always armored costume scenes. Doom won’t have this and they can’t copy this camera shot for the same actor and different character. This will be a travesty.
@deenine
@deenine Ай бұрын
4:30 To fair, most of those are different universes.
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW Ай бұрын
It still applies. Especially with us just getting Evan’s as Johnny in DO&W
@wreckead
@wreckead Ай бұрын
Trying to pep up a dying franchise by bringing back their best actor to play a different character........ NOOOOOO!
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW Ай бұрын
It was far from dying 😂
@Martinibarra1000
@Martinibarra1000 Ай бұрын
Have you not noticed all the Flops lately and all the Woke agendas.? you can at least be transparent and honest.. The MCU is on a steady Down fall since End game. Loki season one was good. But the punisher and Daredevil were so much better.. Basically since Disney took over..
@andrewsb91
@andrewsb91 Ай бұрын
I would have liked to see John Malkovich play Doom. New personality, new acting, new energy.
@y-vna
@y-vna 2 ай бұрын
These comments could be a little less rude, just because you don't believe in something doesn't mean you have to attack others. Keep going! Personally I'm kinda excited, everyone these days always tries to read every new movie as a flop before it even comes out
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
It's a daily thing, unfortunately, but it is what it is lol. I don't let it get to me. Thank you for your comment. You're exactly right, just because you don't like or believe something doesn't mean that others don't. It just simply might not be for you.
@tonygorney9556
@tonygorney9556 Ай бұрын
@@y-vna shutup
@y-vna
@y-vna Ай бұрын
@@tonygorney9556 lmao, why are all your comments so childish? Shut up is two words, not one.
@Turtlpwr
@Turtlpwr Ай бұрын
You sure about that? All I see is “we want the MONIES”
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW Ай бұрын
Because that’s all you want to see.
@ytuser_3122
@ytuser_3122 Ай бұрын
You forgot that John Malkovich is also gonna be in Fantastic 4 First Steps I bet as Puppet Master
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW Ай бұрын
No, I didn’t forget lol. His role is just so under wraps character wise I didn’t want to add in anything that could possibly be false.
@majorrex9779
@majorrex9779 Ай бұрын
My prediction: Fantastic 4 will revolve around the team but throughout the movie they'll mention "Victor" and his "Robot experiments". Towards the end they'll reveal Victor was behind Galactus and when they confront him he'll tell them his name is Doom. They'll fight and win but bearly and thats when they reveal it was a doombot. The end credit could be a spin on the iron man Hammerimg scene with doom building more doombots for the Avengers doomsday. Or it could be him talking to a recasted Kang
@KingACE2020
@KingACE2020 2 ай бұрын
Marvel is desperate
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
Sorry you feel that way
@KingACE2020
@KingACE2020 2 ай бұрын
You don’t have to apologize 😂 it’s not you. I actually like RDJ and agreed with a lot of the video but i wanted Cillian as Doom. Think RDJ is a cash grab
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
@@KingACE2020 I personally don’t think RDJ has that much pull viewership wise. Dr. Dolittle was a prime example of that. I’m just seeing as they don’t want to fuck up again imo.
@KingACE2020
@KingACE2020 2 ай бұрын
@@CantinaTalkSW So if they are choosing RDJ as the option to not fuck up again wouldn’t that mean he has pull?
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
@@KingACE2020 No, that would be that Marvel thinks he is the best option to play VVD. They had to have looked at hundreds of actors for the part. If they chose Downey, they have something insane coming.
@FishtownRec
@FishtownRec Ай бұрын
Everyone’s just going to look at him as evil Tony stark instead of his own thing
@flounder2760
@flounder2760 23 күн бұрын
Guys not every actor has to tick all the biographical boxes when playing a character...not every Dracula needs to be from that part of the world and not every black person in the wakanda movies grew up in the fuckin jungles of Africa. Its called acting.
@mitozmartinez1173
@mitozmartinez1173 27 күн бұрын
Most great actors who aren’t influenced by a paycheck aren’t interested in getting stuck in comic movies bcuz it heavily occupies their career; which is why they’re playing it like this. I hope they don’t fuck up what they’re cooking for RDJ Doom. Cillian Murphy would have been a great potential Doom, but he’s not one of those actors that wants to get stuck.
@ubernaffa
@ubernaffa Ай бұрын
I think I dig it. I'm deffo open to it, and hope that they pull it off. I'm still crossing every last digit for Tom Cruise joining an Superior Iron Man, or any Tony Stark variant.
@FRADAVE02
@FRADAVE02 24 күн бұрын
Say what you will, it still smacks of desperation!
@roguewolf7053
@roguewolf7053 Ай бұрын
While a new actor for that part could be awesome… *EVERYONE* KNOW RDJ *always* goes above & beyond to do the characters he plays CORRECTLY AND has the power to push the envelope if he thinks something in the script or even storyline isnt correct. So all in all I believe we will get the best, truest to comics possible Doom character with RDJ playing the role.
@Turtlpwr
@Turtlpwr Ай бұрын
All we wanted was a good Doom. An actual, fully fledged Victor Von Doom. The same way they did with Thanos. It’s like Joker 2 - no one asked for this.
@canterburytells9770
@canterburytells9770 Ай бұрын
Them getting rid of Jonathon as Kang was a mistake. Nba/nfl players keep their job doing tenfold worse. Kang was the best villain so far imo
@bradenleonhart5205
@bradenleonhart5205 Ай бұрын
I still think Mads Mikkelsen should’ve played Victor Von Doom.
@LordJord001
@LordJord001 28 күн бұрын
I just hope they won't be like "he's an evil iron man who wears a green cloak" just because they kind of need new villians instead of more variants
@jarodmasci3445
@jarodmasci3445 6 күн бұрын
Guys, he NEVER TAKES OFF THE MASK. RDJ will obviously alter his voice. He's a professional actor, you knobs.
@d_k_h_922
@d_k_h_922 Ай бұрын
I think RDJ will be great… as long as they don’t make him fight Spider-Man. That would seriously suck!
@bigman7856
@bigman7856 Ай бұрын
I really just feel like Hollywood(and the big studios in particular) are creatively bankrupt with no idea what to do in order to fix it. Nothing in entertainment excites me anymore. I hope for the best though.
@SYCZ
@SYCZ Ай бұрын
They could always replace, beauty of Marvels Multiverse.
@TheJusDon
@TheJusDon 2 ай бұрын
No one ever wanted this. We as people need to stop accepting any bone thrown.
@GEN47-27
@GEN47-27 28 күн бұрын
He'll need to do a Tropic Thunder to pull this off
@MoldveyDM
@MoldveyDM Ай бұрын
They have yet to capture the true essence of Dr. Doom in any TV show or movie to this date. The only media that has ever captured Dr. Doom outside of the comics are video games. Mostly the Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Every movie Doom has been beyond bad. I hope they can get it right. For me personally Robert Downey was already Ironman. It is going to be hard to separate him from that ironic role, unless they the writers do a bang up job on giving us a real Dr. Doom. And then Downey is going to have to do what he did for Ironman but for Victor Von Doom. It is like trying to capture lighting in a bottle 2 times. I will be impressed if they can pull it off. But I highly doubt it.
@JayJope
@JayJope 2 ай бұрын
RDJ will be in Fantastic 4, but purely in the post credits to set up Doomsday.
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
That’s what I’m thinking as well
@diablozspawn4094
@diablozspawn4094 Ай бұрын
Both movies will bomb but the fantasy four be worse
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW Ай бұрын
That’s amazing, everything you said in your statement is false lol
@realtalkwiththeking7862
@realtalkwiththeking7862 2 ай бұрын
He isn’t gonna look like Tony Stark or RDJ. They are gonna use prosthesis for him.
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
They have to change his look for sure
@PancakeStew
@PancakeStew 28 күн бұрын
Superior Iron Man would have been the better villain choice for him.
@Realms.Creative
@Realms.Creative Күн бұрын
Guys seriously the what if comics are amazing and they are all related to the multiverse No RDJ is going to be playing Victor von Doom guarantee it . . . But . . .
@franciscoarrieta9960
@franciscoarrieta9960 Ай бұрын
I disagree. I don't share the same understanding on repeating actors to different character in the saga. Specially if that actor had the popularity that RDJ as Tony Stark. Can you imagine Chris Hemsworth’s Thor as another character in this saga? if actors like RDJ want to evolve or move away from the strong stamp that these long movie sagas have placed on their careers, stepping outside of the Marvel universe would be a good idea. There’s a wealth of fresh talent out there, and it’s time for new stars to emerge, bringing fresh energy and ideas to these franchises instead of recycling the same actors.
@edringweeko3419
@edringweeko3419 2 ай бұрын
Instead of making new super heroes they just cutting budget
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
Since RDJ is getting paid $100 Million for the 2 movies it’s likely that he’s rather costly to the budget lol
@MG-pv4uq
@MG-pv4uq 18 күн бұрын
I think it's a bad idea...I like Robert and he was and will always be the best Iron Man. But as Dr. Doom? Nahh... Remember how Robert was cast as Dr. Dolittle...and the film did very little for the fans? - From India 🇮🇳 with Love❤
@raremage
@raremage 26 күн бұрын
Why on earth would we think some random (if Romani) actor when they could score RDJ, who they know will give everything to make it successful? I’m more concerned with the casting of the Fantastic Four than RDJ coming back as Doctor Doom. RDJ is the least of the worries right now.
@sgttau977
@sgttau977 11 сағат бұрын
Take beloved actor and character and then make him evil. This is going to either be really good or backfire badly.
@Sk8Vader
@Sk8Vader Ай бұрын
Cillian was the first one to pop in my head. I just think he's too small. Von Doom must be tall and loom over his victims. Adrian had the right physique. Long arms and legs. You know, like a pro swimmer's physique. Built like Deadpool actor, just not as goofy. Reynolds would never be able to pull the evilness off.
@trisF1981
@trisF1981 27 күн бұрын
The final push for the d decision was due to his acting in oppenheimer
@thindigital
@thindigital Ай бұрын
I think that while.multiveres and alternate earths might work well in the comics, in the MCU the inclusion of such has diluted stakes and taken away the feeling that the comics were coming to life in something we recognize as our world. I'm especially disappointed to hear about the direction they are taking with F4 but it doesn't matter, it will make a billion dollars good or bad...
@jakesnake6842
@jakesnake6842 2 ай бұрын
This makes no sense! RDJ will always be iron man. I guess we can’t really say until it comes out tho.
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
I mean it's literally the same thing with Chris Evans as the human torch. We will have to wait and see.
@nerdock4747
@nerdock4747 Ай бұрын
@@CantinaTalkSW Except that he was Johnny a few years before the MCU even existed. Now that it's the same universe, it's a post-ultimate (if you will) universe decision, not a decision before the merge, so no it's literally not the same due to ownership and vision for the future.
@anthonysmurthwaite6258
@anthonysmurthwaite6258 Ай бұрын
If they have Doom be a Tony variant or be connected in any way to Ironman i genuinely won't watch it, i have been hoping for Doom for years more than any other character in Marvel, but it being in any way connected to Ironman, will immediately kill all hype for me, even if he just has Robert Downey Jr face I'll wait till after the movie comes out and intentionally spoil myself to see if they do or don't reference him in any way, if we get even a little meta joke from Deadpool i won't watch it, if there's an emotional moment where Spider-Man sees tge face of his Mentor i won't watch it To be honest even if RDJ wasn't Ironman I'd be disappointed with this casting because there are much better choices for a Doom, Jason Issacs would be my personal choice for Doom (if not Doom then he's also perfect for Magneto), but really knowing that it's almost guaranteed we see some acknowledgement of Tony looking like Doom, there are hundreds of actors or actresses I'd prefer for Doom over RDJ
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW Ай бұрын
If you watched the video, I stated that it’s confirmed that doom is victor not tony and he will have a Latvian origin story. I have a video that I made about my pick for the mcu’s xmen and said Jason Issacs for Magneto as well
@anthonysmurthwaite6258
@anthonysmurthwaite6258 Ай бұрын
@@CantinaTalkSW yes but if they have him even look like RDJ then they will most likely have him interact with characters who know Tony and have some acknowledgement of them looking the same, which is for me a deal breaker, even if it's a completely perfect Doom for almost all of the movie but at 1 point Deadpool makes a meta joke about it,then I have no interest in seeing that or really any other mcu projects, and I actually have liked phases 4 and 5 yet that 1 possibility of there being a reference, joke or connection of some kind about them being similar looking has already made me less exited about the future of the MCU as a Whole, the only possible reference I'd okay with is if Spider-Man sees Doom who looks like Tony and as they're about to have a moment, Doom immediately and effortlessly kills Spider-Man and it's gruesome, and we never see an MCU Spider-Man again, which I don't want because I like Spider-Man but only that would overcome the damage to Doctor Doom as a character that would occur if there is any reference to Tony and Doom looking similar
@WilliamCruz-n8i
@WilliamCruz-n8i Ай бұрын
I don't understand why some people are not excited about Robert Downey Jr playing Doctor doom because you know what typing mistake I take that back everyone is entitled to their own opinion as for me I'm extremely excited ,happy surprised and I know that for a fact he is going to do what he does best and that is excite the crowd and pull it off because he has that electrify the audience persona and I love him as a hero or villain he's a actor that has been through a lot and I am a huge fan of him because he's been through thick and thin love him all day you go man I cheering for you all the way
@devoxslade
@devoxslade Ай бұрын
Cillian would've been legendary
@jonathaningram8157
@jonathaningram8157 Ай бұрын
Like many i lost all interest in the mcu. But I will still probably watch those. I mean if they start making good movies again, I’m ready to forgive.
@Lineofdefeat
@Lineofdefeat Ай бұрын
This is so dumb. There’s a million other actors, why pick the guy that’s already in the universe? How about anyone else. Hell I’d even pick Dolph lundgren, Brad Pitt, Joaquin Phoenix, Gary old man, Bradley cooper, Sean penn, Brendan Fraser, literally anyone else besides iron man
@NoseCandyKermit
@NoseCandyKermit 28 күн бұрын
My cat wants me to watch this video.. why else would he click it and run off.
@stevesmith4630
@stevesmith4630 28 күн бұрын
Cillian Murphy wouldve been amazing
@MichaelJohn-dw6dl
@MichaelJohn-dw6dl 17 күн бұрын
Jullian mcmahon is the only dr doom he just needs to be upgraded
@LRTrack
@LRTrack Ай бұрын
Please, Please, PLEASE!!! GET JOHN KRASINSKI as REED RICHARDS!!!
@RahhmiPoofs
@RahhmiPoofs 17 күн бұрын
In avengers . .endgame? RDJ even flat out says Doom.
@guntherpiedmont4529
@guntherpiedmont4529 27 күн бұрын
It's a terrible idea in my opinion.
@123bradleym
@123bradleym Ай бұрын
It really should be cillian Murphy
@SaveDareDevil-Mx
@SaveDareDevil-Mx 2 ай бұрын
Aaron’s, MBJordan’s, & i’m sorry buy Ray Stevenson’s double role as well, all don’t count There has been no multiverse connections to their film universes as of now
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
If an actor is playing another marvel role and they have already played one previously it still counts and matters.
@coralsss
@coralsss Ай бұрын
Mads Mikkelsen was a better pick imo
@IceWolF963
@IceWolF963 Ай бұрын
i like iron man , i like the sherlock holmes films ( damn i need the 3rd one) RDj just works for nerdy/science type characters no clue wHY
@DarrylSmith-o2c
@DarrylSmith-o2c Ай бұрын
I thought the eternals is what killed Marvel this changed my mind
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW Ай бұрын
The Eternals isnt bad? It wasnt even a box office bomb, its impossible to say that the eternals killed marvel.
@DarrylSmith-o2c
@DarrylSmith-o2c Ай бұрын
@@CantinaTalkSW I personally thought it was as bad as The Last of Us. But I liked morbius so what the hell do I know LOL
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW Ай бұрын
@@DarrylSmith-o2c the last of us was amazing 😂 what?? Im so sorry dude that you didn’t like it.
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW Ай бұрын
@@DarrylSmith-o2c Morb was a good movie, just not a good mcu or spider-man villain movie. But as a movie on its own it’s good imo.
@DarrylSmith-o2c
@DarrylSmith-o2c Ай бұрын
@@CantinaTalkSW bro I didn't like the game or the show and I've been getting crap for it for years lol if nothing else I'm just happy to see nerd being a positive word these days
@TheBadboubou
@TheBadboubou 27 күн бұрын
if they link it somehow to Tony Stark, it's gonna be great. If they dont, i dont know it's gonna feel weird
@dougiefresh2789
@dougiefresh2789 2 ай бұрын
if they dont have better writers it wont matter. no woke shit
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
its the same writers as CA: The Winter Solider, CA: Civil War, Avengers Infinity War & Endgame.
@zerubbabelsbridge
@zerubbabelsbridge 27 күн бұрын
They should've got Mads Mikelson
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 27 күн бұрын
Agreed. I like Mads in the role
@zerubbabelsbridge
@zerubbabelsbridge 26 күн бұрын
@@CantinaTalkSW after Hannibal, he's a real Sith...lol different franchise but you get my point
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 26 күн бұрын
@@zerubbabelsbridge lol, and he already played Kaecilius in Doctor Strange. He's great in everything he's in
@NogrimStoneson
@NogrimStoneson Ай бұрын
im not sure how i feel about this, i mean we wont see his face, and im assuming theyll be using voice changers/fx so maybe it wont be weird.
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW Ай бұрын
That’s probably how it will be done tbh it makes the most sense. Marvel definitely thought of the issue of having one actors face for 2 characters. They got this in the bag trust!
@blaquenoise
@blaquenoise 22 күн бұрын
I just want to know how is he going to bulk up to play Doom
@adonutplaysgames
@adonutplaysgames Ай бұрын
Feels like there's a lot of hate for Julian McMahon's Victor von Doom. I feel he played it excellently and I not read anything negative about it either. Very weird vibes. I groaned when I saw RDJ is playing Doom. To me, he'll always be Iron Man. Seeing him as Doom is just shit.
@laruecampbell1712
@laruecampbell1712 2 ай бұрын
There a comic where they switch bodies
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 2 ай бұрын
Yes, I mentioned this in the video. This isn’t happening in the MCU
@willowtheplug
@willowtheplug Ай бұрын
after the castingfor scarlet witch, im not suprised theyre yet again throwing out romani representation
@kuromil5127
@kuromil5127 28 күн бұрын
It’s kind of disappointing honestly. Could’ve gave another actor an opportunity to enter the franchise. RDJ is going to kill it regardless thi
@WaveBlockSosa
@WaveBlockSosa Ай бұрын
They are going off the comic book where Victor and Tony switch bodies
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW Ай бұрын
No they aren’t lol I. Even confirmed that in this video
@Sohail410_
@Sohail410_ Ай бұрын
It doesn’t work. It stinks of desperation on Marvels part - Russos were probably refusing to help a sinking Marvel ship and probably kept using RDJ as their excuse to not do it. “Nah sorry Feige, RDJ done so we’re done, what? He’s down? ….fuck”
@shdowhdgehg404
@shdowhdgehg404 Ай бұрын
Honestly I can’t see who would fit it better as in I can’t name an actor who would fit the role, don’t really think RDJ is a good fit I’m not saying I hate it I just feel like casting rdj is a cash grab cos nearly everyone saying that since RDJ has left the franchise the MCU been in a slump and I think Kevin and the others picked up on that brought him back for “appeasement” for the fans. and Ik ik that’s what everyone is saying which makes my argument obsolete atp, yeah maybe they did look thru a 100 of different actors for the role for they resettled on rdj. but personally, I feel like rdj has already made his mark as iron man, why squander that by making him VVD? Is it an interesting idea? Ofc it is, but I worry how it will translate on the big screen when most of the latest MCU films have been flops (excluding GOTG pt.3)
@TotalWeapon26
@TotalWeapon26 Ай бұрын
If people go into this and put their preconceived notions on the shelf & look at this objectively, it’d be received a lot better, but typically Marvel fans won’t do that 😂
@IZZY_EDIBLE
@IZZY_EDIBLE 29 күн бұрын
RDJ all the way!
@jonk.6161
@jonk.6161 27 күн бұрын
Should have Fassbender
@CantinaTalkSW
@CantinaTalkSW 27 күн бұрын
Everyone would still see magneto
@Skyline2348
@Skyline2348 26 күн бұрын
Marvel Studios ahould have hired Joel Kinnaman.
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